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jackovesk
17th May 2012, 12:18
Wednesday, May 16, 2012

I am getting all excited about celebrating the fact that we are ruled by an inbred Germanic hereditary ruling elite. It’s the Queen’s diamond jubilee!

How will you celebrate?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=wNBKdwo6p_A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=wNBKdwo6p_A

PS - What I never could and never will understand is how 'some' of our UK members still defend some of these Parasities...:noidea:

Must be the same 'Low Class' type British Snob tourists I witnessed treating the Hotel waiting staff & management with contempt whilst I was travelling around India..! It was like they thought they for some reason were better than them, either that or they thought the English still occupied the Country and they were nothing but slaves..!

Meanwhile back at home their Country is being raped & pillaged to the point of no return by the very people they still bow too...:yes4:

Doesn't really make any sense does it...?

Must be a British thing..? :noidea:

Anyways 'TallyHo'...:wave:

sdv
17th May 2012, 12:43
What I also find very odd is how the remaining royalty have managed to stay on their thrones, so to speak, for so long, generation after generation. If you look back in history, it was quite an undertaking for a king or queen to hold onto his/her crown, and head, never mind passing it on to his or her children!

Borden
17th May 2012, 13:03
I know we're not best buddies, Jack, but as a Brit I'm compelled to comment. I agree with you. I've seen the sort of British people abroad you described, and that sort of behaviour disgusts me. It's also so ironic and senseless. We're not all like that at all. Take the young man in the clip for example. I'm guessing there are probably 'types' of Australian you wouldn't necessarily want to be associated with. Some ignorant Brits do have the ridiculous idea that they're somehow entitled to behave in a superior way when in someone else's country, but not all. I don't think you'd ever catch Bill Ryan doing that for example. There are lots of things I love about Britain, and about being British - but none of them have anything to do with elitism, snobbishness or royal families. Diamond jubilee? Couldn't care less.

pugwash84
17th May 2012, 13:04
My little boy is doing something at school, they have been asked to wear red, white and blue. I have bought him a waistcoat with union jacks on it and bow tie with union jacks on and he will wear a white shirt with it and a pair of blue smart trousers and some smart shoes.
My older girl who is at school will probably do something there but she is not fussed about it and my baby girl doesn't know who the Queen is lol.
My other little boy will not be back from his holiday until the end of the day, so it will be a bit late by then. He is visiting Sandringham house though so maybe he will see the Queen whilst he is there lol (probably not).

I think for most it's and excuse for a party lol Yummy cakes and wobbly jelly with ice cream and lush cucumber sandwiches :)

GK76
17th May 2012, 13:10
Wednesday, May 16, 2012

I am getting all excited about celebrating the fact that we are ruled by an inbred Germanic hereditary ruling elite. It’s the Queen’s diamond jubilee!

How will you celebrate?

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PS - What I never could and never will understand is how 'some' of our UK members still defend some of these Parasities...:noidea:

Must be the same 'Low Class' type British Snob tourists I witnessed treating the Hotel waiting staff & management with contempt whilst I was travelling around India..! It was like they thought they for some reason were better than them, either that or they thought the English still occupied the Country and they were nothing but slaves..!

Meanwhile back at home their Country is being raped & pillaged to the point of no return by the very people they still bow too...:yes4:

Doesn't really make any sense does it...?

Must be a British thing..? :noidea:

Anyways 'TallyHo'...:wave:

Forgive him, he only sees a small part of the picture. At least he knows the enemy of freedom, even though he still carries their symbols of control system within his rant. Someone by now has probably told him the feudal symbols he's missed, what the flag represents, and that patriotism is a worthless concept used to control the masses in false wars. Oh yup and the faux pas about the magna carta... it does bugger all to help the people, it merely gives the barons more control over the feudal system.

In your 'PS' you state: "Must be the same 'Low Class' type British Snob tourists"... Referring to them as "low class" is itself, snobbery. The rest of the 'PS' seems like an anti-British 'tar with the same brush' routine. I'm sure you didn't mean it to come across in such a fashion.

Cidersomerset
17th May 2012, 13:28
" God save the Queen shes no humanbeing " !!!!!

Celebrating the Queens 1977 silver jubilee.....

dtUH2YSFlVU


"God Save the Queen" is a song by the English punk rock band Sex Pistols. It was released as the band's second single and was featured on their only album, Never Mind the Bollocks, Here's the Sex Pistols. The song was released during Queen Elizabeth II's Silver Jubilee in 1977. The record's lyrics, as well as the cover, were controversial at the time, and both the BBC and the Independent Broadcasting Authority refused to play the song.

The song reached number one on the NME charts in the United Kingdom, but only made it to #2 on the official UK Singles Chart as used by the BBC. This led to accusations by some that the charts had been "fixed" to prevent the song from reaching number one.[1] In March 2001, the BBC wrote that the single "reached number one in the UK in 1977 despite being banned by the BBC".[2]

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Things never seem to change, when this came out the Royalty were seen by most working
class Brits as irrelevent...( which they still are !!)....

The Establishment under Thatcher switched into gear and has codemned another generation
to bend the knee.....What a load of " Rollicks " !!

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The Indian Class system is just as bad as the British, American, Saudi & many others .........

sorxc1ssEoE

Bryn ap Gwilym
17th May 2012, 13:45
Hi,

If there is one trigger that can set me off this is it.

You will find there is support for Lizzie & Co wherever its shadow has touched.
Australia, New Zealand, Canada & especially the USA to name the big ones go all giddy over this alleged royal family. A huge chunk of memorabilia will be promoted & found outside of Briton & so will the Royalist / Unionist snobbery.

This is where the confusion & ignorance sets in.
The snobbery which you refer too is a Unionist trait & not a trait of the Britons. The Unionist establishment has hijacked the British label from the Britons aka Cymry (aka welsh) who are the Indigenous peoples. Totally different people, one has an ancient history, culture, language etc while the other is a modern one which is forced onto the world with an iron fist.

As a Cymro (Welshman). I bow down to no false Monarchy or to its bloodstained butches apron aka The Union Flag.
How any truth seeker could fly such a rag is beyond words.

There is a huge republican following in Briton that does not get a mention by the msm & they always make alternative venues on certain dates

Lost Soul
17th May 2012, 14:02
Liz the lizard lady gets feted. Who cares?

Lisab
17th May 2012, 14:06
The queens diamond jubilee is also during the Venus transit window. No accident there. It's also a partial lunar eclipse. They need us to celebrate to harness more of that energy.

jackovesk
17th May 2012, 14:36
I know we're not best buddies, Jack, but as a Brit I'm compelled to comment. I agree with you. I've seen the sort of British people abroad you described, and that sort of behaviour disgusts me. It's also so ironic and senseless. We're not all like that at all. Take the young man in the clip for example. I'm guessing there are probably 'types' of Australian you wouldn't necessarily want to be associated with. Some ignorant Brits do have the ridiculous idea that they're somehow entitled to behave in a superior way when in someone else's country, but not all. I don't think you'd ever catch Bill Ryan doing that for example. There are lots of things I love about Britain, and about being British - but none of them have anything to do with elitism, snobbishness or royal families. Diamond jubilee? Couldn't care less.

G'Day Borden,

My rant was mainly to open discussion on the topic of Royalty/Elite and their Parasitical ways...

I witnessed what I witnessed and was only telling the 'Truth', another thing I witnessed was in my own backyard after one of the Australian vs England Ashes Test matches where the 'Balmy Army' were singing this tune to their Australian hosts...


"Get ya Sh#t Stars off Our Flag - OOAh OOAh"..!

I took offence to that only because I never wanted the Union Jack on our Southern Cross Flag in the 1st place..!

http://www.flags-and-anthems.com/images/flags/flag-australia-flagge-rechteckig-50x95.gif I personally would like to see the Union Jack replaced with the Aboriginal Flag http://www.careerclothing.com.au/Images/Others/aboriginal-flag.jpg

This is what I reckon our Australian Flag should look like...

16356 Now that's better...:thumb:

I detest the Monarchy and want Australia to sever all Germanic Monarchial ties with the British...

To this day we still pay taxes to the Lizards...:yes4:

Must be a Convict thing...:)


I'm guessing there are probably 'types' of Australian you wouldn't necessarily want to be associated with

You guessed right...:yes4:

I know all Country's have their individual 'Class Structures' and Australia is no different...:faint:

Rgs,

Jack

jackovesk
17th May 2012, 14:43
Hi,

If there is one trigger that can set me off this is it.

You will find there is support for Lizzie & Co wherever its shadow has touched.
Australia, New Zealand, Canada & especially the USA to name the big ones go all giddy over this alleged royal family. A huge chunk of memorabilia will be promoted & found outside of Briton & so will the Royalist / Unionist snobbery.

You will find this is mainly the doing of the MSM, moreso in America (Who obviously never cared for the Monarchy) for obvious reasons that date right back to the days leading up to 1776...:yes4:

Dorjezigzag
17th May 2012, 23:38
One is not amused!
http://swiftjonathan.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/queen_angry1.jpg?w=275

Ellisa
18th May 2012, 00:30
I have never been a monarchist, (I was born in Wales like Bryn), and I voted for a republic when given the chance, but- I do not find that the idea of electing a Head of State directly has much merit either! The present carry-on in the US , for eg. does not impress from the outside looking in. There are other ways to choose the person that would avoid political strife and I think that if they could be explored more closely. Seeing the mess that a minority government has imposed on Australian politics I feel it is important to have a system that the people can be happy with.

At least the Windsors are fairly neutral nowadays and hardly ever bother us. They are also cheaper than having to provide for a Head of State for ourselves. The GG is very much more affordable than a potentate would be, and we are stuck with what we have until we get our act together!

Actually the Jubilee is VERY low key here in Australia. Maybe some official stuff is planned but I have not heard of it and so far NO HOLIDAY!! Schools are not celebrating and so far no celebrations planned.

Seikou-Kishi
18th May 2012, 01:48
My little boy is doing something at school, they have been asked to wear red, white and blue. I have bought him a waistcoat with union jacks on it and bow tie with union jacks on and he will wear a white shirt with it and a pair of blue smart trousers and some smart shoes.
My older girl who is at school will probably do something there but she is not fussed about it and my baby girl doesn't know who the Queen is lol.
My other little boy will not be back from his holiday until the end of the day, so it will be a bit late by then. He is visiting Sandringham house though so maybe he will see the Queen whilst he is there lol (probably not).

I think for most it's and excuse for a party lol Yummy cakes and wobbly jelly with ice cream and lush cucumber sandwiches :)

My little godson thinks she's the captain of the England football team lol


At least the Windsors are fairly neutral nowadays and hardly ever bother us. They are also cheaper than having to provide for a Head of State for ourselves. The GG is very much more affordable than a potentate would be, and we are stuck with what we have until we get our act together!

Surely any money it cost to have a fully-fledged head of state that was wholly Australian would be made up for by no longer having to fund a governor general?

I agree with you though, I don't think it really matters what the form of government is as long as the government serves the people with true allegience and scrupulous honesty. The trouble we have isn't whether they're elected or not (because de facto power isn't really in their hands anyway) but how they behave, and our elected officials seem to be chomping at the bit to outdo each other in terms of petty and vile behaviour.

Ellisa
18th May 2012, 03:30
The GG is actually quite cheap compared to the absent Queen, who costs us very little (unless she visits, and even then a lot of the cost is borne by the Brits). The GG is on a salary, admittedly a high one, and has one large house provided. It gets a bit hazy because the states have governors too, but I suspect they'd be rebadged and stay with a republic!

We all know that our present GG provides her own clothes, hairdressing and so on from an allowance that they all traditionally get. As she is an extremely elegant woman some were wondering where she got the money from! That was when we heard about the allowance.

Maia Gabrial
18th May 2012, 15:19
In answer to the title of this thread, "God save the Queen!?" - WHY would anyone want to? What's she done that so great for the people of England? She even has a solid gold toilet seat for her royal a**! No monarch is better than anyone else.... We all have blue blood. We're all sovereign in our own right....

Part of awakening England would be to get them to realize that they don't need to keep the monarchy around. Talk about useless eaters.....The money could be better spent on many other things....
Now if we could get rid of OUR useless eater in the White House, who supposedly is related to the Queen, we'd do better, too....

aranuk
18th May 2012, 15:57
The queen has not a single drop of English blood in fact. She is half Scottish, her mother is a Bose Lyon the family that Leo Zagami stems from. On her father's side is German. She is more like the Queen of Germany and Scotland.

hehe

Stan

jackovesk
18th May 2012, 16:20
Post removed by me...

9eagle9
18th May 2012, 16:30
You Brits eat weird food. WTF is wobbly jelly? What has the queen done to you all???!!! You folks make pudding out of blood and eat things with grotesque names like treacle which puts an American in mind of sewage plants, and weird things oozing from dark castle walls.

All cultural differences aside (Yes yes we in the US drink beer that is the equivalent of frosty cold watered down rabbit piss)

The union jack is strangely popular over here, especially in the south being as the Confederate flag is derived from it. So much for being the ' the rogue nation'.

After World Wars One and Two most of the monarchies around the world collapsed. Me thinks those wars really had nothing to do much with the Kaiser, and Germany and the horrid things they'd do if they had world dominion, but more to do with infighting among the ptb's monarchies. The rest of the nations participated while under the pretense these wars were meant for something else. They are after all , all related or were before they fell from their thrones or two consecutive wars shifted them from there.

And how does Monaco which is like the size of a third world Caribbean nation remain a wealthy miniature super power?

Why don't about three super power nations gain together and invade the Vatican? Who'd stop them?

England more than likely does own the world and it didn't lose so much its Empire, the fact it owns everything just became hidden from the public eye.

Because I'm near the border of Canada I often receive loose coin currency as change, and it still has the Regents face on some of the coins. The newly minted ones even. Why is that exactly if Canada is supposed to no longer supposed to be influenced by British Rule.

Admittedly the Royal Family has always fascinated me. Not out of fuzzy wuzzy sense of royal fascination but for the reasons brought up here. Why are they still here? I admit that I am utterly fascinated by the concept of an t in the public eye family that is not only so grossly out of touch with reality but flaunts that state as some sort of virute....but no one ever mentions it. A royal white elephant perched in the living room of society.

They are in fact THE Germans they claimed to have hated. This whole thing has been a cluster **** of ptb families squabbling and its still going on as exhibited by the fall of Greece from the Eurozone if one is familiar how patriarchy and politics involve Greece's past (Prince Philip used to be the Prince of Greece) and how this whole Euro business was not economically motivated but politically motivated. Did the fall of Greece actually begin or continue with the marriage of Prince Philip to Betty?

But I do have something that bothers me. The Queen is truly an out of touch entity, really who can be the wealthiest woman in the world and watch her subjects suffer the way she does. I am very well aware of the austerity of England over the last hundred years (not just recently) or so as my family is from Wales, in part, and so you just know these things from first hand accounts. The Queen Mum under that sweet old charming gramma facade was deeply out of touch with reality if one looks past that facade of concern and her 'commoner's' touch. We are going to feed off the whole world and the whole world will admire and be fascinated by us as well! While everyone was eating spam during WW2 the royals obviously did not indulge in rationing, how could you when you own many weatlhy farming estates? Yet they claimed they did. When it was obvious they didn't.


BUT.....I never did get the sense from either George VI (ERs father) or his Father George V that there unconcerned. They just do not seem to have the same energy so leads me to wonder who or what family is wearing the pants on the throne of Great Britian. (And what the hell is it? Great Britian or England? Is there two separate nations in one country?) I might be wrong and that is probably a bit before all of our time, George VI died about 15 years before I ever came along so perhaps there is not way to really know. I really never go the sense from him that he was entrenched isn this ego reptilian energy. Also he died young, ...(get him out of the way?)

What do you think, I mean living there and all and having the sort of alternative information available to us know. My own distorted perception or perhaps a result in coming from different branches of monarch families?

I still find the public attitudes about the British and the Monarchs. My father told me that a man was supposed to remove his hat if the King was making a speech on the radio and could be ticketed for not removing the hat. Or that they didn't want the Queen's wedding televised in case men wearing hats in pubs happened to be watching the tv.

As weird as wobbly jelly ;)



My little boy is doing something at school, they have been asked to wear red, white and blue. I have bought him a waistcoat with union jacks on it and bow tie with union jacks on and he will wear a white shirt with it and a pair of blue smart trousers and some smart shoes.
My older girl who is at school will probably do something there but she is not fussed about it and my baby girl doesn't know who the Queen is lol.
My other little boy will not be back from his holiday until the end of the day, so it will be a bit late by then. He is visiting Sandringham house though so maybe he will see the Queen whilst he is there lol (probably not).

I think for most it's and excuse for a party lol Yummy cakes and wobbly jelly with ice cream and lush cucumber sandwiches :)

Lettherebelight
18th May 2012, 16:47
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-nLekaPAJRqk/TaSsrBXphcI/AAAAAAAAAMQ/6SMUx-HNvj4/s1600/RA_History1.jpgThe Koh-i-noor diamond (100+carats) was taken (one could say stolen) by the Queen of England (Victoria) from the Jaganatha Temple in Orissa.
It is now placed in the British crown jewels. In the front of the coronation crown.

That is no ordinary hat!

Maia Gabrial
18th May 2012, 17:23
The queens diamond jubilee is also during the Venus transit window. No accident there. It's also a partial lunar eclipse. They need us to celebrate to harness more of that energy.

No celebration coming from ME!

9eagle9
18th May 2012, 17:23
Don't want to wear a dumb hat?

pugwash84
18th May 2012, 17:33
http://www.ifr.ac.uk/jellyvision/jellyfacts.html


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9qBJ6YhuAY

9eagle9
18th May 2012, 17:55
(Slaps at face in disbelief)

That's Jello. Gelatin. And of course you eat it with whipped cream otherwise its reduced to the sort of crap they feed you in retirement homes.

Jelly is Jam or preserves with the solids removed!!! what is wrong with you people, no wonder you have a lizard ruling your country!! This is HER fault, she has deceived you into thinking that Jello is jelly, cookies are biscuits, and biscuits are scones, and pudding means anything for dessert, instead of custard, and that pissed means drunk instead of angry and I bet she's responsible for sticking lemonade into the beer!

Y'all need to get out that country and eat your biscuits with pork sausage gravy the way God intended if he weren't so busy saving the Queen. SHE"S not the one who needs to be saved...YOU DO! You eat pudding made out of blood for Christ's sakes, whose idea do you think that was!!

But I am curious enough to go make a cucumber sandwich.

jackovesk
18th May 2012, 17:55
http://www.ifr.ac.uk/jellyvision/jellyfacts.html


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9qBJ6YhuAY

Pugwash unfortunately I have (NEVER EVER) been able to take Centurial (MALOVENT CRIMINAL BEHAVIOR) as lightly as you do...:nono:

Your offspring must be so so proud...:faint:

pugwash84
18th May 2012, 18:20
There is nothing wrong with a community coming together and celebrating, a lot of people these days are anti-social and anything which gets people to come together, work together and have a day filled with laughter, love, good company and break bread with one another sounds good to me. It's a rare occasion a country comes together and celebrates together, most of the time it's full of division and the "Me" factor of consume now and think later selfishness. I would do this every day, shame it's just once every so often people come together like this. Oh and most people in England don't care for the Queen, they just like to celebrate and spend time with neighbours.

Lettherebelight
18th May 2012, 18:26
I think it is a shame that we only are really encouraged to get together and celebrate when it is in celebration of the Queen. (Here in England) There is an absolutely huge media push going on here in old' Blighty.

Don't be fooled. The Monarchy has a lot more control and influence than we are allowed to know. The currency you use bears her image. That is not just some sentimental gesture for the tourists.

9eagle9
18th May 2012, 18:44
The national holidays (holy days) are planned around their satanic energies, they plan hidden rites and put things into motion during these times. And of course the 'gods' always like to be venerated. So the Jubileee as someone noted elsewhere does fall during a frame time ideally used for rite-work June 1 - June 11th, that calendar which has been perverted from an older less unpleasant tradition runs in 11 day increments.

It setting perhaps the staging or pre-rite for whatever assholery they plan for the solstice which falls under the next 11 day increment and they of course need your particpation. A few dozen elitist arseholes cannot raise the sort of energy that vast millions can, they don't much care what sort of energy it is, they just need lots of it. They need YOUR particpation in keeping you a slave. And this is another way we unwittingly give up their power to them.

all National holidays the ones we are accustomed to celebrating, have people stirred by the media to invest in for 'pleasant , fellow ship reasons, even for reasons of love. Christmas frenzy. This alleged season of love is now preceded by an event called Black Friday here. Nice eh?

Christmas is no different than than the Jubilee which just means the have some righteously big rite planned that is plotted on a larger cycle than the usual annual holidays like Christmas and Easter.

I don't celebrate national holidays, at least not with the fervor that others do. I periodically take a nod to it but on my own terms, not theirs.

Antagenet
19th May 2012, 03:08
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taeNMhlf5PU

taeNMhlf5PU

I often hum this song as I am jumping on my rebounder. Seems appropriate for this thread.

Ellisa
19th May 2012, 03:58
So Jack-- do you think a Head-of State would be cheaper than the present system?

I am, actually, not a monarchist, and it is interesting to be attacked as though I am. And I have become an Australian by choice, and am not an accidental Aussie like you.

We actually do agree that the British monarchy should be replaced in Australia with an elected Head of State, but the methods of choosing are what we may have disagreements on. In the Republican Referendum Mr Howard dudded us all by splitting the vote for a republic if you remember. We ended up voting not for a republic, but for the method of electing the Head of State. The slimy little weazel had perverted the will of the majority of the people yet again, and as usual we fell for it. Though actually my state, Victoria, did have a majority in favour. Had we all voted that way we would not be having this conversation now.

How do you read the fact that the Jubilee is a non-event in this country? Previously such things have been very high profile. Maybe the most of us here feel it has little to do with us, though I have to admit it does not seem that there is a huge call for our country to become a Republic. As usual apathy reigns.

mosquito
19th May 2012, 04:19
As an exiled Brit, I care not a flying f*ck for this event or for the "royal" family. Here's the version of the national anthem I used to sing whenever I (rarely) found myself in a position of having to stand and sing ......

God save our inbred kraut,
long live our inbred kraut,
God save the kraut.
(dah di dah dah)
Send her to Geeeeeermany,
where she belo-o-ongs
long to eat saussssages,
God save the kraut.

(Apologies to my German brethren !!!!!)

But a look at the farcical shenanigans in America tells us that a republic would be no better (President Blair ? NO THANK YOU). We need career politicans as much as we need syphilis. I prefer the idea of a head of state who is there to serve. What the Poles used to do was import their king from elsewhere, a person who was not predjudiced toward or against any of the feudal barons who really ruled the land, and who could therefore, hopefully, provide a unifying force. (Slightly tongue in cheek here folks). Or of course, we could have a British person who was well loved and/or respected

Here are my suggestions for the next monarch (Americans - will you please please please, get it into your heads that there is no such thing as "the Queen of England", the last such person was Elizabeth I):

Pele, Kylie Minogue, Dennis Lilee (my fave), Bobby Charlton, Francois Pienaar, Garreth Edwards, Billy Conolly

Sorry, I'm not particularly up to date on celebrity cults, hence the short list !!! Any other suggestions ?

Ellisa
19th May 2012, 05:27
Yeah Kylie! But too many soccer people I think.

Lille would be OK--- but he hasn't got the moustache now and he is bald (not that there's anything wrong with that) But Billy would be great--- no one would understand a word he said which would probably be good.

However there's only one possibility for the Oz Head of State--- Gary Ablett (jun)--- (though he is bald too- there's a theme here!) He and Ms Minogue could share-for gender balance--- Kylie and Gary!!!

At least with an elected person you don't have them for life!

SKIBADABOMSKI
19th May 2012, 05:57
Freddy Mercury is the only Queen I respect.

I have always bitched the queen, then one day I was strolling near Buckingham Palace and some police on bikes started stopping traffic and I was forced to wait as this large glassed
windowed car slowly passed me.
And there was Phillip and the queen in plain view not more than 3 meters away and I stuck my thumbs up and the queen waved and Phillip also stuck his thumbs up and winked.
I just laughed and went to the pub and with my last pound I stuck in a fruit machine and I won 60 pounds. Reptilian power !!

jackovesk
19th May 2012, 06:48
So Jack-- do you think a Head-of State would be cheaper than the present system?

I am, actually, not a monarchist, and it is interesting to be attacked as though I am. And I have become an Australian by choice, and am not an accidental Aussie like you.

We actually do agree that the British monarchy should be replaced in Australia with an elected Head of State, but the methods of choosing are what we may have disagreements on. In the Republican Referendum Mr Howard dudded us all by splitting the vote for a republic if you remember. We ended up voting not for a republic, but for the method of electing the Head of State. The slimy little weazel had perverted the will of the majority of the people yet again, and as usual we fell for it. Though actually my state, Victoria, did have a majority in favour. Had we all voted that way we would not be having this conversation now.

How do you read the fact that the Jubilee is a non-event in this country? Previously such things have been very high profile. Maybe the most of us here feel it has little to do with us, though I have to admit it does not seem that there is a huge call for our country to become a Republic. As usual apathy reigns.


And I have become an Australian by choice, and am not an accidental Aussie like you.

That's exactly the type of "Hoi polloi' attitude I expected coming from you Ellisa...:no:

Must be a 'Welsh' thing, just like JuLIAR...:yes4:


How do you read the fact that the Jubilee is a non-event in this country?

Because no-one I know could give a 'Toss' about it, except for the MSM who never let anyone forget..!

.....................................

In all seriousness, I have removed my previous post after re-reading it. Sometimes I grow weary of uneducated commentary.

You'll be happy to know, that a fellow Member (Whom I Respect) came to your defence via a PM and this was my reply....




But like you "I LOVE MY OWN COUNTRY" and have little time for those who don't..!

Quick Australian History Lesson to what I was elluding to towards ??????..!


In 2007 our Country voted in PM Kevien Rudd whose nickname in the the Queensland parliament where I preside was (Dr Death)..!

Since starting his Polictical Career he has amassed a Family Fortune of well over $160 Million Dollars, due to his wife's so called Employment Agency that was built upon (No Bid Govt. Contracts) just ask ex-British PM Gordon Brown & Tony Blair..!

If was Kevein Rudd who appointed the Globalist Shill Ms. Quentin Bryce as Governor General (GG) who has manged to (OUTSPEND) evey single (GG) in Australian Histolry on Clothing, Entertainment & Treval Expenses (BARR NONE)..!

It was Quentin Bryce who has kept the Illegitimate (Hung Parliament) in Power since Kevin Rudd's Labor Govt. came into Power...!

Kevin Rudd way back in 2007 started his tenure as PM with $20 Billion Dollars in the the Kitty. Since then his Labor Govt. has been borrowing $100 Million Dollars per day and NOW we are in DEBT to the tune of appox. $168 Billion Dollars!

Kevin Rudd helped finance the WAR on Lybia to the tune of $46 Million $AUD

Kevin Rudd's ultimate goal was to buy his way into a high priced position in the UN..! He even bragged about his best mate Ban Ki Moon (Secretary-General of the United Nations) who he unashedly referred to his nickname on Australian TV as (Spanky - Banky)..!

Kevin Rudd failed to enforce All of the 'Globalist Austerity Measures' that were asked of him by the Globalist NWO and susequently he was knifed in the back by the Welsh (Wales) born (Fabian Socialist) JuLIAR Gillard who has not only carried on where the CRIMINAL Kevin Rudd left off, but has maneged to make things even worse in My Country..!

I could literally go on for hours about how the Globalist NWO has got their (HOOKS) stuck into Australia, but I won't bore you with the detail...:nono:

I Loath Ignorant people who think the Royal Family is Ok and or Nothing is as bad as it seems through sheer Effing Ignorance..!

The US has been taken over by the the CRIMINAL Globalist BANKSTERS and (EVERY SINGLE EFFING THING) I have learnt from what is happening to your Country, (SURE ENOUGH) within 1 to 2 Months is happening in my Country (Time after Time)..!


For the Welsh (Wales) Born Ellissa to try and sweep all this Globalist Royalist CRAP under the carpet, just really pisses me off like you would'nt believe..!!!!

I will always defend the 'TRUTH' and what is right and for that (I WILL NEVER APOLOGIZE)...:nono:

Rgs,

Jack

How do justify this statement Ellisa..?



At least the Windsors are fairly neutral nowadays and hardly ever bother us. They are also cheaper than having to provide for a Head of State for ourselves. The GG is very much more affordable than a potentate would be, and we are stuck with what we have until we get our act together!

Don't you know Australia is part of the Commonwealth and we answer to the 'Crown' even our Politiciians swear allegiance to Her Majesty 'The Queen' not to the Australian people..!

They place their hand on the Bible and Swear to uphold the Laws of the Crown, Queen & Commonwealth not the Australia and its people..!


Certain public office holders in Australia such as the Governor General and members of both houses of federal parliament are required to make one of the oaths.[2] The words of both the oath and affirmation are attached as a schedule to the Constitution.[1][3]

The Oath of Allegiance reads as follows:

I, A.B., do swear that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to Her Majesty Queen Victoria, Her heirs and successors according to law. SO HELP ME GOD!
The Affirmation of Allegiance reads as follows:

I, A.B., do solemnly and sincerely affirm and declare that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to Her Majesty Queen Victoria, Her heirs and successors according to law.

As per the schedule in the Constitution, the words "Her" and "Queen Victoria" are substituted as required with the pronoun and name of the reigning monarch.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oath_of_Allegiance_(Australia)


So to just laugh it off and say...


At least the Windsors are fairly neutral nowadays and hardly ever bother us. They are also cheaper than having to provide for a Head of State for ourselves.

Is what got me really annoyed, hence my response..!

They "Don't Bother Us"..?

Every heard of Crown Land, Property Taxes, etc..?

We don't even own our own Homes & the Land they were built on even if you've paid off your mortgage! The Crown at anytime can repossess that Land indiscriminently at their choosing!

My apologies for my intial post, upon reflection it was a little harsh. But I just get so frustrated when people who should know better make such aloof commentary...:noidea:

Lettherebelight
19th May 2012, 22:02
True...that if you look upon the deeds of property here in the UK, all infrastructure leading to and on your property are owned by Her Majesty, Elizabeth II.

ghostrider
20th May 2012, 02:59
in this day and age, a queen on the throne ??? do you need a parliment then ? or a house of lords ?? wonder if there is still knights and a round table ? where's robin hood when you need him ? the queen would make the short list.

9eagle9
20th May 2012, 11:50
Here are my suggestions for the next monarch (Americans - will you please please please, get it into your heads that there is no such thing as "the Queen of England", the last such person was Elizabeth I):


Americans pretty much have to go by what comes out of the Motherland, soo.....take a stab at explaining this. .

Lettherebelight
21st May 2012, 07:07
'England' is just a part of the United Kingdom. The United Kingdom is England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland.
Her realm also includes 15 other Commonwealth countries...she's not doing too bad!

varuna
21st May 2012, 08:18
I know we're not best buddies, Jack, but as a Brit I'm compelled to comment. I agree with you. I've seen the sort of British people abroad you described, and that sort of behaviour disgusts me. It's also so ironic and senseless. We're not all like that at all. Take the young man in the clip for example. I'm guessing there are probably 'types' of Australian you wouldn't necessarily want to be associated with. Some ignorant Brits do have the ridiculous idea that they're somehow entitled to behave in a superior way when in someone else's country, but not all. I don't think you'd ever catch Bill Ryan doing that for example. There are lots of things I love about Britain, and about being British - but none of them have anything to do with elitism, snobbishness or royal families. Diamond jubilee? Couldn't care less.

...ditto Borden, I think as a country we are becoming less and less deferential, and it it will interesting to see what happens when (and if) the Scottish get the vote to decide whether they want to be a part of the UK...my son now lives in Australia and I have recently spent a month travelling there, I loved the easy going warmth and good humour the Auzzies have. But I was also aware of a sub-culture of ethnic minorities which was sad to see, it's the same here though. Maybe we humans have a need for a hierarchical system? I think that is changing and as we evolve we will see that it is not necessary and that we are all equal and have worth.

Seikou-Kishi
21st May 2012, 08:47
Freddy Mercury is the only Queen I respect.

I have always bitched the queen, then one day I was strolling near Buckingham Palace and some police on bikes started stopping traffic and I was forced to wait as this large glassed
windowed car slowly passed me.
And there was Phillip and the queen in plain view not more than 3 meters away and I stuck my thumbs up and the queen waved and Phillip also stuck his thumbs up and winked.
I just laughed and went to the pub and with my last pound I stuck in a fruit machine and I won 60 pounds. Reptilian power !!

Lol, this is a great story and it really made me laugh. Wouldn't it be good if luck were contagious? :P

I love Freddie Mercury. The good thing about being English is at least we hate everything lol. An elected head of state would be no more or less hated than a hereditary one... it seems to be the English way to hate all in those positions. Granted they have probably earned it, but we don't even give them a few weeks to get up and running to see if they're going to be any different lol.

"Cameron's a ****, Clegg's a ****... and Miliband'd be a **** if he had the chance" is probably the closest we English get to a national anthem lol

Borden
21st May 2012, 08:50
Hi varuna,

Personally I don't think humans have any intrinsic need for a hierarchical system so much as a system that they understand and feel secure within. Throughout history and I'm sure pre-history - this need has been exploited by a small contingent who always know how to cater to the lowest common denominator. Humans take as naturally to their nobler aspects as their baser. As people finally cotton on to what's being done to them ... the system of control merely changes its appearance and adopts a new and improved shop front. You can see Empires, religions and institutions playing this chameleon game throughout history. I'm definitely with you on the evolution thing, because obviously we are all equal and have worth ... but what's so disturbing is to see false evolution. Those in control must ensure that we always have someone to look down on, to resent, to hate. If we evolve beyond that manipulation then we'll really be getting somewhere.

p.s. I agree about Aussies and their easy-going warmth and good humour. It's often pretty refreshing for us Brits, isn't it?

Seikou-Kishi
21st May 2012, 08:56
(Slaps at face in disbelief)

That's Jello. Gelatin. And of course you eat it with whipped cream otherwise its reduced to the sort of crap they feed you in retirement homes.

Jelly is Jam or preserves with the solids removed!!! what is wrong with you people, no wonder you have a lizard ruling your country!! This is HER fault, she has deceived you into thinking that Jello is jelly, cookies are biscuits, and biscuits are scones, and pudding means anything for dessert, instead of custard, and that pissed means drunk instead of angry and I bet she's responsible for sticking lemonade into the beer!

Y'all need to get out that country and eat your biscuits with pork sausage gravy the way God intended if he weren't so busy saving the Queen. SHE"S not the one who needs to be saved...YOU DO! You eat pudding made out of blood for Christ's sakes, whose idea do you think that was!!

But I am curious enough to go make a cucumber sandwich.

Wow do you really only use pudding to mean custard? It's times like this I struggle to find the underlying oneness that unites all of humanity. You're all so strange :P

9eagle9
21st May 2012, 13:51
Pudding IS custard. At least its supposed to be. Here in the US it's flavored cornstarch.

I've had this argument with my auntie, who'd always inquire if there was pudding after a meal.

No we're having cake.

That's pudding.

No.It's. Not.

IT"S CAKE dammit!!

Lisab
21st May 2012, 14:51
The queens diamond jubilee is also during the Venus transit window. No accident there. It's also a partial lunar eclipse. They need us to celebrate to harness more of that energy.

No celebration coming from ME!
Lol just saw this. Just want to make it clear, no celebration here either.

9eagle9
21st May 2012, 15:05
Humans have a need for hierarchy which to keep them safe, its just an offshoot of slave mentality.

There are natural occuring hierarchies or arrangements that shift and evolve constantly where no one entity is in power or in the lead long. Power positions revolve, one observes this in nature with social animals. No one is alone in power, no one person has all the responsibility, with so many participating safe conditions are created. Safety in numbers doesn't mean an army of sheep following the shepherd. It means what it means.

We are inclined towards this sort of hierarchy, everyone has a place, and the lead positions are revolved through.

What we see today is corruption and perversion of that naturally occurring hierarchy.

When you see someone who is a true leader they begin assign leader positions as equals according to ability, not start assigning themselves as 'the' leader and everyone else should follow or be subordinate because the leader knows as circumstances shift they will be in non-leading position for a time in order to keep the organization rolling forward.

Unfortunately 'being' a leader and having power makes one feel safe.

A sign of strength is the ability to be safe even one does not have a fixed leadership role, and no overt fixed position of power over another.



Hi varuna,

Personally I don't think humans have any intrinsic need for a hierarchical system so much as a system that they understand and feel secure within. Throughout history and I'm sure pre-history - this need has been exploited by a small contingent who always know how to cater to the lowest common denominator. Humans take as naturally to their nobler aspects as their baser. As people finally cotton on to what's being done to them ... the system of control merely changes its appearance and adopts a new and improved shop front. You can see Empires, religions and institutions playing this chameleon game throughout history. I'm definitely with you on the evolution thing, because obviously we are all equal and have worth ... but what's so disturbing is to see false evolution. Those in control must ensure that we always have someone to look down on, to resent, to hate. If we evolve beyond that manipulation then we'll really be getting somewhere.

p.s. I agree about Aussies and their easy-going warmth and good humour. It's often pretty refreshing for us Brits, isn't it?

Seikou-Kishi
21st May 2012, 17:07
Pudding IS custard. At least its supposed to be. Here in the US it's flavored cornstarch.

I've had this argument with my auntie, who'd always inquire if there was pudding after a meal.

No we're having cake.

That's pudding.

No.It's. Not.

IT"S CAKE dammit!!

I think you're making a category error (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category_error) :P Ain' nu'in gon pu' a plaster on dat :P

9eagle9
21st May 2012, 17:22
Cod off, I'm having a categorical mistake with my coffee then.

Amity
21st May 2012, 23:41
I'm sorry but English is English . So you must be wrong! hmmmmmm pudding!

Tane Mahuta
22nd May 2012, 01:17
The queens diamond jubilee is also during the Venus transit window. No accident there. It's also a partial lunar eclipse. They need us to celebrate to harness more of that energy.

No celebration coming from ME!
Lol just saw this. Just want to make it clear, no celebration here either.

I'm going fishing...

gonna take some scones, cakes & pudding with me!!!

ooh yeah!! & a cup of tea!!!

no celebration here w.s.e!!!

TM

9eagle9
22nd May 2012, 02:47
Appalling. I am shocked that for all that stiff sensible upper lip you Brits have, that you should be so naive to take scones with you fishing.

You're supposed to take BEER with you fishing!! Do know what would happen to you if you took tea and scones fishing with you here in America.

Someone would beat you up.

Those guys who sail sailboats and swill Diet Coke?

Their fate will be yours.

Seikou-Kishi
23rd May 2012, 21:11
Appalling. I am shocked that for all that stiff sensible upper lip you Brits have, that you should be so naive to take scones with you fishing.

You're supposed to take BEER with you fishing!! Do know what would happen to you if you took tea and scones fishing with you here in America.

Someone would beat you up.

Those guys who sail sailboats and swill Diet Coke?

Their fate will be yours.

What is it about the Maori name and the New Zealand flag that makes you think he's British? American geography at its dismal finest :P

Luckily Tane's fellow fishers aren't such brutes :P

9eagle9
23rd May 2012, 21:36
Isn't everyone on the other side of the pond British?

In fact we in America are British...:eek:

Is there somewhere that isn't British?

ScubaMonkey
23rd May 2012, 22:40
You eat pudding made out of blood for Christ's sakes

I hope your not knocking Black Pudding here! Fantastic stuff, it is!!! Couple slices on a full English breakfast - greatest thing in the world for a hangover!

It's not a dessert. It's savoury. It's a type of blood sausage and numerous countries around the world all make their own version of it.

I'm guessing what you're saying is "tongue in cheek" anyway. You'd surely not be lecturing the English on the correct use of... Well, English. ;-)

Seikou-Kishi
24th May 2012, 00:22
You eat pudding made out of blood for Christ's sakes

I hope your not knocking Black Pudding here! Fantastic stuff, it is!!! Couple slices on a full English breakfast - greatest thing in the world for a hangover!

It's not a dessert. It's savoury. It's a type of blood sausage and numerous countries around the world all make their own version of it.

I'm guessing what you're saying is "tongue in cheek" anyway. You'd surely not be lecturing the English on the correct use of... Well, English. ;-)

My assumption is that that is the case XD

Ellisa
24th May 2012, 00:53
I'm stuck in complete shock that pudding is the same as custard!!!!! I cooked pudding as a treat last night as i had my grandchildren here. It was not a cake or custard, it was a pudding cooked in the oven--- apple crumble. Yummy! Pudding can also be cooked on top of the stove--- as treacle sponge pudding --- also yummy, or golden syrup dumplings which are also pudding... and extra yummy. And there's nothing wrong with scones wherever you are!

9eagle9
24th May 2012, 02:15
Googling blood pudding, Dark pudding and blood sausages and if says anything about coagulation I'm vomiting all over this thread.

And far be it from me to criticize English but I go insane when someone says schedule like SHED-ule. Shedule. What shed, how did the shed get in the rotation?
SKED-U-el.

Ellisa
24th May 2012, 02:56
Black pudding is delicious when sliced and fried in bacon fat.......................................Clear the way--- 9eagle9 is running for the door!

And on the pronunciation topic--- the most annoying is 'mom' instead of 'mum'.

9eagle9
24th May 2012, 12:36
I found a recipe for it, and the first item on the list was a quart of fresh pig's blood. (I shuddered at the thought that perhaps some people short cut and use stale pig's blood).

I have to ask, where do Brits (or anyone else for that matter) just go buy a quart of pig's blood? Do you just walk into the grocer's and get it?

Seikou-Kishi
24th May 2012, 16:36
I found a recipe for it, and the first item on the list was a quart of fresh pig's blood. (I shuddered at the thought that perhaps some people short cut and use stale pig's blood).

I have to ask, where do Brits (or anyone else for that matter) just go buy a quart of pig's blood? Do you just walk into the grocer's and get it?

From our altars affter the sacrifice, where else?

9eagle9
24th May 2012, 18:01
OH!

Okay. Here in the States we call them BBQ's.




I found a recipe for it, and the first item on the list was a quart of fresh pig's blood. (I shuddered at the thought that perhaps some people short cut and use stale pig's blood).

I have to ask, where do Brits (or anyone else for that matter) just go buy a quart of pig's blood? Do you just walk into the grocer's and get it?

From our altars affter the sacrifice, where else?

Lettherebelight
24th May 2012, 18:19
OH!

Okay. Here in the States we call them BBQ's.




I found a recipe for it, and the first item on the list was a quart of fresh pig's blood. (I shuddered at the thought that perhaps some people short cut and use stale pig's blood).

I have to ask, where do Brits (or anyone else for that matter) just go buy a quart of pig's blood? Do you just walk into the grocer's and get it?

From our altars affter the sacrifice, where else?

What ho...'tis the perfect metaphor!

ScubaMonkey
24th May 2012, 21:16
Compared to what goes in an ordinary sausage or hot dog - black pudding is hardly disgusting.

Go on 9eagle9, give it a watch...
t8EI0eSd3Yk



And on the pronunciation topic--- the most annoying is 'mom' instead of 'mum'.

No... surely the most annoying is Math instead of Maths?!

9eagle9
25th May 2012, 03:30
I am going to try this black pudding. thank you for the visual btw . I cannot in no way find a quart of pigs blood here without finding a pig farmer who will no doubt given American hysteria, think I'm up to something with it, but they sell black pudding premade at the next largish town up at an import food store where I get clotted creme and guernsey butter.

I'm going to risk it. Not doing anything until there's bacon fat. I trust bacon fat. It makes everything better.

Culinary adventures.