JP morgan quickly fallling apart

[Praxis]

http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2012/05/-3-billion-and-counting-jp-morgans-loss-grows-by-50-in-5-days/257312/

For those who have not encountered this story before. The number keeps growing. A couple of days ago it was at 2.5 billion.

[humanalien]

By the time all is said and done, the amount of money lost
will be in the trillions. I'm sure it wasn't lost though, it was
stolen by the JP Morgan banks. They are gearing up for the
NWO takeover, i'm betting....

[conk]

What'samatta? They couldn't unload enough phony, rotten financial instruments off to the government and taxpayers?!

[Maia Gabrial]

I think the banksters are finally realizing that the fake money they've foisted on us is STILL fake money for them...!
Looks like the "pyramid" is crumbling from the top, too...!
All I can say is "What ya gonna do when they come for you, BAD BOYS? BAAAAD BOYS!"

[Bryn ap Gwilym]

Hi

Could the on going J.P. Morgan shenanigans be directly linked to the "Rothschilds to merge British and French banking operations to secure control" that is going through in June to protect itself?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/banksandfinance/9189053/Rothschilds-to-merge-British-and-French-banking-operations-to-secure-control.html

This maybe a wildcard. The House of Morgan took a back seat a good while back while letting others baically do the work & cop the bullet.


The grandchildren and great grandchildren of Morgan are all over the map and still very much around, they just don’t work as the head of JP Morgan in Manhattan. Often, these slots are reserved for hungry newcomers who are willing to put in the hours and take the flack for the Family who continue to pull in the money, quietly. And often, prefer to do other activities rather than fret about making lots of money in various squirrely ways. Often, joining charities and dispensing largesse is more relaxing and much better PR than doing the rough and ready business of snatching as much wealth as possible from as many people as possible.

Source (https://emsnews.wordpress.com/2009/11/23/jp-morgan-pirate-may-take-over-treasury-from-geithner/)

So is it just possible that the House of Morgan is bringing down the deck of cards?
If that is the case, then just maybe they are playing out an old family prophecy. The return of the King.

[lindabaker]

Hi

Could the on going J.P. Morgan shenanigans be directly linked to the "Rothschilds to merge British and French banking operations to secure control" that is going through in June to protect itself?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/banksandfinance/9189053/Rothschilds-to-merge-British-and-French-banking-operations-to-secure-control.html

This maybe a wildcard. The House of Morgan took a back seat a good while back while letting others baically do the work & cop the bullet.


The grandchildren and great grandchildren of Morgan are all over the map and still very much around, they just don’t work as the head of JP Morgan in Manhattan. Often, these slots are reserved for hungry newcomers who are willing to put in the hours and take the flack for the Family who continue to pull in the money, quietly. And often, prefer to do other activities rather than fret about making lots of money in various squirrely ways. Often, joining charities and dispensing largesse is more relaxing and much better PR than doing the rough and ready business of snatching as much wealth as possible from as many people as possible.

Source (https://emsnews.wordpress.com/2009/11/23/jp-morgan-pirate-may-take-over-treasury-from-geithner/)

So is it just possible that the House of Morgan is bringing down the deck of cards?
If that is the case, then just maybe they are playing out an old family prophecy. The return of the King.

Are you just kiddin' around, or is there really a Morgan family prophecy about the Return of the King? I mean, there could be, right?

[Positive Vibe Merchant]

and are we still asking where the money actually is?

[WhiteFeather]

Karmas a Bitch. I can just smell Mr. JP Morgan's burnt flesh rising up from hell. That PO Shyte!

[UnrealDreams]

It looks like their plans are going off as expected. They have to crash the banks so that they can devalue/destroy the dollar. This is just the first step. Several other big banks will report similar losses soon. They own Congress and have changed the laws. Since the year 2000, Americans holding accounts with these big banks will be very surprised to find out that when big banks lose billions of dollars, they can legally remove money from your personal accounts to cover those losses. These losses will not be felt by the banks themselves.

The banksters are just cashing out and buying gold in preparation for the fall of the dollar. The planned fall of the dollar is why gold is so high right now. Banksters don't want useless dollars, they want gold so they can come out on top after the fall of the dollar. After the other banks join in and wipe out America's savings, expect rioting in the streets, a call for a one world currency, and a move to martial law under the guise of an economic emergency. If you have any money in the big banks, remove it ASAP.

If you live in America, you should have six months supply of food for yourself and your family. Don't wait until the other banks follow suit. One day you will be able to buy rice and beans in the supermarket and the very next day the shelves will be bare. Buy rice and kidney beans, and plenty of water!!!

Peace and love to all,
Jeff

[Mozart]

It's JP Morgue now.

[Bryn ap Gwilym]

Hi

Could the on going J.P. Morgan shenanigans be directly linked to the "Rothschilds to merge British and French banking operations to secure control" that is going through in June to protect itself?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/banksandfinance/9189053/Rothschilds-to-merge-British-and-French-banking-operations-to-secure-control.html

This maybe a wildcard. The House of Morgan took a back seat a good while back while letting others baically do the work & cop the bullet.


The grandchildren and great grandchildren of Morgan are all over the map and still very much around, they just don’t work as the head of JP Morgan in Manhattan. Often, these slots are reserved for hungry newcomers who are willing to put in the hours and take the flack for the Family who continue to pull in the money, quietly. And often, prefer to do other activities rather than fret about making lots of money in various squirrely ways. Often, joining charities and dispensing largesse is more relaxing and much better PR than doing the rough and ready business of snatching as much wealth as possible from as many people as possible.

Source (https://emsnews.wordpress.com/2009/11/23/jp-morgan-pirate-may-take-over-treasury-from-geithner/)

So is it just possible that the House of Morgan is bringing down the deck of cards?
If that is the case, then just maybe they are playing out an old family prophecy. The return of the King.

Are you just kiddin' around, or is there really a Morgan family prophecy about the Return of the King? I mean, there could be, right?

Hi

The House of Morgan is an very old Royal bloodline from Ynys Prydein (Briton).

Sorry, I don't mean to sound cheeky, but I thought it was common knowledge.

[9eagle9]

I took a check to JP MorganChase drawn off their account to cash. THEIR check. They wouldn't honor it.

Amazing. They claimed it was because I didn't have an account there. The bank manager said to me, why not open an account (they apparently wanted the check for deposit but not to be paid to cash) You' are in here all the time anyway.

Uhm....no I'm not. (how weird!!)

"Well we can check to make sure the check is good."

Uhm. I'd certainly hope so since the check is from JP Morgan Chase...(lol)

Every time I venture beyond my own yard the world gets weirder and weirder. People claim I'm a bit of an agorphobic and don't get out and engage in the world and this is what I get when I do.


By the time all is said and done, the amount of money lost
will be in the trillions. I'm sure it wasn't lost though, it was
stolen by the JP Morgan banks. They are gearing up for the
NWO takeover, i'm betting....

[conk]

and are we still asking where the money actually is?
There never was any money. It's all an illusion, bytes in a computer memory.

[Fred Steeves]

If you want to set alarm bells ringing and people scurrying at ANY bank, just ask to withdraw $2,000 in 50's and 20's.

[pyrangello]

Not that I'm a big fan of the banks or the entire sytem but yes JP Morgan lost 2 billion in hedge fund bets , and they are bets, but they are still on the books for making 14 billion in profit in this year. So for now there not going anywhere.

The banks do suck though , what use to be an easy loan to get a truck now is a jump thru hoops put your grandma up for collateral make or break deal !!!

[TelosianEmbrace]

The only true currency, of which money is a pale imitation, is your morality. Every time you make moral choices, regardless of the financial repurcussions, you are bringing down the system in your own small way. I will reiterate that all of these changes will not be the cause of our enlightenment, they are indeed the result of it. The power to change the global system lies with only one person- you.

[InTheBackground]

If you want to set alarm bells ringing and people scurrying at ANY bank, just ask to withdraw $2,000 in 50's and 20's.

Fred, I was just thinking this same thing. Our bank is supposedly regionally owned, but I still wonder if it's "safe" . . . as if anything really is these days.

And if the dollar is devalued, will it do any good to have paper money in hand? Better than only having digits in an account somewhere, I suppose... you can always use it for kindling/insulation. ;>

We went out and bought 5 fruit trees to add to our lawn. We have a gobzoodle of heirloom seeds in our freezer. We have a garden that I am hoping to double this summer. We are hoping to buy a chicken coop and hens for laying this summer as well. We are building our stocks, even though my mother thinks I'm silly for buying so much flour (hint, people, be sure to freeze it for 3 days, or you may find your flour stocks infested by nasty little beasties called weevils) and salt and oil and baking soda and sugar and rice and dried beans and fruits. Being able to feed my family comes primary, followed closely by protecting them as best we can. I think keeping my eye on that, for now, is going to be my focus.

[9eagle9]

There will be gross inflation first where money won't buy nearly what it did, but may allow some late to the party people to stock up before it crashes into being worth nothing they may have a two to five day window or thereabouts assuming they can get their hands on their money at all. . A sweep effect probably, some areas being hit hard first, and then other regions perhaps not so much so.....locally there may be money exchanged, like stores staying open and accepting money simply because people are resistant to the notion that the dollar will devalue at all.

While I have lots of non perishables making them palatable is going to be problem and I am focusing on getting things like dehydrated butter and then other sorts of non perishable seasonings.

[PurpleLama]

There will be gross inflation first where money won't buy nearly what it did, but may allow some late to the party people to stock up before it crashes into being worth nothing they may have a two to five day window or thereabouts assuming they can get their hands on their money at all. . A sweep effect probably, some areas being hit hard first, and then other regions perhaps not so much so.....locally there may be money exchanged, like stores staying open and accepting money simply because people are resistant to the notion that the dollar will devalue at all.

While I have lots of non perishables making them palatable is going to be problem and I am focusing on getting things like dehydrated butter and then other sorts of non perishable seasonings.

http://www.bulkfoods.com/

[9eagle9]

thanks for that link, I'm going to purchase a few pounds of it.

When I get a free afternoon I'm going to can butter which is probably a bit more economical but can also be done after everything shuts down, I'd still like to have the dehydrated sort on hand in the meantime.

[intruth]

9eagle9,

Where do you get dehydrated butter?

[gripreaper]

Lindsey Williams chimes in, and I didn't have the heart to start a new thread and give that much energy to Lindsey. Yet, JPM loses 2 billion just days after Lindsey put together his new CD, by the Divine providence of God of course. Here are the highlights.

1. There is a group of people who control the world.
2. NOTHING happens by chance.
3. The collapse has been planned a long time in advance.
4. Look for a sign, which is a "crack" in the Derivatives Bubble.
5. JPM has derivatives exposure of over 70 TRILLION dollars. This 2 billion loss is just the tip of the iceberg.
6. The overall exposure of the big banks, to big to fail, is in the HUNDREDS OF TRILLIONS !!
7. 4 things to watch:
....a. derivatives
....b. currency wars
....c. trade wars
....d. rise n interest rates
8. Anybody still in paper will lose everything.
9. Europe is imploding. America will follow.
10. any day, without warning, the banks will not open.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=M3WEDsqUo7o

Here is a thread I started on derivatives exposure:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?44008-What-the-Derivatives-Bubble-Looks-Like

here is a graphic on what the derivatives exposure looks like:

http://demonocracy.info/infographics/usa/derivatives/bank_exposure.html

[9eagle9]

PL just posted a link. Most food storage, and online stores that sell emergency food packages sell dehdrated butter as well. You can use as flake or powder to season or re-constitute it with vegetable oil to get a sort of liquid butter.

You might also want to look for canned butter, comes in a tin can the same way veggies do.

I need to sort get off this train of thought, the world is about to collapse and all I can think of is butter. (as usual).





9eagle9,

Where do you get dehydrated butter?

[GoodETxSG]

:flame::flame: Great News... BURN JP... BURN!!! :flame::flame:

[Arrowwind]

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Apocalypse Fairly Soon

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Suddenly, it has become easy to see how the euro — that grand, flawed experiment in monetary union without political union — could come apart at the seams. We’re not talking about a distant prospect, either. Things could fall apart with stunning speed, in a matter of months, not years. And the costs — both economic and, arguably even more important, political — could be huge.

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This doesn’t have to happen; the euro (or at least most of it) could still be saved. But this will require that European leaders, especially in Germany and at the European Central Bank, start acting very differently from the way they’ve acted these past few years. They need to stop moralizing and deal with reality; they need to stop temporizing and, for once, get ahead of the curve.
I wish I could say that I was optimistic.
The story so far: When the euro came into existence, there was a great wave of optimism in Europe — and that, it turned out, was the worst thing that could have happened. Money poured into Spain and other nations, which were now seen as safe investments; this flood of capital fueled huge housing bubbles and huge trade deficits. Then, with the financial crisis of 2008, the flood dried up, causing severe slumps in the very nations that had boomed before.
At that point, Europe’s lack of political union became a severe liability. Florida and Spain both had housing bubbles, but when Florida’s bubble burst, retirees could still count on getting their Social Security and Medicare checks from Washington. Spain receives no comparable support. So the burst bubble turned into a fiscal crisis, too.
Europe’s answer has been austerity: savage spending cuts in an attempt to reassure bond markets. Yet as any sensible economist could have told you (and we did, we did), these cuts deepened the depression in Europe’s troubled economies, which both further undermined investor confidence and led to growing political instability.
And now comes the moment of truth.

Greece is, for the moment, the focal point. Voters who are understandably angry at policies that have produced 22 percent unemployment — more than 50 percent among the young — turned on the parties enforcing those policies. And because the entire Greek political establishment was, in effect, bullied into endorsing a doomed economic orthodoxy, the result of voter revulsion has been rising power for extremists. Even if the polls are wrong and the governing coalition somehow ekes out a majority in the next round of voting, this game is basically up: Greece won’t, can’t pursue the policies that Germany and the European Central Bank are demanding.
So now what? Right now, Greece is experiencing what’s being called a “bank jog” — a somewhat slow-motion bank run, as more and more depositors pull out their cash in anticipation of a possible Greek exit from the euro. Europe’s central bank is, in effect, financing this bank run by lending Greece the necessary euros; if and (probably) when the central bank decides it can lend no more, Greece will be forced to abandon the euro and issue its own currency again.
This demonstration that the euro is, in fact, reversible would lead, in turn, to runs on Spanish and Italian banks. Once again the European Central Bank would have to choose whether to provide open-ended financing; if it were to say no, the euro as a whole would blow up.

Yet financing isn’t enough. Italy and, in particular, Spain must be offered hope — an economic environment in which they have some reasonable prospect of emerging from austerity and depression. Realistically, the only way to provide such an environment would be for the central bank to drop its obsession with price stability, to accept and indeed encourage several years of 3 percent or 4 percent inflation in Europe (and more than that in Germany).

Both the central bankers and the Germans hate this idea, but it’s the only plausible way the euro might be saved. For the past two-and-a-half years, European leaders have responded to crisis with half-measures that buy time, yet they have made no use of that time. Now time has run out.
So will Europe finally rise to the occasion? Let’s hope so — and not just because a euro breakup would have negative ripple effects throughout the world. For the biggest costs of European policy failure would probably be political.

Think of it this way: Failure of the euro would amount to a huge defeat for the broader European project, the attempt to bring peace, prosperity and democracy to a continent with a terrible history. It would also have much the same effect that the failure of austerity is having in Greece, discrediting the political mainstream and empowering extremists.
All of us, then, have a big stake in European success — yet it’s up to the Europeans themselves to deliver that success. The whole world is waiting to see whether they’re up to the task.

[GoodETxSG]

PL just posted a link. Most food storage, and online stores that sell emergency food packages sell dehdrated butter as well. You can use as flake or powder to season or re-constitute it with vegetable oil to get a sort of liquid butter.

You might also want to look for canned butter, comes in a tin can the same way veggies do.

I need to sort get off this train of thought, the world is about to collapse and all I can think of is butter. (as usual).





9eagle9,

Where do you get dehydrated butter?

I got a good deal of my dehydrated food at Emergency Essentials... http://beprepared.com/category.asp_Q_c_E_920_A_c2c_E_tn_A_name_E_FoodStorage&sid=INEM1238&EID=ALL0512f&lm=emer

[Lettherebelight]

They're all coming together for the big Pow Wow.


G8 leaders look to head off euro zone crisis

By Laura MacInnis and Jeff Mason

WASHINGTON | Fri May 18, 2012 3:01pm EDT

(Reuters) - Leaders of major industrial economies meet this weekend to try to tackle a full-blown crisis in Europe where fears are growing that Greece could leave the euro zone bloc, threatening the future of the common currency.

President Barack Obama, the G8 host, has urged European leaders repeatedly to do more to stimulate growth, fearing contagion from the euro crisis that could hurt the U.S. economy and his chances of re-election in November.

British Prime Minister David Cameron, who has been increasingly vocal in urging Europe to do more to resolve the debt crisis, will tell leaders they must work together to stop it from spreading worldwide, an aide said.

No major economic policy decisions are expected from the talks but officials said Obama hoped to promote a discussion on a comprehensive approach to resolving the crisis.

He will seek to cement a bond with France's new leader at the White House later on Friday before heading to Camp David for the talks.

Francois Hollande, sworn in this week as French president, has already made waves by challenging Europe's austerity focus and saying he will pull French combat troops from Afghanistan by the end of this year.

Obama, 50, may use their introductory meeting in the Oval Office to encourage the 57-year-old Socialist to rethink his Afghanistan plans that put France on an earlier exit timetable than other NATO allies.

But the two leaders, who have both expressed support for pro-growth policies in Europe, are expected to form a common front on the euro zone crisis that could dominate this weekend's Group of Eight talks.

Obama's administration spent heavily to tackle the 2007-2009 U.S. recession, and Hollande is seeking to take the edge off austerity with more job-creating infrastructure investments.

He is not alone. Cameron has become increasingly vocal in demanding Europe's leaders act more decisively, Canada's Stephen Harper has been a frequent critic, and of the euro zone G8 members, Italian premier Mario Monti was calling for profound growth measures even before Hollande did.

That could leave Germany's Angela Merkel, who insists debt-cutting programs cannot be diluted, cutting a lonely figure.

The G8 summit comes as Greeks are pulling cash from banks amid growing fears that it might crash out of the single currency euro zone. Financial markets fear for the future of the entire currency zone, with Spain's banking sector also under pressure.

The U.S. dollar climbed, world shares fell and German borrowing costs hit record lows on Friday as a deepening Spanish banking crisis, uncertainty about Greece's future in the euro zone and lackluster U.S. data provoked a rush for safe-haven assets.

Heather Conley, a senior fellow at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, said Hollande and Obama "see things very similarly about the need for a better balance between fiscal consolidation, austerity and economic growth".

One of Obama's closest aides, National Security Adviser Tom Donilon, said the United States welcomed the evolving debate in Europe about the "imperative for jobs and growth", but he said the president's intention was not to drive a wedge between Europe's two biggest economies, Germany and France.

"I don't think that the nature of these conversations are going to be anything like taking one side or the other," he told reporters on Thursday.

"The president looks forward to leading a discussion among the leaders about the imperative of having a comprehensive approach to manage the crisis and get on a sustainable path towards recovery in Europe."

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Obama, a Democrat, has pitched a similarly "balanced" approach combining short-term stimulus and longer-term cuts to heal the U.S. economy and stoke hiring that has not recovered from the financial crisis.

His presumed White House opponent, Republican Mitt Romney, has made reducing the U.S. debt load, which has escalated during Obama's tenure, one of his key campaign messages.

"A balanced approach that includes not just austerity but growth and job creation is the right approach," White House spokesman Jay Carney said on Thursday, explaining Obama's message to the G8.

Bruce Jones of the Brookings Institution said because Obama's re-election prospects hinge so directly on the health of the American economy, he has a huge interest in getting Europe on a healthy growth track. "Even if he wasn't in an election season, any president of the United States has a lot riding on the Europeans getting this right," he said.

Cameron, worried about the impact of the euro zone crisis on a weak British economy, will call for a "strong and united commitment to securing the economic recovery and to support job creation," his aide said.

Also on the summit agenda will be the price of oil and policy options to address it, although Brent crude hit a 2012 low on Friday.

"I'm sure that the leaders will discuss the range of options that they might have before them," Donilon said.

Economic policy outcomes are not expected from the closed-door talks at Camp David, a rustic presidential escape about two hours from Washington that Obama has visited far less frequently than his predecessor George W. Bush.

The White House moved the summit to the Maryland retreat from Chicago in part to give the meeting a more informal flavor, as well as to escape the possibility of protests when Russian President Vladimir Putin was slated to attend.

His prime minister, Dmitri Medvedev, will be there instead, along with G8 first-timers Hollande and Yoshihiko Noda of Japan. Monti, Cameron, Harper, Merkel and Obama complete the line-up of leaders and European Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso and European Council President Herman Van Rompuy will also attend.

Van Rompuy held a conference call with the European attendees on Thursday to "coordinate positions".

The White House said each leader would get their own cabin, albeit of different sizes. It will be the largest international summit ever held at Camp David, which was built in the 1930s and is best known as the site of past Middle East peace talks.

Conley of CSIS acknowledged Obama's power to exert influence over Europe over weekend was "somewhat limited".

"Nevertheless, I think the president can play a role of listening, helping leaders find common ground," she said. "We are going to have to watch how this plays out with the frustration in recognizing that it will have a profound impact for the global economy and for the U.S. economy."

[DeDukshyn]

I took a check to JP MorganChase drawn off their account to cash. THEIR check. They wouldn't honor it.

Amazing. They claimed it was because I didn't have an account there. The bank manager said to me, why not open an account (they apparently wanted the check for deposit but not to be paid to cash) You' are in here all the time anyway.

Uhm....no I'm not. (how weird!!)

"Well we can check to make sure the check is good."

Uhm. I'd certainly hope so since the check is from JP Morgan Chase...(lol)

Every time I venture beyond my own yard the world gets weirder and weirder. People claim I'm a bit of an agorphobic and don't get out and engage in the world and this is what I get when I do.


By the time all is said and done, the amount of money lost
will be in the trillions. I'm sure it wasn't lost though, it was
stolen by the JP Morgan banks. They are gearing up for the
NWO takeover, i'm betting....

I would have taken this a step further ... (but I'm an ass ;-)

I would have asked if there's any administration cost for them to opening account (of course there is), and I would have established with the clerk that also there would be some for closing an account. Then I would have had him opened the account, asked him to deposit the check, then when he asked "is there anything else I can do for you today?" I would have said "yes, I'd like to withdraw all my cash and close the account, congratulations bub - you and you your stupid company's desire to suck more money out of people just cost your stupid company more money." -- but then, I have likely an unmatched hatred for big banks and doing stupid little things like that give me some sense of satisfaction. ;-)

Local banks I can live with a little easier, but creating debt for a cost under any circumstance is absurd as it actually sounds. We've just been conditioned to think it is "normal way of life"

Also people, money doesn't just "disappear" -- someone has it.

[PurpleLama]

PL just posted a link. Most food storage, and online stores that sell emergency food packages sell dehdrated butter as well. You can use as flake or powder to season or re-constitute it with vegetable oil to get a sort of liquid butter.

You might also want to look for canned butter, comes in a tin can the same way veggies do.

I need to sort get off this train of thought, the world is about to collapse and all I can think of is butter. (as usual).





9eagle9,

Where do you get dehydrated butter?

I got a good deal of my dehydrated food at Emergency Essentials... http://beprepared.com/category.asp_Q_c_E_920_A_c2c_E_tn_A_name_E_FoodStorage&sid=INEM1238&EID=ALL0512f&lm=emer

The thing about the site I posted is they have $5 shipping on orders over $75. I ordered a 50 lb bucket of lentils, about $87, plus shipping, and they are set to arrive in less than a week, for instance. IIRC, beprepared was 20 less on the item, but fifty bucks on the shipping. The drawback is it's not a super huge variety and just as much candy as food, but for staple items in large quantity it's the best deal, mainly taking into account the shipping. For smaller quantities/weight you may do better on beprepared.

[InTheBackground]

I need to sort get off this train of thought, the world is about to collapse and all I can think of is butter. (as usual).

]

LOL, 9Eagle9 -- if you have access to anyone with a cow (or a goat???), my mom and dad tell me that anyone can make butter fresh using a plain old canning jar... :)


JP Morgan/Chase bought our mortgage, sigh. I wonder what this means, in the long run. Although if things crash, I suppose it won't make a bit of difference in the long run. I'm not worrying about it.