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Oouthere
23rd May 2012, 02:03
If this is true the United States is about ready to have a fork stuck in her. Imagine your power bill going from $100 to $800 per month.....

Power bill article. (http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/05/22/obamas-war-on-coal-hits-your-electric-bill/print#ixzz1vdALNXOI)

Rich

NewFounderHome
23rd May 2012, 02:19
Well US will need to find other ways of generating electricity (Other then Nuke and Coal).

Using tied, sun, thermal, wind or zero point energy.

Unified Serenity
23rd May 2012, 02:41
I say we burn all the bullsh*t paper they keep printing in Washington D.C., take away all the pensions from the many ticks in said local, unearth all the free energy patents, and end big oil. That's not all I would do, but it's a start, like "10,000 lobbyists at the bottom of the ocean.

Dennis Leahy
23rd May 2012, 03:03
Hmmmmmm....

"...It’s the result of an unprecedented regulatory assault on coal ..."
Good. Kill coal. It's about goddamn time that we killed off the most ecocidal industries. Bring on the truly green energy revolution. This may be exactly what it takes to finally wake up the snorons (snoring morons) that thought they could remain asleep between episodes of American Idol.

"...end Obama’s War on Coal and repeal this destructive regulatory agenda."
This is all a part of the Big Plan by the Financial Elite to get citizens to demand that corporations (that have almost no environmental regulation) to have none. In addition to this, there is an onslaught of mining companies that have been drooling over "mineral rights" for many years. Due to the exporting so many jobs, and high rate of unemployment, mine workers have begun to demand that these filthy, unsafe, ecocidal mining operations get the green light everywhere. Here in northern Minnesota, we have one of the most spectacular semi-wilderness paradise National Parks: BWCAW (Boundary Waters Canoe Area Wilderness.) We also have the largest body of fresh water in the world (Lake Superior), and right now we have a VERY controversial, ecocidal, (and did they really just kill striking workers?) multinational corporation and world's largest commodities trader, Glencore (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glencore)*, major shareholders in the Canadian corporate mining outfit Polymet, who want to create a sulfide mine (to get copper, nickel, gold, and other minerals) close to the BWCAW.

This threatens the $3 billion dollar a year fishing/canoeing/recreational use of the BWCAW, but the mining company could care less - and some local miners that are out of work want the mine to open.

These few hundred jobs - temporary jobs at that, and they already admitted they would bring in "some" outside workers - permanently threaten the area's biggest money-making industry (semi-wilderness tourism) with sulfuric acid runoff, sulfide dust becoming acid rain, destruction of wildlife habitat and the sacred grain (manoomin) of the areas Anishinaabe Native Tribal Peoples. Some streams and aquifers would eventually go to Lake Superior, an international treasure chest of fresh water, the commodity that some say will be as valuable as oil is now. The rest would make their way to the Mississippi headwaters, so that Minnesota could spread sulfide-laced water all the way through the heart of the Midwest, on down to Louisiana and the already poisoned Gulf. This would never have gotten this far without the Financial Elite creating the economic suppression to force people to make terrible decisions about their own immediate surroundings. The owner of Glencore won't be here in 2 or 5 or 20 years to experience the environmental destruction, he'll be back in Switzerland and the Polymet boys will be back in Canada

*(more on Glencore:
On 20 May 2011, The Times Business Editor, Ian King, ...in a remarkably robust comment, King damned Glencore as "...a business with dubious morals. It trades grain amid food riots and has been accused of profiteering and environmental offences in numerous poor and war-torn countries”.)

Glencore is also in coal and coal-fired electric plants, a natural segue back on to the core of the topic.

Dennis

StarDust
23rd May 2012, 07:16
Free energy technology is soon to be released. The only ones who will be afraid will be the power companies themselves. Consequently, Fox News is going to have to find something else to peddle other than fear.

Carmen
23rd May 2012, 07:23
My family and I are about to complete a mini hydro on our properties to generate our own electricity. We also have alternatives that are independent of electricity. Years ago I realized just how dependent we all were on power companies and set out to remedy that. Power costs have not increased that much in New Zealand but they are set to go up!

mountain_jim
23rd May 2012, 12:48
Hmmmmmm....

"...It’s the result of an unprecedented regulatory assault on coal ..."
Good. Kill coal. It's about goddamn time that we killed off the most ecocidal industries. Bring on the truly green energy revolution. This may be exactly what it takes to finally wake up the snorons (snoring morons) that thought they could remain asleep between episodes of American Idol.

"...end Obama’s War on Coal and repeal this destructive regulatory agenda."
This is all a part of the Big Plan by the Financial Elite to get citizens to demand that corporations (that have almost no environmental regulation) to have none. .....
Dennis

Frackin' Exactly. The coal-fired power plants have whined and cried for years, managing to avoid paying for the scrubbers than would stop grossly polluting and acidifying the air. Where I live the high-elevation soils and trees have shown the negative affects of this for years. And many coal power plants have avoided the regulations requiring cleanup with technicalities and lax enforcement.

This article is a great example of how an industry can leverage fear in people, tie an issue to their hatred of whoever is prez at the time, in order to get their assent to keep killing them (and Mother Earth) slowly but surely.

I also am considering a micro-hydro power system for my place, if electricity prices rise much then the economic case could get me to overcome my aesthetic objections to having pipes in my mountain stream to feed the micro-hydro turbine system.

Where I live a good portion of the electricity I use is from (relatively) clean hydropower sources, so that helps keep prices lower.

The suppressed energy inventions to replace coal and oil and gas fracking can't come soon enough.

Oouthere
23rd May 2012, 12:52
LOL, I posted that after about four beers last night...clime...sheesh!

This is a double edged sword, but I'll believe free energy is to be used when I see it. I've built so many different units that were supposed to be free energy and none of them worked as advertised. My current unit (version #7) is based on this patent (http://www.rexresearch.com/alxandr/alexandr.htm) but is no where close to over unity.

Rich

whenyournex2me
24th May 2012, 00:41
Ya know, I value some other things more than lil pieces of green paper, maybe, one day, everyone else will to.

CdnSirian
25th May 2012, 01:22
Dennis, great info, thanks.

NewFounderHome
25th May 2012, 03:51
US, Canada and the world are so stuck in old type of energies, it's not even funny.

It will take a garage inventor that will find new energy tech and want to give it to the world. It is a mistake to think to register an invention.
This type of invention will never go pas any government. It will be needed to be given to the world for free. No corporation will do this type of service to the world. But an individual can do that.
If the plans where free and precise it could be repeated all across the world and that would break the actual high level control.

No it's not a dream or a wish. It is a must. It is a simple as that!