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Midnight
24th May 2012, 06:14
I remember reading various accounts of so-called contactees describing pleasant encounters with attractive, human-looking ets that happened in the fifties. Lately, these type of experiences don't seem to be happening, or at least I'm not connecting with the accounts. The channeled stuff is dubious to say the least, so I won't seriously consider it as positive et material.

So what do we have now? We have greys and probably reptilians and probably others ets that are only interested in exploiting Earth, which is what the countries of Europe were only interested in when they carved up the rest of the world.

It is hard for me to believe that only negative ets are here, exploiting this farm. On a smaller scale, there is good and bad operating here on planet Earth. It just seems logical that there must be good and bad aliens here in this galaxy, this solar system, this planet.

So where are they, and I mean the good guys? I would like them to show themselves. I don't mean to say that they should save us. I just would like them to help us negate the negative ets that keep us trapped in the matrix.

I'm hoping we are not alone facing the dark et force. Sorry new agers, but I think we need some help.

RedeZra
24th May 2012, 06:43
we got the good angels

and then we got God


but God is not happy with us

so we are left with the bad

Tigressa
24th May 2012, 06:59
They are here among us! We exist interdimensionally. The more you transmute your blocks, the more you will realise you may too be part of the solution. Best of luck!;)

Midnight
24th May 2012, 07:02
I hope you are right, Tigressa!

eileenrose
24th May 2012, 07:43
Sorry, I have no evidence of the existence of evil aliens.
Just human's hurting one another.

One thing I don't stay up late worrying about.

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Just saying, you don't need good aliens if there are no evil aliens (as one thought comes from the other).

RedeZra
24th May 2012, 07:55
Sorry, I have no evidence of the existence of evil aliens.


Yes that's exactly what we said to Galileo Galilei

the Church have no evidence for a heliocentric system


we didn't say sorry though ; )

eileenrose
24th May 2012, 08:00
Sorry, I have no evidence of the existence of evil aliens.


Yes that's exactly what we said to Galileo Galilei

the Church have no evidence for a heliocentric system


we didn't say sorry though ; )

Evidence?
Otherwise, it is just an idea (re: evil aliens existence and we should be concerned).

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Right now I am dealing with evil doers, like Senator Durbin right at this moment trying to get rid of supplements (for the upteenth time) with an addendum....the petition had to be in today (and they just told us about his little amendment an hour ago).

I am just saying....got to prioritize.

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No 'evil aliens' in sight. Just masters of delusion (our senators...ie. politicians, government officials, military, etc.).

D-Day
24th May 2012, 08:05
Forget about the good ETs.
Will the GOOD HUMANS please stand up!!!

eileenrose
24th May 2012, 08:14
If an alien decides to visit me, I am not going to know enough to evaluate their good-ness or evil-ness.

It will probably be the last thing on my mind.

It will, I assume, be like meeting another human (who may or may not present themselves differently....ie. not be in a human form).

Just saying....this is a complex subject....and I don't take it 'lightly'...evaluating beings we havn't yet engaged with (if ever).

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I prefer to play with my imaginary friends in private (a joke).

ozlemer
24th May 2012, 08:38
Yeah, I was wondering about that too. There were so many contact between the 50's and 70's. Now we don't hear much. Kinda makes you wonder...

WhiteFeather
24th May 2012, 10:48
You need not look far. Just look in the mirror. Some say we have over 22 different types of ET races in our DNA pool. So smile when you look in the mirror and say Nanoo Nanoo.

Eagle Eye
24th May 2012, 11:23
Do you think we will evolve, being helped by benevolent E.T ? They are there watching each step we make for our evolution. We need to take responsability of our actions (free will) not ask for help because we are not inferior being, we just need to remember our true power. From difficulties we learn, from evil actions we understand light, we need this duality to evolve. We will win this game when we choose spirituality over materialism.

WhiteFeather
24th May 2012, 11:46
Do you think we will evolve, being helped by benevolent E.T ? They are there watching each step we make for our evolution. We need to take responsability of our actions (free will) not ask for help because we are not inferior being, we just need to remember our true power. From difficulties we learn, from evil actions we understand light, we need this duality to evolve. We will win this game when we choose spirituality over materialism.

F
IR S T CONT ACT WI LL BE AN EN COU NT E R WI T H US AS

ASC EN DE D MAS T E R S AND MU LT I- DI ME NS I ON AL BE IN GS

http://www.stankovuniversallaw.com/2011/01/first-contact-of-humanity-with-the-forces-of-light-a-probable-scenario/

dim
24th May 2012, 13:52
It's because they saw that a little chat here and there wouldn't cut it
and began to incarnate as humans sometime after 1945 and lots more after in the 60s and then the 80s.
You might having contacts with them everyday, your neibhor could be one, your school teacher or even... you.

The Federation wont openly contact the masses no matter what, it would be completely contradictory to their mission here, they aren't here to save anyone.
Most of the time they are waiting until somebody swims out of these muddy waters by himself and only they will reach out and drag him over
and this is the case with many right now in the shift that is occuring.

Fred Steeves
24th May 2012, 14:18
I'm hoping we are not alone facing the dark et force.

There's no other way to face "them".

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DarMar
24th May 2012, 14:47
Where are the good ETs?

Im here \o/

And couple of them on this forum also.
But has nothing to do with anyones expectations also.
Specially with filling "empty" desires.. desire will lead you ... you know where ;)

Even if someone's core is programmed to believe that you can be good and get involved into fights, thats not actuality.
There is no saviour army same as there is no gun to plant a flower. Gun is made to kill, not plant flowers.
So if you expect some "good" ET to change your thought pattern or lead war for you, think again!

Would it really be "good" ET than?

Ron Mauer Sr
24th May 2012, 15:01
I do really appreciate help from ETs disabling nuclear weapons.

Wind
24th May 2012, 15:37
Right here! :wave:

ET's and angels reincarnated as humans and have been doing it for a while now. I hear also that there are many archangels in human form right now. It was the only possibly (and allowed) way to help humanity without breaking the law of free will. When all this is over I'm really glad that I'm able return to the stars, where I belong! :)

Maia Gabrial
24th May 2012, 16:05
I agree that we're more than we've been lead to believe. So, if you think about it, people can't use their power if they don't know they have power....

If you're not hearing about any ET or alien activities, then where are you looking? Lame Stream isn't going to report anything anymore. Ask yourselves -- why? If you guys would take the time to read The Dulce Book, it'll tell you exactly why you're not hearing anything even though it's happening all around you. The good guys ARE here. Some are on the ground with us, perfectly camouflaged within our midst. Others are moving through dimensions (because the battle going on is NOT as simple as just happening on the 3D).

I've been told awhile ago, to work on myself and I'll start to see them. Some will roll their eyes on this, but LOVE does many things for you. You want to see the good guys? Focus on that with loving intentions and they'll come....
Just my experience....

Andreash94
24th May 2012, 16:52
but LOVE does many things for you. You want to see the good guys? Focus on that with loving intentions and they'll come....
Just my experience....

TY for info Gabrial ... im gona try this ... i had some experiences duno if was good or bad i couldnt say but i kno i was paralyze in bad and scared... maybe our fear make us to think tey are bad duno ..but when that fear come i can't stop her . but il try whit love intention :nod:

dddanieljjjamesss
24th May 2012, 16:59
Honestly, I've never seen a negative or a positive ET.

Potentially had one astral encounter that could be deemed neutral. That's about it!

Mike Gorman
24th May 2012, 17:06
How can anything resembling 'GOD' be unhappy with us-the compassion of an infinite being, a Creative force of unimaginable magnitude
how could that being be unhappy with the Human race, beset as it is with obstacles of limited knowledge, of endless struggles with animal violence and
and brutish impulses-striving as we always are with 'improving ourselves' seeking to know, seeking to understand our own natures.
I cannot conceive this God being so mean spirited as to be 'unhappy' with such a flawed and struggling collection of Beings?

donk
24th May 2012, 17:35
Maybe it has more to do with availability of information?

Back in the 50's, there were no internets...so info was much easier to control. Most published stuff was "feel-good", which is why people associate that time as "the good ol' days"...prosperity and happiness (for the white middle class that could read or afford books/time to read them.

Also, the phenomenon was relatively new/changed--from angels/demons...you get into evil ETs and get lumped in with "satanic"?

I think it may be kind of a limiting exercise to just take the 50's vs now--with so little context, no?

People tend to write and vent scary stuff/warnings/trauma as a therapeutic exercise or for the thrill. I know that back before I focused on my spiritual growth, whenever I have good personal experiences, I was less likely to share them then I was something traumatic that happened to me--and now anyone can put their story out there...perhaps that is the "norm"?

Maia Gabrial
24th May 2012, 19:35
TY for info Gabrial ... im gona try this ... i had some experiences duno if was good or bad i couldnt say but i kno i was paralyze in bad and scared... maybe our fear make us to think tey are bad duno ..but when that fear come i can't stop her . but il try whit love intention

I read that the military has been trying to make conatct with the interdimensionals who make the crop circles, but are having no luck. The reason is that the interdimensionals can read their minds and intentions. In other words, they don't trust them. If you're going to try and make contact, make sure you have honest and good intentions.... There's no fooling them....

James Gilliland tells you how to make contact, too; if you go to his website....

Billy
24th May 2012, 20:40
The good Et's are in a good place having a good time. They await good humans to join in on the good fun and share in good times ahead.

For goodness sake, How good could that be.

Peace

wobbegong
24th May 2012, 22:47
Good question:-) After much research, to me the info that resonates the most is in MV Summers' Allies material (http://www.alliesofhumanity.org/).
Basically they say our true allies will not show up here. Here's some excerpts:
"...We have seen much. We have encountered many different things. Our
worlds were overcome and we had to regain our freedom. We
know, from error and from experience, the nature of the conflict
and the challenge that you face today. That is why we are
well suited for this mission in our service to you. However,
you will not meet us, and we will not come to meet the leaders
of your nations. That is not our purpose.
Indeed, you need as little interference as possible, but
you do need great assistance. There are new skills that you
must develop and a new understanding that you must gain.
Even a benevolent society, should they come to your world,
would have such an influence and such an impact upon you
that you would become dependent upon them and would not
establish your own strength, your own power and your own
self-sufficiency. You would be so reliant upon their technology
and upon their understanding that they would not
be able to leave you. And indeed, their arrival here
would make you even more vulnerable to interference
in the future.

That is why your future friends are not here.
That is why they are not coming to help you. For
you would not become strong if they did. You
would want to associate with them, you would want to have
alliances with them, but you would be so weak that you could
not protect yourselves. In essence, you would become part of
their culture, which they do not will.
Perhaps many people will not be able to understand
what we are saying here, but in time this will make
perfect sense to you, and you will see its wisdom
and its necessity. At this moment, you are far too
frail, too distracted and too conflicted to form
strong alliances, even with those who could be
your future friends. Humanity cannot yet speak as
one voice, and so you are prone to intervention
and manipulation from beyond.
We understand from the Unseen Ones that already there
are people who seek world dominion because they believe
they have the visitors’ blessings and support.

Your visitors do not have this freedom. It is unknown to
them. They look at the chaos of your world, and they believe
that the order that they will impose here will be redeeming for
you and will save you from your own self-destruction. ..."

To me it makes sense.
I remember hearing a phrase somewhere (I think it was J Gilliland saying it) that said something about good news because: "The benevolents are in charge", and my first thought was that I don't want an outside race to come here and take charge...

DreamsInDigital
24th May 2012, 22:58
From what I understand, Allies Of Humanity is one of the best Military Industrial Complex pieces of disinformation ever written. Certainly people can see the problem with the attempts to not only demonize the bad ones (which isn't such a bad idea, they are evil) but to Demonize the good ones as well. I have many other issues with that AOH, but no time to point them all out, but it's disinfo at it's best.

wobbegong
24th May 2012, 23:15
From what I understand, Allies Of Humanity is one of the best Military Industrial Complex pieces of disinformation ever written. Certainly people can see the problem with the attempts to not only demonize the bad ones (which isn't such a bad idea, they are evil) but to Demonize the good ones as well. I have many other issues with that AOH, but no time to point them all out, but it's disinfo at it's best.
Yes Dreamsindigital, you mentioned this in another post, if I remember correctly you said it was the opinion of Wilcock's forum moderators. I obviously disagree, there is nothing military or industrial in the Allies' material, but I do understand from some other posts of yours (some of which I actually quite appreciated) that our views on this one diverge too much to even debate it.

WhiteFeather
24th May 2012, 23:24
Here's A Good ET. I think I'm an Arcturian perhaps.
http://i1135.photobucket.com/albums/m628/whitefeather1111/whitefeather.jpg

DreamsInDigital
24th May 2012, 23:33
From what I understand, Allies Of Humanity is one of the best Military Industrial Complex pieces of disinformation ever written. Certainly people can see the problem with the attempts to not only demonize the bad ones (which isn't such a bad idea, they are evil) but to Demonize the good ones as well. I have many other issues with that AOH, but no time to point them all out, but it's disinfo at it's best.
Yes Dreamsindigital, you mentioned this in another post, if I remember correctly you said it was the opinion of Wilcock's forum moderators. I obviously disagree, there is nothing military or industrial in the Allies' material, but I do understand from some other posts of yours (some of which I actually quite appreciated) that our views on this one diverge too much to even debate it.
I meant among others that share the same opinion/thoughts regarding that, so do the Moderators on Wilcok's site. They and I are not the only ones. I didn't say there was anything Military or Industrial IN it, all I said was that it was put out by the Military / Industrial Complex and IS Disinformation, and yet one of the finest pieces of DISinformation ever written. And, you're right. I wouldn't be interested in debating it anyway. I'm respectfully not interested in anyone attempting to convince me otherwise, I trust my sources (not baring on DW's moderators at all) and know them to be reliable and know that AOH is disinformation. So, with respect, there is nothing to debate. One of those "agree to disagree" moments I think, yeah?

DeDukshyn
24th May 2012, 23:36
I remember reading various accounts of so-called contactees describing pleasant encounters with attractive, human-looking ets that happened in the fifties. Lately, these type of experiences don't seem to be happening, or at least I'm not connecting with the accounts. The channeled stuff is dubious to say the least, so I won't seriously consider it as positive et material.

So what do we have now? We have greys and probably reptilians and probably others ets that are only interested in exploiting Earth, which is what the countries of Europe were only interested in when they carved up the rest of the world.

It is hard for me to believe that only negative ets are here, exploiting this farm. On a smaller scale, there is good and bad operating here on planet Earth. It just seems logical that there must be good and bad aliens here in this galaxy, this solar system, this planet.

So where are they, and I mean the good guys? I would like them to show themselves. I don't mean to say that they should save us. I just would like them to help us negate the negative ets that keep us trapped in the matrix.

I'm hoping we are not alone facing the dark et force. Sorry new agers, but I think we need some help.

lol ... we don't need the "alien's" help. In fact that would defeat the entire purpose. What I will say is that they are here, behind the scenes, but conflict is just so far beneath them, and this realm has the powerful "Spell of Matter" that degrades frequencies real quick. Ultimately it is humanity that must make this journey. They are just here with popcorn - watching intently, and offering support in invisible ways. If they interfere too much the whole process could be compromised.

I thought it was the "New Agers" that believed in "good aliens" and that they were all a bunch of kooks for thinking that. Now they are all a bunch of kooks for the opposite. One thing is for certain on this topic ... the PTB have very successfully demonized the term "New Age" -- with much help from the unsuspecting pawns who did all their work for them -- most of the work was done right here on Avalon by people who don't even realize who their masters are and how they spread their work through them.

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How do you know I'm not an alien? Or anyone else for that matter?

WhiteFeather
24th May 2012, 23:39
We are the disclosure that we have been waiting for when we regain full spiritual consciousness. Some are already on this path. It's Time to raise your frequency and vibration, this is how we disclose ourselves to the galactic society as they await us in the wings of the universe.

Hint/Clue: ET's are running at this higher frequency/vibrational level. Why? Because they are highly spiritually evolved beings. There diets are also a clue. Most of them are fruitetarians, plant eaters or just live on Prana Light Energy. Alex Collier speaks of this, of the A's or Andromedan's if you will. Pane Andov also speaks of this concerning eating animal DNA lowering our vibrations. IMO we are still primitive man indulging in animal DNA. I too believe this hinders our frequency/vibration.

wobbegong
25th May 2012, 03:29
From what I understand, Allies Of Humanity is one of the best Military Industrial Complex pieces of disinformation ever written. Certainly people can see the problem with the attempts to not only demonize the bad ones (which isn't such a bad idea, they are evil) but to Demonize the good ones as well. I have many other issues with that AOH, but no time to point them all out, but it's disinfo at it's best.
Yes Dreamsindigital, you mentioned this in another post, if I remember correctly you said it was the opinion of Wilcock's forum moderators. I obviously disagree, there is nothing military or industrial in the Allies' material, but I do understand from some other posts of yours (some of which I actually quite appreciated) that our views on this one diverge too much to even debate it.
I meant among others that share the same opinion/thoughts regarding that, so do the Moderators on Wilcok's site. They and I are not the only ones. I didn't say there was anything Military or Industrial IN it, all I said was that it was put out by the Military / Industrial Complex and IS Disinformation, and yet one of the finest pieces of DISinformation ever written. And, you're right. I wouldn't be interested in debating it anyway. I'm respectfully not interested in anyone attempting to convince me otherwise, I trust my sources (not baring on DW's moderators at all) and know them to be reliable and know that AOH is disinformation. So, with respect, there is nothing to debate. One of those "agree to disagree" moments I think, yeah?

Yeah, no worries mate, like I said, I knew we couldn't agree on this one.

raweya
25th May 2012, 03:51
There is a lot of mis/dis-information out there. I agree with the Allies of Humanity material. After studying and reading much on ETs, its the only thing that really made sense to me. We, as humans, have the ability to become spiritually advanced and emerge into a universe full of intelligent life. What I read in AOH is about listening to our inner knowledge which in my experience is the best place to go for checking out truth. There are many voices speaking to humanity now. But not many I would trust. But I do trust the AOH.

Midnight
25th May 2012, 05:42
Why do I think we need help from the benevolent ETs, if they happen to be hanging out in our remote arm of the Milky Way galaxy? The answer is that the alien abductors have displayed technological powers that are thousands, if not milllions of years in advance of our puny technology.

We need some help from ETs that are playing on the same field as the ET types that are doing what they are doing with some human beings.

You can deny that this is happening if you are not an abductee. That is your right. Or you can listen to the thousands of stories, some that involve military personnel, and say, HELP!

Raising your spirit by meditating and by staying away from eating animal flesh is a wise course to chart. But this matrix is a elaborate trap in my opinion. Help outside of the spiritual component of humanity might be needed.

Maia Gabrial
25th May 2012, 15:57
Once you see signs of cockroaches in your house, you can bet that there'll be an infestation in a short time. It doesn't take long for them to multiply out of control. Folks, we have a "Bad Alien Infestation" here on Earth. These guys have done things to humanity you wouldn't believe. Denying that aliens are the ones in control on this planet is like hiding your head in the sand. But as they say regarding that, your a** makes a perfect target for them.... It seems as though the whole universe is aware of our infestation problem and some of them actually know the dangers we're in. The reason is that they have been through the same horrors as us. Too bad, so many people don't know....or want to know....

Whether you want to believe it or not, the good guys are here. I've been fortunate enough to meet some of them. Sorry, you'll have to take my word on that.

For all those who think they haven't met an alien or an ET, how do you KNOW you haven't met one or more already? Your conscious minds has a safety mechanism that will not allow you to remember if it's too traumatic for you.... Think about that....

Arrowwind
25th May 2012, 16:19
Here's A Good ET. I think I'm an Arcturian perhaps.
http://i1135.photobucket.com/albums/m628/whitefeather1111/whitefeather.jpg

Some of us have had our memory circles awakened. I was a Pleiadian. To clarify this, my soul is Pleiadian in origin. I came here long ago to support the human evolution. I did not come in a physical form. I came via soul. In this way alien races have blended. It does affect the DNA. Soul carries capabiity to imprint DNA. Although, due all the incarnations that I have been through in human form, I am now fully human in soul purpose and intent. I was aware when I chose that I would not be able to return but at times I long to "go home" even though I do not know where that is except that it is there in that star cluster. On a soul level I am human and commited to the human paradigm and evolution and will follow it. I am not clear on why I chose this path but do know that once upon a time long ago I was given the option/task and I chose. I wish I could remember more but I do not. This was revealed to me 34 years ago though an awakening experience I had while I was alone in the night under the stars. It does not matter if anyone believes this or not but folks like me are around and have been for a very long time. There is a plan much greater going on than most of can perceive.

Kali Lemorte
25th May 2012, 17:40
I do really appreciate help from ETs disabling nuclear weapons.

So do I. I love watching those videos and even.showed them to my older kids because they were programmed.by the media like many..to b afraid of things they don't understand. I believe it helped them.to be more positive. And hopeful

Guaxini
7th June 2012, 23:53
i saw an ufo today. i was on the beach with a friend, i star looking at the sky and saw a star what look like a star start moving very slowly a getting away. i know it was no plane cause planes have flshing ligths an i saw a couple of planes too.

just sharing, i dont know what it was but i have a feeling that was something not from this planet :D

tonius
8th June 2012, 01:06
I do really appreciate help from ETs disabling nuclear weapons.
Unless they do it not for the reasons you and me hope. We know know they do it but not why. If we are so under control and considered ''food'', than maybe the real reason is not to let the whole farm blow up. Don't know wich of the two scenarios is worse , being food or blow up .