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The One
5th August 2010, 12:20
Forty American billionaires have pledged to give at least half of their fortunes to charity as part of a campaign by Bill Gates and Warren Buffett
Surprise surprise Bill Gates name comes up again.
The amount of money this would generate is enormous. I get the feeling something else is going on and it wouldn’t surprise me if some of this money is funnelled through to black opps.
What do you think my friends we. I believe we won’t see any difference to these charities and the world will not be better off by it.
Those who can see the invisible can create the impossible.
Elandiel BernElve
5th August 2010, 12:21
George Lucas is one of the others who participates.
Celine
5th August 2010, 12:27
Didnt realize there were 40 billionaires in the states...
Money doesnt solve everything...thats obvious...but it does screw up alot!
bluestflame
5th August 2010, 12:46
let me allocate it
Steven
5th August 2010, 12:49
...Money doesnt solve everything...thats obvious...but it does screw up alot!
Lol ! You made me laugh Celine with this one. So true. Maybe, just maybe, that our dear rich people are suddently realizing that the gap between the rich and the poors is simply at the base of many, many problems. Disharmonious assets and wealth among people of Earth is reflected in the unbalanced way of life. Maybe, just maybe, that they are buying their beleived 'ascension' as it is in their mindset that everything is buyable :)
But yes, it wouldn't resolve much if the system by which they got that much money isn't changed. It is a step, a necessary step and I'm glad to hear they are making it. But still, we have to keep an eye on their next move to see if it's really a genuine act, nothing hidden under the sensationalism as it appears. Unfortunatly, the past is filled with these masquerades.
Namaste, Steven
rosie
5th August 2010, 12:56
I see this as proof positive that we are entering a more giving generation. This will get the ball rolling for more corporate organizations to do their part in giving back to this planet and it's people. The change is in the air, and the billionaires are starting to feel it, it cannot be stopped. :flame:
in love & light :wub:
ascendingstarseed
5th August 2010, 13:03
If they wanted to make a real difference with that money it wouldn't be funneled into charities and foundations where it can be siphoned right back out by the rich, or go to glorifying their names on projects that help the administrators, staff and fancy headquarters more than the needy.
What would make a difference is a real balancing of wealth...lets see there are only 6 billion or so people on the Earth. We have forty billionaires donating half their wealth...sounds to me like there's enough money to give at least $500 million to one billion dollars per person and plenty more left over to make the world a better place. Clean up pollution, build schools, invest in our infrastructure and alternative energy, cure cancer, public health care...just for a start.
Pan
5th August 2010, 13:06
Maybe, just maybe, that our dear rich people are suddently realizing that the gap between the rich and the poors is simply at the base of many, many problems. Disharmonious assets and wealth among people of Earth is reflected in the unbalanced way of life.
I sincerly doubt that.
Also, charity is tax deductable.
In many ways greed is a psychosis. And a serious psychosis if not treated only gets worse as time goes by.
That would make it very hard to believe that they had a golden moment and realised that they are at the base of many of todays problems.
I do confess it takes a lot of energy to stay open to the possibility without turning cynical.
Though my own personal idea is that there has been a massive "buyout" of some sorts. But I have nothing more then a gut feeling about that.
And my own personal hope is that when we get to the next step of this process, we can realise that it is wrong to connect money to the right of existence.
What would make a difference is a real balancing of wealth...lets see there are only 6 billion or so people on the Earth. We have forty billionaires donating half their wealth...sounds to me like there's enough money to give at least $500 million to one billion dollars per person and plenty more left over to make the world a better place. Clean up pollution, build schools, invest in our infrastructure and alternative energy, cure cancer, public health care...just for a start.
Lets not forget that we should account for 1000's of years of slavery and exploitation as well.
While I'm sure good will win and what we are doing and putting out is making a difference, we really should stop and think about what history has shown us again and again.
steve_a
5th August 2010, 13:21
Hi The One,
I think it's safe to assume that these billionnaires are intelligent people and are not out to make a name for themselves, as they already have done that in their own fields anyway.
So what drives tham to be so generous? What do they know that we don't? These are the questions that need to be answered.
Charity is tax deductable, so if this money was kept in their bank account, most of it would be seized by the inland revenue. Could it be that they don't agree with the top brass as to what their tax money is being spent on? Are they trying to influence the government as to what to do (after all 40b is a lot of money).
We know that Buffet puts his money in the Gates Foundation, so basically he is giving his money to Gates. Where will the others put their money, and what will they want in return? We know that Buffet and Gates beleive in population reduction. Are the others on board with this also? As I understand it I think some will go to ONU, which does promote aggressive birth control on developing countries.
All of these questions will eventually be answered. It will be interesting to see the answers.
Best regards,
Steve
tone3jaguar
5th August 2010, 13:24
They are attempting to wipe out vast amounts of bad karma in one shot. Not a bad way to go about doing it. Hording money way past your means is a huge waste of it.
Tuza
5th August 2010, 13:40
They are attempting to wipe out vast amounts of bad karma in one shot. Not a bad way to go about doing it. Hording money way past your means is a huge waste of it.
That's what I thought of as well Tone when I read the heading of this thread, yes hoarding money is a huge waste when you have got that much; but no matter what amounts they give and where it goes it just is not going to wipe out their karma and that is that. Their supposed to be smart men so I am sure they realise that. If I were them I would be asking myself what could I do to do some good in the world and I wouldn't be wasting time doing it aneither.
dreamchaser
5th August 2010, 13:41
Maybe the charity is a disguise, and they are actually paying for tickets? Sure we can guess all day.....
honeybee
5th August 2010, 14:05
:happy:
I see this as proof positive that we are entering a more giving generation. This will get the ball rolling for more corporate organizations to do their part in giving back to this planet and it's people. The change is in the air, and the billionaires are starting to feel it, it cannot be stopped. :flame:
in love & light :wub:
rosie, I have to say I agree with you. You can read through their letters at www.givingpledge.org. There is at least one mention of population control and vaccines which caused a bit of movement inside me, but the majority of doners on there seem genuinely concerned with charitable causes. Maybe I'm being naiive, but you can either choose to be cynical or hopeful. As I know we create our own reality I choose to be hopeful.
zenith
5th August 2010, 15:02
It's all energy and I wouldn't want to be sitting on that much (doing nothing with it) with today's vibes floating around.
Let's hope (if it happens) that it finds it's way to those most in need.
Peace
Elandiel BernElve
5th August 2010, 15:57
Maybe the charity is a disguise, and they are actually paying for tickets? Sure we can guess all day.....
Come on man, If Id win the lottery Id give away a lot of it. All of a sudden that makes me a target for conspiracy geeks? Because that is what you become if you dont trust ANYthing anymore and start thinking these things, saying them out loud without any proof or argument.
I dont think a ticket to safety would cost half the money the richest man on the planes has got.
This is not personal Dreamchaser because I like what you post and say:) but I do warn any of us that tend to take the whole conspiracy stuff too far. It reduces our credibility and quality of what we say.
Love & peace
dreamchaser
5th August 2010, 16:12
Did i overdo it with my statement? i appologise if I did. I spose Im a bit of a sceptic regarding some ppls intentions when they offer to give away money or do ANYthing really that they wouldnt usually do. And sometimes I do have to check me mood before I voice an opinion.
i can still manage to believe in miracles, and magic. Anything IS possible! :D
Love and peace to everyone! :love:
Sarahmay
5th August 2010, 17:20
There are a lot more than 40 billionaires in the US....who is missing from the list is a bit interesting. Oprah...Michael Dell...George Soros...The Waltons. The Waltons and Michael Dell are not known for being charitable, at least not the way they could be. Oprah certainly is, and she doesn't have as much money as the others, but she is a control freak about where her money goes. George Soros is busy thinking he is running the world of politics. Warren Buffet has always expressed his intention to give most of his money away, as has Ted Turner.
But...is this because they know the economy and the dollar is collapsing? You gotta wonder...
Decibellistics
5th August 2010, 20:42
I hope it is used correctly. That'd be pretty damn heinous if they laundered a bunch of it into places it doesn't deserve to go. Think of it like this.....That's gonna be a hell of a tax write off for those guys har har ha...em......errrr................lol.
dreamchaser
5th August 2010, 21:37
Anyone remember Band aid? they raised like £40 million, just for Ethiopia! What difference did it make for them? I mean, what good is money doing anyone? I believe its just an illusion, like so many other things planted into the middle of all out lives. But this is just one persons opinion. :)
Wookie
5th August 2010, 22:29
Does anyone have a list of "charities" that are going to get the money, i would like to see them before i make up my mind. It's not that i don't want to believe these Billionaires are doing something nice for the less fortunate, I just don't. What is the mandate of said "charities" and is it really in the best interest of the recipients. Who is in charge of said "charities" ok lets say I am a billionaire and my goals are inline with the global elite, I', going to give money to people that are caring out said goals. Now if I can covertly depopulate by sterilization and live virus vaccines under the guise of "charity" then my goals are being met and I look good doing it. I really hope I am wrong but when ever I hear of Billionaires doing something from the heart for the good of mankind I HAVE to ask more questions and try as hard as it might be to get to the bottom of it. I do not for one instant believe that they have the human races best interests at heart and dont forget TPTB are very patient, just because their goals will not be met in their lifetime does not make them anyless important to TPTB. I hope im wrong, I hope that a great shift is occuring and the billionaires are living in STO, I hope that all the other people striving to become billionaires follow the lead and realize money is not real and not worth stabbing fellow humans in the back for, I hope but i do not count on it.
Peaceful Journeys. Wookie
cloud9
6th August 2010, 01:14
I've always wondered what's been done so far with the huge amount of money collected just by Gates and Buffet, perhaps I'm not well informed but, what are they doing and where?
Please show me just one development or building or school built with that money!
I really truly think this is just an add campaign, just the money donated by those two men would have changed some place in earth already! Even a small village in Africa or South America but so far I haven't seen a hospital, school or whatever anywhere in the world. At least Oprah has a school for girls and it's working.
truthseekerdan
6th August 2010, 01:25
Obviously they know something we don't know?
One can say that monies are an endangered commodity... :confused:
jeannacav
6th August 2010, 02:47
Hi eveybody,
This is going to be a hard one to understand, but if you remember that we have been majorly hoodwinked, it will surely sound believable.
This part is background. If you already know this, then please skip to the dotted line and continue from there.
In the first half of the 20th century, the federal reserve act was foisted on the people of america.
It was a crazy bunch of doublespeak and mys-logic that combined banks and fed reserve notes, and the social security system and the income tax.
It was all of a piece.
The word note is the important operative word.
A note is a promise to pay on the loan.
What loan?
Did WE borrow money?
This note is a contractual promise of the people of the usa to pay back the bankers. [ not the promise that it used to be where the bank promised to pay the bearer the silver represented by the note.]
[And also, the income tax was the way to raise the amount of interest which is all that ever gets paid back.]
So, the usa and many other countries btw, signed a contract with the federal reserve that they would pay the interest on the notes outstanding, and the group they owed this money to was the bankers.
OK
The creature from Jeckyll Island is my favorite resource for this uncomfortable story.
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So, here is my thought on this deal of giving away billions.
The green and colored stuff in your wallet represents what you personally owe.
It is NOT what you have on hand, but what you owe.
K?
So, maybe they are just being really smart because they know something and they are trying to save america from a corporate takeover from the bank of england?
If they get rid of 40B (was that each?) and give it to a different country, it will no longer be on the books to be paid back by either them or america.
I can say no more here. The logic defies logic and I have never been able to follow the horse manure they throw at us when they explain it.
Anyway,
It may be both altruistic in that someone might benefit, and at the same time save their tushes because what they surely know is that when the music stops they do not want to be holding the cash.
Because in the end the individuals holding the money will be held personally responsible to return the money.
[When I learned this latest bit a few years ago, the debt was figured at $86,000 per person for every person.]
This sounds far fetched, but I was told that the contract reads that each of us is personally responsible, and is the contract behind our being sold into slavery, which seems to be a part of someone's plan.
It makes me think that the advice given in the book "abduction to the 9th planet" was wise.
In that book the author was urged to come back here and get a total global work stoppage to happen.
If everyone everywhere did not go to work but stayed home and helped with the neighbors and took care of their world, the whole house of cards would come falling down.
[I never in my life thought I would feel a reason to explain that.! yikes!]
Thank you, or, I apologize,
jeanna
Rimbaud
6th August 2010, 03:23
I see this as proof positive that we are entering a more giving generation. This will get the ball rolling for more corporate organizations to do their part in giving back to this planet and it's people. The change is in the air, and the billionaires are starting to feel it, it cannot be stopped. :flame:
in love & light :wub:
Rosie,
I'm absolutely in agreement with you on this issue...these guys didn't have to do this! they could have just carried on getting richer and richer...there are some who will say that it's never enough! but I personally see it that these guys who have such obscene wealth have an opportunity to spread it around a bit..Acts by which nullify the obscenity in my point of view. I wish everyone did this..not just the rich dudes. How many times have any of you walked past a beggar in the street and not giving them anything justifying in your own mind, that he or she will just buy booze or drugs or cigarettes, whereas that Pound coin,Euro,dollar or anything could actually save a life!
Friends..you see a tramp,beggar..invalid, blind, deaf or mute person...don't just leave them be or cross the street to avoid them..lend them your arm to cross the road..give them the change out of your pocket..Go and buy a pack of sandwiches and give it to some poor starving dude, give them your pack of cigarettes when he only asks for one smoke. Any and all of us must be measured by our charity, and if the rich dudes can do it then so can we all..in little increments and little ways.
Cheers..and be cheerful folks!..you can help in many ways..it doesn't take billions to make a difference!
Rimbaud
cloud9
6th August 2010, 03:37
jeannacav,
this is a dream I have very often but it's rather impossible. If everybody (or a good number of us) agreed not going to work for a week or a month, what would it happen? The problem is nobody wants to take the risk but to me it makes all the sense in the world.
What if nobody (and I mean at least 75% of population) decided not to buy gas for a whole week or month, what would they do?
What if nobody voted?
What if nobody bought any stuff other than food?
What if nobody did any bank transactions or used credit cards?
And so on...
If not even "awake" people as the ones in this forum (or so I think) are able or willing to send letters to congress or the White House or Senate or whatever/whomever demanding or at least asking about the issues we talk about all the time, what can we expect of the rest?
I still believe that if millions (what the heck, at least hundreds of thousands) of letters were send to the right place, even Fox News or CNN, letting those people know that we know and that we ask or demand to stop this or that or to do this or that, something would start moving.
Most people believe a simple letter is not much, but each letter would be a physical representation of a citizen's will in this country, a quiet and non-violent way...
Laws have been made or changed because of just hundreds or a few thousand of letters were sent to a Representative or Congressman.
I've said this several times already and each time there's no response....
If millions or hundred of thousands of letters were sent to the White House (or any government) demanding to stop chemtrails for example, or asking for disclosure... would they notice it?
Would other people notice it too?
The problem is TPTB and all rich people in the planet, they ACT upon their plans, we don't, we don't even have a plan.
They spend their valuable time making plans to get richer and more powerful, we are busy trying to survive.
But still, their plans wouldn't go anywhere without our consent because we are the most important piece in their plans.
We have the power but to make it so we have to agree and be united and we aren't.
We just make it so easy for them... with total indifference and silence.
Arpheus
6th August 2010, 03:43
Hmmmmm i dont like the smell of this whole thing,something isn't right i wish i knew what it was but there is something coming down the pipeline folks,and whatever it is its going to be big my gut tells me that so i will leave it at that!
Love and peace brothers and sisters :peace:
cloud9
6th August 2010, 03:49
I just wanted to add that sometimes when I see the threads and comments (which now are less and less) about getting prepared, going to the jungle, moving to other country, etc., it just makes me smile and consider how small we believe we are.
In one hand, we discuss here how wonderful beings of light we were created and we are but in the other hand we don't believe it.
We just want to run and hide.
I've never seen a real plan, not even suggestions... just go with your family, buy a lot of food and hide in the forest...
I'm not saying we should declare war or even protest in the streets, what I'm saying is... let's these people know we are still here and don't agree with their plans.
If we don't agree and don't participate, they have nothing.
onawah
6th August 2010, 04:19
Is there any credible journalism online anywhere about this?
bluestflame
6th August 2010, 05:36
sounds like what they call having an each way bet , or hedging thier bets
Ba-ba-Ra
6th August 2010, 06:11
Cloud9,
I agree with you when you say if we organized (by not working for a week, buying gas, etc) we could make a difference. Problem is, we can't seem to organize, and I believe it's partially because the PTB through the media keeps us separated. Don't know where you're from, but here in U.S. we've been fighting over gay rights, prayer in school and abortions - it seems like FOREVER. And while the main stream media keeps us stirred up by focusing our attention on those issues, the banksters and corporations, with the green light from our politicians, have been siphoning off our money, jobs, etc.
There is a young man, Peter Joseph, who has tried to organize us through his movement: www.thezeitgeistmovement.com From my perspective the movement seems to have merit and it's become worldwide. I invite you to log on and listen to the Movement Orientation Guide and see if it resonates for you. First it points out the faults of capitolism and then it presents an entirely new way of being which is a resource based society. Is it perfect - probably not, but it's a lot better than anything else we've had so far.
I understand your feelings about the dichotomy of how we talk about what great beings of light and love we are - and yet when we are faced with a crisis we seem to want to run and hide. Again, I feel that much of this is the fear-mongering of the PTB, which keeps us feeling helpless.
Perhaps if we continue to talk about this, through each other we will find a way. Much Love, Ba-ba-Ra
Chakra
6th August 2010, 09:11
Hi Wooki - totally agree with you on this one today's Vancouver Sun does as well.
One thing is my dear aunt used to say - 'you can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear' No matter how many pearls you sew on it is still a dead pigs ear. These men did not get where they are by being generous in a world were greed is a virtue - plain and simple. There is a reason why they are doing this - we are just not in on the secret. A couple things that comes to mind - one is they are planning on another embodiment.
There is in Hinduism a belief that if you make karma you come back, if you make dharma you come back. The first because you owe a debt, the second a debt is owed to you. You have to come back to have the good karma (dharma) given back to you.
But what ever it is i get a really sick feeling about this, I got that same sick feeling watching the towers go down - probably world population control. Vaccines are going to cost a few bucks to cover 7 billion or so people.
Vancouver Sun says it pretty plainly -
But what the deep-pocket set have accumulated in their lifetimes is not just a lot of money for good works, but tremendous influence in how the future unfolds. The adage that he (or she) who pays the piper calls the tune is still relevant....Money buys influence and there may be a lot more on the way.
Read more: http://www.vancouversun.com/business/Billionaires+urged+their+influence+beyond+grave/3366065/story.html#ixzz0voXBOXEN
Barron
6th August 2010, 09:41
Yes, as a few here have noted, any money given to the Gates, i.e. the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation (as with Warren Buffetts money) is gonna be spent on vaccines to both kill off and sterilise huge numbers of the world's population. Let's hope that most of these other Billionaires are not as cold, and unfeeling as the Gates and Buffett and Soros mob!
RedeZra
6th August 2010, 10:43
top pri is written in stones in Georgia
1st weed out the plenty and then maintain the rest
"My own doubts came when DDT was introduced. In Guyana, within two years, it had almost eliminated malaria. So my chief quarrel with DDT, in hindsight, is that it has greatly added to the population problem." - Alexander King - Cofounder of Club of Rome
why pretend there is no mosquito and malaria solution
SXQePTscn5c
Celine
6th August 2010, 10:49
Ok so they give up cash...
How is that gold pile coming along huh?
bluestflame
6th August 2010, 11:00
makes me wonder just how much of the stuff taken off the market with "extensive evidence" to prove its links to major health concerns , was actually effective at its created task so they had to fudge the research
dreamchaser
6th August 2010, 11:05
Ive heard a rumour that gold might reach $10000 an ounce by december. I guess that means there isnt as much being mined anymore. And the fact that some companies are buying gold back from the public only compounds this as far as I can see. So if new equipment isnt brought out that can mine gold for cheaper or mine gold from previously unreacable locations then I can only imagine the price of gold will continue to go up. heres to the end of consumerist capitalism! :D:peace::grouphug::party:
cloud9
6th August 2010, 14:02
Well, I read somewhere that gold is going to be the next "bubble"
Scott
6th August 2010, 14:10
Can I have my share in small bills please :)
Steven
6th August 2010, 14:20
...In one hand, we discuss here how wonderful beings of light we were created and we are but in the other hand we don't believe it...
I agree with you. If the same individual present how powerful our thoughts/emotions are to shape our realities, then present how doom we are and need drastical 'preparation' (I even see guns mentionned as a way to be prepared), the conclusion is that this same individual has not understood the principles of how consciousness works.
But, most of the time, this contradiction doesn't come from the same individuals. There is a need to know the 'manipulation plan' and 'controlling deeds', but solely to be aware of them, so we can focus on their opposite to create a paradigm shift. When one is simply over and over focusing on 'problems' to come or present without a clearer and dedicated focus on 'solutions', this person simply 'participate' in the realization of the 'problem' unconsciously. We are a group here on Avalon, and the ones aware of this mecanisms of life have to regularly step in to remind us about it. Like you just did.
Namaste, Steven
John Parslow
6th August 2010, 21:14
Forty Billionaires Give Away Half Of Wealth
My feeling is such: why don’t they give all of it away then they can really start to feel good about themselves …
‘Money is like muck, not good except it be spread.’ - FRANCIS BACON 1561-1626
Love and peace to all. JP :cool:
Rimbaud
7th August 2010, 00:13
My feeling is such: why don’t they give all of it away then they can really start to feel good about themselves …
‘Money is like muck, not good except it be spread.’ - FRANCIS BACON 1561-1626
Love and peace to all. JP :cool:
John,
If they gave all of their loot away, then it'd be up to you and me to pay for them to survive!..at least allow them a few quid for kebbabs and so on. I honestly don't know what money is these days as it all goes into my business anyway. I took a bit out of my bank to have a holiday in Italy last year..then I thought..why did I just have that dinner? I could have painted a room for what that cost!...How wonderful to be able to cast billions far and wide.
Rimbaud
jeannacav
7th August 2010, 02:45
.... There is a need to know the 'manipulation plan' and 'controlling deeds', but solely to be aware of them, so we can focus on their opposite to create a paradigm shift. When one is simply over and over focusing on 'problems' to come or present without a clearer and dedicated focus on 'solutions', this person simply 'participate' in the realization of the 'problem' unconsciously. We are a group here on Avalon, and the ones aware of this mechanisms of life have to regularly step in to remind us about it. Like you just did.
Namaste, Steven
I completely agree, steven.
thank you for restating it.
In this light of knowing the trouble and focusing on the opposite, I want to report a thought I had last night after my previous post.
If an enormous amount of fed res notes suddenly gets taken out of the country could it flood the market?... and CAUSE this predicted financial meltdown?
These are all people who know the 'plan' as well as it can be known.
These are people who are probably in on the plan, so I think this move must be seen as just one more attempt to create this reality that has been 'predicted'
So, knowing this,
I think we shouldn't use their money.
(I know, that is easier said than done.)
@rimbaud, yes give what you can when someone needs.
Better yet, just give.
OPEN SOURCE IT ALL. (so to speak)
Give generously from what you love.
Think it and share it.
thanks everybody,
jeanna
Snowbird
7th August 2010, 16:25
Does anyone have a list of "charities" that are going to get the money, i would like to see them before i make up my mind. It's not that i don't want to believe these Billionaires are doing something nice for the less fortunate, I just don't. What is the mandate of said "charities" and is it really in the best interest of the recipients. Who is in charge of said "charities" ok lets say I am a billionaire and my goals are inline with the global elite, I', going to give money to people that are caring out said goals. Now if I can covertly depopulate by sterilization and live virus vaccines under the guise of "charity" then my goals are being met and I look good doing it. I really hope I am wrong but when ever I hear of Billionaires doing something from the heart for the good of mankind I HAVE to ask more questions and try as hard as it might be to get to the bottom of it. I do not for one instant believe that they have the human races best interests at heart and dont forget TPTB are very patient, just because their goals will not be met in their lifetime does not make them anyless important to TPTB. I hope im wrong, I hope that a great shift is occuring and the billionaires are living in STO, I hope that all the other people striving to become billionaires follow the lead and realize money is not real and not worth stabbing fellow humans in the back for, I hope but i do not count on it.
Peaceful Journeys. Wookie
Wookie, if you go to post #13 on this thread, honeybee has posted the link to the givingpledge.org site. Buried in that site, is the About section that states that each of the donors pledge to give willingly and they give to the organizations that they choose to give to. This is not a pool of money that will be allocated by someone. Each person or couple decides to which organization they will give.
Shairia
7th August 2010, 17:31
This is just PR because they are frighted of the public making them targets because of the disparity in assets. If you read the entire article they are committing to doing this some time in the future or upon their death and it will be going to their pet charities. Bottom line, nothing will change.
Snowbird
7th August 2010, 18:26
As I read the letters from a few of the lesser-known billionaire contributors, I couldn't help but wonder...the very act of accumulating wealth requires concentrated effort and dedication. The majority of wealth in our society stems from investments that feed shareholder demands. This is money accumulated and not earned. This financial success is based upon the work performed by the labor of others. These others are those outside of the realm of the wealthy and elite.
When I was looking over the list of billionaires, I realized that years ago, I had worked for one of these via an organization that is owned by this one. And granted, this is only one example of millions, but to me it has left its mark. I worked for this organization while I was seriously looking for other work. This particular company was extremely demanding of its employees and the pay was so low, that one could barely survive. The only thing that I heard out of management, of which I was a part, was the necessity to achieve the bottom line for corporate at all costs. It was a ruthless environment.
This has always made me wonder how many millions of people have been used and abused by those who understand the formula for great wealth and remain on this path throughout regardless of how those employed by these are treated.
Remember, the wealthy elite do not earn money. They accumulate wealth off the backs of others. And also remember that our current system of finance is based upon fiat currency which, has absolutely NO value. Nada! We live on money printed without any backing. So, in absolute reality, the wealth of these billionaires is zero.
Rimbaud
7th August 2010, 23:29
As I read the letters from a few of the lesser-known billionaire contributors, I couldn't help but wonder...the very act of accumulating wealth requires concentrated effort and dedication. The majority of wealth in our society stems from investments that feed shareholder demands. This is money accumulated and not earned. This financial success is based upon the work performed by the labor of others. These others are those outside of the realm of the wealthy and elite.
When I was looking over the list of billionaires, I realized that years ago, I had worked for one of these via an organization that is owned by this one. And granted, this is only one example of millions, but to me it has left its mark. I worked for this organization while I was seriously looking for other work. This particular company was extremely demanding of its employees and the pay was so low, that one could barely survive. The only thing that I heard out of management, of which I was a part, was the necessity to achieve the bottom line for corporate at all costs. It was a ruthless environment.
This has always made me wonder how many millions of people have been used and abused by those who understand the formula for great wealth and remain on this path throughout regardless of how those employed by these are treated.
Remember, the wealthy elite do not earn money. They accumulate wealth off the backs of others. And also remember that our current system of finance is based upon fiat currency which, has absolutely NO value. Nada! We live on money printed without any backing. So, in absolute reality, the wealth of these billionaires is zero.
Snowbird,
Without wishing to sound patronising...you have just written a wonderfully erudite and significant comment here, which actually needs to be carved in stone!..please post it to Bill as I imagine that he'll love it
Rimbaud
Snowbird
8th August 2010, 16:49
Here in the U.S. (I cannot speak for other countries) the fact that our currency, the U.S. dollar, has no value because in the 1970s former President Nixon removed the last link between the U.S. dollar and its gold backing.
Now, would be a great time to switch over to a non-monetary system such as a resource-based economy. Our money is worthless anyway. And, any new monetary system that comes into being, either nationally or globally, will simply be more of the same.
It is time for real change.
dreamchaser
8th August 2010, 18:58
Does anyone know if the economy of the rest of the world has the same value as that of the US? I would certainly love to know!
Love and peace to all, Adrian. :love:
sjkted
9th August 2010, 03:55
I think this is just laughable. I have some ideas for these top earners if they want to be honest about being charitable:
- How about investing in biofuel? Or, setting up an electrical infrastructure so we can all run electric cars? Or, at least helping to remove the legal entanglements that prevent those of us who want to run biofuels from doing it legally?
- How about stopping the poisoning of the water system?
- How about stopping the poisoning of the food system?
- How about being honest about functional obsolescence and stop using it to get rich while selling out our environment and forcing us Westerners to buy slave-labor made cheap items from Asia?
This would fix a lot of problems. We could have clean, health food and water and free or dirt-cheap renewable electricity and none of it requires some great new technology. The only thing that has stopped it has been these folks who sit at the top of the pyramid who are supported by the base of the pyramid (us).
The money isn't real. It's just a representation of a value that is not fixed. It doesn't mean anything whether they have $1 billion, $100 trillion, or $1 million.
These people at the top are parasites. They create, support, and enforce our system of modern slavery. IMO, if they wanted to do something honorable, they could find some way to honorably wind down the system and allow people to create something new.
The only one I find somewhat honorable is Oprah, although I think much less of her with all the proselytizing she allowed Dr. Oz to do on the swine flu vaccines.
--sjkted
Wookie
9th August 2010, 04:40
Thanks for the heads up Snowbird, too bad though, Look everyone im putting the money in my left pocket intp my right pocket Isn't that WONDERFUL, look at all the good i'm doing, this is amazing. :jaw:
Peaceful Journeys. Wookie
Rimbaud
9th August 2010, 21:37
Charity isn't about announcements...It's about offering relief to those worse off than ourselves without fanfare and self advertisement... I hope that someone gets the benefit out of all these billions floating around everywhere however,
Rimbaud
PathWalker
9th August 2010, 22:28
Do not get fooled for a minute about the them vs us game.
It is we, a zero sum game.
The billionaires have their role, as well as you (the reader) have your own. Reading this message is an awakening indicator for the reader.
This mass charity is a sign of collective awakening call, to all involved.
Yet a real act of charity would be to release the enslaved. Declaring a massive debt amnesty.
This act just intensify the focus on the global wealth distribution. This is a great service.
AS for the funds, I am confident they are used to create more debt and enslavement.
And last, as for investment:
When we pass to the next life/incarnation, we take with us the relationships and emotions. Make sure you are rich with love and compassion. These are the real, real estate assets.
Bryn ap Gwilym
9th August 2010, 22:47
The Bilderberg club. The media has also made these corrupt billionaires a lot skinter than they really are. David Rockefeller only worth just over $1 billion is a laugh. Could this money find its way into the NWO religious cult aka zeitgeist that is being promoted by governments around the world?
And why are they not giving 99.9% of their wealth away?
Teakai
10th August 2010, 00:57
It seems obvious to me that if billionaires are giving away their money (especially one's who think eugenics is a great idea) then I suspect it's because there's large profits to be made from doing so and that it fulfills some type of nasty new world agenda.
Excuse me if I'm repeating someone else - I didn't read all the comments before posting.
Rimbaud
10th August 2010, 01:55
The Bilderberg club. The media has also made these corrupt billionaires a lot skinter than they really are. David Rockefeller only worth just over $1 billion is a laugh. Could this money find its way into the NWO religious cult aka zeitgeist that is being promoted by governments around the world?
And why are they not giving 99.9% of their wealth away?
Skinter?..new word surely?
Rimbaud
Bryn ap Gwilym
20th August 2010, 10:35
Skinter?..new word surely?
Rimbaud
Nope, Skinter is used often in Briton.
Rimbaud
20th August 2010, 21:13
Nope, Skinter is used often in Briton.
Ok take your word for it lol!..I was using my rejection of the word in a kind of "Scrabble" kind of way...does it exist?..yes it does..so I bow towards your word craft Bryn. As for the Bilderbergs and Rothschilds..I still need some convincing as I haven't ever seen any real evidence yet. I refuse to be won over by mere rumour and will wait to see what happens in the future. This is not prevarication..it's merely waiting for evidence. I refuse to condemn or support anyone or anything without simple evedence.
I maintain this view with reason...I have seen the "craft" that many of us have...I'm not convinced that our Governments want us dead..just yet!
Rimbaud
shadowstalker
20th September 2010, 18:28
I don't believe that any of the monies given by the Billionaires will enter into helping the little ppl.
Yes there is something changing here, but i doubt for the good of the people or the planet,
Really Bill Gates?(Eugenics?)
If these folks are truly good folks, they will not request tax deductions for there charity.
But then again if you already own something then where is the loss,right?
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