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Tony
3rd June 2012, 15:41
Trauma in the Subtle Information Body 2.

Memories are stored in our subtle information body, where feelings reside. When an external source stimulates the subtle body, a reaction occurs in the mind. We then react - or hold our peace.

Our physical bodies are electrical chemical bio-logical machines. If the mind identifies with the body, any imbalance in the body will cause an imbalance in the mind.

If this body is surrounded by disturbing information of hopes and fears, together with gradual changes in its chemical and electrical frequencies, this will produce an unbalanced, unhealthy human being. This being will be easy to control, believing and reacting to anything!

Is this science fiction, or science fact?!

When would be the best time to start this? In childhood! Creating traumas and fears when young paves the way for creating traumas and fears later in life. All that has to be done is to press the right button, or a combination of buttons, and off we go! The cause can never be traced, keeping people of all levels in ignorance.

How to counteract this?
The answer is very very simple, and goes very very deep...a pure heart!

I've looked and looked at this to find the simplest solution, and the answer is a Pure Heart. This is interesting because the Heart is connected to our feelings! In the past, I would go on about Pure Essence - this is still the ultimate goal, but it can be realised through a Pure Heart!

Pure Essence is elusive, and has either to be pointed out, or realised through much insight practice. Pure Heart is the expression of Pure Essence.

The more we look, the deeper we go.
The deeper we go, the more interesting it gets - and so the more we look!
The more sensitive we get, the more we notice any movement away from Pure Essence.
This movement away can be triggered by a distracting reaction to an external source (an emotion)
or....by the radiance of Love.
Pure Heart.

Pure Essence just looks in on itself. Its expression is Love. Essence Love = A Pure Heart. Then the scariest thing is losing this Pure Heart...so one has to be mindful at every moment.

Essence Love does not identify with the body or mind, but merely acknowledges reactions in the Subtle Information Body, therefore loosening the grip of karma.

Although Essence is said to be empty-awareness (sometimes referred to as Zero), we are much more than that...!


Hello again!
Tony

Sebastion
3rd June 2012, 15:46
It is super great to see you back Tony!

Tony
3rd June 2012, 15:46
Finding a Pure Heart. Fear of losing it.

A Pure Heart is an expression of our Essence.
Sometimes these may be felt as a one and the same thing, but breaking this down reveals finer levels, because it also has to recognise and know itself. Through the understanding of the Heart, we can find our way back to Essence. When this is realised the Heart is merely a radiance of Essence.
On closer inspection of subtler feelings, we may discover that our true Heart and Essence is beyond words.

One of the problems in searching for our true self is getting past the ideas and feelings we have about ourselves. Somewhere in there is a Pure Heart! Another obstacle is knowing the difference between 'my' feelings and how something affects me, and feelings about a situation and how that affects others. One of these is biased, or impure! We need to be aware of becoming sentimental, which is easy slip into: this has much to do with the way we react to the world around us, who themselves want a romantic ending.

Sometimes we are not always clear about our use of words, and what we mean by them: expressions such as “resonating” are vague and need clarification. When we “resonate” with our feelings, we may just be identifying with an idea that is expedient - meaning it could be a convenient, feel-good solution. This has its place, but is only a temporary fix.

So maybe feelings are mistaken for our Pure Heart...but they can show us the way. Feelings are something felt within our body, heart or mind, and sorting this out can be a mine field - especially when feelings explode! If our feelings explode then we know we are still volatile, and not safe...or sane!

What is this Heart? We may say things such as, “I'm coming from my heart” when in fact we may still be coming from somewhere in our head, or mind. If we were truly coming from our heart, that would indicate a complete and open Love. When coming from the Heart, there is no sense of “I”: there is Love that is so open that everything is reflected in Love, and nothing else.

Now, that's quite a pure state, and not one of every-day-ness!

Nothing and nobody could ever upset this completely Pure Heart, because it comes from a knowing Pure Essence. Being upset is felt in our subtle (information) body, causing some sort of tension to appear in the physical body. This in turn is interpreted in the head/mind. To be clear about this, we have to know the difference between the Heart and the Head.

The Head – or Mind - can use thoughts to describe what is felt, and noted by the Essence.
Its expression is the Heart, for the well being of others.

What is felt is more subtle than thoughts, but it is still in the realm of concepts. A concept does not have to have words or thoughts. Concepts are fixations. We can pick up in our subtle feelings whether a person is trustworthy or not, but this can be hijacked by our coarse feelings. These then activate the mind to analyse, judge and translate...and react! This is our usual way of expressing ourselves in habitual patterning, and is not so pure, is it?

So, our feelings are easily mistaken for Heart: the Pure Heart is not so easy to connect with as a link to our Essence hasn't yet been established. Repeating words isn't realisation: there has to be genuine experience.
The Pure Heart isn't so familiar to us - we are usually stuck in our feelings. We have a natural inkling that this Pure Heart is there! We just have to refine what is felt: remember that Pure Love does not judge. Judgment takes place in the mind or consciousness.

This Pure Heart is something we all wish we had, and probably think we are achieving, but let's be honest, we still get upset! Perhaps there is some work to be done? We all assume we are on the side of a righteous heart, but if that were true, then we would be in a state of constant Inner Peace, Inner Happiness and Inner Confidence. Even if we were attacked, this inner state would not change. In fact, there is much to be learnt when we feel attacked!

Maybe we have to recognise what the Heart is. As suggested before, it has to be connected to our true Essence. It has to be connected to a Love that is beyond ordinary, daily overuse of this word. It must know itself and be Pure. You have to admit, that is quite a high state!

This must beg the question, “Where are we now?” The answer must be... “Not quite there yet.”
So if we are “Not quite there yet,” we must be in some sort of confusion...collectively!

The only way we can examine if this heart is pure, is to see it being put under some sort of stress, or tested. All truth has to be tested to see if it's genuine, like testing for gold...all we have to do is observe our reactions!

Are we constant or do we change?
If we are showing a change, and if we use intelligent kindness to ourselves, we learn something. “Ah, this love is not quite pure yet!”
In being kind to ourselves at this moment, a subtle adjustment takes place. Of course it is uncomfortable to realise that one is still wobbly, but that is just progress.
If we were very intelligent, we would also appreciate that which stirred us to review our Pure Heart, but that would take a lot of love and patience as we would have to be able to deal with much ridicule. That is also when we can become our own teacher...

We hear a lot about a 'higher self beyond thoughts', but what is that? Isn't it that Pure Essence/Love we have just been talking about? What could be beyond Pure Love? As humans, we long for this Love, because it is our true nature already, but it is hidden. What is hiding it?

Merely saying, “Go beyond thoughts!” is only a mechanical process, and it could leave one 'high and dry'; this is a finer state than the normal reactionary way of life, but it is lacking something... juice! This moisture is Love, and it is soft and pliable.

The obstacle to revealing our true nature is not just 'thoughts'. It is a belief in a separate identity, being “My View.”

Even though we do not have Pure Love yet, we still have to function, or muddle along, but we do not have to be fixed there. If we continue to think our view is correct and satisfying, there will be no need to change: we will continue in our own sweet way, for a very long time. If, however we are aware that this Love could be better, and that there is subtle suffering, then we have a goal. This is our guiding-light and teacher.

Outer teachers are only there to remind us of this fact: they cannot do it for us. Saying, “I do not need a teacher!” is merely revealing a confused mind (although this is understandable, in this day and age). Saying “I do not need a teacher” also separates and cuts us off from all possibilities. In fact, we would be cutting off all of life, as we can learn from everything and everyone, when we observe the reactions in our mind.

No one has ever found their way back on their own. We have never had an original idea in our minds! There is always a continuity of help available to us. And we in turn will also take our place in helping others. Would you do anything less?

Of course there are also those who try to hinder our progress.

The very acknowledgement that 'this could be better' is what draws us in the direction of understanding of our true nature. It is our path.
We feel that this Pure Heart already exists...perhaps bit murky...but we know it's there!
I don't know if this will help, but consider drawing a circle: in the physical, however we do this, it can never be perfect. At the edges there will be lumps and bumps...but it 'does', it serves a purpose.

It is only in the realms of pure mathematics that it is perfect. Nothing in the physical can ever be perfect, as it is made of causes and conditions, and therefore impermanent in nature.

This brings us to why we all disagree.
If we were all in Pure Love or Essence Love, there would never be any disagreement!
As we are not, we must disagree because of our confusion.
Confusion is very, very uncomfortable, so we will want to find the nearest solution to alleviate this suffering - like a drowning person who will grasp at anything to stay afloat. This is why we have to be discerning or discriminating. As said before, some solutions are expedient, a temporary fix, but then we have to move on.

The dilemma.
When we see someone clutching to something that will not keep them afloat, what do we do?
We might ask, how do we know they are drowning? The answer is, by the way they are waving their arms around, shouting and over reacting! They lack pure love, because they are still trying to save this temporary view of themselves, which held together by their feelings!

We still have the dilemma: do we do anything?
Our natural instinct is to put a hand out to help, but that hand may not be accepted. Here we have to be sensitive to the depth of confusion: it is not easy to judge the right moment and the right place. But overriding this is the right intention. Maybe we have to try again later.

Other dilemmas...
Do they trust your helping hand?
And yet another - what do you do when all that splashing around, is attracting the demons?!
All of these have to be taken into consideration. The most difficult part is trusting our inner feelings...for whose benefit are our actions?

The ultimate dilemma.
Once this pure love is found, our greatest fear is...losing it.
Even to the demons! They too have to be included, respected...and loved...within this Pure Heart.

At first, love takes discipline, but when it is genuine, no discipline is necessary. It is just there.
This will be tested again and again and again! We can easily see whether we have love or lack of love. If we cannot be with negative people, this means we cannot quite cope with them at this moment: there is a lack of confidence in our ability.

The greatest fear for a Pure Heart, is losing it, even for a moment.
A Pure Heart could be said to have 'One Taste'.
This means that it is beyond good and bad: everything is of one taste.
But we still have to deal with the relative world, in a skilful way!

childs hood end
3rd June 2012, 15:52
welcome back my good man....

Ivanhoe
3rd June 2012, 16:10
Thanks Pie.
A great way to start my Sunday morning,.... reading a inspiring post from a gentle soul.
What a great gift you've given me today.
Thank you, and welcome back, good to see you again!

Fred Steeves
3rd June 2012, 16:22
Sometimes we are not always clear about our use of words, and what we mean by them: expressions such as “resonating” are vague and need clarification. When we “resonate” with our feelings, we may just be identifying with an idea that is expedient - meaning it could be a convenient, feel-good solution. This has its place, but is only a temporary fix.


Tony, you old dog, good to see you!!!:) I know exactly what you mean concerning the word "resonate", I've greatly curtailed my use of it for just that reason. Having said that, I still strongly resonate with the word resonate.(LOL) Seeing you so elequently bring this up caused me to actually consciously intellectualize my refinement of the term's meaning for me.

When I "resonate" with something, it may be something that is very touchy, feely, mushy, let's have a group hug and cry. Or, it may be with the sudden "knowing" that what I must now do, stands every chance of getting me killed. That's how I know I can trust it, it's not for what's expedient in the moment for me, it's what's for the highest purpose of the situation. Maybe Spock said it best:
Xa6c3OTr6yA

Cheers Mate,
Fred

spiritguide
3rd June 2012, 16:29
Welcome back! Your sharing was missed.

seigiarchon
4th June 2012, 05:32
Sometimes we are not always clear about our use of words, and what we mean by them: expressions such as “resonating” are vague and need clarification. When we “resonate” with our feelings, we may just be identifying with an idea that is expedient - meaning it could be a convenient, feel-good solution. This has its place, but is only a temporary fix.


Tony, you old dog, good to see you!!!:) I know exactly what you mean concerning the word "resonate", I've greatly curtailed my use of it for just that reason. Having said that, I still strongly resonate with the word resonate.(LOL) Seeing you so elequently bring this up caused me to actually consciously intellectualize my refinement of the term's meaning for me.

When I "resonate" with something, it may be something that is very touchy, feely, mushy, let's have a group hug and cry. Or, it may be with the sudden "knowing" that what I must now do, stands every chance of getting me killed. That's how I know I can trust it, it's not for what's expedient in the moment for me, it's what's for the highest purpose of the situation. Maybe Spock said it best:
Xa6c3OTr6yA

Cheers Mate,
Fred

question is.. do the masses truly know what they need?

or are their needs determined by their animal egos?

Tony
4th June 2012, 07:13
Hello Seigiarchon,

Your question is a important subject!
The universe must be full of sentient beings not knowing their true nature. Our minds are easily distracted, but somewhere at the back of it we know something....!? Some of us are very very confused, some very confused and some just confused. So we are all confused, and we get used to arguing about our confusion. The problem arises when one gets an inkling that one is not so confused. Then that phrase, "the needs of the many..." comes to mind. And a sense of responsibility arises, and one thinks,.."I'm not ready for this!"

Suddenly the masses seem even more crazy than before. Even though one is still confused, does one separate oneself from the madness, or join it? Recognising one's confusion has now become one's teacher...and the crazies have also become one's teacher! One is bound to feel a bit wobbly at times. This brings us back to a good heart.

Tony

markpierre
4th June 2012, 09:41
Although Essence is said to be empty-awareness (sometimes referred to as Zero), we are much more than that...!
Hello again!
Tony

Tony Tony Tony Tony Tony.

What did you do, go away and become a doctor?

'Resonate' to me means....oh brother.

Tony
4th June 2012, 10:12
Words and meanings are a problem. Orwell's 1984 and double-speak illustrates that.

Hello Mark,
Nice to chat again. Using the same words on different site reveals a lot.
I've been doing some experimenting to see what people know.
One lot called me a 'vampire' another lot a 'sugar b*ll Sh*tter'....
... one has to be patient with the patients!

markpierre
4th June 2012, 10:34
Words and meanings are a problem. Orwell's 1984 and double-speak illustrates that.

Hello Mark,
Nice to chat again. Using the same words on different site reveals a lot.
I've been doing some experimenting to see what people know.
One lot called me a 'vampire' another lot a 'sugar b*ll Sh*tter'....
... one has to be patient with the patients!

Vampire. Out taking soundings eh? Still too shallow, or is there hope?

Fred Steeves
4th June 2012, 10:36
"Vampire" and "sugar bullsh*tter"? Dayum Tony, nice to come home and put your feet up then huh? I'll pour you a nice hot cup of tea, and you can tell us what they taught you. This should be good...

Cheers Mate,
Fred

Hermite
4th June 2012, 10:42
Tony! Delighted to see your words here once again. Thank you for the gift of your time.

Seikou-Kishi
4th June 2012, 10:47
Words and meanings are a problem. Orwell's 1984 and double-speak illustrates that.

Hello Mark,
Nice to chat again. Using the same words on different site reveals a lot.
I've been doing some experimenting to see what people know.
One lot called me a 'vampire' another lot a 'sugar b*ll Sh*tter'....
... one has to be patient with the patients!

At least if you could sh*t sugar bulls, you'd make a lot of money selling confectionary at agricultural fairs :D

Somebody once said all is well, and all is well :-)

Calz
4th June 2012, 10:55
Pie??? :shocked:


Out like a lion and in like a lamb.


http://www.firmfoundationchurch.org/images/Lion%20and%20Lamb.jpg


Least you could have done was say "Booo"


http://asmiphilosophy.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/ghost_boo.gif

mosquito
4th June 2012, 10:56
Welcome back brother Tony !!

With yet anothe timely reminder to focus on the heart. Thank you

Amazing what bizarre insults some people can come up with isn't it ?

9eagle9
4th June 2012, 13:36
Hi Tony, nice to have you back.

So..who you going to piss off today? :eek:

CdnSirian
4th June 2012, 14:48
Welcome back Pie. You express so well what I have inklings of. I've already muddled a bit better today and de-confused a nano, with your kind posts.

Sidney
4th June 2012, 15:14
I thought I smelled Pie..haha

great topic Tony and perfect timing, as it does seem the world is going mad right now. Can you comment on what to do with stored negative energies?? There seems to be a build up of it in my immediate surroundings. (and my not so immediate surroundings). Could it be that there is a deliberate bombardment of negatvie energy upon us?

Welcome Back!!!

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Fred Steeves
4th June 2012, 15:31
Can you comment on what to do with stored negative energies?? There seems to be a build up of it in my immediate surroundings. (and my not so immediate surroundings). Could it be that there is a deliberate bombardment of negatvie energy upon us?


Hoping Tony won't mind if I toss in my one word response to your second question Star: "YES".

Cheers,
Fred

Tony
4th June 2012, 16:57
Negativity.

We can look at this in many ways, it could be what is called 'The Hundred Monkey' syndrome.
One member gets a good idea, and it filters through the group. If that is so, it must work with a bad idea!

There is also group dynamics, if the proportion changes to being over-negative, or over-positive
this can produce false hopes and fears. Creating a subtle unrealistic environment, which gives no feeling of support.

If the system we believe in or method we follow is not complete, we feel vulnerable,
so we feel we have to constantly defend ourselves, and do a little attacking.

Look to see if you are unhappy or indifferent, if neither, then you are happy.
If still unhappy, it is either something in ones own expectations or we are picking up something
from the environment around us. These forums don't always help, do they?

There is the possibility of being physically run down, and we then need to recharge our batteries.
Good food, sun light, meditation, a chat with sympathetic chums are all good.

Have we become too stimulated?

Speed and excitement have become so normal that we forget that our cleverness is never ending and exhausting.
Look how often we come to this keyboard and screen, to look for...what? This has just become an addiction.
All too soon death will come, it could come at any moment... that last breath!

After we were born very few of us, can ever remember what we did, thought, knew,
cared about in our previous lives. We arrived with a bit of attitude, desire for comfort and
aversion to being told what to do. Nothing else!

So that begs the question, “What on earth are we holding onto, now?” Could the point of life be,
not so much a stimulating entertainment, but something useful we can take with us after death,
for the next life? If so, getting rat-arsed (drunk), trying to get one over one others or climbing up
the social ladder seems a bit of a waste of time, doesn't it?

This doesn't mean we cannot have fun, the fun can be expressed in a different way, a simpler way,
less over excitement. So how are we going to achieve this and not get bored?

Well, intelligence will help and discernment. Not following the usual patterning, and looking more closely will also help.
The more we look the deeper we go, the more interesting it gets...so the deeper we go!
Once we experience our still inner core, any movement away, will be clearly seen.
At that level everything is teaching something, about ourselves and reactions.

I cannot begin to explain how exciting this all is, it boarders on cool boredom!
Another step and we are in madness. It's a fine line we tread every moment.


All the best,
Tony

9eagle9
4th June 2012, 17:26
People are subjected to too much information that clutters the mind, expansion of consciousness the wrong way. Just holding information that is essentially useless and meant to keep the mind and its accompanying emotional body tied up and held hostage. Then they consciously go seeking more information to fix what they feel is wrong.

Much of this information is aimed at personal lack. The very weak like information that tells them that something stronger than themselves will be along shortly to fix their situation. Then more information is piled on to prop up what is really only an idea that is masking a wound. A case of self judgement and even self loathing that is really quite energetically depleting to those who have to observe it. It' a judgement that expands outwards to include others. Why so many people have distaste for popular gurus who proclaim 'something will be along shortly to save you/us." A subtle clever way of undermining one's own strength. For those who know it for what it is, they refuse the judgement. That does not belong to me, that is not what I am.

The strong are only strong because they know there nothing stronger than themselves so the reality is ....there is nothing out there stronger than themselves to fix them. So much of this external information becomes useless. Interesting...but still useless.

Sidney
4th June 2012, 22:00
What about energy that is absorbed via toxic people in the environment.

Tony
5th June 2012, 06:37
What about energy that is absorbed via toxic people in the environment. I believe that someone in my home, is inflicting me (non deliberately, i think) with negative energy. I feel as if it gets stuck to me, and I am carrying it with me, and i can't wash it off so to speak. I have prayed, meditated saged myself, and its either a repeated "spiritual contamination" or one I cannot get rid of. Any suggestions??

hello Star,
Through practice we become more sensitive to what is going on in our minds. We also pick up some what's is other's minds as well!
Funny you should say, "wash it off" that was the exact advice a lama told us students after being with negative people.."take a shower". Though I'm not sure if it works, but worth a try.

Basically you are noticing more. Just do not react. This is all about inner work, not outer success. Stay centred give the situation space by not reacting. This space will allow the other to see what they are doing. Just listen to them, they need the love, though they may not accept it. Sometimes we have to quietly remove ourselves from the situation. Sometimes a quick chat, smile, and get on with what you have to do. Sometimes it is not possible to communicate, the views are too different.

Living in close proximity does make life intense. Nobody wants to be negative, they just cannot help it. It has become a pattern of behaviour. There is much more to this, but have to go.

Kind regards...and love,
Tony

markpierre
5th June 2012, 10:31
Negativity.

We can look at this in many ways, it could be what is called 'The Hundred Monkey' syndrome.
One member gets a good idea, and it filters through the group. If that is so, it must work with a bad idea!




That said the whole thing for me.

Thanks for keeping it in a realm where even a monkey can take responsibility.

9eagle9
5th June 2012, 12:30
Stop absorbing it. Or find out which part of you is affected by it. An un-addressed wound that is agitated by it. Find, cure it and you will see the seeming 'external' negativity goes away. You are more correct in that is a repeated contamination but it doesn't have anything to do with the spiritual.


What about energy that is absorbed via toxic people in the environment. I believe that someone in my home, is inflicting me (non deliberately, i think) with negative energy. I feel as if it gets stuck to me, and I am carrying it with me, and i can't wash it off so to speak. I have prayed, meditated saged myself, and its either a repeated "spiritual contamination" or one I cannot get rid of. Any suggestions??

Sidney
5th June 2012, 15:09
Thank you to Pieneal and 9eagle9 for the good advice. I guess I will be taking alot more showers. lol

Tony
5th June 2012, 15:11
Thank you to Pieneal and 9eagle9 for the good advice. I guess I will be taking alot more showers. lol

Just in case you miss the new post...

Negative environments.

This is a huge subject, and entails the whole of life, one's beliefs, one's view.
We do live in a negative environment...of our minds! Saying 'we' means all of us: this is quite a shock when you consider it! This planet is lovely, but it is inhabited by sentient beings who cling to ideas about themselves and everyone else.
This clinging is a not-knowing of our true nature, and could be called negative.
Resting in our true nature would then be seen as positive, but we do not notice this nature and so we live in a negative world! Oh, we can put on a brave face, and make things seem better, but these are only temporary fixes.

It's starting to sound scary, isn't it? Well, it needn't!

First we have to look at a touchy area...our beliefs. Now comes a really touchy area: what we believe may only be a partial system that is incomplete. Everyone's journey is different, but step by step we progress...get stuck...get emotional...resolve...progress...

So we go through stages of dissatisfaction...satisfaction...dissatisfaction...rough...smooth...

The individual temperament will dictate how fast we go through all this. If we adopt a system that is incomplete, there will be gaps in how to deal with everything.

If we say, “Well I'm self taught,” that is not altogether true, unless we have been in an isolated cave all our lives without contact with anyone! If we have senses and a mind, and have had contact with others, we will have been influenced. But this information may be incomplete, and as a result of that, any trauma that occurs will overtake us.

At this point, we come back to the subtle information body where feelings are stored. We can start to see how our lives are controlled by mistaken information – and this is maintained by everyone else around us. This situation is not helped by the corporate world!

We are bombarded by advertising about living the perfect dream, so naturally we will feel dissatisfied because life is just not like that. But somewhere, deep inside our minds, we think it should be. As a result of this constant disappointment, many people become more negative than normal. If one listens to (or reads) some people's patterning, it will all sound negative: they can't help having a go!

The type of negativity that arise most commonly in me is perceiving a pointlessness in everything.
I go...“What's the point?!”
This brings us back to the value of having a complete system. It's not so much dealing with other people's emotions - it's dealing with our own emotions and reactions: all systems offer plenty of antidotes to counteract our negative emotions (the only way to counteract someone else's negative emotions is to give them space, by not reacting).

The simplest answer IS love - un-conditional love. Now that is a tall order!
We begin with love for ourselves.
Not with criticism or blame or guilt or fear of our reactions. None of these are us.
Most of the time we fear our own reactions, and so we set up a barrier of defence around ourselves. We expect ourselves to be better. We want to be better at all sorts of things, but life is pretty short, so it is easy to feel a failure isn't it?

Much of the information in our heads is put there, and has nothing to do with our true being. We have to discern what is useful and what is not. The point of meditation is to separate ourself from those thoughts. Once that has been done, we are in awareness. This awareness looks in o itself and finds...nothing - pure awareness. It is empty and has a knowing quality...Pure Essence.

OK, so now we come to the good bit!
Pure Essence is a dry awareness.
Its expression is the juice...Pure Love. A Pure Heart!

Because we are not enlightened, emotions will still arise, even though we have had a glimpse of this Essence Love. This is because our awareness of essence has dimmed or gone unnoticed, and we are attached again to the feeling of “I”, and our mental image of self.

Once we have this glimpse of Essence, any emotion that arises is seem as a temporary event of an “I” identification and has absolutely no reality. The emotions are now the teacher, showing us that we have moved away from Essence.

Knowing Essence is very simple, and will be recognised through practice or through having it pointed out at the right time. It is slightly different from
just being aware. It doesn't matter if one isn't totally certain about Essence. It is just there.
Without it, we would not exist, but equally, we cannot say it exists.
I once saw a child fall over, and my impulse was to rush over to help...that was Essence Love.
However, the thought came in, “It's not my child, so I shouldn't interfere,” and I noticed that everyone else reacted the same way. I'd moved from essence to “I”.

That is the negative environment.

Even though there maybe things going on in the world, these are merely temporary external events. We shouldn't believe everything we read on forums like this!
We have to be aware of fear mongering and false promises of hope with the calvary coming.
These are subjects for comics...and they are both causes and products of a negative environment.

This negative environment is our teacher, if we can see it as such. It never truly existed in the first place: it may feel real, but it is not true.
If we can't see it as our teacher, we can just be kind to ourself, as this all takes time to digest.

Genuine Love is like a virus...it's catching!

One very last thing, we all want to make things better, to right all wrongs, to have peace in the family. It's not necessarily going to happen, in this incarnation. People need time and space, and there is a lot of time and a lot of space. In their own time they will come round to where they want to go, all we can do is not leave obstacles in the way.


Kind regards,
Tony

Tony
5th June 2012, 15:20
Any suffering we encounter, adds to our library of experiences.
This is the most helpful tool when empathising with others.
It may even ease their pain!

Fred Steeves
5th June 2012, 16:07
Heya Tony, I think it's amazing how similarly we're seeing many things these days, we just speak a slightly different language. This is how I express what I think you're saying here. You know who my biggest "teacher" as of late has been? Conflict. And do you know what I've discovered about this ever aggravating conflict? It comes directly from me, yours truly.

I expand the ancient Hermetic principle "as above, so below, as below so above", with "as within, so without, as without, so within". Once I decided that I'm personally responsible for any and all conflict in my life, and owned that humbling realization, I've been noticing that there just doesn't seem to be that much conflict going on any more. Sure it still flares up from time to time, but now that I've realized to just hold up that old mirror again as to who to blame, it doesn't last too long. It's kind of like: "Well, there you go again dumbass".:)

Cheers,
Fred

crosby
5th June 2012, 22:05
What about energy that is absorbed via toxic people in the environment. I believe that someone in my home, is inflicting me (non deliberately, i think) with negative energy. I feel as if it gets stuck to me, and I am carrying it with me, and i can't wash it off so to speak. I have prayed, meditated saged myself, and its either a repeated "spiritual contamination" or one I cannot get rid of. Any suggestions??


starchild111, i have seen and felt this toxicity a lot lately. there seems to be something in the air that some people turn into a noxious fume that they try to surround others with. when i feel this hatefulness, i do my best to get out of where i am to be rid of the terrible feelings that hit me and the tiredness that i feel after being exposed. there are some people that do thrive off of their toxic behavior patterns. and when they ask me why i will not join them for dinner or drinks, i flat out tell them that i can't stand their negativity. i wish my anti-negativity walls were so solid that their toxicity would not affect me. i am still working on that.......

WELCOME BACK PIE!!!!!!! MISSED YOU.
warmest regards, corson

mahalall
6th June 2012, 00:53
lovely,
returning to the heart of the matter,
for real change happens in the heart !

www.dalailama2012uk.org

thanks pie, for keeping us in touch,

Sidney
6th June 2012, 03:49
What about energy that is absorbed via toxic people in the environment. I believe that someone in my home, is inflicting me (non deliberately, i think) with negative energy. I feel as if it gets stuck to me, and I am carrying it with me, and i can't wash it off so to speak. I have prayed, meditated saged myself, and its either a repeated "spiritual contamination" or one I cannot get rid of. Any suggestions??


starchild111, i have seen and felt this toxicity a lot lately. there seems to be something in the air that some people turn into a noxious fume that they try to surround others with. when i feel this hatefulness, i do my best to get out of where i am to be rid of the terrible feelings that hit me and the tiredness that i feel after being exposed. there are some people that do thrive off of their toxic behavior patterns. and when they ask me why i will not join them for dinner or drinks, i flat out tell them that i can't stand their negativity. i wish my anti-negativity walls were so solid that their toxicity would not affect me. i am still working on that.......

WELCOME BACK PIE!!!!!!! MISSED YOU.
warmest regards, corson

Hi Corson, I love the "noxious fume" analogy. You hit the nail on the head. I too wish my wall was solid enough to keep out the fumes, its just not. And I agree with the getting out of the environment thing. It does seem most of the time when I leave the house, I feel better. I happen to be a home body, and always feel like your home should be your sanctuary, but as of lately that is not the case.

spiritguide
8th June 2012, 21:46
To protect your environment and person you can use crystal strategically placed around the perimeter of your house/property and they will create a crystal bubble around the perimeter. Do this by obtaining crystals that feel positive when you hold them. Cleanse them by soaking them in the sun. Place them on the perimeter of the area you want positive with your intention of repelling negativity. They will create a bubble of positivity and keep negativity out by vibrating at a higher frequency. Thank them daily they will appreciate it. It works the same for rooms also. Crystals are sentient. E-Bay is a good economical source to acquire them.

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