Are you a sports fan?

[RMorgan]

Hey folks,

Is any of you a sports fan? I mean, are you a fan of a specific team?

Well, I´m a Brazilian and, well, most of you might think all Brazilians love soccer, but I don´t.

I really tried, but I can´t understand the reason behind being any team´s fan.

What´s the deal with teams? They wear different colors, different emblems but in the end, they are pretty much the same, aren´t them?

Even the players are there just for the money. They don´t care at all about the team itself; they just care about their bank accounts.

So, what´s the deal about cheering for team? Do they represent different causes or ideals, that are worth fighting for? Well, I don´t think so...

Personally, I think it´s pure brainwashing. It goes from father to son, eternally.

You know, I´m tired to see people fighting each other for no reason. Here in Brazil, it isn´t even safe to get close to a stadium during a game. People fight each other, sometimes even kill each other in the name of what?

You barely can see the team´s name on the shirts anymore! All you can see is the logo of the corporations who sponsors them!

Besides, I can´t stand the way the media use sports to divert the focus from much more important news. If you watch the news here, they show one political scandal after another and, in the end, the sports...always the sports, in order to fade the impact and repercussion of the first news.

Furthermore, there are serious evidences pointing that most sports that move large amounts of money are rigged.

It´s the same old strategy of panis et circenses, bread and circus...

Sorry if this thread sounds like an outflow, but sometimes it´s hard to live in a country where so many people are blinded by such silly stuff.

You know, I can´t understand why people spend their energy watching, discussing and even fighting for sports, when there are so many more important things to fight for nowadays.

So, what do you think about this subject?

I´m really interested to read your points of view, either if you are a sports fan or not.

Cheers,

Raf.

[shadowstalker]

NO I am not into sports, To many folks fight over who's team is the best, in my eyes who cares at the end of the day. these ppl don't pay my bills nor have they raised my children, nor do they call me friend or family..

[WhiteFeather]

The Subliminal interference waves eminating from the Tell Lie Vision hurts the gray matter in the noggin. Cannot watch the tube anymore especially since the inception of HD. Yes TV is quite disturbing to say the least. I think most Avalonians would agree with me on this matter. Read This Below.


This is an extremely timely and important essay. It overviews a secret Pentagon psychotronics technology known as Silent Sound Spread Spectrum (SSSS) that has been fully operational since the early 1990s. I first found out about the use of this technology from Al Bielek in a 1992 video he made with Vladimir Terziski. This technology was used against battle-hardened Iraqi troops fortified in deep underground bunkers in Kuwait and Iraq in the first Gulf War in January of 1991.

The physical, emotional, and psychological effects of this technology were so severe that hundreds of thousands of Iraqi troops surrended en masse without firing even a single shot against US led coalition forces. The numbers reported in the news were staggering: 75,000 and then another 125,000 (or more) Iraqi troops would come out of their deep desert bunkers waving white flags and falling to their knees before approaching US troops and literally kiss their captor’s boots or hands if given the opportunity.

Why would eight year veterans of Middle Eastern warfare (with Iran 1980-1988) behave this way?

Simple. They were subjected to a technology that was so extreme and incomprehensible that they were suddenly reduced to the level of compliant children and felt grateful to still be alive in the wake of their mind-wrenching experience.

This technology is about to be used, albeit in a more subtle fashion, against American citizens in a highly classified and covert operation to mind control and manipulate the entire population into ‘compliance’ with our New World order overlords. The technology will utilize a combination of HAARP transmitters, GWEN towers, microwave cell phone towers, and the soon-to-be-mandatory High Definition Digital TV (HD) that will enter your home via:

a. cable b. satellite c. HD TVs d. those oh-so-easy-to-obtain “digital converter boxes” that the government is so anxious to help you obtain and underwrite most of the cost on your behalf

But why is the government so anxious to help American citizens experience a clearer and more highly defined television picture? Does that make sense to you? Since when is the government so concerned about the visual quality of our televised entertainment that congress would pass an undebated statutory proclamation which mandated that the HD conversion take place on Feb. 17, 2009 and and then subsidize about 90% of the associated cost?

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_mindcon40.htm

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_sociopol_mindcon.htm#Additional_Information

[shadowstalker]

But why is the government so anxious to help American citizens experience a clearer and more highly defined television picture? Does that make sense to you? Since when is the government so concerned about the visual quality of our televised entertainment that congress would pass an undebated statutory proclamation which mandated that the HD conversion take place on Feb. 17, 2009 and and then subsidize about 90% of the associated cost?
Yes that is disturbing, and still bad quality stuff....

[WhiteFeather]

Its called dumbing down the sheep baaaaaaah. Compliments of Tavistock perhaps. http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?44203-The-Tavistock-Institute-An-Interview-By-Mel-Fabregas

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXr6fkff6zg&feature=player_embedded#!

[CdnSirian]

Well...I gave up my cable altogether and take what I can get from an antenna signal. If I don't get, it is no loss.

I can get all kinds of sports... ha ha. Sports is related to gambling/booking/...those signals will always be among the best.

[Earth Angel]

I grew up in a house with two brothers and a dad who were not the least bit interested in sports which was great, and I married an artist who is also not interested in sports at all......I am very grateful for this......I do believe it is just another means to divide people.....the odd thing about sports to me is, if you watch your team for instance the Toronto Blue Jays......how many of the players are from Toronto?? I dont have a clue but i wouldn't be surprised if the answer was NONE.......so why do people follow the home team their whole lives when the players may not even be from their country let alone town......anyway I have not had cable for almost 3 years now and I am so happy without it.......however other people do not seem to be happy that I don't have tv.......its almost annoying to them when they said did you see x show or even better have you seen the commercial for x........and you say No I don't watch TV........they seem almost like you are insulting them or bragging about something.......what else can I say ?? I didn't see it and I don't miss it at allllllll

[mosquito]

Hi Raf,

Sport used to be, and in some cases still is, a means of recreation, exercise and fun ! Played well, it is also entertaining. Unfortunately, you're too young to have witnessed your country's brilliant football team of the 70s, believe me they were a joy to watch. What's happend over the years though is that sports have become over commercialised and corrupted, the players (and I'm talking about football here) are mostly a bunch of arrogant little prima-donnas and the quality of the game has not necessarily improved. To be fair though, there are some players who still have a good attitude, Messi for example.

I used to love sport but unfortunately, it's all become 1 large racket, with players plastered with adverts and slogans, and of course it's used by the media to distract people from what's really going on in the world.

[noprophet]

Little synchronicity here. I was just looking up stuff related to this the other day.

Walter Camp (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Camp), sometimes called the father of football, helped establish the modern sport of american football we know today throughout the 1900s.

Camp was on the various collegiate football rules committees that developed the American game from his time as a player at Yale until his death. He is credited with innovations such as the snap-back from center, the system of downs, and the points system, as well as the introduction of the now-standard offensive arrangement of players (a seven-man offensive line and a four-man backfield consisting of a quarterback, two halfbacks, and a fullback). Camp was also responsible for introducing the "safety", the awarding of two points to the defensive side for tackling a ball carrier in his own end zone followed by a free kick by the offense from its own 20-yard line (to change possession). This is significant, as rugby union has no point value award for this action, but instead awards a scrum to the attacking side five meters from the goal line and Rugby League awards the defense by receiving a drop out on the goal line by the team caught inside their goal area.


Camp was born in the city of New Britain, Connecticut, the son of Leverett Lee and Ellen Sophia (Cornwell) Camp. He attended Hopkins Grammar School in New Haven, entered Yale College in 1876, and graduated in 1880. At Yale he was a member of Delta Kappa Epsilon fraternity and Skull and Bones.


By the age of 33, twelve years after graduating from Yale, Walter Camp had already become known as the "Father of American Football". In a column in the popular magazine Harper's Weekly, sports columnist Caspar Whitney had applied the nickname

Always with bones and numbers. :P

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/49/Harpers_weekly_1897.jpg

[RMorgan]

Well...I gave up my cable altogether and take what I can get from an antenna signal. If I don't get, it is no loss.

I can get all kinds of sports... ha ha. Sports is related to gambling/booking/...those signals will always be among the best.

The same here mate. I have no cable as well and the best signals are always either sports or religious channels trying to steal good people´s money.

Anyway, I don´t watch TV anymore.

Frankly, I´m so pissed off about this kind of sports fan behavior that I have even lost some friends because of it, during the last years.

You know, it´s not only about sports; it´s about blind fanaticism. I can´t stand this sort of far-fetched behavior.

People always expect you to at least try to fit in, but my intellectual/spiritual evolution process is naturally leading me to exactly the contrary.

Cheers,

Raf.

[Fred Steeves]

Well Raf, you've hit a soft spot there. From the time I learned how to ride a bicycle, til the time I thankfully began to see through the matrix 3 1/2 ago, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers (American)football team consumed a huge part of my life. I still look back and just shake my head at myself, but atleast I now walk with the understanding of the delusions so many others are still lost in.

It's tough to "field"(LOL) questions from family at the occasional get together, as to my opinion of the most recent sports team in season. Because I don't give a crap. But then again, we're not here this time around for r&r are we?

Cheers,
Fred

[foreverfan]

I'm a Moderator for a New Orleans Saints Football Fan Site.

http://media.nola.com/tpphotos/photo/new-orleans-saints-super-bowl-0d2ed39b84f84438.jpg

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[annieVee]

And one of the reasons i broke up with my ex boyfriend LOL

[Sidney]

Several months ago I started a thead on this very subject, here it is along with my view on sports. (NOT A FAN) lol

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?33085-Sports-My-view&highlight=sports

[Tane Mahuta]

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I'm in to sports... but I won't let it consume me...

As in life...

"It's not whether you win or loose, but how you play the game!!"

nuff said

TM

[Airwooz]

I used to pursuit NBA stars and teams, now I still watch NBA and play basketball but Im not fascinated by the comercial part anymore. Once you get rid off the modern brainwashed TV sports, and go to the field play your games, you will adapt to the pure pleasure like Taichi or Yoga, I don't think that meditation or philosophy is the only way for consciousness development.

But I have to say many TV entertainment sports are ugly and makes me sick, too many comercial, player only seek for money and fame and eventually destroyed by material, like you said big corporations get involve into the game too much especially Olympic game, even gambling groups , they just arrested bunch of soccer player and official for corruption in my country and then replaced with new guys that still corrupted to the hell, guess what ? people still fall for the same trap, Ha!

[PHARAOH]

I'm a fan of sports, not so much a team. As a Yankee fan, I too enjoy watching them lose. Love the sport not the team.

[9eagle9]

I like sports, I have found all sports on TV boring to watch (all are reduced to watching someone play golf) . I used to like hockey play offs on TV but I think for women it's a bit different. That subliminated leverage is intended for men to get them aggressively stirred up by proxy.

I watch Equestrian sports on tv but its not geared up in that same subliminal way and that is my version of Monday Night football. Because I have no cable I watch old taped events...lol...or maybe a live event if a friend has it on the tube once in a while... where I yell and scream, criticize the rider and groan at the judges and be an arm chair equestrian--show jumping, and cross country. Actually I am an equestrian and don't mind yelling at professional riders its not like they can hear me.

But there's nothing on EQ tv that takes the place of actually eventing or riding on one's own.


I could understand all this excitement and involvement if one were a soccer player, a footballer, a baseball player but most fans are not and probably haven't a clue of what goes on in the playing field so this groaning criticism of the home team is always amusing (oh yeah? can you do that? would YOU have done better?)

At any rate I seldom turn my TV on but am not above venturing up to the local farm team to watch them play hockey. Typically a crowd of 20 to 200 so chances are things are not going to be out of control rioting and the focus is on the game and not this overly aggressive domineering riot inciting energy.

These conversations always remind me of my uncle who goes through about five tv sets a year and risks electrocution by sticking his prosthetic leg into the tv screen. He's been doign that since the 70's though so I can't say that HD is entirely to blame.

[Fred Steeves]

I used to pursuit NBA stars and teams, now I still watch NBA and play basketball but Im not fascinated by the comercial part anymore. Once you get rid off the modern brainwashed TV sports, and go to the field play your games, you will adapt to the pure pleasure like Taichi or Yoga, I don't think that meditation or philosophy is the only way for consciousness development.


I totally agree Airwooz, very important distinction. Doing any type of physical activity can be conducive to being in "the zone" of no mind. This is worlds apart from worshiping sports teams and their stars. Anyone who has experienced being in "the zone", intimately understands how empowering it is to be clicking on all cylinders, and not be able to miss, without even thinking about it.

I'll still enjoy picking up a basketball and shooting some hoops, and even my profession being a carpenter has many similarities. Hell, there's even no thing wrong with a little friendly competition, just that in the end it doesn't really matter who wins. We can keep each other sharp playing a friendly game of basketball, same as we keep each other sharp here on the forum. In the same fashion, I can get quite deep in natural meditation spending 6 hours pressure washing a driveway. That's most fortunate, as I've come to view proper sit down meditation as quite boring.(LOL)

Cheers,
Fred

[Carmody]

Sport is to help keep the mind focused, to remind it as reinforcement, of the animal side of the brain.

It keeps one in the fear mode, in the fear response, the war response.

The appearance is, that the majority of those who 'police' (for the hidden upper levels) humanity also own sports teams, as part of their series of requirements to be part of the controllers group.


It is a form of mantra of the illiterate, regarding group mind capacity to influence reality and infect that upon others and themselves.

It is well known that the concentration of a few can outweigh the independence and independent direction of a 'unaware' larger group. This also holds true in meditation being used to help clear people.

Recall the story about how the group of monks meditated in Washing ton DC and brought the crime rate down for the entire area. This is perfectly normal.

Large numbers of illiterate people, with lower soul development, will still, and easily cause a great amount of havoc in the immediate area, with their 'sports rituals' and religion, and meditations, reinforcement, home mediation, and all of that. They do this fear/war response meditation at a level that is at LEAST as potent as that of a monk who stays within strict vows and behavior.

Therefore, the group mind is projecting a mind-force, a energy that infects others' given psychic state and they are also unknowingly in the fear/enemy/war animal response mode.

I can create a tulpa with enough concentration. AND HAVE. Others can see it and integrate with it, if I am willed enough, over time...and...when they see it, it will get stronger. their energies reflect back at it and make it more real.

The controllers have created a situation where the people create their own slavery for themselves, their own locked pattern and it is projected out, into the world. a form of having a peaceful society that is psychically locked into a mindstate of war and animalism. All on it's own, and does the same to others via projection and integrates with others in the same way.

it is the worst of the worst when it comes to locking people into an inescapable lockdown of non-growth, that one can imagine.

It is JUST shy of war. maybe.

It is more potent than war, though, as it does not end. It perpetuates, for as long as the team, the mini wars, as the observer and adherent (sports fan) exists and participates.

Recall, people can become powerful monks. capable of doing amazing things.

But an ox can pull a cart. powerfully so.

In this case we have the will of the given human tied to being an unaware ox, pulling carts. Psychic intention and direction/intensity carts, that are projected out from themselves, at others. like a coven of witches, but 100,000++ of them... at a time. Or more. All over the planet, directed at one another, and projecting into others. Keeping our minds locked down into animal mode.

Large audience team sports need to END. Period. END. (it is merely one of the base components of keeping the greater tulpa alive, when the sociopaths moved into the city-state mode of controlling people. It is part of the same manifestation.

Read this thread. If you read it (all of it), I hope you will begin to understand what is going on, and then, if you have any involvement in team sports, get away from those sports.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?45893-Forum-in-flux--eclipse-cycle-venus-transit-

Walk away, get out of that thought mode. Get away. Stop it. End it. Never think in that area again. Clear yourself, your mind, and your presence... and stop working for, stop creating your own jail, stop working for what is killing and trying to control us all.

Memorabilia, shirts, posters, etc, all of it has to go, anything that triggers any component of a 'strumming of strings' in the old part of the mind, that reawakens it.

For when that is done, a triggering of old thoughts...it excites them back into a greater intensity, a reinforcement... and when it is NOT all gone, a old pattern can be re-emergent through cues and triggers. Meaning, like losing weight you can't sneak a game in, or have an old comfortable thought. either you area screwing over yourself, creating your own slavery and the slavery of others, or you are not. (what's it gonna be?)(are you your new self... or are you still the killer minded animal, of old?. projecting that out to others, in part of a witches coven of unaware psychic intent?)

Therefore all connections to it ...have to go. This is the important part. The emotional connection, the animal connection, the deep connection.

The autonomous animal part of the mind never shuts off, and the reflection point of that interface, is the core point that allows the collective and individual mind-tulpas to be, to emerge, to exist as pure reflection into reality formation......and this is the area this bit of 'functionality of reality'....works in.

Thus all reminders and all potential triggers, including any bit of such television, etc, all of it has to go. Every inch of it.

That blindness that humanity seems to have? That blanking of the mind? Where do you think it comes from, that giant blank and blind spot? Religion, sports..etc.

[ulli]

Sport is to help keep the mind focused, to remind it as reinforcement, of the animal side of the brain.

It keeps one in the fear mode, in the fear response, the war response.

The appearance is, that the majority of those who 'police' (for the hidden upper levels) humanity also own sports teams, as part of their series of requirements to be part of the controllers group.


It is a form of mantra of the illiterate, regarding group mind capacity to influence reality and infect that upon others and themselves.

It is well known that the concentration of a few can outweigh the independence and independent direction of a larger group. This also holds true in meditation.

Recall the story about how the group of monks meditated in Washing ton DC and brought the crime rate down for the entire area. this is perfectly normal.


Large numbers of illiterate people, with lower soul development will still cause a great amount of havoc in the immediate area, with their 'sports rituals and religion, and meditations, reinforcement, home mediation, and all of that. They do this fear/war response meditation at a level that is at LEAST as potent as that of a monk who stays within strict vows and behavior.

Therefore, the group mind is projecting a mind-force, a energy that infects others' given psychic state and they are also unknowingly in the fear/enemy/war animal response mode.

I can create a tulpa with enough concentration. AND HAVE. Others can see it and integrate with it, if I am willed enough, over time...and...when they see it, it will get stronger. their energies reflect back at it and make it more real.

The controllers have created a situation where the people create their own slavery for themselves, their own locked pattern and it is projected out, into the world. a form of having a peaceful society that is psychically locked into a mindstate of war and animalism. All on it's own, and does the same to others via projection and integrates with others in the same way.

it is the worst of the worst when it comes to locking people into an inescapable knockdown of non-growth that one can imagine.

it is JUST shy of war. maybe.

It is more potent, though, as it does not end. it perpetuates, for as long as the team, the mini wars, and the observant/adherence exists and participates.

recall, people can become powerful monks. capable of doing amazing things.

But an ox can pull a cart. powerfully so.

in this case we have the will of the given human tied to being an unaware ox, pulling carts. Psychic intention and direction/intensity carts, that are projected out from themselves, at others. like a coven of witches, but 100,000 of them at a time. Or more. All over the planet, directed at one another,and projecting into others. Keeping our minds locked down into animal mode.

Large audience team sports need to END. Period. END. (it is merely one of the base components of keeping the greater tulpa alive, when the sociopaths moved into the city-state mode of controlling people. It is part of the same manifestation.


Read this thread. If you read it, I hope you will begin to understand what is going on, and then, if you have any involvement in team sports, get away from those sports.

Walk away, get out of that thought mode. Get away. Stop it. End it. Never think in that area gain. Clear yourself, your mind, and your presence... and stop working for, stop creating your own jail, stop working for what is killing and trying to control us all.



http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?45893-Forum-in-flux--eclipse-cycle-venus-transit-

Been saying this all my life. No one ever listened. Now I'm even married to a soccer fan.
Team sports is duality and competition. While a certain amount of competition is healthy, in my view, the dividing of the world into spectators (passive) and performers (active) is the worst aspect of duality.
There are other forms of recreational activity, which require participation.
How did I manifest a world which is the opposite of what I wanted? How?
Unless one says 'before things can get better they have to get worse'?

The movie Rollerball has come true. Sigh.

[donk]

It's all about (DUH) WINNING!!

First off, rooting for your "home team" in America never had anything to do with watching local kids since I was born, at least. It is the tee-vee market that allows you to view all the game, the teams with shortest to drive to watch live. You tend to develop an emotional attachment to the team you get to see most often.

I used to be rabidly fanatic about all the major Philly teams, purchasing the NHL package when I went out west for a bit and made sure to get up to get to a bar with the ticket to catch my iggles...then they lost the NFC Championship Game (think about aught-three), I was severely depressed (pathetic, I know) for like 3/4 of the rest of the day.

Then I thought about it--would I feel as intensely good if they won the super bowl as intensly bad that I feel right now? How effing stupid is it to have an emotional attachment to (and this is the point of post, and should be incorporated into the title of the thread imo): SPECTATING??

Semi-passively watching a bunch of (admittedly talented) people doing there best to WIN. Beat the other team. Feel pride and causing the ENEMY shame.

It's nice at the end of the hockey playoff series to watch them all shake hands, but it is for most of them (players, coaches, fans) a bunch of BS...the winners get a rush while the losers feel like losers.

Happy to say that (finally) I can barely name a dozen Philly starters (a decade ago I knew the history and lives of the last players on the benchs)...I can't sit through an entire game, I get nothing out of it. Instead of spending all my time and emotional energy worshipping/criticizing these "heroes", hoping they put the pieces together so I can watch them bring home the cup/trophy/pennent/etc--the "quintessential experience" to every true fan...I value NEW experiences more than anything. Seen enough, done with spectator sports--pity those that give so much time/energy and their identity to SPECTATING....

...now put me on the pitch, get a game going--it will be a different story (: I think it's natural for participants in the sports to watch--I like watching poker and snowboarding, the only televized activities that are on a lot--and it's fun to root for a player you have some sort of connection to...but it kills me to watch my kids pick a team and call themselves fans, it's slightly better to know that they don't really give a rat'sass about the team--they just trying to fit in, as opposed to becoming the fanatic daddy was.

Oh yeah--I didn't just go cold turkey right away, 15+ years of spectating was quite an addiction...what got me to the point I will not watch anymore, unless forced--and to stop accept tickets given (I used to love going to games, I despise it now)...quitting drinking. Booze totally enhances the spectating experience (makes it tolerable to those "forced" to participate). i think the connection may be important.

[noprophet]

The only difference between the playground and the arena is the scoreboard; and everything that comes with it.

When did they teach you to keep score?

[Kano]

I'm a fan of sports, not so much a team. As a Yankee fan, I too enjoy watching them lose. Love the sport not the team.

I agree with this statement (minus the Yankee fan part :) ).

I am a fan of sports, grew up my whole life playing soccer, went to a Division I college on a full scholarship and even represented my country as a youth. I have dedicated the better part of my life to the beautiful game and still play and cherish it to this day. The connections and friendships that I have gained over the years through my involvement with sport has been unparalleled anywhere else in my life. I gladly owe the game, the sport of soccer, not a team or a player. I will always appreciate and nurture the skills that I dedicated myself to on and off the pitch. Given the right perspective, people can benefit greatly from physical competition.

Sadly now, people are identifying themselves as being a fan or this team or that team. It's a part of their social complex. It's like identifying yourself as the meatsuit you see in the mirror. It's not based in any substance at all.

However, if you can acknowledge the brilliance and passion of these professional athletes, in any sport on any team, and appreciate the skill and dedication each has given to get to where they are, sport can actually nurture the soul, or at least it has mine.

Having said all of that, I am very much looking forward to the Summer Olympics as well as Euro Cup 2012.

Kano

[Koyaanisqatsi]

Sports have been a part of life deep into antiquity. Im not convinced its anything more than human nature

[Maknocktomb]

Professional sports today is a diversion much like during the Roman times when they had the games in the Colosseum. The Roman emperors let the little people (general population) have their games while the emperor and the senate did want they want without the public's knowledge. Its the same today. The powers at be want you distracted and not knowing the truth, stay asleep.....

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With that said, I am also trapped here with everyone else, but I am now aware and yes I still enjoy sports.

[Ernie Nemeth]

I've never been much of a sports fan. Except for the occasional playoff series in hockey, I'm from Canada, eh. Funny but I have lived in cities that have won the Stanley Cup while I was there - Montreal, Edmonton, Vancouver, Calgary. What's up with Toronto, as an aside?

I also like to watch any sport at the Olympics during the Olympics.
Although the competition part does not interest me, I really am blown away by the human aspect of perfecting a skill.

I played sports throughout my school days. Basketball was my choice and track and field - sprints and, high and long jump. Oh yeah, and ping-pong! I was a champion in that one. It was how I got involved with the "in" crowd. Everyone likes the jocks, especially during parties. Ye ha!

And can I say here, wow, Carmody, you are on such a roll these days. Or am I just now noticing it?

[Ivanhoe]

I enjoy some sports, mostly college football and some pro football and baseball.
I remember a time when it was about sportsmanship and playing for the fun of it, and challenging yourself to do the best you can, win or lose.
There's no shame in losing when you've done your best.
Now it's all about WINNING and mega bucks. How sad.
I really enjoy motorsports, that is, Formula 1 and road racing like Le Mans, where it's about the skill and endurance of the driver and his machine. I'm not a fan of Nascar, round d'rounds.
I also like drag racing, but I miss the early days of going down to the strip and watching the locals. I guess it's a need for speed. LOL!
I also like track and field.

[donk]

Appreciating sport and physical competition and games and even athletes is one thing, being a fanatic spectator is an entirely different thing.

[RMorgan]

Appreciating sport and physical competition and games and even athletes is one thing, being a fanatic spectator is an entirely different thing.

Hey mate,

A agree 100%.

I´m not against practicing sports at all.

I just can´t understand why some people blindly cheer for a team, while they are pretty much the same.

Teams are nothing more than meaningless symbols, in my opinion.

Cheers,

Raf.

[DarMar]

Good question,

Sport for me have deep impact and i really cant stand and look at that primitive way of competition and looser/winner schematics. For me there is absolute nothing that is even closely to fun at watching at it.
But... there is fun to run after ball and play footbal, i like that, and i like to play tennis for fun and basketball. And there is no darn chance i could just sit and observe someone who plays, dont even need to mention that psyho cheering element.
In Croatia two things are main part of most of people and that is religion (catholic) and football. Football fans are mostly neo-nazi oriented and hates everyone who is not from their part of town, dont even wanna mention what happens when on football match comes some fans from other towns. Half city knows to burn often cause of 'game'.
And i can't reall catch anything interesting in that agressive approach.
Moreover ... everybody here are wondering and pushing up in stars foot-players and they live like gods here .. payements counted in millions and living in big houses and driving unique expensive cars. Than when some match is on those poor workless people goes to give nice ammount of money to watch game and beat each other while giving some player for 10 new mercedes cars.

Whats fun in it? i dont really see it.
I love recreational part when im somehow involved cause of movement but that maniacaly cheering and passive watching is not my type.

[RUSirius]

Playing sports I think is great, I played my whole life, however corporate sports I am totally against, which is basically every pro sport out there. I also appreciate the skills that athletes have.

[foreverfan]

For 3 hours on Sunday for 20 weeks a year I get to get together with friends and enjoy the game. For people who don't understand (my wife), I have nothing to offer. It's just pure entertainment. It's better than listening to a Drake post or other related fear porn.

Oh yea.... I cancelled my cable a few weeks ago too.

[9eagle9]

The difference between if one focuses on the playing part of it or the competitive part of it.

In antiquity some games were meant to prepare the young for war.

[/I]
Sports have been a part of life deep into antiquity. Im not convinced its anything more than human nature

[Carmody]

The difference between if one focuses on the playing part of it or the competitive part of it.

In antiquity some games were meant to prepare the young for war.

[/I]
Sports have been a part of life deep into antiquity. Im not convinced its anything more than human nature


A general note for all readers:


Yes, and now it is a modern substitute for war, with regard to psychological entrainment into a war like state, exactly like that of a group of monks who might be meditating.

In this case it is entrainment of the self into an animal like thought mode. to keep one's self there.

To materialize one's on chains of 'not growth' and animalism.

the part that desires to keep 'large team sports' alive in the self is the ego. That's the thing that holds you back, the lack of self realization,and sports is a big part of that in the world today, regarding keeping that mindset..of 'war'.

Yes, the playing part is important.... but consider that everyone involved is telling themselves it is about the playing part when the vast majority are involved, on the mental projection level and self entrainment level..as the animal like war aspect.

And if you give them excuse, if you give yourself excuse... and they give themselves any excuse, at all.........................you/they will continue. The lie to the self will continue.

think about it for a second.

How does one stop smoking?

No more excuses, they simply stop smoking. Or, they can't control themselves. they can't control their own bodies.

Tell me how sports fans are any different.

[Peace of Mind]

As a youngling, I was very active so I needed an outlet for all that energy, sports just so happen to be the thing to do. I grew up playing Basketball and football. I even spent some time in a simi-pro football league ….and I was really good at it. I probably could have gone pro if I went to the right schools. However, as I aged I’ve become less interested in sports due to their manipulative and over competitive ways. Today I hold no regrets because I probably wouldn’t have ended up on the path I’m on now; I was a very aggressive and fearless competitor.

IMO, I see Sports as another divide and conquer tactic. It numbs the feeling of compassion for others; it puts you in a mental state of false entitlement, separation, and conflict. You start thinking that you're more superior than others while viewing the world from your pedestal. Whenever an organization can get a team of people/its fans/its city/its country to root for and against people…it’s not really a good thing….especially when people take sports as serious as they do now days.

Finding joy in winning something so meaningless……while also enjoying the tears of defeat of your competition (and its fans) is just another way to condition the mind to be insensitive to other people’s pain and misfortunes…. Not to mention the injuries and the results of what the money in sports actually do to the minds, cultures and communities.

Players subject themselves and the livelihood of their family to hard times of the heart by simply being contradictory to humility. Almost everything in their life is now about winning, and by all means necessary. In professional sports you’ll hardly spend time with your family, and your mind is constantly on thoughts of beating everyone else.

I’ve seen people yell and fight each other because they rooted for different teams. I wonder if we never had competitive sports…would our history and present have so much wars and conflict?

Peace

[778 neighbour of some guy]

Teamsports, not a big fan but i watch it on occasion, i used to go to see AJAX play the Amsterdam soccer team and i used to like the atmosphere on the terasses, off course there are the hooligans and what not( dont like them, give the true fans a bad reputation), but every aspect of life has its fanatics and numbskulls which you can choose to associate with or distance yourself from.

Nowadays i dont like to go anymore because of the more general degenaration i observe in the masses at large and no longer wish to be associated with it for the larger part so i created my own little playground were i make the rules or play by rules i agree to play by for the time i choose the play the games.

I like sports, and yes it stems from wargames, but the best thing about getting physical is it clears the mind and i suggest to everybody to find a for them appropiate way/game to excercise their body, sweat like an idiot and replace your icky fluids with fresh ones, dont forget to replace the electrolytes, before during and after your workout, it will prevent cramping up.

Nevertheless, to me its nothing but a sweat a stretch and a nice workout, what i do myself is in this order, i eat, cycle to the gym as a warm up, when arrived i stretch, i dash through the weight machines to suck in a good amount of air under pressure ( between 30/45 minutes), have another stretch, strap on my gloves and shin protection and do my muay thai thing with boys who want to play boy for an hour and i am done, cool down on the way home on the bike again, eat, sleep, snore very loud, get kissed or bitten in the earlobe when to loud and enjoy the massive grounding effect from all of the above for the next 2/3 days and start all over again.

[leavesoftrees]

Spectator sport involves the wrong use of sex energy. So it will attract attendant 2nd chakra problems. viz

1) power
2) money


Appreciating sport and physical competition and games and even athletes is one thing, being a fanatic spectator is an entirely different thing.

[araucaria]

This post of Carmody’s (#20) I would describe as idealistic, meaning too far off the learning curve being experienced by most people on this planet at this time to be of much help. We are in a process of evolving in the physical, and there is no way to get to that point from where we are at right now. The following sentence makes no bones of this fact.


Large audience team sports need to END. Period. END. No: such sports need to evolve, which they are doing. They are evolving from war, which is still to this day considered a viable political tool by nearly every government. They are evolving from a symbolized form of war into something else. I mentioned a while back Edouard Manet’s mad notion of a female bullfighter who is actually an artist. We won’t be getting too many women bullfighters because the sport is dying for lack of support, we now have women soccer players, which would have seemed pretty ludicrous not so long ago.

This is not women being absorbed into macho society. It is quite the reverse: the civilizing of macho society by women. Women’s soccer is a different game altogether, nothing like a watered-down version of war.

Popular spectator sports are mostly watched by people who themselves play, in the process learning and practising sporting values which are ultimately the same as the human values we and others advocate. The couch potato is not as representative as some would think.

Sport and any physical activity is valuable in that we learn to think not only with the mind, but also with the heart, the lungs, arms and legs: everything.

[grampah]

For a look back into how we born in the 30's started in sports, I have an essay on Pond Hockey 1940-1953, Belmont Massachusetts:
http://users.mo-net.com/nixit/ponds.html

I played and coached youth soccer for four years in the late 70's and organized and coached youth ice hockey for 6 years in the 60's, then played amateur senior ice hockey till 1987. I cherish the memories of the fun, comraderie and friendships. I sold my TV in 1987, and haven't missed it yet. I'd rather watch kids and amateurs play any sport than pay a dime to attend a professional match.

[Rambo45]

I don't watch TV all that much and only watch sports when a bunch of my friends want to. So sad to see how involved they are, how attached they are.

[VirgoSun79]

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I'm in to sports... but I won't let it consume me...

As in life...

"It's not whether you win or loose, but how you play the game!!"

nuff said

TM

I agree. Plus when I'm watching sports; I'm not only watching the game (which is a completely different experience than what everybody else is having) I'm also society watching. Ever since I was a kid I always found myself watching other people have an experience and my enjoyment or not, changes with that experience. I don't know, if it's my 29 degree moon in (observing) Aquarius, or the empathic side of me or simply the way I'm wired. I'm always in a state of observation and watching how people's emotions can be 'toyed' with, always found that interesting.

Now as far as what's happening between the players and the game itself that's totally different. I'm an actor (began in theater) so I totally understand the different experience the actor is having on stage with the other actors; from what everybody is watching is having. They could not be further apart. lol Same thing with sports, the players are in the same world as you but looking at it from a very different POV.

[jackovesk]

I have been a 'Sports Fan' and played 'Sport' all my life...

...some of the Anti-Sports comments on this 'Thread' have truly amazed me as to just how 'Dumb & Ignorant' some people really are..!

Without naming names - re-read some of your posts and start having a good look in the mirror..!!!

It reminds me of a bunch of Politicians who never could make it in the real world of business, yet at the same time (with no-expertise whatsover) are actually in charge of making 'Big Business Decisions & Policy', doesn't really make sense does it...:faint:

[applecrusher1992]

Just went to a baseball game. It was nice but I don't enjoy sports as much as I use to anymore.

[Menkaure]

Not a big fan what with the example these professional sports figures show to our young. Like these basketball figures mounting everything in site or the illegal gambling they get caught at, the whole story of O.J. Simpson, etc. Not something I want my kids exposed to.