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spiritguide
8th June 2012, 23:38
Rand Paul endorsed Romney, Ron Paul says he is not in running any more. Now the PTB are attacking Alex Jones. The set up a attack on alternate media continues.

jjjones
9th June 2012, 00:28
spiritguide, you most certainly are not surprised by this. politicians world-wide in high ranking role play are owned/controlled by the "banksters", they are sheeple/ debt slaves in their own right. the only difference from the main stream people is that they are highly controlled and have more counterfit/ fiat toilet paper money and a few more material things/stuff. there definitely will not be seen a brinks truck or a mayflower moving van with their "useless stuff" & fiat paper money following their hearse to the cemetery at their demise. also these politicians fear " bad bad leroy brown", the baddest group in the whole damn world. if the people wake up from their sleep and the sheeple look up and around them from grazing in the grass, watch out leroy brown, hell hath no fury like 7 billion people scorned! lol we the people assume that there are republicans, democrats, and independent political groups, in reality they all are the same owned by the "elite banksters". these political debates and antagonisms are rehearsed constructed drama, written, scripted, produced and directed by the "bilderberg elite banksters". voting is an ILLUSION and debt = SLAVERY not FREEDOM. nobody should vote this year. how about this election the votes as of now are being counted and tallied in SPAIN! the american way??? how does that grab you? read about the company doing the counting, very interesting. well enough is enough of my ranting on the "soap box". i certainly didn't mean to go on and on, but i guess i needed to vent and certainly didn't mean to be offensive in any way. this is a great thread and i hope that there are more replies. your thread deserves to be answered. thank you so much and best wishes. namaste, peace and love universally :)

spiritguide
9th June 2012, 01:38
spiritguide, you most certainly are not surprised by this. politicians world-wide in high ranking role play are owned/controlled by the "banksters", they are sheeple/ debt slaves in their own right. the only difference from the main stream people is that they are highly controlled and have more counterfit/ fiat toilet paper money and a few more material things/stuff. there definitely will not be seen a brinks truck or a mayflower moving van with their "useless stuff" & fiat paper money following their hearse to the cemetery at their demise. also these politicians fear " bad bad leroy brown", the baddest group in the whole damn world. if the people wake up from their sleep and the sheeple look up and around them from grazing in the grass, watch out leroy brown, hell hath no fury like 7 billion people scorned! lol we the people assume that there are republicans, democrats, and independent political groups, in reality they all are the same owned by the "elite banksters". these political debates and antagonisms are rehearsed constructed drama, written, scripted, produced and directed by the "bilderberg elite banksters". voting is an ILLUSION and debt = SLAVERY not FREEDOM. nobody should vote this year. how about this election the votes as of now are being counted and tallied in SPAIN! the american way??? how does that grab you? read about the company doing the counting, very interesting. well enough is enough of my ranting on the "soap box". i certainly didn't mean to go on and on, but i guess i needed to vent and certainly didn't mean to be offensive in any way. this is a great thread and i hope that there are more replies. your thread deserves to be answered. thank you so much and best wishes. namaste, peace and love universally :)

Your truth is worth the rant. Thank you for exposing the system for what it is.

:peace:

mosquito
9th June 2012, 02:06
Wow, so Americans are going to have one hell of a choice later this year - vote for a bigot or a charlatan.

What do all the good, thinking Americans do ???

humanalien
9th June 2012, 02:17
Wow, so Americans are going to have one hell of a choice later this year - vote for a bigot or a charlatan.

What do all the good, thinking Americans do ???

Better yet, Just don't vote at all....

ThePythonicCow
9th June 2012, 03:30
Somewhere, forgot where, a week or three ago, I read an article that predicted that Ron and Rand Paul were maneuvering to get Rand Paul selected as Mitt Romney's Vice-President. The report in this thread fits with that theory.

risveglio
9th June 2012, 03:38
Rand Paul endorsed Romney, Ron Paul says he is not in running any more. Now the PTB are attacking Alex Jones. The set up a attack on alternate media continues.

Ron Paul never said he is not running anymore. He has conceded that he will probably only have abound 500 delegates going to convention which will probably not be enough to get the nomination. It does seem that Paul will have officially won enough primaries to be on the ballot unless the GOP pull some other kind of bs rule. The delegates are still unbound but it would almost take divine intervention for enough of them that are sworn to Romney to change their vote. I think Paul's run was a good one, the GOP made sure he did not get the nomination but hopefully he will still make a big difference. This is a pretty good take on what Paul did.

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As for Rand Paul, I don't know what to think but I have heard enough angles. For me, unless something come out to change my mind, he has lost all of my support but there is a long list of reasons, some good, some not so good why he may have made the move. Some think it is a way to get the libertarians inside. It is pretty obvious that the GOP the way they are today are not going to let someone that believes in small government, sound money, the end of the bogus drug war and a non-interventionist foreign policy get a Presidential nomination, so maybe this was a ok, lets pretend to play along. One of the conspiracy theories I have heard is that Rand was told either make the endorsement or we will take out your father. Probably a far stretch but who knows. There is also the idea Rand is just not his father and is just looking out for himself and his political future. If that is the case, I think it may back fire because I do not think we are too far off from the tipping point where people realize the left/right paradigm is bull**** and the ideas of liberty become stronger.

I guess I do not understand how not voting helps. I don't think Romney or Obama care if they win with 70% of the population or 2% as long as they sit in the white house with all the new found powers given to the POTUS by the Bush and Obama administrations. Though I guess not voting is the same as what I plan to do with is write in Ron Paul, just a protest vote, telling them I am not going to be part of the game.

Tane Mahuta
9th June 2012, 03:41
Wow, so Americans are going to have one hell of a choice later this year - vote for a bigot or a charlatan.

What do all the good, thinking Americans do ???

Better yet, Just don't vote at all....

I too concur...fellow Americans...fellow Avalonians!!

"Abstain from voting"

TM

jjjones
9th June 2012, 14:41
risveglio & pa friends, it doesn't matter if one votes or doesn't vote because a year or so in advance these "elite puppeteers" KNOW who is going to serve them and be their PUPPETS. politicians and the puppeteers world-wide all belong to the same group. all voting is for "WE THE PEOPLE" is a FALSE SENSE OF SECURITY manipulating us into thinking that WE THE PEOPLE have the FREEDOM, SAY, CHOICES & CONTROL in our lives and in our "PSEUDO" republic democracy government. in TRUTH "WE THE PEOPLE" are living in feudalism, indentured servitude and yes slavery. NO MATTER HOW ONE SLICES THE SCENARIO/CAKE this STILL EQUATES TO "SLAVERY" and WE THE PEOPLE DON'T COUNT! what do you think your BIRTH CERTIFICATE is about????? what do you think your DEATH CERTIFICATE is about???? look it up. our hx books need revised with the"TRUTH" published and taught to "WE THE PEOPLE". surely this won't happen because the "elite" own all of the msm and publishing companies. isn't freedom grand??? LOL hopefully nobody is offended by my rant. feel like so much is bubbling over inside and just gushed out. i am usually not this boldly outspoken, maybe has to do with the VENUS TRANSIT :) best wishes and take care my friends. namaste, peace and love universally :)

Maia Gabrial
9th June 2012, 15:36
Rand Paul endorsed Romney, Ron Paul says he is not in running any more. Now the PTB are attacking Alex Jones. The set up a attack on alternate media continues.

I think Rand Paul is a good man like his father, but even with his endorsement of Romney, I say NO THANKS! I know enough about Romney to say this. The truth is being exposed. So, Romney might want to find a rock to hide under with the rest of the criminals. Of course, that's if Obama makes room for him.... :becky:

PHARAOH
9th June 2012, 15:37
Rand Paul endorsed Romney, Ron Paul says he is not in running any more. Now the PTB are attacking Alex Jones. The set up a attack on alternate media continues.

spiritguide, this is the second time in as many days where you post claims and statements offering no proof or evidence of your posts. I am beginning to see a clear picture of you being guided by a spirit. Hmmm...... Where's the evidence??? :confused:

CdnSirian
9th June 2012, 16:30
Please post where this was reported - thanks.

spiritguide
9th June 2012, 17:20
Rand Paul endorsed Romney, Ron Paul says he is not in running any more. Now the PTB are attacking Alex Jones. The set up a attack on alternate media continues.

spiritguide, this is the second time in as many days where you post claims and statements offering no proof or evidence of your posts. I am beginning to see a clear picture of you being guided by a spirit. Hmmm...... Where's the evidence??? :confused:

Posted a statement of fact. Evidence is from Hannety video and Alex Jones infowars. If it's evidence you want just ask . sometimes I just get lazy and don't post the link. So here is the link to Alex Jone's sight... WWW.infowars.com .... Don't be confused deceit is not part of my aura.

sigma6
9th June 2012, 17:21
he undoes 30 years of his father's work and momentum on a cheap bribe, he could have stuck by his fathers side from the beginning, learned everything his father had to teach him, and he could have taken over the reins and been in a position to be a future president, what could be more dishonourable?

spiritguide
9th June 2012, 17:22
Please post where this was reported - thanks.

See the last post.... Your Welcome!

risveglio
9th June 2012, 17:52
Rand Paul endorsed Romney, Ron Paul says he is not in running any more. Now the PTB are attacking Alex Jones. The set up a attack on alternate media continues.

spiritguide, this is the second time in as many days where you post claims and statements offering no proof or evidence of your posts. I am beginning to see a clear picture of you being guided by a spirit. Hmmm...... Where's the evidence??? :confused:

Posted a statement of fact. Evidence is from Hannety video and Alex Jones infowars. If it's evidence you want just ask . sometimes I just get lazy and don't post the link. So here is the link to Alex Jone's sight... WWW.infowars.com .... Don't be confused deceit is not part of my aura.

This part is not true, "Ron Paul says he is not in running any more". Yeah Hannity made that claim but has Hannity ever said the truth about anything. See my post above, all Ron said was that he will not have enough delegate for the nomination and he wants his supporters to be respectful, ie, don't become violent and ruin the liberty movement. One of the the most important principles of what Ron has been preaching for the past 40 years is the non-aggression principle.

As I have stated and others have stated Rand Paul is not Ron Paul. He never was and never will be. Here is Adam Kokesh's take on it put lets not put what Rand Paul did on Ron Paul or on what Ron Paul has accomplished. What Ron Paul has done is not about Ron Paul, it is far bigger than Ron Paul.

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Another take, this one defending Rand a bit.
http://www.naturalnews.com/036122_Rand_Paul_Mitt_Romney_endorsement.html

sigma6
9th June 2012, 20:10
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Gerald Celente: Ron & Rand Paul Are Killing Their Movement!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=AYO-Rsi4dgc#!

At the end he says to keep an eye on the ('real') news outlets suggesting the following...
www.infowars.com
www.trendsjournal.com
www.wsws.org
www.xinhuanet.com/english/ (didn't give a specific Asian site)
www.rt.com (added for good measure)

Celente feels that something may happen during the summer when everyone is 'on vacation', and if the Satanic elites want to make 2012 a memorable year, they only got 6 more months to go...

spiritguide
9th June 2012, 20:19
@risveglio...... Adam starts his video with the statement of "his theory". The Hannity portion of it was stated facts without denial by both Hannity and Rand. The people that support and defend Ron's Liberty movement will keep that movement moving forward. Constitutionalist abound and liberty will be secured. No need to defend anyone here it's just plain fact that the players in the chess game have changed.

risveglio
10th June 2012, 19:52
@risveglio...... Adam starts his video with the statement of "his theory". The Hannity portion of it was stated facts without denial by both Hannity and Rand. The people that support and defend Ron's Liberty movement will keep that movement moving forward. Constitutionalist abound and liberty will be secured. No need to defend anyone here it's just plain fact that the players in the chess game have changed.

Oh thanks spiritguide. Since Hannity said it and Rand did not deny it, then it must be true. Silly me for not noticing that. Yet in Ron Paul's speech at the Texas Republican convention, he made no mention of not running. In his email to his supporters on Friday where he mentioned that he should have 500 delegates for the convention, no mention of not running and in his statement about the surprise win in Arkansas, again no mention of no longer running. Hmm, I guess we should just trust Hannity instead. The guy whose radio show Ron will not go on because he is intellectually dishonest. Thanks for putting me straight though spiritguide. I guess I should just go and start campaigning for Romney since it is obvious now that Hannity can be trusted. Silly silly me.

risveglio
10th June 2012, 20:13
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Gerald Celente: Ron & Rand Paul Are Killing Their Movement!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=AYO-Rsi4dgc#!

At the end he says to keep an eye on the ('real') news outlets suggesting the following...
www.infowars.com
www.trendsjournal.com
www.wsws.org
www.xinhuanet.com/english/ (didn't give a specific Asian site)
www.rt.com (added for good measure)

Celente feels that something may happen during the summer when everyone is 'on vacation', and if the Satanic elites want to make 2012 a memorable year, they only got 6 more months to go...

Come on Gerald, show me one, one place where Ron Paul has told his supporters to support Romney. Just show me one place, just one. Please, now I am starting to believe the people that said that AJ was controlled opposition and this seems to be proof. He is doing the same exact thing the MSM has been doing. Creating his own false theories to make the Ron Paul supporters just give up, we can't win, lets just go home. Ron Paul did not vacate ****. FU Gerald and AJ.

From RNN:
"EDITORIAL: There's a very simple reason why the elites always seem to win. It's because they never pick up their toys in a huff and go home. The idea that you can have and keep a Republic where you're in charge of everything but not imagine it as a full time 24x7 job reveals that perhaps you (yes I'm talking to all of you "pick up your toys" and go home Ron Paul supporters out there) never really understood what the Founders actually left in our hands for our safekeeping: Something that we must own and protect with maturity and wisdom, but also manage (hands on) with the tenacity, determination, skill and diplomacy of someone managing a complex business with employees and a substantial budget. How have you done so far? Did the founders set the bar too high for you? You do realize they expected you to bring your best citizen-ceo-owner "game" to the obligation and responsibility to keep and protect this Republic. This priceless inheritance they inserted into a trust with you as beneficiary and those you elect functioning as trustees. How are you doing so far? Confused? Have you done a bang up job? Let's check in on the elite while you think about it. The elites have sought and obtained superb educations, establish strong social networks, and obtained skills, experience and wisdom at making the world look exactly like they prefer it to look. It looks like crap doesn't it? But they do something basic that is worth paying attention to. You probably do it at work, but leave that skill there when you go home. It's called planning, training, execution and supervision. On a very large scale. They train, plan, and get the jobs needed to execute the plan. They also supervise people and processes to ensure plans are executed. To this end, they form or found think tanks. Foundations. Organizations. Movements. Some of the oldest founded universities to teach that view of the world they'd prefer to see. Smart eh? Competitively, they seek and obtain superior negotiating and competitive positions in almost every area of the political and economic landscape. They elevate the idea of ownership and management to a science. Impressive. They have become and are the professionals the founders intended US to be (heartbreaking isn't it?), BUT if it were us, it would be with the Constitution, Bill of Rights, free markets and sound money in mind."

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This describe Alex Jones and Gerald Celente to a tee. Please watch them closely. They just give the elites their ideas.

"There are several forces, some with probable counter intelligence objectives, and some just needing psychiatric help, at work hoping to blow this movement apart. And many of you are taking the bait and running with it. You nitwits. Rand Paul did not sacrifice his principles. He made a political compromise, from a position of strength, to advance the liberty movement even further into the heart of the GOP machine. He's driven the stake even further into the party's heart - using himself as the stake. Rand Paul still has his father's back in ways that some of you with bad intentions and some of you out of plain ignorance either do not care about or do not care to understand. Ron Paul as a Republican was considered a sell out and a traitor by Libertarians for running as a Republican. Remember that? Turns out they were wrong. Ron Paul did more to advance the cause of Liberty and set the stage for the encirclement and takeover the Republican party than anyone else has ever done. Rand Paul is doing the same from within. An article we recently reviewed for posting on RNN reminded us that we can either storm the walls of a fortress, or have someone open the door from the inside. To get to that level of trust on the other side of the wall, you have to been seen, politically, as one of "them". Rand Paul is opening the door from the inside, just like his Ron Paul did when he left the Libertarian Party and ran as a Republican. Cool off and think logically. Rand's move is brilliant in the long run." - RNN

161803398
10th June 2012, 20:16
My good side says this is despicable. Now millions of Americans will not have a vote and they have been sold out. My bad side says if Mitten is stupid and Rand Paul is Vice President then maybe he would have the capacity to have some influence. On the other hand, I think of Colin Powell who turned into a complete pussy. There's something about Rand Paul's face now - something wrong with it. It's looking quite compromised. Its an invitation to voters to be compromised too. Now I've gone full circle. I don't think people have a vote now.

This might be the modern equivalent of feeding the Christians to the Lions.

spiritguide
11th June 2012, 03:09
@risveglio...... Adam starts his video with the statement of "his theory". The Hannity portion of it was stated facts without denial by both Hannity and Rand. The people that support and defend Ron's Liberty movement will keep that movement moving forward. Constitutionalist abound and liberty will be secured. No need to defend anyone here it's just plain fact that the players in the chess game have changed.

Oh thanks spiritguide. Since Hannity said it and Rand did not deny it, then it must be true. Silly me for not noticing that. Yet in Ron Paul's speech at the Texas Republican convention, he made no mention of not running. In his email to his supporters on Friday where he mentioned that he should have 500 delegates for the convention, no mention of not running and in his statement about the surprise win in Arkansas, again no mention of no longer running. Hmm, I guess we should just trust Hannity instead. The guy whose radio show Ron will not go on because he is intellectually dishonest. Thanks for putting me straight though spiritguide. I guess I should just go and start campaigning for Romney since it is obvious now that Hannity can be trusted. Silly silly me.

What was stated is what was in the video you presented. Not once was there ever a suggestion to abandon anyone or vote for any other person. If you want to make it personal, I'm sorry not biting .

risveglio
11th June 2012, 03:18
No, what was stated was "Ron Paul says he is not in running any more."

I just want to know from you, Alex Jones, Rand Paul, Gerald Celente, or Sean Hanity where this was stated cause I have never heard this stated once. So it has nothing to do with you personally but please someone show me a statement from Ron Paul!