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witchy1
9th June 2012, 00:10
Phages cure bacterial diseases (some reports include cancer) through cell lysis. They are our friend and the most available thing on the planet if you know where to find extract and grow them for curing infections.

They have been used for about 100 years as an alternative to antibiotics in the former Soviet Union and Eastern Europe as well as France. They are successful in treating MRSA and other resistant bacteria.

Commonly called a virus, there is a particular phage for each particular bacteria. They are entirely safe for humans, with many phages living in us already. Phages are found where ever there is bacteria e.g. soil, intestines, sea water (9×108 per millilitre) and up to 70% of marine bacteria may have phages. Since ancient times, there have been documented reports of river waters having the ability to cure infectious diseases, such as leprosy. The Ganges and Yamana rivers in India has many varieties and is reported to have marked antibacterial action against cholera

They have identified over 1000 specific phage that will attack different bacteria – Staph, strep, e-coli, listeria etc….. Once in the body they replicate within minutes after infecting cells and go out to find other bacteria of the same sort. Once there is no more bacteria of that type to infect the simply pass on out. They do not and cannot infect healthy cells. They can only attach to their identified bacteria.
They can be taken via all normal routes (oral and subcut the most common) They have no of side effects, have a visibly rapid effect, do not produce resistance and can be combined with other drugs

This is what they look like.


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A wee bit of history and this may gross you out……..I found a reference to them in an old book I was reading called “Science and Secrets of Early Medicine by Jurgen Thorwald - originally published in German 1962 and translated. This is what started my search

From the book - Page 85 it describes the mud of the Nile and what our enlightened biologists called “sewage pharmacology” used by the ancient Egyptians for eye infections - along with fermented honey. Not until 1948 did Aureomycin (a wonder drug) hit the market – and it was effective against an eye disease called Trachoma. Auromycin is extracted from a soil nearby cemetaries. (my addit: this would be before we started preserving bodies)

It was then described as fungi that had an annihilating effect on some bacteria as did the moulds from which penicillin was derived. Investigations showed that bacteria living in the human body release their excretory products into our waste products, which are rich in antibiotic substances.

The Elbers Papyrus alone contains as many as 55 prescriptions in which waste are components for both internal and external use. They are astonishingly specific in the particular animal and it is now known that each species produces different antibiotic substances and the same is true for soils and mud



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Back to Phage

During the cold war and isolated from Western advances in antibiotic production in the 1940s, Russian scientists continued to develop already successful phage therapy to treat the wounds of soldiers in field hospitals. During ww2 the Soviet Union used bacteriophages to treat many soldiers infected with various bacterial diseases e.g. dysentery and gangrene. Russian researchers continued to develop and to refine their treatments and to publish their research and results. However, due to the scientific barriers of the cold war, this knowledge was not translated and did not proliferate across the world. A summary of these publications has been published recently in English in "A Literature Review of the Practical Application of Bacteriophage Research"

In the 1940’s Ely Lilly was in large production in the States and it was freely available, however FDA took it off the shelves in the 50's although has a GRAS rating and they will allow for animal health. The mad scientists are now genetically modifying it and looks like the US have brought out all the Georgian / Russian Federation businesses (Eliava institute in Tbilisi Georgia will still treat you if you go there) where it was once available to all!

Georgian Academy of Sciences, Tbilisi, Republic of Georgia
In its heyday in the 1970s and 80s, nearly 800 people worked in the Industrial Branch of the Eliava Institute, using enormous vats, pill stampers and automatic bottling machines to pump out tons of phage products for military and civilian uses all over the Soviet Union. Another 200 worked to analyze hundreds of thousands of bacterial samples that continuously poured in at the direction of the Soviet Ministry of Health, testing the phage cocktails for efficacy and constantly isolating new phage and making refinements. They also fought infectious disease in other ways - vaccines, immune enhancers, probiotic bacterial cultures - but phage were their main focus. By then, Institutes and factories in places like Gorki and Ufa were also producing these phage products for Soviet use, but Tbilisi phage were especially prized as far away as Lithuania even in 1990.

More recently:
In August 2006, the FDA approved LMP-102 (now ListShield) as a food additive to target and kill Listeria. LMP-102 was approved for treating ready-to-eat (RTE) poultry and meat products. In October of that year, following the food additive approval of LMP-102 by Intralytix, the FDA approved a product by EBI using bacteriophages on cheese to kill Listeria bacteria, giving them GRAS status. In July 2007, the same bacteriophages were approved for use on all food products.
Read more: http://www.answers.com/topic/bacteriophage#ixzz1pzPFomih (http://www.answers.com/topic/bacteriophage#ixzz1pzPFomih)

Proplems with phages in Food fermentation

The relationship between bacteriophages and their bacterial hosts is very important in the context of the food fermentation industry. Sources of phage contamination, measures to control their propogation and dissemination, and biotechnological defense strategies developed to restrain phages are of interest. The dairy fermentation industry has openly acknowledged the problem of phages and has been working with academia and starter culture companies to develop defense strategies and systems to curtail the propagation and evolution of phages for decades
http://www.answers.com/topic/bacteriophage#ixzz1pzOCW4IC (http://www.answers.com/topic/bacteriophage#ixzz1pzOCW4IC)

Is it available to the public – yes there is one place Delmont Vet practise in the States under the trade name STAPHAGE LYSATE http://www.delmont.com/product.htm (http://www.delmont.com/product.htm)
Can you make it yourself – Yes you can. You can buy kits over the internet and phage - off the shelf for science experiments

·BBC Horizon (1997): The Virus that Cures – Documentary about the history of phage medicine in Russia and the West (http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=8887931967515748990&q)
·NPR Science Friday podcast, "Using 'Phage' Viruses to Help Fight Infection", April 2008 (http://www.sciencefriday.com/program/archives/200804043)

http://www.phagetherapycenter.com/pii/PatientServlet?command=static_home (http://www.phagetherapycenter.com/pii/PatientServlet?command=static_home)
http://www.amazingphage.info/ (http://www.amazingphage.info/)
http://www.phage-biotech.com/ (http://www.phage-biotech.com/)
http://www.mansfield.ohio-state.edu/~sabedon/ (http://www.mansfield.ohio-state.edu/~sabedon/)
http://specialphageservices.com.au/ (http://specialphageservices.com.au/)

List of research papers available if anyone is interested.
If anyone can add to this I would be grateful - specifically where to buy off the shelf or do I have to grow my own??? I have contacted labs in Georgia looking for a "general" one, (they can combine them) and have had no luck. You need to be a vet to order from Delmont!

This could be our future panacea - perhaps another example of hidden in plain sight, there is certainly a plethora of information on the net
(Phages apparently cured Liz Taylor of pneumonia and no doubt many others)
W
(PS - I had this tucked away on the science forum, but thought I would bring it over here for everyone to see http://projectavalon.net/forum4/group.php?discussionid=388&do=discuss)

watchZEITGEISTnow
9th June 2012, 00:19
...and all along I thought Phage was a multi-task force of cabal counter intelligence that would have the operations of about 5-10 people...but I digress...

You know what the 1st thing (apart from that) I thought they reminded me of? Cannabinoids - The crystals (resin glands) on cannabis (THC/CBD) That also have many many helpful ways...
http://ncsm.nl/cfsystem/userData/images/originals/1318173067__image__trichome.png
Actually again, that also looks like a mushroom - as do resin glands.... interesting :)

Bo Atkinson
9th June 2012, 00:46
What comes to mind is a diet and workday based upon a very healthy garden ecosystem.
http://harmoniouspalette.com/WetSoilSprin2012.jpg\
I liked Steiners book Agriculture, way back. Build the soil organically, with added soil cultures, the olde way. This adds so many micro organisms. Birds bring more too. My nature is not really a gardener's way, but one can't always get what one wants. Get what you need? Try, anyway.

Humans were driven away from rural habitation. Driven into city treadmills. Perhaps some could find a degree of well being. i lived in NYC for a couple years, but it was hard.

Today there is the wearable mp3 player, no phones needed, hands free to work at many things. Great exercise as well. I listened to Alien Mind, the book, most of the day. Go over a bit more tomorrow. Great read there too.

Bo Atkinson
9th June 2012, 00:59
just found a quick source for "macrophage"

Is it the right or the wrong sort?

http://www.gnhealthyliving.com/scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=322

Listed as an ingredient and have heard Gary mention these on his show

witchy1
9th June 2012, 01:23
Hi Wavydome, this lists garlic and aloe ginger onion and cayenne - couldnt see macrophage. Perhaps if they were grown near somewhere icky????

By icky I mean old sewage places or old cemetaries. (not new ones due to the preservatives)

Sorry, read it again it states: Garlic is known to stimulate T-lymphocyte and macrophage action. Macrophage are our own white blood cells and are phagocytes (eat other things like bacteria, dead cells etc) so no, not the same thing - Cheers for looking

WZN - what? :o struggling to see the similarity between those weird phallus and phage..... :rofl:

Bo Atkinson
9th June 2012, 01:34
Ya, that is is interesting... i googled it and indeed the word is there on that page.... Garlic and onion are sulfurous, as sewage is sometimes described. There is so much academia (controlled by big money), has yet to document, even about the simpler things.

from the linked page:

"One of garlic’s most potent health benefits includes the ability to enhance the body’s immune cell activity. Garlic is known to stimulate T-lymphocyte and macrophage action, promote interleukin-1 levels, and support natural killer cells. Strong activity of these key cells promotes healthy immune system function, and strengthens the body's defenses."

Which comes back the garden....

We live on a planet with a bio-cycling system, which humanity has an aversion to, apparently.

Having read that book today i wonder... Would ETs be wondering how distorted human health practice is? They can't even bear to eat garlic, for good health?

witchy1
9th June 2012, 01:41
wavydome, our posts crossed - i fixed up mine :-)

Bo Atkinson
9th June 2012, 01:43
witchy, good man, did you get your garlic today?

wavy

Arrowwind
10th June 2012, 05:11
Phage therapy is available in only once clinic in the USA that I am aware of .. The Wound Care Center in Lubbock Texas. www.woundcarecenter.net (http://www.woundcarecenter.net) It can cure advanced MRSA infections that are requiring amputation. I hope most of the following links still work.

but really, this therapy is not really needed for serious infection when ozone therapy can take care of these issues... and ozone therapy is not too hard to find these days.

MRSA and Phage Therapy

9th April 2007 by Arrow Durfee Posted in Disease (http://www.healthsalon.org/category/disease/), Drug/Vaccine Info (http://www.healthsalon.org/category/drugvaccine-info/), Infections (http://www.healthsalon.org/category/infections/)
There are cures for MRSA. Here are links to information to phage therapy. So far I have only been able to find one clinic in the US that does phage therapy, located in Lubbock, Texas. Not the most fun town to visit but maybe not so important if its going to save your life or limb….please scroll down in this infections thread and also read about ozone therapy for MRSA.
www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/09/19/48hours/main522596.shtml (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/09/19/48hours/main522596.shtml)
www.evergreen.edu/phage/addendum.htm (http://www.evergreen.edu/phage/addendum.htm)
www.phages.org/main.html (http://www.phages.org/main.html) forum
sanjose.bizjournals.com/sanjose/stories/2007/01/08/story4.html (http://sanjose.bizjournals.com/sanjose/stories/2007/01/08/story4.html)
www.woundcarecenter.net (http://www.woundcarecenter.net/) they use to have info on the site about phage therapy but not today. I called the clinic and they are still doing phage therapy. The nurse could not say why it was not on the website any longer.
www.phagetherapycenter.com/pii/PatientServlet?command=static_home (http://www.phagetherapycenter.com/pii/PatientServlet?command=static_home)
They state that there is a plan for a phage therapy clinic in Mexico, awaiting government approval.
www.phages.org/PhageInfo.html (http://www.phages.org/PhageInfo.html)
www.usatoday.com/news/health/2006-05-10-superbugs-staphylococcus_x.htm?POE=NEWISVA (http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2006-05-10-superbugs-staphylococcus_x.htm?POE=NEWISVA)

grapevine
24th July 2024, 10:08
:bump::bump:
How a Long-Forgotten Treatment Is Curing People of Superbug Infections

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDeJMi0mJRA&ab_channel=UpworthyScience (7:32)

I thought this story was worth bumping the thread, especially as by 2050 (unlikely we'll all still be here but hey, you never know . . .) it's estimated that 10m people every year will be dying from antibiotic-resistant superbugs.

Steffanie Strathdee is an Epidemiologist and Associate Dean of Global Health Services at the University of San Diego, California who, when her husband was in a coma, dying from an antibiotic resistant Superbug, started researching Phages, with amazing results.

The above video was posted 4 years ago, so here's another, fairly short, video giving more up to date information on the very important development of Phages.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2i7T3Eoha0&ab_channel=ScienceCommunicationLab

Mike Gorman
24th July 2024, 10:30
I am a huge fan of Garlic, I like to cook and eat a large range of food items - and yes I eat meat: Oxtail/Beef/Chicken/ - I enjoy my dinners! Garlic and onion is incredibly good for you. I don't tell people what they must eat or avoid, I disbelieve that any human being could be 'allergic' to Gluten, we have been eating the stuff for too many thousands of years to number, but people persist with their weird ideas and what they consider harmful to their digestion - Go right ahead, I shall continue to eat everything Mother Earth provides, I just find this modern compulsion with allergies to be very strange. Garlic is wonderful.