DEEPAK CHOPRA "Revisited" rebooting focus

[ljwheat]

Revisited -- rebooting focus -- The continuity of vision seeing the physical world, is information shaped by the thoughts we entertain the most.

Memory classes all over the world, use a basic premise or tool to focus the brain in ones desire to remember information on any subject or topic, skill or skills are fundamental exercises in imprinting threw repetition.

Stating, writing, voicing, listening, repeating anything 5 times. Will burn the information permanently onto storage plates of the mind, if revisited enough each day - - it then becomes habit, or a religion,a way of life or belief. How dose one get to Carnegie Hall,- practice, -practice,- practice, 5 times then every day another 5 times till - - “once you get it.”--- then you can refresh this memory or act,-- occasionally revisiting to maintain its value. But to become the best of the best.- A pro. -Expert.- Olympiad. -Physicist. this practice is carryed out 5 time then 5 times a day till perfection is reached.

We become what we ingest physically or mentally.

This also works for those who just cant quite get it. And threw reputation, something clicks in the head, and then suddenly we wonder why we didn’t see it before. This happens a lot in schools all over the world in the area of mathematics’ for example. But this apple’s to every thing we do in life, in varying degree’s.

Since most of use know and are awake to the organism of human life we have been systematically brain washed from birth to believe what this planet we came to,-- as being wholesome and truthful,-- in the information dominate in our schools --of domestications (Slavery‘s).

Cutting threw this domestication block of information we were handed as fact, is to immures ourselves in what has not been brought forward by our controller’s -- having so well used against us.

One pass threw this information Deepak Chopra is presenting. Is like reading a good magazine, but soon forgotten, and not practiced. The more time’s you listen to this understanding it will click, Even I thought I got it the first time, but using this memory tool of repeating the exposure to this information again and again, the correlation of domesticated mind loosened up enough to get it.

Pride in holding onto the domesticated mind will stop one from listening to this more than once, or the EGO will poo poo it and say I already know this and go no further.
Or look at the messenger and disregard the message, what ever the case, and I have done this as well, we must get past this domestication (prison) of pride and EGO and listening to this video 5 times. this was done to us in school and we hated doing it. Before posting a comment or truth, on this thread, this memory tool, used correctly will change your resonance to one of bliss, and understanding. I would love to here from those who are swimming in this kind of information, like Deepak Chopra mentioned there are some who have devoted all there life studying this topic. ON and Off -- the off or space between two words is endless possibilities, with out the off - (space) the on of awareness makes no sense. John XXX revisit if you like, or ingest it as i have, and stick around for a desusion in what we realy are all about. other wise thanks for listening. And have a great day.:drum:

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Supporting, Calibrating, evidence with John wheeler, “Notation here;” this is not the John Wheeler Mr. Deepak was referring to in the video, -- none the less was a great synchronistic find as it fits so well with the topic at hand.

John


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Knowing that what we are is already here, turning to see the silent watcher,-- watching me watch what I am. The answer is not in the mind. it’s the feeling of the heart that what is there-- me -- is the watcher, timeless, spaceless, all knowing already here now and always has been, always. John

“Notation here;” this is not the John Wheeler Mr. Deepak was referring to in the video, -- none the less was a great synchronistic find as it fits so well with the topic at hand.

John

[ljwheat]

Neurobiology
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuroplasticity

One of the fundamental principles of how neuroplasticity functions is linked to the concept of synaptic pruning, the idea that individual connections within the brain are constantly being removed or recreated, largely dependent upon how they are used. This concept is captured in the aphorism, "neurons that fire together, wire together"/"neurons that fire apart, wire apart." If there are two nearby neurons that often produce an impulse simultaneously, their cortical maps may become one. This idea also works in the opposite way, i.e. that neurons which do not regularly produce simultaneous impulses will form different maps.

Society, parents passing on there preprogrammed brain maps from schools, city, county, state, nation code enforcement in education and behavior in a structured bubble. Like watching TV one country watches one channel while we watch a completely different channel are lead into institutionalization in that channel of life.

Religions are the biggest brain traps man has devised in controlling how we deal with each other’s personal energies. This monkey see monkey do, learning in the cage we were born and raised up in. the jail cell of the mind didn’t have much choice in its development, in factuality its pretty much one sided. Awakening or jumping out of the box we were force into believing is a war on information, and holding our attention on the thinking that keep us from finding out thousands of years of preconditioning code enforcements were summarily passed on and amplified on. Keeping us distracted from our core awareness, those who have ventured into opening up this awareness to the masses have in the large part been killed, or ridiculed into silence, book burnings. To erase it from the past or injected with half truth as much as possible, distracters, in holy writings, flipping the meanings, or down right exaggerations leading thoughts into area’s of disinformation and worse. All in the effort to keep one off topic or hide the topic altogether.

Symbiotic knowledge of all things are energy and the gaps between on and off that gives rise to solidity, has been suppressed by the powerful few in the past and is strong and well today. They have only used more devises of distraction in all area’s of keeping the mind from looking at the silent watcher that resides in us all.

So they continue to create diversions, delusions of interest in the opposite direction (more stuff in the physical, more things to do, see, play with--- all in the attempt to keep the awareness away from inner awareness and self empowerment. This video, and its message breaks that bond with all this stuff out here we are all caught up in.

Just throw a little dought or fear with a little bit of disinformation into the fabric of life - mission accomplished. Consumerism and surrounding ourselves with stuff or objects of interest, or gadgets -- - - once caught in that trap of distraction, living the life of a monk, or sage would be viewed as insane in western culture living.

So buying into the deceptions and I have no time to be bothered with this concept of living it takes a back seat to excitement and doing things -- just so not to be board to death.
Being awake and still holding all this stuff we think we need in our lives is still a hug distraction. We are still just to plugged into technology to break away cleanly.

But playing this video over and over helps to neutralize some of the effects long enough to catch a good healthy breath of fresh air. IMO. John XXX

[Carmen]

Ah, this is of great interest to me at the moment. This is about the wrapping of myelin round the the neurone in the brain. The more we practice something, the more myelin is wrapped and a fast, 'broadband' is produced. In other words the action becomes automatic habit. I'm reading a book called 'The Talent Code', and this myelin wrapping is explained in detail. It's fascinating, explains places in the world where world beating talent is produced, the how and why of it. I'll go and look at the videos now.

[DeDukshyn]

Ah, this is of great interest to me at the moment. This is about the wrapping of myelin round the the neurone in the brain. The more we practice something, the more myelin is wrapped and a fast, 'broadband' is produced. In other words the action becomes automatic habit. I'm reading a book called 'The Talent Code', and this myelin wrapping is explained in detail. It's fascinating, explains places in the world where world beating talent is produced, the how and why of it. I'll go and look at the videos now.

I see this as "software becomes hardware" in the brain. People think that a brain "thinks". A brain just translates higher frequency energy into lower frequency constructs, and will mirror the process as "hardware" after what we call "learning" or "training" - the brain is actually just trying to be 'less cumbersome" in my view. Unfortunately this also has the the downside of being a vulnerability, depending on the "training" or "learning" being done.

Deepak is good stuff, while I find him a tad boring of a read, his vision, knowledge and education on so many things is just unsurpassed.

[Carmen]

Sorry, I was a bit off topic with my post, but it did relate! What a great couple of videos! Excellent, thank you for posting them.

[ljwheat]

Here is a video that plays around with the mechanic’s of time line synchronicity and how powerful we are.

Intention on what we prefer to hold in that intention as with the sunglasses http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?45466-BASHAR-2012-Many-Earths-Conundrum-We-Individually-choose&p=496894&viewfull=1#post496894 both parties held powerful intention at the quantum level. A question arises in why didn’t RV (remote Viewing) foil seeing the other’s time line? The following information may shed light on this question.


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[ulli]

Bumping your thread. Great videos.

[Carmen]

This movie on quantum communication looks fascinating. I'll be watching it tonight. Thanks for posting it. As a little girl I always wanted to 'marry up' (and that's the best description for me) creation and evolution!! I am soo priveliged, (spelling!) to be living in an era now that this is happening.

[RunningDeer]

Hello ljwheat, I'm only a little over an hour into the vid, I just had to stop to say, "Oh, wow!" and "Thanks". There's something for everyone.
And now back to the movie... :popcorn:


Here is a video that plays around with the mechanic’s of time line synchronicity and how powerful we are.

Intention on what we prefer to hold in that intention as with the sunglasses http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?45466-BASHAR-2012-Many-Earths-Conundrum-We-Individually-choose&p=496894&viewfull=1#post496894 both parties held powerful intention at the quantum level. A question arises in why didn’t RV (remote Viewing) foil seeing the other’s time line? The following information may shed light on this question.


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[DeDukshyn]

Just needed to bump this ... Really, everyone, and I mean everyone, should watch at least the first video in the OP. If not a reminder for those well researched, a better understanding of the actual reality around us. To understand the illusion we call reality, so we may prioritize our decisions, based not on the illusion. Once one learns to be able to know distinct between the illusion and reality, one cannot be so easily manipulated by others, as the "importance" of everything that drives that control, shifts. My 2 cents ;)

[ljwheat]

Just needed to bump this ... Really, everyone, and I mean everyone, should watch at least the first video in the OP. If not a reminder for those well researched, a better understanding of the actual reality around us. To understand the illusion we call reality, so we may prioritize our decisions, based not on the illusion. Once one learns to be able to know distinct between the illusion and reality, one cannot be so easily manipulated by others, as the "importance" of everything that drives that control, shifts. My 2 cents ;)

DeDukshyn: this really puts a big grin on my face. The movie Matrix in the hallway when this_-_ seeing the photon cloud when physicality was reveled as streaming energy.

With this sight you enter that space of the matrix as an equal, able to interact with it at will. This is the reason I took the time to explain about listening to this video more than once. Neo didn’t get it at first either. Consumerism, and focus on stuff is the distraction in place that blind even the awakened. GOOD one DeDukshyn. John xxx :clap2:

[DeDukshyn]

Some things are easy to forget in this distraction filled world (reminders are always good). Personally, I've been out of touch lately and demanded myself to get back on track ... it got done, in the usual "less comfortable" way, ... my status ... not 100% accurate all the time ;) Thanks for the note and this thread ;)

BTW .. The Matrix .. Perfect analogy. ;)

[ljwheat]

Ah, this is of great interest to me at the moment. This is about the wrapping of myelin round the the neurone in the brain. The more we practice something, the more myelin is wrapped and a fast, 'broadband' is produced. In other words the action becomes automatic habit. I'm reading a book called 'The Talent Code', and this myelin wrapping is explained in detail. It's fascinating, explains places in the world where world beating talent is produced, the how and why of it. I'll go and look at the videos now.

Carmen, In hindsight I remember the correlation of myelin the wizard is a label for one who is, has, and will be the teacher of the awakening - looking into what is not- will arise yet again threw out time till its received anew. Timeless insight-- here is the next step, as the past steps into the Now becomes the future is seen in this next video. “Way of the Wizard” - If your now intouch with OP streaming energy soup of Consciousness? John xxx


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[songsfortheotherkind]

Revisited -- rebooting focus -- The continuity of vision seeing the physical world, is information shaped by the thoughts we entertain the most.

Thanks so much for this great information and these great vids, John- this is wonderful stuff. :)

[RunningDeer]

This is a transcript of “Five Attributes of the Discontinuity,“ which begins at 4:00 minutes on the vid. (Thank you for being okay with mistakes.)


“Literally reinvent your body. Choose evolution over atrophy.”

“You have access to unlimited imagination and creativity because in the discontinuity is the field of infinite possibilities.”



http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ttwVRNlXPoI

#1 - There’s no energy, there is no information, there is no space-time, and there are no objects. So what’s there? And the best answer science can give you is there are infinite possibilities. There are super positions of waves of possibilities. So the discontinuity is the immeasurable potential for energy, information and space-time in what we call matter. Matter does not exist out there. Matter is in our consciousness. Without consciousness, it remains a radically ambiguous and ceaselessly flowing quantum soup.

#2 - It’s infinitely correlated. It correlates everything. The technical word for this is called “entanglement”. Everything is entangled with everything, and it’s all at once. So in nature, things don’t happen one at a time. Everything happens all at once. The human body for example, which is a biological organism, but all biological organisms are part of nature itself. Now planet Earth is thought to be a biological organism everything happens all at once and everything is correlated with everything else.

The human body, for example, has a hundred trillion cells which is more than all the stars in the Milky Way Galaxy. Each cell performs a 100,000 activities every second. And every cell instantly knows, tracks the activity of every other cell and correlates it. How does the human body think thoughts, play a piano, care? Jones?, remove toxins, and make a baby all that the same time? And while your body can do that, it tracks the movement of stars and planets because your biological rhythms are the symphony of the whole Universe. So non-local correlation is actually a technical mathematical term for omniscience, omnipresence, omnipotence. Everything happening all at once, everything correlated with everything, all at once.

#3 - It proliferates with uncertainty. You cannot compute the laws of nature at the most fundamental level. Einstein who was very uncomfortable at first with uncertainty when he said, “I don’t believe that God would play dice with the Universe,” later on went on to say, “And so far as the laws of natures are real, they are uncertain. And so far as they are uncertain, they are not real.” Which means that at a certain level nature precludes you from understanding it rationally or mathematically.

#4 - “Quantum leaps” where subatomic particles move from one location to a new location without going through the space in between. So if you watch the movie “Star Track”, the television program where the captain says, “Beam me up, Scotty.” Scotty presses a button, captain disappears here, goes up into another dimension of space-time, without going through the space in between.

#5 - Observer effect which according to John Wheeler, who just died last year at the age of ninety-seven, and he along with some other scientist about 40-50 years ago said, “The physical universe does not exist unless the conscious being is looking at it.” So if you weren’t looking at the universe, it would remain a vibration, or some sentient beingness, unit of sentience was not looking.

Okay, enough of the technical stuff. These attributes are the attributes of your own consciousness. And the reason why no one can find it, first of all, is a subjective experience, but secondly, it doesn’t exist in space-time. Where are you experiencing space-time right now? Where are you experiencing space? In your consciousness, but your consciousness is spaceless. Where are you experiencing time, right now? In your consciousness, but your consciousness itself is timeless. Now again, if you read the Bhagavad Gita, “Water cannot wet it, wind cannot dry it, weapons cannot cleave it, fire cannot burn it. It’s ancient. It’s unborn. And it doesn’t die. So your consciousness, which is spaceless, timeless, dimensionless, give rise to space-time dimensionality. Everything that we call real, including your body. Now, if you totally get this, okay? - that our bodies experience and created in consciousness, then where can it be transformed? At what level? In consciousness. If it’s created in consciousness then you can only transform it in consciousness.

Okay? So on the basis of this and the basis on some really good science, I came up in this book with five breakthroughs for the body and five breakthroughs for the soul. And then the last part of the book is 10 steps to wholeness. But lets just look at the five breakthroughs for the body.


"Five Breakthroughs for the Body"

#1 - First breakthrough is that your body is not a structure. That’s a perceptual lie. Our senses don’t tell the truth. Our senses tell us that the world if flat. No body believes that anymore. The senses tells you that this ground that you are standing on is stationary and we know it’s spinning at dizzying speeds and hurtling through space at thousands of miles per hour. And then senses tells us our bodies are anatomical, they are NOT. Our bodies are a process in consciousness. And in fact, your body recycles itself once a year. 98% of all the atoms in your body recycle one a year. It’s a process in conscious. And the process of course through eating, breathing, digestion, metabolism, elimination, thoughts, feeling, emotions, memory, imagination, creativity, elimination, all of that. But there’s a process going on. And it’s not a fixed process. So today, we know that there’s a term that’s being used a lot in science, “neuronal plasticity”, which means you can train your mind to change the structure of your brain. Because your brain is not essentially a structure, it’s a process. Okay, again, there’s lots of studies of Buddhist monks that can change the size of their brain, who can change body temperature, who can influence autonomic? function, who can cause the secretion of neuropeptides, all kinds of things through meditations, on contemplative meditations or what the Buddhist call loving, kindness, compassion, joy, profound peace, equanimity. Because these practices allow you to go beyond your personal self into your transpersonal self.

So your brain is not fixed, nor are your genes fixed. And that is a revolutionary finding that comes from here. Dr. Dean Ornish is one of these scientists that is part of the study that was published in the “National Academy of Sciences,” that within three months of changing your lifestyle, and certain mental practices; stress management, meditation, Yoga, breathing, diet, and exercise. You can actually change the expression of 500 genes that call for things like: heart disease, diabetes, type-2 diabetes, inflammation, obesity, and even certain types of cancer.

As I said, the study was published, and now there’s a lot of interest in what is called “epigenetics”. How do factors independent of the genes regular the genes? Major breakthrough. Now you have to think for just a second, that your genes are in every cell of your body. So every cell of your body has a nucleus and there’s DNA inside that and genes are a part of the DNA. And you can influence these genes. Think of genes as nano computers. Think of genes as quantum computers that along with the epigenes are regulating a hundred trillion cells, preforming a hundred thousand activities, every second. And you can influence that. So that’s the first breakthrough based on solid science.

#2 Second breakthrough in the body is that your body is an energy field and an information field. Even though we think of it as a molecular field, it’s biological, it’s an energy field. Really. If somebody gets the information that you have a lot of money in the stock market, and it’s all your retirement money and suddenly the stock market collapses, that one bit on information immediately changes biological information in your body. Right? So information whether it comes from the outside, or generated inside...you know, like if someone tells you that your wife is having an affair... that’ll change your information, your biological information right away. Your blood pressure will go up, your heart rate will go up, your cortisol will go up.

So information, whether it’s generated internal or it’s generated from the outside, will change your body. So we have to start thinking of the body...in biology...the technologies of information of energies which we take for granted everywhere else, have not crept into the scientific way of thinking about the body. But if you can start to treat your body...and this is what the Yogis did by the way...they experienced their astral body. What does the word astral body mean? Coming from the stars because it is made out of photons ultimately. Photons are the raw material. And you can learn to experience your body as a light body that is nourished by photons. And again, ancient wisdom but very modern understanding.

#3 Third breakthrough is that you can change your experience of time. What is time? Has any body actually seen time? Time is a thing in consciousness, too. You know how people say all the time, “I’m running out of time. I have 10 DEAD lines.” What a terrible word by the way, DEAD LINES. Okay, so when people have that internal dialogue, “I’m running out of time,” their biological clock speeds up. They have fast heart rate, jittery platelets, high levels of adrenaline, higher blood pressure, and suddenly you drop dead of a heart attack...they have run out of time. Or time is the internal dialogue...

Vid #2 - first four minutes includes the rest of the lecture, the last 11 minutes are for Q&A.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=KpSsgxct2hI

#3 Third breakthrough ... continued.

What separates the observer from the observed? It’s the measurement of experience. You’ll learn a lot more about it in the book. You can shift how you experience time internally. You know how somebody says, “The beauty of the mountain was breathtaking. Time stood still.” Or when you fell in love. Time doesn’t exist. So when you metabolize...there’s a part of you that is timeless.

Okay? So right now, in fact, as you are listening to me now, turn your attention to who’s listening. So as you are listening to me, be aware of who’s listening. If you feel a still presence, that’s your Soul. So now turn your attention to who’s listening. So as you are listening to me, be aware of who’s listening. If you feel a still presence, that’s your soul. It’s not your mind who’s saying, “Geez, I wished I had gone to the bathroom before the lecture. Your mind is a conversation that happens in that awareness. And that awareness is timeless. It was there when you were a baby. Different body, different mind, different emotions, but that presence was there.

So everything comes and goes. Everything comes and goes in that presence. And once again the Great Wisdom traditions say, “Hold on to that. It’s the only part of you that is real.” The rest as the Buddha said is a phantom, a dream that comes and goes. And so that’s the third breakthrough. You can change your experience of time.

#4 The fourth breakthrough, I’ve already mentioned that you can change your expression of your genes. Just like you can change your brain.

#5 The fifth breakthrough, you can always use your awareness to do this because awareness is the key. The quality of your intention, and the qualities of your intention. Now, I’ve tried to say a lot in a short amount of time, but you’ll find a lot of interesting exercises to do this. Because when I say reinvent your body, I mean it literally. I am 63 today, and I am reinventing my body. And I am inviting you to do the same. Okay? So you cannot do it though, other than being in touch with your soul. With your core consciousness. And just like there are 5 breakthroughs in the body, there are 5 breakthroughs about the soul.


"Five Breakthroughs of the Soul"

So the five breakthroughs of the Soul is when you are in touch with this core consciousness, then your life is:

First breakthrough is one of effortless spontaneity. Which means you should wake up every day and ask yourself only three questions: Is it fun? Is it easy? Am I getting results? And if you can’t say “yes” to all three, then you are not in touch with Soul, period.

Second breakthrough of the Soul is when you are in touch with your Soul you spontaneously feel joy, love, compassion, kind[ness], because you are connected to all of life. It’s not an effort. It’s who you are.

Third breakthrough of the Soul is that you have access to unlimited imagination and creativity. Because in the discontinuity is the field of infinite possibilities.

Fourth breakthrough of the Soul, you experience what all religions traditions call the “State of Grace”. Or in psychological terms it’s called, “Synchronicity”, meaningful coincidences.

Fifth breakthrough of the Soul or the core consciousness is that you recognize what the power of intention is. What we in the ancient Indian traditions call “Sung Cult”? Subtle actions, subtle intentions. And you choose evolution over atrophy.

[ljwheat]

Fundamental premise in science = The accentual nature of the physical world is that, it is not physical. The accentual nature of the material world is that its not, material. The accentual stuff of the universe is none stuff. Everything is subatomic particles, vibrating so fast our minds can not see or grasp the endless spaces between each vibration going on and off. Between each ON - there is an off. At blurring speeds our minds leave out the off. And we only see or perceive the constant elusions of the ON. Looking threw "stuff" as if it were invisible, yet with the outline of its references or foot print. Like picking up a solid steel ball that ways twenty pounds, but if this same steel ball were mad of honey comb spaces in side that you couldn’t see. It would only way a couple ounces. Learning to look at stuff in this manner as non stuff, as only a goast of its self. It would seam is now our quest. A way of looking at the "Off" that gives the "On" life. A tall order when, threw out our lives, 100% has been devoted to the "ON" switch a very long time indeed. John xxx

[ljwheat]

Just a friendly bump here for those who have been busy elsewhere, and may have missed this important remembering of who and what our existence consists of.

Thank You WhiteCrowBlackEeer for your work in transcribing the OP video into bite size gem’s. I’ve printed out a few of them as daily reminders or little alarm clocks I’ve placed along frequented paths of my day.

Staying awaken on a planet that’s set up to keep one asleep, is dauntingly difficult endeavor, if anyone has ever been under in a surgery of any kind and coming out of the effects of anesthesia is a similar example of trying your best to wake up, it feels like some one or something is shutting everything from with in is pulling you backward into a deep pit and you simple haven’t the strength to maintain your hold on awareness.

Devouring these bite sized gem’s give me the energy to help maintain my Barings in a very dark and disorienting world of slumber. So a bump for those who haven’t commented yet. John xxx

[RunningDeer]

:bump:I'm bumping this as my way of saying thanks, ljwheat.

Your commitment to assist everyone to awaken is amazing. :first:

Just how do you manage to find these vids? I think you've got special powers that allow you access to the YouTube matrix. :drum:

[Fred Steeves]

No rotten tomatos please, but as far as I'm concerned Deepok is nothing but a schill, bought and paid for, whether knowingly or not. Yes he can say some very wonderful things, but what the man says, and what the man does, are two very different animals.

Sorry...

Cheers,
Fred

[DeDukshyn]

No rotten tomatos please, but as far as I'm concerned Deepok is nothing but a schill, bought and paid for, whether knowingly or not. Yes he can say some very wonderful things, but what the man says, and what the man does, are two very different animals.

Sorry...

Cheers,
Fred

You don't have to like it ;-) Thanks for your personal opinion Fred. I personally try not judge messengers, but rather take their message and research it, compare it, analyze it, until it is either mine, or discarded. Try not to shoot the messenger. ;-)


While I'm here:

I found this little, very metaphorical (don't try to understand this literally, lol) tidbit on "the present moment ..." (it was actually in my windows clipboard and I accidently hit the paste button while responding to Fred ... I don't believe in accidents that much so here it is!)


"Can you see more clearly now why it is essential in
these closing years of the cycle to release your interpretations?
They belong to the past. And Life exists eternally
in the present. You were intended to share in this eternal
Life. But to do so, you must release identification with
the past, release identification with the material
garments you wear, and accept the creative definition
that Life gives to you in this present moment.


What doyou call Satan? His body is the past, his breath, the
future. Energized by your past-oriented guilt and your
future-oriented fear, he follows you around like some vast
cosmic shadow. He casts his nets of fear on the waters of
your awareness, then draws them with ropes of reason,
back into a guilt-ridden past.


For the sake of illustration, your presence could be
compared to an inflatable membrane, designed to be filled to
the full with the energy and power of Life. Like two enormous
rips in the side, guilt and fear allow the precious
life-substance to escape, leaving you withered, ineffectual
and short-lived, all the' while, using your own life
substance to energize everything that you fear.


It is easy to reverse the situation. Let yourself die to
the past and wake up in the present moment. Why should
you hesitate? Are your past experiences really comprehensive
enough to provide a basis for understanding
everything you encounter in the present? Do they truly
deserve the authority and credibility that you give them?
How attentive were you to all the factors that were present
in the moment of their occurrence? If you are preoccupied
with "experience", how attentive will you be to
what is occurring in the moment? Where is your attention
now?"

[Ba-ba-Ra]

No rotten tomatos please, but as far as I'm concerned Deepok is nothing but a schill, bought and paid for, whether knowingly or not. Yes he can say some very wonderful things, but what the man says, and what the man does, are two very different animals.

Sorry...

Cheers,
Fred

Firstly, don't confuse the message with the messenger. If it's good information, that's the important thing.

Secondly, to make a vague negative inference or judgment about someone, is IMO simply lacking in integrity.

Thirdly, Chopra never claims he is a saint. In fact he states in the video that we all have both positive and negative aspects of self and that to be real, we should embrace both.

[ljwheat]

:bump:I'm bumping this as my way of saying thanks, ljwheat.

Your commitment to assist everyone to awaken is amazing. :first:

Just how do you manage to find these vids? I think you've got special powers that allow you access to the YouTube matrix. :drum:

To answer your question, I’ve always thought everyone thought about stuff, learned stuff, like I do, so never had to much to say, thinking well they already know this and left it at that. Everything in life I’ve come in contact with, I’ve entered that subject, topic, teaching, or documentary, class, like entering a room I record everything that’s in that room like a sponge, before leaving out the other end marked “EXIT” as a walking talking encyclopedia, taking all that data piecing it all together and throwing out what doesn’t fit has been a life long quest, similar to David Wilcock with out the notoriety or egoic fame people have layered on him over the year’s. mastering anything I come in contact with storing the knowledge and moving on to the next magazine in life. I the really love analogies as the glue that holds and validates all the connectedness that surrounds us all.

And most of it is in plain sight, the ability to look behind the Curtin, or back engineer everything I look at came very early in my life, self taught like Edison’s 2,000 battery’s before he came across 2,001-- that worked. And said when asked what it felt like to have so many failures. No NO, “now” I know how to make 2,000 battery’s that don’t work. That knowledge is priceless.

Its not the knowledge that counts, its all about how it fits together. We know how 2,000 society’s don’t work, and like Edison we are searching for that one society that fits.

OP premise this knowledge if taught in schools instead of all this dumbing down, everyone else is better or smarter academic’s in consumerism education support frame work has to go. Exams are only to see if you are conforming to there brain washing slave programming software vaccinations keeping everyone focused on the matrix.

Going back stage so to speak at one of David Copperfield magic shows, the “matrix of life” is what all this secret society stuff is all about. You must not find out how all this stuff works. Church, school, consumerism, corporate mafia rule. Exposing any of it--- people die and it go’s away. I am just one of the jury and have listened to all the testimony in life around me and have reached a verdict just like David Wilcock and many other juror’s we’ve been out for many eon’s now the jury is coming back in. and the verdict is now being read out loud in public court.

All of us have this part to play we must choose to be a witness, juror, or victim. If we are not part of the cure, then we are part of the problem. All I can tell you is before Avalon I was a silent professional student, into anything I didn’t know. Still am, but now just voice erus with a big grinn. :cool: John xxx

[Delight]

No rotten tomatos please, but as far as I'm concerned Deepok is nothing but a schill, bought and paid for, whether knowingly or not. Yes he can say some very wonderful things, but what the man says, and what the man does, are two very different animals.

Sorry...

Cheers,
Fred

You don't have to like it ;-) Thanks for your personal opinion Fred. I personally do not judge messengers, but rather take their message and research it, compare it, analyze it, until it is either mine, or discarded. Try not to shoot the messenger. ;-)


While I'm here:

I found this little very metaphorical (don't try to understand this literally, lol) tidbit on "the present moment ..." (it was actually in my windows clipboard and I accidently hit the paste button while responding to Fred ... I don't believe in accidents that much so here it is!)


"Can you see more clearly now why it is essential in
these closing years of the cycle to release your interpretations?
They belong to the past. And Life exists eternally
in the present. You were intended to share in this eternal
Life. But to do so, you must release identification with
the past, release identification with the material
garments you wear, and accept the creative definition
that Life gives to you in this present moment.


What doyou call Satan? His body is the past, his breath, the
future. Energized by your past-oriented guilt and your
future-oriented fear, he follows you around like some vast
cosmic shadow. He casts his nets of fear on the waters of
your awareness, then draws them with ropes of reason,
back into a guilt-ridden past.


For the sake of illustration, your presence could be
compared to an inflatable membrane, designed to be filled to
the full with the energy and power of Life. Like two enormous
rips in the side, guilt and fear allow the precious
life-substance to escape, leaving you withered, ineffectual
and short-lived, all the' while, using your own life
substance to energize everything that you fear.


It is easy to reverse the situation. Let yourself die to
the past and wake up in the present moment. Why should
you hesitate? Are your past experiences really comprehensive
enough to provide a basis for understanding
everything you encounter in the present? Do they truly
deserve the authority and credibility that you give them?
How attentive were you to all the factors that were present
in the moment of their occurrence? If you are preoccupied
with "experience", how attentive will you be to
what is occurring in the moment? Where is your attention
now?"

For This quote and The videos and white crow black deers transcription....thanks....

[ljwheat]

No rotten tomatos please, but as far as I'm concerned Deepok is nothing but a schill, bought and paid for, whether knowingly or not. Yes he can say some very wonderful things, but what the man says, and what the man does, are two very different animals.

Sorry...

Cheers,
Fred

Firstly, don't confuse the message with the messenger. If it's good information, that's the important thing.

Secondly, to make a vague negative inference or judgment about someone, is IMO simply lacking in integrity.

Thirdly, Chopra never claims he is a saint. In fact he states in the video that we all have both positive and negative aspects of self and that to be real, we should embrace both.

Like a rock in the stream, or a boat ridding above it. Even better to remember one place as a drop of water in the stream. When in Rome, or urinating on a electric fence, nothing will wake you up quicker than stepping on a land mine. Leaning with the wind you never fall down. I ate all the tomato’s on a sandwich for lunch --- sorry. John xxx LOL

[RunningDeer]

:bump:I'm bumping this as my way of saying thanks, ljwheat.

Your commitment to assist everyone to awaken is amazing. :first:

Just how do you manage to find these vids? I think you've got special powers that allow you access to the YouTube matrix. :drum:

To answer your question, I’ve always thought everyone thought about stuff, learned stuff, like I do, so never had to much to say, thinking well they already know this and left it at that. Everything in life I’ve come in contact with, I’ve entered that subject, topic, teaching, or documentary, class, like entering a room I record everything that’s in that room like a sponge, before leaving out the other end marked “EXIT” as a walking talking encyclopedia, taking all that data piecing it all together and throwing out what doesn’t fit has been a life long quest, similar to David Wilcock with out the notoriety or egoic fame people have layered on him over the year’s. mastering anything I come in contact with storing the knowledge and moving on to the next magazine in life. I the really love analogies as the glue that holds and validates all the connectedness that surrounds us all.

And most of it is in plain sight, the ability to look behind the Curtin, or back engineer everything I look at came very early in my life, self taught like Edison’s 2,000 battery’s before he came across 2,001-- that worked. And said when asked what it felt like to have so many failures. No NO, “now” I know how to make 2,000 battery’s that don’t work. That knowledge is priceless.

Its not the knowledge that counts, its all about how it fits together. We know how 2,000 society’s don’t work, and like Edison we are searching for that one society that fits.

OP premise this knowledge if taught in schools instead of all this dumbing down, everyone else is better or smarter academic’s in consumerism education support frame work has to go. Exams are only to see if you are conforming to there brain washing slave programming software vaccinations keeping everyone focused on the matrix.

Going back stage so to speak at one of David Copperfield magic shows, the “matrix of life” is what all this secret society stuff is all about. You must not find out how all this stuff works. Church, school, consumerism, corporate mafia rule. Exposing any of it--- people die and it go’s away. I am just one of the jury and have listened to all the testimony in life around me and have reached a verdict just like David Wilcock and many other juror’s we’ve been out for many eon’s now the jury is coming back in. and the verdict is now being read out loud in public court.

All of us have this part to play we must choose to be a witness, juror, or victim. If we are not part of the cure, then we are part of the problem. All I can tell you is before Avalon I was a silent professional student, into anything I didn’t know. Still am, but now just voice erus with a big grinn. :cool: John xxx


Its not the knowledge that counts, its all about how it fits together.
Once one begins to experience hidden likeness is all things, one’s load lightens.


OP premise this knowledge if taught in schools instead of all this dumbing down, everyone else is better or smarter academic’s in consumerism education support frame work has to go. Exams are only to see if you are conforming to there brain washing slave programming software vaccinations keeping everyone focused on the matrix.

I agree. One gets no points for going beyond what is “taught”. School administrators just want you to regurgitate back the same information presented by the professors. Sigh...leaving no room for the creative and imaginative individuals. :tape2:


Going back stage so to speak at one of David Copperfield magic shows, the “matrix of life” is what all this secret society stuff is all about. You must not find out how all this stuff works. Church, school, consumerism, corporate mafia rule. Exposing any of it--- people die and it go’s away. I am just one of the jury and have listened to all the testimony in life around me and have reached a verdict just like David Wilcock and many other juror’s we’ve been out for many eon’s now the jury is coming back in. and the verdict is now being read out loud in public court.

You’ve been an attentive juror that shines truth in this public court. :cool: Because of your sharing, I for one find myself hitting the refresh and delete buttons. I’m tossing out what’s no longer needed; opening for all possibility.

My thanks, again, for sharing of yourself, your knowledge, and your wisdoms, John XXX. :wizard:

[RunningDeer]

No rotten tomatos please, but as far as I'm concerned Deepok is nothing but a schill, bought and paid for, whether knowingly or not. Yes he can say some very wonderful things, but what the man says, and what the man does, are two very different animals.

Sorry...

Cheers,
Fred


"... but what the man says, and what the man does, are two very different animals.
I'm being judgy, now... but...Fred, Fred, Fred...is this from personal experience that you know, "but what the man says, and what the man does, are two very different animals." Are you in relationship with him 24/7? If so, can you introduce me to him?

For me, everyone deserves a pass if they're invested in assisting humanity. If I come away with at least one Ah-Ah!, then I've gotten my time and energies worth. In Deepak Chopra's case, up until 2000, I had purchased every book and many tapes and DVDs.

Today, I see with different eyes, in part because of his ability to take challenging topics and put them in simple language for the lay person. I walk away enriched. And that's priceless. :wave:

Peace,
WhiteCrowBlackDeer :ranger:

[RunningDeer]

No rotten tomatos please, but as far as I'm concerned Deepok is nothing but a schill, bought and paid for, whether knowingly or not. Yes he can say some very wonderful things, but what the man says, and what the man does, are two very different animals.

Sorry...

Cheers,
Fred


"... but what the man says, and what the man does, are two very different animals.
I'm being judgy, now... but...Fred, Fred, Fred...is this from personal experience that you know, "but what the man says, and what the man does, are two very different animals." Are you in relationship with him 24/7? If so, can you introduce me to him?

For me, everyone deserves a pass if they're invested in assisting humanity. If I come away with at least one Ah-Ah!, then I've gotten my time and energies worth. In Deepak Chopra's case, up until 2000, I had purchased every book and many tapes and DVDs.

Today, I see with different eyes, in part because of his ability to take challenging topics and put them in simple language for the lay person. I walk away enriched. And that's priceless. :wave:

Peace,
WhiteCrowBlackDeer :ranger:

UPDATE: Hello, Fred. Man I just got caught up. I'm behind in reading these posts because i was watching "The Way of the Wizard" vid by Chopra. I didn't know others had responded.

But while I've got you here, can you introduce me to him? http://forums.newtorrents.info/style_emoticons/default/rofl.gif

[ljwheat]

Here is an update video for those who have e-mail tracking. added this video to the OP also. John

WaYcXsGBaL0

[Fred Steeves]

Hi there, true I shouldn't have commented the way I did on Deepak yesterday, without any reasons given for the way I feel. Mainly it's the hypocricy I've noticed in his war opinions. He's a somewhat regular on MSNBC's "Morning Joe", that's co-hosted by Zbigniew Brzezinski's daughter Mika, and never missed a chance to rail against Bush's war on terror, and how dispicable it was.

I've not heard a peep from him about that war now on steroids under Obama, he mainly just comes on to chat philosophy, and plug his latest book. I personally find that thoroughly discrediting, especially for one who has the ears of so many people as a wise, sagely figure. Not to mention that it would seem he buys the 9/11 story hook, line and sinker.

So I did a bit of Googling, and came up with two different articles he wrote for The Huffington Post. The first during the Bush years, the second just last year under Obama. Not trying to convince anyone here, just trying to show that I was not baselessly spewing hot air.:)

So here they are:



"Polls show that more than half of Americans are against the Iraqi war, but a shift in public sentiment hasn't brought us any closer to achieving peace. Nor would we be any closer if all our troops came home tomorrow. The threat of terrorism still calls for a response, and we haven't found one. The American public accepted a "war on terror" as the justified response to 9/11. Our motivation was a mixture of revenge, fear, national pride, and the time-honored habit of meeting violence with violence.

So where are we now? Still afraid, still unsafe, still without revenge, still losing pride every day in the eyes of other nations, and still inflicting violence without purpose. Terrorism in Northern Ireland wasn't ended by the use of British military force. It was ended by a combination of negotiation, public fatigue, international pressure, and moral force. Certainly it was necessary to forcefully counter IRA terrorist acts and to imprison those who committed acts of terror. But without a peace movement, success is impossible in these situations."


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/deepak-chopra/the-difference-between-an_b_10259.html


"If you suppose that the average citizen remembers that the right wing are the very ones who got us into this forlorn tangle of wars abroad, financial collapse, out-of-control spending, and massive bonuses for the rich, you have not felt the power that fear exerts. Since 9/11, playing upon fear has been wildly successful for the right wing -- it re-elected a catastrophic president -- and now outrage has been added to the mix thanks to the romping recklessness of Wall Street, which paid not the slightest penalty for bringing on the recession."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/deepak-chopra/why-we-need-president-oba_b_900666.html

[RunningDeer]

Thanks Fred,

There’s about a five year spread between these articles and I don’t know how many others were written. But there comes a point in time when you ask yourself if it’s all been said, do you keep on saying it? Or is it time for another approach?

Deepak Chopra may use his air time to promote his latest book as a way to make contact with greater numbers and effect change. There’s only “X” amount of time, so you “pick ya battles”. Chopra may see that it’s more important to assist in the awakening spirit than to spend time and energy to discredit the old system. He may understand that people are saturated. It’s more important for people expend their energy on helpful ideas and hopeful possibilities so they can get down to the business of inner work.

Peace,
WhiteCrowBlackDeer

Talk about synchronicity... I just finished posting this and went to this vid. Fred, you may want to go to the 5 - 9 minute mark. It'll fill in some blanks.

P.S. I suspect that ljwheat posted this for a specific reason. :wave:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaYcXsGBaL0&feature=player_embedded#!


Hi there, true I shouldn't have commented the way I did on Deepak yesterday, without any reasons given for the way I feel. Mainly it's the hypocricy I've noticed in his war opinions. He's a somewhat regular on MSNBC's "Morning Joe", that's co-hosted by Zbigniew Brzezinski's daughter Mika, and never missed a chance to rail against Bush's war on terror, and how dispicable it was.

I've not heard a peep from him about that war now on steroids under Obama, he mainly just comes on to chat philosophy, and plug his latest book. I personally find that thoroughly discrediting, especially for one who has the ears of so many people as a wise, sagely figure. Not to mention that it would seem he buys the 9/11 story hook, line and sinker.

So I did a bit of Googling, and came up with two different articles he wrote for The Huffington Post. The first during the Bush years, the second just last year under Obama. Not trying to convince anyone here, just trying to show that I was not baselessly spewing hot air.:)

So here they are:



"Polls show that more than half of Americans are against the Iraqi war, but a shift in public sentiment hasn't brought us any closer to achieving peace. Nor would we be any closer if all our troops came home tomorrow. The threat of terrorism still calls for a response, and we haven't found one. The American public accepted a "war on terror" as the justified response to 9/11. Our motivation was a mixture of revenge, fear, national pride, and the time-honored habit of meeting violence with violence.

So where are we now? Still afraid, still unsafe, still without revenge, still losing pride every day in the eyes of other nations, and still inflicting violence without purpose. Terrorism in Northern Ireland wasn't ended by the use of British military force. It was ended by a combination of negotiation, public fatigue, international pressure, and moral force. Certainly it was necessary to forcefully counter IRA terrorist acts and to imprison those who committed acts of terror. But without a peace movement, success is impossible in these situations."


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/deepak-chopra/the-difference-between-an_b_10259.html


"If you suppose that the average citizen remembers that the right wing are the very ones who got us into this forlorn tangle of wars abroad, financial collapse, out-of-control spending, and massive bonuses for the rich, you have not felt the power that fear exerts. Since 9/11, playing upon fear has been wildly successful for the right wing -- it re-elected a catastrophic president -- and now outrage has been added to the mix thanks to the romping recklessness of Wall Street, which paid not the slightest penalty for bringing on the recession."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/deepak-chopra/why-we-need-president-oba_b_900666.html

[ljwheat]

This tread is not about fruit that may have set in a pretty display on the shelf for all to see when it was freshly picked still holding all its color and luster. Its about the essence of the fruit-- ie. The bleepin seeds they never rot now do they,--- they may dry out, but if planted in fertile ground brings forth new growth, stronger tree’s greater abundance of fruit.

I prefer not to load every one into a bus, to take a field trip to the city land fill were all the spoiled fruit wind up. Rather harvest the seeds before throwing out the baby with the bath water.

No matter how hard you try to talk about negativity and judgment, trying to washing it in all the sensibility or reason, or I was only trying to spin dry it for you. It still comes out as messy as when it went in.

When a train derails with special cargo, you don’t scrap the train and the cargo do you? Negativity in any package big or small in any language or reasoning you want to paint over the rust or sugar coat it is still negativity, when you try to use a justifier, its like turning a war plain in to a stealth bomber, it will still attack the target and kill the seed that could have been planted.

An object or idea in motion tends to stay in motion. Be very careful in the words that leave your mouth, you can't get them back and they will hit there target. We live in dualistic everything, and words are either positive or negative like night and day trying to shine a light in the dark dose not make it day time. Basic’s, all just basic’s, should I as a human fall off the wagon, please help me back on board, I would not like to be left or shot on the side of the road either. Just my two cents. Lets get back on the wagon this thread with the cargo it was carrying to market. There is no space for negativity in the fifth Dimension and above shall we practice this now, before we get there?

If we are not part of the cure then we are still part of the problem are we not? John

[RunningDeer]

Hello ljwheat,

Great post above...

:focus: This grasshopper is now re-focused.

Peace,
WhiteCrowBlackDeer :wave:

[ljwheat]

Hello ljwheat,

Great post above...

:focus: This grasshopper is now re-focused.

Peace,
WhiteCrowBlackDeer :wave:

Today wife and I went out to the store, to gather a few thing for a pool party later with our in-laws. So I started smiling at my wife and she smiled back and said what’s the smile for-- and I said I wanted to start practicing what I’ve been preaching. So she started smiling and not letting the smile fade to fare a way as we drove down the street when people glanced our way started smiling back, in the store people were more accepting to us than normal changing my inner awareness to the smile on my face changed how the world I was seeing in what I had in my heart. Very simple experiment to try but as an experiment its just that an experiment, finding ways to remind ourselves the power we hold in our hearts has more power than the negative world around us we are wittness too.

And again just now listening once again the OP video because of the sticky note I posted to my computer to vaccinate myself with this seed of knowledge first with this video before tackaling the day or this post. Turning positive and the mechanisms to carry it into a way of my life.

A way of keeping my eye on the brass ring as we go around and around with everything that we come in contact with. We have the choice to heat the air around us or cool it down at our finger tips. Taking any negative and changing its polarity to positive is as easy as flipping a switch, that switch or shift is in consciousness before we see it manifest out here. So smiling because its now my new option instead of a reaction is changing my world were ever I go, and that changes how people see my Mer-Ka-Ba energy field of the heart, my very own UFO. My choice's creates the fuel it runs on and how fare I can travel,-- as well as what I am viewing too. Think of negativity like you would traveling on a highway, all the negative’s are just the warning signs or detour signs keeping you safely on the path to your destination, like guard rails they have nothing to do with the wondrous, sights, sounds, and information along the way.

But letting the first negative sign control your foot-- stomping on the breaks-- and your froze in your tracks-- backing up traffic for mile’s is a sad thing indeed don’t you think?

Finding ways of staying on the road set before us now at the end of our collective journeys’ make this the best part of our trip together. And I am honored that I can share as much as I have in just a short stay at Avalon, thank you everyone here and the guest that visit us here, thank you I have gained so much in giving rather than to sit back and take. You all are very special to me. John

[Delight]

seeds .....never rot now do they,--- they may dry out, but if planted in fertile ground brings forth new growth, stronger tree’s greater abundance of fruit.........
An object or idea in motion tends to stay in motion. Be very careful in the words that leave your mouth, you can't get them back and they will hit there target. We live in dualistic everything, and words are either positive or negative like night and day trying to shine a light in the dark dose not make it day time. Basic’s, all just basic’s, should I as a human fall off the wagon, please help me back on board, I would not like to be left or shot on the side of the road either. Just my two cents. Lets get back on the wagon this thread with the cargo it was carrying to market. There is no space for negativity in the fifth Dimension and above shall we practice this now, before we get there?

If we are not part of the cure then we are still part of the problem are we not? John

This is a very well stated post. I like listening to others words. The thing about words and ideas as seeds is that we are the ground for seeds. We take in information and if it does not germinate, the information is like a seed on dry earth. This is either wonderful when the seed is of a plant we do not want to grow or not so wonderful if the plant is desired. Deepak may speak but if he has not germinated the seeds he wants to grow, he will fail to be fertile ground in his own desired life stream.

Nature spills out bilions upon billions of seeds and there are many many ideas and words. But what most of us want is something like a fruit of experience. Does reading and listening to the media really satisfy?

How to be the ground for the kind of seeds (of ideas) that we want to grow? How to stop growing seeds we don not value? This is my question.

My only answer for this one at the moment for me is to compost my soil by transmuting, to aereate by seeking inspiration, to water by bathing in feeling, to go out under the sun but also spend time in shade.

The metaphor of ground is also the absolute reality. But when ideas are planted in my ground, I also am the plant itself and the gardener.

This is not anyone dirty work or plantation, just my own and the fruits I will harvest are also my fruits only. This to me is what we are asked to be amnesic about...having forgotten we are made to believe that a "virtual" garden is sufficient or we can just watch someone else growing one. But I am also sure that one can start on the increased fertility planting a new field any time and there is no fault in lying fallow either.....

GURUs get a lot of accolades and a lot of condemnation too vacillating like the weather. My sense of compassion is for the person in the gee you are you suit. May it be that Deepak and all spokes persons like me and you who reads this one statement have the field of his and her own dreams sprout. Maggie

P>S> I think we fertile up our ground and till and grow and harvest until we create the perfect seed that will go off into the Universe. Then we start over.

[ljwheat]

GURUs get a lot of accolades and a lot of condemnation too vacillating like the weather. My sense of compassion is for the person in the gee you are you suit. May it be that Deepak and all spokes persons like me and you who reads this one statement have the field of his and her own dreams sprout. Maggie

P>S> I think we fertile up our ground and till and grow and harvest until we create the perfect seed that will go off into the Universe. Then we start over.

Thank you Maggie, I to feel the power and energy realized-- when my heart not my brain unlocks the wisdom that only can be pointed at, for no words exist in this realm that the brain can rap its thoughts around -- only the wisdom of the heart space has that ability. The brain can only look at feelings, or trigger a feelings, the heart is the feeler the brain is dead gray matter with no feeling. Understanding a feeling is not Feeling a feeling. We try to give the brain the credit, but if you turn in your brain to look at feelings its never their, and feeling are with out words present--- authored by the heart.

A sad story is pointing at something the heart needs to look at then the heart takes over and tiers roll. The words that caused the heart (silent watcher ) to take notice are not emotion. Emotion is the language of the silent watcher. All the teachers, truth Sayers, prophets, trying to bring this awareness to the masses have been silenced or removed. Books burned, wars Barry us in consumerism, and population reduction, and control. All with the brain ego driven beast.

Listening from the heart, hearing from the heart, speaking from the heart, This listening speaking, understanding, takes the same heart in the receiving heart of this language from the heart silent watcher lets you know threw this silent language of feelings.

Hallmark cards, this word processor, our brains are just words. Neutral till the heart adds feeling and that’s the power of miracles and there source, not the brain. So a seed planted in the brain with out the power of the heart is the anti- words, anti- idea’s, anti- growth. Keeping us away from this self empowerment is the ultimate jail programming there trying to keep all of humanity locked into. Thank you Maggie. John

[Carmen]

No rotten tomatos please, but as far as I'm concerned Deepok is nothing but a schill, bought and paid for, whether knowingly or not. Yes he can say some very wonderful things, but what the man says, and what the man does, are two very different animals.

Sorry...

Cheers,
Fred

You don't have to like it ;-) Thanks for your personal opinion Fred. I personally try not judge messengers, but rather take their message and research it, compare it, analyze it, until it is either mine, or discarded. Try not to shoot the messenger. ;-)


While I'm here:

I found this little, very metaphorical (don't try to understand this literally, lol) tidbit on "the present moment ..." (it was actually in my windows clipboard and I accidently hit the paste button while responding to Fred ... I don't believe in accidents that much so here it is!)


"Can you see more clearly now why it is essential in
these closing years of the cycle to release your interpretations?
They belong to the past. And Life exists eternally
in the present. You were intended to share in this eternal
Life. But to do so, you must release identification with
the past, release identification with the material
garments you wear, and accept the creative definition
that Life gives to you in this present moment.


What doyou call Satan? His body is the past, his breath, the
future. Energized by your past-oriented guilt and your
future-oriented fear, he follows you around like some vast
cosmic shadow. He casts his nets of fear on the waters of
your awareness, then draws them with ropes of reason,
back into a guilt-ridden past.


For the sake of illustration, your presence could be
compared to an inflatable membrane, designed to be filled to
the full with the energy and power of Life. Like two enormous
rips in the side, guilt and fear allow the precious
life-substance to escape, leaving you withered, ineffectual
and short-lived, all the' while, using your own life
substance to energize everything that you fear.


It is easy to reverse the situation. Let yourself die to
the past and wake up in the present moment. Why should
you hesitate? Are your past experiences really comprehensive
enough to provide a basis for understanding
everything you encounter in the present? Do they truly
deserve the authority and credibility that you give them?
How attentive were you to all the factors that were present
in the moment of their occurrence? If you are preoccupied
with "experience", how attentive will you be to
what is occurring in the moment? Where is your attention
now?"

I adore Ken Carey's books! I read and re-read them often. A very timely quote. Thanks!

Fred, what causes you to say that about Chopra?!

[Fred Steeves]

Fred, what causes you to say that about Chopra?!

Hi Carmen, you must have missed my follow up post, #29. I used to read his books, and he was one of the early influences on my spiritual journey. But like most of those teachers, as the journey becomes more and more refined, he had to be chunked overboard. The Deepak Chopra that I see on MSNBC is nothing but a book hawker, and a shameless defender of every criminal act Obama commits for the puppet masters.

If you guys can overlook the fact that he's snugly in a well feathered bed of treasonous war criminals, then have at it. If this is considered to be spreading negativity, so be it, I call em like I see em.http://nexus.2012info.ca/forum/images/smilies/newadditions/smile.gif

I truly have compassion for what kind of situation the man must be tangled up in, and I promise to not disturb this thread again. Unless someone wishes to discuss this aspect anyway.

Cheers All,
Fred

[ljwheat]

Getting back to the basic's --- rebooting focus----

Supporting, Calibrating, evidence with John wheeler,“Notation here;” this is not the John Wheeler Mr. Deepak was referring to in the video, -- none the less was a great synchronistic find as it fits so well with the topic at hand.

John


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Knowing that what we are is already here, turning to see the silent watcher,-- watching me watch what I am. The answer is not in the mind. it’s the feeling of the heart that what is there-- me -- is the watcher. being watched. john

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"WOW"
Deep, Really Deep. Behind the words we speak is----- you ------ the silent watcher.

“Notation here;” this is not the John Wheeler Mr. Deepak was referring to in the video, -- none the less was a great synchronistic find as it fits so well with the topic at hand.

John

[ljwheat]

Happy Fathers day everyone,:peace::grouphug: john

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Happy Fathers day everyone,:peace::grouphug: john

Happy Father's Day, John and All. http://www.pic4ever.com/images/z5.gif

[Ba-ba-Ra]

Being the silent sentinel of my own thoughts has been paramount in the great improvement of my dispostion and life over the years. Can't remember who said it: "The mind can be a great servant, but a terrible master" (not exact quote). Once I got the meaning, of that statement, I realized how much my mind was controlling my moods and how often I was on co-pilot. I guess that's the meaning (or at least one of them) of staying in the NOW.

If I paid attention and didn't let my mind go to negative places (such as revisiting a past experience that wasn't pleasant - which could make me angry or sad all over again as if it was just happening simply by revisiting it) I was freed up to enjoy the NOW by creating new, pleasant experiences.

We all know that the present time, the NOW is the only place where we can create by taking action (at least at this time in our evolution.) So why not, I asked myself spend it creating happiness, rather than waste it bringing forth negativity from the past. Not to say I'm not self-reflective of the past to understand the lesson. But now I focus on bringing forward the lesson, instead of the pain or sadness, leaving that in the past.

[DeDukshyn]

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I adore Ken Carey's books! I read and re-read them often. A very timely quote. Thanks!
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Ya, Ken Carey is absolutely great! (good eye!) I love how his ego is just so humble, he seeks no fame whatsoever, no exposure or celebrity status. All telling of the man and his interesting message. I also love how he forces no interpretation of the words either. Just a gentle presentation for each to do with as he wishes. I re-read his books often as well and follow his blog - its amazing how with his books, they speak to the reader on what ever level he/she is on at the time, from fairly basic intrigue, all the way to extremely advanced stuff if you read carefully between the lines. I have read one of his books many, many times and I usually get a little something different each time -- its like it is always relevant no matter how things change ... my 2 cents, one of my favourite authors! ;)

This is just brilliant IMO!

Are your past experiences really comprehensive enough to provide a basis for understanding everything you encounter in the present?

Do they truly deserve the authority and credibility that you give them?

How attentive were you to all the factors that were present in the moment of their occurrence?

If you are preoccupied with "experience", how attentive will you be to what is occurring in the moment?

Where is your attention now?"

[Ba-ba-Ra]

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I adore Ken Carey's books! I read and re-read them often. A very timely quote. Thanks!
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Ya, Ken Carey is absolutely great! (good eye!) I love how his ego is just so humble, he seeks no fame whatsoever, no exposure or celebrity status. All telling of the man and his interesting message. I also love how he forces no interpretation of the words either. Just a gentle presentation for each to do with as he wishes. I re-read his books often as well and follow his blog - its amazing how with his books, they speak to the reader on what ever level he/she is on at the time, from fairly basic intrigue, all the way to extremely advanced stuff if you read carefully between the lines. I have read one of his books many, many times and I usually get a little something different each time -- its like it is always relevant no matter how things change ... my 2 cents, one of my favourite authors! ;)

This is just brilliant IMO!

Are your past experiences really comprehensive enough to provide a basis for understanding everything you encounter in the present?

Do they truly deserve the authority and credibility that you give them?

How attentive were you to all the factors that were present in the moment of their occurrence?

If you are preoccupied with "experience", how attentive will you be to what is occurring in the moment?

Where is your attention now?"

Ditto on Ken Carey - I go back to his books time and time again.

[ljwheat]

Here we find : Yet another explanation in pointing at the elusory concept of physicality. That we existed or exist before the sight of self as this human form. We birthed as silent watcher, then we learned to sleep in humanity while silent watcher stayed awake and never sleeps --- the real you. The human shell falls away --- or is deluded you are still --- silent watcher. enjoy ! John xxx

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[Jake]

Yes, the silent watcher. Pure consciousness (proto-consciousness) emanating out in waves, only when consciousness is in a state of self observation does the wave collapse, and matter is born. Self observation manifests in peculiar ways, physical existence, being only one of them. 1 HUNDRED BILLION NEURONS, switching 1000 times per second = 10 to the 15th operations per second. That is the 'goal post' for artificial intelligence. (Good luck with that!) Each neuron is not just an on and off switch. Micro-tubulers act as quantum computers for cells. Performing functions that are 'beyond the scope' for scientists to understand.

Here is recent vid of Dpak discussing consciousness with Stuart Hammeroff, PhD. It is like candy to me ears. Western thought meets eastern thought. Consciousness does not exist in space and time, Space and Time exist in consciousness. All things being held in super-position until consciousness makes an observation,, once the act of observation ceases,, the system breaks down and matter does not exist. All matter exists as SYSTEMS of variables and potentials. A required part of any system where matter exists, is OBSERVATION. There is an INSEPERABILITY between matter and observation. If a thing is not observed, it does not exist, except as a potential. Consciousness animates the fields of potentials, to create physicality. Dr Stuart Hammeroff does not disagree!!

The science of consciousness... Please watch and enjoy.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erSd5xep30w