Tap on, Tap off, the tapper.

[7redorbs]

Unthinkable Achievements provoke Unthinkable Acts
by Adam Bull

So, for a long time I promised that I would bring some of the impressions I had observed to project Camelot forums.

For the last 10 years or so I have been involved in the researches and historic biography of several individuals involved in Electricity and free energy, including but not limited to the life of Nikola Tesla, Wilhelm Reich, Oliver Heaviside, Charles Proteus Steinmetz, Eric Dollard, Charles Wheatstone, Chris Carson, Kennely and James Clerk Maxwell and Faraday.

My work is really the sum total of a multitude of geniuses, and I take absolutely no credit for their work whatsoever. My work has broken me as a man, and challenged me as a soul, and I have the unfortunate duty of publishing my findings out to someone. I have known of Kerry and Bill for some time, and after some experiences of my own when I was starting out I find many of their video's a first-door to my understanding of this strange world. All of it, rooted in history, and that is where research should stay. I will not speculate in this post. I will tell you things that will turn you white and cause you to lose sleep, I do so because I have seen the future, there is no patents, it will be a crime, there is no energy scarcity either, or overpopulation. It is not illogical or a giant leap, it is a big universe out there, and I would like to be kind enough and honest enough to explain.

Most people know that Nikola Tesla from 1890 to 1914 was engaged in the development of A.C technology and for a short period of time worked under Edison Electric, later to become General Electric, which employed Steinmetz for some period in his life, a prominent Mathematician of his time that emigrated from Europe to America. What most people do not know is that the A.C system that Tesla developed was one of a myriad of important developments and advancements in the electrical system we have today.

Many are familiar with, and have no problem banding about the term "Marconi Wireless System", yet, their focus always is that Marconi stole Tesla's patents. This is true, Marconi - sort of stole them - by changing the waves the system employed, however, that is not the important part of the story.

The important part of the story is that in 1914-1919 the Marconi Wireless Installation was stolen from Marconi, an italian national, and placed under Military Government general rule command. This is of course not a joke, and you can check the formation of R.C.A yourself, and you will see that they "bought" Marconi Wireless Company.

Indeed, however, it was under statute of law. Frankly, the United States was terrified that the Alexanderson system and Marconi Wireless System would fall into foreign hands, such as Germany.

In any case, the Marconi System is not famously known for the fact that it exhibited wave forms that travelled 1.5645161290322580645161290322581 faster than the speed of light. Yes, that is right, and you likely will have never heard it before. You can check by reading Eric Dollards books on the subject of Tesla.

What is special about Eric Dollard as a source, as not only has he like Tesla demonstrated this Technology as working, but he was actually gainfully employed under R.C.A, is a foremostly recognised expert in Tesla, and gave the MOST ADVANCED lecture on Electrical Theory since Tesla, at the San Francisco Tesla Society.

In Bolinas, the Marconi Wireless facility was located, and, today, still stands testament to the most advanced electrical installation ever to exist on the planet earth. Eric Dollard writes, after having his lab taken away from him, his RCA equipment destroyed , confiscated or bulldozed by a SWAT team "that if commonweal and Point Reyes are allowed to continue allowing the old Marconi Wireless site to degrade it will be a great loss to humanity".

Nikola Tesla was involved with the Marconi site, I have a picture of him standing next to Steinmetz, Einstein and many other highly talented prodigies of the era. It is actually a fact that during these times most engineers thought that free energy was soon to be around the corner.

It is actually a fact that with the advent of the Marconi Wireless System exhibited two different waveforms that traveled along its aerial ground structure, it is based on the work of Marconi and Tesla, and the mathematics of Steinmetz, and makes use of the Multiple Loaded Flat Top Antennae (MLFTA). The Marconi Wireless System's (MLFTA) it exhibits 2 types of wave simultaneously, the LONGITUDINAL wave of 291,000miles/ per second & the TRANSVERSE wave of 186,000miles/per second. Of course most of us are familiar with the light speed TRANSVERSE SINUSOIDAL WAVE of 186,000miles per second, because it is what Einstein called C, the constant ratio between the exchange of energy and mass.

The marconi Wireless system was, as Dollard claims rightly, nothing short of absolutely spectacular, a truly marvelous achievement for humanity. That is, until Radio Corporation America and David Sarnoff taken over, under the government-military sponsored control programme.

Funnily enough, the Radio and TV we know today, consists of ONLY transverse (aka sinusoidal) wave forms, where the wave travels over space and time ONLY. This is what is known as "radiation resistance" by definition, as the sine wave is altering it's vector or phase direction along the wave, as set out and invented by Nikola Tesla's sytem of polyphase AC. In any case, the longitudinal wave of 291,000miles per second that existed in the Marconi Wireless System, until R.C.A pulled the plug, had a waveform shape that was infinitely flat, this is akin to a wave whose vector is concentrated, e.g. the longitudinal wave travels like pulling a rope. And the transverse wave we use today for our TV & Radio, it has a great deal of resistance, and, is much slower in the speed of propogation.

Let me explain a brain excercise so you can see this more clerely. Imagine if there was a nice little rope that went accross the universe for you, Joe is on one end, and Matilda is on the other. Joe pulls one end. What is the speed for the "transmission" of the wave? E.g. the binary C/W Data (information transmitted by pushing and pulling and sequencing). Well, the speed is pretty much instant, because the hole rope is connected and straight together, it is tort, so if one end pulls, the other is pulled instanteously.

This explains why Tesla felt he was able to claim to have "conceived a wave" that travels completely "regardless of distance". I am quoting Tesla directly. The nice thing about my post is, that you can see now how he came to this claim.

Interestingly enough Tesla also claimed he had contacted "aliens". This was I believe was attacked in the die-hard-press relentlessly. Regardless of the fact that if Tesla's rope, or the technical term, lines of force existed between all points in space, then Tesla may very well have transmitted basic communications to the entire universe simultaneously. Essentially triggering all Advanced installations throughout the entire universe to hear the C/W message. Indeed, if it propagated instantaneously as Tesla claimed - then, truly, the galactic civilisations, if any existed, would have heard that message instantaneously.

Perhaps that is why it is instantaneously suppressed and R.C.A founded, Tesla discredited, and also Tesla air-brushed from the Bolinas photo's that exist in Edison Archive today. Strange that. However, you can see the funny , and upsetting side of this. Why the defence department went bonkers, if or when they realised that Tesla may have unknowingly, or intentionally advertised the civilisation of man to the entire universe simultaneously. That was bound to irritate some people.

So, Marconi Wireless used Tesla's patents and the system comprised of 2 waveforms in it's multiple loaded flat top antennae ground-structure. Longitudinal waves which travelled at approximately 1.56 times the speed of light (push/pull of a rope) that traveled at 291,000mi/sec and transverse waves which traveled at 1.0 the speed of light or C, which were sinusoidal and spread out over space and time. Whereas the longitudinal wave was not spread out over space and time.

The transverse wave is like moving the rope that goes accross the universe up one end, instead of pushing and pulling. There is so much resistance in comparison to just pushing and pulling it. It of course also travels much slower. Which is why this is such a brilliant example/demonstration for people who do not understand Tesla's work with oscillating current & his Tesla Magnifying Transmitter, as well as his longitudinal telluric waveforms that he claimed "overcome distance". To people who know about Tesla already and find this surprising, it should not be at all surprising if you know about Tesla. Tesla claimed he had identified waves travelling 50 times C, or 50 times the speed of light inside his lab, most likely by an electrical or mechanical means of identification.

Tesla was a true genius who conceived a one wave longitudinal wave system, Marconi stole it and used 2 waves longitudinal and transverse to circumvent the Tesla patents, and then the government deemed it a military general controlled endeavour.

They actually sought the removal of public use of the longitudinal wave, substituting it with the inferior transverse system, the MLFTA was replaced with the Rhombic-D antennae, that we all are familiar with. Another interesting fact about this obvious suppression was that FM radio existed in 1930-1940 , see YANKEE RADIO, unfortunately though RCA and david sarnoff, thought it right to lobby for the FCC to change the FM radio band.

You see, Yankee radio did not need to use AT &T relay lines in their radio transmissions, unlike with Amplitude modulation, which suffers badly to hills. The problem for RCA, and sarnoff was that the RCA system was inferior to the AM system, so they had the FCC change the FM radio band.

Then all of a sudden when the FM radio's didn't transmit as reliably any more (which Sarnoff and RCA knew , which is why they lobbied), then Yankee Radio was essentially destroyed, and fair-competition non-existent, leaving a totally dominated government military control of the propagation media for news, commerce, radio. A terrible terrible terrible thing that has set back our nation 10's if not 100's of years or more. It leaves the "free development" of radio, and this so-called Electron technology in complete disarray, standing as testament to the greatest lie of the 21st century.

The Yankee Network was ruined, they were forced to lease out AT & T Lines, and what was a once superior FM radio , became a small non-important player in the affiliate war of commercial radio & TV. Indeed R.C.A & General Electric had it all figured out. The whole debacle unfortunately ended when the owner of Yankee Radio plummeted to his death. A testament to the cost of competing with the government military ran R.C.A AM technology.

Indeed both AM and FM are light speed communications. The point here is that R.C.A and government have been controlling the media since about 1914-1919 by use of the FCC, lobby groups, or by buying up, and taking over companies, aggressively, or by making it law, or defence initiative, in the case of R.C.A and the Marconi Wireless System.

The truth is I have not only researched the history of R.C.A and claims of Eric Dollard, Tesla & Wilhelm Reich and others, as to the legitimacy of this so-called illusive free energy. Better forget that word "free energy". Tesla and Marconi's work I outlined, specifically the marconi wireless system and the alexanderson alternator, well, they throw out the conception of "energy losses" altogether. The systems truly are the most advanced electrical installations ever to exist, and the removal of the longitudinal magneto dielectric wave propagations were the greatest defence initiative - to seek control over up-and-coming wave media, for command and control. This is truly a crime against humanity, and it was no wonder that Nikola Tesla was so embittered by the moves.

He of course had demonstrated his longitudinal wave to many people, as well as EFFECT preceding CAUSE. E.g. before the 2nd wire of an electrical circuit is closed, a blue vertical wave travels up from the ground, BEFORE the wire touches the circuit - that creates a large blue radial spark we call the spark - gap. Not only does this experiment prove that all electricity is being affected by the earths magnetic polar mass, but, that the wave traveling up, PRECEDING the wire being closed, is traveling ahead of time, or rather lagging in time, to the action of closing the terminal.

This is something I have actually successfully replicated with the help of Edward Leedskalnins book on Magnetic Current, an ex NASA spacewatcher I know in Tidbinbilla, and the support of several extremely gifted individuals. Unfortunately much like Chris Carson, the man that truly taught me most of the important things about Magnetic Current and Magneto Electrics, he is just not the same anymore, he lives in Illinois and I worry for him.

I truly, truly, don't want the same thing to happen to me, so I want to bring this information, all of it, to all of you, without charge, without motive, without any reason for you to doubt it.

You see, the whole point of this is, that G.E, Marconi, the government and the military, they have motives, they have reasons. The history is there and you can prove that everything I said is true to yourself, by reading the biographies of Tesla, the Books of Eric Dollard, and by watching his San Francisco Tesla Society Lecture.

The world we live in today thus can exist as nothing short of a lie. At the very least an assumption of energy scarcity, and the strict control of radio airspace, allows for the repeated harassment, victimisation, and destruction of the most important technology to befall man since the discovery of Fire.

I want you to know, Thank you kindly for your reception. It is greatly appreciated.
END TRANSMISSION. Of course, having understood the complete works of Nikola Tesla and Edward Leedskalnin I am able to grant many who do not know what is going on one wonderful "truth". That the Pyramid Builders knew everything about the speed of light, the longitudinal wave that comes from the sun, and how that the longitudinal wave of 291,000mi/sec traveling from the sun, when it hits the mass of planets or moons, reflects the light speed we call light 186,000mi/sec.

My ex space watcher from Tidbinbilla, and Eric Dollard will be able to vouch for that. The SUN, it is not visible in space, you cannot see it. You only see reflections of the wave when it breaks apart, as transverse. This little gem right here, is not only why the Marconi Wireless System works, but why the universe confirms the waves to both exist, and most of science to be total utter trash. I believe Tesla used the phrase "works of fiction". He did not see the continuation of the electron circuits.

It is truly amazing that they consider their circuits closed, when the planets north and south poles rotating and changing direction is causing the volts in the wire to go up and down.

Do not worry I have written publications about this, I was lucky, as a musician and young boy of 16, I had actually suspected that what was going on was something like this. - I explain exactly how the Voltage in the wire goes up and down, and why it must be from planets. I even explain an experiment for a high resolution recorded video of a spark gap, in comparative conjunction with an astrological map of where the planet, particularly the moon is. What is significant is that the planets add up to conserve their north and south pole lines of force, so over time they go up and down equally.

That is called second order.

The work of Nikola Tesla, Eric Dollard, and my own devices, they all work with 3rd order or beyond. As a musician I was lucky, and, I want the world to be lucky too.

I don't want a single dime. Just, please.... do something with this because I don't know how to do something with it myself right now that would seriously benefit humanity in the way I know it rightly should, and I do believe I have proven that today to you.


Best Wishes,
Adam Bull

[Carmen]

Thanks for your post. I understand some of what is written! I think this situation of suppression is changing so I would say 'hang in there'. There is, what has been an underground movement of knowledge gathering. One that is now bubbling to the service to be shared by all! Even scientists working conventionally, are questioning. I spoke to a cancer researcher the other evening and he seemed very disturbed by the lack of progress and is realizing that it is deliberate!! So, I showed him Elaine Hollingsworth's DVD, 'One Answer to Cancer'. He really appreciated it, much to my surprise! I was,'YES', the time has come.

In all area of suppression, I think, we will find, that the lies cannot control anymore. People have had enough!!

[noprophet]

Thank you so much.

This fills in a lot of gaps.

[mosquito]

Wow, thank you, some interesting stuff and you've managed to get it across in an understandable way. I for one certainly didn't know this aspect of Tesla's and Marconi's work.

Have you had a look at Wade Frazier's thread ? I'm sure here's some basis for sharing your knowledge.

[7redorbs]

Hi Mariposafe,

It's a great pleasure. I hope it finds you and as many people as possible well. Not enough people know this in the mass-consciousness. There are now many people like me working extremely hard to ensure that it is not lost again, not for another 100 years :( The loss to humanity would be too great, which is why I am coming out on a limb here to bring it as best I know it! So I thank you, I thank you all, It's a real pleasure. All I ask is that you do not believe what I say and you check the history for yourselves, that is very important. I don't know it all, just enough to be able to put some important pieces together I am quite sure many are lacking, as I myself was, and I have been looking for almost a decade now.

I haven't seen Wade Frazier's thread. Do you have a link? I'll definitely be sure to check it out. I've an open ear for all the peoples thoughts, it has guided me well. I have been naive in my time, but, that naivety had a precious value of faith that allowed me to listen long enough to be sure of deception and truths, but most importantly to get a navigational bearing - and as painful as it was for me, I encourage others to do the same if they truly wish to seek for truth, they must find many lies and deception by their naivety and faith, and hope that later their faith and unceasing dedication and relentlessness will eventually reveal it. That is how it seemed to work for me anyway, I didn't ask for this. Nobody does. They seek it out, and sometimes, just sometimes - it finds them. I am glad to have found that society is beginning to become ready for the priming of this important electrical history and technological history of the art,

Be assured there are others like me who sacrifice their lives, just to bring the information to you.

I am doing it for you because nobody did it for me. That matters to me a lot :) So thanks again

Best,
A

[A Simple Human]

@ 7redorbs,

Excellent initial post. I was only able to skim through it for now. I will peruse it tomorrow when I have more time, which I will be looking forward to. So, thanks for your contribution.

Here is Wade Frazier's thread:

WADE FRAZIER : A Healed Planet (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10672-WADE-FRAZIER-A-Healed-Planet)

There are presently 99 pages. I started you on page 1. You can obviously skip around as you wish. It's an excellent thread. So have fun! You can always find Wade's thread in the Stickies at the top of the General Discussion Forum.

All the best,

A.S.H.

[Mulder]

Wow, Tesla contacted Aliens that is amazing. I'm aware his death is very suspicious. Many believe a "double" of his wasmurdered and the real Tesla went on in secret to help build the atom bomb, etc.

[nonesuch]

Adam: I dream of the day when I can understand and make use of the technical information you share with far more education than I currently have under my belt. Your historical account of free energy and the technologies of Oneness confirms my long held notion that popularly disbelieved scientific 'miracles' are already possible, proven, stolen and in private use today for the benefit of the few.

While you remind me that free energy is within our reach, you also introduce me to something freer than utilities without a fee...that is, the probability of technical knowledge, scientific contexts and inventions that when released will put us in touch with our Universal sisters and brothers at the flick of a switch.

There are many pioneers on Earth today who already communicate similarly with extra-humans using natural or trained spiritual abilities. But soon they will be like seasoned professional film photographers, left cold in a past deleted unsentimentally by the emergence of a digital age. While still ahead of the curve, the masters of consciousness from our passing era will be changed forever as they witness the joyous equality with which all people have access to previously hidden tools and knowledge.

Communication across galaxies that once required years of spiritual effort to achieve inwardly will be common physical science in a box, more easily and affordably acquired than a cell phone today—and useable by anyone more quickly than you can blink twice in astonishment.

A double-sunned dawn is breaking worldwide on decaying dams built long ago to hold maliciously privatized universal knowledge away from the peoples of our planet. The dams' once sturdy walls are now weakened structures loosened from their foundations by diamond clear vibrations arising from humanity’s collective call for truth.

Great concrete slabs heave and yaw, no longer strong enough to hoard and restrict the urgent waters of honest Science. Lost in the fanfare of more prominent world chaos, the walls abandon their architects' orders and topple in waterfalls of loosed torrential knowledge onto the welcoming soil below. The resulting flood of unimaginable spiritual technologies is the gift left anonymously on Nature's doorstep for a stormstruck but upgraded humankind.

The illuminati’s already palsied grip on the industry, production and enforcement of a corrupt romance of lies withers further when touched by the conductivity of love and commitment embedded throughout your original post.

The high criminals’ days are numbered and few. The countdown is well underway. May your days be as many as you desire—guided, blessed and protected by unexpected lights from the Formless Within.

Thanks for your generous post. I shall investigate further. :yo:

[danceblackcatdance]

amazing stuff :)

what do you make of Mehran Keshe's work, Magravs (Magnetic and gravitational fields) and such like?

he's making some seriously bold claims...

[Simonm]

I'm not clever enough to be able to understand the technicalities of what you have written. However, I am fascinated in the history and whole field of energy. Is it not possible that your findings can be used as a practical application, i.e. FE machines? If so, is it not possible for you to produce plans? Sorry if that is very ignorant and stupid, it really is meant as a serious question. If your work is practical to the masses, then why not pass out work / plans here that can be propagated by the users elsewhere?

[778 neighbour of some guy]

Bump up, up, up.

[modwiz]

Quite a post 7redorbs, and thank you. I am going to lie down and meditate on what I could understand of your presentation. The Sun being invisible in space was a big aha! for me. This longitudinal flat wave that can allow for instant transmissions might be the key to understand the concept of "ether" better. I can't wait to play with this stuff in my mind. I am not an engineer or mathematician, but I can think things through.

And now it is off to meditate.

[Vitalux]

thank you ever so much for this post
Keep up the wonderful work.....you have a very captive audience

[Muzz]

Many thanks 7redorrbs and welcome to the forum.

Heres a video of Dolard at San Fransisco

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[ThePythonicCow]

So, for a long time I promised that I would bring some of the impressions I had observed to project Camelot forums.
Interesting indeed.

Some may be interested to know that you have posted this and much more on the conspiracy.co forum, at Post on Project Camelot- The Definitive Energy conspiracy.Tap on, Tap off, the tapper (http://www.conspiracy.co/forums/main-wall/12764-post-project-camelot-definitive-energy-conspiracy-tap-tap-off-tapper.html).

(By the way, this is the Project Avalon forum, not the Project Camelot forum (http://camelotforum.org/) :).)

Welcome to Project Avalon!

[7redorbs]

Hi everyone :)

Thank you, thank you ever so much. Remember, I don't want anything, or to advertise my work at the above site Paul. I know there is a lot of good information there that has taken me so so long to make the progress towards. People who would like to understand the technical details in a more simple way than the SFTS Lectures (they are intended with scientists and engineers), then perhaps the Ham Radio SBARC talk that Eric gives is more suitable.

It is where I started with Dollard, and as soon as I saw it, I knew I'd discovered someone, and something very very special indeed.

I also created a video today demonstrated a LEADING CAUSE to EFFECT. This means that the CAUSE of my switch closing in the circuit, has an effect, that "predicts it" or "knows that it is coming". This means that the EFFECT LEADS AHEAD OF the cause in time. Or more simply, the cause is ahead in time of the effect, and lags after the thing that it seems to be producing. This blows all science out of the water. All of it. That's why it's classified, eh?

It is also not entirely simple, I had to revise the above paragraph about 5 times, to explain fully what is going on. It is simplifiable, and it is my hope I am doing that enough for people of all walks of life understanding the importance of Tesla, Leedskalnins, Reich & Dollards work, and many many other brilliant human beings that still exist today. Time I believe does run short though.

If I am right about this particularly, it does a lot more than disprove electrons, or demonstrate faster than light. It shows that the faster than light waves, operate in the counterspace that Eric Dollard writes about in his books. The wave (my cause) appears to propogate backwards in time, so that the leading effect, to lagging cause, can come before, and meet my closing terminal. The way it does this is by traveling upwards towards my switch, before it has been closed.

I have caught this nearly 100 times, in about 1000 - 2000 different types of shot. I need bettery camera's and people need to do the work themselves now. Either the electricity is alive and is able to anticipate my actions, or electrical wave are propagating forwards and backwards through time. Or, I am a mad scientist, perhaps, that is quite mistaken. (accepting).

I hope it finds you well and this meets the unexpected thirst and interest my post seems to have raised on this forum. I have to say I am so very glad.

ERIC DOLLARD @ SBARC:
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MY VIDEO DEMONSTRATION UPLOADED TODAY FOR PROJECT AVALON TO SHOW EFFECT PRECEDING CAUSE, I have named this effect the "Dollard Tesla Leedskalnin effect"
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e.g. I don't want credit. I want patents, and the lie of energy scarcity to end. We have electrical waves which are propogating forwards and backwards in time, at least, if I am right- and if I am right, then the world is due for a revolution of a socio-political and scientific kind never seen in this century. Or rather, for the last 100 years it should have been undergoing it such, if it was not for the unwelcome , immoral and unfair interference of the military government "lucifer group" since about the inception of RCA.

:) Thank you, Thank you all, so much. I promise I am not making this up, and I promise if you look into it you will discover there is much that we will have to do to save this technology for being destroyed, by groups like Commonweal, R.C.A and the military-government complex, which took control of the development and licensing of this technology, as well as a patent monopoly in 1914.

That silly old story "if we had it we'd be using it story" peddled by the ministry of skepticism et al, becomes tired and wasted; as I have outlined it's assumption : that there wasn't a documented government-military conspiracy to take precedence of command and control of the technology.

Thanking you all again, you have lit a bright light today,

Best,
A

[Fred Steeves]

The Sun being invisible in space was a big aha! for me. This longitudinal flat wave that can allow for instant transmissions might be the key to understand the concept of "ether" better. I can't wait to play with this stuff in my mind. I am not an engineer of mathematician, but I can think things through.

Yes, that was very interesting Modwiz, I agree. I'm actually surprised I haven't stumbled across that little zinger a bit earlier.(LOL) This article I found was interesting.

http://scienceray.com/physics/did-you-know-that-stars-are-not-visible-from-space/

O.k., I know I'm wading in over my head here, but is Hubble able to see and photograph stars, because it has instruments to be able to see the entire light spectrum?

Another question: Is the sun really hot, or is it energy? Would this again take an atmosphere, like a magnifying glass, to transfer, or focus the energy into heat?

Cheers,
Fred

[sandy]

Most of all 7redorbs THANK YOU for your personal integrity and love of "Mother Earth and all her creatures". I pray that your pure intent of goodness for all will be absorbed and reverberated throughout the Universe to the reality of FREE ENERGY implementation in the near future.

[observer]

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This is all very reminiscent of what Lt. Col. Tom Bearden is saying in his many interviews available on YouTube.

Somewhere, in this forum, Bill Ryan spoke of Tom Bearden, but I can't seem to find it using the site search engine. Maybe one of the Mods can lead us to it.

I also recall a Bill Ryan/Tom Bearden interview (of sorts), but I can't seem to find that either....

[Tane Mahuta]

Hey 7, thankyou for sharing, interesting first post...

Welcome to Avaon

TM

[778 neighbour of some guy]

Bump up, again.

[Kristo]

Brother Fred,
I asked this same question (not on PA) regarding the hidden giant body supposedly in our solar system, being detected by scientists only due to the affect(s) on other, nearer planetary bodies.... My question was similar in that, if Hubble can capture images of millions of galaxies in the cosmic distance, why can't it detect an image in our own cosmic neighborhood? The answer that set well with me was that 'dim'/ cold objects are much more difficult to image and detect...??? From what I understand, the optical detection has more to do with temperature, rather than the visual spectrum... Makes sense since most of us are immune to the ultra violet & infrared spectrums. Still skeptically curious here...
Kris




The Sun being invisible in space was a big aha! for me. This longitudinal flat wave that can allow for instant transmissions might be the key to understand the concept of "ether" better. I can't wait to play with this stuff in my mind. I am not an engineer of mathematician, but I can think things through.

Yes, that was very interesting Modwiz, I agree. I'm actually surprised I haven't stumbled across that little zinger a bit earlier.(LOL) This article I found was interesting.

http://scienceray.com/physics/did-you-know-that-stars-are-not-visible-from-space/

O.k., I know I'm wading in over my head here, but is Hubble able to see and photograph stars, because it has instruments to be able to see the entire light spectrum?

Another question: Is the sun really hot, or is it energy? Would this again take an atmosphere, like a magnifying glass, to transfer, or focus the energy into heat?

Cheers,
Fred

[Muzz]

Somewhere, in this forum, Bill Ryan spoke of Tom Bearden, but I can't seem to find it using the site search engine. Maybe one of the Mods can lead us to it.
I also recall a Bill Ryan/Tom Bearden interview (of sorts), but I can't seem to find that either....

Adm. George Hoover and the Roswell secret: the real abilities that humans have (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?20134-Adm.-George-Hoover-and-the-Roswell-secret-the-real-abilities-that-humans-have&p=215696&viewfull=1#post215696)

Matt Simmons assassinated? (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?4671-Matt-Simmons-assassinated&p=43047&viewfull=1#post43047)

And according to this post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?25257-Tom-Bearden&p=262855&viewfull=1#post262855) "Bill tried to interview Tom Bearden" ( dont know if this is the case btw)

[Bo Atkinson]

He of course had demonstrated his longitudinal wave to many people, as well as EFFECT preceding CAUSE. E.g. before the 2nd wire of an electrical circuit is closed, a blue vertical wave travels up from the ground, BEFORE the wire touches the circuit - that creates a large blue radial spark we call the spark - gap. Not only does this experiment prove that all electricity is being affected by the earths magnetic polar mass, but, that the wave traveling up, PRECEDING the wire being closed, is traveling ahead of time, or rather lagging in time, to the action of closing the terminal.


If you will allow a naive question, i have wondered about this specific Tesla facet, for years (concerning a distinction of waves). The time distinctions seems new to me or else more detailed, providing me more curiosity. Perhaps i need to goggle scalar + time + waves. Or try combinations with the words around 'intentionality'. But sometimes, a naive question gets the best link. (The squeaky hinge, gets the grease ). Thanks.

In the quoted paragraph, it almost sounds like a connection with the human phenomena of intention preceding physical action, manifested in transmission? But then it almost sounds like the initiation of transmission only and not the subsequent modulation or human communication on the carrier wave. Update edit: Or... The Max Planck Uncertainty Principle ????

I will be trying to hear your Dollard lecture on my portable unit, in my out door work, today.

Thanks so much for your post here.

wavydome

Edit: wow, i just googled:
scalar + time + waves + intentionality
Expecting it would shave off results, which lack all terms... 5,190,000 results??
... I'd hate to grease my intentions :(

[Bo Atkinson]

Apx 5:48 7redorbs' Linked YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7oAlvaC8ls Amazing Tesla Quote read by narrator: ".... Scientist today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane, to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite insane. Today scientist have substituted mathematics for experiments and they wander through equation after equation and potentially build a structure which has no relation to reality."

I just had to come back in to scroll through and verify each word, completely amazed and inspired.

waydome

[Bo Atkinson]

RE the lectures linked above:

It sounds as though this is the book to buy for more background RE the YouTube lectures :
"Theories of ether and electricity" Whitaker 1500 pages 3 volumes
Google had this type of 'download' option:
http://www.4shared.com/file/MrJSHh-1/Whittaker_-_A_history_of_theor.html
(At least they spare one the obese porn of other torrent sites).
Question: Has anyone had magical success on Mac OSX10.7, with torrent aps....
I have not had luck here or it seems one needs new software for each download place.

Or is a 'free' site an entrapment for copyright violations :rolleyes:

I prefer Avalon rather than pure electronic-forums-discussions,
thanks to some multi-disciplined minds here.

Too much of the web has single-disciplined minds, if disciplined much at all.

Curse of the out-of-box-thinkers.
Advantage of the Archons, Verdants, TPTBs, etc...
Or is it just a karma of patience.

[Bo Atkinson]

Re-inspired by Tesla's mention of:

"build a structure which has no relation to reality"
Allow me to add some pictures of my Tesla inspired moments in time, where i "built structure which has relation to reality"

http://harmoniouspalette.com/LightningProtectedDomePine.jpg

One can google/images the following:
"Tesla Umbrella Lightning Protector"
For Tesla's patent on his lightning protection theory and practice.
It inspired me in my implementation dating back to the mid 1970s.

http://harmoniouspalette.com/RingforcementProtector.jpg

Electronic suppression of the population seems to be something which the individual has to deal with individually.... Is it just electronic-EMR (electro-magneticd-radiation) noise? Is there malevolent intent behind the suppressive effects of electronics today? Mainly: is it friendly or unfriendly, with regard to overall-intent? What is each and every significant intention, behind the the control of the electronics and the power distribution industry?

Dollard spoke critically about the wave bands and EMR issues, of the cell phones pushed on to unwary consumers today. Most notable was the 'hijacking' of Tesla's proposed system of electronics. Beginning with electric power distribution. Although the book "Nikola Tesla, Lectures-Patents-Articles" does mention his promise of a benign communications systems, too. Dollard outlines the the tech behind the wrongful paradigm, as chosen by industry and financiers. Wrongful, in among other issues, it is unhealthy. Wrongful also, in the inefficient profiteering and ruination of prosperity for the general population of earth.

I have studied key note health experts and already accept Dollard's added information... I studied Electronic Technology in the mid to late 1970s, (via snail mails but could not afford the lab component, way back then). EMR has been malevolently corrupted! Get the facts people! Find your own protective measures. Do your own research well. In order to stay well.

As to the concept of (conductive) reinforcement rings, providing some sort of unverified anechoic effect... Especially in case these rings are structured in a 'coffer' configuration... I submit this is worth further testing with good test equipment. I live and work on a shoe string... Nevertheless, these coffers have proven the audio-anechoic effect or echo free effect:
http://harmoniouspalette.com/AnechoicAuditorium.html

When this dome was empty, there were no echo effects. Typical masonry domes have irritating echoes. Not so with anechoic structures.

I know Separately, i have been an object of 'attack' (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?45693-Missing-Time-Rare-Form-of-Mind-Control&p=496735&viewfull=1#post496735). Which might indicate some sort of value in the work which i have focussed on, during the last 12 years.

[778 neighbour of some guy]

Bump UP.......

[778 neighbour of some guy]

Re-inspired by Tesla's mention of:

"build a structure which has no relation to reality"
Allow me to add some pictures of my Tesla inspired moments in time, where i "built structure which has relation to reality"

http://harmoniouspalette.com/LightningProtectedDomePine.jpg

One can google/images the following:
"Tesla Umbrella Lightning Protector"
For Tesla's patent on his lightning protection theory and practice.
It inspired me in my implementation dating back to the mid 1970s.

http://harmoniouspalette.com/RingforcementProtector.jpg

Electronic suppression of the population seems to be something which the individual has to deal with individually.... Is it just electronic-EMR (electro-magneticd-radiation) noise? Is there malevolent intent behind the suppressive effects of electronics today? Mainly: is it friendly or unfriendly, with regard to overall-intent? What is each and every significant intention, behind the the control of the electronics and the power distribution industry?

Dollard spoke critically about the wave bands and EMR issues, of the cell phones pushed on to unwary consumers today. Most notable was the 'hijacking' of Tesla's proposed system of electronics. (Beginning with electric power distribution. Although the book "Nikola Tesla, Lectures-Patents-Articles" does mention his promise of a benign communications systems, too. Dollard outlines the the tech behind the wrongful paradigm, as chosen by industry and financiers. Wrongful, in among other issues, it is unhealthy. Wrongful also, in the inefficient profiteering and ruination of prosperity for the general population of earth.

I have studied key note health experts and have to accept Dollard's added information... I studied Electronic Technology in the mid to late 1970s, (via snail mails but could not afford the lab component, way back then). EMR has been malevolently corrupted! Get the facts people! Find your own protective measures. Do your own research well. In order to stay well.

As to the concept of (conductive) reinforcement rings, providing some sort of unverified anechoic effect... Especially in case these rings are structured in a 'coffer' configuration... I submit this is worth further testing with good test equipment. I live and work on a shoe string... Nevertheless, these coffers have proven the audio-anechoic effect or echo free effect:
http://harmoniouspalette.com/AnechoicAuditorium.html

When this dorm was empty, there were no echo effects. Typical masonry domes have irritating echoes. Not so with anechoic structures.

I know Separately, i have been an object of 'attack' (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?45693-Missing-Time-Rare-Form-of-Mind-Control&p=496735&viewfull=1#post496735). Which might indicate some sort of value in the work which i have focussed on, during the last 12 years.

Is that your crib Wavy?

Very nice man, in times of cme's and electromagnetic pulses you have a nice farradaycage to live in, i hope you have room for more people in there, because youre house will be stormed;)

[Bo Atkinson]

Re-inspired by Tesla's mention of:

"build a structure which has no relation to reality"
Allow me to add some pictures of my Tesla inspired moments in time, where i "built structure which has relation to reality"....snip..........

Is that your crib Wavy?

Very nice man, in times of cme's and electromagnetic pulses you have a nice farradaycage to live in, i hope you have room for more people in there, because youre house will be stormed;)

Hey thanks plumber man,

Let me clarify though.... My life is a study of our "ship wrecked" planet. As a plumber, you might like my wavy dome water system. I invented the cheapest ever adapter and manifold system:
http://harmoniouspalette.com/jury-rig-plumbing.jpg
Just add water to mud mix and hand mold all tubings and valve together. Presto!

Up here in the Maine fog, we hope the solar-max will burn off some fog... Some coastal lore has said: "The fog can get thick enough to cut with a knife. But a really sharp knife works best!"

The down side is blight and mildew in gardens, for man's delicate food crops.... Taking up time to handle... TIme to get out there and listen to some mp3 stuff, while i work on my knees.

At least the fog and rain will dampen a CME considerably, in terms of dissipating charge. There is only something like a 15 minute notice from first CME alarm until the effect hit our electronics. Perhaps it would be a good opportunity to go back to Tesla's electrical systems, instead of rebuilding the ridiculous, profiteer's grid systems.

My home of 42 years has grown slowly. In the back-woods Maine style, it is a slow progression of piles of left over materials shifted around, serving here, then there. Inspired, however, by much inherited culture, from my ancestors.

One old man told me that piles of building material serve as insulation. It keeps market value down too, making taxes affordable, (for the under employed). It gets cold up here.... People tend to flee this area come winter-- Especially during oil shortages. I use sylva-culture-wood-heating, but only a few rooms. The greenhouses and my studio average around 50º F in cold months. Just above freezing at times. Kills unwanted plant pests. Keeps my head cool, for sharper thinking too. Keeps computers cool and quiter..... Way too much discipline involved for the undisciplined.

PS-- I corrected a typo above which you quoted.... My spell-checker wrote 'dorm' instead of dome.... I didn't want people to think i run a boarding house :cool2:

We had no kids, so no extra rooms are here, etc... I sail a very tight salvage system, Robinson Crusoe style. Always glad to share such architectural tips! I love to share practical knowledge for navigating the coming perils and difficulties... Contact me before we are all cut off....

[observer]

As I mentioned in an earlier comment, and as was further addressed by Murray in the exchange, below:



For content of comment, click-on forwarding arrow

This is all very reminiscent of what Lt. Col. Tom Bearden is saying in his many interviews available on YouTube.

Somewhere, in this forum, Bill Ryan spoke of Tom Bearden, but I can't seem to find it using the site search engine. Maybe one of the Mods can lead us to it.

I also recall a Bill Ryan/Tom Bearden interview (of sorts), but I can't seem to find that either....



Somewhere, in this forum, Bill Ryan spoke of Tom Bearden, but I can't seem to find it using the site search engine. Maybe one of the Mods can lead us to it.
I also recall a Bill Ryan/Tom Bearden interview (of sorts), but I can't seem to find that either....

Adm. George Hoover and the Roswell secret: the real abilities that humans have (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?20134-Adm.-George-Hoover-and-the-Roswell-secret-the-real-abilities-that-humans-have&p=215696&viewfull=1#post215696)

Matt Simmons assassinated? (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?4671-Matt-Simmons-assassinated&p=43047&viewfull=1#post43047)

And according to this post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?25257-Tom-Bearden&p=262855&viewfull=1#post262855) "Bill tried to interview Tom Bearden" ( dont know if this is the case btw)



The following Tom Bearden video is one of the best I've discovered on Tesla technology:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Q8oKH_Ijww
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Q8oKH_Ijww

-update-
[Unfortunately the Tom Bearden video I linked above has been removed by YouTube, and I can find no replacement.]



The title of this thread, 'Tap on, Tap off, the tapper' is an obvious reference to the Scalar-wave weapons technology of the 'woodpecker phenomenon', which is all an evolution of Tesla technology. A review of this video will give one a much clearer understanding of what 7redorbs is talking about in his OP.

There was an attempt to include Bill Ryan in some radio interview that I once listened to. At the end of that interview, Mr. Bearden declined to take questions from Bill due to the hour. I wasn't able to relocate that interview. Possibly Bill will recall that incident.

The above video is one of the finest I've seen from Tom Bearden.

[7redorbs]

I am very sorry for not replying. I unfortunately have nothing to add.

I feel strongly that humanity is not as prepared as I thought. I sacrificed so much, even my health and safety, I'm not prepared to do that anymore.

Please keep looking, together they will not be able to stop you. Many comments on this thread are not particularly relevant to what I attempted to bring to the world.

The truth is, I'm deeply sorry; those interested should look up the difference between inductive and inventive methods and you will see the importance of them when dealing with any observation, scientific or philosophical. The mystery schools want it kept hidden, and I'm not going to expose myself any longer.

Those who enjoyed the thread you have my deepest respect, not everyone gets the opportunity we had. The truth is that nobody can consider themselves educated if they believe things they are unable to prove, it's very important, too many people believe in things they are unable to prove.

That would all be well and good, but the problem is that then, any fool, or liar can easily deceive and misdirect you - and I am sure those who were not aware of it would not want that anymore than those who are lucky enough to be. Frankly speaking education ain't what we think Babylon.

Peace & respect

Best,
A

[Kindred]

What happened to the text of the OP?

[noprophet]

What happened to the text of the OP?

Not sure...


So, for a long time I promised that I would bring some of the impressions I had observed to project Camelot forums.

For the last 10 years or so I have been involved in the researches and historic biography of several individuals involved in Electricity and free energy, including but not limited to the life of Nikola Tesla, Wilhelm Reich, Oliver Heaviside, Charles Proteus Steinmetz, Eric Dollard, Charles Wheatstone, Chris Carson, Kennely and James Clerk Maxwell and Faraday.

My work is really the sum total of a multitude of geniuses, and I take absolutely no credit for their work whatsoever. My work has broken me as a man, and challenged me as a soul, and I have the unfortunate duty of publishing my findings out to someone. I have known of Kerry and Bill for some time, and after some experiences of my own when I was starting out I find many of their video's a first-door to my understanding of this strange world. All of it, rooted in history, and that is where research should stay. I will not speculate in this post. I will tell you things that will turn you white and cause you to lose sleep, I do so because I have seen the future, there is no patents, it will be a crime, there is no energy scarcity either, or overpopulation. It is not illogical or a giant leap, it is a big universe out there, and I would like to be kind enough and honest enough to explain.


Most people know that Nikola Tesla from 1890 to 1914 was engaged in the development of A.C technology and for a short period of time worked under Edison Electric, later to become General Electric, which employed Steinmetz for some period in his life, a prominent Mathematician of his time that emigrated from Europe to America. What most people do not know is that the A.C system that Tesla developed was one of a myriad of important developments and advancements in the electrical system we have today.

Many are familiar with, and have no problem banding about the term "Marconi Wireless System", yet, their focus always is that Marconi stole Tesla's patents. This is true, Marconi - sort of stole them - by changing the waves the system employed, however, that is not the important part of the story.

The important part of the story is that in 1914-1919 the Marconi Wireless Installation was stolen from Marconi, an italian national, and placed under Military Government general rule command. This is of course not a joke, and you can check the formation of R.C.A yourself, and you will see that they "bought" Marconi Wireless Company.

Indeed, however, it was under statute of law. Frankly, the United States was terrified that the Alexanderson system and Marconi Wireless System would fall into foreign hands, such as Germany.

In any case, the Marconi System is not famously known for the fact that it exhibited wave forms that travelled 1.5645161290322580645161290322581 faster than the speed of light. Yes, that is right, and you likely will have never heard it before. You can check by reading Eric Dollards books on the subject of Tesla.

What is special about Eric Dollard as a source, as not only has he like Tesla demonstrated this Technology as working, but he was actually gainfully employed under R.C.A, is a foremostly recognised expert in Tesla, and gave the MOST ADVANCED lecture on Electrical Theory since Tesla, at the San Francisco Tesla Society.

In Bolinas, the Marconi Wireless facility was located, and, today, still stands testament to the most advanced electrical installation ever to exist on the planet earth. Eric Dollard writes, after having his lab taken away from him, his RCA equipment destroyed , confiscated or bulldozed by a SWAT team "that if commonweal and Point Reyes are allowed to continue allowing the old Marconi Wireless site to degrade it will be a great loss to humanity".

Nikola Tesla was involved with the Marconi site, I have a picture of him standing next to Steinmetz, Einstein and many other highly talented prodigies of the era. It is actually a fact that during these times most engineers thought that free energy was soon to be around the corner.

It is actually a fact that with the advent of the Marconi Wireless System exhibited two different waveforms that traveled along its aerial ground structure, it is based on the work of Marconi and Tesla, and the mathematics of Steinmetz, and makes use of the Multiple Loaded Flat Top Antennae (MLFTA). The Marconi Wireless System's (MLFTA) it exhibits 2 types of wave simultaneously, the LONGITUDINAL wave of 291,000miles/ per second & the TRANSVERSE wave of 186,000miles/per second. Of course most of us are familiar with the light speed TRANSVERSE SINUSOIDAL WAVE of 186,000miles per second, because it is what Einstein called C, the constant ratio between the exchange of energy and mass.

The marconi Wireless system was, as Dollard claims rightly, nothing short of absolutely spectacular, a truly marvelous achievement for humanity. That is, until Radio Corporation America and David Sarnoff taken over, under the government-military sponsored control programme.

Funnily enough, the Radio and TV we know today, consists of ONLY transverse (aka sinusoidal) wave forms, where the wave travels over space and time ONLY. This is what is known as "radiation resistance" by definition, as the sine wave is altering it's vector or phase direction along the wave, as set out and invented by Nikola Tesla's sytem of polyphase AC. In any case, the longitudinal wave of 291,000miles per second that existed in the Marconi Wireless System, until R.C.A pulled the plug, had a waveform shape that was infinitely flat, this is akin to a wave whose vector is concentrated, e.g. the longitudinal wave travels like pulling a rope. And the transverse wave we use today for our TV & Radio, it has a great deal of resistance, and, is much slower in the speed of propogation.

Let me explain a brain excercise so you can see this more clerely. Imagine if there was a nice little rope that went accross the universe for you, Joe is on one end, and Matilda is on the other. Joe pulls one end. What is the speed for the "transmission" of the wave? E.g. the binary C/W Data (information transmitted by pushing and pulling and sequencing). Well, the speed is pretty much instant, because the hole rope is connected and straight together, it is tort, so if one end pulls, the other is pulled instanteously.

This explains why Tesla felt he was able to claim to have "conceived a wave" that travels completely "regardless of distance". I am quoting Tesla directly. The nice thing about my post is, that you can see now how he came to this claim.

Interestingly enough Tesla also claimed he had contacted "aliens". This was I believe was attacked in the die-hard-press relentlessly. Regardless of the fact that if Tesla's rope, or the technical term, lines of force existed between all points in space, then Tesla may very well have transmitted basic communications to the entire universe simultaneously. Essentially triggering all Advanced installations throughout the entire universe to hear the C/W message. Indeed, if it propogated instanteously as Tesla claimed - then, truly, the galactic civilisations, if any existed, would have heard that message instanteously.

Perhaps that is why it is instanensouly suppressed and R.C.A founded, Tesla discredited, and also Tesla air-brushed from the Bolinas photo's that exist in Edison Archive today. Strange that. However, you can see the funny , and upsetting side of this. Why the defence department went bonkers, if or when they realised that Tesla may have unknowingly, or intentionally advertised the civilisation of man to the entire universe simultaneously. That was bound to irritate some people.

So, Marconi Wireless used Tesla's patents and the system comprised of 2 waveforms in it's multiple loaded flat top antennae ground-structure. Longitudinal waves which traveled at approximately 1.56 times the speed of light (push/pull of a rope) that traveled at 291,000mi/sec and transverse waves which traveled at 1.0 the speed of light or C, which were sinusoidal and spread out over space and time. Wheras the longitudinal wave was not spread out over space and time.

The transverse wave is like moving the rope that goes accross the universe up one end, instead of pushing and pulling. There is so much resistance in comparison to just pushing and pulling it. It of course also travels much slower. Which is why this is such a brilliant example/demonstration for people who do not understand Tesla's work with oscillating current & his Tesla Magnifying Transmitter, as well as his longitudinal telluric waveforms that he claimed "overcome distance". To people who know about Tesla already and find this surprising, it should not be at all surprising if you know about Tesla. Tesla claimed he had identified waves traveling 50 times C, or 50 times the speed of light inside his lab, most likely by an electrical or mechanical means of identification.

Tesla was a true genius who conceived a one wave longitudinal wave system, Marconi stole it and used 2 waves longitudinal and transverse to circumvent the Tesla patents, and then the government deemed it a military general controlled endeavour.

They actually sought the removal of public use of the longitudinal wave, substituting it with the inferior transverse system, the MLFTA was replaced with the Rhombic-D antennae, that we all are familiar with. Another interesting fact about this obvious suppression was that FM radio existed in 1930-1940 , see YANKEE RADIO, unfortunately though RCA and david sarnoff, thought it right to lobby for the FCC to change the FM radio band.

You see, Yankee radio did not need to use AT &T relay lines in their radio transmissions, unlike with Amplitude modulation, which suffers badly to hills. The problem for RCA, and sarnoff was that the RCA system was inferior to the AM system, so they had the FCC change the FM radio band.

Then all of a sudden when the FM radio's didn't transmit as reliably any more (which Sarnoff and RCA knew , which is why they lobbied), then Yankee Radio was essentially destroyed, and fair-competition non-existent, leaving a totally dominated government military control of the propagation media for news, commerce, radio. A terrible terrible terrible thing that has set back our nation 10's if not 100's of years or more. It leaves the "free development" of radio, and this so-called Electron technology in complete disarray, standing as testament to the greatest lie of the 21st century.

The Yankee Network was ruined, they were forced to lease out AT & T Lines, and what was a once superior FM radio , became a small non-important player in the affiliate war of commercial radio & TV. Indeed R.C.A & General Electric had it all figured out. The whole debacle unfortunately ended when the owner of Yankee Radio plummeted to his death. A testament to the cost of competing with the government military ran R.C.A AM technology.

Indeed both AM and FM are light speed communications. The point here is that R.C.A and government have been controlling the media since about 1914-1919 by use of the FCC, lobby groups, or by buying up, and taking over companies, aggressively, or by making it law, or defence initiative, in the case of R.C.A and the Marconi Wireless System.

The truth is I have not only researched the history of R.C.A and claims of Eric Dollard, Tesla & Wilhelm Reich and others, as to the legitimacy of this so-called illusive free energy. Better forget that word "free energy". Tesla and Marconi's work I outlined, specifically the marconi wireless system and the alexanderson alternator, well, they throw out the conception of "energy losses" altogether. The systems truly are the most advanced electrical installations ever to exist, and the removal of the longitudinal magneto dielectric wave propogations were the greatest defence initiative - to seek control over up-and-coming wave media, for command and control. This is truly a crime against humanity, and it was no wonder that Nikola Tesla was so embittered by the moves.

He of course had demonstrated his longitudinal wave to many people, as well as EFFECT preceding CAUSE. E.g. before the 2nd wire of an electrical circuit is closed, a blue vertical wave travels up from the ground, BEFORE the wire touches the circuit - that creates a large blue radial spark we call the spark - gap. Not only does this experiment prove that all electricity is being affected by the earths magnetic polar mass, but, that the wave traveling up, PRECEDING the wire being closed, is traveling ahead of time, or rather lagging in time, to the action of closing the terminal.

This is something I have actually succesfully replicated with the help of Edward Leedskalnins book on Magnetic Current, an ex NASA spacewatcher I know in Tidbinbilla, and the support of several extremely gifted individuals. Unfortunately much like Chris Carson, the man that truly taught me most of the important things about Magnetic Current and Magneto Electrics, he is just not the same anymore, he lives in Illinois and I worry for him.

I truly, truly, don't want the same thing to happen to me, so I want to bring this information, all of it, to all of you, without charge, without motive, without any reason for you to doubt it.

You see, the whole point of this is, that G.E, Marconi, the government and the military, they have motives, they have reasons. The history is there and you can prove that everything I said is true to yourself, by reading the biographies of Tesla, the Books of Eric Dollard, and by watching his San Francisco Tesla Society Lecture.

The world we live in today thus can exist as nothing short of a lie. At the very least an assumption of energy scarcity, and the strict control of radio airspace, allows for the repeated harassment, victimisation, and destruction of the most important technology to befall man since the discovery of Fire.

I want you to know, Thank you kindly for your reception. It is greatly appreciated.
END TRANSMISSION. Of course, having understood the complete works of Nikola Tesla and Edward Leedskalnin I am able to grant many who do not know what is going on one wonderful "truth". That the Pyramid Builders knew everything about the speed of light, the longitudinal wave that comes from the sun, and how that the longitudinal wave of 291,000mi/sec traveling from the sun, when it hits the mass of planets or moons, reflects the light speed we call light 186,000mi/sec.

My ex space watcher from Tidbinbilla, and Eric Dollard will be able to vouch for that. The SUN, it is not visible in space, you cannot see it. You only see reflections of the wave when it breaks apart, as transverse. This little gem right here, is not only why the Marconi Wireless System works, but why the universe confirms the waves to both exist, and most of science to be total utter trash. I believe Tesla used the phrase "works of fiction". He did not see the continuation of the electron circuits.

It is truly amazing that they consider their circuits closed, when the planets north and south poles rotating and changing direction is causing the volts in the wire to go up and down.

Do not worry I have written publications about this, I was lucky, as a musician and young boy of 16, I had actually suspected that what was going on was something like this. - I explain exactly how the Voltage in the wire goes up and down, and why it must be from planets. I even explain an experiment for a high resolution recorded video of a spark gap, in comparative conjunction with an astrological map of where the planet, particularly the moon is. What is significant is that the planets add up to conserve their north and south pole lines of force, so over time they go up and down equally.

That is called second order.

The work of Nikola Tesla, Eric Dollard, and my own devices, they all work with 3rd order or beyond. As a musician I was lucky, and, I want the world to be lucky too.

I don't want a single dime. Just, please.... do something with this because I don't know how to do something with it myself right now that would seriously benefit humanity in the way I know it rightly should, and I do believe I have proven that today to you.


Best Wishes,
Adam Bull

[Kindred]

Thank you Noprophet! I don't know why 7redorbs chose to remove his OP. Just the same, I am aware of much of what he describes. I have always felt that Nikola Tesla was a Far greater genius than many others, and more to the point, that All of his inventions were of far greater impact than any others. Also, I had seen the Eric Dollard video a while ago and thought it conveyed astounding information. But, given that the theories behind it were by Tesla, it was to be expected.

Now... to what he's offering. I'm not exactly certain what information he has, that others don't have. It can be seen that Eric Dollard has some of this info. I guess the aspect that is not addressed is that of the importance of Ed Leedskalnin's information, relative to Tesla's demonstrated theory, and how the two work together. The OP doesn't get into the details of these technologies, nor how they are combined, but simply provides a historical account, and makes the (perfectly plausible) suggestion that, together, these technologies can produce the 'holy grail' of power generation, that of an over-unity device.

I believe that Tesla himself was able to do just that, and provided a 'demonstration', via his Pierce-Arrow car, that he (allegedly) had built, and kept in a barn somewhere in the countryside around Niagara Falls.

I do hope the OP can find the wherewithal to disclose everything he's discovered, for if it can be quickly disseminated, then it will be hard to keep this under wraps for very long.

In Unity, Peace and Love

[Bo Atkinson]

Here i wish to continue my builder experiences, as inspired by Nikola Tesla - Patents Lectures Articles,.

Tesla's "Tower Architecture" may or may not have been the tower to power his famously suppressed car. I will offer more on this architecture further below, for potential continuation of this conversation..... Providing that Avalon will allow sensitive Tesla related discussions, in general.
Apaparatus For Transmitting Electrical Power - Patent1,119,732 Dec, 1, 1914
Search patent text for illustration-symbol P P . Note that these were called "half spherical elements". Apparently the multiple-spherical-elements would seem to refocus transmission pattern somewhat differently than would a single-large-smoothed-emitter. I wonder if it has to do with phrase shifting and some phenomena the two YouTubes present. Besides that, the general architectural concept of utilizing an array of spheroids, suggests sort of a fractal nature in the antenna, over all. The fractal nature, if it may be called as such, reinforced my decision to build coffers on my wavydome, (perhaps as a fractal aside).


http://harmoniouspalette.com/TeslaElectricalTowerArchitecture.gif

Obviously Morgan killed Tesla's architecture in it's bud. As the story goes. We do not have the story of full fruition, humanity's lost the full fruition. Humanity is left to other devices, as humanity struggles along. Yet many new geniuses and promoters and builders are born everywhere. My struggle is the struggling for art. May i add i have been mortally attacked (unsuccessfully) as well (and also suppressed in other ways). What could an attack on oneself have to do with this thread and Tesla inspired architecture? I have wondered myself.

An earlier patent caught my artist's eye. I integrated the essence of the form of it in my second built solar collector. Factually, there was no serious technical intention there. Rather it was just an 'inspirational' feeling, a wonderment. Indeed a general belief we should integrate technical gleanings with builder needs. I was a young man full of curiosity.

http://www.zerksus.com/images/caduceus1.jpg
(image credits on http://www.zerksus.com)
This is a commonly known form of self-countering, mutual-inductance. I am not especially familiar with other terms it might have. It is basically two coils contra-wound in electrical series. My text below combines this principle in a flat wound coil. A configuration which Tesla was fond of. I incorporated different, pre-existing concepts into a new one.

My first solar collector configuration was the simple flat spiral. Cold water goes in from the exterior, spiraling inward. Warmed water came 'out' from the concentric center. Lovely, i thought and with a smile.


http://harmoniouspalette.com/Tesla512340FlatCoil.gif

After building my first house-covering-dome, more hot water was needed. Time to try the second coil, in diagram above. Aha, change the circuitry for some fun too, why not? I had tried to understand inductance from the practical electrical side. I was fascinated by mutual inductance which to me spanned 'transformation', from radio transmission to power transformers. Primary architectural differences were in the material property selections. I was studying material sciences of manufacturing too. I admired one friend working for National Semiconductor, but also loved my artist fiends and earth-bound friends who struggle like me.... I was intrigued by the Yin-Yang lore besides. So i used the Yin-Yang principle in the flat coil center: As an 'S' shaped, soft copper pipe. This 'S' could then connect the two central incoming solar tubes.

http://harmoniouspalette.com/DoubleHelixCollectorl.gif

The above image shows the general shape, except in real life i made them more rectalinear to fit between mydome arches. The two outer tubes could interconnect several of these solar units of my solar heater collector. These were placed underneath the translucent dome cover. Great, now it could produce a little water on sunny days.....

http://harmoniouspalette.com/4SerieSolarCollector.gif

These graphics were just CAD generated without time for more precise rendering, of the originals. The illustrated concept is accurate for what these were. Four units connected in series, heating water, until....
One day i was working there, in our dome attic, when an unusually loud plane was heard coming closer. I ran down and out to see. It was a large propeller plane with a large tail like structure. It was flying at less than a hundred feet (30 meters), directly over the dome. I was amazed and curious.

Upon returning to attic, when water was trickling through the collector tubing, many fine leaks of water were observed! That was in the early 1980s... Some sort of penetrating radar was zapped down upon us in our home. It happened to cause this un-natural sort of fine spray leaking. Coming from the solar collectors. So why? My guess is that these coil configurations attracted interest in zapping them. It took a long time to cut out the bad sections with the fine leaks and then splice them. Two of the four modules were soon scrap, garbage. Fully riddles with very-small holes or pores. No other tubing or plumbing in the house got zapped. They really focussed on the Yin-Yang Helix coils. I just figured it must be goberment protecting us from ourself so we are protected from freedom. Like they think freedom is the enemy or terrorist or whatnot. Doublespeak even existed back then.

Thirty years later, two of the original four collectors remain as so:

http://harmoniouspalette.com/raygunnedSolar.jpg

The electrical aspect here relates to water as a conductor, so called. According to Tesla, conduction, as i listen to Dollard and to 7redorbs, occurs along (or spatially associated) with the surface of the wire. It is still not quite clear if these men infer it is the longitudinal waves of conduction, to which they refer or whether this is frequency band specific. Because in regular electronics which i learned, they taught this was high frequency conduction. Longitudinal (scalar?) 'waves' are said to rise 'infinitely'? Hence the so called extra-ordinary quality of them? It was not clear in any of this whether this would lead to the hoped for zero-point-free-energy quality. The energy grail of today. In fact, the OP and the Dollard YouTube both sounded very much like (conventional) DC pulse waves of long duration. All of which was very confusing for me.

[Bo Atkinson]

As a result of reading 7redorbs' post #32, a sense of some sort of duty compeled me stop my regular work today. Prioritize an effort to focus on this thread. Frankly, several confusions threw off all better hopes. Hopes which had encouraged me previously. I have great respect for the OP. Also for the irrepressible message it conveys. The full nature of the message will indeed escape one's initial grasp, initial readings. There are mountains of data in this thread. Our common brainwashing has yet to be cured, besides. May we all please help!


The understandable portion of the message can theoretically fit within a political slogan:

Electronic science was hijacked.... Restore Tesla's science of electricity.... Purge the dis-info in science.

However theoretical 'fittings' are weak. Therefore a call for action is perhaps more like:


Show the longitudinal spark in every class room.

Assist every consciousness to the good news of abundance, at the same time.

(Fend off the flack, the derision, the black helicopters)

(With love does anyone say? Then prepare for those 9 inch nails? The rough hewn cross?)


Here is the central part, IMHO:

Show the' incompressible' nature of longitudinal transmission medium.

(God knows what to call it, to heathens bent on burning witches).

Show the inefficiency of our currently used 'compressible' transmission medium.

Determine the available extent of implementation for this waveform, (hijacked though it remains).

I studied electronics a while and was turned off by the technical-syllabus-curriculum. Discouraged by the materialist prospects and devoted my young life elsewhere. I want to learn more about this this 'new' effort to restore Tesla's legacy. This legacy was always inspiring. Though the correct avenue to approach, was never completely clear (or affordable or readily-available).

Onwards:

google: "inductive + inventive + methods" = About 13,800,000 results (0.48 seconds)

First Link: http://www.experiment-resources.com/who-invented-the-scientific-method.html
A circuitous explanation emerges. Does it help? I wonder.

http://www.experiment-resources.com/images/reasoning-cycle-research.jpg

This paragraph still confuses my logic a little bit. Though tolerance provides workable interpretations:


7redorbs' in OP #1 wrote:
He of course had demonstrated his longitudinal wave to many people, as well as EFFECT preceding CAUSE. E.g. before the 2nd wire of an electrical circuit is closed, a blue vertical wave travels up from the ground, BEFORE the wire touches the circuit - that creates a large blue radial spark we call the spark - gap. Not only does this experiment prove that all electricity is being affected by the earths magnetic polar mass, but, that the wave traveling up, PRECEDING the wire being closed, is traveling ahead of time, or rather lagging in time, to the action of closing the terminal.

I'll end this coverage here in hopes it sparks some discussion. Let better minds input more action-thoughts. I expect my constitution is too integrative and builder-creative. Please someone, present this anew, a new breath, a new spark.

[observer]

[....snip]

I'll end this coverage here in hopes it sparks some discussion. Let better minds input more action-thoughts. I expect my constitution is too integrative and builder-creative. Please someone, present this anew, a new breath, a new spark.

I'm not quite sure if this will help, wavydome, but if you have looked at the video I offered from Dr. Tom Bearden in comment #31, and, of course, what 7redorbs said in his OP, and combine that understanding with the knowledge of cutting edge plasma physics, it might give you a grasps of the foundational physics involved in this Tesla technology.

"THUNDERBOLTS OF THE GODS"
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4773590301316220374&ei=kPM1SfiSDIruqAKNrdWkCQ&q=thunderbolts+of+the+gods+#

I realize this is a long research project, but there is something yet to be discovered in combining all this knowledge into one cohesive scientific understanding.

[Bo Atkinson]

Thanks observer, i loved Bearden's YouTube in post #31 . It is great to see what folks link on Avalon. It does seem more coherent, when so linked, rather than googling YouTubes, in the raw, without a discussion.

I actually wondered just how much any of these men. (all around), agreed about the distinctions of contrasted wave forms.This thread provided a sounding board to talk out deductions and observations all around. To see if others will speak.

[Simonm]

I really wish I fully understood what you all on about :) However, I find this absolutely fascinating.

[Bo Atkinson]

"THUNDERBOLTS OF THE GODS"
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4773590301316220374&ei=kPM1SfiSDIruqAKNrdWkCQ&q=thunderbolts+of+the+gods+#

I realize this is a long research project, but there is something yet to be discovered in combining all this knowledge into one cohesive scientific understanding.

This vid reminds me of the PBS vids. A mix of modern academia, ending up with the apocalyptic-comet-history of times long past. Perhaps even with a smile hinting at the 2012 what-ifs. One can only imagine what these academics would say of other 2012 presentations and commentaries.

The video did mention Anthony Peratt and Hannes Alfven.
I first discovered these researchers in the book,
The Big Bang Never Happened, Random House/Times Books, 1991
http://bigbangneverhappened.org/ Eric J. Lerner
I think he is or was working on a (plasma filament inspired) fusion reactor project.
http://focusfusion.org/index.php/site/category/C26

It was very refreshing for me as the 1980s were not interesting me with the string theories. Which seemed very odd prescriptions for dimensionality, (in physics). Actually i feel the string-theory flavor of 1980s physics aptly fits what Tesla decried, in the Tesla quote, above in Post #25.

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/imagenes_ciencia/sol48_03_small.jpg
Peratt's electric universe simulations and spiral filaments was interesting and stimulating for me.

I went to the local university library and found Alven's Magneto Hydrodynamics book. The following images predated all the coil ideas i was playing with (at a very crude and perhaps, somewhat fruitless level:
http://harmoniouspalette.com/CrossWaysCoil.html

The Alfven illustrations are clipped in the older style of a cross-section of a 3d model. These are more easily envisaged as tori. Or consider a torus with the donut hole merged to center, a hole of near zero diameter. Next envisage the the twisting the central donut edges... Next replace torus surfaces, with windings of an electromagnetic wires. Next replace the electromagnetic windings with filaments. Presto, the 19040s and so on.
http://harmoniouspalette.com/MagnetoHydrodynamicsPg128.gif

I had expected that the word 'poloidal' (as seen in image above), would have become a more important word inside of physics. I had myself been very motivated to wind coils like tori. Except and most importantly, to explore added 'twists'. Alfven and others used the word 'kink' instead of 'twist', (so it discovered). I experimented with a variety of configurations, mostly through the 1990s. Incorporating this 'poloidal' configuration. It struck me as something to do with orthogonal or angular interplay of magnetic fields. Which somehow resonate harmonic responses, of adjustable character. However, the lecture of Dollard seems to have dicouraged the values of electro-magnetic-inductive-geometric-exploration.

The Magneto Hydrodynamic observations of plasmas might or might not infer a "compressible nature". Whereas Tesla has seemed to stress the concept of longitudinal waves as possessing an "incompressible nature". (The taught rope was used to demonstrate the 'incompressibility' in terms of non-elasticity-- Which engineering ( and building) generally define as physical properties, (in terms of a graduating-effect). I felt that Tesla's original point was that power transmission and power handling was much more efficient in terms of 'incompressibility' or 'inelasticity'. Yet my assumption has been that Tesla was suppressed from further development of this aspect of science.

RE: Dollard Lecture/ Longitudinal Waves: That the force-manifestation, in terms of electric-field and magnetic-field should propagate unidirectionally, is upsetting to me--  Unless we maintain-intact the helical or the orthogonal flow relationships. I am prepared to be corrected in this, but the Dollard lecture does not specifically refute the classical relationship, which is and has been specified as an orthagonal relationship, (geometrically speaking).  I wish i could devote more time to experimentation, but still find myself busy with other mundane needs...

To confuse my passion in this study, fluid and elastic properties have to me seemed inherent in nature. Or is it in the effects of force, at the points of manifestation-- That elasticity enters the picture. I was stuck on a variety of alternative ideas of a common constituent precursor, a precursor of gravity and magnetism, which would in a sense unify the currently disparate fields studied by physics, My alternative interests were most of all inspired by Tesla's fascinating works. My approach has been integrative and unifying, despite it's imperfections.

The image or figure below, (from the same book: Magneto Hydrodynamics), was another reinforcement' for my excursion into 'ring-reinforcement' http://harmoniouspalette.com/ringforcement.html
This ringforcement refers to my coffer illustration in post #27 above. Combining of disparate concepts into a new integrative-concept. Combining Tesla's "half spherical elements" with this dynamic visualization of Alfven, along with ferrocement. Perhaps a bit exaggerated unless one thinks outside the box.
http://harmoniouspalette.com/ElectronGasInReflectingWalls.gif

[nearing]

:horn::bump:

[7redorbs]

I am also happy to entertain relevant questions to the subject.

Please, I don't want to talk about the apocalypse, or comet history. Seriously. That is not what this thread is about.

Best,
A

[Bo Atkinson]

A,

I offerred to remove my posts from your thread, on your user profile/ Visitor Messages page, 3 days ago. I was not sure my posts were so off topic. You presented a very wide area of history. All threads here get wide varieties of posts. If you are asking for removal of my posts, i will accept your say so. Perhaps the mods can do a better job of deleting them. I don't know how to delete the empty spaces after text is removed. I put a lot of effort into my posts and can move the content off of Avalon.

I seem to be off topic, reading your post #43. I admit to some uncertainty of what you would like for responses. Perhaps this will clear the air, as you would like.

Please advise,
w

[mosquito]

This is a fascinating and VERY IMPORTANT thread. 7redorbs, I'm not sure where you want to go wit this, we all appreciate what you're doing here, the lid is now OFF the can of worms, but I understand if you feel you don't want any further involvement. Wavydome - some excellent material, thanks !

My appeal is please, neither of you give up on this ! It's one of the issues central to the liberation of humanity, if not the issue.

I have some thoughts and ideas I want to share, from years of pondering and meditation, combined with surface-scratching scientific study, but I want to write it carefully and thoughtfully (and therefore a little slowly, sorry !), rather than just dump a load of gibberish here.

Very quickly though - to anyone reading this who is struggling to comprehend what's being discussed, a lot of these concepts (especially effect preceding cause) are extremely difficult to grasp in a linear, rational way, but please don't dismiss what's being said, or give up on trying to understand.

More later.

Philip

[observer]

[....snip]
I seem to be off topic, reading your post #43. I admit to some uncertainty of what you would like for responses. Perhaps this will clear the air, as you would like.

Please advise,
w

Yes, wavydome, I too feel maybe I'm in the same boat.

I posted the Tom Bearden, and the Thunderbolts videos because I felt they were both relevant to what 7redorbs was talking about, at least on a foundation of understanding level.

The point of the Thunderbolts videos was that the entire universe is electrical in nature. This is in direct opposition to the conventional model.

To remove a post, simply edit away all the text and add in the place of that text a note similar to this: "Comment removed by (add your nic)".

I will also await 7redorb's input.

[Bo Atkinson]

To remove a post, simply edit away all the text and add in the place of that text a note similar to this: "Comment removed by (add your nic)".

I will also await 7redorb's input.

In my case, this would add up to 11 (eleven) empty posts.

Eleven empty posts plus still other empty posts would not benefit this thread, IMHO.

Repeating the same removal note to each does not help either.

Avalon seems to allow eclectic free-for-alls.
I wonder why post at all. Except there does seem to be value in diversity of expression.
There does seem to be great value in "getting it out there and having one or two humans read it".

I have some additioanal Tesla "conceptual-experiments" to share as well.

I agree with you observer, the "electric universe" concepts must tie in with Tesla and other suppressed researchers.

So far Avalon seems to accept such discussion. With Thanks w

[Simonm]

This seems the perfect place for those that know to really inform those of us that have no idea. If it drifts a bit then so what? Lets get all this back out to the people that can make a difference, or am I being too simplistic?

[observer]

I am also happy to entertain relevant questions to the subject.

Please, I don't want to talk about the apocalypse, or comet history. Seriously. That is not what this thread is about.

Best,
A

I promise I won't bring-up comets again 7redorbs. I posted that "Thunderbolts" video because it gives a foundational understanding of the physics behind Tesla technology - cutting edge plasma physics.

Without the understanding that we live in an Electric Universe, one has no grasps of what Tesla was doing.


This seems the perfect place for those that know to really inform those of us that have no idea. If it drifts a bit then so what? Lets get all this back out to the people that can make a difference, or am I being too simplistic?


However, in light of Simonm's comment, and for those members with limited understanding of what is being discussed in this thread, I will speak further on lightning.

http://i47.tinypic.com/516cdi.jpg

Until recently, mainstream science only recognized three states of mater, solid, liquid, or gas. Any elemental atom can be effected into one of these three states by heat.

It has recently been discovered, that plasma is the fourth state of mater. Plasma can only occur within an electromagnetic field.

Lightning is a plasma discharge.

Tesla was creating plasma out of the active vacuum, or ethers, in his lab in Colorado Springs, CO. (In hyperdimensional physics, some physicists understand the active vacuum to be a pathway to an alternate dimension.)

Within another Tom Bearden presentation I once listened to (not the one I posted above), Bearden spoke of how Tesla was altering the frame of a generator and pulling energy from the vacuum.

All electric motors, and thereby all electric generators are built to National Electrical Manufacturers Association (NEMA) specifications with the fields (windings) arranged in a symmetrical configuration. An electric motor is nothing more than an electric generator working with its fields in reverse. The inner core, or armature is the part that spins. The frame is the stationary portion. Both the armature, and the frame are wound with coils of wire called the 'fields'.

In Tesla's lab, he was building generators with asymmetrical field arrangements. According to Bearden, this produced vast amounts of over unity (0-point) energy that was never utilized by the industry. In fact this technology was suppressed.

If this description is not foundational understanding to where 7redorbs is heading with this thread , then I'll retire from commenting.

[Simonm]

Many thanks to Observer. However, personally I still don't see why anyone should cease posting, and I hope they don't. This is a fascinating subject to read about. Please, everyone, post what you know so that idiots like me can learn something important.

[Bo Atkinson]

Many thanks to Observer. However, personally I still don't see why anyone should cease posting, and I hope they don't. This is a fascinating subject to read about. Please, everyone, post what you know so that idiots like me can learn something important.

Simonm, I like your attitude. Please ask 7redorbs a question. A question he would "also be happy to entertain".


7redorbs wrote:
I am also happy to entertain relevant questions to the subject.

[Simonm]

Many thanks to Observer. However, personally I still don't see why anyone should cease posting, and I hope they don't. This is a fascinating subject to read about. Please, everyone, post what you know so that idiots like me can learn something important.

Simonm, I like your attitude. Please ask 7redorbs a question. A question he would "also be happy to entertain".


7redorbs wrote:
I am also happy to entertain relevant questions to the subject.


Thankyou, unfortunately, I really wouldn't know what to ask of any of you. It's only in the last year that I even heard of the full story of Tesla and his discoveries. I'd love to hear more of his theories and that of modern day exponants in the same field. The fact that modern electrics are a fraction of it's true nature. The fact that electricity travels faster than light?? The first time I found anything out of the norm regarding energy production was the theory in the film Thrive.

My only request is that yourself and 7redorbs keep posting and I hope that others are clever enough to ask the right question.

Many many thanks

Simon

[heyokah]

****

Hi 7redorbs,

You are probably very busy, but I saw you have been reading these replies....

As you started this thread, please give these members, who are seriously interested in the material, an answer, advice, input, whatever ....... :nod:


Peace & respect,

Best,
h

****

[Bo Atkinson]

I am also happy to entertain relevant questions to the subject.


A

Please entertain the notion of providing sequential labels or subtitles, or sequential commentary. To be embedded in your video (Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTriBftOPtw)

Otherwise, without the benefit of closer up view, without benefit of the magnified view of the umbrella tapping the arc, without better lighting... It is not actually clear what is going on there. BTW, i love arcs.... Without the benefit of a list , of experimental test apparatus, methods used, summary, experimenter's observations, conclusions... perhaps even the potentials of replication by others... Then we get a free for all, here.

wav ωΩ

[Bo Atkinson]

This post has been deleted by me. Thanks to a fine school teacher's advice. I'll try to think of something more apt to write here, later.

ωΩ

[heyokah]

I have to think of John Searl, the man who keeps dreaming, with his Searl-Effect Generator(SEG)

http://searlsolution.com/johnsearl.html

John Searl is one of the most controversial figures in Antigravity research, but since beginning his work in the 1940's, he's arguably become "the father of modern Antigravity".
His claim is simple: that after a childhood dream showing a rotating set of rollers on a metallic ring, he constructed a device called the Searl Effect Generator (SEG) that seems to produce massive Antigravitational thrust.
Searl is one of the cultural icons in the Antigravity movement.



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John Roy Robert Searl (born 2 May 1932) is the inventor of the Searl Effect Generator (SEG) and the Inverse Gravity Vehicle (IGV), both are open system (system theory) energy converting devices, utilizing linear motor technology with sets of multi-phased rollers riding on a magnetic bearing.
An electrical autodidact, Searl conducted his initial experimental research and development from 1946 to 1956.
The SEG successfully generated electricity, but also unexpectedly repelled itself from the earth’s gravity with a powerful lifting force; subsequently he was able to control it with the development of the IGV.


From:
http://peswiki.com/index.php/PowerPedia:John_Searl


Here is a link to The Searl Effect Website

http://searleffect.com/free/allaccess/allaccess.html

Here a link to the Searlsolution site

http://searlsolution.com/

[heyokah]

Well, this is a sort of deleting......I think LOL

[Bo Atkinson]

A wrote:
e.g. I don't want credit. I want patents


How would Avalon address this comment? What would you wish to see posted here, which will address this or entertain this, from your perspective?

ωΩ


Hi, wavydome.

Actually A wrote: e.g. I don't want credit. I want patents, and the lie of energy scarcity to end.


Or did I miss something here?

heyoke, good person,

If the fact is that i should always include all parts of a quoted sentence, perhaps then it was i who missed something. My regrets in that case, for failing to get there, in this regard.

I meant no disrespect. Rather only to ask for clarification about that part of a sentence.

With thanks for all the hard work, we all do to clarify our difficult positions in life. Which a times expose us and to more difficulties. May we all transform the world into better ways for tomorrow.

~wav

[observer]

A wrote:
e.g. I don't want credit. I want patents, and the lie of energy scarcity to end. [edit of quoted text by observer]


It would seem to me, possibly the reason our mysterious Mr. Bull isn't offering any further information is due to his desire for financial reward in this process.

Financial reward is "Credit" in one form.

There is additionally the possibility that what he has discovered could get him put to sleep - permanently.

This could also be a contributing factor in Mr. Bull's hesitance.

Just my observation....

[heyokah]

"I don't want credit. I want patents, and the lie of energy scarcity to end."

It all depends on the comma (,) after the word patents.
Was it meant to be there or only a grammatical mistake.....
When you read it without a comma, as I did (being somewhat dyslectic LOL), the meaning is completely different.

[Bo Atkinson]

[QUOTE=observer;509692]
It would seem to me, possibly the reason our mysterious Mr. Bull isn't offering any further information is due to his desire for financial reward in this process.

Financial reward is "Credit" in one form.

There is additionally the possibility that what he has discovered could get him put to sleep - permanently.

This could also be a contributing factor in Mr. Bull's hesitance.

Just my observation....

observer, you got me wondering too now...... zzzzzzzzz oops not yet ;)

~wav~

[Bo Atkinson]

"I don't want credit. I want patents, and the lie of energy scarcity to end."

It all depends on the comma (,) after the word patents.
Was it meant to be there or only a grammatical mistake.....
When you read it without a comma, as I did (being somewhat dyslectic LOL), the meaning is completely different.

Yes....


~wav~

I just have to add here that the biggest joke was on me!

It was back in the 1980s that i believed my concepts could sell on the local market of housing booms.... I came up with a theory that the promotional name should be " cap-it-all construction". (Cap-it-all = dome-attic-greenhouse.) As in the idea of a garden in the attic.

You know what? The hot-shots (sociopaths), sent a well timed hit squad. Several groups of people came to our small two part home-business-- Including a seedling business (my wife's) and my sculpted-garden-concrete-items, businesses (... Aledgedly to buy our products... But one set of these groups walked all over our private home, unattended, as if to find something suspicious and perhaps illegal there. We were amazed, once again. The agendas people have to attack us and profit from anything in their demented state of ego ^__^

I was actually trying to sell my skills at home building. But starting from the lowest level of hand laborer. Joke is on me.


Life has so many strange lessons.

[Dennis Leahy]

... Remember, I don't want anything, ...

e.g. I don't want credit. I want patents...
Best,
A
Hi Adam,

If you do a bit of research on the term "Secrecy Order", you will realize that going to the patent office will guarantee any idea that shakes up the status quo of Big Energy will be stopped DEAD in its tracks. If you doth protest, you will be stopped dead in your tracks.

If you actually, honestly, and really have something marvelous to share, simply share it - and make it snappy. If you are seen as a threat to Big Energy, you are already a target. Immediately publish, in public, every diagram and formula: open source. Open source is your only chance to get the info out to the world. No one can steal it from you because you won't own it, and it cannot be suppressed if thousands of people know all about it. You have exactly ONE chance.

Dennis

[7redorbs]

... Remember, I don't want anything, ...

e.g. I don't want credit. I want patents...
Best,
A
Hi Adam,

If you do a bit of research on the term "Secrecy Order", you will realize that going to the patent office will guarantee any idea that shakes up the status quo of Big Energy will be stopped DEAD in its tracks. If you doth protest, you will be stopped dead in your tracks.

If you actually, honestly, and really have something marvelous to share, simply share it - and make it snappy. If you are seen as a threat to Big Energy, you are already a target. Immediately publish, in public, every diagram and formula: open source. Open source is your only chance to get the info out to the world. No one can steal it from you because you won't own it, and it cannot be suppressed if thousands of people know all about it. You have exactly ONE chance.

Dennis

OK. I will try my best. Here is a primer on the importance of Electricity, and it's part in the Chemical and Biological systems. As well as the importance of approach and observation , are essentially the only barrier to our Doctors & Scientists killing us.

If you've ever seen a nuclear bomb you know what I'm on about. It's menacing destruction to say the least. For me though it's tantamount to torture, because I'm very well aware that there are much safer ways for both industrial and scientific development could go. I will provide an example of the danger of industry and commerce. Or "For profit" development "for humanity".

Hmmmmm..... if that isn't a contradiction, y'know, what is? Our society is based on this bull****.

Each mind consists of electrical currents coursing through it like branches of a tree fill the air elevated above the ground. These electrical currents in the mind are rooted, much like the structure of the tree to the ground.

The electrical currents inside the mind, they are triggered when signal from cell. This means the physical senses of communication propagate through these tree-like paths. Every emotion and feeling has a distinct electrical signature.

The brain is able to detect the difference (in engineering called a differential) of the current that runs from it, and to and from the body. There are two currents, reception and transmission in the nervous system.

High amplitude impulses are indicate pain, or organ break down, such as the teeth or the heart, or stomach. This is what we call a shooting pain. It is high amplitude and high frequency in it's nature, and it causes the vibration of the heart or other organs. These such electrical conditions indicate the failure of the bodies electrical and physical symbiosis.

The doctors, they are very evil men, the drug makers - more so. You see, the organ , such as the stomach, or the liver, or the kidney, it does not get sick because "it lacks something" or because it is "weak". Those organs, they become weak through the chemical, biological and electrical processes.

A person who eats too much sugar destroys ones' kidney - and stresses it too. A person who drinks alcohol aswell, they damage it, whilst it is stressed. The kidney is unable to save the stomach, and the heart, and the blood vessels and lungs from the same afflictions they might otherwise had been able to via ultra eutrification, and the failure of one organ of physical was caused by the mind's desires. The single failure of the mind, and the kidneys, caused failure of the blood and the cells within, and they failed the most important part's of the body, the lungs and the heart.

Eating just sugar is capable of breaking one organ. Only organs are capable of making people sick. IF the scientists and money-makers wished to make people well and create a good medical science, they would have observed that it is NOT the treatment of an organ that makes a person well, it is the observation that an action , or several combinations of actions, at once, and over time, caused a degeneration in a single organ, which possesses a critical and cumulative effect to the other interdependent systems. A slight failure in the heart, is followed by a slight failure in oxygen supply from the lungs. Which causes degradation in the heart, which causes degradations in the lungs, which causes degradation in the mind. Do you see where I'm going? When you fail to look after one thing, the others all follow in quick succession. This is akin to the human family but inside the organ system. Sound familiar? IT should to the remainder of the slaughtered tribes. Yes, this is ancient medicine.

Such a euphemism is equivalent to saying the heart needs the lungs to provide it oxygen continually, and the brain and nervous system needs this from the lungs too, to continue communicating with that heart electrically. Water is needed aswell to carry that electrical signals from the brain to the heart, and the signal from the lungs and diaphragm too. (Ever wondered why you can consciously and unconsciously control breathing? It's an electrical nervous system that is rigged into your brain directly.)

I have given direct proof : The heart needed the lungs to provide the oxygen for its existence, electrically and cellularly. The lungs need the heart to continue beating electrically and cellularly - if the heart stops, the lungs are unable to keep the heart alive. And if the lungs are unable to keep the heart alive, the lungs are unable to keep the heart. The systems are connected, and interdependent.

Had the vatican and other luciferians not gone out of their way to totally oblierate the natural medicine system of the shaman's in Africa, all human beings would think this way. Democrats and so-called capitalist freedom lovers would prefer it too, but currently they call it "holistic", and they are misguided by the calming,(but chilling) words of science, that a "universal approach is unnecessary and foolhardy".

They go on and on for hours, years decades and centuries about how important it is to divide reality so that it can be understood. They do this and chemists have no idea how biology is supposed to work, and biologists have no idea how physics works. Yet in the human body it is clear, they are all at work, and it is also clear because of how we decided to approach it as a modern civilisation we are unable to fathom this, intellectually or spiritually. What does it matter you say?

It matters that whilst the entire body of so-called sane thinking scientists, continue to split the world up , so that it isn't an "unordered mess they do not understand", that "unordered mess" they are talking about - it is the human body. This directly means by logical construct and natural philosophy, that the reluctance to consider the chemical, biological and physical systems to be interactive, and inductive theory to be based on it, has resulted in the misgiven and delusive notion that these faculties would somehow exist as separate systems; they are not, the human body shows it.

So you can see it's clear why we are all so sick, the very thing we are - chemical's, matter, and electricity and biology in symbiosis, is the very opposite direction to that which science has marched. The age of "It shouldn't be doing that" is the height of the Scientific fiction. Had they realised that the human body worked much like the rest of the universe, they would have realised that "treatment" being prescribed was like a perfect metaphor for pulling out one stop of an Organ, which is attached by string to each of the rest by a ratio of electro-biological chemical mineral enzymatic and electro-bio-feedback kind". You cannot change one current in the body without altering another.

They are treating people right now, considering a limited number of currents. They are changing one current in the body, without realising that many others are altered, and they are not experts - nobody is an expert.

It all could have been avoided if they didn't consider that treatment was that of a condition; and the condition is something that is mostly created by treatments of different conditional changes of the electrical, mineral, and conductive balance of the bio-electrical system. Yes this is suppressed science.

Yes they really are using the inventive method to treat cancer, and illness, and aids. When the inductive method can display a system of complexity that is beyond the interest, or self-considered-grasp of scientists.

That is why they are so mad about splitting it up, and isolating it, and making it double blind you see- because they have ABSOLUTELY NO CLUE how things are connected together. Had they some consideration of the inter-dependability of significant variables, then they would realise their double-blind experiments are equally useless unless they are "GODS" capable of isolating every single variation of the test subject, genetically, chemically, electrically, equatorially, and their angle to the sun.

Most people that have side effects of sniffing the floor and trying to walk their dog upside down, don't expect that the angle of rotations of planets, and electrical fields insulating and penetrating their body currents of blood in golden ratio tubes called veins and arteries, effects the enzymatic and climatic balance of nearly every single one of their systems - they consider it a "side effect". OR rather, something that the scientists that prescribed it, don't entirely understand.

Had they understood it, then it would be entirely unpresent. As things that are unpleasant generally should. Of course unless money had something to do with it.

Just because the suppressed the Shamans in Africa. They lost holistic healing and medicine wheel' the cells within cells. Not just a bull**** way of thinking that is the opposite of science. Proof that science marches in the opposite direction of the FULLY UNIFIED ONE of mind body spirit, biology, chemistry and physical matter - all in one. So for those who wonder why science is dehumanising; it can and should hardly be a surprise to you. I just explained that WHAT WE ARE as systems of inderdependant electrical biological and chemical and physical arrangements they are in contradiction with science's "LAW" of separation and isolation.

And any method of science that works this way, always ignores the universal.

They are of course totally oblivious to the fact that the reason things were split up in the first place, was because we were not gods that could understand how universal action interacted, how the universal system of biology chemistry and physical electricity we knew to exist (all life) WAS.

That is why we split it (the universe) up, to understand the universal, because we were not gods that could see the beautiful interaction that we KNOW EXISTS, or we would not have separated it into faculty to start with !! This is obvious!!!

They have forgotten we split up the universe and sciences into faculty, because "WE WERE NOT GODS THAT COULD NOT KNOW EVERY VARIABLE AND SEE ITS WONDER AND BEAUTY IN INTERACTION".

They march on in experiments, supposedly isolating things, when they are not, and they call it "the best approach". They play god, whilst simultaneously denying the "God", or "connected universe" Within.

They would much prefer a battle of "Noahs Ark versus Quantum Electro Dynamics". Instead we have a science that is ultimately brilliant, versus an ultimately decrepid and old system of shamanism. Shamanism with the tools of science, would be able to create electrical, chemical, and physical-matter in reactance with their environment to achieve wonders that surely have not been achieved for almost 36,000 years now. Indeed, what I am talking about is no short than the Technology for a New Babylon, and it's suppression. And the death of literally countless millions and billions, because of the reluctance, and in some cases, darn right insistence of a method that was DESIGNED TO UNDERSTAND THE UNIVERSAL PROGRESSIVELY BY "fictional abstractions" of isolation.

They march on with their isolation, regardless they are not gods to split the universal forces, and thus in many cases they "FAIL TO SEPARATE THEIR EXPERIMENTS FROM THUS FAR UNKNOWN FORCES" - i.e.make the same fictional conclusions, not based on inductive hypothesis, but based on the inventive abstractive context of describing a system that is ISOLATED and thus MIS-REPRESENTATIVE fiction of real scenario's.

This is exactly according to Tesla's best work- and Tesla himself felt strongly about the importance of observation. Indeed Tesla himself said that "For more than eighteen years I have been reading treatises, reports of scientific transactions, and articles on Hertz-wave telegraphy, to keep myself informed, but they have always imprest me like works of fiction.".

Well they are still marching on with hertz waves, and those "silly phones". 3G, for 3 Gigahertz. They emit Transverse waves of 186,000 miles per second. So far einstein agree's with that, just nothing going any faster.

The interesting thing is that the 186,000miles per second waves from the microwave signals of the phone. They dislodge Deoxyribone nuclear acid from your cellular matter. The transverse waves from your mobile phone, they are at a very low amplitude that would serve to diminish a totally destructive effect of this transverse wave - though you can expect the radiation resistance of the transverse light speed wave to damage your DNA and RNA sequences. Don't worry though , the FDA and their BEST SCIENTISTS have determined it to be entirely safe.

Funnily enough Tesla determined his technology, that traveled faster than light, (291,000miles per second and faster) - was entirely harmless to the body. Mainly because the radiation resistance was 0. e.g. instead of an L shaped transverse radio/electrical energy wave, he worked with an infinitely flat magneto dielectric longitudinal wave. Much like the skin effect, it's propogation - it does not go through your brain , at least if you had a mobile phone that Used the Tesla Wireless.

Oh well. Money came first folks.

I think this is sort of what you wanted - I hate mysticism, just as much as my teachers dislike "Asteroid" "Meteor" and "New Age" comments, that does not mean we are not proponents of it. IT simply means that Bearden and Searl disinformation seek to mislead the observational mind. In my mind, I consider this intentional.

Some have recently suggestions I wanted to make money out of this, this could not be further from the truth. I am very well aware that everything I have told you, If I am correct, neccissitates the insttaneous death and destruction of money, tax and other land value inflation. Indeed there is a very large plot available. Just not within the minds of men. My tears are shed because I am not convinced that the minds of men consider things as I. Afterall that is why I would come here in the first place.

Not only does the moon put that billions of trillions of watts of energy from it's MOVEMENT ALONE, into the long-fluid-conductor we call the OCEAN, but Tesla found a way to intercept all of the energy, before it even reached the sea on the earth.

In short Tesla found a way to power the world for free. Then , enough to power it 1000 times over, every year, forever. There would be so much free energy people would be able to create gold in their own personal 500 KVA (500 Kilovolt Ampere) Flywheels. The Fed, and other criminal enterprises would quickly vanish, and a military that considered itself superior in production, distillation or other high-tech means, would find that any man or woman could compete.

Indeed they'd have a power source that could power lasers.

IT scares the hell out of them. Rightly so. I want this to be public and people to benefit from it. So here you are. Take it how you like! :) I will say though, do you think that I would have been doing this non-stop for 5 years regardless to the amount of money I had?

If you check I have no money. I create experiments out of old equipment that others consider worthless. So did Edward Leedskalnin and he managed to re-create what he described as the Secrets of the Pyramid Builders, with no less than a flywheel, chain, 5 stacked layers of V magnets around a wheel in NN SS configuration, a J hook hanging above, several peices of wood in the north and in the west. And several elevetated capacitance aerial spools above the flywheel. All wrapped around at 15 degree intersections, and with the V magnets inhabiting EACHOTHERS field by being PUSHED NEAR EACHOTHER as to repel but being ENCASED in PURE CONCRETE, whereby the magnetic field is altered. Physicists invent names for it now, but you will note that must of what Leedskalnin worked with - including symbols , shapes and depictions, they not only match his electrical work, but fit with the descriptions he makes in his great book magnetic current.

Edward Leedskalnin was a brilliant man, a truly brilliant man, much like Tesla. He applied for his patents, he never got them. I'll never apply for any patent, because I know with assuredness that they will be an illegal claim in the future. Nobody can own anything that is a force that exists in the universe - and so they cannot own the device and it's rights, as it is akin to owning the force and the universe itself.

You see these evil men, they all have something in common.

They think they are god. We are here to take that privilege away from them. They are not gods. They are dangerous, petit minded, short sighted people. They would frolic in the chance to laugh at things that are genuinely beyond their spiritual and intellectual capacity. Indeed, such evil men, they have no desire to punish themselves.

Or translated, they have no desire for the truth. Absolute. For anyone who asked for advice. My advice is to make sure we don't end up like that. The scientists they think they know what educated is. For me educated means that we are prepared and ABLE to believe in things that we are able to prove. It means though that people who are not who they appear to be, or honest and as wise as they appear to be, they will not fool me. This is what the scientific method establishes itself to be, but it isn't. It's a great work of fiction. I'm telling you now, electrons, they don't even exist. So you ask - "wtf is going around in all of our electrical circuits."

Good question.

They (Scientist and engineers) haven't the foggiest. Physicists concentrate on how the positive terminal works... and engineers are obsessed with the negative. Sound familiar? Sounds a bit like chemistry and biology, electricity and chemistry, a human body that describes and facilitates them all, universally, and a continuing ignorance as to their energies being representational abstractions of eachother. Much like the way that Tesla and Dollard proven without doubt that DIELECTRIC and MAGNETIC field are ENTIRELY SEPARATE.

IT is not a complicated mistake. What they did wrong is simple. You can test it too. All you have to do is go back to Maxwell Version I, and Oliver Heaviside and Quaternions and you will see that the work is not finished. All the best work isn't.

Sorry, did I hear someone say profit? All the BEST work isn't. It's funny really. I gave all the historic details of the R.C.A suppression in one post. I would have expected more focused and concerned replies on this subject. Perhaps people do not realise HOW GRAVELY IMPORTANT IT IS? People who want to know the "secrets" of my work. You don't have to look far.

I've discovered that the electron doesn't exist. It is not a new discovery. Tesla, Leedskalnin, Pyramid Builders. This is not a joke guys. The scientists say that the electron goes round the electrical cable in one direction. This is bull****. I have proven it to be by experimentation. All you need to do is get an array of magnets and hang them above running wire. You'll see that its a magnetic field of north and south going through each wire. Just as Leedskalnin said, to run one current you will have to run the other.

I've come to the conclusion, this stuff isn't hard. Neither is the basis of the claims I make. Understanding the reasoning as to why this "must be". That is either very difficult, or banned as far as I can make out.

Some of the responses I've seen at the very least suggest this may be the case,


Best,
A

[Dennis Leahy]

OK, keep going, spill the beans. Give us all the info we need to produce working "free energy" devices. Right here, right now. Open source. The geniuses like Tesla did not understand the corrupt, self-serving nature of government in collusion with Big Energy. Sounds like you do understand this. Our only chance is someone putting the info on the Internet, open source.

Dennis

[7redorbs]

Hi Dennis,

I think that is enough for now. Electrons don't exist. The circuit has more than 1 direction of electron flow. There is 2 directions of flow. North and south Pole, they run against eachother, just like in Newtons Theory.

This open and closed circuit bull****. Throw it away. It's just a name for externally induced and internally induced currents. Since the latter DOES NOT EXIST because all particles are entangled with other current-systems as mentioned above - then the OPEN SYSTEM is the only system that actually exists and operates. Yup the "Closed circuit" fiction we've assumed for the last century.
It's total fiction.

E.g. power lines that would be considered CLOSED CIRCUITS. Yeah well - they are OPEN. OPEN AS CAN BE. If you don't think this so, wait for a strong Aurora Borealis. Then you'll see how open that "closed circuit" always was.

Open circuits have become "popular", because enough engineers and scientists have succesfully documented that photons and electrons from outer space can effect the voltage in a wire (or at least the phase velocity). THE TRUTH is that the Open circuit is ALL there is. nothing can be entirely insulated or isolated, just like nothing can be an absolute vacuum or absolute 0 Kelvin. Not yet anyway.

(since that is practically Q.E.D anyway) - it isn't a great leap, even from the dysfunctional physics that we have today. Mainly because most abstractive concepts cannot entirely remove the presence of the "reality" but rather repackage it into convenient, if not entirely misrepresented fictions. But even fiction is based on some small truth. The electron, is "there", if you like it to be. It's because the north and south (equal and opposite as Newton said so) magnetic currents that flow in TWO DIRECTIONS in a wire collide, and create RADIATION RESISTANCE.

Electrons are "real". But the observation of Electrons is entirely fictional. "electrons" They are created by running north pole and south pole magnets against eachother. So the "1 orbit electron" consists of 2 orbits, or 2 sides. Tesla gave the propogation of his waves as pi / 2 * C. I wonder why. So electrons, the so-called base of our period table differences.

They aren't ELECTRONS. They are magnetic orbits. Yes. This applies to the PERIODIC TABLE. They are orbiting north and south poles FOR EACH electron that is supposedly orbiting in our PERIOD TABLE. The PERIODIC TABLE representing electrons is "WRONG", if each they consist of both North And South Pole.

8 is the "maximum" number of electrons (or spinning particles) in conventional science. My science, Leedskalnins and Tesla' said there are 16 ORBITS not 8. Each electron orbit needs representing by a North and South Pole. The problem was the equipment, and the waveform and velocity of the equipment we used to measure the PERIODIC ELEMENTS. That is why we only saw 8 electrons. We saw the interaction of the NORTH AND SOUTH POLE.

SIMPLE.


Tesla gave:

(phase) Velocity = pi / 2 * C (or speed of light....)


hmmm..... Now you know what the /2 is for. There is a half wave. North pole. and the other half of the wave is the South pole. The earth, like most planets has a north and south pole. The moon has a north and south pole. The moons north pole pushes against the earths north pole, and the earths south pole it keeps the moons south pole far away. If the moon was rotated, 1/2, then it would fall surely to the earth...(and just think about the energy involved to rotate it versus the energy from it exploding).

Turning the moon, or altering the angles of it's poles, created the energy , or attraction, for it to "fall" to the earth. I don't know about you but it looks like gravity and electricity isn't what we think it is.

Best,
A

[Dennis Leahy]

You're either insane or brilliant. :~) Either way, I like you.

Dennis

p.s. oh wait, you might also be insane AND brilliant. That's OK with me. I only have a negative reaction to negative people (people with negative intent or negative actions.)

[7redorbs]

It's both Dennis. If I'm right, then anyone would be insane living with what I 'claim to be "so" ' .

It's well worth noting Tesla had several breakdowns. I wonder why.

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Radio Corporation America 1921, Bolinas:

Nikola Tesla, Steinmetz, Einstein standing in front of the Marconi Wireless Plant.


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Best,
A

[Amaterasu]

Adam, lovely. That is a great post, and as always, I am impressed and agree with Your work - for what that's worth! LOL!

To illustrate why the addition of overunity ("free energy") spells the end of any and all money and money-related problems, I invite You to see My thread here: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?39892-The-End-of-Entropy 7RedOrbs' work and Mine dovetail, and if We can make this happen, get this info out, We will be finally and truly free.

No more wage/debt slavery. No more hidden cures. No more products made to fail so as to ensure future sales. No more motive to defraud, steal, murder for money... And on and on it goes.

[sandy]

So much of this is way over my head, but my intuition says YES!! so I'm sticking with you as I so want Free Energy to be our earthly reality. :)

[7redorbs]

Question for you all.

Would you bother continuing putting this information out if nobody was really interested when this tends to happen when I publish my work?

Oh, not to worry It's just the NRO, and A myriad of government and military organisations spying on my website. Nothing to worry about! Carry on here! Not spooky to you? tough, it is to me, because I have a large website, and guess what, the only articles they visit are the ones I have written. Hmm I wonder why.

Could it be because they are decent information?

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Clearly at least some of us wouldn't know what free energy and the truth was if it jumped up and kicked us in the face.

For all of you who have not expressed an interest in this work or expressed a myriad of unrelated work of their own, do you get friendly visits from Fermilab, NASA, Los Alamos labs, Vandenberg, the pentagon and the secretary of the department of defence, because I actually do get these visits, all the time. They are only interested in the important work that I am transmitting about this subject. I am so sick and tired of humanity, why bother doing this for you? Why bother making my work public, if the only bloody people that show an interest are the luciferian types from the military and defence arenas? They will come for me, and then you will be sad that you didn't listen. It's your choice admittedly.

Here is your kicking. Why would you bother transmitting information at great risk if you could see it wasn't helping you or anyone else, don't like it? Neither do I. I consider this my last chance. I have not asked for anything but your attention, but people can't even do that nowadays.

Too many distractions like smart phones. Good luck with them, your not so smart for using them. I'm terrified of 3G now I know what it is. You people you need to get smart fast, or you are going to wonder why your brains have been damaged by the 3gigahertz radiation resistance of a low amplitude mobile phone, not low enough is the answer! Nauseus, headaches, you think you get headaches because your head hurts?

Get real people. It's wireless. Transverse wireless is deadly by the way. If you go near to a radio transmitter you are likely to get fried. That is not a a low amplitude. Now you know what the mobile phone is, it is a tiny frier that knocks our your DNA, in the same way as the large frier. Sound funny to you? I'm not laughing.

Abandon hope all ye who enter here - Wardenclyffe.

Best,
A

[Amaterasu]

What can I say? It is scary that all these agencies are visiting. And I also know it is frustrating to spread information - it takes patience and persistence. And the question becomes whether One has the time with all this interest from agencies that are known to hold Humanity in so little regard. I cannot tell You to keep plugging onward - that is Yours to choose or not. If it were Me, I would choose to do so, because I believe in Humanity, understand the heavy programming They are under, have compassion for Them in that state of delusion, and love My fellow Human enough to be a sacrifice if that is required (while hoping it is not).

I do not fault Them for Their condition - it was laid down for Them from birth by Ones who think They own the Humans on this planet, like so much cattle or sheep. I aim to change that, however, and will work towards that until I succeed or am dead - and I'm not sure death will stop Me.

So You may choose as You wish, but try to understand Their condition - and certain fate if We do not at least keep trying on Their behalf.

[Kindred]

Question for you all.

Would you bother continuing putting this information out if nobody was really interested when this tends to happen when I publish my work?
{snip...}
I have not asked for anything but your attention, but people can't even do that nowadays.

Too many distractions like smart phones.

Abandon hope all ye who enter here - Wardenclyffe.

Best,
A

7redorbs (Adam)... I just came back on this thread to 'see what's happening'. I'm Extremely Impressed so far. Do Not think for 1 Second that ANY of your efforts are for naught! I will say that I have Yet to digest everything that has been written so far. I'm going to pour over it shortly. I had been looking into actually 'doing' the necessary experimentation... checking out Ed Leedskalnin's concepts, and Tesla's patents.

I can tell you... that 'patent' stuff is Way overrated. I Know, first hand.;) I Truly Applaud your forward, 'anti-establishment' thinking... for the 'establishment' is delusional and disconnected in every way possible from reality.

Yes... cell phone technology is deadly, and I had given mine up a while ago, once I became aware of much of what is discussed here. A short aside - a friend of a friend passed away recently from brain cancer... not that old, but was fond of this 'new technology'... her death caught everyone 'by surprise'.

This is just a 'heads up' to let you know that I hadn't forgotten your post, but was waiting until you got around to answering... I am So Very Glad you've done so.

Keep Up The Great Work... it is for Humanities sake that you do this... Please - never forget that.

In Unity, Peace and Love

[Kindred]

You're either insane or brilliant. :~) Either way, I like you.

Dennis

p.s. oh wait, you might also be insane AND brilliant. That's OK with me. I only have a negative reaction to negative people (people with negative intent or negative actions.)

Insanely Brilliant... as were Ed Leedskalnin and Nikola Tesla.

In Unity, Peace and Love

[Amaterasu]

I agree. Adam IS insanely brilliant. May His work spread widely!

[Dennis Leahy]

I am so sick and tired of humanity, why bother doing this for you? Why bother making my work public, if the only bloody people that show an interest are the luciferian types from the military and defence arenas? They will come for me, and then you will be sad that you didn't listen. It's your choice admittedly.

Here is your kicking. Why would you bother transmitting information at great risk if you could see it wasn't helping you or anyone else, don't like it? Neither do I. I consider this my last chance. I have not asked for anything but your attention, but people can't even do that nowadays.


Best,
A
Adam,

I'd be quite concerned for my safety and sanity if I had all those alphabet agency assh0les visiting/"observing" me. Thus my advice to "blurt it out." (Or, conversely, fade away, if you feel you must for your safety.)

You either have something or you don't. And by "something", I mean something tangible, non-nebulous, that an advanced tinkerer (at least) could make into a working unit. I do appreciate the big overview background stuff - it is fascinating. If you put out all the info you have, there is no reason to suppress you or harass you or target you anymore, right? Only by putting out tantalizing pieces and holding some back do you remain in their observation as potentially dangerout to the status quo.

Then, what you have to say to folks here at Avalon can take on a new dimension, (whatever you want it to be.) If "they" believe you are going to supply information for someone to understand enough to build a unit, I hope you don't think you will be able to eek it out in bits and pieces in weekly installments. Once they believe you have "it" (the knowledge), I believe you'll have exactly one shot at disseminating it. Maybe it isn't "secret" but the distillation of knowledge, and knowing for sure where the blind alleys are is pretty valuable.

I'm neither lucifarian nor government. I'm a regular human, one of the 7 billion that would be pleased by free energy development, not one of the handful (and their minions) of nefarious, greed-based monsters. I'm also not a tinkerer, so it won't be me that moves forward with the info.

Be well,

Dennis

[7redorbs]

Here is one of my latest experiments for those that are still following..

L3YRbOsjpHQ

My contemporary also has a working Tesla Magnifying Transmitter operating at 137%. There is absolutely nothing fictional about the Tesla Marconi System. Nor is their anything unbelievable, impractical or unobtainable in refining the impedance characteristics of two propagating electrical velocities of electrical wave, that exist inside all transformers.

All we need do is create the right coil surface area ratio arrangements, and then we will have the R.C.A MLFTA that the military went to effort to remove from historic , scientific and engineering existence.

Heaviside ruined the Maxwell Theory. It's taken this long for us to prove to the millions of scientists that everything Tesla said was not 100 years of his time, it was held back 100 years by the people that let R.C.A win.

Don't let these people win. 137%. The output, per second, is 137% of the input. 2 Distinct waves have been detected, and I have created a formative mathematics that is now readily available to describe the magnification effects as an equation fuction co-efficient of surface area ratio in space. E.g. the surface area minus pi renders 1.54C (or 291,000 miles per second longitudinal wave divided by the transverse light speed wave of 186,000 miles/per second). We have test data now. It show's that the electrons aren't just moving at 186,000mi/sec, something else is driving at well over 105 thousand miles a second faster!

Don't miss out Eric Dollard, and others, they can really do this, and so can we.


Best,
A

[Simonm]

Truly fascinating. Thankyou.

[Kindred]

Here is one of my latest experiments for those that are still following..

L3YRbOsjpHQ

My contemporary also has a working Tesla Magnifying Transmitter operating at 137%. There is absolutely nothing fictional about the Tesla Marconi System. Nor is their anything unbelievable, impractical or unobtainable in refining the impedance characteristics of two propagating electrical velocities of electrical wave, that exist inside all transformers.

All we need do is create the right coil surface area ratio arrangements, and then we will have the R.C.A MLFTA that the military went to effort to remove from historic , scientific and engineering existence.

Heaviside ruined the Maxwell Theory. It's taken this long for us to prove to the millions of scientists that everything Tesla said was not 100 years of his time, it was held back 100 years by the people that let R.C.A win.

Don't let these people win. 137%. The output, per second, is 137% of the input. 2 Distinct waves have been detected, and I have created a formative mathematics that is now readily available to describe the magnification effects as an equation fuction co-efficient of surface area ratio in space. E.g. the surface area minus pi renders 1.54C (or 291,000 miles per second longitudinal wave divided by the transverse light speed wave of 186,000 miles/per second). We have test data now. It show's that the electrons aren't just moving at 186,000mi/sec, something else is driving at well over 105 thousand miles a second faster!

Don't miss out Eric Dollard, and others, they can really do this, and so can we.


Best,
A

7redorbs... this is EXACTLY what I thought - from Many years ago. It's just that my (adoptive) father (MIT) stated emphatically - "there's no such thing as a perpetual motion!"... which 'shut me down', quite effectively. I 'knew better'... but didn't have the information to substantiate my ideas.

Now I Know Better!

THANKS for the update! Methinks I have some work to do!

In Unity, Peace and Love

[7redorbs]

Hi, Just a quick one , because this is important Kindred.

Perpetual motion doesn't exist, except for around the fictional orbits of the electron? (Each electron is being caused by two poles chasing eachother in a double HELIX arrangement).

Perpetual motion doesn't exist, except for the very planet that they stand on acts marvellously like a perpetually rotating, stable orbiting electron. I've had these discussions with physicists, they shot me down for a long time, but now they have some serious problems debating me. (in fact, it is impossible to debate, because what I plainly am about to state is entirely scientifically supported).

These atoms, and chemicals, metal conductors, and oceans, they are in constant motion. This is a perpetual motion. Particularly though all chemicals, all metals, all periodic table elements, they are all PERPETUALLY MOVING. Not my words, Richard Feynman's.

The only assumption that can truly be supported by science is that the perpetual magnetic orbit of those so-called electrons cannot be extended to a much larger orbit. OR rather a device that is pretending to be the structure of an atom, and creating moving conducting magnetic fields that mimic the orbit path held by the atom.

Then you will have a perpetual motion from the atom's derived in the chemical battery, that is several million times bigger in size, I your physical device, and thus also in force. Now you have an idea how it may be possible to derive perpetual power from these perpetual orbits, and perhaps how Edward Leedskalnin was able to achieve very high powered laser cutter from this arrangement, that could also be used for lifting purposes. If you have seen lightning, you will be aware of the awesome power that high voltage power supply possesses. If you think that each tiny little electron orbit in each periodic element has a small amount of energy you would be right. If those electrons want to spin around in orbit, or rather if those electrons were magnetic currents, then all we would have to do is perfectly recreate the structure of an atom in a large rotating metal conducting device, and then we could have a larger version of the weak "magnetic force" that holds all those particles together. Indeed, the same force that holds the atom together, and keeps it in perpetual movement. Richard Feynmans words, celebrated quantum physicist and author of Q.E.D.

This certainly is not to be toyed with. This certainly is not a joke. Patient can run thin when amazing knowledge is on the new-age collar of doubt.

There is nothing to be put at doubt with perpetual motion. The problem is that people are not willing to prove the things they believe. Had people insisted upon this fact, they would not be fooled where the sun and polaris really are, or convinced that perpetual motion did not exist. A better term is that perpetual motion has not been seen to exist in a large device beyond that of the functional atomic device (electron orbits). I had to unfool myself just like Leedskalnin and Tesla. I invite those willing to do the same.

I give this knowledge freely.

It is scary stuff, it should be , and I strongly believe telling you put's my life in jeopardy. Especially if humanity is still not ready yet. This is suppressed technology. Please don't ignore this information, it is just too important. The whole energy scarcity thing is a load of total BS. All energy is based on those perpetually orbiting electrons being accelerated off a periodic element.

ALL OF IT. Coal power, nuclear power, wind power, all of it.

Think about that. Also find me a generator that doesn't have to use a magnetic north and south pole to generate those fictional electrons in a wire. You won't find one.

Cheers ;)

Best,
A

[Kindred]

These atoms, and chemicals, metal conductors, and oceans, they are in constant motion. This is a perpetual motion. Particularly though all chemicals, all metals, all periodic table elements, they are all PERPETUALLY MOVING. Not my words, Richard Feynman's.

Best,
A

EXACTLY! Just last year, I posed a similar question to the 'lead engineer' for my group - "If perpetual motion doesn't exist, then why do electrons continue to orbit their nucleus Perpetually?" (and I don't have a 'degree')... he stood there, sort of dumbfounded, not exactly certain as to what to say... then says, "I don't know"...

THIS sums up the 'educational vacuum' and non-critical thinking that our current 'system' promotes. And we Wonder why we, as a species, are where we are today...

I realize 'They' have planned it this way, but you'd think that there would be more questions. But people tend to 'conform' or 'go with the flow', rather than look 'silly', or not with the 'in' crowd. This is just human nature, and 'They' have used this to their advantage.

Perhaps you've already addressed this question elsewhere, but have you seen/heard of the works that the Keshe Foundation have made?
Here's the link to the 5 videos in question...
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?44711-Keshe-Foundation-gives-free-energy-and-other-technology-to-ALL-countries.&p=512510#post512510

I have to say that the 'fundamental's' he lays out seem to be an amazing affirmation of some critical aspects of what Tesla was saying... something along the lines of "if you can understand the significance of the numbers 3, 6 and 9, you'll begin to Understand"

By the same token, I feel it is Very important to let people know that technology is Not, and Cannot be the ‘savior’ of humankind. Only Spirituality within the confines of Universal Law has the means and the ability to affect the significant change that will be required for the human race to rise above its current problems. Technology can 'help', but, Ultimately, we will only use said technology Wisely, if we develop Spiritually.

In Unity, Peace and Love

[mosquito]

Thank you !!

You've confirmed one of the things I've been mulling over in my mind for the past few days - namely that our universe is in constant motion, evolving, creating, and it somehow manages to do all this without paying a bloody electricity bill !!!! Ergo - perpetual motion and "free" energy are right there waiting for us.

[7redorbs]

These atoms, and chemicals, metal conductors, and oceans, they are in constant motion. This is a perpetual motion. Particularly though all chemicals, all metals, all periodic table elements, they are all PERPETUALLY MOVING. Not my words, Richard Feynman's.

Best,
A

EXACTLY! Just last year, I posed a similar question to the 'lead engineer' for my group - "If perpetual motion doesn't exist, then why do electrons continue to orbit their nucleus Perpetually?" (and I don't have a 'degree')... he stood there, sort of dumbfounded, not exactly certain as to what to say... then says, "I don't know"...

THIS sums up the 'educational vacuum' and non-critical thinking that our current 'system' promotes. And we Wonder why we, as a species, are where we are today...

I realize 'They' have planned it this way, but you'd think that there would be more questions. But people tend to 'conform' or 'go with the flow', rather than look 'silly', or not with the 'in' crowd. This is just human nature, and 'They' have used this to their advantage.

Perhaps you've already addressed this question elsewhere, but have you seen/heard of the works that the Keshe Foundation have made?
Here's the link to the 5 videos in question...
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?44711-Keshe-Foundation-gives-free-energy-and-other-technology-to-ALL-countries.&p=512510#post512510

I have to say that the 'fundamental's' he lays out seem to be an amazing affirmation of some critical aspects of what Tesla was saying... something along the lines of "if you can understand the significance of the numbers 3, 6 and 9, you'll begin to Understand"

By the same token, I feel it is Very important to let people know that technology is Not, and Cannot be the ‘savior’ of humankind. Only Spirituality within the confines of Universal Law has the means and the ability to affect the significant change that will be required for the human race to rise above its current problems. Technology can 'help', but, Ultimately, we will only use said technology Wisely, if we develop Spiritually.

In Unity, Peace and Love

Bang on , the truth is it can be taken further, the electron itself doesn't exist. The electron is visible because of a reaction with the observer. The North and south pole currents exist in-between all atoms. When we see an electron it's caused by the "photons" of observation from the viewing device or observers eye. Scientists have invented all sorts of names for this effect, including, action at a distance, phase variance, delta t, red shift, blue shift, it's some hilarious stuff - except for realising that the electron is a REACTION, not the EXISTENT thing it claims to be. In fact light itself requires more than the electron, but the fundamental basis of electricity - the north and south pole.

So, bang on correct, and I mean you really really get it. For what it is worth I was discouraged too, strongly. To the point that I did not want to have any contact with people any more. My only other point is that the rabbit hole goes down deeper than this. After all we just proven inductively that all energy is magnetic at it's base. North and south poles, when we look the wave reacts with the poles producing an electron. Quantum physicists invent names. We don't just have perpetual atomic movement. We have a working proof that electrons don't exist until they are observed. Anyone who ever done some Q physics will realise that everything about it is everything I am talking about - except explained in a much more insane way. Considering what I've said these last few posts, that's saying something.

Shame that most people on this planet are too mindless and self-important to interpret the most fundamental assumptions in their observations, scientists are supposed to do this, yet we see the same obsession with mathematics as a reflection of beauty, and experimentation as a fundamental dehumanising replacement for common-sense and educated observation. Are new agers any better? Probably not.

You made a difference, you looked, you did the work. You asked the hard questions - and you aw their faces of total bemusement. If this isn't proof that scientists are egotistical idiots that make it up as they go along via "inventive thinking" what the hell is? "I don't know" is a common remark by scientists; the remark that disgusts me the most is "It should be doing that".

I think it is revealing to say the very least. They think they are God! This is not a joke.

When these self-appointed hypocritical self-stroking scientists are caught totally off-guard, it becomes clear that they are simply just another human being, and the whimsical inventory of reasons why other human beings do not have the right to think without their dictionary of words becomes clearly apparent. Without those words, not only would they not be able to understand eachother, but individuals would be able to make progress without implied assumptions behind the meanings of symbols.

The pyramid builders, and the Egyptians clearly got this. You have clearly got this. Nikola Tesla clearly got this. Hence his claims.

You have my sincere thanks and respect. You also kept it simple, and provided proof for your theories. Very very important. Look how out of control the electron has got with proof! Are new-agers any different? Probably not.

Observation and conclusions are as important as the method and the aim.

I have made my point now. Thank you so much, this will be my last transmission. People are not educated if they are prepared to believe in something they cannot prove. Less they be subjected to the fools of science whom they call the work the best work. Yet they were neither educated, nor the best, if their work is no longer best in 25 years.

It can never be as good as the universe can do it if you do not think large enough. Scientists, new-agers, skeptics, their world is far too small for sane thinking. And the insane are far too busy for sanity.

It is somewhat a message of irony and peril that this could have all been avoided by humanity by simply observing the ground we stand on and the very atoms we have discovered - and most importantly of all understanding what education really is.

Certainly not what I was given should be called.

If my so-called education was called a syllabus we would be getting closer to the truth. A syllabus is not education, it is other peoples education. The proof of my perpetual energy device is that my education was verified by my own invention and inductive reasoning. I did not try and copy someone else's education. I got my own. So in short, education is not something any body can give you. Unless the entire world has got it correct in the school books. Since they haven't got it all, or even it all right, any book now will no longer be good in 25 years. Scientists, religious zealots and new agers are probably rolling around in their grave at 666rpm right about now.. Einstein is dialling 911. Oh well. Someone's gotta do it.

To be good now, it will have to be good in 25 years. I have enjoyed this thread, it has taught me a lot about myself and humanity to say the very least. This will be my last transmission.

My last thoughts: The rising sun, the setting moon, the phase of the moon, the million billion trillion watts of energy conducted wirelessly into the ocean. No contradiction, no lies, no profit, no agenda. Just a proof that is already readily observable, confirmable, and fully conformist with current scientific thinking. Just an obvious fact that rises way above the heads of the scientists. If it wasn't for their incapability and so-called education basic observation would not have escaped them. Else they would not be making sea-power and wind-power, they'd be after the thing that caused it.

I was. I was like that once. I even worked for the government, British Forces actually.


Best Wishes,
A

[Amaterasu]

I do hope this is not Your last "transmission." I hope You will continue to bring Your successes here and many other places on the web. Because the more You keep threads active, the more You will be seen. Once a thread becomes idle, no One sees it, as a rule. And Your information REALLY need to be seen and seen by many.

This is why I keep sending the information out of what free energy means in terms of economics. I know enough to know that free energy extraction has existed on this planet for at least 100 years (in the present history) with electrogravitics coming in about 50 years ago. So it only seems reasonable to calculate the economic impact - which is MY specialty. And so, I keep it up. Tirelessly, because the more people who understand that free energy combined with robots to do all necessary work no One wants to do means We will not have need of money, and will have an abundance of everything for EVERYONE...the more the toadies, the Ones who do the bidding and hold the science for TPTB, will be motivated to abandon Their toadiehood and release the information We need to go forth into a much better world than what We see now.

So... Keep things rolling.

[sandy]

Thank you 7redorbs>>>>>>>>your contributions are appreciated and valued as people really do need to understand the importance of Free energy and what it means to our Earth and all her creatures.

I agree totally with Amaterasu and too hope you will stay in touch and keep this thread :)

[Dennis Leahy]

"Last transmission"?

Have you taken a vow of silence?

Some really thought-provoking rough ideas expressed, thanks. Your final tidbit was especially intriguing - using the moon's gravity as a source of power. Seems it would require a massive mass, in motion, to gather and transmute the gravitational force into heat or electricity. In other words, a glass of water is experiencing the same gravitational force as the oceans, but is it possible to generate 10KW of electrical power, per day, from harnessing a moderately small amount of water (say a barrel) for a home-sized generator? Of course, gravity acts on any mass, so it would not need to be liquid... maybe a large flywheel and gears to spin a generator? Or a flywheel fitted with magnets within a cylinder of magnets (a generator that has a flywheel as a rotor)? Alas, I'm not a tinkerer, and only have minor seat-of-the-pants engineering background, so it won't be me taking the ideas forward.

And then, there's the intriguing notion of moving that electrical current via longitudinal waves... but, from a practical, physical standpoint, I have absolutely no clue what to do with that concept.

I appreciate the notion/concept/reality that electrons do not exist as discrete particles, but are only observed to be so in a minute snapshot in time, as the magnetic current (or magnetic plasma?) flows. Now you have me wondering about the true nature of protons and neutrons as well.

You should stick around, Adam. You might not be comfortable providing a diagram of how to make an electric oven using longitudinal waveform electric current coming from a gravitational collector/generator, but maybe you have a great recipe for peach cobbler that you'll share. Or, maybe you'll find some other conversation, not related to "free" energy, interesting.

Cheers,

Dennis

[Kindred]

"Last transmission"?

Have you taken a vow of silence?

Some really thought-provoking rough ideas expressed, thanks. Your final tidbit was especially intriguing - using the moon's gravity as a source of power. Seems it would require a massive mass, in motion, to gather and transmute the gravitational force into heat or electricity. In other words, a glass of water is experiencing the same gravitational force as the oceans, but is it possible to generate 10KW of electrical power, per day, from harnessing a moderately small amount of water (say a barrel) for a home-sized generator? Of course, gravity acts on any mass, so it would not need to be liquid... maybe a large flywheel and gears to spin a generator? Or a flywheel fitted with magnets within a cylinder of magnets (a generator that has a flywheel as a rotor)? Alas, I'm not a tinkerer, and only have minor seat-of-the-pants engineering background, so it won't be me taking the ideas forward.

And then, there's the intriguing notion of moving that electrical current via longitudinal waves... but, from a practical, physical standpoint, I have absolutely no clue what to do with that concept.

I appreciate the notion/concept/reality that electrons do not exist as discrete particles, but are only observed to be so in a minute snapshot in time, as the magnetic current (or magnetic plasma?) flows. Now you have me wondering about the true nature of protons and neutrons as well.

You should stick around, Adam. You might not be comfortable providing a diagram of how to make an electric oven using longitudinal waveform electric current coming from a gravitational collector/generator, but maybe you have a great recipe for peach cobbler that you'll share. Or, maybe you'll find some other conversation, not related to "free" energy, interesting.

Cheers,

Dennis

Dennis... it isn't 'gravity' that is producing this energy... it's the exchange of magnetic moments...

All There Is, is Magnetism.

In Unity, Peace and Love

[Dennis Leahy]

...Some really thought-provoking rough ideas expressed, thanks. Your final tidbit was especially intriguing - using the moon's gravity as a source of power. ...

... Alas, I'm not a tinkerer, and only have minor seat-of-the-pants engineering background, so it won't be me taking the ideas forward.

Dennis... it isn't 'gravity' that is producing this energy... it's the exchange of magnetic moments...

All There Is, is Magnetism.

In Unity, Peace and Love
You're saying the moon's dance with Earth is not gravitational, but magnetic?

If so, I'm even further in the back of the classroom.

Dennis

[Kindred]

You're saying the moon's dance with Earth is not gravitational, but magnetic?

If so, I'm even further in the back of the classroom.

Dennis

Gravity is a result of spinning magnetic fields and electric moments

[Simonm]

Why are people stopping posting? People that obviously have a knowledge that MUST be passed on to the masses. Whats needed now are "specs" that show that this stuff worked, if it actually does. Apologies, but I'm a totally ignorant in these matters, but learning all the time and those that know, imo, have an obligation to pass this sh1t on so that it can be propagated as far as possible. Whats needed now is actual papers that can be reproduced by those with knowledge to do so. Not a quick glimpse and then nothing. C'mon people start producing concrete evidence that this stuff really works.

Thanks

[7redorbs]

Misconception of Reality, an abstract on the broken science

For a long time now the separation of the sciences into chemistry and biology, physics and quantum physics, sub quantum kinetics, thermal dynamics, and mathematics have prevented the physicists from knowing how the chemical periodic elements work, and the chemists from understanding that there is a work of physics occurring in their chemical reactions (reacting periodic elements and their orbits spinning around and into eachother). OR rather those chemistry endothermic and exothermic reactions between periodic elements creating substrates, is an chemical energetic and physics kinetic, so-both chemical , and physical at the atomic level. The creation of all new chemicals, the philosophers stones by the alchemist will all follow this periodic chemical reaction between these so-called electrons orbiting and exchanging their orbits with other periodic chemicals, releasing energy in the form of heat, or cold - exothermic or endothermic.

The chemists do not understand physics, and the physicians do not understand chemistry, the biologists do not know physics and the chemists care not for biology. Yet - the human body is the one place that the physical kinetic processes are produced, the chemical and biological processes are present. Here lies proof in the fundamental truths of observation in the universe. Do not be mistaken. You are not educated if you are willing to believe things you are unable to prove. Here I will prove it to you.

A battery produces electricity, these so-called electrons we find present in the wire - which can drive machinery, create elements like silver and gold and platinum, and manufacture new kinds of elements in complicated accelerator technology, which involves throwing atoms together at very high speed. Or rather forcing the chemical reaction , and those orbiting so-called electrons into eachother. In the industry this is refered to as the "Island of stability". The battery that produced electricity, did so because of basic chemistry. The Egyptians were great chemists, and the pyramid builders that came before them too were great mathematicians and physicists, of the atomic and chemical kind. A battery consists of 3 things. 2 Metals, for an anode and a cathode terminal, and an acid such as sulfuric acid, nitric acid, citric acid, or phosphoric acid are common. The orbits of those non-existing electrons are pealed of one of the metals and transporting to the other metal. This is how a battery works during discharging.

During the battery charging, the reverse occurs, and the metal and it's orbits that were transported by the acid are returned to the terminal they originally came from. So we can see that a battery is working chemically, and has nothing to do with 3rd Degree A grade physics. There is no scientist in sight, except there is a Jewish Priest, King Solomon and the Knights of the Templar laying in wake. Lets continue. I have told you how a battery works chemically, now I am going to tell you what powers the electrons that are forced by the chemical reaction in the design of a battery which electricity came.

The atomic force is the force that causes the perpetual movement and energy of all electrons in periodic elements. The battery is a crude device, that breaks the orbits of one metal in the battery and transports them to the other terminal, the atom itself is a perpetually moving and rotating mass, they are very small things and they are not of much use unless in great number. The batteries electrons are released from the atoms of the metals in the battery and recirculated in an orbit around the metals free-electron valency. This means that the electrons that were perpetually moving around their periodic mass are no longer rotating perpetually around an atom, but have been funneled into the electron orbit valancy of a conductive metal such as a wire. In more simplistic terms, the metals electrons in the battery, which were once in perpetual movement, when exposed to the acid in the battery are no longer perpetual, and form only a single flow channel from one anode to the cathode and in reverse depending on whether it is charging or discharging.

As you can see this is proof that the electrons which had a perpetual current, and perpetual movement, are transformed by the battery into something much less useful. The scientists they consider it more useful this way today, because they do not know how to create a large device, that has these electrons from a battery, and to have them perpetually orbiting in great number around the device as an atom would. They do not know. That is why they made the battery, because the atomic force and it's electrons have vast and unlimited amounts of energy, which is considered by many as yet untapped. The history of radio is stranger than fiction. The battery is an old device, it is not efficient like the atoms, and when the orbits of the metal leave it, then they do not run in the wire perpetually, like they did at the atom.

As I have told you how a battery works, let me tell you more about how a conductor works. A conductor is something that can transport these so-called electrons. I have proven the JJ Thompsons electrons to be non-existing delusive works of fiction, however, for the purposes of understanding why the battery is not efficient it is important. The reason the battery cannot circulate the electrons perpetually through it's wire's like the atoms of the metal and glass, is because the battery is not an atomic arrangement, and the battery is not an atom. If the battery or power source, or the device that is channeling the atomic orbits is not designed like an atom then you will not find the same perpetually orbiting electron currents around each atom that exists in the universe.

All electrons , according to our best scientists are "perpetually moving". There is only very minute amounts of energy from one electron. Even though I have proven the electron to not exist. In the battery, the electron orbits are transformed from the anode and cathode periodic perpetual orbits to a conductive metal that exists outside of the battery that is not shaped like an atom. The electricity as we call it, the electrons, they still orbit in a corkscrew like spinning fashion at approximately 15 to 18.5 degrees. So the orbits are still there, but they are orbiting around the outside of the wire, and they are reluctant to leave the wire. Like they were reluctant to leave the atom.

The difference between the electrons the battery puts out and the infinite perpetual motion in each electron of the annode and cathode metal of a battery, is that the electricity atomic orbits can jump out of the wire and be lost, but in the atom the perpetual movement of their electrons is unceasing, and so is the energy which provides it, it is perfectly balanced the atom, and perfectly stable, yet it produces enough energy and a current to keep it moving. Each atom has this perpetually moving electrons. Some metals have more of the electrons than others. As I have said electrons do not exist, only magnets exist, I have proven it. Electrons are not the finest, or smallest particle, the atomic orbits are, and they appear to be magnetic. I have discovered that the electron consists of a north and south pole magnet. That is why you will need one bar magnet, and a conductive wire coil, to get your non existent electrons, because the base that creates them is from the small magnetic poles, or lines of force, present in all electricity lines. IT is these that drive the electrons.

Here be it known that the electron is an atomic orbit that is unstable, that jumps out of the wire, and the atoms, in the wire the electron, it is no longer perpetually orbiting it's energy, or it's magnetic field. It has been disrupted. It has been looked at and interfered with. It has been dissolved into the batteries acid, and released in a wire, but it does not perpetually orbit like it did inside the atom. This is not a failure of the battery alone, but a failure of how the metal geometry allowed the spinning atomic orbits to get out. Tesla's best work with the Tesla Magnifying Transmitter was a design that specifically allowed for a greater output per second than input per second. This was achieved by a 3 coil arrangement, that allowed for a recirculation current per second of 40%, or a total leakage of 60% per cycle. Thereby causing the capacitor to gain 40% of the previous cycles voltage per cycle. This is why it was known as the Tesla Magnifying Transmitter. A capacitor would essentially fill at 100% the first time, saving 40% to a recirculating current and a differential between the secondary coil and a mutual inductance that inducts reverse resistance in the primary allows for the capacitor to fill with the 40% of the first cycle, thereby causing the capacitor and spark gap to fire at a greater rate, per cycle, per 40% extra of the previous. This causes what is referred to by Eric Dollard and Charles Steinmetz who worked at General Electricity, and RCA over 20 years as a cumulative oscillation. Whereby the voltage of each cycle is ~140% of the previous strength of the cycle. Note, the power supply provides the same amount of energy per second, what is going on is that energy is STORED within the capacitance and self inductance of the 3 COILS, and there is a TIME DIFFERENTIAL between the propagation reflections, or rather, what is referred to as a recirculating current. Or, a total leakage of only 60%. This means that 40% energy is gained per cycle. This is referred to as an Asymptotic voltage increase. A Similar effect can be observed in AC Transmission Lines which will be discussed later.

The permanent magnet works differently to the electrons produced by the battery. I have a small device that can turn the atomic orbits of a battery into permanent orbits. It is the good device that Edward Leedskalnin designed and discussed in his book Magnetic Current. He called it to the perpetual motion holder. I have explained to you why , because it turns those electrical power from the battery that usually would not orbit perpetually, into a magnetic electromagnet, which does orbit perpetually.

My Leedskalnin Perpetual Motion Holder certainly does turn those non-existing electrons, that I prefer to call atomic-orbits into a perpetually orbiting current. My Electromagnet is a permanent magnet, all of the non-existing electrons that went into it from my battery, set them going this way. As you can see I have found a way to turn the batteries orbits that would have usually stopped orbiting to continue orbiting. In this way you can see that my perpetual motion holder is more like the atomic orbit and the perpetually moving electrons that you would find inside the battery.

This means that the perpetual motion holder is capable of turning the wasted electrons into an orbit that is permanent, like the atom. This is the first and most important requirement in the refinement of energy. The understanding that all of the energy, wherever it may come from, it is coming from the atoms, not the object that the atoms consist of, but the very atoms themselves, and how those atoms are connected together determines the properties.

So, the arrangement of my perpetually orbiting magnets in my perpetual motion holder, kept the chemical orbits of the perpetual atoms chemically balanced, when this happens, the north and south pole formed at each end of the electromagnet prongs. I think that is proof enough that a stable atomic orbit will create two poles with the electromagnet. This is proof absolute that the electron must consist of the north and south pole. Not only is the electron created in all transmission lines with the north and south pole magnetic induction, but when those non existing electron orbits from the battery are put into my U metal and wrapped coils, it creates an electromagnet with a north and south pole. This shows that the north and south pole is involved in the charging and the discharging of electrons, and thus the electrons can only be considered a secondary-force.

The primary force of the battery is the atomic orbits, which are perpetual. The battery crudely seperates them, and then they are not perpetual anymore. The edward leedskalnin perpetual motion holder, the device that I have working here, makes sure that the orbits from the fictional electrons exist as a north and south pole only, and that they recirculate indefinitely and perpetually, as in the atom. Here we can see that the magnetic force we call the permanent magnet metal, is in fact a permanent magnetic substance, that is shared in the orbit of the metal, if the metal is right, like in my device, you will find that the energy from your battery will stay in orbit indefinitely.

And so we have a prototype for the first large atomic orbit powered device. A way to keep all energy in orbit. Energy storage, just like can be found in the Tesla Magnifying Transmitter and the Alexanderson Generator, and the Marconi Wireless System's MULTIPLE LOADED FLAT TOP ANTENNAE.

Electricity is provided once, and the magnetic substance that is drawn into the metal is the thing that keeps the metal a permanent magnet. Repeat the metal is not magnetic, the substance that recirculates inside the permanent magnet metal is.


Now about A.C transmission lines. Many of you are wondering how the A.C Transmission line is able to keeps it's volts so well, whereas the D.C Transmission line is not. There is only one different between alternating current and direct current. Direct current is a push that is constant, and so the pressure in the transmission line is constant. The Alternating Current works differently, and taps impulses onto the transmission line, this causes the pressure of the line to rapidly increase, and decrease over time, per second.

What happens will amaze you. It is so simple. The Alternating Current transmission mode, changes the pressure of the wire, up and down. So that between cycles, there will be exactly 0 pressure in the line for a period of very short time. This causes the individual magnets that are in the air to flood into the alternating current transmission line, at the exact centre of it's rest cycle. This means that the way that alternating current transmission line keeps it's volts from the generator, is by using a transmission mode that allows the transmission line itself to pull in magnets. This means A.C turns the thin air into a generator, to pull magnets in to furnish the transmission of magnets in the wire itself. For instance, when the pressure goes up in between cycles and the wire is filled with magnets, then the transmission wire's valency will be different, and so the same impression will conduct electronic substance in the metal better. As you can see the thing inside all of the electricity wires has a pressure, and that is something only a substance usually would have.

As you can see now, probably with some amazement, that the A.C Transmission Mode at the generator end of a line, can cause the line itself to generate millions of free-volts, there exists for the last 100 years or more, readily a framework to employ and research this complex transmission line problem to put it to use for generating vast amounts of free electricity. Furthermore and importantly, where the AC Transmission line caused magnets to pulled in it crosswise to aid it's voltage transmission between cycle stops and starts, my Perpetual Motion Holder Electromagnet transformer is a generator itself that causes the magnets to be pulled in it crosswise from the electrons running in it's coils lengthways.

Given this is the truth about how an A.C Transmission line really gets it's extra power from, to stop it's voltage dropping like D.C constant pressure current - I can say for sure that my electromagnet , my perpetual motion holder is permanently orbiting something, or it's pulling power would diminish over time, after electrons are provided to it once . So there are only 2 possibilities, my device is permanently magnetic because the orbits from the battery continued going around it or because the orbits from the battery caused a pressure change like the A.C Transmission line that is permanently causing more magnets to flow into it from the surrounding air, than can get out through the crosswise prong cores which are inducted once around the lengthwise wires by the batteries orbits.

Note that the battery orbiting lengthways in the coil wires around the metal core , caused an magnetic orbit crosswise in the core, that is perpetual and continuous just like the electrons in the atom that came from the battery.

Thanks for wanting to know more about what electricity is. Remember, electricity is atomic orbits. Coal, being burnt, is creating carbon dioxide, carbon monoxide, and other carbon like products, this is proof that the fuel, and energy released is from the reaction of those elements. Furthermore if we inspect what is left of the mass of the combusted fuel, whatever it may be, we will note that it is hollowed out. This is because the magnetic links that held it together and made it strong for energy based work like leverage and lifting, are no longer present in them. Their orbiting magnets exchanged with other periodic elements. This is what conservation of energy is, the truth that energy cannot be lost is because the only thing that actually happens is that orbits fly off atoms and go elsewhere. None are lost. We are just ignorant that this radiation can be recaptured by devices such as the T.M.T. The coal electricity power, burns up the periodic coal fuel, with oxygen and other surrounding periodically active exothermic elements involved in the reaction, it heats up water, another periodic element to cause it's atomic orbits to be very excited, so that it turns to gas, and rises up into a turbine. The turbine itself is a heavy wheel that has north and south pole magnets, that spin as the excited heat gas from the water runs through it, causing the wheel to spin next to a coil which absorbs the heavy magnetic north and south pole lines of force. That is how we get electrons.

With nuclear power it is the same. We get the atoms that are radioactive, and are throwing off their atomic orbits in a myriad of shapes, and impulses, except that we get a specifically large mass of the matter, so that it has a given number of atomic orbits, that would cause the inner pressure of the chemical periodic stability to become less stable, this causes many magnetic orbits to be thrown off in the same was as the battery. Hillarious as it seems, they do not magnetically derive this force yet. Like the coal plant, they will use those atomic orbits flying off the radioactive mass to heat up the water..aha.. you know where this is going? Yup, the steams atomic orbits are excited, causing them to float, and turn into a gas... like your ufo's maybe?? :) Then the gas, turns a turbine, which has north and south pole magnets in it, that drives a coil that produces those non existant electrons. The smoking gun proof of course is that the electrons can only be derived from the atomic force. So proof is that the electrons are at the very least a secondary force, that is not primary to energy, but rather an electron system of valency induction that can be produced by the chemical and periodic element orbits of metals, and radioactive materials, and coal, thereby being converted by north and south pole turbine generators.

And this is why I'm angry for the world. I give all this sort of stuff freely, and it is free. I don't ask for anything, and people are not really interested.

I have a theory, that people are not ready... and would rather to go on continuing what they have been told is the way it works, regardless that this is madness - we should only believe in things we are able to prove. In the case of atomic orbits being perpetual. This is proven. In the case of all electrons being made from north and south poles, I haven proven that to you as well. I have also shown you that a battery turns the atomic orbits that were perpetual into an energy that is not perpetual any-more. Still puzzled? What do you think was the energy that kept the atom moving on it's own perpetually and forever until the battery dissolved it in the battery to release it's "electrons"? The same thing then perhaps that is recirculating around my perpetual motion holder, perpetually. Atomic orbits.

Here we have a way of generating free perpetual power like an atom does, but we will have to create a very large device, with many, many orbits for that small amount of energy to become readily observable. That is why I created the PMH that Leedskalnin worked with, because it has the ability of storing orbits. Leedskalnin says it "wastes no magnets". Either that is because it can store them in the magnetic field in a perpetual orbit, (a field magnet), or because the device design of the electromagnet is readily creating a pressure in the outside coils that causes more magnets to be pulled in from the air.

If magnets are being pulled into my generator from the air, it sure would explain why some of us are reading 6 amps of current when there is no power supply or battery connected to it.

Because the magnetic orbits are perpetually orbiting, just like in the electron.

"Magnets can't do work", "Perpetual Motion cannot exist". "If this worked we'd all be using it". "If it sounds too good to be true it usually is." "We have already proven that nothing can travel faster than the speed of light time and time over again in scientific theory" "The magnetic field is static it doesn't orbit anywhere!!!" "The magnetic field can't orbit it's relationship to the dielectric field is irrelevant".

If you say so. 6 amps. No battery. All atoms have energy, that causes them to perpetually orbit. My electromagnet perpetually orbits, atomically, chemically, periodically, the magnetic field is not static, it moves at very very very high speed, it is a substance inside the metal, the atomic orbits that came initially from the battery, and then the alternating current of the electromagnet, and north and south pole, and the crosswise flooding of magnets from the surrounding air.

So if we make this bigger, we'll be pulling lots of magnets from the surrounding air. I wonder what would happen if we pulled the magnets we got from the surrounding air, and then put them with wires back into the alternating current generator. Then we'd have the air powering the device that creates the magnetic pressure change in the wire, that causes more magnets to fly in, which causes a greater current to run in the wire to pull the magnets, which causes more magnets to flow in, which are directed to the alternating current that is pulling the magnets, and so on.

Maybe that is what Leedskalnin meant that magnetic force are "equal" on a ground level. I guess that means there are unequal at different heights. Ooh multiple loaded flat top antennae.... 3 coil Tesla Magnifying Transmitter, yada yada yada. There are two modes of resonance that are achievable tandem resonance and concatenated resonance. Thank Eric Dollard for that one. My friend has a 137% magnifier that works. Now people are working on ones that have more than 137% output. The Tandemn two coil mode I am talking about is very basic.

I did notice though that the surface area relationships of 5.7:1 and 2.4:1 had a relationship with the subtraction of PI that gave the speed of a longitudinal wave by ratio 1.55, given that 291,000/186,000 is 1.54 . (relative ratio of light speed to the theoretical longitudinal wave). I think the engineering side ought to be considered by the more technical. I think this is enough for one posting. This will be a test if people are ready I think ;)


Best,
A

[Kindred]

7RO... Having worked in the electric utility industry for 14 years, I find your explanation absolutely Riveting and Eye-opening. And I thought all those 'engineers' were so smart!? Indoctrination is wide-spread and non-denominational.

As I stated in pm... so much to do! Fortunately, I've got a lot of 'raw material' to work with!

All in due time.

In Unity, Peace and Love

[Kindred]

Misconception of Reality, an abstract on the broken science

This will be a test if people are ready I think ;)


Best,
A

As I had stated in an earlier post...

"technology is Not, and Cannot be the ‘savior’ of humankind. Only Spirituality within the confines of Universal Law has the means and the ability to affect the significant change that will be required for the human race to rise above its current problems. Technology can 'help', but, Ultimately, we will only use said technology Wisely, if we develop Spiritually. "

The REAL Test will be a Spiritual one... This is where humankind needs to make the most dramatic changes, and SOON. This cannot be overstated.

Our 'leaders' have Fallen, in Multiple ways, and in All areas of importance. The Populace will need to take up the 'slack' and do what is required, as these 'leaders' have compromised themselves to such a degree that they cannot 'get out', without feeling the wrath of their peers and 'superiors'. Again... the battle over Control and the misuse of 'Value'.

We, The People have to re-establish the Definitions of Real Value... Love, Peace, and Harmony with Nature and Universal Law.

In Unity, Peace and Love

[GrnEggsNHam]

The information in this thread has the potential to change EVERYTHING. I've been dying to bump this because active minds need to read this. My imagination is running wild with all that my father(electrician) and I could accomplish if we were learnt in this way. Once I am able to comprehend(and test) all that 7redorbs has said I will then teach my father. I may have to get him involved earlier during "testing" of these theories but I don't want to spook him. He is after all an old man and a product of the FALSE scientific analogous we've been studying under.

[nomadguy]

a Bill Ryan/Tom Bearden interview

Well that would be an VERY interesting thing to see!

[7redorbs]

The information in this thread has the potential to change EVERYTHING. I've been dying to bump this because active minds need to read this. My imagination is running wild with all that my father(electrician) and I could accomplish if we were learnt in this way. Once I am able to comprehend(and test) all that 7redorbs has said I will then teach my father. I may have to get him involved earlier during "testing" of these theories but I don't want to spook him. He is after all an old man and a product of the FALSE scientific analogous we've been studying under.

I will aid you in any way I can. You know where you can find me. I don't want money. Just want to help. This stuff works. I can increase the strength of an electromagnet on a ruler, by simply balancing the ruler on the edge of a metal table. This is proof that gravity and magnetism are connected.

This is obviously my best experiment. One I shared freely. The truth is that I am absolutely 100% sure that people are not ready for this yet, and at times I wonder if I myself am. Just saying. Will help you. 100%. All I can.


Best,
A

[nomadguy]

I would like to to note that, The cosmic functions observed may also be "scalable" from the overall fractal nature of the universe. And so then some of them have been reproduced and observed on the small scale. For example -the appearance of Alfven waves and DNA are very similar in appearance. Is it possible that some of this could be observed in this same way?

[7redorbs]

"One day man will connect his apparatus to the very wheelwork of the universe [...] and the very forces that motivate the planets in their orbits and cause them to rotate will rotate his own machinery"


How long will it be until people subscribe to a real solution? We could be more than mindless individuals and form the nest of this planet and prosper out into the universe.

Please do not pass up the last few chances left,


Best Wishes,
Adam

[Cristian]

Well isn’t this great?

Free energy explained and documented. The thing we’ve all been waiting for.


Except is not :(.

In my opinion no post of 7redorbes makes any sense or has any logic. An it’s sad because I really am interested in a new understanding of things but all his posts are a mix of ego, wishful thinking and a sick mix of physic laws and concepts and faulty conclusions…it’s just ugly.


Bang on , the truth is it can be taken further, the electron itself doesn't exist. The electron is visible because of a reaction with the observer. The North and south pole currents exist in-between all atoms. When we see an electron it's caused by the "photons" of observation from the viewing device or observers eye. Scientists have invented all sorts of names for this effect, including, action at a distance, phase variance, delta t, red shift, blue shift, it's some hilarious stuff - except for realising that the electron is a REACTION, not the EXISTENT thing it claims to be. In fact light itself requires more than the electron, but the fundamental basis of electricity - the north and south pole..

What’s with this atomic north and south anyway…? The existence of electrons has been proved in experiments over and over again. IT JUST MAKES SENSE.


After all we just proven inductively that all energy is magnetic at it's base. North and south poles, when we look the wave reacts with the poles producing an electron.

You never did prove anything, you only like big words . For the last time , north and south poles cannot exist in an atom made by protons , neutrons and electrons.


If this isn't proof that scientists are egotistical idiots that make it up as they go along via "inventive thinking" what the hell is?.

So scientists are egotistical idiots… I wonder what you are with your make belief physics , and your 60 quid book full of nonsense?

I’m sorry, I know I will be highly unpopular on this forum for posting in this manner . But threads like this hurt us more in the long run. Wishful thinking is not and will never be the answer.

[7redorbs]

Your not unpopular my friend. Just well educated.



'Magnetic electricity' discovered

Researchers have discovered a magnetic equivalent to electricity: single magnetic charges that can behave and interact like electrical ones.
The work is the first to make use of the magnetic monopoles that exist in special crystals known as spin ice.
Writing in Nature journal, a team showed that monopoles gather to form a "magnetic current" like electricity.
The phenomenon, dubbed "magnetricity", could be used in magnetic storage or in computing.
Magnetic monopoles were first predicted to exist over a century ago, as a perfect analogue to electric charges.
Although there are protons and electrons with net positive and negative electric charges, there were no particles in existence which carry magnetic charges. Rather, every magnet has a "north" and "south" pole.

I think this scientific research documented by an internationally acclaimed news outlet casts doubt on your quick and potentially arrogant assumptions. You are after all talking about a decade of work, which has provided models.

For instance if gravity is a cause of motion then our hopes are in vain, but if gravity was an effect caused by cosmic rays from our sun, then, you have a lot to learn about how the north and south pole of atoms and planets are made, and, I hope you do not take offence.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8307804.stm


No person should take offence at asking a hard question, and no man who knows better would take offence of the ignorance of another, but ask himself ways in which he might explain it as a real functioning thing, how it works, what causes it. Currently scientists don't have an explanation for gravity or the perpetual rotation of your electrons around an atom.

If you can tell me why the electron perpetually turns around the atom, then I might as well pack my bags, but, as of yet you've not done that, so perhaps you could read more about what I am saying before accusing me of jumping to a conclusion and ignoring an entire body of science which contradicts my work, or worse even perhaps jumping to conclusions yourself,


All that was great in the past was ridiculed, condemned, combated, suppressed — only to emerge all the more powerfully, all
the more triumphantly from the struggle. - Nikola Tesla

―The scientific man does not aim at an immediate result. He does not expect that his advanced ideas will be readily taken up. His work is like that of the planter — for the future. His duty is to lay the foundation for those who are to come, and point the way. He lives and labors and hopes‖. – Nikola Tesla

Do not mistake what I am trying to do for nonsense, because I do not mistake the nonsense of the electron for a working description - and so I have worked to determine the cause of gravity and the cause of perpetual atomic motion. Which as I have repeated time and time again, no electricity would flow anywhere if it were not for the pre-existing perpetual motion of every single valent metal capable of close to light speed transmission from a heavy electron mass going in one end, quite simply a different electron comes out the other end - as Einstein's theory predicts, what it does not explain however is why and how it runs. What is failed to be understood that if every periodic element didnt have it's atom's so-called electrons perpetually spinning no chemical reactions would exist, batteries would not work, and electrical transmission lines would not carry current.

It has been known for thousands of years that cosmic rays effect conductors, but it has been established in the scientific theory for at least 100 years, since the early days of G.E and the continuing problems that aurora cause to electrical transmission line. In fact the aurora is quite magnetic, north and south pole, and this has a polarisation effect on transmission lines causing the north and south pole to run in it, and blow up entire electrical stations. The reason why this does not happen as frequently as it did circa 1910 is simply because billions of $ have been invested in managing the "problem" of inductive cosmic rays i.e. aurora.

Do your research before criticizing another, it may turn out to be important part of your science. After all, all incomplete scientific theories of invention bare one similarity, some peice of important information is still missing, and it seems in a relatively short time once again you jump to conclusions whilst accusing another of such a thing. There exists a whole body of evidence from Eric Dollard , Nikola Tesla and Walter Russell on how gravity and magnetism might be connected, and how light might be made by INVISIBLE rays from our star traveling at pi / 2 times faster than light. What's not to get? Nothing apparently, because that is what you are taking away from this work, absolutely nothing.


Yes my 60 quid book is full of nonsense, but it cost me about £40 to print just one of them, I also gave up my career - This is not wishful thinking, this is a model , a hypothesis and a description of inventive theory how electricity and gravity function, there are many sources i have used such as the journal of nature and they are quite reliable sources, peer reviewed, etc, my friend, it is you who speaks nonsense.

I am sorry.

Without the solar rays or north and south poles, as I have stipulated, there would be no light created on this earth, there would be no life, and the life would not create petrol and charcoal, or built up combustible energy and matter in the earths rocks.

I respect you and scientists, but when something this simple appears so awkward by you to grasp it is hard to see it as anything else but men trying to drink water from a boat that they sit in, whilst repeating again and again and again the electron must exist.

The problem with scientists, and people like you is, you have never seen an electron. That is why i set out to do these experiments and write this book in the first place. I have curved light. Do you understand the significance of this accomplishment? Nonsense. Really? Have you ever read nobel prize winner feynmans work , like his book Q.E.D and studied physics as I have? I am not uneducated, like yourself, i once believed in the electron , and that is what it was, a belief. Now I have curved light and built non ohmic non Kirchhoffian transformers, it's really hard to take seriously people that can emit and radiate as much complete ignorance and mallice such as you.

Find somewhere else to troll, this is important work.. not that your reaction is much different than the rest of humanity. Always looking for problems but never for answers.


Best Wishes,
Adam

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/customavatars/avatar12471_2.gif < -- what has happened to this item?

Addition: so as it turns out not big words or delusions but entire bodies of evidences , models, hypotheses..

[Cristian]

Find somewhere else to troll, this is important work..

Well the only other topic I really want to troll is kreagle's Bible topic. Unfortunately I promised him I will not do that. So I took my toys out of his thread and since then I am looking for another thread to troll. And when I stumbled upon your threads I looked at my rubber duckie , tears where coming out of our eyes , knowing we found a home at last.
But now it seems we have to relocate again. :(

I will read again tomorrow everything you posted on this forum; with a very open mind. If I missed something, if I think we can somehow relate, at some level, I will get back to you. If not you will never see me or duckie on your threads again.






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[ThePythonicCow]

I will read again tomorrow everything you posted on this forum; with a very open mind. If I missed something, if I think we can somehow relate, at some level, I will get back to you. If not you will never see me or duckie on your threads again.

That might be for the better, actually :).

I usually suggest that if the opposing views on a thread become too sharp, it is better to make separate threads of it.

In this case however I will confess that I have a bit more than this in mind.

The more I attempt to read of your posts, 7redorbs, the less sense they are making to me. We limit promotion of the non-free works of others on this forum to those areas where we think that are of benefit to the forum members. I will confess that I am beginning to have doubts whether such is so, for the work presented on this thread.

[Bill Ryan]

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Like Paul, as a formally trained physicist and mathematician I'm not qualified or able to comment on many of these concepts. I simply don't understand them, and it would be cheap and deceptive if I were to pretend that I did. :)

But having said that: I do remember in Robert Collins' book Exempt From Disclosure, there was a very credible report towards the end of the book from a black projects physicist in Los Alamos who had said that in order to back-engineer the ET craft at their disposal, they had to start learning physics again from scratch, discarding all the concepts and constructs which they all believed they knew and understood. (my paraphrase)

[Jean-Luc]

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...they had to start learning physics again from scratch, discarding all the concepts and constructs which they all believed they knew and understood. (my paraphrase)



Posted by M.T. Keshe - http://www.keshefoundation.org/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=3191&start=460
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"Walk away in thinking in physical barrier terms and think in Magravs strength barrier and you will find new dimensions in operation that is flexible, easy and joy to work with".


. :)

[Tesseract]

I have been meaning to reply to this for a week, since finding the thread thanks to Chris’s comment bumping it into view. I did vacillate about how to go about this – just let loose and not care about blowing away the OP? Or, try and be polite, after all, Avalon does have some standards of civility. Let’s see how we go.

I’m not going to address every suspect point made by the OP as it would take forever, and the language used by the OP makes certain of his statements open to interpretation and therefore any critic would be open to the accusation of mis-interpreting the OP. Nonetheless I will do my best to express a few of my concerns, dissatisfactions and general thoughts.

1) The OP makes a big noise about the fact you can’t actually see an electron. Of course you can’t, eyes detect light. No one is claiming you can see electrons. Even if you go down the path of wave-particle duality the DeBroglie wavelength of an electron is too small for the human eye to detect.


2) OP states “I have discovered that the electron consists of a north and south pole magnet”. Electrons have mass, charge and spin. These are fundamental properties of the electron. What is spin? Why is it called that? Spin is a bit of a puzzle, just like mass and charge, but it is described as being angular momentum at the quantum level – the upshot is that it is related to the magnetic moment that the electron possesses. It is called spin because it is as if the magnetic moment is caused by a ‘spinning’ charge. So, the OP has not in fact discovered anything new, scientists have known about it for a long time and there is even a branch of spectroscopy dedicated to studying chemicals with an unpaired electron (ESR spectroscopy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electron_paramagnetic_resonance ) The below link is an honest introduction to electron spin in general

http://www.electronspin.org/

3) OP states “ I can increase the strength of an electromagnet on a ruler, by simply balancing the ruler on the edge of a metal table. This is proof that gravity and magnetism are connected.” So, instead of posting about it on Avalon, my advice is to write up your experiment in full detail, and then submit it to a respected journal for peer review. That is the best way to get your results across to the people who need to see them.

4) The OPs constant assertion that electrons categorically do not exist is contradicted by his constant invocation of electrons to explain physical behaviours.

5) The OPs description of batteries is not helpful, sorry but I have to be honest here. It is confusing in the extreme, and actually contains some statements that are not generally correct. Due to the OPs woeful writing about this field I have to doubt the OPs level of knowledge in this area. Therefore, I have no confidence that he really has a lot of knowledge in the other areas that he writes about.

6) The OP does appear to use the words magnets and orbits or orbitals in different contexts which makes it near impossible to follow his reasoning.

7) I would like to state that I am all for counter-theories in science. I have read some truly brilliant and thought provoking material online that attacks some of the modern paradigms in physics. Good writing is essential to allowing others to understand your ideas, and they must understand them in order to adopt them. The link below is one of my favourites, I think it was hosted somewhere else originally – you need to see the pictures for the most pleasure.
http://oaxismundi.blogspot.com/2010/10/particle-wrong-turn-that-led-physics-to.html .

8) Due to his poor writing, the OP fails, IMO, to impart knowledge to the reader. His work is an act of obscurantism rather than an act of revelation. This is particularly sad if there is indeed a useful fact or two buried in his rambling.

9) The OPs general disdain for scientists is absurd and only serves to highlight his own prejudices.


10) I suggest the OP take a look at what conventional, educated scientists have achieved over the last 250 years. Does he not think it’s impressive? Today scientists continue to achieve amazing accomplishments such as sending probes to the moons of Saturn, measuring the speed of approaching galaxies, creating devices that store a library of information on a chip the size of your fingernail, building lasers that can fix your eyesight and so on. And yet we scientists, according to the OP, have done all of this at the same time as we are completely wrong about everything! It’s farcical.

11) If the book is written in as confusing a manner as the OPs posts then I understand why the OP resorted to self publishing.


12) The alternative community has an appetite for, well, what you might call ‘science on magic mushrooms’. Thinking outside the box is good, but one must have standards. I encourage Bill and every other person trained (including self-trained) in science to ask the obvious questions and highlight the obvious contradictions. There will always be someone more expert. Congratulations Chris for having the intellectual fortitude to give this the duck. I liked the duck btw.

[ThePythonicCow]

Let’s see how we go.
I may regret saying this, but on first read, your post makes good sense to me. Thanks.

[HaveBlue]

Then I'll say it with no regrets and here's why. There's an old saying 'if you can't dazzle em' with brilliance then baffle em' with BS.

The OP has done neither to this poster. Why? Because if there was anything to it then he'd produce the goods. You show your device under load and measure the torque. (Watts)

This is why John Searle has nothing. Apply a load to his contraptions and they stop. Watching something go around due to magnetism is nothing. Apply a load (resistance) and then if it still goes it produces torque. AKA Work, (joules) Then you have something.

Watching a steel ruler move up and down next to an electric motor that is producing the magnetism acting on the ruler, strength depending on how much mains power is given (and then taken away), AKA elecro magnetism then claiming some 'energy' unknown or supressed by TPB is beyond a joke.

Yet another case of, all thought and theory (fancy words and numbers) and no substance.

[7redorbs]

To those that believe my explanations are hearsay , unfounded, or non peer reviewed scientific assumptions consider that light is highly magnetic of inconceivable power than the laws of motion previously predicted for the last 100 years (2011, University of Michigan). It's proven what I am saying.

Academics know nothing but textbooks and equations. Which describe things admirably, but if they are perceptually incorrect, they are always wrong. Like The greeks theory of gravity, and the embarassing accumulations of contradictory evidence. Like the greeks theory of solar motion, and the embarassing accumulation of inventive epicycles to "prop up the broken invention of the greeks". This is a method not unfamiliar to that of Einstein. When an inventive effort breaks down, simply invent a new one to prop it up. Newton would have been appalled. So what is going on here anyway?

IA079jWyAm4

Not just says me, Dollard, Leedskalnin, Tesla, University of Michigan, Egor Babaev and the list actually goes on. Faster than light waves did exist in the Marconi facility post 1914-1917 until R.C.A took it over. Tesla gave the speed of his electrical propogations as pi / 2 * C, a full 1.57 times faster than Einstein's fallacy law of relativity predicts. Let's see what Tesla had to say about it:

"He described relativity as a 'beggar wrapped in purple whom ignorant people take for a king.' In support of his statement he cited a number of experiments he had conducted as far back as 1896 on the cosmic ray. He has measured cosmic-ray velocities from Antarus, he said, which he found to be fifty times greater than the speed of light, thus demolishing, he contended, one of the basic pillars of relativity, according to which there can be no speed greater than that of light.”
-- New York Times, 7/11/35.

Professor Wheatstone, inventor of the wheatstone bridge and the principles of electrical measurement for analog multimeters gave the electrostatic discharge as 291,000 miles per second aswell, a full 105,000 miles per second faster than einstein's speed of light, or rather pi / 2 * C . Professor Wheatstone, Tesla, Dollard all give the same propagation velocity for their electrical waves. Deluded sciences of fallacy? No. Pioneers that designed working equipment that were motivated by these 1.57 speed of light waves.

Nothing is left for "guessing". You are all just wrong. I'm sorry, but I am not the con man. You are the con men. Or the conned.

Whilst you were busy believing what you were taught and educated. I was busy doing the experiments and research.

Did you not notice all the current science laws of today were built on the heresy of people like Volta, and Tesla yesterday? Most of Tesla's best ideas were considered ridiculous for his time. Yet, they lay in use today.

This is not a fallacy, this is new science. It is to be expected that those that regard the heresy of yesterday as the immovable laws of today, would consider Einstein an exception to the general rule of fallacy. That is, the fallacy of gravity invented by the greeks was quite improper. It would be 2000 years until someone with enough bravery like Galileo and Newton were to inductively prove the inventions of the greeks wrong.

There was nothing wrong with the greeks maths, or the greeks reasoning. They were simple lacking some important piece of information that prevented a proper explanation being true and holding to the rigorous laws of the ultimate method of science. In the case of Newton , now instead of thinking inventively as the greeks did was thinking inductively and he eventually could see several important peices of information, in the same way that galileo did. And in the case of those that glory in the achievement of einstein, they are making the assumption that an inductive process, or rather an accumulation of contradictory inventive terms, will not occur again. Such as the clear and concise examples i have given of these contradictory accumulations, such as the unexplainable perpetual motion of electrons orbiting their atoms, or rays from stars consisting of an immense magnetic field that creates light and all things. Now it is being proven, just in the last 2 years. Against all fundamental laws of motion and it is 100 million times more powerful than predicted.

My work stands testament to all that Tesla believed. And I would thank you for giving it the fair chance, and proper research and inspection that such a monumental thing would require.

The only assumption being made by all the correct science and maths today is that einstein's relativity has and will not collect an EMBARRASSING accumulation of contradictions, in the same way that Newton, The Greek's and others did. Indeed, the only assumption is by you scientists who would discredit me and my careful and exhaustive research and models - your only assumption is that Einstein is an exception to the universal rule of science and conceptualisation, rather than an example of it. And that means I am deluded? It seems clear to me scientists in here are the ones who are deluded. Insanity even.

History will record the victors, and truth will be recorded by real gods. Not the self appointed Gods of men, that were taught every single thing they've assumed unmovable, without even seeing an electron. An electron curve , or the light that is coming from the so-called electrons which you einsteinians hold so fear, being curved aswell.

"Let the future tell the truth and evaluate each one according to his work and accomplishments. The present is theirs; the future, for which I really worked, is mine."


Bill Ryan, I appreciate you taking the time to reply to this thread but ultimately I would not ask people to buy technology for a new future, I would ask them to study. Study hard. Find the truth. It is so much stranger than fiction. And anyway if einstein is wrong - and the physicists are wrong about electrons which I have now proved - conclusively - then it would be highly inadvisable to reject such a proposal without a proper considered research and reflection. It took me a decade to reach many of the conclusions I have come to. Names like Dollard, Leedskalnin, Tesla, are all you need. Such a thing being true would require the slow and painful deconstruction of most of the tenets of science established in the last 100 years, and that is exactly what is now happening. (whether we like it or not)

Please, forget about me, and remove all links to solomon-books and my book if you really do think that I would be so self centered to attempt profit from a scam. I say what I say because I have done experiments and have come to the frightful conclusions that have been time and time again established.

If just one person can tell me why atoms rotate perpetually around their atoms. I could go home happy. But today, the substitution of technical competence for misplaced greed and commerce is the most disgusting thing - and it can only be a result of the clearly delusive idea that energy is not free. An inconceivable amount of free energy from our star and the stars in all this cosmos is beaming down into this planet. All of it wireless and electrostatically conveyed at a speed faster than that of light. (really). Indeed this is something Tesla, Dollard Leedskalnin and myself repeatedly and repeatedly assert. Have you studied our lives? I think you'll find if it's money we're after, we did a poor job of it.

All on deaf ears i'm afraid. It is not hard to tell if a trained mathematician or physicists is deluded, just ask him why electrons are motivated by locomotion around an atom and where that force might come from. They will never answer. This is the tell tale signs of a conceptually wrong idea, something of which the clear thinkers and engineers of yesterday, i.e. the inductive thinkers would never have permitted.

The problem with inventors is they accuse people like me of invention whilst holding onto a physics of electrons which does plainly not exist. Nobody has ever seen an electron ever. But it doesn't stop people quacking endlessly parroting the same old laws. This is something that the greeks did for 2000 years, scientists are small minded men if they truly believe that Einstein is an exception to this rule rather than an example of it. Truly.

This is not a con, this is new science. Remove all links to my book. I care not about the book. I care about the truth. It is why I wrote the book, and I disrespect those that would claim otherwise. You are small men.

Best,
A

[7redorbs]

Faster than light travel, breaking of conservational principles and more.

As it turns out "science" shows me to NOT be incorrect. Your silence can speak volumes. My truth needs no man to speak for it. For it is being shown to be true by real scientists at MIT like Walter Lewin. Time and time again. But no space-time. hmmm...


http://www.spacedaily.com/reports/MIT_researchers_discover_a_new_kind_of_magnetism_999.html

Science remarkably shows this to be a reality. Other than getting the credit and modern dating incorrect. This is in fact an old invention of Tesla's. Indeed, the first radio patent was 1.57C, that is over 1 and a half times in excess to the speed of light given by Einstein as a speed limit.

To put it bluntly "oh dear"

MIT researchers discover a new kind of magnetism

Boston MA (SPX) Dec 21, 2012

" It may take a long time to translate this "very fundamental research" into practical applications, Lee says. The work could possibly lead to advances in data storage or communications, he says - perhaps using an exotic quantum phenomenon called long-range entanglement, in which two widely separated particles can instantaneously influence each other's states. The findings could also bear on research into high-temperature superconductors, and could ultimately lead to new developments in that field, he says.

"We have to get a more comprehensive understanding of the big picture," Lee says. "There is no theory that describes everything that we're seeing." "


Read the full article at

http://www.spacedaily.com/reports/MIT_researchers_discover_a_new_kind_of_magnetism_999.html


Story of the Missing

Don't miss our future, when it's hidden in the past. Kind and going out of fashion. Will einstein be an exception, or an example of the rule of deprecated and superceded theory.
The author is beginning to wonder if Einstein's space-time even exists.

"Einstein always did have a problem with it". - two widely separated particles can instantaneously influence each other's states. He never did like it. Not one bit at all. Einstein frowned and the world cried "WE shall not frown like the little boy that cried the speed of light". THE END.


The only differnce between these scientists and me, is that I will give Tesla the credit he deserves, for his apparatus that can transmit at 1.57C as well as his instantaneous transmitter, of a speed of infinite C; the T.M.T wardenclyffe invention that tesla historically claimed could transmit "regardless of distance". Here is the scientific principle of research showing, clearly, without obfuscation or any confusion that what Tesla stated was a working reality, not only was possible, but was a working reality then, as well as this science research of today showing that all the claims he made, might be 100% scientifically true.

Indeed, this is not old or current MODERN science. It is incredibly old ancient science, and relatively old modern science, the future that was stolen from Tesla over 100 years ago now. That will be retaken. Whether the imbasile or the fool chooses to chime in his own efforts or not, the past modern science literature is becoming the reality it always was. The 1.57C transmitter was in operation for 4 years until the military and government took over the marconi bolinas facility.

The reason they had to take it over was that it was using tesla's faster than light patents, and threatened the "good american way of material life and economy". It didn't only have those Einstein speed Hertzian velocity waves. It had the tesla faster than light velocities.


This would have to be dealt with, and removed as soon as possible.

And that is what happened. They removed the tesla faster than light waves, and resulted in the imprisonment of humanity to einstein limitation 1.0C Electromagnetic waves. It would now be "against the law" to believe or do work, to experiment with any other type of wave. In fact the faster than light waves are now classified from 1918-present.

Here they were saving their material age of greed and war, and the 60's and 70's cold war along with it. Killing and slaying then, were they the free energy system, the faster than light system that couldn't possibly ever exist, yet it did, because if such a system ever existed then the conservation of energy principle would break down and we could all have abundant amounts of energy without leveraging our trillions of $ investment in fossil fuels and other hazardous petrochemicals. Gone would be industry, and teh rampant and runaway control of the american and "democratic" state. Gone would be the null-enterprise of deception, and born could be the real free-enterprise, for all meaning of the intensive word, FREE. This is what had to be slain by Radio Corporation America. Slain must the multiple loaded flat top antenna of 1.57C longitudinal dielectric propogations, and kept the billions of times more inefficient hertzian transverse einstein 1.0C rhombic D transmitter. Slain and killed, destroyed and vanquished is the faster than light waves, and heralded is the inefficient and deceitful, the destructive and the life destroyer rhombic D hertzian einstein 1.0C waves, which ruin the chromosomal life of all plants and animals. 100% mutation with some seeds. Shocking. There will be no faster than light on this earth R.C.A and Sarnoff hum. Russia and other states had different plans.

Me and the other forward thinking heretics, we make the current laws of tomorrow, that their future scientists will hold so dear. But true innovators, and inductive thinkers know, their thoughts will one day be that of an old science, that the new heretics will replace, and their future kin will hold onto the past idea like wolves and hyaenas yet again. This holding onto the old past heretic scientists' ideas, it is the highest insanity. For what of todays that build tomorrow? You are ignorant of them, and the future, and even the ancient past. Shame on you.

A charge which most people on this forum are guilty, whom have chosen to slander the thread without truly understanding it. Shame on you.

My theory shows how gravity is NOT caused by mass. That gravity is CAUSED by the cosmic rays traveling through into the earth 1000's of miles, which causes the EFFECT of gravity in the mass. Without the external cosmic equal and opposite force, there would be no equal and opposite gravity. This process of gravity creation in dense atomic structures at the centre of the earth is caused in the same way that light rays are caused by the solar rays hitting radium, or other radioactive material.

Once sufficiently shielded, the radioactivity of the material (radium light ray), and/or it's gravity structure is completely negligent to masses creation of radioactivity, light, and gravity.

Behold the true meaning of science. To account properly for these forces. Not to wildly discredit the inductive approach I have used - and worse, using poorly thought models of inventive science that fail to account for the processes that have been given time and time again.

Science is at the beginning of a revolution. And it doesn't matter what you think. Because the super conductive high temperature liquid's I have been working with , and it's new kind of magnetism. Appears to already have been discovered.

"A quantum liquid state" these scientists harp, well, if they want to call it that, it's fine with me, but i've been experimenting with it for quite some time now. As well as curving electrons and light in iron structure. It matters little what the attempts to subvert my work cause now, as the body of science itself, since the end of 2012 have officially discovered what Leedskalnin discovered circa 1945, what Tesla discovered circa 1896 and what the pyramid builders discovered circa 11500- 16,000 BC.

instantaneous action, bye bye equal and opposite forces, byebye conservation, byebye relativity, byebye einstein. This will be a permanent adjustment to society when people realize that space-time DOES NOT EXIST as a primary function, only as a secondary invention to explain atomic events. What I have been working with is not just atomic, but sub atomic.

Now you know why Einstein always had a problem with it, he was at least smart enough to understand that it went against everything he believed. Exactly that, everything he believed. He died without showing he known a way it could exist without violating his most coveted law. though it seems scientists at MIT are well on their way to doing this, and I commend them, for when they do it without adam bull, or jon de pew, or jeremy stride, or eric dollard, or edward leedskalnin or nikola tesla, it will not change the truth. It will only seek to confirm our statements. If not today, then one day.


Energy is free. All of it. It's all wireless, and like gravity, light, radiation, consists of north and south poles, everything does. These are not my claims, but ancient ones and the more modern ones of Nikola Tesla and Edward Leedskalnin. People should do their research before discrediting me, as they are discrediting the proven works of the genius Tesla, Leedskalnin and Dollard, and there are now many publications carrying stories of faster than light and instantaneous transmission or strange instantaneous transfer. When the inventor of radio himself suggested it and said that he had created an apparatus where his waves were 1.57 times faster than light in 1896, and claiming later on he had found a way to transmit data at an infinite velocity (quote "completely regardless of distance"). What of this?

Or perhaps the Bolinas facility of Marconi using these darn 1.57C non-existent waves? Yes, at 1.57 times the speed of light, and they used them for 4 years between 1914 and 1917, until the military and government took-over Marconi and radio and monopolized it for themselves. What of it? Only ignorance to be found here in planet know it all avalon?

Unbelievable? It's just the truth. I'm trying to give you people it back but many of you have been brainwashed by inventive thinking.

Do not let your own humanity fall on your own deaf ears.

Best Wishes,
Adam Bull

[Dennis Leahy]

I still say, give Adam Bull (7redorbs) a podium and the benefit of the doubt.

Bill did not poop on this, he said
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Like Paul, as a formally trained physicist and mathematician I'm not qualified or able to comment on many of these concepts. I simply don't understand them, and it would be cheap and deceptive if I were to pretend that I did. :)

But having said that: I do remember in Robert Collins' book Exempt From Disclosure, there was a very credible report towards the end of the book from a black projects physicist in Los Alamos who had said that in order to back-engineer the ET craft at their disposal, they had to start learning physics again from scratch, discarding all the concepts and constructs which they all believed they knew and understood. (my paraphrase)

I also think it is fair to say that Adam has not explained the concepts well enough for:
1.) anyone who has studied physics, and feels they have a grounding in physics laws. This could be the toughest audience to explain contradictory concepts to - especially if any of the "laws" are wrong.
2.) non-scientists, and/or those without a grounding in physics concepts

Take that as a challenge, and as constructive criticism. Go back to the most basic concept required as a foundation for your thought process, and explain it and refine your explanation until it is understood (at least by some here), and then move on to the next building-block in the concept. Don't get frustrated. Or, to say it better, don't let frustration stop you - let it simply be a sign that you need to re-refine your explanation or that you did not go back to a basic enough level to provide a solid foundation for explaining the concept. If you have truth, let nothing stop you. If you have truth that is meant to push science - especially applied physics as it relates to "free energy" - forward, then it is probably why you incarnated on Earth at this time. Don't stop.

Dennis

[Grumpy Cat]

Though I have no background in Physics, all I can say is keep doing what you're doing. Keep seeking the truth - if your ideas have merit, eventually they will be heard by those willing to listen. I just hope that, if you are indeed 'on the right track' in regards to this, you/your ideas aren't swallowed up by the government in an attempt to keep the world stuck in it's current paradigm.

The world needs more free thinkers.

[Tesseract]

I also think it is fair to say that Adam has not explained the concepts well enough for:


Dennis

In science, this often signifies that the person does not understand what they are talking about.

[ThePythonicCow]

I also think it is fair to say that Adam has not explained the concepts well enough for:
1.) anyone who has studied physics, and feels they have a grounding in physics laws. This could be the toughest audience to explain contradictory concepts to - especially if any of the "laws" are wrong.
2.) non-scientists, and/or those without a grounding in physics concepts

There is a third group, Dennis.

Those who, while they in some way studied conventional math, science and physics earlier in their life, neither accept conventional theories now because they are conventional, nor accept alternatives simply because they are anti-conventional. Rather they trust in an underlying way of thinking, perceiving, discussing and building shared understandings of the universe we live in, a way that transcends such conventions.

This not a debate over whether the conventional or unconventional views are more correct. There are diversity of both kinds of views, and either deep flaws or worse fatal confusions in many.

The question is not which mountain we climb, but how we "walk" as individuals, and how we communicate and cooperate in the communities we form.

Those most willing and able to work with others on improving our understandings of physics will be found in this third group.

[Hervé]

Although not from this thread but another one regarding the publishing of Adam's book: http://www.lulu.com (http://www.lulu.com/)

[Jean-Luc]

@Adam

Although I have only skimmed through this thread for the time being (I will surely come back) I believe I understand your mixed feelings and the anger that perspires through some of your posts after your many, many years of research, trials & errors, efforts, writing, etc... when faced to the wall of skepticism of conventional knowledge.

I am with you about the puzzle of the energy required to have an electron spin around a proton for eons. It is an argument I have myself be using for ages to those rebutting the possibility of limitless energy.

I think you should be most interested by Keshe's theories that seem to very much be in line whith what you are saying.

So could I kindly suggest you to approach the Keshe Foundation which recently upgraded its own forum with the very same V-Bulletin software engine as this one on Avalon, and is in full developments of study groups based on individuals like you (and very much anyone else also really interested to make the ball rolling).

Incidentally, here is what Merhan Keshe had to say on the speed of light which should be of interest to you:
(‘mafs’ stands for magnetic fields)



Can matter travel faster than the speed of light and if yes

Matters can and do travel faster than the speed of light by factor of 10 to the power several 10s of thousands.

This meaning the present assumption that the light is the ultimate speed of motion is incorrect and thus the famous equation of relativity would not hold.

This reality will change the truth about the present one track assumption that the speed of light is the ultimate speed.

In fact on can say that the speed of light is the ultimate speed in matter environment mafs and not in all environments mafs , and hence for example the speed of light in the principal matter mafs environment has speed which are up to factor of 10 to power of several thousands faster than the of speed of light in the matter environment.

Thus once one has matter which is in principal matter environment then the same matter will travel at the higher speed and hence the same matter will be observe the speed at this environment magnetic field strength.

In reality that the matter has a speed of light is due to the fact that once the lights speed passes this limit then the matter will brake its own light barrier and enters a new dimension of higher order magnetic fields strength.

Thus the matter can travel with speed of principals matter light once its is carried within this higher order matter mafs.

Therefore one can travel the span of universe in times which are unimaginable once one cane cocoon oneself with the higher order mafs strength . Then the speed of light in matter environment and the mass of the matter become irrelevant and the equation of relativity becomes obsolete.

For the ones who did not understood, read the new book and the ones who did understand, then that is to say the speed of light of principal matter (antimatter) are much faster than the speed of light in matter the like of human matter world, thus in every level of matter there is a light and the observation of light in that magnetic fields strength is Magravs environment dependent.

Thus as the man is made of matter, then in principal mafs strength he will and can travel at this speed and as the matter is matter mafs strength dependent , thus its energy is and can not be calculated to be its environments’ speed of light dependent

Or in simpler language, rap your craft with principal mafs strength and then travel the universe with the speed of present matter light multiplied by factor of several thousands times. (Any one fancy trip to Mars in five minutes, where most of the time is due to re-entries and exit from atmosphere). Well come to the true world of universal speeds of motion.

M.T. Keshe - June 2011
http://forum.keshefoundation.org/showthread.php?170-Can-matter-travel-faster-than-the-speed-of-light-and-if-yes&p=1078&viewfull=1#post1078



which confirms and goes beyond Marconi's system you were alluding to:



In any case, the Marconi System is not famously known for the fact that it exhibited wave forms that travelled 1.5645161290322580645161290322581 faster than the speed of light. Yes, that is right, and you likely will have never heard it before. You can check by reading Eric Dollards books on the subject of Tesla.

Keshe is going his own way in a rather original manner.

(1) Providing his technology / concepts for free to any government that makes the request (60 % of governments worldwide have done so in the last couple of months)
(2) Opening things up to the public via study groups through his forum as of... now : http://forum.keshefoundation.org/forumdisplay.php?31-Keshe-Foundation-Study-group

I believe you could become a first class & outstanding member and that the collaboration could be very fruitful.

I think this is in line with what you are saying:


Bill Ryan, I appreciate you taking the time to reply to this thread but ultimately I would not ask people to buy technology for a new future, I would ask them to study. Study hard. Find the truth. It is so much stranger than fiction.

The whole thing (of sharing and developing the knowledge with the public via the new forum) is still in its infancy (and bound to be somewaht frustrating at times) but is promising. It also could definitely receive a big BUMP should the announcement about the delivery of (a limited release of) the Foundation generator be indeed on schedule (i.e. end of Feb 2013, for the time being: http://forum.keshefoundation.org/showthread.php?931-Announcement-about-the-delivery-of-the-Foundation-Generator)


Last, if you don’t know where to start with Keshe, why not have a go with Kimberley’s (Avalon & Keshe forum member) excellent recent interview here :

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?53117-Kimberley-s-interview-w-Mr-Mehran-Keshe-12-10-12-Please-Listen-Important---&p=598516&viewfull=1#post598516

In any case, thanks a lot for your efforts. I’ll be back.

[SnowyOwl]

@Adam I am sorry, I do not have the time right now to read the whole thread. But it's worth it to hold on this wild impatient horses and believe me I do understand the exasperation one's feel when running against the Wind, the Institution and Mental Cohesion itself. I am ending almost two years of Nikola Tesla Life via docs in many languages and there is indeed a lot more than what is known. For instance concerning the Teslascope of Arthur H. Matthews who has spend his life up here in Québec. Maybe taking a pause and come back in a week or so. fyi, there was 3 more Tesla towers Up here, one in Sanford, one in Desbiens and the third one in Tadoussac. There is indeed a lot of infos on those and I shall come back on this pretty soon. Meanwhile some info (Matthews audio) Arthur Mathews - Tesla's Last Assistant 1-3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5gBXDvhXBs

[SnowyOwl]

Hi everyone :)

Thank you, thank you ever so much. Remember, I don't want anything, or to advertise my work at the above site Paul. I know there is a lot of good information there that has taken me so so long to make the progress towards. People who would like to understand the technical details in a more simple way than the SFTS Lectures (they are intended with scientists and engineers), then perhaps the Ham Radio SBARC talk that Eric gives is more suitable.

It is where I started with Dollard, and as soon as I saw it, I knew I'd discovered someone, and something very very special indeed.

This means that the EFFECT LEADS AHEAD OF the cause in time. Or more simply, the cause is ahead in time of the effect, and lags after the thing that it seems to be producing. This blows all science out of the water. All of it. That's why it's classified, eh?

It is also not entirely simple, I had to revise the above paragraph about 5 times, to explain fully what is going on. It is simplifiable, and it is my hope I am doing that enough for people of all walks of life understanding the importance of Tesla, Leedskalnins, Reich & Dollards work, and many many other brilliant human beings that still exist today. Time I believe does run short though.

If I am right about this particularly, it does a lot more than disprove electrons, or demonstrate faster than light. It shows that the faster than light waves, operate in the counterspace that Eric Dollard writes about in his books. The wave (my cause) appears to propogate backwards in time, so that the leading effect, to lagging cause, can come before, and meet my closing terminal. The way it does this is by traveling upwards towards my switch, before it has been closed.

I have caught this nearly 100 times, in about 1000 - 2000 different types of shot. I need bettery camera's and people need to do the work themselves now. Either the electricity is alive and is able to anticipate my actions, or electrical wave are propagating forwards and backwards through time. Or, I am a mad scientist, perhaps, that is quite mistaken. (accepting).

I hope it finds you well and this meets the unexpected thirst and interest my post seems to have raised on this forum. I have to say I am so very glad.

ERIC DOLLARD @ SBARC:
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MY VIDEO DEMONSTRATION UPLOADED TODAY FOR PROJECT AVALON TO SHOW EFFECT PRECEDING CAUSE, I have named this effect the &quot;Dollard Tesla Leedskalnin effect&quot;
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e.g. I don't want credit. I want patents, and the lie of energy scarcity to end. We have electrical waves which are propogating forwards and backwards in time, at least, if I am right- and if I am right, then the world is due for a revolution of a socio-political and scientific kind never seen in this century. Or rather, for the last 100 years it should have been undergoing it such, if it was not for the unwelcome , immoral and unfair interference of the military government &quot;lucifer group&quot; since about the inception of RCA.

:) Thank you, Thank you all, so much. I promise I am not making this up, and I promise if you look into it you will discover there is much that we will have to do to save this technology for being destroyed, by groups like Commonweal, R.C.A and the military-government complex, which took control of the development and licensing of this technology, as well as a patent monopoly in 1914.

That silly old story &quot;if we had it we'd be using it story&quot; peddled by the ministry of skepticism et al, becomes tired and wasted; as I have outlined it's assumption : that there wasn't a documented government-military conspiracy to take precedence of command and control of the technology.

Thanking you all again, you have lit a bright light today,

Best,
A

It is now a Consensus among ''Free Mindset People'' that information indeed precede its expressions.... But from what I gather from CERN and via Shamans experiences... This is made possible '' a priori' ' following a clear and resolute protocol or ritual. Snowy

[Dennis Leahy]

Meanwhile some info (Matthews audio) Arthur Mathews - Tesla's Last Assistant 1-3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5gBXDvhXBsOh my, that is awful audio! When I turned it up loudly enough to hear the words, the static was chasing my ears around my head like a pack of hounds. My ears were going to commit VanGogh-kari, and I shut off the video just in time so my ears dropped the knife. I wonder if there is a transcript of that anywhere...

Dennis

[7redorbs]

Meanwhile some info (Matthews audio) Arthur Mathews - Tesla's Last Assistant 1-3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5gBXDvhXBsOh my, that is awful audio! When I turned it up loudly enough to hear the words, the static was chasing my ears around my head like a pack of hounds. My ears were going to commit VanGogh-kari, and I shut off the video just in time so my ears dropped the knife. I wonder if there is a transcript of that anywhere...

Dennis

Dennis,

Quite ironically there is a transcript of it in my book on page 300-305

Here it is:



Tesla's Last Known Living Assistant's Recorded Statement
< BEGINNING OF TAPE >
In 1933 to 1943 by Arthur Mathews Province of Quebec, Canada.
To understand properly the first part of the story you will need a map of the province of Quebec, Canada. It was early in Spring that Major Henry Sanford of New York City came to Quebec with a number of friends. One of these friends was Nikola Tesla. Major Sanford owned a large camp in the Quebec woods not far from a place called Lake Edwards. Major Sanford invited me to go with them to his camp. We met in Quebec City at the old Lake Saint John railway station. The Lake Saint John railway at that time operated the railway between Quebec City and Chicoutimi at Lake Saint John. Major Sanford had a private train consisting of two coaches and a baggage car. The baggage car was loaded with electrical equipment. One item of that equipment was a 75 KW generator set. This generator was driven with a gasoline motor due to the fact that Major Sanford's camp was located at about almost 10 miles from the railway station and the only way to get there was by means of a foot path through the bush and a fortarge on which canoes could carry materials. And of course this meant that everything that we had had to be carried by hand. And then to make this more convenient, most of the heavy materials such as the 75 KW generators had been taken apart and packed in small containers.
We left that morning from Quebec at around 8:00 and I don't remember exactly what time it was when we arrived at Sanford station but it was around noon I believe. Arriving at Sanford station, the train was placed on a siding and we unloaded the baggage car. And from there I will try to remember all the members in the party as we arrived at Sanford station. Major Sanford and Mrs. Sanford, there was a trained nurse Miss Kidd, and Tesla and myself and twelve Indian guides. The head guide or chief was a man named Gro Louis. The material was divided up amongst us and we all had as much as we could carry. Some of the parcels were very heavy and required two guides to carry them. There was no particular rush for we could go as slow or as fast as we pleased, admiring the beautiful woods as we walked along. So finally we arrived at the camp sometime late that evening.
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My first job on arriving at the camp was to put the 75 KW generator together. When I completed the power plant we then built an exact model of a Tesla transformer which he had built at Colorado in 1898. I don't remember the exact date but I believe this was in 1898. This transformer was to transmit power through the earth without using any wires. After the transmitting transformer had been built, we then built three other transformers to receive the power, which would be sent from this big transformer. The first one was located about ten miles away in the bush, the second transformer was located at Lake Saint John near Desbiens and the third transformer was built later on at Tadoussac which was on the river Saint Lawrence.
For the purpose of making any required adjustments Tesla first used the nearby transformer which was about ten miles from the transmitter. Power was then sent to this ten mile away transformer and the power sent was considerable and convinced Major Sanford that the idea was practical. After proving to Major Sanford that his wireless power idea was workable, Tesla then turned his attention to some new things.
The first thing was radar and the war preventing idea. The radar was in fact part of this war preventer. It was the guide. TV was demonstrated and a voice operated typewriter and other things, which I will mention later on. Tesla had offered his idea of radar to the American government but whoever it was who investigated the idea did not think it was practical and so it was turned down.
One of the showpieces of Sanford was a gold wire aerial. This was used to receive short wave programs. This gold wire aerial was actually constructed by the Indian. I showed him how to do it and it was placed on top of two tall trees, which were about sixty-five feet apart. It was a gold plated aerial as I said. A cage type aerial which was used on the battleships at that time with twelve wires separated in the middle by a ring twelve inches in diameter tapering down to each end to two inches. At Sanford I constructed a number of short wave receivers which the major presented to some friends and the local hospital at Lake Edwards. Dr. Creed was one and he also presented one of the receivers to Gro Louis, the Indian guide. I should say the chief of the Indian guides. Tesla also built a microwave receiver, which were very small indeed.
One of the ideas of Tesla was a metal analyzer. This was very useful in finding out what certain pieces of metal were. I first used this at Ottawa in 1969. There was a large lump, chunk of metal had been discovered on the beach near Neuville and this piece of metal weighing something like three thousand pounds was taken to Valcartier Camp where they tried to find out what it was. It was a kind of a mystery and they were not able to find out what it was at Bacarte and then it was shipped to Ottawa to the national research council where they also did everything possible to find out what it was but they were not able to do that. Needless to say they could not be certain of what it was. The story went around that it fell from the sky and it was a part of a spaceship or something or other of that kind but no one could say exactly what it was. And so, in 1969 I was invited to go to Ottawa and test this with the tester, with the Tesla analyzer. I had, I still have in fact this invention of Tesla. Well, to shorten the story, I certainly found out what the piece of metal was using the Tesla analyzer.
Another wonder, it was a small portable TV machine. This TV machine could see through stone walls. In other words, like a camera, a special kind of camera, you pointed it at a wall and
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it could see anything on the other side of the wall. It recorded this on a tape of some kind and then you wind it up and you could transmit this picture which had been picked up through a stone wall and send it to a small screen. This screen of Sanford's was mounted on the wall and it looked like a colored picture of some kind. I said, in other tapes, ah, oil painting TV because when it was operating that's exactly what it looked like to me because it was like a picture in a nice frame on the wall and there were no visible wires to it but Tesla had a small box that he was operating from the table and as he operated this it could change these pictures that were seemingly coming from nowhere on this frame of some kind and it looked like, as I say, it looked like an oil painting and I had called it an oil painting TV. He had a camera with him during our trip through the bush and he had pictures recorded of us and the guide carrying parcels walking through the forest and he sent this picture to this oil painting picture and as I say it very much resembled an oil painting because it was in color. That's the first I had heard of the TV, and remember, this was in 1932.
Another marvel was a small recording machine, something like our modern tape recorders but it had no moving parts. It had no tape or anything else. It simply recorded and would play back your recording at a push of a button just exactly like our tape recorders but it would record for an hour or so and play back, as I said, what was recorded without the use of tape or any moving parts whatever. There was no motor in it.
Many of these ideas had been conceived by Tesla many years before but he did not have the opportunity to develop them and here at Sanford's it was a beautiful place, a magnificent place, a beautiful workshop which had been constructed by Major Sanford, well equipped with almost everything you could think of.
Another fearful fantastic idea which Tesla developed with Sanford was his dark idea. This would also prevent wars. But would it? I believe that this could also be used to make war because the equipment could be carried in an airplane and it would float over a city and put it to dark. Not a bit of light anywhere would show. This is, to me, a most fearful idea. You turn on a switch and everything goes dark. There would be no electric lights, no lights in your car, your headlights would not show, if you strike a match it would burn but it would not show any light. No form of light whatever, instantly, the moment the switch is closed. So then Tesla said that if war started and the switch was turned on, the war would not be able to continue because nobody would be able to see. I wonder how it would be? I wonder if it would ever be used? Can you imagine what would happen in a big city, say at noontime, suddenly, not a pick of light anywhere; the sun would suddenly die out. Headlights of cars would not turn on and so it would be a terrible mess. And this apparatus, according to Tesla, could be put to work and control whole nations, either a city, or a village, a town, or the whole nation. All of America, all of Canada, of a press of a button. Is it a good idea? I really don't know.
Apart from the very big things used all over the world, inventions of Tesla, there are a number of little things. Very important little things. For instance, the ignition system which, I believe, is used in almost every car in the world. It was invented by Tesla many years ago. But certainly all of the cars that I can think of use the same identical ignition system which was invented by Tesla at the beginning of the century and no one has been able to find a better system. The speedometer, which is also used in almost every car in the world, also invented by Tesla. So was the ship's log. Most ships in the world use the Tesla Log.
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The hydro system, that is to say, the method for driving generators to produce electricity from waterfalls, was one of the great inventions of Tesla. The first power plant in the entire world was Niagara Falls, which was built by the Westinghouse Company in 1895. It's one of the few things, which had Tesla's name on it up to recent years.
Tesla also developed a number of ideas for helping overcome pain in the human being such as sciatica, rheumatism and all kinds of things like that and he uses a small electrical vibrator.
Another one of his great inventions was the electric car. He built the first one in 1897 and he drove from New York City to Buffalo, New York and it had an average speed of 94 miles an hour. This car, if it was built today, would cost one-cent a mile to operate and it would cost practically nothing for repairs because apart from the mechanical parts, that is to say the wheels and the steering apparatus where they would compose the only moving parts, the engine in this electric car is a small alternating current motor which runs at the tremendous speed of thirty thousand rpm and this is reduced to eighteen hundred by means of a fluid transmission, also the invention of Tesla. The whole electric car is a magnificent piece of work and it could be put in use today and save the public hundreds of billions of dollars now wasted in gasoline and oil and spare parts. I could give a few details about this electric car. You see, it does not use a storage battery. It uses the special primary battery and if you know anything about primary batteries you'll know that the only part of a primary battery which fails is the negative plate. Any little dry cells you use for your flashlight, for instance, is the zinc which gives way, and when that gives way the battery goes dead. Well now, Tesla invented a completely new kind of primary battery and in this primary battery, if the negative plate wears out, it can be replaced even by a child in a few seconds. And the battery, when installed in this electric car, will run that car five hundred miles before the battery needs to be attended to. And when the battery does need to be attended to it would take you ten minutes to remedy whatever is going on and the spare parts are all in the trunk. You have enough spare parts to keep that battery running twelve months of the year. You do not have to stop at the service station. You could run five hundred miles for instance at seventy five miles per hour, if you were allowed to do it of course, but you could run this car say fifty or sixty miles an hour right across the country and probably not have to stop more than fifteen minutes to attend to the batteries.
Well, some time in the future somebody will no doubt build this Tesla electric car but it will be when we have no more fuel oil or gasoline? I don't know how long the present oil supply will last. It certainly will not last forever so we will have to have other means of transportation. Would it be by the Tesla electric car?
If you have read my book, The Wall of Light, you will know the first part is the life story of Tesla. This story was written by Tesla himself and you will note in this story that Tesla gives full credit to God for his ability to discover some amazing new ideas in the Bible. As I have mentioned before the microwave comes from the fourth chapter of Revelations. In many places in his work Tesla mentions the fact that he was inspired by Bible study to conceive his amazing ideas. His idea of the alternating current comes from the book of Matthew. In other words from the Trinity. Tesla explains that his microwave, for instance, is not what many others think it is. It is not a wave, it is a dimension. The actual dimension of the beam. Tesla
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clearly states that his microwave is a beam which grows smaller. But he states that it's diameter is smaller than the hair of your head.
Another idea of Tesla is a locator. This will help you to find anything underground. It will help you to find metal deposits or liquid deposits such as island water. I wrote a story about this locator many years ago which was published in one of the radio magazines of that time and a man out west read my story and he wrote to me and he said that his father had died suddenly and left his money buried someplace on their three hundred acre farm and did I think that Tesla's locator would help him to find it? Well I wrote back and told him that sure, if you can build the Tesla locator you certainly would be able to find it if your father put it in a metal box or a metal lined box. Because if it was in a wooden box and the money was in paper then it would be very difficult to find it but if the money was in cache, coins or if it was in a money box then I was fairly sure he would be able to find it. Well, to make the story shorter I sent him a diagram of this locator. This man built the locator and he found the money.
Another marvelous idea of Tesla was what he called the translator. This was not a very large affair either. It was something about the size of a small tape recorder and it had many buttons on it and you pushed one of these buttons to translate a language. In other words the button would be of Japanese for instance, you'd push the Japanese button and it would translate the Japanese into whatever language you wanted such as English, French, Chinese, what not and so on.
Tesla also had a small gadget, which was a speed warner. This was about as big as a pocket wallet and once you were driving the car for instance he would set it and if you went too fast over the speed limit it would yell loudly and tell you if you were going too fast or not. There is no connection to the car whatever. You simply could carry this like a purse in your pocket. You set it for instance at fifty miles per hour and if you went over fifty miles an hour it would yell out.
Also at Sanford's, Tesla built what he called a gravity motor. This was a tripod of three tall trees, the logs of three tall trees, latched together at the top and in the center of the top part there is a pulley and over this pulley was a rope and you handed this rope that goes down a shaft at the base and a weight on the other end and when the weight was coming down it was turning the shaft and you had free power. Free power, which would last as long as the rock was falling down, turning the shaft. Leonardo de Vinci was said to have built such a power plant. It was absolutely free and very useful but one difficult point was the fact that you had to wind it up.
Many people write to me asking the question where can they find the best books concerning the life of Tesla? I have been answering letters like that for many years, since the early twenties in fact, and I give the same answer to everybody that writes to me. Where can they find information, which is true about Tesla? Well, you can find it in copies of his patents. You can get those patents or copies of the patents in the Washington patent office, Washington D.C., United States of America. Now there are also lectures and articles, which Tesla had published before 1943, in other words before he died. Anything published in recent years might be a little bit altered, I don't know. I don't say that the present day publications are altered but if you want all the truth without any guess work get copies of the original papers, lectures, articles,
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and patents, and his life story which is published in the first part of my book The Wall of Light.
Tesla was a man who minded his own business and wanted other people to mind theirs. He did not like gossip. His private life was his life and it belonged to no one else. He did not interfere with other people's business and he did not want anyone to interfere with his. Tesla was a down to earth kind of man. He was a mechanical engineer.
< TAPE CUTOFF >




Best Wishes,
Adam

[7redorbs]

Regarding the scientists that have commented about me "not knowing what I am talking about".

Might I refer you to the fundamental question of Einsteins relativity. What causes the negative charged electron to orbit perpetually around it's positively charged protons and neutrally charged neutron particles?

Simple question. And - if the "so-called" scientist's cant answer this simple and fundamental question, then perhaps they don't know what they are talking about. Other than repeating Einsteins assertions true parrot fashion. If they cannot account for the model with logical reasoning and must resort to a mathematical theory that LACKS fully the explanation of the thing it is modeling, then, perhaps scientists are less wise than they make themselves out to be.

Quite simply - the maths is right. Of course it is. The math's is always right. Newtons maths, correct. The greeks math's. Quite correct. Galileo's math, quite correct. Bohr's and Rutherford, Thompson's, All their maths, correct.

It was not the maths that was the problem. It was the conceptually wrong ideas the maths was based on, that failed to account for the full model. In this case the perpetual motion of the negatively charged orbiting electron.

It's a simple question science men. I double dare you to try and answer it without making a fool out of yourselves, that is what some here would see me do. But what of this fundamental question I ask? What of it? If you cannot say how, with the math's, then there is something missing from it.

Relativity

The only thing that is missing from this conceptually incomplete theory is what is missing from all conceptually incorrect theories - that is, some important piece of information. This is as it has always been in developing sciences - the case of an incomplete science; the missing piece of information is always fundamentally obstructing and preventing the correct conceptualization of the process and model being described, and results in an incomplete mathematical description.

Mathematical description of a theory and function model

The mathematics is admirable and eloquent, and quite correct. But then again A=A is correct, but it is conceptually flawed in that it tells us almost nothing. That is, an incomplete and incorrect conceptualization, always results in an inaccurate mathematical equation, which is always bearing the same mark of incompletion, such as in this case missing some fundamental thing, and the resultant inability to explain something such as perpetual electron orbits around positive and neutral charges and their source of energy, being one of those fundamental things.

"Einstein quackers" and the contradicting truth in Experimentation show non Kirchoffian , Non einsteinian Non conservatory particle streams

E=MC^2 is quite correct, but if you can transmit an ampere into the ground without drawing power from the electricity supply, because it is TOTALLY RESONANT - More than just Einstein and newton go out the window. But the fundamental laws of conservation itself.


The Quantum Wave Function
and how the electron and the atom are inherently unobservable

This is a deep problem of quantum wave functions that is truly yet to be fathomed, it stems from the Heisenberg uncertainty principle and the work of Dr. Schrodinger. Indeed a fundamental physics that shows that measuring the velocity cannot be acheived at the same moment of measuring the position, therefore fundamentally it is impossible to know the full properties of universal atomic theory, according to Heisenberg wave function principles. According to the wave function principles the atom is "INHERENTLY UNOBSERVABLE" quote unquote.

Scientific Facts about the Electron

So the model of the electron, by this fundamental precept, repeat, the model of the electron - is completely obligatory and assumed. Nobody has ever seen an electron. And that's a fact supported by the Uncertainty principle and quantum wave function. Admirably. It's a scientific fact.

A challenge to know it all scientists

Added, still waiting on the so-called science men's explanation of the perpetual electron orbits. I expect it will be a long time. (NON SCIENTISTS: note silence speaks volumes from "scientists".)


Best,
a

[Dennis Leahy]

It is extremely difficult not to fire back when you feel you have been attacked (actually, the credibility of your words has been attacked), but a "pissing contest" will only inflame emotional responses when what is called for is logic.

Adam, are you presenting something completely novel, or something that is a synthesis of others' work, or presenting others' work? Start there.

"I'm going to explain what Tesla meant by _______"

In your first post, you said:

For the last 10 years or so I have been involved in the researches and historic biography of several individuals involved in Electricity and free energy, including but not limited to the life of Nikola Tesla, Wilhelm Reich, Oliver Heaviside, Charles Proteus Steinmetz, Eric Dollard, Charles Wheatstone, Chris Carson, Kennely and James Clerk Maxwell and Faraday.

My work is really the sum total of a multitude of geniuses, and I take absolutely no credit for their work whatsoever. My work has broken me as a man, and challenged me as a soul, and I have the unfortunate duty of publishing my findings out to someone.If you are explaining something novel that is the synthesis of the work of these people, maybe insert just enough info into each background piece of the concept (and its author) for a foundation for a monologue. We have to clearly see ALL of the pieces if you are revealing an assembled puzzle - especially if it is a novel concept where we cannot simply rely on the research of the sources and their explanations.

C'mon brother, I really want to hear you out. Take a deep breath, forget about fighting back, and use the energy to explain your concepts on a level - including the foundational constructs - so that us non-physicists can understand it. I'm guessing that this will also give the folks with physics training/knowledge a clear picture. Then, if they attack the concepts, there will be no nebulous dismissal of you and all you have said, but rather an opportunity to refine and refine the explanation of the sub-concept (smaller puzzle piece) that is misunderstood. Science is not belief, so your task is not to get them to believe you (or believe in you) but you need to help get those of us that are interested in learning enough so that we have a clear understanding.

I'm thinking that every "man of science" wants to be challenged and given the opportunity to prove the science or at least offer a theorem that appears to be the best current theorem.

Dennis

p.s. Thanks for the transcript!

[Gardener]

This is an awesome thread, thank you!
What I wanted to comment on was that mathemeticians, nay anyone, can do almost anything with numbers to make them fit a good idea, so yea I can go with they got the math wrong. Correct me if I am wrong but didnt Einstein make a fudge which later had to be removed when it was found his first idea was correct based on later discovries.
This forum is really on the sharp edge of lots of ideas many of which the monolith would like to expire, it therefore acts as a collection point where they can watch what 'folks like us' are on to. It therefore figures that there will be detractors, unable to change their functional fixedness.

Keep going please, the future is fluid, its a non linear universe, and we are due a quantum tunnel lol.

[Swan]

Hi Adam,

I have been following this thread since the beginning, although in all honesty I don´t understand alot.

I am reminded of a friend, and her partner who is IMO a creative genius. My point is - when I ask him about his latest theory, I do not understand. But when I ask my friend to explain it to me, I understand perfectly. He is an inventor, she is a talented communicator.

I am hoping there might be somebody who grasps your work, who could act as an intermediary.

[mosquito]

Agree with all the above - please keep posting Adam, and maybe follow Dennis's advice.

[SnowyOwl]

OK, keep going, spill the beans. Give us all the info we need to produce working "free energy" devices. Right here, right now. Open source. The geniuses like Tesla did not understand the corrupt, self-serving nature of government in collusion with Big Energy. Sounds like you do understand this. Our only chance is someone putting the info on the Internet, open source.

Dennis

Salutations Dennis,

Back in the 80's at the UN I was destabilize by the stonewall of Power Forces of some Nations and the Narrow Path leading to tiny changes. A grain of sand put at the right place and at the right time can indeed jam all devices or achtechtonic systems.

I do have knowledge of many languages, both Occidental and Oriental and learning and studying these languages lead me to Ethymology, to the roots. Same goes with science my Friend, each fragments has his own language it a redux of Babel cf: Thoreau.

As an Humanitarian, a Public Health Officer, an Historian and a Communications ..... , as a Medicine Man and sometime Shaman I must share experience authenticity and I must be a vigil against any surge of speculation.

Here is how I teach sometimes;
The Micro World aka Science
The Mega World aka Monopoly

As Vortex Maths demonstrates Micro as Mega Realm is a endless close circuit and all confrontation to these are futile since over few centuries.

But what about the Meso Realm, that is the Realm of your own surrounding... That is the only Trail that leads to Perceptual, Pragmatic and Objective changes.

It took Tesla few decades to grasp this nuance, It is still not even acknowledge by European Americans. Ownership is a theft. Colonisation is a stealing act, PATENT is an GovernMental Admin process.

As for the Open Source option my Friend, b elieve me, there ain't no Open Source for Monopoly Rulers.

Transcendalists like those peoples who have humbly accept this reality are gems to be used personnaly and in one own surrounding.

The insatiable mind, the hungry ghost is always longing to adopt more and more concepts, notion, equations, etc...
But once you embrace pragmatism you progressively slide into the deductive MindSet.
Then a new Mind, Sky, unfold and a New ground work rise... and surprise, you come to realise that this new ground, this new earth, this new Noosphere as Thomas d'Aquin named, is the one left by our enlighted ancestors.

You certainly know the proverb that says, if you want to feed one person, do not spoon food him/her by giving a fish but teach them how to fish.

The same goes with the mental realm, we need to mature up, wake up those b rain systems, circuits that are idle and discover that within us reside the deductive Mind Faculties wich is not a scaffold.

Humility, gentleness is a norm in the Meso Realm, the thight rope on wicht many of us walk, if you fall on the left tiny parts of you will b e taking and put in a sort of film that can result in the conclusion of being a crazy erratic personna. If you fall on the right in the Mega Realm you are de facto a threat to monopolist and shall vanish,

The Trail is indeed naroow, the rope is tiny do no push please.

Snowy Owl

[SnowyOwl]

It's both Dennis. If I'm right, then anyone would be insane living with what I 'claim to be "so" ' .

It's well worth noting Tesla had several breakdowns. I wonder why.

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Radio Corporation America 1921, Bolinas:

Nikola Tesla, Steinmetz, Einstein standing in front of the Marconi Wireless Plant.


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Best,
A

Concerning Tesla breakdowns..

Seems his first breakdown (after his father agree to support him in his study) occurs in Bonn prior to his coming in US. His deductive Mind perceived a possible, a probable a certainity fact that from now on electrification of military industrial complex was unfolding.

Then in Alsace, France when he perceived that retention of information was unfolding

Then in Paris and London, Kelvin, the Royal Society, L'académie and wife and chidren fate

Edison b etrayal

Morgan b etrayal

US betrayal

Serbia betrayal

And all his Life the Pretentious arrogant scorning scientific betrayal

Snowy

[SnowyOwl]

Well isn’t this great?

Free energy explained and documented. The thing we’ve all been waiting for.


Except is not :(.

In my opinion no post of 7redorbes makes any sense or has any logic. An it’s sad because I really am interested in a new understanding of things but all his posts are a mix of ego, wishful thinking and a sick mix of physic laws and concepts and faulty conclusions…it’s just ugly.


Bang on , the truth is it can be taken further, the electron itself doesn't exist. The electron is visible because of a reaction with the observer. The North and south pole currents exist in-between all atoms. When we see an electron it's caused by the "photons" of observation from the viewing device or observers eye. Scientists have invented all sorts of names for this effect, including, action at a distance, phase variance, delta t, red shift, blue shift, it's some hilarious stuff - except for realising that the electron is a REACTION, not the EXISTENT thing it claims to be. In fact light itself requires more than the electron, but the fundamental basis of electricity - the north and south pole..

What’s with this atomic north and south anyway…? The existence of electrons has been proved in experiments over and over again. IT JUST MAKES SENSE.


After all we just proven inductively that all energy is magnetic at it's base. North and south poles, when we look the wave reacts with the poles producing an electron.

You never did prove anything, you only like big words . For the last time , north and south poles cannot exist in an atom made by protons , neutrons and electrons.


If this isn't proof that scientists are egotistical idiots that make it up as they go along via "inventive thinking" what the hell is?.

So scientists are egotistical idiots… I wonder what you are with your make belief physics , and your 60 quid book full of nonsense?

I’m sorry, I know I will be highly unpopular on this forum for posting in this manner . But threads like this hurt us more in the long run. Wishful thinking is not and will never be the answer.

Manas in Barath (Hindi), Mind in Brithish, Scientific Methodology is a rhetoric imbed in a tiny narrow path.

Having an Open Mind is not synonymous as having a fracture skull

Snowy

[ThePythonicCow]

Back in the 80's at the UN I was destabilize by the stonewall of Power Forces of some Nations and the Narrow Path leading to tiny changes.
I do not understand this sentence ... in particular the phrase "I was destabilize by the stonewall".

[7redorbs]

ATTENDANTS APPEAL


I , Adam Bull am writing to you to appeal to your dignity, your self respect, your common decency, your courtesy, your charity, and your heart, mind, body spirit and soul.

I am writing to you, at a time of grave misappropriations of planet earth's resources, and about a material deceit of humanity in the history of Radio. Please listen to this email carefully and heed the message it carries.

1) The maximum speed of a wave given by Nikola Tesla is faster than Einstein's speed of Light. It has been this way since Tesla invented radio in 1896.

2) Tesla gave the speed of his radio waves as pi / 2 * C which is equal to 1.57 times the speed of light.

3) Scientists today claim that 186,000 miles per hour, or 1.00 times the speed of light is the limit.

4) Tesla disagreed with this rigorously citing numerous experiments he had conducted showing cosmic rays to be moving at 50 times the speed of light from Antarus..

5) The speed that Tesla gives , if true completely disproves all of the modern science that exists today assuming the speed of light as a limit.

6) Free energy cannot ever exist according to the modern scientific age, simply because energy cannot travel faster than the speed of light.

7) Quantum Physics shows "instantaneous action at a distance" also known as "spooky action at a distance".

8) Einstein always had a problem with spooky action at a distance and instanteous action at a distance because it completely contradicts his theory of relativity, and the fundamental laws of conservation.

9) Tesla claimed he designed a communications and power transfer system that could transfer data or power accross the universe completely REGARDLESS OF DISTANCE, that is, the device had no approximate speed limit.

10) The advancements of Tesla claimed that he had overcome the theory and law of conservation, and had discovered a way to create a perpetual motion device.

11) The advancements of Edward Leedskalnin in his numerous books shows the same. And even calls the accomplishment "perpetual power" from the "perpetual motion holder".

12) A basic electromagnet I have here curves light and turns electrons around 180 degree's completely contrary to the Hertz Wave 1.0C speed of light theory and the theory of conservation.

13) Radio Corporation America tookover MArconi in 1917, and replaced the faster than light system with the inferior Hertzian speed of light Einstein system we see today.

14) Scientists, reluctant to accept the truth of history and the obviously cemented patents and descriptions, and nyt publications of nikola tesla on "the True wireless" continue to refuse the possibility of faster than light waves regardless.

15) Scientists will continue to refuse to accept this basic truth, irregardless that a working faster than light wave system, being the most advanced and the first radio system ever to exist, was present and accounted for in Bolinas California, at Marconi wireless and transmitted at 1.57C for 4 years between 1914-1917, and this cannot be taken away from humanity or from history, but it can and has been deleted.

16) DO not forget this. Or the future and the truth will die with me and people like Eric Dollard.

Time is short. This is part 1 of a 2 part email explaining how to generate perpetual motion and overunity effects including the synthesis of electricity, the isolation of cosmic rays to HALT radioactivity of radium INSTANTLY, and the isolation of dense matter from the cosmic rays preventing the equal and opposite gravity force from radiating from the earth.

These 2 emails will form a basis for a new theory of gravity as an EFFECT caused by external things, and NOT caused by the MASS of the earth.

Quite contrarily, the mass produces the equal and opposite effect of gravity, when the earth centre mass is hit by an equal and opposite cosmic force, which causes it's equal and opposite north and south pole magnets to be released in all directions, which attract about equally the electrons and protons of all atomic things.

Repeat, gravity is not a cause, it is an effect.

Repeat, radioactivity is not caused by unstable elements like radum. The radium will cease to be radioactive altogether when sufficiently shielded from the cosmic rays.

This proves that the scientists are only working with one sided instruments, equipment, models, conceptions and equations, and are negating 1/2 of the forces responsible for all things.

Memorandum : They are still looking for where this extra energy comes from.

And they also are looking for the scientific reason why the negatively charged electron seems to perpetually orbit around the positively charged proton and neutrally charged neutron. They are still trying to explain it, regardless that perpetual motion is outlawed as a crime in the scientific theory, and regardless to the fact that they fail to account it , the scientists of today can be seen as nothing less than true inexplicable fallacies that the world will one day see.

And that is the end of the first part.

Best Wishes,
Adam Bull

[Tesseract]

7RedOrbs, the ploy of trying to discredit anyone who disagrees with you by demanding that they explain the dynamics of an atom is inherently ludicrous and will not get you anywhere. I critically addressed a number of specific points to do with your writings here (none of them directly addressed by you), at no point did I claim or lead anyone to infer that I possess a full working model of atoms, molecules or sub atomic particles. I put it to the readers of this thread; at what point did I make any claim to have this knowledge?

On the other hand, you, 7RedOrbs, have made several high level claims including that you discovered electron spin (if I may paraphrase), that you have a high temperature liquid superconductor (that you have yet to disclose to us the composition of), and that you proved gravito-electro coupling (with a metal ruler and a table no less). Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, and rational explanation. The onus is on you, 7RedOrbs, to do the explaining because you are the one making the claims here.


This infantile mantra of yours that anyone who can not give you a full working theory of an electron orbiting a nucleus is somehow invalid as a scientist, investigator or critic is blaringly irrational. If you want a hand-waving argument (which seems to be your own preferred style) you will find plenty online, if you want more explicit arguments I suggest you turn to the quantum chemistry and physics literature.

Let me tell about my own preferred course of action following the completion of a successful experiment in my own little field and the development of an accompanying theory. I write up my results, as clearly as possible. I double check my facts and my reasoning as best as I can. Then, I send a manuscript to the appropriate journal for peer review and, hopefully, publication. If fate has it that my work is rejected because my arguments are poor, my writing too unclear, or my experimentation too incomplete, then I try to address those shortcomings and re-submit the manuscript. What I do not do is launch hysterical demands and accusations at the reviewers that have nothing to do with the shortcomings of my own work.

For the record, I do not enjoy the role of critic very much. I only take that role here because I feel that it could be in the interests of people reading this thread. If, after my efforts, people still want to purchase your book and believe your every word – so be it. I can’t guarantee that I will devote much more time to this thread, as I feel that people’s efforts here to promote rationality have all the chance of a cinder in snow.

[7redorbs]

No tesseract. Simply explain to us why the electron remains in perpetual motion. This is hardly "explaining the dynamics of the atom". What is the maximum speed of an electron? Another simple question.

In any case as I have asserted, the electron is a non existent invention. Nobody has ever seen one before. Yet most of our technology is using them. Do you not see the problem?

The science backs up what I am saying about the electron being un-observable - Heisenberg's uncertainty principle predicts it to be inherently un-observable. Indeed, an electron has never been observed, Scientific fact. What causes the negative charge to orbit perpetually? We use it to power all our technology - it's kind of important.

It's a simple question. Given than perpetual motion doesn't exist according to your mantra, there has to be a reason behind the electron perpetually spinning. Do you know what it is? For anything to be in perpetual motion it requires energy to do it,

I think you need to be able to explain why the electron has perpetual motion before using a theory that is intrinsically unable to explain the perpetual motion of electrons as a way to "disprove" 100 years of radio history.

As I have said for 4 years the marconi plant had 1.57C waves in use. They were non hertzian. I.e. most likely something you have never even heard of nor worked with. Am I correct in assuming?

The waves employed, were also non transverse hertzian type waves. This is a historical and scientific fact. The patents prove it. Perhaps If I give you the exact patent numbers you will cease your unfounded remarks? I shouldn't have to though. As I set out below, the science history speaks for itself.

Faster than light waves exist. Scientific Fact. Suppressed scientific fact. Whilst I would like to claim the "rationality" and "logic" of people like yourself helped the situation, I have to report that it hasn't. The world is still "in the dark" about it.



1) The maximum speed of a wave given by Nikola Tesla is faster than Einstein's speed of Light. It has been this way since Tesla invented radio.

2) Tesla gave the speed of his radio waves as pi / 2 * C which is equal to 1.57 times the speed of light. That's about 292,000 miles per second.

3) Wheatstone, pretty important guy, designer of the wheatstone bridge gave the velocity of the electrostatic discharge as 292,000 miles per second.


Problem? No these are scientific facts - Preserved in history. Most of the Aerial Ground Structure of the Marconi plant is intact. It's not like you can't go there and see it if you don't believe that 1.57 C waves were in use for 4 years until the military and government R.C.A project took over Marconi. This is more than a basic criminal conspiracy, it is a scientific history that is hard to ignore. That is what you are continuing to do if you fail to remedy these facts. Indeed, the onus is not on me at all. I have explained it several times in different ways in varying levels of depth and clarity. All on deaf ears I am afraid.

May people be the judge.

“When others asked the truth of me, I was convinced it was not the truth they wanted, but an illusion they could bear to live with.” ― Anaïs Nin

Best Wishes,
Adam


Footnote Memorandum :

"all of my investigations seem to point to the conclusions that they are small particles, each carrying so small a charge that we are jutsified in calling them n eutrons. They move with great velocity, exceeding that of light" - Nikola Tesla July 10, 1932

With Einstein’s universal speed limit in a jumble after CERN did what it does best, it appears Nikola Telsa could have saved the international science organisation some trouble. It’s a well-known fact the Serbian engineer was way ahead of his time. But close to 80 years? That’s quite a prediction.
No High-Speed Limit, Says Tesla *

(Following is a summary of the referenced article.)

Dr. Nikola Tesla asserted in an interview with Hugo Gernsback that speeds greater than that of light, which are considered impossible by the Einstein theory of relativity, have been produced.

Stating that the Einstein theory is erroneous in many respects, Dr. Tesla stated as early as 1900, in his patent 787,412, that the current of his radiopower transmitter passed over the surface of the earth with a speed of 292,830 miles a second. According to the Einstein theory, the highest possible speed is 186,300 miles a second.

Tesla indicated knowledge of speeds several times greater than light, and had apparatus designed to project so-called electrons with a speed equal to twice that of light.

Tesla disagreed with the part of the Einstein theory which states that the mass of an object increases with its speed. The mass of a body is unalterable, contended Dr. Tesla, According to the article, "otherwise energy could be produced from nothing, since the kinetic energy acquired in the fall of a body would be greater than that necessary to lift it at a small velocity."

[Tesseract]

I put it to the readers of this thread; at what point did I say perpetual motion does not exist?

And regarding charge, and mass? Should we refuse the opportunity to inquire upon electrostatics, inertia, gravity simply because we lack a perfect understanding of exactly what a particle is? And, how does any of this abrogate from yourself the responsibility to explain your own claims?

[7redorbs]

19943

The copenhagen interpretation was created during this conference. Until this time on earth never had so many leading physicists been together.

Einstein is looking glum because he has lost the argument. Victory goes to Neils Bohr,. Heisenberg won a victory that day too. His Quantum Wave function and uncertainty principle resulted in the scientific model of spooky action at a distance.

Einstein mainly had a problem with it because it meant that things could travel not just faster than his relativity's speed of light, but regardless to it, in fact at infinite speeds. Instant speeds. As asserted, scientifically in the Copenhagen principle. Einstein looks rather gloomy here, because after attempting all day to discredit the work of Heisenberg and Bohr, he failed. This was when quantum physics was born.

Einstein would die "fighting relentlessly" the faster than light force.

It's still taking a long time to filter through. The speed of light is not a limit. As established by Tesla, Wheatstone and Dollard, and as expressed in the Copenhagen Principle. The whole conception of the atom changed during this conference. Relativity was trumped. Copenhagen predicts action at a distance. That is - instant interaction between entangled particles. Or rather, particles that effect each other REGARDLESS of distance, just as Tesla said his system was capable.

That is - faster than light, in fact, infinitely faster than light.

Again, all established science i'm afraid, and you are wrong. Very wrong. Faster than light is a reality, long since passed as a theoretical force.

What I'm suggesting is not new to science. Ignorance though, runs rife.


Best,
Adam

[ThePythonicCow]

I don't think 7redorbs is listening to us, Tesseract, except to provoke recitation of his points.

In my opinion, this is not a fruitful discussion. Until 7redorbs demonstrates more willingness and ability to listen to, learn from, and interact with the excellent advice given to him by several members above, I recommend that we focus our energies elsewhere, at least so far as this thread is concerned.

[7redorbs]

Paul, you and other "so called" scientists ignorance frankly is amazing.

I present facts.

You hear nothing.


Shocking. I shall not bother again.


Best,
A

[ThePythonicCow]

This will be my last transmission. (June 30, 2012)

I shall not bother again. (Jan 5, 2013)
Fare thee well, Adam.

[7redorbs]

I would thank you if you meant it Paul.

FYI , I mean it this time.


Best,
A

[SnowyOwl]

Back in the 80's at the UN I was destabilize by the stonewall of Power Forces of some Nations and the Narrow Path leading to tiny changes.
I do not understand this sentence ... in particular the phrase "I was destabilize by the stonewall".

For an outsider like me then, witnessing that sec conceil rez where in fact dice alreasy cast was like falling off a pink cloud since the suggestion forwarded was humanitarian and not watsoever contrary to legitimate nat sec interest.

But there was, there is and certainly will b e always a solution despite stonewalling, a tiny one yes b ut it take a tiny snowball to create down in the valley a huge snowball when it all started at the Zénith of a resolution

Snowy

[Dennis Leahy]

I would thank you if you meant it Paul.

FYI , I mean it this time.


Best,
A
If you do, Adam, it was your failure.

A stand-up comedian gets heckled - they don't quit.

Someone poking sharp sticks into orthodox science is heckled - they don't quit.

I'm glad Tesla didn't quit. I'll bet he got a few wedgies in his day.

OK, so Einstein was wrong. The speed of light was not the maximum speed. Great. We have one building block. Don't expect me to be able to see the tower of blocks you are envisioning. Your next step is to add one more block - probably another foundational block.

Your move. Quit, or ignore being heckled and get on with it.

Dennis

[Flash]

that is sad. This is the first time i read that thread, and although Adam's concepts were rehashed in quite a few posts, the basic concepts seemed interesting. What he is asking us is to wipe out everything we know and start thinking differently. My point would be, why not trying it? Discoveries often comes from out of the box thinking.

As Bill said, I do not understand what Adams says either, furthermore having no training in these fields, but as Bill said, those that did back engineering of aliens ships had to completely changed what they knew of physics. And my dad was saying something similar about magnetism and magnetic fields when I was young, but I could not follow him at the time and other's would say, well, not great things about his calculations and theories, not understanding (my mom amongst others), even if he nearly got killed for it (he is now deceased, but not from his pet work).

I would have asked however to Adams to give us his calculations, put the blackboard on the posts and get few of our geniuses in this forum revised numbers and calculations. Up to now, Adams had just given the basic premises, nothing more. Adams wanted us to believe before working on it, with us. Even if the calculations were wrong, it may give and create ideas and new solutions. And if they were right, well, we could go further.

Adams, you have the chance of a lifetime to work on your calculations with a group of open minded people. For this, you must want to collaborate too. And if not, well, we may all have missed an opportunity.

[SnowyOwl]

Tesseract, Paul and Dennis... Salutations

I agree with you Dennis when you say;


A stand-up comedian gets heckled - they don't quit.

Someone poking sharp sticks into orthodox science is heckled - they don't quit.

I'm glad Tesla didn't quit.

One an event,
Twice a Pattern,
Thrice a program...

You could at least let him post his second installment before screeching like vultures.

Ain't being civil mean letting the ''Other'' express itself if decency prevails in his statements ?

Snowy

[Flash]

7RedOrbs, the ploy of trying to discredit anyone who disagrees with you by demanding that they explain the dynamics of an atom is inherently ludicrous and will not get you anywhere. I critically addressed a number of specific points to do with your writings here (none of them directly addressed by you), at no point did I claim or lead anyone to infer that I possess a full working model of atoms, molecules or sub atomic particles. I put it to the readers of this thread; at what point did I make any claim to have this knowledge?

On the other hand, you, 7RedOrbs, have made several high level claims including that you discovered electron spin (if I may paraphrase), that you have a high temperature liquid superconductor (that you have yet to disclose to us the composition of), and that you proved gravito-electro coupling (with a metal ruler and a table no less). Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, and rational explanation. The onus is on you, 7RedOrbs, to do the explaining because you are the one making the claims here.


This infantile mantra of yours that anyone who can not give you a full working theory of an electron orbiting a nucleus is somehow invalid as a scientist, investigator or critic is blaringly irrational. If you want a hand-waving argument (which seems to be your own preferred style) you will find plenty online, if you want more explicit arguments I suggest you turn to the quantum chemistry and physics literature.

Let me tell about my own preferred course of action following the completion of a successful experiment in my own little field and the development of an accompanying theory. I write up my results, as clearly as possible. I double check my facts and my reasoning as best as I can. Then, I send a manuscript to the appropriate journal for peer review and, hopefully, publication. If fate has it that my work is rejected because my arguments are poor, my writing too unclear, or my experimentation too incomplete, then I try to address those shortcomings and re-submit the manuscript. What I do not do is launch hysterical demands and accusations at the reviewers that have nothing to do with the shortcomings of my own work.

For the record, I do not enjoy the role of critic very much. I only take that role here because I feel that it could be in the interests of people reading this thread. If, after my efforts, people still want to purchase your book and believe your every word – so be it. I can’t guarantee that I will devote much more time to this thread, as I feel that people’s efforts here to promote rationality have all the chance of a cinder in snow.

Adams is not in a university Tesseract,he is on a forum. He probably has no salary, zilt, nothing, for what he is trying to do, contrarily to you, being able to get peers review and be published in science journals while being paid for it. Let the guy go a bit further, give some calculations, compare with Tesla and pursue on it and we will see.

I am pretty sure your rational mind could be of great use afterward.

There is pattern creative people and creative teams do follow not to kill ideas right from the start: 1. Dream (the stage we are at presently in this thread) the ideas, 2. See if it is feasible or doable (organise), 3. Criticise. If you start criticising in the dream phase, you klll all new ideas. You are asking Adam to be at the "criticise" phase right from the start (which peers review is).


Edit: I may not be fair here, even if creative work is enhance with the 3 steps. I have heard often PhD say that they were right, peer review was fine, etc etc when I know very well how the academic world works.

Furthermore, I have seen PhDs in engineering say "I know how to handle human behavior, I am a PhD". So, I may have transfered old frustrations on your back Tesseract, for which I am sorry. I am however keeping the post because the creative process is important.

[7redorbs]

This I provide for the kind people who responded with contributory correspondence to the established scientific facts that have been provided entirely vindicating the faster than light wave I have continuously stipulated throughout this thread. That is - this is for those that chose to challenge their own ignorance and preconceptions before judging or accusing another of it.

"Third. The most essential requirement is however, that irrespective of frequency the wave or wave-train should continue for a certain interval of time, which I have estimated to be not less than one-twelfth or probably 0.08484 of a second and which is taken in passing to and returning from the region diametrically opposite the pole over the earth's surface with a mean velocity of about four hundred and seventy-one thousand two hundred and forty kilometers per second.(292,815 miles per second or 1.57 the speed of light)" Nikola Tesla, US GOV Patent number 787412

Patent number: 787412
Filing date: May 16, 1900
Issue date: Apr 18, 1905




It is as I have said all along regardless of what the hecklers have had to say in their erroneous and largely offensive and disrespectful postings.

Contrary to popular relief, I am making no profit out of this, I gave up a promising career in defense to do it. I feel no obligation to continue to punish myself and clearly the minds of the ignorant many as some mere curiosity. I generally wanted to change the world.

For those interested the man whose name I forget, who transcribed all of the trial court proceedings of Tesla's faster than light waves records that exactly the same thing that has occurred on this thread, occurred once before there in court. Upon repeated and repeated citing of experiments that shown non hertzian non transverse electromagnetic waves traveling faster than the speed of light, they were ignored.

This is of course some many years before the Copenhagen conference and the realisation of Quantum Physics, faster than light particle entanglement and a foundation of Physics that requires instaneous action at a distance, or infinite velocity particles to exist. Tesla indeed was ahead of his time. And unfortunately still appears to be.

I am sorry but I am reluctant to offer more. Truth stares you in the face, and I have, contrary to the claim provided quite a considerable amount of historic and scientific evidence that fully vindicates the basic assertions that have been presented,

"the most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of doubt, what is laid before him" - Leo Tolstoy

This is proof I'm not lying, or making this up. What more is there to say?

Best,
A

[ThePythonicCow]

those that did back engineering of aliens ships had to completely changed what they knew of physics.
Yes - completely changing what we know of conventional physics is required.

I am convinced that the disconnect seen here was not due to a reluctance to change physics.

[Flash]

Ok Adams, now the meat please. Finish with history, give us what you discovered, the meat please. With your calculations. Your designs. So that some can work on it here. The little video you posted must have had some calculations in it no???

[ThePythonicCow]

There is pattern creative people and creative teams do follow not to kill ideas right from the start
I have been a party to creative work (involving multiprocessor software, not physics) from the late 1970's to the early 2000's.

Once one begins to discuss with others, and cooperatively flesh out one's insights and instincts, then some ways of participating work better than others.

I found this true regardless of whether I was working on "big budget" projects, or donating time to open source projects.

This forum has shown itself to be open to understanding and discussing physics and other topics, in fundamentally different ways than current conventional teachings.

[ThePythonicCow]

SnowyOwl, Flash, Dennis, ...

7redorbs seems stuck in a loop, thinking that our inability to accept his thinking is due to our close mindedness. He is confusing our asking with our rejection of his thought, before he has offered it. Some of us here actually do have a fair background in both conventional and alternative math, science and physics and are open to serious discussions in such.

This thread continues to be a waste of our time, as currently constituted.

[SnowyOwl]

As a First Nation, Ojibwa... Eagle as Snowy Owls Eyes have noticed a long yime ago that bird come and get the berries, the elderberries prior to the rainy season... then as soon as the cold wind last enough to freeze the ground we witness deers coming eating the bark of the elderberries tree.

More than a millenium later a microscope identify a lot of Polyphenols in the elderberries.

As we made elderberries slowly heat in water against cold and virus the white doc says, now it is ok to tale this mixture since polyphenols does indeed stop viruses replication.

No sketch is needed in that example, as in a lot of other ''Realms''.
Snowy Owl

[Simonm]

Please don't stop posting Adam. I find this fascinating, unfortunately out of my depth. I have learnt so much from this thread and it would be a real shame were it to end prematurely. If your theories are provable, then please do so to stop those that would attack deter you from posting. Answer your critics with the facts you claim to have. Prove them wrong.

I'd truly hate this to be all hot air or disinfo.

Regards

Simon.

[Simonm]

SnowyOwl, Flash, Dennis, ...

7redorbs seems stuck in a loop, thinking that our inability to accept his thinking is due to our close mindedness. He is confusing our asking with our rejection of his thought, before he has offered it. Some of us here actually do have a fair background in both conventional and alternative math, science and physics and are open to serious discussions in such.

This thread continues to be a waste of our time, as currently constituted.

Yet yourself and others are unable to prove what Adam claims to be fact and namecall / deride his inability to prove his theories. Neither side is able to prove to the great unwashed their respective "facts"

As I have asked Adam to prove to us his ideas, I also ask you and others of knowledge to do the same. Prove him wrong. Lets not allow ths thread to degenerate to a point it becomes locked. such a fascinating subject should not be allowed to degenerate to a ridiculous point of no return!!

[ThePythonicCow]

Yet yourself and others are unable to prove what Adam claims to be fact and namecall / deride his inability to prove his theories. Neither side is able to prove to the great unwashed their respective "facts"

As I have asked Adam to prove to us his ideas, I also ask you and others of knowledge to do the same. Prove him wrong. Lets not allow ths thread to degenerate to a point it becomes locked. such a fascinating subject should not be allowed to degenerate to a ridiculous point of no return!!

The subject may be fascinating, but this thread has made no useful contribution to our understanding of the subject. Moreover I claim this is so not because we're too ignorant or close minded (or too well educated in and locked into conventional physics), but rather because 7redorbs has not learned a manner of presentation and discussion which supports shared gains in understanding.

Apparently you are confusing what 7redorbs has been doing with presenting theory, facts or experimental results in a manner amenable to discussion, agreement or refutation, and then berating others, myself in particular, for not engaging with him in such. He hasn't been doing so.

As with the infamous case of Russell's Teapot (http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Russell%27s_Teapot), 7redorbs has not provided enough coherent substance to be falsifiable, outside of the relatively non-controversial slams of conventional physics. Rather he's mixed (a) annoyance at our alleged closed mindedness, (b) various plausible observations of flaws in conventional physics (which flaws I don't dispute) and (c) claims to theory or experiment supporting a better physics, which he has not developed sufficiently to enable any useful discussion or understanding by others.

Unfortunately, despite expending considerable energy in an apparent effort to advance our shared understanding, 7redorbs has not been able to do so in his present manner of participating. This is unfortunate, as his energy, interest, and persistence in this important topic is obviously very substantial.

We do develop our ideas on this forum, in the context of other more productive threads.

[Swan]

Hi Adam,

I understood your post #129. Please continue simplifying in the same manner.

[Simonm]

Yet yourself and others are unable to prove what Adam claims to be fact and namecall / deride his inability to prove his theories. Neither side is able to prove to the great unwashed their respective "facts"

As I have asked Adam to prove to us his ideas, I also ask you and others of knowledge to do the same. Prove him wrong. Lets not allow ths thread to degenerate to a point it becomes locked. such a fascinating subject should not be allowed to degenerate to a ridiculous point of no return!!

The subject may be fascinating, but this thread has made no useful contribution to our understanding of the subject. Moreover I claim this is so not because we're too ignorant or close minded (or too well educated in and locked into conventional physics), but rather because 7redorbs has not learned a manner of presentation and discussion which supports shared gains in understanding.

Apparently you are confusing what 7redorbs has been doing with presenting theory, facts or experimental results in a manner amenable to discussion, agreement or refutation, and then berating others, myself in particular, for not engaging with him in such. He hasn't been doing so.

As with the infamous case of Russell's Teapot (http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Russell%27s_Teapot), 7redorbs has not provided enough coherent substance to be falsifiable, outside of the relatively non-controversial slams of conventional physics. Rather he's mixed (a) annoyance at our alleged closed mindedness, (b) various plausible observations of flaws in conventional physics (which flaws I don't dispute) and (c) claims to theory or experiment supporting a better physics, which he has not developed sufficiently to enable any useful discussion or understanding by others.

Unfortunately, despite expending considerable energy in an apparent effort to advance our shared understanding, 7redorbs has not been able to do so in his present manner of participating. This is unfortunate, as his energy, interest, and persistence in this important topic is obviously very substantial.

We do develop our ideas on this forum, in the context of other more productive threads.

which is why I have asked for both sides to prove their own theories, which NEITHER have done so far. Far from berating "sides" I am asking for both parties to post "proof" of their theories other than just "theories". Disprove one another. All I see from this thread is 7Redorbs providing data and then others haranguing him for being closed minded. Of the figures and data he has produced I see no counter argument, corroborated by further data dis-proving what 7Redorb provides initially.

[ThePythonicCow]

which is why I have asked for both sides to prove their own theories, which NEITHER have done so far. Far from berating "sides" I am asking for both parties to post "proof" of their theories other than just "theories". Disprove one another.
I don't have a coherent theory of physics amenable to proof or disproof. I can't tell whether 7redorbs has such or not.


All I see from this thread is 7Redorbs providing data and then others haranguing him for being closed minded. Of the figures and data he has produced I see no counter argument, corroborated by further data dis-proving what 7Redorb provides initially.
The haranguing for being closed minded is by 7redorbs, of those of us who asked him to explain his results.

Of the facts and data he has produced, some of it is historical (such as repression of Tesla) or noticing flaws in conventional physics, neither of which I am trying to dispute. I don't know if he's right in these particular facts and data, but they sound plausible enough and I'm willing to take them as given, for the sake of discussion.

The rest of the facts and data he has produced are so incomplete as to be unfalsifiable, in the manner of Russell's Teapot (see link, previous post.)

[Simonm]

So Paul, to what extent do you want 7Redorbs to "explain himself?" I have no physics degree and, until reading about tesla's work had no idea of such things. However, I found Adam's description intriguing, hence me asking him for further proof of his work. If he expanded, would you have enough understanding to be able to dissect his work in methodical manner?

From your last post it appears evident you would be as blind as I in that respect?

[ThePythonicCow]

So Paul, to what extent do you want 7Redorbs to "explain himself?" I have no physics degree and, until reading about tesla's work had no idea of such things. However, I found Adam's description intriguing, hence me asking him for further proof of his work. If he expanded, would you have enough understanding to be able to dissect his work in methodical manner?

From your last post it appears evident you would be as blind as I in that respect?
My undergraduate studies were in math (my major) and physics, and I have read in various physics subjects since then, both "conventional" and "alternative." Physics has been one of my several interests while on this forum the last couple of years. While I certainly don't understand all the physics presented here (hi, Carmody :)), I like to think I have a pretty good idea whether someone is presenting material in a manner conducive to fruitful discussion amongst those who are ready to understand that particular material.

[eaglespirit]

People, with all due respect...OPEN Your Spiritual Hearts and Processes with Higher Intent when communicating, dissecting, questioning.
It can be done, even by the most staunch 'left-brain' activists here...for this is a Spiritual Matter that has to be brought to Life by Us and integrated Consciously into this 'sick and stuck' scientific process...it will put us over the edge with all of this in unimaginable ways.
......

7) Quantum Physics shows "instantaneous action at a distance" also known as "spooky action at a distance".

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?46312-Tap-on-Tap-off-the-tapper.&p=611451&viewfull=1#post611451

[Hervé]

The basic stumbling block here is a lack of definitions for the terms used by Adam since it seems he uses terms from the "conventional" physics to describe the "new" physics which confuses everybody...

Things haven't improved much since this thread: Modern Electrical Systems - Crimes against Man, THE Sabbath of the New Science (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?49052-Modern-Electrical-Systems-Crimes-against-Man-THE-Sabbath-of-the-New-Science)

[Simonm]

So Paul, to what extent do you want 7Redorbs to "explain himself?" I have no physics degree and, until reading about tesla's work had no idea of such things. However, I found Adam's description intriguing, hence me asking him for further proof of his work. If he expanded, would you have enough understanding to be able to dissect his work in methodical manner?

From your last post it appears evident you would be as blind as I in that respect?
My undergraduate studies were in math (my major) and physics, and I have read in various physics subjects since then, both "conventional" and "alternative." Physics has been one of my several interests while on this forum the last couple of years. While I certainly don't understand all the physics presented here (hi, Carmody :)), I like to think I have a pretty good idea whether someone is presenting material in a manner conducive to fruitful discussion amongst those who do are ready to understand that particular material.

thats me told then. ;)

[eaglespirit]

I am going to send some pm's out to people I am close to here...it really is time to get together some how and put these things to work...even if it is a lone cabin in the woods right now. I really feel if we put this to work in a simple household set up we will not be hindered by those people and things that have stopped many in their tracks. We are on the verge of a big breakthrough.
Simply showing how a small home can be run with this while other 'advanced' things are being freed up all around us in every facet of our lives as these changes occur more rapidly now will be a powerful catalyst.
That is what we are here for.

And I am grateful for all of you here trying so hard to do something here at Avalon in each and all of those 'facets' of life that we need to change, pronto!

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?49052-Modern-Electrical-Systems-Crimes-against-Man-THE-Sabbath-of-the-New-Science&p=611712&viewfull=1#post611712

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edited to add current reply:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30405-Here-and-Now...What-s-Happening&p=611724&viewfull=1#post611724

[Flash]

Well, in my life, I have seen designs, calculations, graphs, mini demos, name it, based of things similar to which Adams is talking about, with a dad that had not finish primary school. Yet, he was able to explain, demonstrate, design, calculate, make samples and show it. A shame my mom has thrown them 20 years ago. He was very bright (showing me higher maths when I was at College). I know Adams has such if he worked as much as he says he did.

I do expect something similar, due to this background of mine, that shows the work in a comprehensible manner, even if not standard whatsoever. At least, comprehensible for great minds. Because, at the time, I would not comprehend either. But test us, we understand much more than you can imagine Adams.

[observer]

So Paul, to what extent do you want 7Redorbs to "explain himself?" I have no physics degree and, until reading about tesla's work had no idea of such things. However, I found Adam's description intriguing, hence me asking him for further proof of his work. If he expanded, would you have enough understanding to be able to dissect his work in methodical manner?

From your last post it appears evident you would be as blind as I in that respect?
My undergraduate studies were in math (my major) and physics, and I have read in various physics subjects since then, both "conventional" and "alternative." Physics has been one of my several interests while on this forum the last couple of years. While I certainly don't understand all the physics presented here (hi, Carmody :)), I like to think I have a pretty good idea whether someone is presenting material in a manner conducive to fruitful discussion amongst those who do are ready to understand that particular material.

With regard to Paul's observation regarding "fruitful discussions", from my earliest participation in this thread (comments #s 19 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?46312-Tap-on-Tap-off-the-tapper.&p=505668&viewfull=1#post505668), 31 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?46312-Tap-on-Tap-off-the-tapper.&p=507114&viewfull=1#post507114), 38 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?46312-Tap-on-Tap-off-the-tapper.&p=508048&viewfull=1#post508048), 46 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?46312-Tap-on-Tap-off-the-tapper.&p=508816&viewfull=1#post508816), & 59 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?46312-Tap-on-Tap-off-the-tapper.&p=509692&viewfull=1#post509692)) up until now, I have regularly felt the OP was condescending in his replies. I've never been quite sure where 7redorbs is going with this course of study, therefore, I've kept quiet for some time.

I draw attention to my comment #38 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?46312-Tap-on-Tap-off-the-tapper.&p=508048&viewfull=1#post508048) to reiterate a foundational understanding regarding the electromagnetic nature of the universe as a necessary building block to understanding:




[....snip]

I'll end this coverage here in hopes it sparks some discussion. Let better minds input more action-thoughts. I expect my constitution is too integrative and builder-creative. Please someone, present this anew, a new breath, a new spark.

I'm not quite sure if this will help, wavydome, but if you have looked at the video I offered from Dr. Tom Bearden in comment #31, and, of course, what 7redorbs said in his OP, and combine that understanding with the knowledge of cutting edge plasma physics, it might give you a grasps of the foundational physics involved in this Tesla technology.

"THUNDERBOLTS OF THE GODS"
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4773590301316220374&ei=kPM1SfiSDIruqAKNrdWkCQ&q=thunderbolts+of+the+gods+#

I realize this is a long research project, but there is something yet to be discovered in combining all this knowledge into one cohesive scientific understanding.

I would also recommend an extremely relevant workshop series of five videos on the holographic nature of our universe:

http://www.holographicuniverseworkshops.com/

Part 1: http://www.holographicuniverseworkshops.com/partone.html
Part 2: http://www.holographicuniverseworkshops.com/parttwo.html
Part 3: http://www.holographicuniverseworkshops.com/partthree.html
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The videos linked in this comment (including the earlier #38 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?46312-Tap-on-Tap-off-the-tapper.&p=508048&viewfull=1#post508048) comment) are foundational in understanding the mechanisms associated to the function of [I]'this particular reality'. The links are cutting-edge physics. Without these foundational understands it is impossible to speculate on what Tesla was doing.

[Hervé]

All right,

Let's start the dismantling of "Einsteinian," "conventional" physics and his "constant" "C"

Some smart ass in the 50s asked that question about that speed of "light" as a "constant": "Which light?"

To understand that question and the answer that gets all Einsteinian mathematics tumbling down, check this out:

C in E=MC^2 is supposed to be a constant... which it isn't except arbitrarily.

Now, as far as FTL (Faster Than Light) goes, well it should have been known ever since this thing was discovered:



http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=10026&d=1316792376&thumb=1 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=10026&d=1316792376)



That's called "refraction" of light through a prism. Therefore, per the computed laws of refraction:


http://projectavalon.net/forum4/images/misc/quote_icon.png Refraction

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/13/F%C3%A9nyt%C3%B6r%C3%A9s.jpg/220px-F%C3%A9nyt%C3%B6r%C3%A9s.jpg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:F%C3%A9nyt%C3%B6r%C3%A9s.jpg)http://bits.wikimedia.org/skins-1.17/common/images/magnify-clip.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:F%C3%A9nyt%C3%B6r%C3%A9s.jpg)
Light on air–plexi surface in this experiment mainly undergoes refraction (lower ray) and to a lesser extent reflection (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reflection_%28physics%29) (top ray).

Refraction is the change in direction of a wave (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wave) due to a change in its speed (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speed). This is most commonly observed when a wave passes from one medium (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optical_medium) to another at any angle other than 90° or 0°. Refraction of light (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light) is the most commonly observed phenomenon, but any type of wave can refract when it interacts with a medium, for example when sound waves (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sound_wave) pass from one medium into another or when water waves move into water of a different depth. Refraction is described by Snell's law (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snell%27s_law), which states that the angle of incidence (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angle_of_incidence) θ1 is related to the angle of refraction θ2 by
http://upload.wikimedia.org/math/2/0/a/20aa1e3d192ecb3164ac4f2095c86cd3.pngwhere v1 and v2 are the wave velocities in the respective media, and n1 and n2 the refractive indices (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refractive_index). [...]


From the prism experiment, one can therefore deduce that violet and red are travelling at different speed... violet an UV being the "fastest" in that spectrum.

Therefore anything having a higher frequency/speed than UV is FTL... by definition!

So, I guess that a neutrino would go straight through the base of the above prism. Yet it doesn't... goes right straight through in a straight line!



:dance:


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f5/Light_dispersion_conceptual_waves.gif


Reverse the above and you get that "white light" is a composite of different light wave lengths travelling at different speed. Hence the question "Which Light?" to be chosen as the constant for the speed of light?


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f1/EM_spectrum.svg/787px-EM_spectrum.svg.png

[Dennis Leahy]

I don't have a physics background, but I did get an A in high school physics.

Here's what I got out of this (so far):



The speed of light is not the fastest speed possible. (I'm not sure if this is presented as a useful construct/building block for the discussion, or if it presented to show that conventional physicists are stuck in a paradigm using the speed of light as the fastest possible theoretical speed - and any models that use that limitation are wrong.)
Electrons don't really exist as discrete entities (perhaps a better way to think about electrons is a form of plasma rather than discrete rotating particles)
A fixed magnet and fixed coil of copper can be made into an electrical generator. [OK, this didn't come from this thread, but Adam's prodding to think about the perpetual energy of the spinning electron (cloud? plasma?) made the following video more easily explainable to me (rather than moving the magnet, or the coil, as in a typical generator, the movement is happening at an atomic level in the electron-orbits of the copper and are moving the magnetic fields of the electron-plasma enough to excite the NSNSNSNSNSSN poles in the computer hard drive magnet used in the video. I'll post eaglespirit's post in the Here and Now thread so you can also read his words. The video itself is boring and too rough, but should make you think about how this arrangement can possibly produce electricity, since it does not have the spinning magnets or coil (rotor) of a typical generator:


Source: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30405-Here-and-Now...What-s-Happening&p=610953&viewfull=1#post610953

Adam, in the world of software development, it is accepted that the very worst possible candidate for the job of creating documentation and especially "help" files for the software is the lead programmer. Why? Because the lead programmer is immersed and fully aware of every nuance of the software - and cannot possibly look with a "fresh pair of eyes" that a "newbie" to the software will have. So, the job of creating "help" files is always given to someone else (in anything bigger than a one-man programming firm.)

As someone said a while ago, you need an assistant. You need a non-physicist (not even an amateur physicist) to explain your ideas. You need only explain the ideas to this one person, this one well-organized person capable of producing a simple text description (at least) and multimedia presentations (at best.) As Flash said, the history of where the ideas came from is interesting, but is dragging down the thread's promise of new (or hidden/forgotten) energy science.

The video you posted of your experiments is terribly boring and has no explanations whatsoever. Again, it is so obvious to you that you are forgetting to bring the viewer along on the ride. Are there coils wrapped around empty soda bottles, or are the bottles full of dilithium crystals? If there are coils, is the direction of the wrap an important detail? Gauge? Composition? What other components are there? Is there a big capacitor hidden in one of the bottles? I have this sense that you are trying really hard to show something really interesting, and that you do not realize that you are either not explaining it at all, or explaining it poorly. I think that is why you are getting raspberries from some folks. I'm being completely honest - not trying to hurt your feelings but trying to be helpful (and dammit, I wanna see if you really do have a breakthrough on the synthesis of this information!)

Dennis

[Flash]

I am going for one week, no internet access I think, but ski slopes yahou

So I will follow up when I am back,

Flash

[avid]

Oh thank goodness for Pink Floyd, that animated graphic is amazing - thank you Amzer Zo - passing it on to my scientific OH!!! :-)

[ThePythonicCow]

I am going for one week, no internet access I think, but ski slopes yahou
I pray you will not descend the ski slopes at anything approaching the speed of light; that would be way too dangerous :).

[ThePythonicCow]

Therefore anything having a higher frequency/speed than UV is FTL... by definition!
The constant "speed limit" in "conventional" physics (relativity) is the speed of light in a vacuum. Prisms are not vacuums, so light travels at various slower speeds through them, and across the prism-to-air boundary.

[sandy]

Hi Paul,

To be honest with you i do not like the way you are handling this thread and your sarcastic humor does nothing for you as a moderator and or a human being with compassion and empathy for your fellow human being.

I do not know Adam or have any concept of what he is attempting to inform us of but I check in with hopes one day someone will be able to decipher his knowledge into an everyday comprehension that the lay person can grasp, such as Dennis Suggested in his post. Until that time I see no need for put downs from anyone including Adam.

It will be sad if Adam has left for good because it will just be one more experience and example of intellectual bullying in my opinion and something not of value or befitting to such a wonderful forum as Avalon.

[ThePythonicCow]

To be honest with you i do not like the way you are handling this thread ...
You may be right, and I appreciate your stating your concerns.

So far, I don't think you're right. I don't know Adam (7redorbs), and have intended to comment on his manner of presenting his material here, not on Adam himself. If you noticed some places where I put down Adam himself, you're welcome to let me know.

It continues to be my present understanding of this situation that the manner of Adam's presenting his material here was seriously limiting his effort here, frustrating both him and us, and that furthermore he has been misjudging these limitations, thinking they are due primarily to the rest of us being "stuck in the mud" of conventional physics.

I see no way that might overcome these limitations that doesn't begin with calling them out, as plainly and directly as we are able.

[eaglespirit]

I have called Adam out with a pm...today is the first I saw of this whole thread.

If he has enough practical hands-on workable knowledge to help show us how to possibly/continually run a 5000 watt generator without fuel and power a home...the ways and means will be film documented and put out there. I(we) will do this for that reason alone....the credit going to no one and everyone....however Adam wishes to handle it.

It will be an important start, imho, understanding the possibilities are more or less endless...
but showing the practicality in real life in real time is so important now.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?46312-Tap-on-Tap-off-the-tapper.&p=611723&viewfull=1#post611723

[Hervé]

Therefore anything having a higher frequency/speed than UV is FTL... by definition!
The constant "speed limit" in "conventional" physics (relativity) is the speed of light in a vacuum. Prisms are not vacuums, so light travels at various slower speeds through them, and across the prism-to-air boundary.

Sorry, quoted the wrong post... corrected now.




Reverse the above and you get that "white light" is a composite of different light wave lengths travelling at different speed. Hence the question "Which Light?" to be chosen as the constant for the speed of light?


... remains true when reversed back to vacuum... right?

The prism only demonstrates that "white light" is made of different frequencies/wavelengths propagating at different speed whether in vacuum or refracting medium.

[ThePythonicCow]

The prism only demonstrates that "white light" is made of different frequencies/wavelengths propagating at different speed whether in vacuum or refracting medium.
Prisms cannot be constructed out of a vacuum and nothing more.

Placing a prism in a vacuum would (I suppose) allow splitting white light into various colors of light. That splitting occurs within the prism or (more likely I think) at the boundary between the prism and its surrounds. Once split, the various colors of light would then each proceed through the surrounding vacuum at the same speed, c, the speed of light in a vacuum.

[Hervé]

The prism only demonstrates that "white light" is made of different frequencies/wavelengths propagating at different speed whether in vacuum or refracting medium.
Prisms cannot be constructed out of a vacuum and nothing more.

Placing a prism in a vacuum would (I suppose) allow splitting white light into various colors of light. That splitting occurs within the prism or (more likely I think) at the boundary between the prism and its surrounds. Once split, the various colors of light would then each proceed through the surrounding vacuum at the same speed, c, the speed of light in a vacuum.

The splitting occurs BECAUSE white light is composed of various frequencies of light having inherent different propagating speed to start with. Otherwise there wouldn't be any diffraction via a prism but just white light in, white light out. The prism allows the decomposition of light into their different speeds/frequencies/wavelength. Hence, which light speed does one sets as the constant "C?" Red or violet?

[ThePythonicCow]

The splitting occurs BECAUSE white light is composed of various frequencies of light having inherent different propagating speed to start with. Otherwise there wouldn't be any difraction via a prism but just white light in, white light out. The prism allows the decompositon of light into their different speeds/frequencies. Hence, which light speed does one sets as the constant "C?" Red or violet?

In various mediums, yes, different frequencies of light have different velocities, and Snell's Law (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snell%27s_law) works, as you observed.

In a vacuum, all frequencies of light travel at the same speed.

The various speeds of light, of various frequencies (colors) in various media, are all less than the single constant speed of light in a vacuum. That speed of light in a vacuum is what we label 'C', and that speed is greater than all light speeds in any non-vacuum medium.

Newton's mechanics are a simplification of reality, providing a model quite useful and accurate over some wide range of circumstances, but not everything, everywhere, for all time ... not even close. Similary, the Relativistic model of light I am using above is a model, simplifying reality in a useful way, but a sufficient way for what we're discussing here.

[Hervé]

[...]

In a vacuum, all frequencies of light travel at the same speed.

[...]

That's where I disagree because... says who? On what experiment?

To me, white light in vacuum is still composed of different wavelength/frequencies of light traveling at their own different max-speed.

I guess a test of this could be designed with coherent, uni-wave light beams from lasers between red ones and blue ones; bounced back off the Moon or Mars :)

Conversely, if that statement were true, all laser lights in vacuum should be "white" or of the same color/frequency/wavelength... are they?

[Tesseract]

Red, violet, microwave, x-ray, radio - they all travel at the same speed unless you have a medium in which they interact non-equally.

[ThePythonicCow]

That's where I disagree because... says who? On what experiment?

To me, white light in vacuum is still composed of different wavelength/frequencies of light traveling at their own different max-speed.

If light from distant galaxies and quasars traveled at different speeds, depending on its color (frequency) then our view of those distant objects would be increasingly smeared, the further the object was from us. We don't see this.

We do see a "red shift" that seems to effect all frequencies in the electromagnetic spectrum, slowing them all down at great distance, either because distant objects are receding from us in an expanding universe, or because of some affect involving the "vacuum" between here and there. But this red shift is a lowering of frequency, lengthening of wave length, lowering of energy ... all the various frequencies from any single remote event arrive here on earth simultaneously.

If something from a galaxy far far away blows up "real good", we don't see the high frequency gamma rays before the indigo/violet colors, and those before the red/orange colors, ... There is no temporal smearing by color.

[Hervé]

[...]

If light from distant galaxies and quasars traveled at different speeds, depending on its color (frequency) then our view of those distant objects would be increasingly smeared, the further the object was from us. We don't see this.

We do see a "red shift" that seems to effect all frequencies in the electromagnetic spectrum, slowing them all down at great distance, either because distant objects are receding from us in an expanding universe, or because of some affect involving the "vacuum" between here and there. But this red shift is a lowering of frequency, lengthening of wave length, lowering of energy ... all the various frequencies from any single remote event arrive here on earth simultaneously.

If something from a galaxy far far away blows up "real good", we don't see the high frequency gamma rays before the indigo/violet colors, and those before the red/orange colors, ... There is no temporal smearing by color.

May be the "Doppler shift" as applied to light needs re-interpreting?

I am not sure if it's Laviolette of someone else who mentions "precursor waves" of distant events that have happened. I don't have the reference for it but, IIRC, such precursors have been recorded. If I am wrong in my recollection then I'll have to leave it at that.

[ThePythonicCow]

I am not sure if it's Laviolette of someone else who mentions "precursor waves" of distant events that have happened.
It was indeed Paul LaViolette. He anticipates that the superwave from a big explosion our galactic core would first arrive here as a gravity wave, followed perhaps a day later by the gamma (and other electromagnetic frequencies, aka light) burst.

He speculates that the December 26, 2004 Indonesian earthquake (magnitude 9.0) provided such an example of this, when a gamma ray burst hit earth about a day later. By this speculation, the quake itself was not caused by our earthly black ops guys blowing up nukes off the Indonesian island of Sumatra, but rather by a gravity wave that arrived ahead of the associated electromagnetic burst.

This is one of the reasons that I reminded us above that the Relativistic model of mass, gravity and light (electromagnetism) is but a model. In particular, it models gravity as a warp in the geometry of space-time, which rather begs the question of what "really" causes gravity, and presents what I presume is a rather over simplified model of gravity.

It would not surprise me if gravity waves (whatever they are) travel slightly faster than the speed of light, whether in a vacuum or in any media.

[ThePythonicCow]

It was indeed Paul LaViolette. He anticipates that the superwave from a big explosion our galactic core would first arrive here as a gravity wave, followed perhaps a day later by the gamma (and other electromagnetic frequencies, aka light) burst.

He speculates that the December 26, 2004 Indonesian earthquake (magnitude 9.0) provided such an example of this, when a gamma ray burst hit earth about a day later. By this speculation, the quake itself was not caused by our earthly black ops guys blowing up nukes off the Indonesian island of Sumatra, but rather by a gravity wave that arrived ahead of the associated electromagnetic burst.
As a result of LaViolette's speculations on this, if two or more massive (9.0+) earthquakes happen at the same time on this planet, I am seriously considering

Unplugging my main computer, disconnecting all wires from it, and going to one of my older, less valuable computers, and then
Making a toilet paper, rice and beans run to my local big box store.

A major gamma ray burst, as might come a day or two later by his speculations, could do major damage to the electrical grid and electrical equipment. Equipment encased in metal with no wires attached would have a better chance of surviving undamaged. If even that equipment gets taken out, then I will share my rice and beans with my neighbors, cooked over an outdoor fire, and filter water from the nearby pond for us, using my Berkey water filter.

[Hervé]

Following Paul LaViolette hypothesis of attributing a difference in time between the arrival of a gravity disturbance and the arrival of a gamma ray burst, and from the point of view of my approach in the above debate, then gravity can be considered a special case of electromagnetism of highest known frequency and shortest wavelength and therefore fastest speed in any medium (or non-medium -- would make sense in an "electric"/electromagnetic plasma universe) followed by gamma rays, then X-rays and then the visible portion of the electromagnetic spectrum... QED!

Hence, although the difference in propagation speed is infinitesimally small from one end of the visible spectrum to the other end, the question "Which light" to take as the constant "C" for the speed of light, stands. Which means that, to be observable with, say, supernovas, the event would have to be recorded at super high speed similar to the speed needed to catch a bullet coming out of an apple...

On the other hand, and still following LaViolette's hypothesis, it makes me wonder if these blue-shift galaxies would turn green then yellow one day? Or if the red-shift ones would start emitting microwaves or radio waves?

On another tangent, LaViolette hypothesis lends credence to Laura Knight's "Cs" claim that "It's all gravity" meaning that all other electro-magnetic phenomena are derived from gravity... weird! But would give some explanations for all these electromagnetic anomalies accompanying some UFO activities.

All right, enough speculations for today!

[eaglespirit]

Hi Adam...Wishing You Well and Thank You Again!

Could an 'upgrade/customizing' of this run a 5000 watt portable generator?

GEUyhhMEs7U

[ThePythonicCow]

Following Paul LaViolette hypothesis of attributing a difference in time between the arrival of a gravity disturbance and the arrival of a gamma ray burst, and from the point of view of my approach in the above debate, then gravity can be considered a special case of electromagnetism of highest known frequency and shortest wavelength and therefore fastest speed in any medium (or non-medium -- would make sense in an "electric"/electromagnetic plasma universe) followed by gamma rays, then X-rays and then the visible portion of the electromagnetic spectrum... QED!
Well, gosh dang. The Grand Unified Theory of Everything which physicists have sought for a century ... born right before our eyes ;).


On another tangent, LaViolette hypothesis lends credence to Laura Knight's "Cs" claim that "It's all gravity"
If by "Laura Knight" you refer to Laura Knight Jadczyk, then ... let's just say I value the physics work of LaViolette more than that of Laura Knight Jadczyk :).

[Gardener]

I have not finished reading this thread but I want to second what Sandy is saying here. I wish to include teser act in this as well even though he is not a moderator, but because he is assuming an arrogant stance which is not healthy for other posters in this and other threads.
We would all be forgiven if we wrongly thought that the pair of you Paul and Teser act are saboutaging the subject of FE deliberately.
Either way I will be watching.



Hi Paul,

To be honest with you i do not like the way you are handling this thread and your sarcastic humor does nothing for you as a moderator and or a human being with compassion and empathy for your fellow human being.

I do not know Adam or have any concept of what he is attempting to inform us of but I check in with hopes one day someone will be able to decipher his knowledge into an everyday comprehension that the lay person can grasp, such as Dennis Suggested in his post. Until that time I see no need for put downs from anyone including Adam.

It will be sad if Adam has left for good because it will just be one more experience and example of intellectual bullying in my opinion and something not of value or befitting to such a wonderful forum as Avalon.

[Gardener]

Paul, you need to know that Laura's husband is a Physicist, his level of experience is such that he is one of the people who 'peer review' for publication. A lot of Laura's research is in collaboration with him and other high level theoretical and quantum physisists.
Please take care who you are putting in an inferior position to suit your own agenda.


Following Paul LaViolette hypothesis of attributing a difference in time between the arrival of a gravity disturbance and the arrival of a gamma ray burst, and from the point of view of my approach in the above debate, then gravity can be considered a special case of electromagnetism of highest known frequency and shortest wavelength and therefore fastest speed in any medium (or non-medium -- would make sense in an "electric"/electromagnetic plasma universe) followed by gamma rays, then X-rays and then the visible portion of the electromagnetic spectrum... QED!
Well, gosh dang. The Grand Unified Theory of Everything which physicists have sought for a century ... born right before our eyes ;).


On another tangent, LaViolette hypothesis lends credence to Laura Knight's "Cs" claim that "It's all gravity"
If by "Laura Knight" you refer to Laura Knight Jadczyk, then ... let's just say I value the physics work of LaViolette more than that of Laura Knight Jadczyk :).

[ThePythonicCow]

We would all be forgiven if we wrongly thought that the pair of you Paul and Teser act are sabotaging the subject of FE deliberately. Either way I will be watching.

I am confident that none of us currently participating here are deliberately sabotaging this thread, or the subject of free energy.

There is however a difference between discussing an important topic, and discussing it successfully.

Do keep watching ...

[ThePythonicCow]

Paul, you need to know that Laura's husband is a Physicist, his level of experience is such that he is one of the people who 'peer review' for publication. A lot of Laura's research is in collaboration with him and other high level theoretical and quantum physicists. Please take care who you are putting in an inferior position to suit your own agenda.
I trust the physics work of LaViolette more highly, regardless of any "agenda" you might insinuate. That is not an unreasonable choice on my part.

[Tesseract]

Gardener, please lay your cards on the table with regard to your allegations that I am a saboteur; when you provide the relevant quotes I will respond to them point by point. Until then I will let the allegation hang.

Regarding my posts, I may write a loose comment on occasion, but the majority of the time I try to compose reasoned comments. I made a number of fair points in this thread, which I stand by entirely. Further, attempts at emotional extortion which are intended to force me into a form of self-censorship will not work. I am not afraid of unpopularity, I see no reason to line-dance with the rest of the room if I don’t like the music. The OP makes his own choices, his faithful followers in this thread far outnumbered his inquisitors and while I questioned what the OP wrote I did not take away his audience – leaving was his choice.

So, Gardener, I am going to keep posting here at Avalon. If I feel that utterly unsubstantiated claims are being made then I will inquire. I may even step it up a notch, because frankly I have been holding back.

[SnowyOwl]

Yet yourself and others are unable to prove what Adam claims to be fact and namecall / deride his inability to prove his theories. Neither side is able to prove to the great unwashed their respective "facts"

As I have asked Adam to prove to us his ideas, I also ask you and others of knowledge to do the same. Prove him wrong. Lets not allow ths thread to degenerate to a point it becomes locked. such a fascinating subject should not be allowed to degenerate to a ridiculous point of no return!!

The subject may be fascinating, but this thread has made no useful contribution to our understanding of the subject. Moreover I claim this is so not because we're too ignorant or close minded (or too well educated in and locked into conventional physics), but rather because 7redorbs has not learned a manner of presentation and discussion which supports shared gains in understanding.

Apparently you are confusing what 7redorbs has been doing with presenting theory, facts or experimental results in a manner amenable to discussion, agreement or refutation, and then berating others, myself in particular, for not engaging with him in such. He hasn't been doing so.

As with the infamous case of Russell's Teapot (http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Russell%27s_Teapot), 7redorbs has not provided enough coherent substance to be falsifiable, outside of the relatively non-controversial slams of conventional physics. Rather he's mixed (a) annoyance at our alleged closed mindedness, (b) various plausible observations of flaws in conventional physics (which flaws I don't dispute) and (c) claims to theory or experiment supporting a better physics, which he has not developed sufficiently to enable any useful discussion or understanding by others.

Unfortunately, despite expending considerable energy in an apparent effort to advance our shared understanding, 7redorbs has not been able to do so in his present manner of participating. This is unfortunate, as his energy, interest, and persistence in this important topic is obviously very substantial.

We do develop our ideas on this forum, in the context of other more productive threads.

which is why I have asked for both sides to prove their own theories, which NEITHER have done so far. Far from berating "sides" I am asking for both parties to post "proof" of their theories other than just "theories". Disprove one another. All I see from this thread is 7Redorbs providing data and then others haranguing him for being closed minded. Of the figures and data he has produced I see no counter argument, corroborated by further data dis-proving what 7Redorb provides initially.

Salutations Paul,

Paul, remember Galileo ''Event'', he had not the methodology to present his views accordingly to the accepted methodology of that time.

And I would like you to ponder on this post that I have made few years ago in the most authoritative and notorious Epidemiology site on the Web.

Despite the fact that the leader of the site whose alias was Revere in memory of Revere whom with his light of his lantern warned sovereignist of the english colony of US of the incoming of the British armada and soldiers, he was and his a sommity in his field having tought Epidemiology for decades at Boston University and has made quite a lot of Peer Reviews.

Was it because he was going old, (around 70yrs old) or maybe because his experiences has thought him to be humble and receptive despite of a different methodology ??? Still, he had always granth me the privilege to express myself as a Medicine Man and I think all Putative authority person should follow his example coz not doing so is condescendent, arrogant and frankly irrespectfull,

So here's the post
Snowy Owl November 22, 2009
http://scienceblogs.com/effectmeasur...ermonette-179/ (http://scienceblogs.com/effectmeasure/2009/11/22/freethinker-sunday-sermonette-179/)
Snowy Owl Sunday Bells

Owl Train to Shaking Temples Station November 22nd, 2009

When I got out of the Owl Train,
With the usual Regional Express Journal under my arm,
Seeing this Station where I thought No Owls have gone before
The vision before me was astonishing...

Made of very old rocks, the Station seems to have been hit by many earthquakes Over and over trough Milleniums and not so long ago.

In fact there was an Earthquake few seconds after I put my Claws on its Ground
And a Huge one,
Of Course all Avians Fly up High Until the Earthquake was over

Carved in Rocks in many languages, some problably extinct, it is written;
All Authorities Dragging Minds Temples Are doomed by Transcendence

A Dove welcome me and invite me to a Hall,
He invite me with a soft sign of his Wings to Perch,
He then say;
Welcome to Shaking Temple Snowy Owl,
We haven’t seen one of you since around two Centuries And as your Ancestor told us, I will share with you what your Ancestor Oopik Told us to tell the next time a Snowy Owl comes here.

Hi Dear Descendant my name is Oopik
I came here at the end of the 1700′s
At the Time when the Religions Mind Magnets Swing into the hands of Sciences
As usual, Scientist will be speaking an unknown language by the People
Having in their Hands the Book of Temporal Truth,
Doctors and Scientists will become the Temporal Real Knower of Truth And,
as usual, they will affirm that they Know what is Good for People

I am sharing you what I have Witness from 1750 to 1850
That was the Time where People swing their Religions Progressively to Knowledge, And the motto Will probably be
Knowledge is Power

Dear descendant
As it was First described to me by the Pir of India,
And as He he Reiterated this trough Centuries Since the end of the 1500′s Century
He told me; 0opik,
Humanity Driving Force, Humanity Authority, Is on a Journey,
From Instinctive inclination to Political Civility,
Then via Transcendence Forces,
The Political imposed Behaviors, Swing from Politics submission to Religious inclination

Then Religious Authorities and People inclinations Via Transcendence
Religious Authority Swang to Science

The Shaking Khand got swing by earthquakes provoqued by Sciences
And if you are Here Descendant
It is because the Time arrived
That Sciences Authorities is swinging to the Intelligence of the Hearth
Via the Driving Force of Transcendance
Indeed Humanism transcend Sciences, Religious, Instincts
Humanism is now the rising Consciousness
Among the People With the Intelligence of One’s Hearth
Each and ones of Humans Will know Within,
what is Right and what is Wrong
And will act accordingly, discretely,
In Respect of Self and the Other
Despite the remainders of; Political, Religions and Sciences ruins
Called Eroding Enshrined Truths

A new Behaviour is now unfolding,
That Shall set Free Humanity From unnecessary deaths, fears, doubts and hesitations.

This is a new Leap for Mankind
Copyright Snowy Owl 2009 __________________

La vérité est en marche et rien ne l’arrêtera. [Emile Zola]

Re: Hints & Tips from Shamans & Medicine Men for Dec 22nd 2012


I wish to thank Revere at Effect Measure a sommity at Boston University teaching Epidemiology for many decades.

Despite his highly respected Medical Authority and Humanism he has always granth me the Freedom to express myself since 2004 as an Ojibwa Algonquin Medicine Men.

Revere is an Authentic Honorable Man and I Love him much.

Snowy

Revere is retired since about 2 years now

Parent Post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?53078-Hints-Tips-from-Shamans-Medicine-Men-for-Dec-22nd-2012&p=598143&viewfull=1#post598143)

Un pour Tous, Tous pour Un
One for All, All for One


Re: Hints & Tips from Shamans & Medicine Men for Dec 22nd 2012


I wish to thank Revere at Effect Measure a sommity at Boston University teaching Epidemiology for many decades.

Despite his highly respected Medical Authority and Humanism he has always granth me the Freedom to express myself since 2004 as an Ojibwa Algonquin Medicine Men.

Revere is an Authentic Honorable Man and I Love him much.

Snowy

Revere is retired since about 2 years now

Parent Post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?53078-Hints-Tips-from-Shamans-Medicine-Men-for-Dec-22nd-2012&p=598143&viewfull=1#post598143)

Un pour Tous, Tous pour Un
One for All, All for One

[Dennis Leahy]

... The OP makes his own choices, his faithful followers in this thread far outnumbered his inquisitors and while I questioned what the OP wrote I did not take away his audience – leaving was his choice.

...C'm,on now, the term "faithful followers" is pejorative and demeaning.

Looking back over the thread, you won't actually find any faithful followers, but there are some folks that are interested to see if there is something of substance here, or not.

If you know a handful of extremely bright people, I'll bet at least one of them is scattered and poor at conveying ideas, but yet, you know they have some brilliance.

I'd say, at this point, that a couple of members have raised red flags high and waved them quite visibly - calling bullsh!t. This should be enough. Warning delivered. Let Adam try to express his thoughts - you can't save acolytes from worshipping a false deity (if that is the equivalent of what this is.) Adding more at this point is "piling on."

If anyone starts a cult or forms a suicide pact then step in again, but until then, give him a chance to fully present his material, and then (if so inclined) shine a light on untrue assertions.

Dennis

[SnowyOwl]

I am going for one week, no internet access I think, but ski slopes yahou

So I will follow up when I am back,

Flash

If ever you come-up to Shaking Mount in Upper Laurentides, remember, when the speed reach a certain point everything seems to be shaking dont stay in that speed zone, go forward and you shall break the sounds wall amd deaf ears will hear ya. The first pilot reaching that shaking zone stayed there and their plane b roke apart until one decide to go faster and thus broke the sound wall. I shall watch ya since I reside beside the shaking mountain. No Fear, no temerity, enjoy

Snowy Owl

[Tesseract]

Dennis,

I didn't ask the OP to leave, nor did I try to covertly facilitate or instigate his departure. The OP does not need my permission to post more material in this thread or any other. No one here, including the OP and myself, needs an imprimatur from any other member to post what they wish.

[ThePythonicCow]

Was it because he was going old, (around 70yrs old) or maybe because his experiences has thought him to be humble and receptive despite of a different methodology ??? Still, he had always granth me the privilege to express myself as a Medicine Man and I think all Putative authority person should follow his example coz not doing so is condescendent, arrogant and frankly irrespectfull,
Not all that is criticized is "a different methodology" worthy as such to be humbly received without criticism.

Not all criticism is condescendant, arrogant and disrespectful.

We have not denied 7redorbs the privilege to express himself here.

[mosquito]

Can we find a way to bring the 2 rapidly developing "sides" on this thread together ?

1) Adam - You clearly have a good deal to offer, but equally clearly are not exactly adept at presenting information, That IS NOT meant to be a criticism, just an observation. There are plenty of people in our world who are extremely intelligent, gifted, creative thinkers who are also lousy writers. As already suggested - find someone you can explain your work to who is then able to present your findings to the outside world in a coherent way, in a way that will stand up to the scrutiny of the critical, logical thinkers. ;)

2) "Scientists" - Critical, logical thinking is necessary to sort the wheat from the chaff. But if we want the sum total of human knowledge to move forward, we need the ability to accept that what we studied at university n years ago might by now be questionable. Physics was violently shaken within a relatively short time frame, from the end of the 19th century to the years pre WWII. Decisions made at that time were no doubt made with a view to reaching a consensus, but there are obvious flaws in our understanding which, in my opinion, warrent far more than a little tweak here and there. Just as an illustration: about 15 years ago, I remember watching a documentary on the Hubble constant. Basically it was 60 minutes of the top scientists from the top universities all arguing that the value they'd derived for this constant was right, while everyone else was wrong. There are only 2 explanations for how this could possibly happen - firstly, the Hubble constant is in fact a variable; secondly, and far more likely, is that one of the parameters they were using in their calculations, which they assumed to be a constant, ISN'T. How often do we see his in science ? The (supposedly) greatest minds unable to make any progress because they're too busy defending their own position to notice the blindingly obvious.

Anyway ....... Can I invite ALL those concerned to sit round a metaphorical table, to put your credentials/experience/damaged egos to one side, and to work together in order to move forward constructively and cooperatively.

Thank you.

[ThePythonicCow]

2) "Scientists" - Critical, logical thinking is necessary to sort the wheat from the chaff. But if we want the sum total of human knowledge to move forward, we need the ability to accept that what we studied at university n years ago might by now be questionable.
I like your advice to Adam, mariposafe, but I disagree with the premise (what I quote) to your second point. You're implying that some of us on this thread are unwilling to question what we studied at university years ago. That is simply not so.

[mosquito]

Sorry Paul, I'm not necessarily saying you or anyone else on this thread is unable to question what they've previously learned, it was meant to be more general, I've met plenty of people who profess to be "scientists" and whose beliefs remain firmly rooted in their education, however far back it may have been. From your other posts here, it's clear you do accept that our current knowledge base falls short.

[SnowyOwl]

Was it because he was going old, (around 70yrs old) or maybe because his experiences has thought him to be humble and receptive despite of a different methodology ??? Still, he had always granth me the privilege to express myself as a Medicine Man and I think all Putative authority person should follow his example coz not doing so is condescendent, arrogant and frankly irrespectfull,
Not all that is criticized is &quot;a different methodology&quot; worthy as such to be humbly received without criticism.

Not all criticism is condescendant, arrogant and disrespectful.

We have not denied 7redorbs the privilege to express himself here.

I agree with all the above Paul but you have to admit that you, dennis and teaseract knowcked on the same nail one after another, this can not be consider fair nor Fair Tribune expression. Please do not come on the admin problems of managing a thread I have been an administrator of few forum of wich two where Vanilla. Such convergence of conceptual opposition is indeed coercive bullying. If you are not objective enough to recognised this as a fact, I REALLY WONDER WTF I AM DOING HERE. Therefore please reread the coerced assault, if you still in Denial please say so Snowy Owl

[ThePythonicCow]

I agree with all the above Paul but you have to admit that you, dennis and teaseract knowcked on the same nail one after another, this can not be consider fair nor Fair Tribune expression. Please do not come on the admin problems of managing a thread I have been an administrator of few forum of wich two where Vanilla. Such convergence of conceptual opposition is indeed coercive bullying. If you are not objective enough to recognised this as a fact, I REALLY WONDER WTF I AM DOING HERE. Therefore please reread the coerced assault, if you still in Denial please say so Snowy Owl

I have just reviewed the last few pages of this thread.

I am still in denial that what you describe is what has been transpiring here :).

[SnowyOwl]

To become truly great, one has to stand with people, not above them.

Charles de Montesquieu

[SnowyOwl]

Well since you are an admin endorse by the streering group, I will say only this, your attitude is indeed non-objective, stubborn and truly sad.

Wish you and all the best.

I will not ignore unfairness, denials, aversions and power trip, therefore, I am leaving.

Snowy Owl

[7redorbs]

your attitude is indeed non-objective, stubborn and truly sad.


Agreed.



I will not ignore unfairness, denials, aversions and power trip,

These are things which I find appalling and offensive myself.


I wont ignore it either but it does seem a shame that people will suffer not having the benefit of hearing my free expression, thoughts and perhaps wisdom :) , without unfounded accusations against me of idiocy or profiteering. A great deal of effort went into doing this work. I have given up literally years of career time, and am now destitute.

Did I ask for money? No. Did I want to advertise my book? Yes, to help get this information out there, not to make profit. Yes I self published my book. What of it. I made no effort to approach any publisher, I simply gave up work, and believe me it has upset many friends, colleagues and family doing something that basically nobody was doing, or wanted me to do. I wanted to do it, for you, for you all. What I know is big stuff and the world will be a terrible place if it does not become aware of it. Truly. It is not remarkable, I see that I have already partially failed to save off the old stories of suppression, deception, hearsay, speculation and true human ignorance for want of a better word. Humanity.


Not naming names but these people know who they are. They are the people that have made up their mind already and choose to slander me. Nothing wrong with a question right. Clearly it's the way people ask the question. I feel like my effort to communicate this information has been taken over by irrelevant argumentative and generally low minds. I share what I have at great cost, and likely at peril to my livelyhood - it is worth noting if the massive criminal conspiracy exists as I have witnessed, explained and testified is true, I may pay the ultimate price.

Some greeting for me huh?

So whilst people continue to argue here about who said what or did or didn't offend who, I can go out fully knowing that I tried to convey my thoughts and researches, and can go away in the full knowledge that the scientific facts, historical and technical facts I have shared are true. I tried to do a good thing, and I can walk away from this feeling alright. The people who can't, Truly they have my deepest sympathies and apologies that I could not help further. Truly.

You will not hear a more genuine word or story than mine.

It is a fact that the electromagnetic wave everyone is talking about here has absolutely nothing to do with my work. The comments made by some one about have been most preposterous, as we are not talking about light we are talking about those so-called electrons, or rather electricity, traveling faster than the constant square of light to energy and mass exchange. Somebody mentioned that nothing can travel faster than the speed of light in any media. I wish that were true or I would not be here in the first place. In the vacuum of space cosmic rays travel between 292,000 and 9,300,000 miles per hour. The electromagnetic theory is by definition criminally and socially useless. This is what I have repeated throughout this thread in numerous different ways. All on deaf ears? Not all. Thank you to those people, you know who you are. You have my respect and appreciation and it is with sincere greetings I am glad to have yours. This is how it should be, should it not?

Some waves travel well in excess of 50 times the speed of light, they will go through absolutely anything, and are tiny. Indeed, whilst light has a limited amount of mass, and comprises of a great deal of wave particle energy, the electron consists greatly of mass in it's conveyance of charge, and it is a fundamental principle of relativity and the famous einstein equation that nothing with mass can travel faster than the speed of light. This includes the so-called electron, the thing that is conveying our so-called electricity, as modern scientists and anyone academically trained will declare.

Of course the electron, as professed by the so-called experts cannot travel faster than the speed of light, because of it's mass, but what if the thing that caused the electron to rotate around it's atom was not consisting of mass, nor was it constrained by the speed of light. Then all the completely appalling attitudes that did rear their ugly heads can take a bite of biscuit for why I repeatedly asked them to explain why an electron, with it's mass, and therefore requiring energy, according to einsteins equation to rotate around the atom, yet this is not accounted for. There is no place we know that the energy comes from, and we do not know what makes the electrons spin like they do.

In fact if the thing scientists call electrons were not in perpetual motion around atoms, no conductors would conduct electricity. So, the thing limiting the mass of the electron with it's negative charge traveling from point A to B is not the mass of the electron is it, nor is it it's energy , power or charge, it is the perpetual motion.

The energy to account for the perpetual motion of the electron is missing, and conveniently ignored by relativitsts, but quantum physicists are not so deluded. Feynman, nobel prize winner was not fooled, he realised this early on, hence why he invented the modern phase diagram for quantum wave theory, because he knew that thinking inside the ordinary box of singular energies was wrong, the straight line and energy of any photon and electron actually consists of an almost infinite amount of energy, which in quantum superposition almost completely cancel out. If there was a way to deflect and bend, like a prism can split light, but for some of the quantum paths of the photons and electrons, we could all have free energy, right now. It is likely if this was possible that the energy gained, would come from somewhere, perhaps the thing that gives the electrons their perpetual motion.

It is interesting to note that it is the motion of the MEDIA and it's PERPETUAL negative electron orbits is the true thing that allows the electromagnetic waves of electron particle mass to travel at the speed of light through the medium at approximately the speed of light. The electron conveyed at point B at the end of a transmission line electron-conveyer is in fact a different electron than the one that went in the transmission line at point A. This must be the case because Einsteins theory says the electron has mass, and anything with mass cannot travel so close to the speed of light. This proves that it is the media that is the thing that is doing the work, and allowing an electron going in point A to create the appearance of a new electron at point B at light speed. So A electron is traveling at about walking pace or less, but B came out instantly. The pressure and motion of the valent media is the thing that caused the velocity of the output at B, and indeed the electron was an electron out of the atomic wire, pushed out because of the pressure of the mass charge A entering in between the sub divided atomic media. Or rather, for every ampere there is an equal and opposite ampere.

It is well worth noting the Copenhagen interpretation of spooky action at a distance (which is proven) shows instant transmission from point A to point B. Therefore accounting that the motion and energy that carried it there must be of an infinite velocity and infinite energy.

Poor einstein. You can see why he hated the idea and looked so grumpy in the Copenhagen picture I presented to you all. He'd LOST, and that's a fact. All day he spent trying to disprove it, and inventing reasons for why it "couldn't be". Scientsits do that all the time. But the great Einstein died, still without a solution. Poor Einstein, indeed.

This is all proof that it was the pre-existing electron motion of the sub divided atoms we call the transmission media that were truly responsible for the media's ability to conduct and transmit. It also means that einstein's theory of relativity and the theory of maximal limit of light in a vacuum ignores space as a media, and a dimension, and fails to understand the true non electromagnetic nature of the electrostatic discharge as professed by Tesla and Wheatstone. It is also proof that all light speed propogations in Q.E.D result from faster than light propogations of a multitude of other waves of different velocities and positions. (AKA Heisenberg uncertainty and Feynman).

The evidence is staring many of you in the face. But many of you would rather rattle on in self exorbitance. I am glad many steersmen and hijackers of this thread feel good and confident about themselves. I however have never been confident in any of the ideas I propose, as, I have often learnt that being too quick to judge is an embarassing endeavor. It has taught me to be thorough, to not act quickly, to think before judging, and most importantly of all, to respect all human beings of all kinds. Maybe this explains why I tried to bring this information to you all in the first place.


I would add that human ignorance is the greatest and most destructive force on this planet. And having re-read this thread thoroughly, and the facts that I have stated, I can say firmly and confidently myself that it was not I who has been ignorant here.

Some people ought to know better, but others want to make sure of it , that is, that "other people ought to know better" - and they are not afraid to speak and assert their theories no matter how droll, conservative or outright ridiculous they are. Many of the theories I have proposed seem difficult for the scientist, and I think that has been demonstrated here.

I will not partake in a massive "hoo haw" appealing to authority - I do my own research and experiments, and people here would do well to do the same. I cannot recount the number of times that people have told me "what are you doing, playing with sparks, idiot, this teaches me nothing" . Invariably they are always men that have accepted the description of the electron, and the neutrino, and the neutron, and so and and so on, and stringently believe things like radioactivity "take care of themselves". The truth is that radioactivity COMPLETELY CEASES when shielded from cosmic rays, that is, starlight to the folks that find it difficult to keep up with my "badly presented" posts.

Perhaps it is not what I present, but the competence, and the self centered and self assuredness of some of the people here leaping to conclusions. That is the opinion my technical experience lends me to consider strongly after witnessing this debacle. Before attempting to understand the advanced ideas that I have laid to rest here, they are quick to quote what they believe and only know to be right. Do not think that I am not familiar with your explanations. I have shown that I am.

The reason why I continuously asked for relativists to account for perpetual motion of the electron has been asserted.

Because it can't be explained. Yet electrical theory, the whole of relativity and spooky action at a distance may very well be deeply, or entirely dependent on perpetual motion. Ironically it is outlawed, that is perpetual motion, and every academic is told to hunt down and slay anyone who suggests otherwise, more often than that, making continuous demands for "extraordinary evidence for extraordinary claims".

My friends I have backed up my extraordinary claims with the patent of Nikola Tesla himself, giving the speed of his waves as 292,000 miles per second, a full 105,000 miles per second faster than light. It remains a FACT that I have actually provided quite a lot more than that. and my God I wish I could convey to you how difficult it has been. This is not a new reaction you know. Look what they did to Wilhelm Reich, they wanted to "help him" and save peoples lives from fake cancer cures. Ya think? This stuff has been around for decades, more people would be using it if people were more competent or even less ignorant.

Nothing will be good enough, these people have already decided. It now remains to be seen whether I will be allowed to explain it to the people that haven't without these infernal and unsupported accusations largely claiming the same of me. I beg to differ, and I will leave it at that.

People have judged incorrectly in many cases, and for that, I am truly sorry that my best was not good enough for them. I am also truly regretful that my plight to help people, at great risk and deep and personal sacrafice to my body , mind and spirit could be confused with the appalling suggestions and frankly very rude and upsetting behavior of some people here.

I was warned not to try, and was warned that this would happen, but I am a scientist and I do believe in free commune, but when so many might jump to these conclusions, it is really no wonder that the things I have been speaking about here, the forgotten electricity systems of Nikola Tesla have been lost and deleted. - you let it - you let idiots lead you. You were greedy instead of competent, self absorbed rather than world-centric. You thought small, instead of big, and so your world reflected it. The small man, that is all that is left. Regardless that we had free energy in 1914.

Make no mistake I attempted to expose this , (and I did quite admirably) that Radio Corporation America is a criminal enterprise expressly designed and enacted by the U.S military government to takeover tesla's last remaining works and funnel them into government and military projects. Now most are classified - removing quietly the multiple loaded flat top antenna and replacing it with the rhombic-D. There will be no more special scalar waves, and faster than light waves mr marconi and mr tesla, there will be no more longitudinal magneto dielectric tesla coils or wardenclyffe towers mr tesla and marconi, there will be only the electromagnetic, the billions of times more wasteful electrical system, and boy will we make a killing!

Literally - a killing! More have died because of this than in the last world war. International poverty is a terrible thing.

Make no mistake, these technical details outlay the greatest criminal conspiracy to ever happen. And to all those completely bemused how something could be so true, we only need to look at some of the reactions from people here to see how quickly a fool will lap up a commendation or some false sense of "helping" and "protecting people against the ideas of liars and con artists"; we stand to now observe this reaction is in fact venom from the liars and con artists themselves. These people are the ones that are to blame for things like this going unnoticed.

Perhaps if you have to "save people" maybe they weren't saving. Or maybe you can't accept an alternative point of view, and answer a few basic questions yourself.

A truly shocking memorandum I have.

Best,
A


Remarks:





It is however, that the Telluric Transmission Networks of N. Tesla are completely engineer-able. This is also true for the U.S.N. Alexanderson systems of transmission. The Rogers U.S.N. system also should be noted. The Tesla “thru the Earth” radio has been rendered mere technical details by the writings of L.V. Bewely, Blume, Steinmetz, and Dollard. In particular note Bewely, “Traveling Waves on Transmission Systems,” chapter on single winding waves, and Dollard, “Condensed Introduction to the Tesla Transformer”, and “Theory of Wireless Power” section on coil Coil Calculations.

The Tesla Magnifying Transmitter is now an engineer-able reality, this for any competent radio engineer. The 160 meter Ham Band, (1.8 – 2.0 Megacycle per sec.) is the perfect spot for our “International Contest.” My longitudinal videos show the construction of a “160 meter” flat spiral transformer.

These medium wave frequencies along with large paths of transmission on a quadrant of the Earth make velocity determination possible.

Note that Tesla’s drawing indicates that velocity depends on the cosecant of the latitudinal angle, it is infinity at the poles and luminal at the equator, if anyone ever bothered to look at the fine print. The pi over two is the effective velocity between the limits of c and infinity.

There is no longer any excuse for not implementing Tesla Transmission on the Ham Bands, none!

Eric Dollard 12-05-2011

A bad Situation



Lieutenant Junior Grade, U.S.N. Albert Einstein is seated before five senior officers at a Judge Advocate General Board of Inquiry. It has been convened at Pearl Harbor Naval Shipyard. Lt. J.G. Einstein is the defendant and the Board is about to issue it’s verdict. The charges are very serious.

It seems that Mr. Einstein utilized a college physics textbook, in lieu of Bureau of Ships directives, in performing operations on a shore power connection. Mr. Einstein employed “his understanding”, as derived from Physics, “Maxwell’s Equations”, in determining the connections for a shore power transformer bank (480V at 1500 KVA). Seaman Lopez was directed by Lt. J.G. Einstein to make the “backward” connections, but Lopez knew the outcome would spell disaster. He learned in his Naval Electricians Mate training that the connection would cross phase, however Mr. Einstein berated Lopez, as Einstein’s Princeton University education overshadowed “Electricity Schools”. Lopez was reminded that to refuse orders would result in a Captains Mast and possible Court Martial under the U.C.M.J. A terrified Lopez closed the switch and was killed in the blast. Four more were injured and the Shipyard was without power for several hours.

Lieutenant Junior Grade Albert Einstein was pronounced –guilty- by the Board. He received a life sentence at Leavenworth Federal Prison. The next day the Chief of Naval Operations issues the following directive to all Fleet Commanders. It reads in part; At 0000 hours U.T.C. Dec 21, 2012 the following order is in effect: The use of Physics Texts in any and all Naval Operations is henceforth PROHIBITED. The next day a Presidential Order is signed abolishing the practice of teaching Electrical Principles by Physicists. (But the Mayan Calendar says we will not make it that far)

We have reached the Final Proclamation. It can no longer be avoided. It is that the “Laws of Physics” find no application in the understanding of Electricity for the Electrical Scientist. The Physicist is best regarded as a subversive from an enemy country, and his efforts best suited for the development of “Weapons of Mass Destruction.”

The entire system of “Units and Dimensions” for electrical work as they exist today are an incongruous quagmire force fit to Einstein’s E equals mc square. Electricity is a “mass free” phenomena. This is given by Dr. Wilhelm Reich in his “Cosmic Superimposition”. Mass has no place in Electrical Units and a directive is issued to remove it from said units and dimensions. The question of mass is touched upon by Oliver Heaviside in his “Electro-Magnetic Theory” Vol I, pages 337 to 339.

Art. 189, Internal Obstruction and Superficial Conduction
On page 339, “In the limit, with no resistance (perfect conduction) it never gets in at all. Where then is the current?” There is none.

It is further found that the existing system of units are infected with useless constants such as 4*pi and one over c square, as well as a multitude of arbitrary powers of ten. The systems of units as they exist today are pure N.F.G. This is given by Heaviside, same Volume I, pages 116 to 123.

Art. 90, “The eruption of the 4*pi”

Art. 91, “The origin and the spread of the Eruption.”

Art. 92, “The cure of the Disease by Proper Measure of the Strength of the Sources.”

Art. 93, “The Obnoxious Effect of the Eruption.”

Art. 94, “A Plea For the Removal of The Eruption by the Radical Cure.”

Here now the Primary Directive is issued: Rationalize the system of units and dimensions. Remove all “pathogenic” dimensional relations, MASS IN PARTICULAR. This will follow shortly. (Also, on this matter see “Impulses, Waves, Discharges”, Steinmetz, pages 14 & 15.)

Lamare has pushed forward these writings in order to accommodate the “Moon-bounce Initiative”. Hence certain introductory material for the “Youngsters” must be passed over for now. This “act of genius” on the part of Lamare must in itself be pushed forward; An International Ham Contest to disprove Einstein, (but do not ask the A.R.R.L.). Wow Mr. Wizard, that sounds like loads of fun. Lets get started today.

It should be noted however that Lamare is taking a most difficult path. His route lacks any definite engineering formulation but let me draw his attention to C.P. Steinmetz and the treatment of a related situation. It is found in “Theory and Calculation of Transient Electric Phenomena”, “Transients in Space” and section on “Velocity of Propagation of the Electric Field, Capacity of a Sphere”. When the one over c square and the 4*pi*10^-9 are eliminated, the velocity of propagation of the dielectric field is an independent variable. These relations were given by myself at the International Tesla Society in my lecture “Hysteresis of the Aether”. The P.E.E.E., QRM and Dis-infos were conspicuously absent from this presentation! I wonder why?

It is however, that the Telluric Transmission Networks of N. Tesla are completely engineer-able. This is also true for the U.S.N. Alexanderson systems of transmission. The Rogers U.S.N. system also should be noted. The Tesla “thru the Earth” radio has been rendered mere technical details by the writings of L.V. Bewely, Blume, Steinmetz, and Dollard. In particular note Bewely, “Traveling Waves on Transmission Systems,” chapter on single winding waves, and Dollard, “Condensed Introduction to the Tesla Transformer”, and “Theory of Wireless Power” section on coil Coil Calculations. The Tesla Magnifying Transmitter is now an engineer-able reality, this for any competent radio engineer. The 160 meter Ham Band, (1.8 – 2.0 Megacycle per sec.) is the perfect spot for our “International Contest.” My longitudinal videos show the construction of a “160 meter” flat spiral transformer. These medium wave frequencies along with large paths of transmission on a quadrant of the Earth make velocity determination possible. Note that Tesla’s drawing indicates that velocity depends on the cosecant of the latitudinal angle, it is infinity at the poles and luminal at the equator, if anyone ever bothered to look at the fine print. The pi over two is the effective velocity between the limits of c and infinity. There is no longer any excuse for not implementing Tesla Transmission on the Ham Bands, none!

Now the Coyote has to puke. Up comes the goo & mucus of undigestable matter, what a mess. Forget the Bearden fecal matter, Forget the Corum carrion. IT IS ABSOLUTELY USELESS. This material is Pathogenic, also from another standpoint. There are Journalistic Interest, such as the B.B.C. & etc. that sometimes turn a favorable ear to Tesla concepts. For these interested to get mired in a concatenated sequence of falsehoods & misconceptions is the “Kiss of Death” to any public awareness. It also illegitimizes “The Work” in the eyes of Scientists & Engineers. Puke it up once and for all!

The Bearden zealot stands at the bottom of the utility pole, exclaiming to the lineman on top, replacing a missing cross-arm brace, “You lose half your power in that 33KV line (50% efficient) because you don’t pump the Scalar Waves.” The irritated Lineman drops the brace and now must climb down to retrieve it. Angered, the Lineman slams his fist into the mouth of the yac-yac, knocking him to the ground and shouts, “This Line is 98% efficient you moron.” What more can I say, Heaviside E.M. Theory, Vol III, page 1, art. 450.

Adagio. Andante, Allegro Moderato.

“There is a time for all things: for shouting, for gentle speaking, for silence; for washing of pots and the writing of books. Let the pots go black, and set to work. It is hard to make a beginning, but it must be done.” Oliver Heaviside

73 DE N6KPH



Eric Dollard, 12-05-2011

[Jean-Luc]

I am sorry I have no time at the moment to delve more into the discussion. But my general feeling is that the understanding on this thread is particularly difficult and that we are talking at different levels.

And I believe it’s more related to feelings (and at times perhaps lack of...) that any hard core stubbornness from either parties.

If I may...

Our dear Paul’s attitude – which I so often appreciate as being to the point and subtle with this unique British gentleman flavour – is here at times received, and I can and do understand that, given the context, as condescending and even arrogant. Would I be in Paul’s shoes, I would feel neither one nor the other, for all sorts of good factual reasons which indeed can be traced back in very single post of this thread. The fact remains that this is how it is felt and it is unfortunately not conducive to the advancement of this topic.

This being said, I value Dennis’s very good advice here to have Adam try and find an assistant to help him convey his (most probably) brilliant theories for the layman.


Adam, in the world of software development, it is accepted that the very worst possible candidate for the job of creating documentation and especially "help" files for the software is the lead programmer. Why? Because the lead programmer is immersed and fully aware of every nuance of the software - and cannot possibly look with a "fresh pair of eyes" that a "newbie" to the software will have. So, the job of creating "help" files is always given to someone else (in anything bigger than a one-man programming firm.)

As someone said a while ago, you need an assistant. You need a non-physicist (not even an amateur physicist) to explain your ideas. You need only explain the ideas to this one person, this one well-organized person capable of producing a simple text description (at least) and multimedia presentations (at best.) As Flash said, the history of where the ideas came from is interesting, but is dragging down the thread's promise of new (or hidden/forgotten) energy science.


Also, as this would be such a catalyst, I would really urge you, Adam, to consider Eaglespirit’s suggestion for collaboration. This is also what this community is here for.


I am going to send some pm's out to people I am close to here...it really is time to get together some how and put these things to work...even if it is a lone cabin in the woods right now. I really feel if we put this to work in a simple household set up we will not be hindered by those people and things that have stopped many in their tracks. We are on the verge of a big breakthrough.
Simply showing how a small home can be run with this while other 'advanced' things are being freed up all around us in every facet of our lives as these changes occur more rapidly now will be a powerful catalyst.
That is what we are here for.

And I am grateful for all of you here trying so hard to do something here at Avalon in each and all of those 'facets' of life that we need to change, pronto!

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?49052-Modern-Electrical-Systems-Crimes-against-Man-THE-Sabbath-of-the-New-Science&p=611712&viewfull=1#post611712

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edited to add current reply:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30405-Here-and-Now...What-s-Happening&p=611724&viewfull=1#post611724


As Adam put’s it:

Time is short.


And the time is now.

Let’s take some deep breath, some time to ponder and meditate, leaving our turmoil and irritations on the side. And go for it.
___________

Post Edit

Meanwhile, the "Keshe" classroom is currentlty being prepaired : cf. this thread "Homemade laboratory" here:

http://forum.keshefoundation.org/showthread.php?1176-Homemade-laboratory&p=6196&viewfull=1#post6196


The response to the


The truth seeker;6078]Here is my list of what I believe will be needed (Mr. Keshe can comment/advise if I make a mistake):

1) probably the most important!! a GEIGER COUNTER!! (to make sure that you are not harming yourself in the process of the experiments) yes
2) Vaccume pump (Mr. Keshe advises that a pump able to reach -7 BAR is needed and probably costs ~1000 EU, his pumps are ~10000 EU) yes
3) Multi-meter (digital is probably the best) yes
4) Tanks of certain elements (the list of elements to be provided during the teaching, as I do not want to advise anyone "what elements" to get) H, He, N, C, O,
5) Empty tanks to hold new materials/elements and to provide a safe way of "flushing" the reactor: yes
6) Oscilloscope (probably a good idea, but not known if it is required) not realy as there is no oscillation in plasma conditions
7) (this is for people that are going to create the reactor from scratch) - Brazing/welding materials to construct the core. (a nicely equiped shop would be great!) get the tanks made or buy of the shelves for about 100_300 euros
8) a florecent light tube, for testing the magnetic fields outside the reactor (as per the study group and comments Mr. Keshe posted) not needed

and probably THE most important "check" to make:

9+10) UNDERSTANDING the technology!!! You could do so much good by creating the reactor, but could also do so much harm if not understood the principles behind what you are doing, and the do's and don'ts of the system (again, Mr. Keshe to advise during the teachings, but your job is to understand what he is teaching). Read, read, read, but most of all, understand!!!!

We will start showing of the reactors and systems on lab condition in the first weeks of the this year; we are waiting for webmaster to put things in order for live presentations from the lab.

From this point on everything will put across directly.

You can ask questions during the lab tests too.

M.T. Kehse - Jan 6, 2012.


Adam, can you help?

[Gardener]

There is something rumbling around in my thoughts which I think is relevent to this thread, I need to exress it. Getting energy from the void, zero point energy, free energy (in an economic exchange sense) in a consistent perhaps non random way may have a consciouness component. I could even say 'must' have by necessity. In any event I 'think' thought is energy which does indeed travel in an instant! But in a general sense 'we' are not at all (yet) in control of our emotional 'thinking'. The damaged ego has indeed a lot to answer for in its need to be right in the preservation of itself, and its need to profit the self from its actions.

This is not a criticism of human kind, it is a heartfelt plea for introspection without judgement to observe who and what we are at this moment, and what we might become when indeed we can bring these wild horses under willing control. An example might be that the thinking head part is doing the work of the emotional heart and getting it wrong, 'render unto Ceaser...' and all that. The Ego antipathy fears lack, its predatorial tendency fears identification, and rejects and dismisses anything non-same.

The monolith which is the energy economy of the world is in this space. Collectively we reside there too until we are able to move forward and de-bug the personal psyche. It is a painful road. There is not a scientist in the world who can in fact collect data and make correlations except within him/herself. Somewhere along the road there will be that meeting place the lines will cross and there will be a collective 'Aha' moment which will manifest this energy into current science.
Here is where zero point energy is waiting, here we will find acceptance, knowing of an abundant life. For the time being those expressing creative possibility in this area are the jewel of our future. I feel we should nurture it.

[Dennis Leahy]

...I agree with all the above Paul but you have to admit that you, dennis and teaseract knowcked on the same nail one after another, this can not be consider fair nor Fair Tribune expression. Please do not come on the admin problems of managing a thread I have been an administrator of few forum of wich two where Vanilla. Such convergence of conceptual opposition is indeed coercive bullying....Perhaps English is a second language or I have not expressed myself well, but I have been encouraging, not bullying, Adam. Adam knows this.

Dennis

[eaglespirit]

atlnVNy0IDE

[SnowyOwl]

...I agree with all the above Paul but you have to admit that you, dennis and teaseract knowcked on the same nail one after another, this can not be consider fair nor Fair Tribune expression. Please do not come on the admin problems of managing a thread I have been an administrator of few forum of wich two where Vanilla. Such convergence of conceptual opposition is indeed coercive bullying....Perhaps English is a second language or I have not expressed myself well, but I have been encouraging, not bullying, Adam. Adam knows this.

Dennis

Salutations Dennis, First I truly appreciated your reaching out and your statement concerning ''my confusions in languages'', I am aware of it and it is normal when you get into deep understanding of languages that are coherent but not at all the same cohesive methodology has in English, and it is «truthfull, English is not my first language, it is the third. For me your post above is like the calling bol gong up in Nepal and eastern Tibet. Without prejudice I will read again the whole thread. Backing off indeed allow me to see better the whole picture of course. Backing off from a branch of tree allows me to see better the forest than the trees hiding it. Frankly, for now, I still have the same opinion but I must do this retrospective homework again and I am aware that a Second Reading will certainly reinforce or attenuated, or as we say in French bring forth some ''Nuances'' (Fine TUning). Anonymity has its privileges too but authenticity has its duty. And here I am talking about Bill, a couple of decade ago Bill Dared to Care enough to share what I considered important informations despites the backlash he was aware that was incoming. So, Thank you Dennis, your expression in the above post is respectfull, and for Snowy Owl, When a Perch is brought towards you, just go on it, Perch and reflect. Thank you from a former Téton neighbord. Already you have removed the sadness that emerged within me to have the privilege to give back a piece of my expetise and a piece of my heart to Bill via this forum «take 2» since in the forum first draft, despite being a member and a poster it was not possible, then to give back goodness to Bill. Paul, yes I was surprised that you have persist and sign on your evaluation, but knowing where you are, having immersed for awhile in your surrounding, swiftly and impulsively bowing to pressure ain't what must be done impulsively. Texas, as Québec are the two most stubborn Euro-American Cultures of North America after the First Nations of course. Objectively, and few people knows that, Texas bear on its ''intra muros'' energy production layout the responsability of being the dispatcher-coordinator of all the electrical energy west of the Missisipi way up to western Canadian Provinces, just has Québec bear the responsability of all the East energy from Florida to Nova Scotia. Regional narrow relations in our both regions has made us bashing spacegoat, but still, not only we are both autarcic in electric energic, we both export and have agreed to support our respective Western and Eastern neighbords notwhitstanding of the Country. LOL, probably this is a direct consequences of being the two annoying stubborn Souverignists region of US and Canada. Salutations Adam, Since we agree that our attitude is a determinant in what we are bound to live, may I ask you, please, to avoid putting the light on the nasty greedy ones that have used science as a propaganda tool, coz, you know as I know that we can share a lot of informations, helpfull, pragmatic and pratical ones from the Leonardo Da Vinci of the 20th Century. Aware or not, we indeed need to restore Tesla Genius farsight visionnary testimony. Thank you all, Now time for me to do my homework. The " Knight Path " is a Path of gracefull empowerment for all. It is a Path that trigger the reflex to head straight to the essentials, not choosing flying away in adversity, courageously daring to stand the Ground knowing full well that believing to be the bearer of Certitude is immature and medidation and revision without renouncing Mindset layout is Noble and is part of the Kathas of the ''Knight Path''. Sincerely and truly, Snowy Owl

[Tesseract]

My questioning of the OP on several points is completely legitimate, Dennis’s very reasonable advice is also legitimate, and Paul’s management of this thread has been reasonable beyond objection IMO. If one takes such input, and the fact that on occasion our comments chronologically happen to fall next to one another, and you call that bullying, then you bankrupt that very word of all substance.

[7redorbs]

Dennis throughout this thread you have done nothing but your best to support and understand what it is I am trying to do, and for that I truly thank you,


Best Wishes,
A

[SnowyOwl]

My questioning of the OP on several points is completely legitimate, Dennis’s very reasonable advice is also legitimate, and Paul’s management of this thread has been reasonable beyond objection IMO. If one takes such input, and the fact that on occasion our comments chronologically happen to fall next to one another, and you call that bullying, then you bankrupt that very word of all substance.
Jean-Luc ist right, let's do deep breathing.

Harfang des Neiges

[Tesseract]

I didn't wait for a revision from you, SnowyOwl, because I had no reason to expect one - I posted my above comment before your comments to Dennis appeared on my screen.

[eaglespirit]

Adam, Good Day to You!

The planet is harboring a sickness that has integrated itself into every facet of our lives here by ways and means that are of a higher-penetrable-dark-dimension and there are now massive people/spirits waking up that are connecting to their own higher energies above and beyond the manipulative/deceiving/distorting dimension that most all of this diatribe energy we hurt one another with comes from and has been here and coming onto earth for a very long time. We are at a turning point, for real, right now...no more finger pointing is necessary....many of us are fully aware of it all, We must live in every moment as though a spiritual evolution has taken hold, because it in fact has.

Science and Spirituality are one and the same and until we start riding this wave consciously and deliberately together there will remain a 'stall' in our transforming this penetrated-manipulated-deep-embedded sickness.
I am sharing from personal experience and have lived what I spout...many, many more are doing the same now and helping to clear this all up, it is happening in real time in front of us and going exponential all around the earth.

Do you have practical hands-on experience with the hard work and research that has brought you to the full uncovering of this mess?...let's do something with it..in a full spiritual/scientific context. Forget what has happened to others in the past, we can help move this forward in a big way.

People on this thread are trying...we have never been here before on this planet...we are learning fast now to integrate both rhythms...let's create something with it.

Every moment is spiritual...even in disagreement and even in learning to quiet the ego from hard lessons...every single moment is spiritual now...this is the only way to correct all of this, living in this insight....and we can do this together nowso more than ever.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?46312-Tap-on-Tap-off-the-tapper.&p=611695&viewfull=1#post611695

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from a recent post by Carmody:

http://www.bsmhturk.com/gallery.php

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30405-Here-and-Now...What-s-Happening&p=612249&viewfull=1#post612249

[7redorbs]

I just saw about 10 posts disappear from this thread?

Can someone tell me why they were removed?


Best,
A

[Kristin]

I've moved the Gamma Ray conversation to it's own thread to create the space for this thread to continue to flourish. You can find this new thread concerning gamma rays here: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?54091-Gamma-Rays-and-Their-Effects-a-conversation

From the Heart,
Kristin

[7redorbs]

Thanks I appreciate that Kristin.


Best,
A

[7redorbs]

An excerpt from Technology For a New Future p79-84
General Principia of a new periodic table and energy physics defined not by atomic number but by atom particle motion
and a commentary on the explanation of the evolving scientific method in the scientific principle

The truth about the "great Einstein" and the "great relativity theory" on which all electromagnetic assumptions of the only existent features of waves are evidently based




Dewey B Larson (Transcription)
The best lost lecture on Scientific Theory Ever

5000 years ago when the invention of writing on clay tablets by the Sumerians first gave the human race an opportunity to make a permanent record of its thoughts and actions. Already in existence was a sophisticated science of astronomy. The priests who were the scientists of those days were not only familiar with elementary astronomical facts such as the apparent movements of the sun, moon and planets, but they had also advanced to the point where they were able to predict eclipses and were able to predict the year within a half hour of its accepted value. The premises, on which these calculations and others of the same kind were made, were the fundamentals of the science of that day. In the sense in which I am using the term tonight. That is they are the most basic of the relations, the principles - that were used by the science of that day. These principles were originally derived by a simple application of what we now call inductive reasoning - that is they were generalisations from experience. And that is the most reliable method at arriving at scientific principles, fundamental or otherwise. But unfortunately it is limited by the amount of empirical information that’s available and by the extent to which that information has been analyzed. So the result is of that an inductive science, such as that of the ancient peoples, has a tendency to fall behind the progress of empirical discovery, and ultimately it acquires a rather embarrassing accumulation of unsolved problems. Now that was the situation in Egypt, Babylonia and the far East about 3000 years ago. The time was clearly right for some new approach, and that was provided by a remarkable group of thinkers that flourished in Greece, during the golden age in that country’s history. The source of order in the universe these men said was mind, and the proper way of arriving at general principles was to apply insight and reasoning. A result of that change in policy was to concentrate attention on the CAUSES of physical phenomenon, rather than on the phenomena themselves; where the Egyptians only saw that a rock would fall from a height, the Greek's looked for the cause of the fall. The Greeks reasoned that everything must have their natural place. So the rock falling was seeking its natural place. In this way the Greeks by providing an explanation they remedied the chief defect of the previous inductive theories. Similarly they reasoned that whilst the earth is obviously imperfect the heavens are perfect - and all heavenly motions must then take the perfect form, that of a circle. So the orbits of the planets are undoubtedly circular. Now observation and experiment were definitely relegated to secondary position by the Greeks, but they were not disregarded altogether. So when the observation shown that the planetary orbits were not circles, it was recognised, that this was an awkward discrepancy that we have to do something about. But one of the strong points of an inventive science, such as that of the Greeks, is that it can easily accommodate new discoveries simply by more invention. So they assumed that the planets move in small circles called epicycles, and these epicycles then move around the main planetary orbit. Then when further observational refinement disclosed still more discrepancy, those could be taken off in exactly the same way, by adding more epicycles. This ptolemaic theory of planetary orbits, is typical of inventive theories in general, and since we see it in a historical perspective, by taking a look at this ptolemaic theory, we can get an idea of the general characteristics of inventive theories.

1. That theory was mathematically correct, within the existing observational limits. The Then existing limits. That is a general characteristic of all inventive theories because they are invented for that specific purpose. They are specifically designed to fit mathematics that are already known
2. The second significant point is that that theory, the Ptolemaic theory was conceptually wrong. The interpretation of the mathematics was wrong. And that again is a general characteristic that applies to all inventive theories because of the circumstances under which they are invented. As many observers have pointed out, long standing problems in science do not continue to exist on a lack of competence of those who are trying to solve them. Nor do they continue to exist as a result of a lack of methods to go about solving them. They exist because some piece, or pieces of information that are essential, are missing. In the cases of the Ptolemaic theory there were two such pieces of information. The Greeks did not realise that the planets revolved around the sun, rather than around the earth. And they did not know that there was a force of gravitation controlling those movements. Without those two pieces of information neither the Ptolemaic theory, or any other theory that was invented to explain the mathematics could have been correct.

Now that is a general characteristic of inventive theories. If all of the information is available, if all of the information is there, then there is no need to invent a theory, then we can achieve it by inductive means. If the essential information is not there, then any theory we invent cannot be conceptually be right. In view of the practically unlimited opportunity for making ad-hoc assumptions, that is adding epicycles. An inventive theory never comes to the fate of the inductive systems of theories. The inventive system may fail to account for a few things at any given time, but there is never the big accumulation that characterises an inductive system of theory that has fallen behind the progress of discovery. But the inventive theory, ultimately an inventive system of theories, an inventive science I might call it, ultimately encounters a fate of its own. Sooner or later we just have too many epicycles, and in the meantime the progress of observation and construction of inductive theories of lower rank has continued. So that ultimately we get to the point when the scope of those theories is broad enough to challenge the prevailing inventive (specific) theory. And then the inventive theory goes to the boards. That is what happened to the Greek inventive system, about 500 years ago, and at that time the perfection of the heavens and the natural places of objects and the other governing principles that the Greeks had invented were discarded and replaced by other principles that were derived by such men as Kepler and Newton, from factual foundations by inductive reasoning. Now the benefit of the 2500 years of accumulated scientific knowledge, since the demise of the first inductive theories, this new science of Newton and his contemporaries was a vastly improved product, and it scored some very impressive successes. At one time the practitioners of that science were pretty thoroughly convinced that the knowledge of the entire physical universe was within their grasp, but here again the inherent weakness of an inductive theory then asserted itself. And Newtonian science found itself faced with a series of problems for which it had no answers. So then the present day inventive science took over.

When an idea, or a set of ideas gains general acceptance and becomes a familiar feature of thought, its origins recede from view, now I wouldn't be surprised that you may be reluctant to accept the idea that the basic theories of modern day physics, such as the relativity theory for example, belong in the same category as the Ptolemaic theory of planetary orbits. But they were all inventive theories. The originators of the present day theories don't deny that, in fact they emphasise it. We might even say they glory in it. Einstein told us that pure invention is the "only way by which these basic principles can be obtained". He was highly critical of Newton’s attempt to ascertain them inductively. Here is what he said "Newton believed that the basic laws and concepts of his system could be derived from experience. The tremendous practical successes of his doctrines may well have prevented him and the physicists of the 18th and 19th centuries from recognising the fictitious character of his system". Einstein's own view was that the basic concepts and laws of physics, what I am calling the fundamentals are quote "in a logical sense free inventions of the human mind". He elaborates this view in these statements that I have taken from his book the "World as I see it".


"Since However space perception only gives information of this external world of physical reality indirectly we can only grasp the latter by speculative means. The theoretical scientist is compelled in an increasing degree to be guided by purely mathematical, formal considerations, in his search for a theory, because the physical experience of the experimenter cannot lift him into the regions of highest abstraction. The axiomatic basis of theoretical physics cannot be an inference from experience but must be free invention". There is a rather general tendency to believe that Einstein and the other architects of modern physics could not have been as casual about the foundations of their system as these words indicate. That they must have been tied into something solid somewhere, but that’s not true as Rudolf Carnap puts it "they were constructed flowing the air so to speak". Einstein gives us enough information about the origin of his own theories to make it clear when he talks about free inventions he means free inventions, nothing else.

For instance the propagation of electromagnetic radiation plays a very significant part in his theories, and the comments that he made about the theory that he invented to account for that propagation have a considerable bearing on what we are talking about now. In one of his books he goes on at considerable length about what a difficult problem this is and he concludes with this statement "I only way out seems to be to take for granted the fact that space has the physical property of transmitting electromagnetic waves and not to bother too much with the meaning of this statement".

The point of all this is, that all invented theories share the same defect they are all mathematically correct but they are all conceptually wrong, not because of any errors in the construction, but because of their inherent characteristics. Now this statement may seem to be in direct conflict with many of the confident assertions we find in present day scientific literature that tells us that the validity of present day theories have been established beyond any reasonable doubt. But if you look at the evidence in support of those assertions, you will find that it is all mathematical. What has been done is to establish that those theories are mathematically correct, just as I have said all along that they are - because of the way they were constructed. But those theories that are mathematically correct are not unique, none of them are. In every case there are other theories that are also mathematically correct and as Richard Feynman tells us "we can’t distinguish between any two of them on any scientific basis and say which is correct because they both agree with experiment to the same extent. So two theories, although they may have deeply different ideas behind them maybe mathematically identical, then there is no scientific way to distinguish them.

Now Feynman goes on to say this "Every theoretical physicist who is any good knows 6 or 7 theoretical representations for exactly the same kind of physics". What Feynman does not say that those statements only apply to the present day and other day inventive theories. They do not apply to inductive theories - that is theories that have been derived by induction from factual premises. For example the kinetic theory of gases is a theory that relates to gas laws to the motions of the particles that compose the gas. No one tells us that he has half a dozen equally valid representations for what the kinetic theory tells us, in fact there is not another one alternative - because the kinetic theory is an inductive theory that is tied into the facts both mathematically and physically, so that it is both conceptually and mathematically correct. Whereas the inventive theories are correct mathematically only. Now that raises an interesting philosophical question as to whether there is actually any net gain by using these inventive theories during a period when we would have otherwise have no theories at all to account for some important physical phenomenon. Actually we don't need them, we could equally well use the mathematical explanations we have, without any theoretical explanation. So the whole thing boils down to a question as to whether it is better to have a wrong theory than no theory at all. Now there is a very widespread belief that that’s true, that it is better to have a wrong theory and it dates back to at least Sir Francis Bacon. The idea behind it is that a plausible theory, even if it is wrong, may suggest some lines of inquiry that in the end will be productive, on the other hand we know that continued adherence to the Greek inventive theories particularly during the last few years of the Greek era was a very serious roadblock in the way of scientific process, and we have pretty good reason for believing that much the same is going on now. In any event the fact that needs to be recognised at the moment is that we have again arrived at a kind of situation that existed in the middle ages, the present day inventive theories have accumulated too many epicycles, and at the same time inductive theory has caught up with observation and experiment so that as we enter the 21st century shortly we are in a position to GO BACK FROM THE INVENTIVE THEORY to a SOLIDLY BASED INDUCTIVE THEORY AGAIN. Now the eminence of such a change could be deduced simply from an examination of the times involved in the cycle of reversals that I have been talking about. The first inductive theories lasted for thousands of years before they were overthrown by the Greek inventive science. Now that the first of the inventive sciences indulged for 2500 years before it met its fate at the hands of Newtonian inductive science. The accelerating pace of science is shown by the fact that in spite of its greatly superior character, the science that’s normally associated with the name of Newton only lasted for 400 years before it in turn succumbed to the "2nd inventive science" now if we consider the same rate of acceleration we can see that since another 100 years have passed we are about due for another reversal that will take us back into an inductive theory, but we don't have to depend entirely on inferences of that kind because there is plenty of direct evidence to show that we are again in exactly the same kind of situation in which Greek science found itself during the middle ages. At which point the accumulation of epicycles had reached the point of absurdity in a great many cases, and the quantum theories have a long history of one ad-hoc modification or interpretation after another, until it's very questionable now if the theory is even intelligible. In fact Richard Feynman says "it isn’t". Feynman says this "I think I can safely say that nobody understands Quantum Mechanics".

The situation in the field of atomic structure is much the same the favourite past time there is inventive properties for the illusive particles called quarks. Now nobody has seen or otherwise observed a quark or anything that could be a quark. In fact the most urgent problem for the theorists right now is to invent some theory in which it can be said that the quarks are inherently unobservable, but nevertheless we are told just what kind of quarks could exist and what their properties are. Such interesting properties as colour, charm and so on. In order to fit this situation into the proper perspective lets bear in mind that not only are the quarks themselves unobservable but the particles that are supposed to be constructed out of quarks have never been observed either. now those particles are given familiar names such as electrons for instance but the hypothetical electron constituent of the atom has a doubly different set of properties from the OBSERVED electron, and there is actually no adequate justification for calling them by the same name. The same is true for the other hypothetical constituents, the hypothetical neutron constituent of the atom for instance has to be "stable" or else the observed neutron is very much unstable. The truth is that there is no definite evidence that the atom is constructed of particles at all, now that may seem to be rank heresy but a great many of our foremost scientists have said the same thing in different words. For instance Erwin Schrodinger "once we have become aware of this state of affairs, the epistemological question do the electrons really exist in these orbits within the atom is to be answered with a decisive NO unless we prefer to say that the putting of the question itself has absolutely no meaning. Here we have a good example of the difference between induction and invention, in the construction of a theory. Since I am making this my principle point I want to elaborate on it a little.

Such men as Newton and Einstein were very much aware of that difference. Newton insisted time and time again that he did not resort to invention. Einstein on the contrary criticised Newton for trying to get his theories inductively. I am afraid that a great many people do not recognise the difference because they both start in the same way. The both start with a hypothesis. That is the only way we are going to end up with something more general than we already have. But the Newton’s looked upon that hypothesis of something to be tested, and they test that hypothesis and if it doesn’t fit the facts they throw it out and try a new hypothesis or at least a greatly modified hypothesis, they test that and if that doesn’t work they try another one. The Einstein’s take that hypothesis and test it and if it doesn't work they invent something to make it work, and if that doesn't work quite right they invent something to help the first invention make it work. You may think I'm being funny on this, but if you read Einstein yourself he tells you exactly that same thing in different words he says it "has to be pure invention". But that's the difference between induction and invention. In the one case it is HYPOTHESIS TEST DISCARD HYPOTHESIS TEST DISCARD until we finally don’t have to discard, and in the other case it is HYPOTHESIS TEST INVENT TEST INVENT until we get something we don’t have to invent anymore.

When it was first discovered that atoms disintegrate under certain appropriate conditions and emit particles in so doing, it was a very natural hypothesis that the atoms were constructed of such particles, but now we have found out that those particles do not have the properties that are necessary to be constituents of atoms we have a totally different situation. We no longer have any justification for inventing something that we can find no base of.

But the general opinion still stands that this , these atoms, must be constructed of particles. The present day theories are obsessed with the idea that they have to keep on dividing and sub dividing until they get to something they can call an elementary particle. In fact the whole situation with the physical particles is beginning to resemble the status of the flees and that popular little verse. Big flees have little flees upon their backs to bight them, the little flees have still smaller flees. The impetus for this frantic search for an elementary particle of matter, comes from the present day concept of the nature of the universe - which sees it as one in which the basic entities are elementary particles of matter existing in a framework provided by space and time. But the modern discovery that matter can be converted into non matter and vice versa has completely destroyed that concept. It is now obvious that matter cannot be the basic constituent. That there must be some common denominator underlying matter and non matter. And since that is the situation there must be some level below which matter does not exist, and that which exists , is this common denominator, whatever it is, for the moment let’s call it x. This again is nothing particularly heretical, some of our foremost scientists have emphasised it quite strongly. Heisenberg for instance was very clear on the subject and tried to figure out what this entity x could be, he suggests energy but he has no idea he admits or did admit, how energy could fit the bill.

Let’s consider further this question of inventive vs. inductive theories and how they sound now. At the beginning of this century when the modern inventive theory took over from Newtonian inductive science, the necessary information for constructing a inductive theory, that would account for the new discoveries that had been made around that time was entirely inadequate. The information that could be collected was not enough to extend the existing inductive theories into what we may call the far out regions. The regions of the very fast, the very small, and the very large. There were a few of the essential building blocks in place. The discrete nature of the units of energy had already been established. Radioactivity had already been discovered, and the status of electrical current as a movement of "electrons" had been determined, but there was still an immense amount of information that had to be collected before an inductive theory was capable of being extended into these far out regions, could be constructed. That information has now been accumulated and the final inductive step that was necessary in order to construct the theory that would extend into all these regions has been taken by the development that is the subject of discussion at this conference.


That development like a great many other results of scientific research was a totally unexpected result at a project aimed at an entirely different objection. The original objective was to construct a theory or some means whereby physical properties could be calculated from the chemical composition. IN some respects, it is not a very good subject for examination, because it’s been very thoroughly combed over by previous investigators, but on the other hand it is also something that has a definite answer, because obviously those physical properties are determined by the chemical composition. I want to say at this point that while I may be regarded as a heretic that’s not be intonation, I started from a purely conventional base and my first work was directed entirely along conventional lines, the base from which I started was the idea that is embodied in the periodic table, the idea that the principle properties of the chemical elements are determined by two variables represented horizontally and vertically in the tables. The first really important advance that I made at least that is important in view of what turned up later on, was the finding that one of these variables takes both POSITIVE and NEGATIVE values, whereas the other one takes POSITIVE values only.

When after a good deal of traditional trial and error I found that there were actually 3 variables rather than two. Now whilst all these efforts to determine the form of the mathematical relations were going on, I was also struggling to determine the meaning of the terms of those relations, that is the other essential for an inductive theory, one that will be conceptually valid. Here again I didn't stray off the reservation for quite a while. I started from the purely conventional idea that the atom is made up of a group of particles and that the properties and the differences in properties between the elements are due to differences in the number an arrangement of those particles, but after some years of work I got nowhere. Exactly nowhere. So I had to try some different approach or quit the job. I tried a number of things and discarded them, the old trial and error process. And finally I got the idea that perhaps some of the differences in the properties might be due to different properties due to motions of the particles, rather than the differences in the actual number and arrangement of the particles themselves, and well that didn't work either, but in the process there were some indications that I might be on the right track, so I didn't throw that away immediately, and I worked on it. And as I worked on it, the more emphasis I put on the motions and the less emphasis I put on the number of particles the more of these indications there were I was getting somewhere. So eventually I simply discarded the idea that the motions might account for some of the properties in the atoms, but they might account for all of the properties in the atoms. Now that was the first really radical conceptual jump that I had made in the whole project, and it led to some important consequences. Since I had determined that there were only three main variables, then if we attributed them to motions, it follows that they must be motions of the atom, rather than large motions of constituents. Then one comes to the conclusion that the motions of the atom, and then of objects of that kind almost certainly be rotations, and the number 3 then suggested that these were rotations around 3 perpendicular axis.
In that event the differences in the magnitudes of the properties can be very easily explained in the differences in the speed of rotation. SO I have come then to the point then of an atom constructed entirely of motions with 3 rotational motions around the 3 perpendicular axis and different speeds in the different dimensions. SO I had identified this quantity x, quantity x is motion. When we subdivide matter we subdivide down to a certain point which we find is the atom, and we subdivide further and we have motion, not matter. With this understanding of the general nature of the atom, of matter, the stage was set for the final conceptual jump in this inductive phase of the original project.

In the work I had done in some 20 years or so up to this time I would arrive at some rather interesting mathematical expressions connecting some of the physical properties of matter, with the atomic numbers, now all I had to do was connect the atomic numbers to motions, this was another long and difficult task, and was very often a frustrating task but it finally dawned on me one day that one of the most interesting of these expressions, one that connected the inter atomic distances in the solid state, or the atomic number, could be very easily and simply explained if I assumed a general reciprocal relation between space and time. Now those of you are encountering this idea for the first time my find it rather weird. So did I , I can quite understand how you might feel that way. In fact when I first thought of it, the idea of a reciprocal of space struck me as about as reasonable as the idea of a reciprocal of a soft boiled egg. But when I took a second look at it, it wasn't so unreasonable after all, the only relation between space and time of which we have any knowledge is motion, and in motion space and time are reciprocally related. So of course having come that far I had to go on farther and see what else I could put this relation to use with. And very much to my surprise it was almost immediately evident that this relation gives us the answers, simple and logical answers to no less than a half a dozen of the longstanding problems of science. Now any of you who have ever done research work will realise this is the kind of a breakthrough that we see in our most rosy dreams, and obviously it called for an immediate start on a full scale investigation to see how far this clarification could go, or physical picture would extend. By the time of my first publication in 1959, I had arrived at a set of two postulates from which it is possible, I showed then that it was possible to derive the principle features of the major branches of physical science by pure deduction without any supplementary assumptions and without drawing on anything from experience. In the meantime, the members of this organisation that are meeting here today and other scientists around the world joined in this effort, and we have extended the scope of the theory to the point where we now feel fairly confident that we will ultimately reach the goal that the Newtonian scientists were aiming at and couldn’t quite make, that is a general explanation of the physical universe.

For those who shudder at the thought of having to reconstruct all of the scientific ideas I want to say that probably 90% of what passes for scientific knowledge today will be incorporated into our new system without any significant change other than perhaps the language in which the ideas are expressed. Another 5% will take only a change in the interpretation of the mathematics, because the mathematics is OK, and another 5% or so we will have to reconstruct. And all of those items are in what I call the "far out regions" , regions where the scientific theory are having difficulty with now.

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Patents & Copyright Buying & Selling Your Nature
an excerpt from page 96 of Technology For a New Future


The science men, political men and business men, the founders and caretakers of this planet and our people, they all can agree in telling us that everything is right about patenting and copyrighting one‘s idea. I have noticed that all of my ideas, and not just my best ideas do not come from me, they come from a keen observation of nature and their systems and so it has always seemed backwards to me that an observed effect present in the universe, that is then recreated by me in ingenuity can be monopolized to my name and my personal effects as if I possessed the very currents of the rain and the thunder. One might scoff at such a basic description, but if every invention, and thus copyrighted trademark and patent, is based on a natural system that already exists, then ownership was taken of the nature and then it was sold back to the people. In my mind this can never be right; this is like taking the land from underneath the elephants and asking them to pay for their industrial revolution that is land ownership. This sort of copying and segregation of nature is like stealing the electricity from the sky, and charging the rain for it. There can be no glory or logic in copying nature and claiming it as our own, there can be only our own greed and our own money, because of this my care for patents and copyrights is limited to the means by which they can be useful as ideas, and not by this apparent and fictional connection with the ownership of natural effects and the fictional material power that is contained within their so-called patent exploitation, and, so-called intellectual protection offered by them, condemning surely any man without a penny to a life of pain and regret, and those men of wealth and material ideology, that of the greatest ignorance and greed. Had they thought ahead, they would realise that there can be no profit in others doom.

Indeed, the only thing that man truly owns is his tendency to claim as his what he observed, and to build a machine based on it that nobody else can have without paying a fee. Other men to enforce it to ensure that the barbarity and the suppression of this great planet nations venturing into the far reaches of space, and accomplishing worthwhile endeavors. The thing that is enforced is akin to a prison. Where men whom could make a difference are unable to afford to make anything of it, and the ones who cannot make any difference but preserve the hypocrisy that exists is able to afford to make anything that he so chooses. And so the blind are leading the capable, and the capable are unable to lead the blind – and this is what we call free enterprise. The condemnation of other men because of one man‘s good thought and observation, and the exploitation of them for money represents a high discourtesy that will one day be a criminal action not unlike slave labour. These same men condemn the very idea of a student copying another‘s work, a high intellectual sin, yet, this is what we see in the highest of scientific and engineering thinking today – copying natures work, and claiming it as his own.

About the man that deserves the Nobel Prize: He is the man that deserves the Nobel Prize. That man is Tesla. That man is Eric Dollard. The Nobel Prize is not for them. Irrespective of their contributions of an electrical system with 0 losses - that can transmit to any point in the universe. Telluric waves they call it. There will be no Nobel Prize for them. It‘s just too damn useful and practical, it‘d be hard to sell anything afterwards.

By Adam Bull

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The Stars, Their Planets. The Plants & Their Animals
An excerpt of Technology For a New Future, page 112

The sun creates light rays from above and they are dropped below to the earth. The earth has the plants and they take up the light rays and they convert some of the light into their mass. So the sun converted its mass into light energy and the sun is in deconstruction, the plant converted the light energy into its mass in construction. Then the animal comes along, and eats the plant and drops it below into his stomach, acid there deconstructs the mass of the plant, and releases the energy. So the plant uses the energy of the light to magnetically bond its mass together, and the animals stomach uses the acid to take the light energy back out of the plant. Animals that do not believe their survival depends on the light going in the plant should go to Africa and ask the farmers to grow food for energy and surviving without the light. The truth is there is no energy without the light. And if there was not light, there would not even be petrol. So the same thing that is driving your car and your batteries, is also driving you and all the life of all kinds on this planet and in the universe. It is the light.

The sun giving off the light rays in energy lost some of its mass in its deconstruction and the earth gains some of its energy for its perpetual construction and transformation. Einstein tells us that energy and the mass are exchangeable, and, they are exchangeable by the constant square ratio of light. So the suns energy is converted into supposed-light. The plants turn the light into energy by constructing its matter. The animal eats the plant, and so it takes apart the energy in the bonds that were put together by the sun, and the acid in the animals stomach is working like a battery. The light rays from the sun are working like a radio. And the plants themselves, they are acting like transformers. The plants will perpetually create new mass from the sunlight , at the square ratio of light to the energy gradient of light provided. The animals will perpetually live and grow their mass from the sunlight too. It was the sunlight remember that built up the mass of the plant. So without the light to build the mass of the plant, the animals cannot eat the mass of the plant or other animals. So the real thing that gave the plant its mass was the light. We know this is true because the plant cannot built it‘s mass without the light. So the animal cannot unbuild the mass and take the energy the light put in it without the plant. And that is why the light creates the animals and the plants, and not the plants and then the animals. I am not saying that there was a plan, I am saying that the light is how the energy is taken by the plant and the animal. So plant is taking the energy from the light to build itself up, and the animals take the energy from the plants built up mass, to get the energy to build themselves.

Many are wondering how it was possible for the plants to start at all. The minerals and vitamins. These vitamins build their mass up from the light. You will find the vitamins and minerals in the plants now. The vitamins and minerals are created by the plant. So if the light going in the plant can build up the minerals and the vitamins mass in the plant, then it bares common sense that vitamins and minerals that were created from light alone made up the first plant. Darwin and his evolution theory, it is not wrong. It is basic. My theory is much more basic than his but look how far mine went. This is the difference between discovery and patience. Darwin speaks about species. MY theory talks about the universe and how it designed minerals, then plants, and then how the larger animals could derive their energy from them, and where the energy to take Darwin‘s evolutionary process came from. Whilst Darwin‘s Evolution theory tells how the environment cause & effects the species and they are naturally selected by that environment. My evolution theory shows how the cause and effects of the environment are varied by cosmological constants. So my theory bears a resemblance to Einstein‘s, Tesla‘s and Darwins without a large degree of bias or condemnation. All observation is correct, but all definitions are never what was observed. For to explain what was observed would require a comprehension as great as the universe. Or God.

By Adam Bull

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CRIMINALS & THE GOOD LITTLE BOY that never came to prosper
An article written by Adam Bull

i feel that patents are criminal, they are not free enterprise at all, they represent the struggling vestige that is man. When one is ignored continuously such as Tesla was, and his basic models, the remarkable question to the inventor or natural philosopher is, that it is suffered by the truth of his own ignorance or that of his surrounding men. I see how Tesla must have felt. I explained a theory , a working theory for manipulating gravity by sufficiently shielding it from cosmic rays. I see this was missed. I should say ignored, as was all of the remarkable work of Tesla. I hear people talking about electrons like a matter of fact. The truth is nobody has ever seen an electron, not now, or ever. In fact electrons are only produced by the dielectric 2 pole condition found in all conductors.

The proof is very simple, the electron with mass going in point A start of transmission line cannot travel at the speed of light. So the electron conveyor belt of motion traveling at the speed of light out of point B, the end of the transmission line can be held to account on the perpetual electron motion of non electrified atoms.

All atoms have spinning negative bound charges on them. It is so simple. No battery could generate any charge if the iron atoms were not moving already, and the zinc atoms were moving already. As well as the Acid.

Here we have proof that perpetual motion of atoms is responsible for the speed of light charges.

Just as Dollard and Tesla claimed.

Why on earth is it so easily missed I seriously fail to fathom, my patience for society runs short. What hope can there be for people who dismiss ideas suggested by pioneers, even amateur ones such as myself, using non existent particles as a basis of description.

Electrons are produced by 2 poles, or rather resistance, in the same way a light bulb produces light from 2 currents. Yes, 2 currents. It's not electrons doing the work as I have previously explained time and time again. Does this disagree with the pi /2 *C constant? No, it rather remarkably confirms it.

My apologies for my rant. My heart is with you all, but if people's minds are governed by non existent inventions, there is little hope for inductive scientists such as myself. Very little hope.

Eric will send my letter and package to you shortly.

Jesus spends his life in hell. But I am not Jesus or governed by invented ideas of religion or science. I like, Eric, am just an ordinary man that has given up everything and encouraged a life of almost penniless servitude, trying to do the right thing. The story of the good boy that never came to prosper by Mark Twain does come to mind. And I feel as if we are all surrounded by people who are the embodiment of the bad little boy that never came to grief.

That is the problem with electrons. They never come to grief. They only return back to where they came from. Bohr and Einstein.

Here is some real criminal activity sometimes mistaken for forward thinking science, or even something as ridiculous as to be called "free enterprise".

IT never fooled me for a minute. We have betrayed ourselves and called it logical scientific debate. And rejected truth and called it fallacy and hearsay, using nothing but the inventions of einsteinian fallacy itself. Many electrical men here should be ashamed of themselves, and others should work harder to help Eric as I and others such as Techzombie do. Fools quoting non existent electrons accusing fallacy reaches no bounds and represents the most intolerable handicap of such great men as Eric, Tesla, Reich, Carson & Leedskalnin.

By Adam Bull


The Unexplained Power Station Explosions


―This really led to a lot of confusion in the early attempts of G.E laboratories to ascertain why these complex wave forms they were experiencing in their substation transformers were causing them to explode for unexplainable reasons. The standing waves would build up and appear at the centre of the windings and puncture the insulation but yet from terminal to terminal there was no voltage difference. The process was basically started off by Steinmetz. And then Buley which was the one that really developed all the differential equations for describing this stuff kind of forgot about mutual inductance and its proper dimensions, and even though quantified all of these things very admirably in his book called traveling waves on transmission systems, probably one of the best books on electric waves ever written, he still failed to understand the true nature of the longitudinal wave and the dimensionality of mutual inductance. Now of course at the double energy flows when these things combine we have the longitudinal wave, the wave of Tesla and the transverse electromagnetic wave, the wave of hertz. The hertz wave is the wave we use today for transmission, the longitudinal wave has been completely forgotten, unless it incidentally appears in case you have too big of a loading coil".


- Eric Dollard, SBARC Ham Radio Conference



The Holistic system of Electrical Systems and the Extinct "Shamanic" Representation of Nature
Thanks to the crimes of the church and the west globalist agendas to "bring science to all"

All they brought was death and the destruction of sacred art and knowledge, even civilisations. Anybody who disagree's with this and has trust in his government looking after him should seek advice from a Native American Indian.

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Dewey B Larson (Transcription)
The best lost lecture on Scientific Theory Ever

5000 years ago when the invention of writing on clay tablets by the Sumerians first gave the human race an opportunity to make a permanent record of its thoughts and actions.
The above lecture can also be found at THE FUNDAMENTALS OF SCIENCE IN THE TWENTY-FIRST CENTURY, by Dewey B. Larson, Principal Address to the Third Annual NSA Conference, University of Utah, Salt Lake City, August 18, 1978 (http://www.reciprocalsystem.com/lec/larlect1978.htm)

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"It's Einstein's denial of existences of speeds greater than light which has led to the trouble that science is now experiencing, in what I call the 'far out region'. It's that error that has caused science theory to far exceed science fiction, with all its black holes, its neutron stars, it's electrons. Hurtless destroyers of pleasant illusions. There is one happy thought I want to leave my associates with, and that even though our predecessors in the middle ages were challenging thoroughly inferenced and established inventive thought, we are not going to meet the same end as those people, we are not likely to get thrown in jail or burnt at the stake, thank you." - Dewey B. Larson

Oh Mr. Larson, if only you were right about it not being like the middle ages. If only. Unfortunately people are still getting thrown in jail or "burnt at the stake" for claiming faster than light wave propagation's. Not just Tesla's lab and Eric Dollards RCA equipment being destroyed and bulldozed by police. No, nothing to see here. Everything is fine at Einstein Royale. Once you go in, you never come out. Move on or you will be arrested for questioning the bull**** of modern science.

[7redorbs]

Universal Constructor, a short story by Adam Bull

The universal constructor is an unusual kind of device. Most of all and especially to all the academics. It is in fact not in any of the academic books. It bears such the unusual title of the undiscovered virtue. What is this undiscovered virtue the academics hiss. It is the undiscovered sciences the laboratory man replies.

It is not like any other device, except for the universe. It can create many things, like many of the planets of the universe can. Minerals, plants, and animals are one of the things, but mostly what it can do is turn the light of the stars into something assuredly material and solid. The professor remarked "It turns the light particles into the neutral matter particles".

Nature responded earnestly "The constructor is really a simple thing, and is quite ordinary, but some of the things this universal constructor has made have invented quite unusual things and called them current sciences". Nature never could understand how it's creations could be so wise. For nature had built the wise and he wondered what it was that was not universal about them and their inventions.

"Oh yes the constructor it is universal and quite ordinary". Ordinary, and most in particular - peculiar in nature. The laboratory professor was quite unimpressed by the remark. The chemists and the biologists trumpeted to the harsh sounds of eggs being crushed, it was not the lack of birth from them, but it was the singular viciousness of the inventors footsteps that crushed it so readily. And then nature wept with all it's heart.

Nature angry in it's association channeled a deep blue bolt of lightning into the professors head, and it accompanied 7 red shades of colour. It spoke.

"My friend, in your mind, and heart and soul of kernasera mendoi hajuoi kloj. You should know."

The professor looked so baffled. Until nature got angry. "The chemical reactions in the atoms, the hormones and receptors and neurons in your brain, the central nervous system, the chemical battery, and the electrical transmission line, your inventions and your being, your consciousness and your soul is controlled by me." The professor said but why do I anger you? . Nature furiously responded "I ANGER YOU , for you are cruel to me." Nature continued "everything is universal, and I give it motion, so that your chemicals can create electricity, your inventions can carry current, and your machines can build crafts, so that your mind and nervous system can carry messages of pain and joy, and feelings of resentment and cruelty. What of it?". The chemists could not half believe themselves, and the biologists looked upset aswell, the physicists most of all could not understand how motion could do anything. They already knew about motion. It seemed preposterous that motion could fuel every chemical reaction, every implosion, every explosion, every thought of consciousness, and even dictate the very light speed reactions. Totally alien they considered it.

The universal constructor is a miracle of device, it can create parts from the light of stars in the most universal way, and transmit them at great distance, or I should say without regard to it whatsoever. Natures creations hissed "entanglement". Nature laughed and said, "you should not laugh unless you wish to be laughed at , you are half - that is what you are, but I am all". The greatest professor entered and said "light instead of being turned into the neutral particles of life, and instead of being turned into the volcanoes and mountains and crystals , diamonds , golds and various rocks from various currents, can instead be wirelessly channeled into this electrical device that I have here". He continued "This electrical device is like a small planet, assembling your inventions of minerals and life, and electricity, from the motion of the stars, and that is what the universal constructor can do. It can make all things from light. All things are magnets, so there is no problem".

The greatest thing about this miracle of universal construction is that it could turn so much energy from the wireless stars , that it could create things for free. Factory parts, bricks for housing, silicon and glass windows. All entirely automatically and all electrically derived in the same way that wind and dam power does, but it was direct. Totally direct. The great professor from this virtu-ed planet finaliZed his remark "all from motion of current, all of it and this device knows that like my very friend nature". He helped me destroy famine, poverty, greed & war, in that order. Thanks be to him. Thanks be to the universal constructor.

"Nature replied, the invention of my great self and my great universe was for you to observe. I can victor that you would copy me. As I copied nothing to make you, but the sky and below, the land and the above. I am you and you are me. I am all things. I am the universal consciousness, current, motion and electricity, i am all things. I am ATOM."

Universal Constructors
19975

[7redorbs]

Edward Leedskalnin’s Cosmic Force
by Edward Leedskalnin, from Miami Daily circa 1946, also on page 140 of Technology For a New Future

“COSMIC FORCE: Here is additional information for those who read my advertisement in The Miami Daily News, February 3rd, 1946. The North and South pole individual magnets are the cosmic force. They are the building blocks of nature's perpetual transformation of matter, and they are so small that they can pass through everything. They pass through the earth from pole to pole, and around the earth.
If the North and South Pole individual magnets could not pass through a vacuum tube the same as the Thompson’s electrons cannot, then they could not be the building blocks. The Thomson electrons are very small parts of matter which come out of the cathode while the cathode is burned up or consumed in the vacuum tube.

Without the general circulation of the building blocks there would be no change. Everything would remain in the same way as it is now. The building blocks from a matter that go to pieces could not get in the general circulation for the new construction.

I think the Radium and Uranium were built up inside the earth with high pressure, and heat, while the North and South pole individual magnets were circulating through the earth. During the time the Radium and Uranium were inside the earth they absorbed more of the individual North and South pole magnets than they normally could hold, and so now while they are on top of the earth they let the magnets go so they can become normal again.

Gravitation must be caused by the matter in the middle of the earth, and more concentrated than Uranium. When Uranium atoms burst they release the North and South pole individual magnets that held the atom together, then the magnets scatter all around, but when the atoms burst in the middle of the earth, and many burst at the same time, they can only run from the middle to the outside.

When the North and South pole magnets are running alongside each other and in the same direction, they have no attraction for the other kind. They only attract if they are running one kind against the other kind. When the magnets are running out of the middle of the earth, as soon as they meet an object they attract it, on account of the fact that in any object there is both kinds of magnets in it.

It can be seen by rubbing hard rubber or glass until they get hot, then they will attract sand, iron filings, salt, and other things. To see how it functions, move a salt crystal a little, if it happens to get on a different magnet pole, then it will jump away. Another way is to rub hard rubber until it gets hot, then it will be a temporary magnet.
The difference between the rubber magnet and the steel magnet is that the magnet in the rubber comes from the magnets that hold together the rubber, and both North and South poles are in the same side of the rubber and the magnet poles are small and there are many of them close together, but in the steel bar the attracting magnet is not the magnet that holds together the steel, but the surplus magnets the circulating magnet that was put in it.”

“Attract the iron filings with the rubber magnet, then approach with the steel magnet. Change the poles, then you will see some of the filings jump away. This means the steel magnet changed the magnet poles in the iron filings, and so they jumped away.” – October 1945, Edward Leedskalnin

[SnowyOwl]

CRIMINALS & THE GOOD LITTLE BOY that never came to prosper
An article written by Adam Bull

i feel that patents are criminal, they are not free enterprise at all, they represent the struggling vestige that is man. When one is ignored continuously such as Tesla was, and his basic models, the remarkable question to the inventor or natural philosopher is, that it is suffered by the truth of his own ignorance or that of his surrounding men. I see how Tesla must have felt. I explained a theory , a working theory for manipulating gravity by sufficiently shielding it from cosmic rays. I see this was missed. I should say ignored, as was all of the remarkable work of Tesla. I hear people talking about electrons like a matter of fact. The truth is nobody has ever seen an electron, not now, or ever. In fact electrons are only produced by the dielectric 2 pole condition found in all conductors.


IT never fooled me for a minute. We have betrayed ourselves and called it logical scientific debate. And rejected truth and called it fallacy and hearsay, using nothing but the inventions of einsteinian fallacy itself. Many electrical men here should be ashamed of themselves, and others should work harder to help Eric as I and others such as Techzombie do. Fools quoting non existent electrons accusing fallacy reaches no bounds and represents the most intolerable handicap of such great men as Eric, Tesla, Reich, Carson & Leedskalnin.

By Adam Bull


The Unexplained Power Station Explosions


―This really led to a lot of confusion in the early attempts of G.E laboratories to ascertain why these complex wave forms they were experiencing in their substation transformers were causing them to explode for unexplainable reasons. The standing waves would build up and appear at the centre of the windings and puncture the insulation but yet from terminal to terminal there was no voltage difference. The process was basically started off by Steinmetz. And then Buley which was the one that really developed all the differential equations for describing this stuff kind of forgot about mutual inductance and its proper dimensions, and even though quantified all of these things very admirably in his book called traveling waves on transmission systems, probably one of the best books on electric waves ever written, he still failed to understand the true nature of the longitudinal wave and the dimensionality of mutual inductance. Now of course at the double energy flows when these things combine we have the longitudinal wave, the wave of Tesla and the transverse electromagnetic wave, the wave of hertz. The hertz wave is the wave we use today for transmission, the longitudinal wave has been completely forgotten, unless it incidentally appears in case you have too big of a loading coil&quot;.
- Eric Dollard, SBARC Ham Radio Conference



The Holistic system of Electrical Systems and the Extinct &quot;Shamanic&quot; Representation of Nature
Thanks to the crimes of the church and the west globalist agendas to &quot;bring science to all&quot;

All they brought was death and the destruction of sacred art and knowledge, even civilisations. Anybody who disagree's with this and has trust in his government looking after him should seek advice from a Native American Indian.

19972

Nay, Adam not extinct but it was in Idle mode but in the last Month the Turtle is getting some fleas out cf IDLE NO MORE Idle no more - First Nations of the American Hemisphere are mad as hell and can't take it anymore http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article33543.htm dle No More is a worldwide indigenous movement started by the First Nations Tribes of Canada as a way to help protect the Constitutional Treaty Rights of the Indian Act. These rights are being threatened by the proposed C-45 Bill. The Bill will significantly decrease tribal leader and community control over decisions related to the land and water use on Indian Reserve lands, the tribal peoples of Canada will have little to no control over how corporations make use of untapped natural resources, specifically on indigenous territory protected under Sovereignty treaties. Attawapiska Chief Theresa Spence began a hunger strike on Dec. 11, 2012. She is asking Prime Minister Stephen Harper to attend a discussion regarding the Bill and treaty rights. Harper has yet to respond. Spence is willing to die for her people's rights. This film documents one of the many events worldwide in support of the Idle No More movement. This event was held in Seattle Washington De. 29, 2012. The film was Directed by Dave Wilson (Brother Ali, Frank Ocean, Atmosphere, Yelawolf, Evidence), Produced by Tulalip tribal member and independent recording artist Brodie Stevens &quot;Redskin&quot; with footage by cameraman Ben Hampton. The film is narrated by author Gyasi Ross and elder Ramona Bennett. The gathering was organized by Lawerence Miguel and James Ole Coyote Sacred Water. Additional music by Redskin. THE FILM - http://metanoia-films.org/human-resources/ We have learned trough horrendous sufferings that the devil in this world is the power principle. We have succeed in abiding to our Traditions of staying in the Trails for Seven Generations and now is the time that we are getting in a different Trail for another Seven Generations. We have told you everything, wether via Sitting Bull smashing the psychopatic horrendous general Custer and his army at the Little BigHorn whose battle epitomizes the clash of cultures - the Native American versus the Euro-American - that is so much a part of our heritage. Our two cultural systems clashed in hundreds of ideological and practical concepts - their ideas of land ownership, properties, ideas of treaties money and boundaries, etc... Sitting Bull, the Métis Riel in Manitoba before being hang by the English, Geronimo, Chief Seatlle, etc.. all has been said and done, look around you, look at what the values you embrace is doing to humans, animals, birds, vegetations, fishes, water, soil, etc... Idle no more, idle no more http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?54096-Idle-no-more-First-Nations-of-the-American-Hemisphere-are-mad-as-hell-and-can-t-take-it-anymore Snowy Owl

[7redorbs]

Excerpts from Technology For a New Future by Adam Bull


The 4 Types of Transmission Paths

19973

1. Dielectric (forgotten) (NON ELECTROMAGNETIC)
2. Longitudinal Dielectric (completely misunderstood, lost) (NON ELECTROMAGNETIC)
3. Magnetic (misunderstood)
4. Electromagnetic (Loved) (incorrectly asserted as the only type thanks to R.C.A and the delusive Hertzian theory)

4. Magneto Dielectric (destroyed by R.C.A and the military government complex)

Remarks: Electromagnetic is a small part of the spectrum of rays.


The 4 Types of Current


1. Alternating Current (Tesla) (Alive and well by necessity)
2. Direct Current (Edison) (alive and well)
3. Impulse Current (TESLA) (DEAD)
4. Oscillating Current (TESLA) (very DEAD)


The 4 Types of Wave Envelopes for the 4 Types of Current and their dimensions
19974

Remarks: Note electromagnetic is only ONE TYPE of wave. NOT all TYPES. as scientists trained with electromagnetic and hertzian systems would profess to claim most incorrectly otherwise. The reason why they claim this is because they assume if it was important it would be of course taught to them. I am sorry to say they are wrong. This has been classified since circa 1917


Interesting note, alternating current isnt more efficient because of the way it's packeted in the transmission line. Alternating Current only appears to carry the current better because in between the alternating cycles electricity is pulled around from the surrounding air. This is fundamentally why aurora borealis and other cosmic ray effects on the atmosphere tend to cause inexplicable explosions at power stations and military and broadcasting electrical installations and other undesirable effects for which an entire litany of documentation can be found on this. Research will reveal that electrical companies have spent billions, and most likely trillions since the early 20th century removing this free energy from stars and suns.

Extra Remarks: These power station overloads, from cosmic rays, they can happen at night, (when the sun is on the other side of the earth). The power station overloads are caused by rays accounted by the solar flare ejections of our sun. But also sometimes they cannot be accounted for. This is unique cosmological events where a great deal of wireless energy, not unlike Tesla's wireless energy interferes and inducts into the transmission line from great cosmological distance. This energy is always available and could likely be used to generate power from about 500KVA up practically. See Eric Dollard Wireless Power and Introduction to Primary Coils, and the tentative research in telluric rays by Eric Dollard. These fields are equivalent to what some new agers called Ley Lines, it represents an ancient knowledge, and upon inspecting the Bolinas Marconi site, still intact, but tagged for immenent destruction to which the loss to man would be incontrovertible, shows the tell tale signs of being aligned to these telluric currents.

And most likely the earth itself was used as an amplifier for these currents in the same way as expressly described above, as the nature of alternating currents in short duration impulse trains (the suppressed lost current type) results in clear and observable overunity effects that could channel power from the moon and the wind, without using any kinetic deriving device such as hydroelectric or windpower plants, this energy can all be obtained, wirelessly, electrically and directly before it moves the trillions of watts of energy in the ocean, or creates the wind and temperature differentials on earth. It can all be obtained directly - indeed, in the same way the exemplar inexplicable power station centre transformer coils tend to explode for no apparent reason - indeed they channeled the cosmic rays from the inside out in a "non hertzian fashion", or a differential would be detected from terminal to terminal.

In fact it is most likely that "spooky action at a distance" the strane quantum effect where an object can effect another literally trillions of light years away instantly will be the power source of the future, and, it could have been much sooner, as I have repeatedly asserted.

I believe such uses remain only in critical defense instrumentation, and that is about it. They are all classified. Like the use of some vacuum tubes,



- Break -


Best Wishes,
Adam Bull

[SnowyOwl]

Well a heartfelt thank you Adam, you have just share a mine of gems to ponder upon. Sincere thanks, there are so many seeds in all this information that some gardens will indeed come out of it. Snowy

[7redorbs]

This is nothing SnowyOwl.


There is so much more. It is coming. If I am allowed to do it.


Best,
A

[SnowyOwl]

The Trail is Narrow indeed, but there is Light at the end of the tunnel, been told that Bill paid the electricity, the Light shall not fade, lets pray tough, that incoming Light ain't a Train, Somehow... Here comes the ''Owl Train''.

[Jean-Luc]

As I'll be away for several weeks, I've prepaired this PDF out of Adam's posts for myself to read it off-grid.

Maybe some people here can find this useful too.

To make things easier to skim through, I added some subtitles.

http://www.vigli.org/Avalon/Tap_on_tap_off_the_tapper_Adam-Bull_June-2012_Jan-2013.pdf

[7redorbs]

Jean Luc,

Thanks for doing this my friend. I really appreciate it and I am sure the people who want to find out more about Wilhelm Reich, Eric Dollard, Nikola Tesla, Edward Leedskalnin and the fallacy of Einstein's speed of light, and mass as a cause of gravity - and - need to hear to understand faster than light, and gravity as NOT a cause, but an effect produced by cosmic rays.

My sincere respect and appreciation,

Best Wishes,
A

[Simonm]

Cheers Adam. Highly informative!

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This is nothing SnowyOwl.


There is so much more. It is coming. If I am allowed to do it.

Best,
A

Bugger if your allowed to do it, just do it my friend. This is fascinating stuff indeed. :)

[Gardener]

Jean-Luc, thank you for putting the file together, I am not able to see it in the post, just a big white space, can you confirm the link should be in the post or should we ask you to send link lol sry idk what's wrong.
I think this knowledge (a copy) needs taking off-grid for preservation too if that's ok with Adam :)

As I'll be away for several weeks, I've prepaired this PDF out of Adam's posts for myself to read it off-grid.

Maybe some people here can find this useful too.

To make things easier to skim through, I added some subtitles.

http://www.vigli.org/Avalon/Tap_on_tap_off_the_tapper_Adam-Bull_June-2012_Jan-2013.pdf

[Jean-Luc]

Jean-Luc, thank you for putting the file together, I am not able to see it in the post, just a big white space, can you confirm the link should be in the post or should we ask you to send link lol sry idk what's wrong.
I think this knowledge (a copy) needs taking off-grid for preservation too if that's ok with Adam :)

Here is the link: http://www.vigli.org/Avalon/Tap_on_tap_off_the_tapper_Adam-Bull_June-2012_Jan-2013.pdf

[7redorbs]

Yes, Jean-Luc , Gardener, peoples of the public


I hereby forfeit the intellectual property of these excerpted pieces of my writing, provided it is distributed without charge or modification,



Best,
A

[Simonm]

I know that this is not electrical, but I thought that this was very interesting article and not too far removed from light speed etc.

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn23050-light-hits-near-infinite-speed-in-silvercoated-glass.html

[7redorbs]

Finally Simonm,

It looks like physics is catching up. These effects are hundreds, if not thousands of years old ;) (faster than light)

Don't worry I have proven it, too !

My god man, you have done well. Exceptional work. Light is intrinsically magnetic in nature when passing through the right lens, as a result an induction of near infinite speed would create an excess of power than would be considered possible by the means of the inductive "cosmic ray"

Best,
A

[7redorbs]

PROTOTYPE DEVICE


Please folks, this is not a trick, but something I encountered. Welcoming explanations. No batteries. No power. Nothing.

If someone can tell me what is going on, I would thank them.

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I have received some shocks off this thing that you just wouldn't believe, with one hand...

Best,
A

[eaglespirit]

Hi Adam and All...Good Evening!

I have been reading through your posts, Adam, that go back a few months as I had missed most all of them while building a two car garage for family and moving around doing other work and not being near a computer regularly.

As you have probably fully surmised by now...most people on the planet do not 'get it' in regards to Your hard work and research and uncovering and writings and demonstrations on video. It probably holds some interest to about 5% on the planet and about 1% would have full interest...these percentages are much higher here at Avalon, of course.

Most people do not care about the how and why of these matters but would become rather excited if they were shown how it works and its application to the freeing-up of their lives in front of them. And I feel many around the world would actually put it together, part by part, piece by piece, themselves, and put it to work if shown on film how to set it up safely and properly. And I understand You are aware of this.

I feel the horse has to be put before the cart here. Your book will not make it happen but Your showing of it powering a small home will. The book will then become a one-of-a-kind top notch informing energy of this energy.

It can be done. The people to help are here and the time to get it out is now.

There is monumentally more to this once it gets put into real evident motion, once and for all, as a fully spiritual/scientific endeavor, together.

[7redorbs]

Just so you know, I sold all the books!

Doubt very much there will be a second edition, ;)

I want to get this over and done with before I am yet again wrongly accused of money mongering or some other appalling crime. To be honest , I like all of you are just trying to earn enough to live and do my work (and coming no where near, I rely on other people to keep me!)

Looks like I will have to get a slavejob anyway. Nobody here I believe bought the book. The book was not supposed to be for everyone. That is not what it was about. (At least for those who suggested otherwise).

I have done this because I was all alone. I had nothing to help me, or guide me, or even comfort me about my instinctive schoolboy thoughts about perpetual motion, but others, of a younger generation will. I experienced that horror, now they won't have to. Which is ultimately why I have done this. No longer will the artist, poet and holistic thinker be ridiculed by scientists. Indeed the scientists will be ridiculed for failing to understand the dimensionality of mutual inductance and the wave envelopes of Tesla, and wrongly asserted that no other wave form than Hertzian exists, or that nothing could travel fundamentally faster than light.

They will now not be alone. They will have something, and this was the plan.

Even if it is a few, it shall be enough to ensure that my work lives on!

A personal friend wrote to me complaining that this information in my book wasn't free. He of course failed to note the book cost me $70 to produce. That I had given up a career, two infact, and been permanently dedicated to this problem and setting up my own publisher for some year now, Net loss to do this was about £31,000

I used to work at Sega Europe and contract for the MOD :D If anything I've lost an incredible amount of money. As you might note, I obviously don't seem to care very much, because I've done the work and did what I could.

I hope that it will be enough,

With what little money I have, I will continue to do my research as best I can. Sharing my insights as I go, and that of my contemporaries particularly the brilliant and unrewarded destitute homeless polymath Eric Dollard.

I will also share schematics of my experimental prototypes with all people willing to create their own. I never could and doubt I ever will at this standard be able to build the large generator, not through a lack of willingness or engineering faith, or technical understanding of detail instinct or logical reasoning, but by a limit of capital.

Others who can afford it can build it. I will help them where I can. Or they can buy the parts and I can help them some how building it. It is worth noting this is experimental work and is non ohmic, and non kircchoffian in nature, and therefore no proper maths except that of Dollard and Tesla explains it sufficiently, of course all of which is lost to most academic electronic, electrician and physics engineers,

More to come. Sorry if the slight despair still shines through, but , it's all true, all of it. I don't want your sympathy or your money, or for you to buy the book. I want you guys to wake up.

Perpetual motion and perpetual power, and free energy have been around the corner for quite some time, at the end of the 19th century electricians were certain it was just coming around the corner... What happened?

Simple answer. R.C.A. Please everyone do your research and rebuild the magneto dielectric apparatus and the multiple loaded flat top antenna, and see for yourself what earth or telluric current can do, this is the goal. To get people informed and involved. Nothing else. Oh, except for me to perhaps continue the work :)




Best,
A

[7redorbs]

The Black Box

Himself an Austrian military man and a trained aviator, Mr. Savo was extremely opened about certain long-cherished incidents in which his uncle's genius was consistently made manifest. Mr. Savo reported that in 1931, he participated in an experiment involving aetheric power. Unexpectedly, almost inappropriately, he was asked to accompany his uncle on a long train ride to Buffalo. A few times in this journey, Mr. Savo asked the nature of their journey. Dr. Tesla remained unwilling to disclose any information, speaking rather directly to this issue. Taken into a small garage, Dr. Tesla walked directly to a Pierce Arrow, opened the hood and began making a few adjustments. In place of the engine, there was an AC motor. This measured a little more than 3 feet long, and a little more than 2 feet in diameter. From it trailed two very thick cables, which connected with the dashboard. In addition, there was an ordinary 12-volt storage battery. The motor was rated at 80horsepower. Maximum rotor speed was stated to be 30 turns per second. A 6-foot antenna rod was fitted into the rear section of the car.

Dr. Tesla stepped into the passenger side and began making adjustments on a "power receiver" which had been built directly into the dashboard. The receiver, no larger than a short-wave radio of the day, used 12 special tubes, which Dr. Tesla brought with him in a box-like case. Mr. Savo told Mr. Ahler that Dr. Tesla built the receiver in his hotel room, a device 2 feet in length, nearly 1 foot wide, and 1/2 foot high. These curiously constructed tubes having been properly installed in their sockets, Dr. Tesla pushed in 2 contact rods and informed Mr. Savo that power was now available to drive. Several additional meters read values, which Dr. Tesla would not explain. No sound was heard. Dr. Tesla handed Mr. Savo the ignition key and told him to start the engine, which he promptly did. Yet hearing nothing, the accelerator was applied, and the car instantly moved. Tesla's nephew drove this vehicle without other fuel for an undetermined long interval. Mr. Savo drove a distance of 50 miles through the city and out to the surrounding countryside. The car was tested to speeds of 90 mph, with the speedometer rated to 120.

After a time, and with increasing distance from the city itself, Dr. Tesla felt free enough to speak. Having now become sufficiently impressed with the performance of both his device and the automobile. Dr. Tesla informed his nephew that the device could not only supply the needs of the car forever, but could also supply the needs of a household "with power to spare". When originally asked how the device worked, Tesla was initially adamant and refused to speak. Many who have read this "apocryphal account" have stated it to be the result of an "energy broadcast". This misinterpretation has simply caused further confusions concerning this stage of Tesla's work. He had very obviously succeeded in performing, with this small and compact device, what he had learned in Colorado and Shoreham.

As soon as they were on the country roads, clear of the more congested areas, Tesla began to lecture on the subject. Of the motive source he referred to "a mysterious radiation, which comes out of the aether". The small device very obviously and effectively appropriated this energy. Tesla also spoke very glowingly of this providence, saying of the energy itself that "it is available in limitless quantities". Dr. Tesla stated that although "he did no know where it came from, mankind should be very grateful for its presence". The two remained in Buffalo for 8 days, rigorously testing the car in the city and countryside. Dr. Tesla also told Mr. Savo that the device would soon be used to drive boats, planes, trains, and other automobiles. Once, just before leaving the city limits, they stopped at a streetlight and a bystander joyfully commented concerning their lack of exhaust fumes. Mr. Savo spoke up whimsically, saying that they had "no engine". They left Buffalo and traveled to a predetermined location, which Dr. Tesla knew, an old farmhouse barn some 20 miles from Buffalo. Dr. Tesla and Mr. Savo left the car in this barn, took the 12 tubes and the ignition key, and departed.

Later on, Mr. Savo heard a rumor that a secretary had spoken candidly about both the receiver and the test run, being promptly fired for the security breach. About a month after the incident, Mr. Savo received a call from a man who identified himself as Lee De Forest, who asked how he enjoyed the car. Mr. Savo expressed his joy over the mysterious affair, and Mr. DeForest declared Tesla the greatest living scientist in the world. Later, Mr. Savo asked his uncle whether or not the power receiver was being used in other applications. He was informed that Dr. Tesla had been negotiating with a major shipbuilding company to build a boat with a similarly outfitted engine. Asked additional questions, Dr. Tesla became annoyed. Highly concerned and personally strained over the security of this design, it seems obvious that Tesla was performing these tests in a desperate degree of secrecy for good reasons. Tesla had already been the victim of several manipulations, deadly actions entirely sourced in a single financial house. For this reason, secrecy and care had become his only recent excess.

Below is the actual book, offered through Amazon.com...it is a very, very good read. FDG.

Secrets of Cold War Technology: Project HAARP and Beyond , by Gerry Vassilatos,

http://frankgermano.net/blackbox.htm

[ulli]

Don't understand much here, but bumping it anyway because others do,
and it is pretty vital stuff, that much I know.

:bump:

[eaglespirit]

Just putting a few things here...I gotta get to work for a bit.

Adam....please keep going, please.

This is probably the best forum on the internet to share and archive...
alot of hard work and good people behind Avalon's survival.
I feel there will be more earnest and respectful communication with you here, now.
Please share more "practical" knowledge that can be put to use for those interested here if you can find the time.

I am going to relocate the books that I read of Ed's work(and others by others regarding his secrets)..
I gave them to a friend before heading on my extensive travels a number of years ago.

We are literally at the turning point for this to break wide open going around all of the 'blockages' in place...bringing it to the world all at once.


http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?47691-Edward-Leedskalnin-s-secret-of-the-Pyramid-Builders-Perpetual-Power&p=526113&viewfull=1#post526113


Some links to show your diligence:



http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/11855-eric-dollard-12.html#post216199

http://harmoniouspalette.com/Tesla-Alfven-IMHO.html
.......

Leedskalnin crude example:

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[SnowyOwl]

Salutations,

Ubiquity Source of Power with Universal Applications are. by Nature,
The worst bad trip conceivable for Monopolists Power Tripper Predators

Tesla got framed by monopolists and soon cartels,

The Pierce Car Tesla Deviced Power would have granthed myriads of Production Capacity to the whole Planet.

Just has with waves propulsing power anywhere, anytime was indeed jeopardizing some National or Empire controls.

Just has his medicinal device would have taken the carpet under all those central banks investing in chemicals and pharmaceuticals.

Tesla has indeed understood that it was futile to stubburnly produce devices that would have removed powers and controls of the temporarely rulers of the World.

So he then went ahead in producing ''Highly Special Seeds'' for Future Generation.

We are NOW in the Time he expected the fall of monopolies, cartels, etc... simply because it is counter-natural, it is by nature cancerogenic.

Despite the Word Wide Communications Capacities he had envisiosonned, we must act Regionally, that is the Path of least resistances.

Regionally we will become autarcic, Inter-Regionnally we will be inter-dependant and complementory.

Snowy Owl

[danda]

Adam,

First, let me say hello and thanks for all your efforts to get this information out. I have long maintained that anyone that discovers a free energy device would be best served to upload the full design anonymously to the world.

I've been watching this thread for about a week now since I first discovered it while search for additional Leedskalnin info. For a while, I have been noticing a connection between Leedskalnin, Tesla, and Dollard. You are the first person I've seen making that same connection. It took a while to get registered on this site though.

I watched some of your latest experiment video. I assume you are referring to the varying voltages, that you would like an explanation for? Or was it something else?

Anyway, while watching the video I did have a few thoughts:

1) Do we know what type of waves are travelling in the PMH?

2) Perhaps a different type of measurement device is required for measuring longitudinal waves. In the same way that we get weird results if we try to measure ac with a DC meter, or vice-versa. I haven't seen this discussed anywhere... do you have thoughts on that?

3) are you familiar with the "The Double Helix Theory of the Magnetic Field", as shown/simulated on leedskalnin.com? I am curious if you have been in contact with them, or what you think about it.

best,
D



PROTOTYPE DEVICE


Please folks, this is not a trick, but something I encountered. Welcoming explanations. No batteries. No power. Nothing.

If someone can tell me what is going on, I would thank them.

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I have received some shocks off this thing that you just wouldn't believe, with one hand...

Best,
A

[Hervé]

[...]

... then gravity can be considered a special case of electromagnetism of highest known frequency and shortest wavelength and therefore fastest speed in any medium... QED!
Well, gosh dang. The Grand Unified Theory of Everything which physicists have sought for a century ... born right before our eyes ;).

Well, well, well...


[...]

I will start by reminding you that Newton didn't discover G himself, or give it the firm definition of “constant” we now have. He knew there was a numerical hole in his equation that must be filled, of course. And, yes, he himself would have called that numerical filler a constant. But he knew as well as anyone that this constant was only as firm as the other variables in the equation. Since he assumed that mass was the cause of the force, and since he assumed that the mass of a given object was constant, he would have assumed his constant was fixed, as we still assume that it is. However, if you could have shown him that his mass was really a compound of two fields—not one—and that one of these fields could vary slightly, he would have been willing to allow his constant to vary in the same way.

This is because the constant in such an equation is not and was never meant to be a so-called constant of Nature. G has only taken on that form due to the ossification of physics, and due to the longstanding of the assumption that matter exists in only one field at the planetary level. We know that not every constant in an equation is a constant of Nature. We know that an equation constant is—in the first instance—simply a relationship between variables. It is unchanging only in the case that the relationship between variables is unchanging, and that is not a mathematical question. It is a physical question.

As Sheldrake pointed out, we also know the answer to that question: G is not a physical constant. As data, it is only fixed near a known value. Data on G is not constant and never has been. For some reason, physicists are not prepared to face that fact. It scares them. It shouldn't—and won't after they read this paper—since admitting G is not fixed to a single hard value doesn't bring down Newton, Einstein, or quantum mechanics. In fact, it verifies all of them (for the most part) while providing a simple means of unification. They have been seeking unification from both sides for decades now, so all of this should thrill them rather than frighten them.

Yes, G is actually the unification number in the unified field. As I have shown, Newton's original equation was already unified from the beginning. It contained and contains two fields and G is the scaler between them. Each mass in the equation can be written as a unified field entity, by writing it as a density and a volume instead of a mass. We then give density to the charge field and volume to the gravity field. G takes the size of one field down to the size of the other, so that they can be put into the same equation. In other words, the gravity field is an acceleration field, and that acceleration applies to macro-bodies. The charge field however is a field of photons, and the charge force is transferred at that level. So we need a size scaler between the two forces. That is what G is.

Stated that way, it is clear that G isn't the sort of constant we have been taught it is. It is the relationship between the charge field and the gravity field, so it is only as fixed as that relationship is.

Since the bodies in our Solar System are known to move through different patches of charge, it should not surprise anyone that G is varying to small degrees.

[...]

Excerpted from: http://milesmathis.com/g4.pdf

Then:


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Uploaded on Jul 4, 2011

Author, Engineer and Scientist, Maurice Cotterell will discuss his latest book, Future Science. Future Science explains several topics such as how electricity and magnetism work together to produce the force of gravity, why the atom is comprised of 8 orbital shells, the nature of so-called 'dark matter', the reason why spiral galaxies are spiral shaped, why the centre of the Earth is red-hot, and how the Earth's magnetic field is generated. These are some of the topics we'll discuss with Maurice in this interview. He'll begin talking about the need for holistic science that incorporates engineering, chemistry, physics, history, spirituality, etc. and talk about the "God within us" that allows us to figure things out. He'll tell us why CERN is a waste of money and time. Additionally, Maurice will talk about the Sun, its cycles, its effect on fertility, how it causes global-warming-and-global-cooling and its relationship to Mercury. Maurice will also tell us why the magnetic poles won't be flipping anytime soon and will dispel the myth about 2012.


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[eaglespirit]

Making headway...check out his other videos if you find the time.

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[ThePythonicCow]

[...]

... then gravity can be considered a special case of electromagnetism of highest known frequency and shortest wavelength and therefore fastest speed in any medium... QED!
Well, gosh dang. The Grand Unified Theory of Everything which physicists have sought for a century ... born right before our eyes ;).

Well, well, well...


[...]
Author, Engineer and Scientist, Maurice Cotterell will discuss his latest book, Future Science. Future Science explains several topics such as how electricity and magnetism work together to produce the force of gravity, why the atom is comprised of 8 orbital shells, the nature of so-called 'dark matter', the reason why spiral galaxies are spiral shaped, why the centre of the Earth is red-hot, and how the Earth's magnetic field is generated.

Thanks for mentioning Maurice Cotterell. He's good, and I had not noticed him before.

I had already suspected, and continue to suspect that gravity is formed from or intimately related to electromagnetic fields ... but I still don't think that gravity is high frequency electromagnetism, nor from what I can tell does Maurice Cotterell think that either.

[ThePythonicCow]

... but I still don't think that gravity is high frequency electromagnetism, nor from what I can tell does Maurice Cotterell think that either.
Ah - I found a nice clear description by Maurice Cotterell of his conception of gravity, in the Youtube video Future Science ; Forbidden Science of the 21st Century pt 2/6 (http://youtu.be/nzj3UVlz_As?t=11m47s), starting at 11:47. He describes it as a different sort of electromagnetic wave, not like ordinary radio waves (of any frequency) but a different sort of electromagnetic wave, in a corkscrew shape, emitted by the spinning electrons in an atom.

He does start, here, by saying that these gravity waves are the same as radio waves, but they are very high frequency. But then he goes on to refine a bit, stating that gravity waves are slightly different from radio waves in their shape as well as their frequency.

Very interesting - thanks!

[ThePythonicCow]

Ah - I found a nice clear description by Maurice Cotterell of his conception of gravity, in the Youtube video Future Science ; Forbidden Science of the 21st Century pt 2/6 (http://youtu.be/nzj3UVlz_As?t=11m47s), starting at 11:47.
Or, if you prefer, he has a 9 page monograph "How Gravity Works", available as pdf here on his web page (http://www.mauricecotterell.com/), or as sequence of jpeg images on 9 consecutive web pages, starting here (http://www.mauricecotterell.com/gravity1.html). The drawings in this monograph are quite helpful.

[observer]

I listened to a Maurice Cotterell interviews back in the days of Art Bell with Coast to Coast where he likened gravity to an Archimedes Screw type mechanism involving electromagnetic wave-forms which are generated by atomic structure moving through space. I wasn't able to locate the specific interview but it must have been in the very early 2000's. Here is an interview with George Nory of 'Coast' from '07 that includes the same descriptions.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdN-iYgzjl0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdN-iYgzjl0
[move timer over to 38 min: 30 sec. for beginning of interview]

One might also listen to Cotterell insights into "The Cycles Of The Sun", and apply that information to what we have learned from the science of Plasma Physics (http://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/):

Sun spot cycles - Maurice Cotterell Pt 1/12 -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rW0bRwyJfaA
[follow all twelve parts on YouTube]

Understanding is based on a firm foundational grasp of how this particular reality is nothing more than the materialization (atomic structure) of a wave form (quantum field) which is manifest through an infinite field of electro-magnetic possibilities.