Can the average alien afford a craft?

[Maia Gabrial]

This may be out of left field, but I'd like to ask and see what everyone thinks. I've had my eyes opened recently, so I'm not viewing things about aliens as I once did....

Do you think that the average alien can afford a space craft, let alone an interstellar one? I'm thinking not. I'm sure that if they could, we'd have a heck of alot more of them here, benefitting from what's ours....

I'm thinking that this is alien military and/or alien elite funded (their version of Rockefeller deep pockets)... I'm sure it takes big alien bucks to build a craft even on their worlds... I'm thinking that invading forces are already on Earth's soil. When the grid comes down, then we'll get the truth BLARING in our faces....

Has anyone ever wondered why some of them are just "parked" where they are in space and not involved with what's happening here? Curiosity? Don't think so...How gruesome is that? This may be an historical event for us, but for them it's probably entertainment. Could they be out there waiting to see if their bets win? How long will it take to overtake us completely? Which cosmic race will be the grandprize winner? Or will we all perish with our planet in a fiery blaze of gory...? It may not even matter to them one way or the other....

Maybe they're cosmic squatters waiting for our annihilation so they can move right in and claim everything to their hearts' content. Afterall, Gaia IS an amazing planet. How many times have we been told that they don't like what we're doing to our planet? Never mind that they may be behind that, too. I'm sure they won't mind all of our dead bodies laying around....Clean up will be a snap for them with all their technologies....

The reason why I'm asking these sarcastic questions is that everyone should see another side to all of this. It's one thing to be all positive and love and light about all of it, but what IF it's not what we're being told? It won't be the first time that we've been mislead, right? What if it's more nefarious than we can imagine?
We're the easily duped race. We believe everything that we're told without proof. They can pretty much bank on it....
If there still are people who think life is normal, they're in for a rude awakening. Wait until they see what can be done to their bodies and spirits in the most unthinkable ways... Regarding aliens, we're so naive to the point of stupidity. Look at how Earth govts have brought all of this on our heads because they trusted the aliens to be people of their word...

It took a betrayal for me to wake up. If only I had had healthy skepticism instead of naivite and too much trust in cosmic buddies. I have it in spades NOW! And it's going to take a LONG time to get over this....

I know we all have our own paths and experiences to live through. I wish everyone well on their journey. This might seem like a joke to say "Feel the Force", but it seems appropriate in this case. Using our divine senses to feel whether they're good or bad can save us from alot of suffering....

Regarding the aliens, I hope I'm wrong about them. Not all of them are bad, but I think we should be suspicious of the ones that are hanging around here even the ones parked a dimension away....

[SilentFeathers]

I personally don't think aliens are as stupid or ridiculous as we are and make their own people have to pay money in order to survive on the planet in which they were born on, let alone base there evolution or growth abilities on if they can afford it or not : hence, use a silly currency system....

[Kindred]

I feel SilentFeathers is right... any Truly Advanced Civilization would NOT use 'money'. What we have here on earth is not even the first Syllable of 'civilized', much less 'advanced'. We are just barely 'organized', and quite poorly at that!

Dependent upon the Needs of a person, or, group of people, craft can be had/supplied as necessary. There Is No Cost, and since they operate on ZPE, or some equivalent, then 'operating costs' are Zilch. There is only the food supply that comes into question. If they are Really advanced, then 'Prana' is everywhere, and have no need for foodstuffs.

Personally, I feel that most of our 'visitors' operate from 'nearby' bases or mothercraft, and thus have everything they need is readily at hand.

Just some 'food for thought'...

In Unity, Peace and Love

[sdv]

I personally don't think aliens are as stupid or ridiculous as we are and make their own people have to pay money in order to survive on the planet in which they were born on, let alone base there evolution or growth abilities on if they can afford it or not : hence, use a silly currency system....
Thank you for these wise words!

[Trail]

I concur... there's no money on spiritually advanced civilisations..

I think such advanced civilisations have arranged 'enough' vehicles for everyone at anyone time.

I also think everyone is free to do what they like with them and can use them free and at no cost for any personal endevours.

However i don't think any individual alien would decide on its own to travel down to earth in one, without first consulting the alien in charge of foreign matters or something to that extend. Spiritually advanced as they are they have a lot of responsibility and have probably set some guidelines for these matters..

~Trail.

[Carmen]

This thread really made me giggle. The image of a wee gray alien (ET) saving up his pennies? For his very own space craft! There is a very funny cartoon drawing in there somewhere! Wish I could draw!!

[Maia Gabrial]

I'm thinking that space travel would be limited for the average alien as it is for us. Maybe they're even ignorant of life on other planets as well. What do you think?

[DeDukshyn]

I'm sure there is life that travels through space without a craft, and some (like us) that can't without a craft. Maybe a craft could be an alien? (Maybe more like a friend or pet?) ... hehe just getting the thoughts going ... ;)

[Sidney]

Not only that, but many interdimensionals create their craft by "thinking it". No pennies needed, just marbles. lol

[Maunagarjana]

My understanding is that the "scout crafts" are really just for planetary use because it requires a planetary magnetic field. They can't travel between stars with just that. They have to be loaded onto carrier ships that are capable of FTL interstellar travel. That said, I don't think they have to buy them. If they have a need for them, they are available. This may not be true for all though. I've heard it said many times that our monetary system is based on a system that has its origins in Orion.

So it might not be prudent to generalize. But for most, I would think that there would probably be criteria that would have to be met for them for them to have access to one outside of their home planet. There would probably also be criteria to be met for being transported to some far flung star system. And if the planet they are visiting is one that has a status of being in quarantine (like ours) there would probably be stringent protocols in place for engagement, even if they are from a race of a negative orientation. These are just my speculations though. And while I'm speculating, I would offer Maia that you might be projecting your own inner emotional turmoil onto our planetary situation. When one is betrayed, it is easy to fall into seeing the whole world/galaxy/universe/cosmos as being inherently treacherous.

[Kindred]

Here's an interesting and informative piece on a visitation that resulted in, not only an exhaustive narrative on the 'economics' of another species, (they do Not use money) but also a detailed description of how they get here... plus much, much more...

(of particular note is that this place is a little over 10 LY away - right in the neighborhood!)

http://www.galactic.no/rune/iarga.html

In Unity, Peace and Love

[DeDukshyn]

Any species defined by commerce with "money", is lower down on my value list. And any that charge for debt like humans do, likely introduced that concept to us. We don't need those guys. ;-) Just some more thoughts ;)

Consciously creating a ship though - those are they guys I want to meet ;-) Or better yet the ones that don't even need a craft because their consciousness is properly reflected in their physicality and vice versa, so they can "go" where their mind gos.

[Doctor]

I personally don't think aliens are as stupid or ridiculous as we are and make their own people have to pay money in order to survive on the planet in which they were born on, let alone base there evolution or growth abilities on if they can afford it or not : hence, use a silly currency system....


This is what I was going to say. As advanced as they are, there is no way they would use a currency system. It's kind of a primeval or elementary form of society. It's only a matter of time humans stop having to pay to live on this silly planet. This, is of course, as long as we all don't become brainwashed.

[Seikou-Kishi]

For all we know, every alien family has its own interstellar craft, and the only reason we don't see much is because we're either in the galactic middle of nowhere, or we're a wildlife reserve.

[Maia Gabrial]

Any species defined by commerce with "money", is lower down on my value list. And any that charge for debt like humans do, likely introduced that concept to us. We don't need those guys. ;-) Just some more thoughts

Consciously creating a ship though - those are they guys I want to meet ;-) Or better yet the ones that don't even need a craft because their consciousness is properly reflected in their physicality and vice versa, so they can "go" where their mind gos.

What you've just described is called "spiritual technologies". They ARE their own technologies. I'm with you on that. Those are the ones I want to meet and associate with....

[Maunagarjana]

Here's and interesting and informative piece on a visitation that resulted in, not only an exhaustive narrative on the 'economics' of another species, (they do Not use money) but also a detailed description of how they get here... plus much, much more...

(of particular note is that this place is a little over 10 LY away - right in the neighborhood!)

http://www.galactic.no/rune/iarga.html

In Unity, Peace and Love

I love the "Contact From Iarga" book. I think it should be required reading in school, even if it's presented as science fiction.

I think anyone who reads that book will start thinking a bit differently, even if they don't feel like they want to live on Iarga, or on an Earth that is like Iarga. It really made me start thinking about efficiency in the way we organize things our planet, and about how woefully inefficient we are. And I'm not talking about the heartless, dehumanizing kind of efficiency that threatens people's safety and liberty, but just going full tilt at making the most out of what resources we've got and what we make.

So much of what we do on this planet is wasteful, disposable, polluting, half-assed and short-sighted. Most people can give you a litany of reasons why this is the case, why we have no choice but to tolerate it and why that is just the natural order of things. We tend to think that the way things are on Earth are natural and normal and the only way they could possibly be. But what do we really have for comparison?

[<8>]

:first:
Here's and interesting and informative piece on a visitation that resulted in, not only an exhaustive narrative on the 'economics' of another species, (they do Not use money) but also a detailed description of how they get here... plus much, much more...

(of particular note is that this place is a little over 10 LY away - right in the neighborhood!)

http://www.galactic.no/rune/iarga.html

In Unity, Peace and Love





thanks my friend..

I have started to read, and I find it intriguing.....

[Maia Gabrial]

However i don't think any individual alien would decide on its own to travel down to earth in one, without first consulting the alien in charge of foreign matters or something to that extend. Spiritually advanced as they are they have a lot of responsibility and have probably set some guidelines for these matters..

I agree. Since we're a quarantined planet, they'd need someone's permission. But according to John Lear, there are aliens "vacationing" here. So, that might mean an "elite" alien....idk.
But once we become part of the galactic world, aliens might be free to come there. And we, out there....

[StarDust]

Do you think that the average alien can afford a space craft, let alone an interstellar one? I'm thinking not. I'm sure that if they could, we'd have a heck of alot more of them here, benefitting from what's ours....

Afford? It is interesting that you assume that money is even relevant within the higher Densities. That is, after all, what you are implying by utilizing the term "afford", is it not? The process of manifestation is a tool available to all, thus there are no haves vs. have nots in any material sense within the higher levels of expanded consciousness.

[Rantaak]

I suspect that money is part of the planetary quarantine.

Funny thread though!

[Robert J. Niewiadomski]

Even children of "aliens" do have their own craft. If you do not believe me go and watch Shaun The Sheep: Shaun Encounters (http://video.delfi.ee/video/I6ZS4shA/)

[Maia Gabrial]

Afford? It is interesting that you assume that money is even relevant within the higher Densities. That is, after all, what you are implying by utilizing the term "afford", is it not? The process of manifestation is a tool available to all, thus there are no haves vs. have nots in any material sense within the higher levels of expanded consciousness.

YOU are the only one implying money, StarDust. Not me. I can't presume I know what goes on in other worlds and dimensions, like what they use for trade or purchase; if they even do those things. And I don't know if most of them can or can't create out of the God energies. But I imagine that you don't know either, since you're from Earth yourself....(If you do know something, then is there anything you want to tell us about yourself?)

I have heard from some source that genetics is a high commodity in the universe. Ours is definitely at the top of their list. It's possible that they trade in that. If so, then maybe that would explain why the aliens are all here now. But then Idk.... It's all just wondering....

If I knew anything about spiritually higher beings, then I could definitely share what I know. But what I don't get is your assumption that all aliens having "higher levels of expanded consciousness." They may be more intelligent than us. They may have more toys than us, but are they spiritually higher than us? And you're assuming that all aliens can manifest. Maybe that's an ability that only certain ones can do. They could be just like us, discovering their own potentials. There's a difference in KNOWING and REALIZING something. I'm saying that the average alien may be just like us.

For the record, I've encountered so called "benevolent" aliens that were anything but that. Someone said that THAT particular race are the good guys.... My a** they are....

[UnrealDreams]

This is a thought provoking thread. It is interesting to me the way the word aliens is used, just in general. Who are aliens? Are they exactly like us(human form), except they live in another world? I think so. Yet, when I hear the word alien, I think of a monster from the movies.

I would prefer to call them off-world human beings, or even better yet, I would simply call them visitors.

Could the average human from another world afford a spacecraft? Assuming you mean 3rd dimensional people, I would say no, they probably can't afford a space craft, the same way that not many on Earth can afford one. I don't believe that 3rd dimensional humans are quite suited to interstellar travel, anyway.

From what I can gather, from the 5th dimension and up, teleportation is possible....no craft is required.

[StarDust]

This is a thought provoking thread. It is interesting to me the way the word aliens is used, just in general. Who are aliens? Are they exactly like us(human form), except they live in another world? I think so. Yet, when I hear the word alien, I think of a monster from the movies.

I would prefer to call them off-world human beings, or even better yet, I would simply call them visitors.

Well stated! It is more accurate in my opinion and far less incendiary in tone.


Could the average human from another world afford a spacecraft? Assuming you mean 3rd dimensional people, I would say no, they probably can't afford a space craft, the same way that not many on Earth can afford one. I don't believe that 3rd dimensional humans are quite suited to interstellar travel, anyway.

From what I can gather, from the 5th dimension and up, teleportation is possible....no craft is required.

Bingo!

[eileenrose]

This is a thought provoking thread. It is interesting to me the way the word aliens is used, just in general. Who are aliens? Are they exactly like us(human form), except they live in another world? I think so. Yet, when I hear the word alien, I think of a monster from the movies.

I would prefer to call them off-world human beings, or even better yet, I would simply call them visitors.

Well stated! It is more accurate in my opinion and far less incendiary in tone.


Could the average human from another world afford a spacecraft? Assuming you mean 3rd dimensional people, I would say no, they probably can't afford a space craft, the same way that not many on Earth can afford one. I don't believe that 3rd dimensional humans are quite suited to interstellar travel, anyway.

From what I can gather, from the 5th dimension and up, teleportation is possible....no craft is required.

Bingo!

Now you got me curious, Star., what they would pay with?

Is it sort of a community effort (so no individual gets to decide on large production cost items- cost and energy being inter-related or the meaning the same, in this context)?

The needs of the community decide if something is put together (like a ship) and then a random or qualified 'pilot' chosen. Anyway...obviously, each star system got there own mode of transport, each with it's fixed cost of production (again energy = money in this context).

....anyway. The more interesting question is if a form of material wealth is used, for certain cultures, that might come here, what form does it take? And do we need to collect a bit of it (just in case)?

[StarDust]

YOU are the only one implying money, StarDust. Not me.

I was primarily commenting on your peculiar choice of the word "afford". From my perspective, that represents lacking; as if to dismiss the universal abundance of Source. I have no desire to debate your word choice; it represents an interesting word choice, that is all.


I can't presume I know what goes on in other worlds and dimensions, like what they use for trade or purchase; if they even do those things. And I don't know if most of them can or can't create out of the God energies.

Fair enough.


But I imagine that you don't know either, since you're from Earth yourself....(If you do know something, then is there anything you want to tell us about yourself?)

Well, then your imagination is limited from my perspective with regard to the "Sui generis" of others. As for the core of your comment, I defer to my signature for the brief version. If you wish to know more, then you can check out a longer discussion of it here: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?45101-How-many-souls-are-currently-incarnating-on-Earth&p=488338&viewfull=1#post488338

The information about my origin is located within the conversation I had with Peace of Mind. If you are genuinely interested and still have questions, you are welcome to PM me with them.


I have heard from some source that genetics is a high commodity in the universe. Ours is definitely at the top of their list. It's possible that they trade in that. If so, then maybe that would explain why the aliens are all here now. But then Idk.... It's all just wondering....

Interesting perspective.


If I knew anything about spiritually higher beings, then I could definitely share what I know.

What you would likely encounter is massive resistance to the perspective of another that seems foreign to some. Most people are not nearly as open minded as they make themselves out to be. And that increases by an order of magnitude on sites like Avalon.


But what I don't get is your assumption that all aliens having "higher levels of expanded consciousness."

That perspective is based on our existence as 6th Density beings who have no need for physicality in any form including trade, food or transport.


They may be more intelligent than us. They may have more toys than us, but are they spiritually higher than us?

I don't know what you are trying to express by the term "spiritually higher". However, higher Density beings do resonate at a higher frequency. This is an aspect of The Law of ONE.


And you're assuming that all aliens can manifest. Maybe that's an ability that only certain ones can do.

Aspects of manifestation are possible beginning within mid 4th Density - Gaia is evolving into this Density soon. More detailed information is available via "The RA Material" here: http://www.lawofone.info/


They could be just like us, discovering their own potentials.

Discovering potential is a large part of the process for all Densities.


I'm saying that the average alien may be just like us.

In terms of being a a part of Source, I concur.

[StarDust]

Now you got me curious, Star., what they would pay with?

The answer is simple - Energy. It is a direct transfer process. If anyone has been following the recent reports by Tanaath, she mentions the use of energy as a form of exchange when recovering their dead. Energy is amassed and used for a variety of things. In the negative, it is expressed as food among other things.

Terrans use of electronic banking is a very crude version of this system. In essence, the physical use of "money" in 3rd Density also represents a crude form of energy exchange.


Is it sort of a community effort (so no individual gets to decide on large production cost items- cost and energy being inter-related or the meaning the same, in this context)?

Yes, there are agreed upon hierarchies for the purpose of streamlining duties. It is not used in negative ways like such structures are here on earth to dominate over another - that is a foreign concept amongst the higher Density positive beings.


The needs of the community decide if something is put together (like a ship) and then a random or qualified 'pilot' chosen. Anyway...obviously, each star system got there own mode of transport, each with it's fixed cost of production (again energy = money in this context).

I perceive this to be true. Since we don't require transport in a physical sense where I'm from, I can only extrapolate such systems as being correct from my understanding.


....anyway. The more interesting question is if a form of material wealth is used, for certain cultures, that might come here, what form does it take? And do we need to collect a bit of it (just in case)?

That is an interesting question that I think has more validity amongst negatives. I don't perceive that benevolent beings desire anything from Gaia aside from promoting the free will of Terrans to express themselves as unique aspects of Source.

[Maia Gabrial]

I would prefer to call them off-world human beings, or even better yet, I would simply call them visitors.

UnrealDreams,
What do you call the criminal Grays and their "unity" of regressives then? They've been here a long time and influencing untold damage to us and our world. I specifically used aliens in this because what do we really know about any of the visitors? Everyone of them has an agenda, right? Some come across as benevolent, but what do we know of their value systems and such? It may not even be close to what we think benevolent people should act like. We're using our own standards regarding them. These are cosmic people who think differently from us because of their ways of life.

We all need to wonder what will happen to us, once we're "freed". These kinds of questions need to be asked, too! Afterall, the visitors would have done all the work; so, they'd have a right to say what we can and can't do, right? Will we like what they have in mind for us? Maybe it'll be better. But what if it's not? What if they're just like Obama making all kinds of promises to get our trust, like freeing us and then leaving; and then they DON'T? What if THEY become our worst nightmare? Honestly, I think we'll all have wished we put up alittle more of a struggle against them.

When I read about some of the naive comments, I remember that I used to believe and hope like a FOOL in them. Only in my case, I was a BIG TIME FOOL.... Now, I'll wait and see what happens because that's when we'll all either be cheering at them; or screaming in misery and terror. If I sound pessimistic, I am. It's a recent development....


I perceive this to be true. Since we don't require transport in a physical sense where I'm from, I can only extrapolate such systems as being correct from my understanding.

I'm curious about where you're from, StarDust....

[firstlook]

Its all assumptions. All we know is things are moving around up in the skies.........and diving in and out of the oceans! that is cool. :)

[peace]

I would prefer to call them off-world human beings, or even better yet, I would simply call them visitors.

UnrealDreams,
What do you call the criminal Grays and their "unity" of regressives then? They've been here a long time and influencing untold damage to us and our world. I specifically used aliens in this because what do we really know about any of the visitors? Everyone of them has an agenda, right? Some come across as benevolent, but what do we know of their value systems and such? It may not even be close to what we think benevolent people should act like. We're using our own standards regarding them. These are cosmic people who think differently from us because of their ways of life.

We all need to wonder what will happen to us, once we're "freed". These kinds of questions need to be asked, too! Afterall, the visitors would have done all the work; so, they'd have a right to say what we can and can't do, right? Will we like what they have in mind for us? Maybe it'll be better. But what if it's not? What if they're just like Obama making all kinds of promises to get our trust, like freeing us and then leaving; and then they DON'T? What if THEY become our worst nightmare? Honestly, I think we'll all have wished we put up alittle more of a struggle against them.

When I read about some of the naive comments, I remember that I used to believe and hope like a FOOL in them. Only in my case, I was a BIG TIME FOOL.... Now, I'll wait and see what happens because that's when we'll all either be cheering at them; or screaming in misery and terror. If I sound pessimistic, I am. It's a recent development....


I perceive this to be true. Since we don't require transport in a physical sense where I'm from, I can only extrapolate such systems as being correct from my understanding.

I'm curious about where you're from, StarDust....

respectfully; it seems you completely believe in a lot of things we've never seen proof of. while i admire lears guts to speak up, i think he is hardly a reputable source of information.

saying the greys are aggressive, like its something we've all experienced, is a hard argument on your part - because, well, i've never seen or experienced the aggression. you could argue i have through the "shadow government/control" but that's all heresay, along with "they've been here for a long time." when i see a grey i'll ask. but i won't. neither will you.

it sucks, because i'd like some of this $hit to be true, but it's always some guy's word (lear, et al) against the rest of the rational population.

and discussing what we'd think about alien civilizations, their market systems, socio-economic situations, etc., is fun, but kind of pointless. again, leading to, "so and so said this, it must be true" or "their advanced, they couldn't possibly be like us," which leads us to nowhere because no one, at least on this forum, has ANY idea. but again, a fun idea to play with.

but, yes. they can afford it. :p

[Maia Gabrial]

You said it, peace! It was supposed to be a goofy topic. But it turned to serious, at least on my part. You're right about how we take the word of one person as proof and that's it. I did enough of that. I WAS SUCH A FOOL! :tsk:

BUT - I've had my encounters with the Grays! No sh*t! Not through anything like shadow govt or whatever.. They harass me personally! And they get cocky enough to show me their faces. I harass back. But of course, you only have my word on this..... :becky:

[peace]

You said it, peace! It was supposed to be a goofy topic. But it turned to serious, at least on my part. You're right about how we take the word of one person as proof and that's it. I did enough of that. I WAS SUCH A FOOL! :tsk:

BUT - I've had my encounters with the Grays! No sh*t! Not through anything like shadow govt or whatever.. They harass me personally! And they get cocky enough to show me their faces. I harass back. But of course, you only have my word on this..... :becky:

wow, could you elaborate on any of your encounters? hate to be so bold to ask, if I'm overstepping my bounds, please feel free to ignore.

kind of a "nice to meet you, can i have something of yours?" but i'm intrigued.

added: we all get duped. lear, wilcock (presently getting a lot of people), bruisch, collier, all have to laugh themselves to sleep at night, realizing what they've told people, and how many people have believed. i'm in the legion of those that have bought things, hook, line and sinker.

[Kindred]

Any species defined by commerce with "money", is lower down on my value list. And any that charge for debt like humans do, likely introduced that concept to us. We don't need those guys. ;-) Just some more thoughts ;)

Consciously creating a ship though - those are they guys I want to meet ;-) Or better yet the ones that don't even need a craft because their consciousness is properly reflected in their physicality and vice versa, so they can "go" where their mind gos.

I'll suggest that those beings, who can create ships with their minds, are the exception rather than the rule. To quote Thiaoouba Prophecy (the 'highest' level of beings in our galaxy); "We are masters, not of Nature, but masters in Nature..."

I Strongly believe that, not only do they create their ships via the mind, but Everything they need. But, the food they eat is grown... it's just 'formed' via the mind to concentrate the Life Force of the food, and to provide some longevity. They don't necessarily need to eat, but it's a nice way to socialize ("all good things begin, or end, in a meal").

Some more 'food for thought'...

In Unity, Peace and Love

[Tangri]

This is a thought provoking thread. It is interesting to me the way the word aliens is used, just in general. Who are aliens? Are they exactly like us(human form), except they live in another world? I think so. Yet, when I hear the word alien, I think of a monster from the movies.

I would prefer to call them off-world human beings, or even better yet, I would simply call them visitors.

Could the average human from another world afford a spacecraft? Assuming you mean 3rd dimensional people, I would say no, they probably can't afford a space craft, the same way that not many on Earth can afford one. I don't believe that 3rd dimensional humans are quite suited to interstellar travel, anyway.

From what I can gather, from the 5th dimension and up, teleportation is possible....no craft is required.

Visitor? Hmmm, Maybe we should considering Humans as a occupants

[StarDust]

I'm curious about where you're from, StarDust....

As per my signature:


My "messaging" comes directly from a 6th Density social memory complex in the etheric realm of Sirius B; of which I am a member. I volunteered to incarnate here as a representative of our SMC and to assist Gaia and Terrans in the transformation.

As per post #26:


If you wish to know more, then you can check out a longer discussion of it here: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?45101-How-many-souls-are-currently-incarnating-on-Earth&p=488338&viewfull=1#post488338

The information about my origin is located within the conversation I had with Peace of Mind. If you are genuinely interested and still have questions, you are welcome to PM me with them.

[DeDukshyn]

Any species defined by commerce with "money", is lower down on my value list. And any that charge for debt like humans do, likely introduced that concept to us. We don't need those guys. ;-) Just some more thoughts ;)

Consciously creating a ship though - those are they guys I want to meet ;-) Or better yet the ones that don't even need a craft because their consciousness is properly reflected in their physicality and vice versa, so they can "go" where their mind gos.

I'll suggest that those beings, who can create ships with their minds, are the exception rather than the rule. To quote Thiaoouba Prophecy (the 'highest' level of beings in our galaxy); "We are masters, not of Nature, but masters in Nature..."

I Strongly believe that, not only do they create their ships via the mind, but Everything they need. But, the food they eat is grown... it's just 'formed' via the mind to concentrate the Life Force of the food, and to provide some longevity. They don't necessarily need to eat, but it's a nice way to socialize ("all good things begin, or end, in a meal").

Some more 'food for thought'...

In Unity, Peace and Love

Our long lost brothers ;) They're still waiting for us to get our $h*t together (to return from the "Spell of Matter") My 2 cents.