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whenyournex2me
18th June 2012, 09:51
What species, star seed, or labeled ET name?
What role?

:)

Anchor
18th June 2012, 10:15
A very good question ;)

The starting point for a debate of potentially infinite length!

Tony
18th June 2012, 10:18
When we finally know our true nature, the role is.........................whatever you need!

modwiz
18th June 2012, 10:38
I'll have a roll with organic butter, please. Preferably from Pleiadian cows. Made from Sirian whale milk for something more exotic could work.

whenyournex2me
18th June 2012, 20:51
By "what role do they play," I mean what role are they playing now, in the physical?

My personal beliefs being, interactions and plans are created to cultivate humanity into the divine... as the human species grow, with no or little awareness of their interaction or help.

Ill start one example... Though is pure speculation and based on no evidence whatsoever! I am asking this here because I believe there are people that do know and am simply curious.

How many species are there that we are aware of, interacting with Humans and Earth?

Greys
sub species?
Role- manipulation of society, religion, and control.
Reasons- To help mankind .... learn what ever lesson or evolve from a particular problem...

truth4me
19th June 2012, 03:13
Well,Clifford Stone said there were at least 57 different ones.How can we really know?

white wizard
19th June 2012, 04:08
Hmmm honestly if your talking about the role we play down here I look at it as

if were playing a virtual real life role playing game. In here it feels very real and

characters *people* most of which have no idea about the matrix we call reality

just go about daily life experience reality in a form those from higher dimensions

would call a roller coaster ride of limited consciousness. The over soul would be

the player guiding the character through lives obstacles and leveling up the

character, which in turn helps it move to higher vibrations. I really do think

the only role we play, is to learn through experience, to help the all experience

every possibility and every form. I am some what of an old soul, been here

quite a few times and all I can tell you is the only role I play is just being me

and trying to enjoy this play I signed up to play a role in. The main thing

that keeps me going and playing role I chose to experience is knowing that

when I chose to do this it came from a higher level of consciousness and

regardless of what these people down here tell me we are here for I know

from I higher level I chose to do this so it must be for something worthwhile

and all the rest of what people say is B.S.. This might be a nerdy thing to say,

but I would like my next role to be another 3d or higher experience, where

I come in not knowing anything. The only difference would be I would be

exploring the universe as a star trek theme. I know on the other side I know

all about the universe, but I want a 3d/4d experience relearning it kinda like

forgetting a good movie then getting to re watch it not knowing what to

expect.

whenyournex2me
19th June 2012, 19:53
Someone that may channel or communicate with higher dimensionals may have some information about their role in general. TBH, I felt that this knowledge was already acquired but maybe not put together.

I will have to do some digging to see what I come up with...

It would be cool to put together a picture, where the master from each species or each role playing group that is involved with our evolution, surrounded the earth. I remember a picture in my grandfathers house, when youd first walk in: it had a few dogs around a gambling table playing poker... you know what Im talking about Im sure.

It all makes sense to me on that large scale of perspective, I guess, it would be what ever I wanted it to be.

Rantaak
20th June 2012, 17:58
Eschaton Stormbringer.

Mostly I just talk with people and make things using music and language. My spirit originates from a place without duality or gender, thus my perspective and modality is beyond these constraints.

crested-duck
20th June 2012, 20:04
At this point in time I believe just a energy/soul on a mission of evolution and growth of concious awareness of myself and my function in the universe. When reviewed can see continuously pointing out and shining light while asking questions concerning things nobody wanted to look at or talk about, that just didn't make sense to me at the time. Seems we're all just searching and looking for acceptance of ourselves, by ourselves!--Rob:doh:

ernesto
8th July 2012, 16:48
Excuse my English (this is not my mother language)

Well, first we have a problem: how to define Who´s names.
Names are tricky because this game is too old, and the diferent cultures have been giving diferent names to the same beings, sometimes mistakenly identified.
Some genuine information was distorted year later with dissinformative campaigns by one of the sides in this game.
So, you must understand that names are relative, not absolute.
Having said this, we could explore some names:

FIRST GROUP

CTR from the italian word Contrari which mean oposite, as told in the MASS CONTACT BOOK, by Stefano Breccia. This was the name given to a cloned human breed created with an unclear agenda, possibly as a police force for the galaxy. These beings wants us to live in chaos, to avoid our evolution. Their goal is keeping us asleep. They feed themselves with our negative thoughts and fears. Their cientific knowledge is huge, and beyond our cience ends: death. They had somehow modified our ADN in order to shorten our life span, making it more difficult our awakening. Their only GOD is cience. Their Cloned origin might be the key for they behaviour, since their creators were looking for eficient beings without emotions.
OLD EMPIRE AGENTS, from the Alien Interview Book, are a group of Prison Guards of the Prison Plant called Earth. Their goal is keeping us sleeping to hide our real power, so that we can stay prisoners. They were the creators of the curent economic system. They were also the architect of the pyramids complex spread all over the world.
GIZA INTELLIGENCES from the Book And They Still Fly that tells Billy Meier experiences with the Pleyadians. Apparently thes Giza Intelligences were the creators of the Piyramids, and are somehow ruling our world towards wars and other negative actions.
The 3 cases seems to be the same people, that were missunderstood as gods in the biblie and other ancient religious texts. They seems to be the pilots of Vimanas in India, and some other places.
The guys that gave the christian commandments can be put in this first group. (this is a controversial statement, that could be specially discussed if someone is interested)
There are some other names that I have seen here for the first time, as the Draconians among others that might fit in this first group too.
In fact all these beings could be the SAME and only NEGATIVE group acting in Earth.
This is a photograph of one of their crafts:
http://www.rense.com/1.imagesD/Bruno121.jpg
Source: http://www.rense.com/general33/bruno.htm This picture was taken during a batle between the W56 and the CTR in italy during the Friendship case
But as their nature is being tricky, they use other crafts to disorient, as it happened with Adamski´s case among others.
Here you have a video of the same craft taken in London this year: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7mkePVSuHk&feature=player_embedded
In the next image, you can see a comparison between one frame of the london video and 3 lighting options in a 3D modern reconstruction:
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/4253/london2o.jpg
The following video shows the same kind of scout craft in Germany this year: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03AtROchHaM&feature=player_embedded
It is inevitable to relate their presence to the curent economic and political crisis in Europe.
The following is an ancient illustration of one of their crafts:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_4jCJsRzxVo0/S9iCb_nH96I/AAAAAAAAEBs/zgDdP-LGceE/s1600/Vimana%25252B6.jpg
as seen by witneses in Asia.
The following is a modern 3D reconstruction showing the possible scene in the previous illustration:
http://img862.imageshack.us/img862/6100/psxr115a.jpg
In this illustration you can see a deformed craft, and this is one of the characteristics of their technology, which is based in Spatial Distortion. This helped ancient human witneses to missundertand the crafts as "living beings" or creatures.
The following is a modern reconstruction of their design landed in one unknown desert in Earth:
http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/2135/eaterrizr.jpg
In golden finish. They used golden finish for their expectacular and open actions as "gods" in the old times, but now they use a black finish for their covert operations.

SECOND GROUP

There is another group, of helpers:
W56 are a group of Friendly of human looking aliens of the Amicizia case. (Friendship Case) For more info read Mass Contact. These beings were who created (clonned) the CTRs, and they are trying to fix the mess here in the earth now.
Here you can see one of their ships:
http://ufofacts.org/spacebros/imgs/FriendshipUFO2.jpg
I recomend the 3 books by Alberto Perego in Italian, although the information is mixed with disinformation in some cases.
The Domain is a civilization comprised by several spiritual beings inhabiting humanoids bodies, that have conquered the galaxy. Now they are the owners of the earth, but are not working on our liberation. Instead they let other civilizations to help us in diferent ways. (read Alien Interview)
The Pleyadians are one of the responsible civilization of our present situation, and now they are helping to fix the mess. (Read Billy Meier´s texts or And They Still Fly)
One of their ships:
http://www.ufohypotheses.com/44A%20MEIER,%20Photo%20Analysis,%20Poster,%20p%2012,%20p%2044ACROP.jpg
The contact of DINO KRASPEDON seems to fit in this group.
Jesus Christ or Buda could have been one of these too.

THIRD GROUP

There are some not clear (to me) cases
The Adamski case, apparently they presented themselves as loving beings, but their case is too weird. I suspect they were not sincere. They were hiding something. I assume they were sent by the first group to wash their reputation after the second world war.
Howard Menger´s case seems to be the same kind.
The case of Anthony Woods´s videos was orchestrated by the Negative beings of the first group. I am not saying that Anthony Woods nor Adamski or the others were liers, on the contrary I trust they all are or were genuine and honest, but they were manipulated by the negative group (CTR or OLD EMPIRE AGENTS or GIZA INTELLIGENCES or whatever name the could have given)



Of course this is a "map" of who is who accordingly to my current opinion. I must say that I have been changing and correcting my opinion for the last 30 years, so it might change in the future too.
I am sure most of you know other names, or groups that may or not fit in these descriptions.
I hope this could answer your question, at least partially.

ernesto
8th July 2012, 17:56
Here you have some old illustrations that represents the CTR/OLD EMPIRE/GIZA INTELLIGENCES crafts as living beings:
Note the obvious similarities and take your own conclusions:

http://www.aroencyclopaedia.org/shared/image/d/dorje_phurba_01_garuda_400_273.jpg

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lk5uc9idHm1qacehho1_500.jpg

http://elizabethirreverent.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/really-evil-devil.gif
This Image of the Devil, might answer best your question about their Role in this planet.

http://www.thedailysaucer.com/wp-content/gallery/artifacts/egyptian_saucer_hieroglyphs-6c2be0079c368c509105ddaced8a2a20e63e69a2.jpg
This is a rather known image allegedly showing extraterrestrial crafts, but look at the "bee" in the left corner.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-8sjJxST8-O8/Tt-TsaqX4LI/AAAAAAAAEuw/QzVeC-NPwrI/s400/ufo-5.JPG
This is an illustration for a newspaper reporting a case of the 1890 UFO wave in the USA

And this one in very interesting:
Look carefully at Nefertiti´s golden hat:
http://media.web.britannica.com/eb-media/62/20262-004-B18C86DF.jpg
It has two tall wings, two low wings, two balls trapped in the bird,s claws.
A "sun" in beween the two tall wings (this is the main light in the craft)
In the front a bird´s head with its peak resembling the keel of the ship.
And the golden finish, of course.

normam2
8th July 2012, 18:13
Hmmm honestly if your talking about the role we play down here I look at it as

if were playing a virtual real life role playing game. In here it feels very real and

characters *people* most of which have no idea about the matrix we call reality

just go about daily life experience reality in a form those from higher dimensions

would call a roller coaster ride of limited consciousness. The over soul would be

the player guiding the character through lives obstacles and leveling up the

character, which in turn helps it move to higher vibrations. I really do think

the only role we play, is to learn through experience, to help the all experience

every possibility and every form. I am some what of an old soul, been here

quite a few times and all I can tell you is the only role I play is just being me

and trying to enjoy this play I signed up to play a role in. The main thing

that keeps me going and playing role I chose to experience is knowing that

when I chose to do this it came from a higher level of consciousness and

regardless of what these people down here tell me we are here for I know

from I higher level I chose to do this so it must be for something worthwhile

and all the rest of what people say is B.S.. This might be a nerdy thing to say,

but I would like my next role to be another 3d or higher experience, where

I come in not knowing anything. The only difference would be I would be

exploring the universe as a star trek theme. I know on the other side I know

all about the universe, but I want a 3d/4d experience relearning it kinda like

forgetting a good movie then getting to re watch it not knowing what to

expect.

White wizard, we should be on the same crew . I just recently been wondering if I would do 3d/4d again. Certainly not for a while since my current life has been and still is hard, so when it's time for me to go back I will probably need a long long nap.

Anyway, I agreed with you about needing to forget all your knowledge about the universe if you want the rush of traveling to unknown places as well as the sense of adventure. I'm already daydreaming it as we speak so it must be in the works ;)

Isabel

Mandala
10th July 2012, 17:35
As an analogy, I will use I an old Star Trek movie in which the crew encountered an omnipotent, huge force with the letters "V...ger" visible on the side. This thing was annihilating and consuming anything in its way. Not until later did they realize earth had sent Voyager out on a scouting mission to learn everything possible, and consume much knowledge to bring back to its creator on earth, I suppose, Mission Control. (V ger, was the probe Voyager, with the o y a worn away) It was programmed simply to complete its mission, as I believe we have been programmed or contracted to do.

The creator has sent all beings out on mission to learn, experience and extrapolate knowledge and bring all experiences back to the creator/source. We are in essence, V ger, gathering knowledge and bringing results back to source.

IMHO, I believe our higher soul or over soul, is the commander of the mission. In order to gain the highest quantity of knowledge and possible outcomes we have multi-verses or realities that a portion of our soul experiences all various outcomes from different decisions made. In this manner we are able to have all outcomes and results. Maybe on a different time line, or alternate reality we may have fared better or worse.

I do believe that earth humans were created through bio-genetics. I believe the Reptilians played a major part in devising this plan and this is why we see so many reptilian symbols (snake, dragon, crocodile, lizard symbology) and influence in past historic culture, even today. Even our primitive reptilian brain is probably a remnant of their basic genetic design.

I think that many of us who are here at this time may be off-worlders. We heard the call, earth's in trouble, and volunteered to come and help, whether from another planet, galaxy or star system. This is why our population is so high at this time. Earth has a chance to evolve. In the past it has failed. We are here to help raise the vibration of the planet while Mother Earth herself evolves and moves into a higher dimension. She is evolving, whether we choose to be apart of this or not, it is going to happen. This time we will make it. Our mission is almost complete.

Some of us may choose, or will agree to incarnate on another 3D4D world for a new experience, while some of us will choose to move on, (if we are ready), to 5D or higher. I believe we have incarnated as many things/beings on many planets. I am ready to move on to a higher dimension. It has been interesting but I'm tired of the lies, trickery, enslavement, and hatefulness.

The more you learn, the more complicated it gets. Nothing is simple. Ask your higher self for guidance, you'll get it.

As far as who is playing what role, who ever we are, where ever we are from, it really doesn't matter. Because you picked your role, and I picked mine. I know I volunteered.

Unified Serenity
10th July 2012, 18:35
I think we are here to learn how to live together, walk in love and mercy thus able to be a fit helper to the Divine Creator who wished an equal to walk with and share the creation with, but instead all S/he got was a bunch of useless spoiled brats who had no clue what real love was, were unmotivated to learn as they had zero needs or ability to appreciate, and thus one was possibly chosen to kick start the learning process, chose to play the part of instigator / negativity teacher and another one was chosen to play the part of merciful sacrificial perfect loving savior showing the perfect path of love. We lived in an ancient age and some made great choices, some mad horrible choices, and some made no choices. So, God/dess made a way for us to learn it all and we come here to spiritually evolve. Everything has built up to a final well semi-final exam, and we are almost ready for it. Even then though many will not quite get it, and there will be a special remediation day to learn it all without anything hidden, and then those who did not pass the first exam will get a second shot at it and take the final. All those who pass move on to future growth. All those who don't just get reabsorbed into the Divine energy mix and there is no memory of them.

We are here to learn some lessons. The ET's or Demons or whatever you want to call them help us learn them from a negative standpoint. Yes, even the really pretty ooey gooey feeling ones.