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UnrealDreams
21st June 2012, 05:52
Have you had any root canal procedures done?
Are you in need of a root canal?
Do you know someone who is sick with disease and has had root canals done?

If so, this is a must read. This information was brought to my attention by reading the wonderful book titled "Healing The Gerson Way" by Charlotte Gerson.

George Menning, former head of the Root Canal Society, resigned and wrote a book titled "The Root Canal Coverup", exposing the dangers of the root canal procedure after Dr. Menning had read a book written by Dr. Weston Price some hundred years ago.

Dr. Price described treating a patient who was bedridden with arthritis(RA) throughout her body. He removed a tooth of hers that had been through the root canal procedure. He cleaned it, sterilized it and implanted it under the skin of a rabbit. In five days the rabbit had developed severe RA and in 10 days the rabbit was dead from the disease. Meanwhile, after having the offending tooth removed, the patient started to feel better, and eventually lost the pain and swelling and fully recovered.

Dr. Price decided to do further research, and whenever he removed a root canal treated tooth, he sterilized it and implanted it under the skin of a rabbit. To his amazement, in every case, the rabbit contracted the same disease the patient had within 5 days and died within 10. He did this hundreds of times with similar results.

Dr. Price then experimented by taking a healthy tooth that someone had lost accidentally and implanted it under the skin of a rabbit. The rabbit lived for 15 years. Then he took a tooth from a diseased person and autoclaved it(exposed it to steam pressure at 250* temperature). That rabbit similarly contracted the exact same disease as the pastient and died.

Dr. Menning reports in his book the two main factors at play. First, removing the nerve of the tooth kills it. The dead tooth cannot absorb nutrients as a healthy tooth can. Number two is that metabolic residues are unable to be released from the tooth because the tooth becomes filled with germs and viruses, which eventually penetrate the jawbone and cause severe infectous bone damage. This penetration of viruses and germs into the body through the offending tooth allows toxins from the infection to be released into the bloodstream, causing a nearly permanent poisoning of the blood.

The only solution to this problem is to remove the root canal treated teeth, and if the root canal procedure hasn't been done, the tooth must be extracted to prevent this.

This story is one more good reason to brush and floss those pearly whites!!!
I would suggest, especially if you, or a loved one have a disease, that you look into extracting any offending teeth.

Arrowwind
21st June 2012, 14:16
Great post. Dr West was way ahead of his time. There are now a growing group of dentists who realize this about root canals. I would not go to anyone but a biomemetic dentist. Please read my artilce here and it provides a link for finding a biomemetic dentist in your area. They use the most advanced dental techniques and can save the most damaged tooth that might have previously required a root canal. This treatment should be used first. If it should fail then the tooth can be removed. Dr Alleman says these techniques are highly effective and eliminate the need for root canal or tooth removal


http://www.healthsalon.org/478/biomimetic-dentistry-ozone-dentistry-avoiding-root-canal-dr-alleman-dds/

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indigopete
21st June 2012, 14:50
I've had a root canal treated tooth in my mouth for over 20 years and feel great.

But I suppose it could be like the guy falling from the 50 story building who, when passing the 10th floor muttered "so far so good" :)

Thanks for the post - if I start feeling groggy I'll look into it as a possible source of the groggyness.

Daughter of Time
21st June 2012, 17:56
I've had many dental challenges. I've had all the mercury fillings removed and replaced. i also have had root canals.

After learning about all the illnesses that conventional dentistry can cause, i switched to a holistic dentist. I asked my dentist about removing my root canal teeth. My dentist said that sometimes removing those teeth can cause other problems. The use of lazers on infected teeth usually prevents the need for root canals. But alas, i already had had root canals done before switching to a holistic dentist.

The solution, according to this holistic dentist who is way ahead of most other holistic dentists, is to shoot ozone into the root canal every six months or so. Ozone kills bacteria, fungii, moulds, parasites and other pathogens that result from root canals. So I have ozone shot into my root canals every time I have my teeth cleaned. The cost is approximately $50.00 per ozone shot.

if you've had root canals and feel your health is failing, do yourself the favour of switching to a holistic dentist and find out whether their office uses ozone injections. Most cities in North America now have holistic dentists who perform this procedure.

If you haven't had root canals, it's still a good idea to switch to a holistic dentist who might save you from invasive and unhealthy dental practices in the future.

Midnight
21st June 2012, 18:19
So Dr. Price killed hundreds of rabbits? You would think 5 or 10 dead rabbits would have been enough proof.

DouglasDanger
22nd June 2012, 01:56
So Dr. Price killed hundreds of rabbits? You would think 5 or 10 dead rabbits would have been enough proof.

Sadly no .... the more animals used for the tests the more results gathered that can be used for claim of proof for your study.. 10 - 100 dead do not usually get a second look they could have been screw ups in the tests proceedures....1000 + dead starts to get heads turned.. 10's of thousands is called irrefutable proof.. A place I used to work had freezers of dead mice and guinea pigs that we had to keep for one year minimum, as proof the tests where done, each tagged/doccumented for the tests performed / cancers they had been injected with each having been necropsied and other samples taken and stored for future research.. They all gave thier lives to further animal lives, none of the tests where done for human known diseases or cancers as I used to work in vetrinary research. I appologise, not trying to create fear porn or make anyone turn to PETA or some such just trying to put an accurate picture of how many animals do die for research purposes before heads are turned in studies like the one the good doctor here is doing...


I am glad to have no fillings, no root canals and all of my wisdom teeth plus what I think are my reptillian genics causing a few extra to start a second row of teeth growing from the inner lower jaw...or they could just be refered to as dwarf teeth as I have not been to a dentist in 20 years to have them "professionally checked out" I've only vollenteered and learned a few things from vollenteering for a dental assistant school as a guinea pig for thier students.. :)

Arrowwind
22nd June 2012, 15:37
I've had a root canal treated tooth in my mouth for over 20 years and feel great.

But I suppose it could be like the guy falling from the 50 story building who, when passing the 10th floor muttered "so far so good" :)

Thanks for the post - if I start feeling groggy I'll look into it as a possible source of the groggyness.

Fortuanatly not every single root canal gives problems. But there is great risk with the procedure. Its a crap shoot, a roll of the dice.

Arrowwind
22nd June 2012, 15:41
I've
The solution, according to this holistic dentist who is way ahead of most other holistic dentists, is to shoot ozone into the root canal every six months or so. Ozone kills bacteria, fungii, moulds, parasites and other pathogens that result from root canals. So I have ozone shot into my root canals every time I have my teeth cleaned. The cost is approximately $50.00 per ozone shot.

if .

when you get those ozone injections does your doc inject novacain first? can you tell me what gamma he uses and how many cc of gas in the syringe. Maybe you dont know off hand but if you could find out next time Id appreciate it.

I am a trained ozone therapist but have never done dental stuff and it was not included in my course. But I am finding that MMS can replace much of the effectiveness of ozone for many different issues. MMS mouth washes can do much and it does penetrate the gums.

Daughter of Time
22nd June 2012, 17:40
I've
The solution, according to this holistic dentist who is way ahead of most other holistic dentists, is to shoot ozone into the root canal every six months or so. Ozone kills bacteria, fungii, moulds, parasites and other pathogens that result from root canals. So I have ozone shot into my root canals every time I have my teeth cleaned. The cost is approximately $50.00 per ozone shot.

if .

when you get those ozone injections does your doc inject novacain first? can you tell me what gamma he uses and how many cc of gas in the syringe. Maybe you dont know off hand but if you could find out next time Id appreciate it.

I am a trained ozone therapist but have never done dental stuff and it was not included in my course. But I am finding that MMS can replace much of the effectiveness of ozone for many different issues. MMS mouth washes can do much and it does penetrate the gums.



Arrowwind, thank you for your post.

I do not have an answer for your questions but I will make a note and find out next time I have my ozone shots which won't be until the fall.

Thank you for the tip on MMS mouth washes. I see MMS in health food stores but I thought it was for internal ingestion.

I'd appreciate knowing whether one dissolves the MMS powder and uses it as a mouth wash or whether there is a special liquid solution available.

Arrowwind
22nd June 2012, 23:58
Thank you for the tip on MMS mouth washes. I see MMS in health food stores but I thought it was for internal ingestion.

I'd appreciate knowing whether one dissolves the MMS powder and uses it as a mouth wash or whether there is a special liquid solution available.

MMS is not a powder. It is a solution. Few if any healthfood stores sell it. you will have to find it on the internet.

these links will help you understand what mms is

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•Jim Humble Personal and Biographical Report (http://www.jimhumble.biz/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=23&Itemid=2)
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• Understanding MMS (http://www.youtube.com/jimhumblelive#p/c/DE746CDD49450814) (Video)
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Daughter of Time
23rd June 2012, 04:17
Arrowwind,

Yes, of course! I did take MMS a couple of years ago as an internal cleanse. I'd forgotten. It tasted like bleach. That I did not forget!

Would you know if Hydrogen Peroxide - food grade - 35% has the same effect?

write4change
23rd June 2012, 06:51
Thanks for all this good information arrowwind. I have to come back to it soon. Again my appreciation. And yes, I have a bunch of root canals and they may be the source of my problem. I am having pretty bad RA attacks now.

conk
26th June 2012, 18:55
Is there any information regarding a remedy besides extraction? I have 2 or 3 root canals. I've wondered if ozone water would be of any benefit. I just bought the machine and am eager to play with it. ;)

Daughter of Time
26th June 2012, 22:35
Is there any information regarding a remedy besides extraction? I have 2 or 3 root canals. I've wondered if ozone water would be of any benefit. I just bought the machine and am eager to play with it. ;)

According to my dentist, ozone injected directly into the root canal is the best treatment for killing bacteria, moulds, fungii, parasites, toxins and other pathogens caused by root canals.

Daughter of Time
28th June 2012, 02:13
I've
The solution, according to this holistic dentist who is way ahead of most other holistic dentists, is to shoot ozone into the root canal every six months or so. Ozone kills bacteria, fungii, moulds, parasites and other pathogens that result from root canals. So I have ozone shot into my root canals every time I have my teeth cleaned. The cost is approximately $50.00 per ozone shot.

if .

when you get those ozone injections does your doc inject novacain first? can you tell me what gamma he uses and how many cc of gas in the syringe. Maybe you dont know off hand but if you could find out next time Id appreciate it.

I am a trained ozone therapist but have never done dental stuff and it was not included in my course. But I am finding that MMS can replace much of the effectiveness of ozone for many different issues. MMS mouth washes can do much and it does penetrate the gums.



I still don't know what gamma is used nor how many cc of gas are in the syringe but I found an informational piece of paper which says that procaine is injected first otherwise shooting the ozone without it would be extremely painful.

Abhaya
2nd March 2013, 23:20
I am thinking seriously about having my ten year old root canal tooth pulled. At this point it is not causing me any pain, however I have read article after article stating that it is only a matter of time until they start leeching the worst of toxins into your body. I have been on the cusp of having this done many times. And I really feel like my body is telling me to get rid of it. The problem is I will not have money to pay for a insert or bridge to correct the resultent gap (2nd to last molar). And am considering doing nothing after the tooth is pulled... I understand what will happen is the back most molar will slowly begin to lean into the gap. And over a long long time the tooth above will begin to grow since the missing tooth wont wear it down any more. I can deal with this I think. But I would really really love and appreciate any advice from all any one and everyone. Thanks you to anyone who takes any time on this thread :)

Daughter of Time
2nd March 2013, 23:34
I understand your concern.

I have two root canals and I am concerned about mine also and the ill effects they can have on one's health.

A few years ago I started seeing a holistic dentist. Expensive? Yes! But worth it if at all possible.

My holistic dentist rarely performs root canals because she agrees they are bad and everthing possible should be done before such a procedure. She uses laser therapy to avoid root canals. But for those who have already had root canals before they see her, she injects ozone into the root canal. The ozone kills bacteria, molds, fungii and parasites produced by root canals. I have ozone shot into my root canals every 6 months. It's around $60.00 per tooth.

If this sounds like a potential solution for you and you can find a holistic dentist in your area, then I think perhaps you owe it to yourself to investigate before making a final decision on the matter.

May you make the best decision for you.

Good luck!

ThePythonicCow
2nd March 2013, 23:36
I am in the process of having my half dozen root canal treated teeth removed. Four out, two to go. I had had them for one to several decades, and they were becoming infected. One was particularly bad, and I have felt much better since having it removed. The toxins from the infection were apparently what was destroying my hearing (my ears are my weak link.) I was also getting a bit of mental fog, making it more difficult to say focused when driving ... got in one minor car accident that way. There were no local symptoms of any problem, no pain or swelling or anything. Just the problems elsewhere in my body from the toxic overload.

Fortunately I've been able to afford bridges where needed so far.

A key thing to focus on is getting a dentist who will aggressively clean out the socket, after removing the tooth, including an extra millimeter of good bone to be sure. Just pulling a tooth likely won't fix the problem.

Kiforall
3rd March 2013, 00:01
I had the first lower molar removed 14yrs ago because I couldn't afford root canal work.
The gap hasn't been a problem what so ever, no teeth have leaned into the gap and I've just had a good look and the upper tooth is still level with the others. Which I'm quite happy about because my dentist never warned me that that could happen.

vilcabamba
3rd March 2013, 04:29
I removed 8 mercury fillings. Prior to this i had all my teeth. Due to the stress of removing the mercury i lost two teeth in the back. To be honest..i was sooo upset at both having to be removed due to the infection from having my mercury removed. But..to be honest..i don't really notice it. You really can't tell that much of a difference. You just get used to it and it doesn't bother you at all. My mom removed her root canal teeth after getting a cancer diagnosis. And she doesn't have problems either with eating. She is doing well now after 6 years, and no signs of cancer 6 years later after all natural treatments.

Carmody
3rd March 2013, 05:10
I do the waterpik with MMS trick to kill infections between teeth, and down into the gums.

I think that it may also help here.

GarethBKK
3rd March 2013, 05:11
Pull away! Teeth are over-rated. My liquidizer is my best friend.

Had a very expensive bridge which I swallowed with a cheese sandwich :-(

GlassSteagallfan
3rd March 2013, 07:56
A key thing to focus on is getting a dentist who will aggressively clean out the socket, after removing the tooth, including an extra millimeter of good bone to be sure. Just pulling a tooth likely won't fix the problem.

Paul, why the extra bone? Do you mean part of the jaw bone?
Thx

wolf_rt
3rd March 2013, 08:03
I wouldn't worry about the hole. my upper tooth has moved down a little, but it causes no problems, and it causes me no issues with eating.

ThePythonicCow
3rd March 2013, 08:11
A key thing to focus on is getting a dentist who will aggressively clean out the socket, after removing the tooth, including an extra millimeter of good bone to be sure. Just pulling a tooth likely won't fix the problem.

Paul, why the extra bone? Do you mean part of the jaw bone?
Thx
Yes, I mean the bones that surrounded the tooth socket.

One wants to be sure to have removed all the infected bone, so one goes to good bone and a smidgen more.

If this would remove too much bone and risk weakening the jaw bone ... well hopefully your dentist knows more about what he's doing that I do :).

Lifebringer
3rd March 2013, 12:28
Tooth 13 upper, and before I could finish the proceedure because of finances, 3 weeks later it broke anyway. Had it removed. NO problems.

Abhaya
3rd March 2013, 15:26
A key thing to focus on is getting a dentist who will aggressively clean out the socket, after removing the tooth, including an extra millimeter of good bone to be sure. Just pulling a tooth likely won't fix the problem.

Paul, why the extra bone? Do you mean part of the jaw bone?
Thx
Yes, I mean the bones that surrounded the tooth socket.

One wants to be sure to have removed all the infected bone, so one goes to good bone and a smidgen more.

If this would remove too much bone and risk weakening the jaw bone ... well hopefully your dentist knows more about what he's doing that I do :).

So it's possible the bone can become infected from contact with the tooth and said infection could continue to spread after the tooth is removed? Also any one have any price estimated for removing a root canal tooth vs a regular tooth.

Wow thanks for all the advice. I'm confident now to get this toxic trap out of my mouth!

ThePythonicCow
3rd March 2013, 16:18
So it's possible the bone can become infected from contact with the tooth and said infection could continue to spread after the tooth is removed?
From what I've read, it's likely that infection from root canal treated teeth will eventually spread out into the bone, yes.


Also any one have any price estimated for removing a root canal tooth vs a regular tooth.
I don't know. I suspect that you won't find a published price difference, but that rather you will find it more difficult to find a dentist who routinely cleans out the socket properly after removing an infected tooth, and that such a dentist can and will likely charge more.

foreverfan
3rd March 2013, 17:23
2000-5000mg of vitamin C daily will get rid of most tooth infections. If you have root canals, this is highly recommended by my dentist friend. I take this dosage since it helps just about everything.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUpTK5YMt6o


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqZ0mjPsU1M

Bill Ryan
3rd March 2013, 17:31
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I had a molar root canal treatment 20 years ago, and 10 years ago was in line to have another. The holistic dentist I visited, in Edinburgh, did something extraordinary: she personally lent me a book of hers, urged me to read it overnight, and asked me to come back the next day. She said she would then do whatever I chose.

I read the book. It was about the work of Dr Weston Price. Search for "WESTON PRICE" + "ROOT CANAL TREATMENT".

What I should do became obvious. I asked her to remove both teeth (the one that had had the root canal treatment 10 years before, and the one that was now problematic).

The scientific evidence was overwhelming that root canal treatments can at least sometimes lead to serious chronic illness. It's all documented.

I've never missed the teeth, and have remained absolutely certain that I made the right decision.

DeDukshyn
3rd March 2013, 17:41
I'd get it pulled. If a tooth can be fixed simply and within reason. IMHO a root canal is not a reasonable solution at all - teeth are supposed to be alive - a root canal kills the tooth anyway by cutting off its blood supply. No sense in keeping dead teeth in your mouth. I am fortunate to have good teeth -- and I attribute that to the lack of dentists in my life (all visits in my 38 years can be counted on one hand).

Abhaya
3rd March 2013, 18:16
I'm staying in Houston right now working the Houston rodeo. Right across the street from the Texas school of dentistry. I think I'm going to try to get it done there. While the procedures are done by dental students they are overseen by top specialists. And the cost is much cheaper. Can't wait to get this thing out! Thanks everybody. Wish I had done this sooner!

blufire
3rd March 2013, 18:51
Just like amalgam fillings that contain mercury this topic of root canals has taken off and both true and misinformation has been rampantly spread. While I do believe all amalgams (mercury) fillings should be removed . . . I had mine removed . . . . I do not believe in the current fad of removing teeth that have root canals in them. If the tooth is causing no pain then leave it be.

I would like to offer a view from the ‘other’ side of this topic, the side of the actual medical dental field. Also, I have three root canals and have had them for around 20 years. My root canals have caused me absolutely no problem, infection or pain.

I worked in the dental field for several years as a dental assistant. I was the one sitting on the other side of the patient from the doctor assisting him in all dental procedures . . . .which included hundreds of root canal procedures. As the assistant I was also responsible for ordering all supplies for the office and laboratories.

The main thing needed to fill the canals of the tooth after the nerve and infected tissue was remove are tiny long slivers of pure silver (99.9 %). These silver slivers were sized according to the size of the canal in the tooth. When the dentist found the best size for the tooth canal I then mixed a type of cement that the sliver was rolled in and this was inserted into the tooth. An x-ray was taken to make sure the canals were correctly and completely filled and then the tooth was temporarily sealed for a wait of about 1 to 2 months, if the patient was relieved from all pain from the infected or broken tooth then the tooth was prepared for a crown and all is well.

There are other alternatives to using ‘silver’ for filling the root canals and I suspect this is the problem for some patients . . . .unlike the silver the alternative are thin ‘plastic’ fillers that are difficult to use and properly insert. Ask for the silver root canal fillers.

I also suspect that for many they do not care properly for a tooth that has had a root canal like not having a crown placed over the tooth or not properly flossing and brushing around the crown which then sets up decay and infection which quickly explodes into major systemic infection when it is trapped under the crown of the root canal tooth. Because the tooth is “dead” you feel no pain and so the infection can fester for years before the tooth becomes so decayed it breaks off. So you body is constantly fighting a low grade infection.

I have noticed and am very surprised over the years of being on the forum how many threads have popped up about the correct way of caring for your teeth and mouth . . . .Illie Pandia comes to mind most recently with infected gums.

Not all dental procedures are bad or a conspiracy . . . .do your homework there are options to jerking out all your teeth.

We are after all a forum the is both spiritual and scientific right?? (banner)

blufire
3rd March 2013, 18:55
I'm staying in Houston right now working the Houston rodeo. Right across the street from the Texas school of dentistry. I think I'm going to try to get it done there. While the procedures are done by dental students they are overseen by top specialists. And the cost is much cheaper. Can't wait to get this thing out! Thanks everybody. Wish I had done this sooner!

Oh good lord . . . .that statement is so wrong on many levels. Those who can’t do (many times) . . . . teach and are definitely not specialists.

Abhaya
3rd March 2013, 19:34
I'm staying in Houston right now working the Houston rodeo. Right across the street from the Texas school of dentistry. I think I'm going to try to get it done there. While the procedures are done by dental students they are overseen by top specialists. And the cost is much cheaper. Can't wait to get this thing out! Thanks everybody. Wish I had done this sooner!

Oh good lord . . . .that statement is so wrong on many levels. Those who can’t do (many times) . . . . teach and are definitely not specialists.

Thanks for the alternate views. I mean if I could leave it that would be the most ideal. There are many testimonies I've seen however where people have no pain yet but do have a large toxic build up. And have other issues as a result of the toxins mental fog hearing loss and more. I feel like if its out, there will be no chance of any down the road toxic build ups at all.

Also thanks for the advice on the dental school. I guess my post sounded like I was promoting them, and I was excited as it sounded like a maybe a good option. But I was hoping for advice on that too. Being that you were in the dental field, are there some horror stories from the dental schools? Any input would be appreciated :)

ThePythonicCow
3rd March 2013, 20:20
Just like amalgam fillings that contain mercury this topic of root canals has taken off and both true and misinformation has been rampantly spread.
Disagree we do, but that doesn't mean that the concerns of myself and others with root canals are rampant disinformation :).

ThePythonicCow
3rd March 2013, 20:36
I would like to offer a view from the ‘other’ side of this topic, the side of the actual medical dental field. Also, I have three root canals and have had them for around 20 years. My root canals have caused me absolutely no problem, infection or pain.
I had a half dozen root canals, that never caused any pain or any infection evident in the mouth, even to a dentist, prior to being pulled. As I have noted before, there was infection, deep in the socket (not under the crown), which was causing me substantial health problems. I was losing three or four days a month, prior to starting the extractions, unable to get further than my bedroom or bathroom. I was becoming reluctant to schedule appointments outside my home, or to drive, for fear I wouldn't be able to complete the drive without the services of an ambulance (which I can ill afford.)

Extraction of the worst (as seen in the socket, once extracted) of them nearly a year ago now effected an immediate and complete cure of those health problems.

This article responds to the points you make, based on your considerable experience and education in this matter, better than I can respond: Why You Should Avoid Root Canals Like the Plague (http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig5/mercola78.1.html). It is an interview of Dr. George Meinig, by Dr. Joseph Mercola, reposted on LewRockwell.com.

blufire
3rd March 2013, 21:16
Just like amalgam fillings that contain mercury this topic of root canals has taken off and both true and misinformation has been rampantly spread.
Disagree we do, but that doesn't mean that the concerns of myself and others with root canals are rampant disinformation :).

Hi Paul,

I have read much of the material that is out there in the alternative media about root canals and I agree and disagree with different points because of not only my own personal experience with endodontics but my hands on professional experience. The alternative information is exactly why I had my amalgam (mercury) fillings removed and had ceramic fillings and/or crowns put in their place. But much of the info on root canals do not ring as true.

I am not in anyway invalidating your experience or any other person that may be having problems directly to or as a peripheral symptom of endodontic procedures.

I only want to offer the ‘other side’. I do want to impress what I said about making sure your dentist or endodontist uses the pure silver (99.9%) endodontic points to fill the canals of the root. See the website links below Also, to fully inderstand how to care for the tooth that has had a root canal.

Dead teeth . . . . .teeth that no longer have a blood supply via the nerve canals to the tooth . . . . are perfectly fine and healthy to remain in the body. They will NOT rot away merely because it is ‘dead’ and no longer has a blood supply.

You may ask what is my proof . . . . look at any skeleton . . . what remains? no matter how old it is and especially if it has been preserved in some manner.

Bones and Teeth. :p :becky:


http://www.pattersondental.com/Supplies/ProductItemFamily/86339/Endodontic-Points-and-Medicaments/?ss=0&d=0&s=0&ps=24&p=0&sf=&ssf=376&vf=&pf=&mcf=

silver endodonic points . . . . the good ones to use . . . ask your dentist to use these

http://www.pattersondental.com/Supplies/ProductItemFamily/86339/Endodontic-Points-and-Medicaments/?ss=0&d=0&s=0&ps=24&p=0&sf=&ssf=373&vf=&pf=&mcf=

gutta percha points . . . . do not use But these are the ones most commonly used.

ThePythonicCow
3rd March 2013, 21:26
Dead teeth . . . . .teeth that no longer have a blood supply via the nerve canals to the tooth . . . . are perfectly fine and healthy to remain in the body. They will NOT rot away merely because it is ‘dead’ and no longer has a blood supply.

You may ask what is my proof . . . . look at any skeleton . . . what remains? no matter how old it is and especially if it has been preserved in some manner.

True :). The hard parts of bones and teeth don't rot.

The bacteria live in the many small spaces within the bones and teeth, which are neither well enough isolated from the rest of the body to not matter at all, nor well enough drained and circulated by the normal body mechanisms (due to the removal of the tooth pulp) to remain healthy.

And, yes, I had gutta percha points, not silver.

Anchor
3rd March 2013, 23:34
Like so much in life, there is no complete understanding, and there is no proof one way or the other.

Some root canals work and others don't. I have one that worked perfectly, and one that didn't and ended up being an extraction.

In making the final decision about what to do, one must be guided by that still quiet voice within.

Abhaya
4th March 2013, 04:11
Any one have any experiance with recovery time and pain levels after the surgery? If they need to go down to the bone and scrape I'm assuming its going to be a little sore.. :0. I am kinda hoping I can go back to work the next day though so maybe that's unreasonable....

Anchor
4th March 2013, 04:37
Any one have any experiance with recovery time and pain levels after the surgery? If they need to go down to the bone and scrape I'm assuming its going to be a little sore.. :0. I am kinda hoping I can go back to work the next day though so maybe that's unreasonable....

Extraction doesn't need to be surgery. I didnt even have stitches.

I remember when I had the extraction for the tooth with the failed root canal work, it would not come out. I had been offered a full KO, but I don't like that - I said just kill the feeling but I want to stay awake.

I was in a semi-drugged state and I remember noticing that the tooth didn't want to let go and the Dentist was having all kinds of drama with it.

In my mind I had a conversation with the tooth - "It is ok, you did a good job, but I have decided to let you go, its ok, you can let go, please let go" and no sooner had I said that the roots gave and the dentist breathed a sigh of relief - he said that he did not think it would come out and that he was going to have to go "surgical". He also said that it was good that it came out because I had a large abscess underneath and the next job was getting all the poison out and cleaning everything.

If I had been fully under I would not have had this opportunity, however I was pain free - however that does not stop your hearing, and there are all sorts of crunching noises that are quite "interesting" - your view may vary :)

In terms of recovery time, it took 2hrs to stop bleeding and the next five were biting on a hard cotton swab in the gap.

I had to do a course of antibiotics, which lasted about 8 days.

tnkayaker
4th March 2013, 06:10
hello Abhaya, im dennis, i have had much dental work and ongoing dental work on my mouth over the course of my life, numerous root canals and crowns, i have learned this , no more porcelain crowns only GOLD lol , they last longer and will not chip, the extra cost initially is worth the longevity, i have no dental insurance so i feel for you, i feel this way about things, lisgten to your body, if the tooth is giving you problems, then get rid of it or get it worked on, possibly get the root canal re-done and get a new gold crown put on it, instead of loosing it altogether, the other option is to get it pulled then have a partial removable prosthesis made with just that tooth in the piece so you can wear it when eating then leave it in the rest of the time or just put it in and leave it in , in the beginning of each day, i opted for the removal of the back molar with deteriorating tooth w/ a crown on it years ago and i just deal with no tooth there, it is a bit of a pain but the tooth could not be re-worked , cant afford a post with new crown on it, im not sure if you or anyone realizes but when you have the oral surgery, thats just for the post, then they have to do another process to prep you for the crown which is another cost factor, so all in all it may cost as much as 3 - 5 thousand bucks, way more than i can spend on a tooth in this economy, i am a small business owner so i scrutinize the cost of everything lol well if i can be of anymore help please get in touch with me, i hope i helped and didnt add to an already delicate issue, peace,dennis

tnkayaker
4th March 2013, 06:19
Re: Pulling root canal tooth need advice!
Any one have any experiance with recovery time and pain levels after the surgery? If they need to go down to the bone and scrape I'm assuming its going to be a little sore.. :0. I am kinda hoping I can go back to work the next day though so maybe that's unreasonable.... I was back to work the next afternoon on some of the root canals but because i have gas when i get my teeth worked on,not to mention my teeth do not get numb very easily and i have to have more injections than most people, so i usually go home and lie down the rest of the day and rest up for the next day , instead of feeling drowsy that afternoon after the dentist visit. it kinda depends on the person , most people shake it off pretty quickly, i would find a younger newer dentist as a suggestion, i found a gal just out of dental school and she is just great, with all the newest techniques and knowledge that has come out recently and there is some new stuff the new dentists are learning, so it is encouraging even though the cost is not going down any .....

ThePythonicCow
4th March 2013, 06:32
Any one have any experiance with recovery time and pain levels after the surgery? If they need to go down to the bone and scrape I'm assuming its going to be a little sore.. :0. I am kinda hoping I can go back to work the next day though so maybe that's unreasonable
I didn't notice much discomfort, and would easily have gone back to work the next day, or even the same afternoon (well, except for being retired and not having a job to go back to.) But I numb easily, and sometimes even skip the local anesthesia for light drilling, as I don't notice dental pain much.

Clearly however my situation is not the same as yours.

Abhaya
4th March 2013, 13:30
hello Abhaya, im dennis, i have had much dental work and ongoing dental work on my mouth over the course of my life, numerous root canals and crowns, i have learned this , no more porcelain crowns only GOLD lol , they last longer and will not chip, the extra cost initially is worth the longevity, i have no dental insurance so i feel for you, i feel this way about things, lisgten to your body, if the tooth is giving you problems, then get rid of it or get it worked on, possibly get the root canal re-done and get a new gold crown put on it, instead of loosing it altogether, the other option is to get it pulled then have a partial removable prosthesis made with just that tooth in the piece so you can wear it when eating then leave it in the rest of the time or just put it in and leave it in , in the beginning of each day, i opted for the removal of the back molar with deteriorating tooth w/ a crown on it years ago and i just deal with no tooth there, it is a bit of a pain but the tooth could not be re-worked , cant afford a post with new crown on it, im not sure if you or anyone realizes but when you have the oral surgery, thats just for the post, then they have to do another process to prep you for the crown which is another cost factor, so all in all it may cost as much as 3 - 5 thousand bucks, way more than i can spend on a tooth in this economy, i am a small business owner so i scrutinize the cost of everything lol well if i can be of anymore help please get in touch with me, i hope i helped and didnt add to an already delicate issue, peace,dennis

Thanks for the reply. Can you clarify what issues you had when you had the molar removed? Was it the second to last molar that you removed also?

blufire
4th March 2013, 16:43
Abhaya, your profile says you are 28. You are way too young to start extracting teeth that at this point (as you said) are causing you no problem.

May I suggest a logical or more balanced approach to this root canal dilemma is that since the tooth is causing no problems and you are feeling no ill effects that you simply save up enough money to be able to replace the extracted area with a bridge. At the point you have the money to have a bridge put in that you then extract the tooth, if at that point you still feel the need.

Alternative medicine and information is not always the right way . . . . no more or less . . . than science and conventional medicine is always the wrong way.

Balance in all things . . . . find the good and right in both worlds and meld the two.


And with that thought Abhaya, I am going to confront you on something I have noticed in your postings.

You have been extremely confrontational on threads regarding meat eaters and the ‘V’s”. You have been very vocal and condemning against omnivores and any type of animal cruelty. You have also said you are a monk living in a tropical (I think) location and are embracing that lifestyle . . . . . so could you please explain this (seemingly) very hypocritical post of yours?


I'm staying in Houston right now working the Houston rodeo. Right across the street from the Texas school of dentistry. I think I'm going to try to get it done there. While the procedures are done by dental students they are overseen by top specialists. And the cost is much cheaper. Can't wait to get this thing out! Thanks everybody. Wish I had done this sooner!

You have traveled to Houston to work a rodeo???? So either you are actually working some aspect of the rodeo which would even vicariously involve you in an event that has the potential of being very cruel to livestock or you are there protesting the rodeo . . . . .and the latter I highly doubt . . . . animal activists would not last 5 minutes deep in the heart of Texas at a rodeo.

Wanna explain this little interesting seemingly hypocritical situation?

Abhaya
4th March 2013, 17:18
Abhaya, your profile says you are 28. You are way too young to start extracting teeth that at this point (as you said) are causing you no problem.

May I suggest a logical or more balanced approach to this root canal dilemma is that since the tooth is causing no problems and you are feeling no ill effects that you simply save up enough money to be able to replace the extracted area with a bridge. At the point you have the money to have a bridge put in that you then extract the tooth, if at that point you still feel the need.

Alternative medicine and information is not always the right way . . . . no more or less . . . than science and conventional medicine is always the wrong way.

Balance in all things . . . . find the good and right in both worlds and meld the two.


And with that thought Abhaya, I am going to confront you on something I have noticed in your postings.

You have been extremely confrontational on threads regarding meat eaters and the ‘V’s”. You have been very vocal and condemning against omnivores and any type of animal cruelty. You have also said you are a monk living in a tropical (I think) location and are embracing that lifestyle . . . . . so could you please explain this (seemingly) very hypocritical post of yours?


I'm staying in Houston right now working the Houston rodeo. Right across the street from the Texas school of dentistry. I think I'm going to try to get it done there. While the procedures are done by dental students they are overseen by top specialists. And the cost is much cheaper. Can't wait to get this thing out! Thanks everybody. Wish I had done this sooner!

You have traveled to Houston to work a rodeo???? So either you are actually working some aspect of the rodeo which would even vicariously involve you in an event that has the potential of being very cruel to livestock or you are there protesting the rodeo . . . . .and the latter I highly doubt . . . . animal activists would not last 5 minutes deep in the heart of Texas at a rodeo.

Wanna explain this little interesting seemingly hypocritical situation?

I sell bed sheets at large sales venues. Fairs home and garden shows rodeos etc. it's a pretty mundane job. But actually generates some good money. Of which I try to donate as much as I can to the monestary I spend alot of time. While I was living as a monk for some time, at this time I am not. I am still a very active member though and spend time selling sheets to raise funds for my friends who live there full time. I agree 100% that rodeos are awful. I work in a sales building which really had no part in the rodeo. Might as well be a giant mall or something. And don't worry I'm not attending the rodeo after work. Could I look for a new job that didn't once in a while inadvertently cross paths with rodeos. Maybe. Any way like I said I'm a nice guy on most threads. So no need to argue here. I'll meet up with you next time someone starts a meat vs veggie debate ;)

Thanks for the advice on the teeth. I am weighing your advice seriously. As is does sound odd for a 28 year old to yank a tooth out. Your right. But I still don't know. It seems like its only a matter of time until toxic build up causes problems. And it has been there for a decade now. So I am also thinking why wait. And most people here say they had no issues with the one missing tooth. Waiting for a reply from that one guy though.

4evrneo
4th March 2013, 23:15
Having 2 mercury filled teeth removed, although the dentist wanted to do 2 root canals. From the research I have done and the advice I have gotten, I decided to just remove them. One is out already and getting the 2nd out soon. Havent had any issues with not having a tooth missing 2nd from the back. Not even sure I will get the partial yet becuase I really havent had any issues since the first one was removed. There are no problems chewing food etc.

I am very happy with the decision and my body feels better too.

Black Panther
5th March 2013, 17:18
I have had my second root canal treatment (the second one next
to the other one) and I have stomach issues too. Because we have holographic
bodies our teeth correspond with other parts of our body and 'coïncidently'
the place of my root canal treatments correspond with my stomach and millt.
I don't know who is the chicken or who is the egg, but I know they are hurting
eachother.

I have been to a holistic dentist and he told me the amalgam fillings aren't a
real problem and they can be replaced when the time is ready, but he saw
there was a problem at the place of the molars with the root canal treatment
and with my stomach.

He also said a root canal treatment is never a good solution and I think so too.
If you just kill the nerves you won't feel anything anymore, but we feel
pain to tell us there is something wrong. There is no real pain anymore,
but I think in a lot of cases there will be an infection after some time.
Especially because we don't feel pain there can be a lot of toxins
entering the blood on a daily basis without us noticing it. I don't feel
real pain, but it doesn't feel good either. I massage my gland on the side
of the treated molars a lot of the time, because it is working hard to clean.

The current dentist told me I need another root canal treatment (third one),
but I just asked for a normal filling. I will think about what to do with
the treated molars and I will probably go to a holistic dentist in the future.

As we are holographic beings every small problem plays an important
role in our overall health:

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_industryhealthiermedica113.htm

Abhaya
5th March 2013, 22:18
Any one have issues with nonholistic dentists refusing to extract teeth based on these concerns. May be tough in my case to get to a holistic dentist.

tnkayaker
7th March 2013, 08:06
just an added addendum to earlier posts, the best thing to do is get it over with as soon as possible, sitting around doting or thinking about it, has ALWAYS been worse than just getting it over with, cowboy up and go sit in the chair and tell the Doc to give you extra gas and local injections and get them over with in the beginning, then its all over but the dreaming lol well more or less, just tell him to turn up the gas a bit please and before you know it, you will be standing at the check out counter and they will be asking how much you can pay today....good luck bud, peace,dennis

tnkayaker
7th March 2013, 08:12
find a new dentist, its your mouth, get done what you need to get done, you dont need to hear excuses if your in pain, you dont need excuses if your mouth is bothering you. if this is an issue you want or need to discuss, maybe you may want to find a psychologist to discuss your concerns, i know if i am hurting , im gonna get it taken care of cuz there is nothing worse than mouth pain, well other than lower back pain,, i know about both first hand thank you. good luck buddy, peace.

psydney
14th March 2013, 06:25
Abhaya
I’d like to add a bit on this topic from my personal experience that may help you at present and/or in the future. Will try to keep this as brief as possible.

A few years ago I had a serious toothache that I endured for a month while travelling in Turkey, till I could get back to Sydney and see my dentist. My dentist tapped the tooth, which was very sensitive, an indication of infection and that the root was dying. He laid out four options: 1) a root canal – not recommended; 2) a titanium post implant – expensive and time-consuming, and could produce unwanted electromagnetic effects; 3) a dental bridge – involving damaging the two teeth on either side of the extracted tooth; and 4) an extraction – leaving a gap that could lead to movement of other teeth.

I thought all the alternatives were unacceptable and decided to try out an energetic healing method and dietary changes to get rid of toxins and infection.

My dentist did give me an article by Weston Price, which I followed up, reading his book entitled Nutrition and physical degeneration (http://gutenberg.net.au/ebooks02/0200251h.html), about traditional societies around the world where perfect teeth were the norm. I incorporated foods mentioned that were practical and available (some were not, such as the adrenal glands of a moose). The book is online, however as it is 900+ pages, I checked out a copy from the library.

At the same time, I applied an energetic healing modality I had learnt, to scan for toxins, bacteria etc, clear them, and energise the root. After about two months of doing this four to five times a day, plus the diet, the tooth was fine and I didn’t need a dental procedure – I was amazed that it worked. I also saved a lot of money – the only cost was the appointment with my dentist.

If you’re open to using energetic healing to clear the toxins, and want to save money, there’s a DIY book called Your hands can heal you, by Co & Robbins, that is often available at the library. Also, there are numerous energy healing modalities to choose from, and courses and treatments tend to be expensive.

My intention is not to promote any particular modalities, but just to suggest that you might consider healing and dietary options, which you could get from your library for free. Hope this helps, and best of luck with whichever option you choose.

taotetim
14th March 2013, 11:08
keep us informed in what you do as im in the same situation, i found root canal has just stalled the enevitable but i didnt know how bad it was espically after learning doctor john rays information, bridges end up putting stress on the teeth next to the damaged tooth and will fail in time. in australia dentists are massive expensive so i feel for ya, if it is a molar i would do what bill done and remove it otherwise get a titanium implant if you have money and can afford it and cant handle a missing tooth. its amazing we have space stations and 18000 satalites in space but cant denistry is basicly the same since mid last century cant wait until they can make a new tooth.

Abhaya
14th March 2013, 12:46
Abhaya
I’d like to add a bit on this topic from my personal experience that may help you at present and/or in the future. Will try to keep this as brief as possible.

A few years ago I had a serious toothache that I endured for a month while travelling in Turkey, till I could get back to Sydney and see my dentist. My dentist tapped the tooth, which was very sensitive, an indication of infection and that the root was dying. He laid out four options: 1) a root canal – not recommended; 2) a titanium post implant – expensive and time-consuming, and could produce unwanted electromagnetic effects; 3) a dental bridge – involving damaging the two teeth on either side of the extracted tooth; and 4) an extraction – leaving a gap that could lead to movement of other teeth.

I thought all the alternatives were unacceptable and decided to try out an energetic healing method and dietary changes to get rid of toxins and infection.

My dentist did give me an article by Weston Price, which I followed up, reading his book entitled Nutrition and physical degeneration (http://gutenberg.net.au/ebooks02/0200251h.html), about traditional societies around the world where perfect teeth were the norm. I incorporated foods mentioned that were practical and available (some were not, such as the adrenal glands of a moose). The book is online, however as it is 900+ pages, I checked out a copy from the library.

At the same time, I applied an energetic healing modality I had learnt, to scan for toxins, bacteria etc, clear them, and energise the root. After about two months of doing this four to five times a day, plus the diet, the tooth was fine and I didn’t need a dental procedure – I was amazed that it worked. I also saved a lot of money – the only cost was the appointment with my dentist.

If you’re open to using energetic healing to clear the toxins, and want to save money, there’s a DIY book called Your hands can heal you, by Co & Robbins, that is often available at the library. Also, there are numerous energy healing modalities to choose from, and courses and treatments tend to be expensive.

My intention is not to promote any particular modalities, but just to suggest that you might consider healing and dietary options, which you could get from your library for free. Hope this helps, and best of luck with whichever option you choose.

Totally agree and use natural remedies to keep my mouth in good health currently. But the tooth in question now already has a root canal. It was done before I knew any better. So I'm thinking that because it is already a dead tooth that the above mentioned remedies would be too late. What do you think?

Lone Bean
14th March 2013, 13:06
I had a root canal done about 3 year ago and ever since then I've had chronic post nasal drip. I swear I think it's because of that root canal.

ljwheat
14th March 2013, 13:10
Here is a video on Homesis, about 2 m into the video he talks about teeth healing.

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Abhaya
14th March 2013, 17:20
Whoa I have the same symptom! Seriously it's embarrassing some times I'll be talking to someone and my nose just leaks out a few drops. Lol never thought to relate that to the tooth.

Whoops this is in reply to the nasal drip comment of course

ThePythonicCow
14th March 2013, 22:41
otherwise get a titanium implant
The worst problem I had in my jaw was surrounding a titanium implant, worse than any of the half dozen root canals I had :).

See further Be VERY Careful When Replacing Missing Teeth (http://www.drlinagarcia.com/view_articles.php,t=22), and perhaps consider ceramic (zirconium) rather than titanium implants. Also find a dentist who will properly clean out the cavity, following tooth removal, before putting something expensive in its place.

tnkayaker
15th March 2013, 00:21
OMG ,my heart goes out to you my friend, i have spent thousands on root canals amd crowns, and new root canals to re-do the old ones and more new crowns, WHAT A RACKET! LOL oh well it is what it is, i always seem to be in the middle of some procedure so i cant get dental insurance at that tme blah blah blah, oh well i just deal with it along the way somehow, yeh i make money then i pay it to the tooth doctor and pick up some ramen noodles on the way home for din din , ho hum ho hum, oh yeh that and a cheap six pack, hey what else in life is there i ask you... a cheap 5.9 percent alcohol 6 no 12 pack and a few 5 dollar a gallon -gallons of gas to get me home and off i go, to an old and over-priced rental house and my three doggies lovingly awaiting my ever appreciative return to my family i love so dearly, lmfao, oh dont forget the doggie treats, i never forget the doggie treats, im just a softie when it comes to my babies, hehe stay well guys, peace,dennis

psydney
16th March 2013, 10:06
Totally agree and use natural remedies to keep my mouth in good health currently. But the tooth in question now already has a root canal. It was done before I knew any better. So I'm thinking that because it is already a dead tooth that the above mentioned remedies would be too late. What do you think?

You can use energetic healing to scan to see whether there is any buildup of toxins or infection, and then clear it. With the root canal, there's no nerve to indicate any pain associated with toxins/infection, so you don't know if there's a problem, or not. So yes, scanning is useful now.

As regards the Weston Price book, it can be useful in preventing future problems.

happyexpat
19th March 2013, 17:46
I have a root canal tooth, and another tooth that had a pretty serious cavity. Had all the nasty junk taken out of my teeth a few years ago.

I still had a lot of tooth sensitivity and such.

Since brushing my teeth with MMS and gargling with MMS, all of the pain went away. I'm keeping my root canal tooth unless I decide to have it replaced. I'm not concerned at all about infection because the MMS took care of the deep infection. If they became sensitive again or anything like that, I would consider doing a low dose course of MMS.

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and P.S. MMS is really cheap if you just buy the powder and mix it yourself.

Abhaya
19th March 2013, 21:11
What is mms?

onawah
25th November 2013, 08:23
http://www.realfarmacy.com/97-of-terminal-cancer-patients-previously-had-this-dental-procedure/
97% of Terminal Cancer Patients Previously Had This Dental Procedure…
by Dr. Mercola


Do you have a chronic degenerative disease? If so, have you been told, “It’s all in your head?”
Well, that might not be that far from the truth… the root cause of your illness may be in your mouth.
There is a common dental procedure that nearly every dentist will tell you is completely safe, despite the fact that scientists have been warning of its dangers for more than 100 years.
Every day in the United States alone, 41,000 of these dental procedures are performed on patients who believe they are safely and permanently fixing their problem.
What is this dental procedure?

The root canal.
More than 25 million root canals are performed every year in this country.

Root-canaled teeth are essentially “dead” teeth that can become silent incubators for highly toxic anaerobic bacteria that can, under certain conditions, make their way into your bloodstream to cause a number of serious medical conditions—many not appearing until decades later.

Most of these toxic teeth feel and look fine for many years, which make their role in systemic disease even harder to trace back.

Sadly, the vast majority of dentists are oblivious to the serious potential health risks they are exposing their patients to, risks that persist for the rest of their patients’ lives. The American Dental Association claims root canals have been proven safe, but they have NO published data or actual research to substantiate this claim.

Fortunately, I had some early mentors like Dr. Tom Stone and Dr. Douglas Cook, who educated me on this issue nearly 20 years ago. Were it not for a brilliant pioneering dentist who, more than a century ago, made the connection between root-canaled teeth and disease, this underlying cause of disease may have remained hidden to this day. The dentist’s name was Weston Price—regarded by many as the greatest dentist of all time.

Weston A. Price: World’s Greatest Dentist

Most dentists would be doing an enormous service to public health if they familiarized themselves with the work of Dr. Weston Price. Unfortunately, his work continues to be discounted and suppressed by medical and dental professionals alike.

Dr. Price was a dentist and researcher who traveled the world to study the teeth, bones, and diets of native populations living without the “benefit” of modern food. Around the year 1900, Price had been treating persistent root canal infections and became suspicious that root-canaled teeth always remained infected, in spite of treatments. Then one day, he recommended to a woman, wheelchair bound for six years, to have her root canal tooth extracted, even though it appeared to be fine.

She agreed, so he extracted her tooth and then implanted it under the skin of a rabbit. The rabbit amazingly developed the same crippling arthritis as the woman and died from the infection 10 days later. But the woman, now free of the toxic tooth, immediately recovered from her arthritis and could now walk without even the assistance of a cane.

Price discovered that it’s mechanically impossible to sterilize a root-canaled (e.g. root-filled) tooth.
He then went on to show that many chronic degenerative diseases originate from root-filled teeth—the most frequent being heart and circulatory diseases. He actually found 16 different causative bacterial agents for these conditions. But there were also strong correlations between root-filled teeth and diseases of the joints, brain and nervous system. Dr. Price went on to write two groundbreaking books in 1922 detailing his research into the link between dental pathology and chronic illness. Unfortunately, his work was deliberately buried for 70 years, until finally one endodontist named George Meinig recognized the importance of Price’s work and sought to expose the truth.

Dr. Meinig Advances the Work of Dr. Price

Dr. Meinig, a native of Chicago, was a captain in the U.S. Army during World War II before moving to Hollywood to become a dentist for the stars. He eventually became one of the founding members of the American Association of Endodontists (root canal specialists).

In the 1990s, he spent 18 months immersed in Dr. Price’s research. In June of 1993, Dr. Meinig published the book Root Canal Cover-Up, which continues to be the most comprehensive reference on this topic today. You can order your copy directly from the Price-Pottenger Foundationii.

What Dentists Don’t Know About the Anatomy of Your Teeth

Your teeth are made of the hardest substances in your body.

In the middle of each tooth is the pulp chamber, a soft living inner structure that houses blood vessels and nerves. Surrounding the pulp chamber is the dentin, which is made of living cells that secrete a hard mineral substance. The outermost and hardest layer of your tooth is the white enamel, which encases the dentin.

The roots of each tooth descend into your jawbone and are held in place by the periodontal ligament. In dental school, dentists are taught that each tooth has one to four major canals. However, there are accessory canals that are never mentioned. Literally miles of them!

Just as your body has large blood vessels that branch down into very small capillaries, each of your teeth has a maze of very tiny tubules that, if stretched out, would extend for three miles. Weston Price identified as many as 75 separate accessory canals in a single central incisor (front tooth). For a more detailed explanation, refer to an article by Hal Huggins, DDS, MS, on the Weston A. Price Foundation website.iii (These images are borrowed from the Huggins article.)

Microscopic organisms regularly move in and around these tubules, like gophers in underground tunnels.

When a dentist performs a root canal, he or she hollows out the tooth, then fills the hollow chamber with a substance (called guttapercha), which cuts off the tooth from its blood supply, so fluid can no longer circulate through the tooth. But the maze of tiny tubules remains. And bacteria, cut off from their food supply, hide out in these tunnels where they are remarkably safe from antibiotics and your own body’s immune defenses.

The Root Cause of Much Disease

Under the stresses of oxygen and nutrient deprivation, these formerly friendly organisms morph into stronger, more virulent anaerobes that produce a variety of potent toxins. What were once ordinary, friendly oral bacteria mutate into highly toxic pathogens lurking in the tubules of the dead tooth, just awaiting an opportunity to spread.

No amount of sterilization has been found effective in reaching these tubules—and just about every single root-canaled tooth has been found colonized by these bacteria, especially around the apex and in the periodontal ligament. Oftentimes, the infection extends down into the jawbone where it creates cavitations—areas of necrotic tissue in the jawbone itself.

Cavitations are areas of unhealed bone, often accompanied by pockets of infected tissue and gangrene. Sometimes they form after a tooth extraction (such as a wisdom tooth extraction), but they can also follow a root canal. According to Weston Price Foundation, in the records of 5,000 surgical cavitation cleanings, only two were found healed.

And all of this occurs with few, if any, accompanying symptoms. So you may have an abscessed dead tooth and not know it. This focal infection in the immediate area of the root-canaled tooth is bad enough, but the damage doesn’t stop there.

Root Canals Can Lead to Heart, Kidney, Bone, and Brain Disease

As long as your immune system remains strong, any bacteria that stray away from the infected tooth are captured and destroyed. But once your immune system is weakened by something like an accident or illness or other trauma, your immune system may be unable to keep the infection in check.

These bacteria can migrate out into surrounding tissues by hitching a ride into your blood stream, where they are transported to new locations to set up camp. The new location can be any organ or gland or tissue.

Dr. Price was able to transfer diseases harbored by humans to rabbits, by implanting fragments of root-canaled teeth, as mentioned above. He found that root canal fragments from a person who had suffered a heart attack, when implanted into a rabbit, would cause a heart attack in the rabbit within a few weeks.

He discovered he could transfer heart disease to the rabbit 100 percent of the time! Other diseases were more than 80 percent transferable by this method. Nearly every chronic degenerative disease has been linked with root canals, including:
-Heart disease
-Kidney disease
-Arthritis, joint, and rheumatic diseases
-Neurological diseases (including ALS and MS)
-Autoimmune diseases (Lupus and more)
There may also be a cancer connection. Dr. Robert Jones, a researcher of therelationship between root canals and breast cancer, found an extremely high correlation between root canals and breast cancer.iv He claims to have found the following correlations in a five-year study of 300 breast cancer cases:

-93 percent of women with breast cancer had root canals
-7 percent had other oral pathology
-Tumors, in the majority of cases, occurred on the same side of the body as the root canal(s) or other oral pathology
Dr. Jones claims that toxins from the bacteria in an infected tooth or jawbone are able to inhibit the proteins that suppress tumor development. A German physician reported similar findings. Dr. Josef Issels reported that, in his 40 years of treating “terminal” cancer patients, 97 percent of his cancer patients had root canals. If these physicians are correct, the cure for cancer may be as simple as having a tooth pulled, then rebuilding your immune system.

Good Bugs Gone Bad

How are these mutant oral bacteria connected with heart disease or arthritis? The ADA and the AAE claim it’s a “myth” that the bacteria found in and around root-canaled teeth can cause disease. But they base that on the misguided assumption that the bacteria in these diseased teeth are the SAME as normal bacteria in your mouth—and that’s clearly not the case.

Today, bacteria can be identified using DNA analysis, whether they’re dead or alive, from their telltale DNA signatures.

In a continuation of Dr. Price’s work, the Toxic Element Research Foundation (TERF) used DNA analysis to examine root-canal teeth, and they found bacterial contamination in 100 percent of the samples tested. They identified 42 different species of anaerobic bacteria in 43 root canal samples. In cavitations, 67 different bacteria were identified among the 85 samples tested, with individual samples housing between 19 to 53 types of bacteria each. The bacteria they found included the following types:

-Capnocytophagaochracea
-Fusobacteriumnucleatum
-Gemellamorbillorum
-Leptotrichiabuccalis
-Porphyromonasgingivalis
Are these just benign, ordinary mouth bugs? Absolutely not. Four can affect your heart, three can affect your nerves, two can affect your kidneys, two can affect your brain, and one can infect your sinus cavities… so they are anything BUT friendly! (If you want see just how unfriendly they can be, I invite you to investigate the footnotes.)

Approximately 400 percent more bacteria were found in the blood surrounding the root canal tooth than were found in the tooth itself, suggesting the tooth is the incubator and the periodontal ligament is the food supply. The bone surrounding root-canaled teeth was found even HIGHER in bacterial count… not surprising, since bone is virtual buffet of bacterial nutrients.

Since When is Leaving A Dead Body Part IN Your Body a Good Idea?

There is no other medical procedure that involves allowing a dead body part to remain in your body. When your appendix dies, it’s removed. If you get frostbite or gangrene on a finger or toe, it is amputated. If a baby dies in utero, the body typically initiates a miscarriage.

Your immune system doesn’t care for dead substances, and just the presence of dead tissue can cause your system to launch an attack, which is another reason to avoid root canals—they leave behind a dead tooth.

Infection, plus the autoimmune rejection reaction, causes more bacteria to collect around the dead tissue. In the case of a root canal, bacteria are given the opportunity to flush into your blood stream every time you bite down.

Why Dentists Cling to the Belief Root Canals are Safe

The ADA rejects Dr. Price’s evidence, claiming root canals are safe, yet they offer no published data or actual research to substantiate their claim. American Heart Association recommends a dose of antibiotics before many routine dental procedures to prevent infective endocarditis (IE) if you have certain heart conditions that predispose you to this type of infection.

So, on the one hand, the ADA acknowledges oral bacteria can make their way from your mouth to your heart and cause a life-threatening infection.

But at the same time, the industry vehemently denies any possibility that these same bacteria—toxic strains KNOWN to be pathogenic to humans—can hide out in your dead root-canaled tooth to be released into your blood stream every time you chew, where they can damage your health in a multitude of ways.

Is this really that large of a leap? Could there be another reason so many dentists, as well as the ADA and the AAE, refuse to admit root canals are dangerous? Well, yes, as a matter of fact, there is. Root canals are the most profitable procedure in dentistry.

What You Need to Know to AVOID a Root Canal

I strongly recommend never getting a root canal. Risking your health to preserve a tooth simply doesn’t make sense. Unfortunately, there are many people who’ve already have one. If you have, you should seriously consider having the tooth removed, even if it looks and feels fine. Remember, as soon as your immune system is compromised, your risk of of developing a serious medical problem increases—and assaults on your immune system are far too frequent in today’s world.

If you have a tooth removed, there are a few options available to you.
1)Partial denture: This is a removable denture, often just called a “partial.” It’s the simplest and least expensive option.
2)Bridge: This is a more permanent fixture resembling a real tooth but is a bit more involved and expensive to build.
3)Implant: This is a permanent artificial tooth, typically titanium, implanted in your gums and jaw. There are some problems with these due to reactions to the metals used. Zirconium is a newer implant material that shows promise for fewer complications.
But just pulling the tooth and inserting some sort of artificial replacement isn’t enough.

Dentists are taught to remove the tooth but leave your periodontal ligament. But as you now know, this ligament can serve as a breeding ground for deadly bacteria. Most experts who’ve studied this recommend removing the ligament, along with one millimeter of the bony socket, in order to drastically reduce your risk of developing an infection from the bacterially infected tissues left behind.



I strongly recommend consulting a biological dentist because they are uniquely trained to do these extractions properly and safely, as well as being adept at removing mercury fillings, if necessary. Their approach to dental care is far more holistic and considers the impact on your entire body—not JUST your mouth.

If you need to find a biological dentist in your area, I recommend visiting toxicteeth.org, a resource sponsored by Consumers for Dental Choice. This organization, championed by Charlie Brown, is a highly reputable organization that has fought to protect and educate consumers so that they can make better-informed decisions about their dental care. The organization also heads up the Campaign for Mercury-Free Dentistry.

Read more at http://www.realfarmacy.com/97-of-terminal-cancer-patients-previously-had-this-dental-procedure/#PzJDWFT6Ts3EBYW4.99

Lifebringer
25th November 2013, 10:36
Thank you, mine had to be removed about 4 years ago. Only had one, but it caused a lot of problems and wouldn't take, before it just chipped so low, they had to remove it. They talked me into it. I wanted it gone, but they said they could save it. It turned a deeper shade of grey and they offer to bleach it. Enough already charging for stuff that isn't safe or doesn't work. Anything for a buck has cost people many heart attacks, kidney failures and immune difficiencies, so they can expect to make lots of money, when the shtf time released to kill slowly.

A zombie tooth in action. LOL.

NoNeedForAName
25th November 2013, 12:06
Interesting. I have two root-canaled teeth. One seems fine but the other not. Sometimes I got sick (flu, for instance) and the last one hurts, which is quite strange, given the procedure done to it. More curious yet is that one time I asked a dentist to x-ray it for me using a digital equipament he has and that shows a lot more details than the usually machine found at dental clinics here at XXX that just "prints" your teeth on a black card and it showed dark spots that could be small infections... Something then was put inside this tooth, filled with fluoride, and now the situation is much better. But you know what people here says about fluoride...

Abhaya
25th November 2013, 12:21
Wow cool to see this thread this morning! I am just on my way to a biological dentist for my initial appointment towards getting my 10 year old root canal tooth extracted. After going to a traditional dentist and more or less getting yelled at for asking such a thing. (Actually he told me he thought mercury fillings were safe to, I kid u not) I am so happy to have found the julian center in Maryland. It makes no sense to leave dead rotting body parts in our person! Only a matter of time before it goes toxic IMO.

meeradas
25th November 2013, 14:16
I'm doomed...

Nasu
25th November 2013, 15:35
I'm doomed...

Me too, mouth like a pirate.. It's not about the state of ones health, in my opinion, life is about what we do and how we influence others.. I am consoled by the fact that, good teeth or bad, none of us are getting out of here alive, will keep brushing them none the less... N

Gatita
25th November 2013, 15:39
That's disturbingly enlightening. I've had three failed root canals. One of them caused an infection that landed me in the ER. The ER told me I should have gone back to my dentist instead. Somehow, I was able to remain calm while explaining that the dentist was not available at 4 a.m. on Sunday.

Gatita

conk
25th November 2013, 20:22
Holistic dentists are having success treating root canal bacterial infections or preventing them by use of ozone. The trick is to get the ozone into the extremely tiny pathways.

onawah
25th November 2013, 20:57
I have always had a sweet tooth, and lots of grinding my teeth from stress when I was younger, so I ended up with a number of cavities and a number of root canals.
The dentist who did most of them told me out front that he didn't know if they were really safe, and said he would advise having them pulled and getting dentures instead.
So I have to credit him for that, but I was in my 20s then, about 40 years ago when root canals weren't as common as today and the problems with them hadn't really been identified.
I finally had those teeth extracted a couple of years ago, and have been feeling much better, even though dentures aren't a lot of fun, either.
And I'm not so sure that implants are all that safe.
I wonder if stem cells might enable teeth to grow back.
Wouldn't that be nice!
:nhl_checking:

Lone Bean
25th November 2013, 21:12
I've had chronic post nasal drip of a very viscous quality ever since I had a root canal done about 3 and a half years ago. I told my doctor about 2 years ago that I thought the cause of my problem was my root canal and he could barely keep from laughing at me. I can tell when something is out of whack in my body and often can pinpoint the source. My husband yelled at me the other day when I mentioned having the tooth pulled. He said, "O.K.!!! JUST GO AHEAD AND THROW AWAY A $3,000 DOLLAR TOOTH!!! He thinks I'm silly for thinking my tooth is causing this chronic, super-nuisance of a problem, but I'll never have another r.c.

Deega
25th November 2013, 22:18
Holistic dentists are having success treating root canal bacterial infections or preventing them by use of ozone. The trick is to get the ozone into the extremely tiny pathways.



Thanks Conk, do you have any particular references to this?, I'm also concerned with root canal teeth.

AutumnW
25th November 2013, 23:43
It's hard to know how much of this is legit. It makes sense to me that if you had something that awful in your mouth, it would cause tremendous swelling and inflammation, that was noticeable in the gum area as well as showing up in your blood stream.

psydney
25th November 2013, 23:51
About three years ago, I had a severe toothache and was faced with having to have a root canal, so I read Weston Price's book, Nutrition and Physical Degeneration, first. After reading, I decided to postpone the root canal procedure, and started implementing some of his dietary findings, such as sourcing a supply of high vitamin butter, taking cod liver oil and eating organ meat, plus cutting out refined white flour and sugar, etc.

I then used energetic healing to clear the bacterial infection and regenerate the root (it was dying but not dead yet, thus causing pain). The healing technique also enables one to scan, so I was able to monitor progress in getting rid of the bacterial infection. My dentist's assistant phoned me and I told her what I was doing - surprisingly she was ok with it. It took about two months to clear everything.

After that, my tooth felt normal, I was able to eat anything, including nuts. Tapping the tooth did not cause any sensitivity. I haven't been back to the dentist since.

My point is that often, one can heal oneself. And it's an amazing exploration ...

Mulder
26th November 2013, 00:53
One thread says root canals are fine, another says they cause cancer - I'm wondering where all these opinions are coming from? One needs to put thought into their dentistry and consider the alternatives. For example, extracting a tooth in the middle of your upper or lower jaw will cause the other teeth around it to "fall into the hole" and your teeth will all move a little over time.
Also, talk to older people who have no teeth & see how hard it is for them to eat normal foods like meat or nuts, etc.

sandy
26th November 2013, 01:20
I have had top dentures and a partial in the bottom jaw since I was 17 years old. I eat everything especially nuts. The secret is in the fit and finding a Denturist .......not a dentist to facilitate the creation of your dentures.

My understanding is that Denturists, study making dentures and partials for 2 years before certification. A dentist may get 6 weeks if that so go to someone who specializes. Also, don`t stop going back until you have a fit that doesn`t hurt anywhere, make sores or move around with your food when you are chewing. Hope this helps.

People have always expressed surprise when they find out I wear dentures and for the most part I have never regretted having to get them at such a young age, not that they were even doing root canals when I was 17 hahahahha

conk
26th November 2013, 19:29
Holistic dentists are having success treating root canal bacterial infections or preventing them by use of ozone. The trick is to get the ozone into the extremely tiny pathways.



Thanks Conk, do you have any particular references to this?, I'm also concerned with root canal teeth.

Sorry, no. Have just read about it several times over the years.

avid
26th November 2013, 20:34
Having had 3 root canal treatments in the long-distant past - I now make my own colloidal silver nano-silver solution, which I use as a mouthwash daily during 'flare-ups'. Any 'niggles' are immediately quashed by this solution. I carry on rinsing 2 - 3 times a day with 30ml of solution, keep in mouth for about a minute after swooshing between teeth, then swallow. The nano-silver solution stays in your gut and kills any other nasties. How to diy - refer to Colloidal Silver and search on PA as there are many ways to do it. I have a machine, and distill my own water prior to electrolising the 99.9% pure silver rods with a 'bubble' activator for 3 hours. The solution keeps in a dark place (not refrigerated) in sealed glass-topped bottles for up to 6 months. I don't like advertising - but here is the machine I use : http://www.thesilveredge.com/howto.shtml There are many others on the market - so feel free to search them for yourselves.
I used to be taught to go to the dentist every 6 months - and they did so much unnecessary work costing us a fortune. Each time I went they 'loosened' a crown, or disturbed a nerve, I began to realise that with effective brushing, colloidal silver treatments rarely needed to be used - so my dentists vists were curtailed until absolutely necessary. When I returned - they marvelled at my healthy gums and teeth! Take care of yourself, and don't unnecessarily stuff the dentists' pocket. Oh - check your insurance in case it becomes void if you don't go regularly. I am not in that circumstance. Massage gums and brush ;-)

conk
27th November 2013, 18:34
Having had 3 root canal treatments in the long-distant past - I now make my own colloidal silver nano-silver solution, which I use as a mouthwash daily during 'flare-ups'. Any 'niggles' are immediately quashed by this solution. I carry on rinsing 2 - 3 times a day with 30ml of solution, keep in mouth for about a minute after swooshing between teeth, then swallow. The nano-silver solution stays in your gut and kills any other nasties. How to diy - refer to Colloidal Silver and search on PA as there are many ways to do it. I have a machine, and distill my own water prior to electrolising the 99.9% pure silver rods with a 'bubble' activator for 3 hours. The solution keeps in a dark place (not refrigerated) in sealed glass-topped bottles for up to 6 months. I don't like advertising - but here is the machine I use : http://www.thesilveredge.com/howto.shtml There are many others on the market - so feel free to search them for yourselves.
I used to be taught to go to the dentist every 6 months - and they did so much unnecessary work costing us a fortune. Each time I went they 'loosened' a crown, or disturbed a nerve, I began to realise that with effective brushing, colloidal silver treatments rarely needed to be used - so my dentists vists were curtailed until absolutely necessary. When I returned - they marvelled at my healthy gums and teeth! Take care of yourself, and don't unnecessarily stuff the dentists' pocket. Oh - check your insurance in case it becomes void if you don't go regularly. I am not in that circumstance. Massage gums and brush ;-)

This is the machine I use also. Have you read anything of silver pulling mercury from fillings? I have this vague memory of it and fear doing what you do orally. I now use MMS for any minor oral infections. It works very well. I would like to try swishing a little silver around in my mouth to possibly kill of some of these bad bugs.

And yes, Dear God, dentists have ruined my teeth. So many fillings, root canals, crowns. Had I known what I know now. At least my children won't be subject to that invasive, unnecessary BS.

Abhaya
13th December 2013, 23:26
Well after a failed attempt with my local dentists. He more or less thought I was crazy. And he in fact said that not only are root canals safe but all the propaganda about mercury fillings is crap to.... (Well that was the last time I saw him.) I have an appointment booked with a biological dentist in Maryland. For New Year's Eve! What a way to spend the holiday! Actually I'm pumped and couldn't think of a better way haha. The julian center is the best health establishment I have ever walked into. The dr. there told me every root canal tooth he has tested has been toxic. 100%. About to make my immune system happy when I take out one of its major toxic leeching adversaries. :)

Thanks again for all the advise back when I started this thread.

Will update after extraction

Deega
7th July 2015, 22:10
Hi, I wonder if Avalon Members concerned by Root Canal had the opportunity listening to Dr. Thomas Levy video. I have two Root Canal done over the years, in 2013, I had a Hearth Artery blockage needing ''Stents'' placement, frightening to say the least!


Dr. Thomas Levy discusses a topic from his recent book on root canals. Find out why he thinks the common procedure can be very dangerous and can actually lead to serious health problems down the road. He mentions some interesting studies and examples that might make you think before getting a root canal


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indigopete
7th July 2015, 22:30
I've got about 4 root canals in my mouth. Some of them over 20 years old. (Not to mention a boatload of amalgam).

I feel like a walking science experiment after watching that :facepalm:

bruno dante
7th July 2015, 22:43
Uh...you might wanna link your "c" with your "anal" in the thread title. It's slightly misleading:o

Deega
7th July 2015, 22:46
Yes Indigopete, I have similar feelings!

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Thanks Bruno Dante, done!, but I noticed that the modification didn't changed in the Title Tread, be back to it, I'll ask a Mod to correct that.

Hip Hipnotist
8th July 2015, 01:21
Had two root canals and five amalgam fillings.

Also had a massive heart attack, quad bypass surgery and probably shouldn't be here typing this now. But here I am.

I've also since had the root canal teeth removed and all the mercury fillings replaced.

Was that the cause of my heart attack? Beats me. But I can pretty much assure you ( especially myself ) it won't happen again.

East Sun
8th July 2015, 02:01
I can't believe that Dentists actually believe that amalgam/mercury fillings are ok to be put into peoples teeth. Mercury is incredibly toxic and therefore damages us by getting into our blood stream and into our brain.
Someone, if they can be called someone, does not have the health of humans in their best interest. In other words they are intentionally causing damage to us.
This is similar to vaccines and harmful drugs being forced on an unknowing public.
Beware is all I can say and spread the word to as many people as possible.

Baby Steps
8th July 2015, 10:33
In the following vid, Thomas E Levy states that you can have local Vitamin C deficiency, and that oral infections pour toxins towards the heart especially if you are chewing. Then the Heart Area becomes toxified, and inflammation follows.
My theory is that on top of this, you can have infection/oxidation/inflammation within the Arteries. So I do a periodic MMS clear out, but top up on Vitamin C
afterwards as MMS depletes it.

I did a thread about Vitamin C and Heart Disease here:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?81232-Clear-your-arteries-with--real--Vitamin-C&p=948753&viewfull=1#post948753

There are a huge number of excellent naturopathic oriented videos on you tube under iHealthTube.co!



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fg90W7KevCs

mgray
8th July 2015, 12:49
Pete Peterson in his video some years ago said tooth nerve endings connected to pressure points on hands in a third circulatory system.
It's funny how I keep harking back to that interview with Bill and Kerry.
Anyone who has not seen it should give it a watch.

Carmody
8th July 2015, 13:10
In the following vid, Thomas E Levy states that you can have local Vitamin C deficiency, and that oral infections pour toxins towards the heart especially if you are chewing. Then the Heart Area becomes toxified, and inflammation follows.
My theory is that on top of this, you can have infection/oxidation/inflammation within the Arteries. So I do a periodic MMS clear out, but top up on Vitamin C
afterwards as MMS depletes it.

I did a thread about Vitamin C and Heart Disease here:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?81232-Clear-your-arteries-with--real--Vitamin-C&p=948753&viewfull=1#post948753

There are a huge number of excellent naturopathic oriented videos on you tube under iHealthTube.co!



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fg90W7KevCs

Use a mms dilution in a 'waterpik', for deep below the gum-line and between the teeth cleaning.

This drops the toxic load in the mouth --dramatically.

http://dentalcarematters.com/wp-content/uploads/waterpik-ultra-water-flosser.jpg

It also delivers immediate cavity pain relief and can potentially save some given endangered teeth.

Pam
8th July 2015, 13:26
Pete Peterson in his video some years ago said tooth nerve endings connected to pressure points on hands in a third circulatory system.
It's funny how I keep harking back to that interview with Bill and Kerry.
Anyone who has not seen it should give it a watch.


Can you provide a link, mgray?

Carmody
8th July 2015, 13:35
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Lancet
16th July 2015, 07:36
Dr Hal Huggins was the primary researcher on root canals. He gives a brief history in video 1. In the second video, he makes the link between autoimmune diseases and heavy metals that were used in dental procedures. He also says its a tough fight against big brother. He has passed. He was also sued and barred from medical practice by the state, which confirms that he was right.

video 1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbBoqMy0kQA

video 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=New1PHLbfeA

http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/huggins.html

Love
JT

conk
21st July 2015, 18:20
I saw a wonderful holistic dentist in Franklin, TN. She removed all amalgams and two root canaled teeth. Both teeth with root canals were very infected. Another root canal tooth was saved by extensive ozone cleansing. Our teeth are so vitally important. They are electrical conductors, sending and conveying messages along energy pathways.

ThePythonicCow
3rd March 2019, 23:51
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I'm waking up an old thread here. Thanks to this new article by Erin Elizabeth, Netflix pulls controversial documentary that claims root canals cause cancer (https://www.healthnutnews.com/root-cause-documentary-removed-from-netflix-watch-it-here/), I came across a fairly new documentary, "The Root Cause", starring Aussie Ben Purser, in his own battle with the various health problems caused by a root canal.

Some of the names I've grown to trust, such as Jerry Tennant, Joseph Mercola, Thomas Levy and Candace Owens, speak frankly of the dangers of root canals to long term health.

Here's a version on Youtube:
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It's quite well done. I can understand that the American Dental Association would have wanted to suppress this documentary.

Bill Ryan
4th March 2019, 00:37
Excellent, thanks. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:


About three years ago, I had a severe toothache and was faced with having to have a root canal, so I read Dr. Weston Price's book, Nutrition and Physical Degeneration, first. After reading, I decided to postpone the root canal procedure, and started implementing some of his dietary findings, such as sourcing a supply of high vitamin butter, taking cod liver oil and eating organ meat, plus cutting out refined white flour and sugar, etc.

Yes. I had the same experience about 20 years ago, when my dentist — truly enlightened! — lent me HER OWN COPY of the book to read overnight so I could make my own informed decision about whether to have the root canal treatment or not. (I came back the next day and told her to pull the tooth.)

Here's the book — a REALLY valuable asset:


http://avalonlibrary.net/ebooks/Dr%20Weston%20Price%20-%20Nutrition%20and%20Physical%20Degeneration.pdf

Savannah
4th March 2019, 01:03
I read about this a few years ago. I had previously had all the mercury amalgam fillings removed a few years ago. At my expense became of course insurance will not pay for that. The problem with amalgam is not only do they position you but they expand and thus crack your teeth. That then results in the need for caps because there is not enough existing tooth to fill. My next problem was the caps cracked and one tooth developed nerve damage and thus a root canal would have been the only option. So a few months ago I had my fist tooth pulled rather have a root canal. My only option now is very expensive implant. Thank goodness it was my last molar and I think I’m just letting be.

The irony is I put myself through college as dental assistant. I always took very good care of my teeth thinking I was doing all the right things. This awakening to the horrors of my old profession and what it actually did to my teeth was just one of the many rude awakenings to what the world really is all about.

ThePythonicCow
4th March 2019, 01:07
So a few months ago I had my fist tooth pulled rather have a root canal. My only option now is very expensive implant. Thank goodness it was my last molar and I think I’m just letting be.
Hopefully whoever pulled the tooth also cleaned out the periodontal ligament, and a mm or two of bone, in order to get as clean a socket as practical.

happyuk
4th March 2019, 09:45
I had a black, sorry-looking tooth finally go kaput back in 2012 that was root-canalled for about 20 years.

It basically split down the middle and my dentist gave me a number of options:

1. Go for the "pirate" look after having it whipped out
2. A bridge
3. An implant

I opted for the implant option, which cost me the best part of three grand, but was money well spent in my still strong opinion.

I'm not saying this is suitable for everybody, and it was an awful lot of money to shell out for just one tooth, but unlike that wretched root canal, which I kind of learned to live with, I have had no soreness or tenderness and I still need to take care of it like I would a normal tooth in brushing, flossing etc.

And I agree with West A. Price's findings in his book, that once people abandon their good nutritious traditional diets in favour of convenient Western foods containing
far too much sugar the first thing to suffer are the teeth. Indeed I have read that some chose to take their own lives than live with the long term misery of tooth decay and chronic gum disease.

For some time I have applied Price's advice to my kids, who are boy-girl twins aged twelve. My policy has been to be stingy in allowing access to sweets and candies (I'm not saying they NEVER have sweets, just infrequently), give them high-strength cod liver oil especially in the winter months and a diet with plenty of milk, butter, cream, cheese, eggs, oily fish etc , against the "advice" of diet dictokrats. What has been gratifying is being able to walk away from the dental surgery with a "see you in 6 months" with no treatment needed.

koundinya
5th March 2019, 03:29
It's really an Amazing revelation. Thanks to you and Dr. Weston Price. I wish this could be known by anyone especially in my country India to help diseased people. So nice of you posting this information.

Agape
9th March 2019, 22:44
I can recommend tea tree oil:) Since I’ve been on “orbit”( long journey) around the globe for quite some time now, I had no time to visit dentists, my only dentist had no time and in some countries, they’re generally too expensive.
Most recently due to temperature changes and other less known factors I have experienced severe pain along the jaw and nerves. Speak of targeting :)
Thought I may pass out for couple of nights, weeks, popped as many legal painkillers as I never do trying to stop it.
Cleaning my teeth meticulously and sometimes drastically. It all seemed to make it only worse. One hidden tooth seems to have chipped off close to the root, whether there’s cavity or not, anything touching it would cause so much pain.

Finally something enlightened me and before I considered whether I’d be able to pull my tooth out , in emergency, I recalled my dentist would fit some healing agent to close that naked root. So my best though strongest idea was little cotton bud in tea tree oil. It worked miracles since. I cleaned and calmed all the rest too.
It may take couple of weeks yet before I’ll be to see real dentist :)

But I think I’m on training path already ...

ThePythonicCow
25th March 2019, 18:37
... a fairly new documentary, "The Root Cause", starring Aussie Ben Purser, in his own battle with the various health problems caused by a root canal.
...
Here's a version on Youtube:
r5psuRZuoZw
It's quite well done. I can understand that the American Dental Association would have wanted to suppress this documentary.

Well, the American Dental Association (ADA), and whatever the Australian equivalent is, got to it. The "Root Cause" documentary has been pulled from Youtube and Netflix.

For the record, here are some articles and videos documenting (some justifying, some objecting to) this pulling:

Netflix pulls controversial documentary that claims root canals cause cancer (The Guardian) (https://www.theguardian.com/media/2019/feb/27/netflix-root-cause-pulled-root-canals-cancer)
The Root Cause Documentary REMOVED From Netlix (Youtube video; Dr. Bob McCauley) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrlVaiNzQaI)
Documentary linking root canals to cancer drilled by dentists, yanked by Netflix (Philly Voice; John Kopp) (https://www.phillyvoice.com/dental-groups-blast-root-canal-documentary-pulled-netflix-junk-science-root-cause-film-cancer-heart-disease/)
Netflix quietly removes controversial Aussie-made ‘cancer’ documentary (news.com.au; Stephanie Bedo) (https://www.news.com.au/technology/home-entertainment/tv/netflix-quietly-removes-controversial-aussiemade-cancer-documentary/news-story/822fd0b5f40617576e5b4162a18e76cc)

I still see the documentary for sale on Amazon and Vimeo.

conk
26th March 2019, 13:12
After reading Dr. Price's great book, this tread, and other material I decided to have my two root canal teeth removed. The holistic dentist pulled the teeth and the connective ligaments, then flushed the socket with ozone. She made a blood plasma paste to paint the socket with and stitched me up. On the return checkup visit she told me the two teeth were badly infected and quite nasty looking. There were no symptoms at all. I don't want to consider what ailment may have developed had the teeth not come out.

It's very disturbing that the truth is being censored. The purveyors of poison are really cracking down. Facebook deleting anti-vaxx posts. The FDA quietly banning the use of vitamin C IVs. And on and on.

ThePythonicCow
26th March 2019, 20:00
The FDA quietly banning the use of vitamin C IVs.
There were several articles (mostly copies of each other) back in 2017 about this, such as this January 2017 article FDA quietly bans powerful life-saving intravenous Vitamin C (NaturalNews.com) (https://www.naturalnews.com/2017-02-01-fda-quietly-bans-powerful-life-saving-iv-bags-with-vitamin-c.html).

However I don't recall seeing any more about this since then.

Moreover one of the dentists I was considering recently for my dental issues proposed vitamin C by IV, as part of a treatment plan, so apparently at least that dentist thought the procedure was still available (here in North Texas, USA).

conk
27th March 2019, 13:45
The FDA quietly banning the use of vitamin C IVs.
There were several articles (mostly copies of each other) back in 2017 about this, such as this January 2017 article FDA quietly bans powerful life-saving intravenous Vitamin C (NaturalNews.com) (https://www.naturalnews.com/2017-02-01-fda-quietly-bans-powerful-life-saving-iv-bags-with-vitamin-c.html).

However I don't recall seeing any more about this since then.

Moreover one of the dentists I was considering recently for my dental issues proposed vitamin C by IV, as part of a treatment plan, so apparently at least that dentist thought the procedure was still available (here in North Texas, USA).

My source may have been a bit premature in declaring it has been banned. I'm glad you noticed that. I did go to the FDA site and found several letters they had sent to alternative practitioners. The letter demanded to know what studies they were relying on, why they were using vitamin C as a drug, and many more insipid questions. The focus is clear and the agenda known. Anything not pharma endorsed will be marginalized or worse.

Thanks Paul.

Bill Ryan
28th September 2024, 10:26
Bumping this important thread with a new article from Dr. Mercola. Many readers already know all about this, but nevertheless this may be yet another valuable reference.

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'Root Cause' — The Health Effects of the Root Canal

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STORY AT-A-GLANCE

The documentary “Root Cause” reveals how root canals may pose health risks by leaving dead tissue in your body, leading to chronic infections and systemic health issues that are often undetected by conventional dental imaging.



Experts argue that root canal teeth cannot be fully sterilized due to miles of microscopic tubules that harbor bacteria, which produce toxins and contribute to various health problems.



Research suggests correlations between root canals and chronic diseases like heart disease and cancer.



Alternatives to root canals include tooth extraction followed by bridges or zirconia implants, with a focus on proper cleaning and healing protocols supervised by a biological dentist.



Prevention through nutrition, oral hygiene and practices like hydrogen peroxide irrigation may help maintain oral health and reduce the need for invasive dental procedures like root canals.

https://media.mercola.com/ImageServer/Public/2024/September/PDF/root-canal-health-effects-pdf.pdf

https://media.mercola.com/ImageServer/Public/2024/September/PDF/root-canal-health-effects-pdf.pdf

NancyV
28th September 2024, 23:09
I never would have a root canal because my father told me that his father died shortly after having a root canal from "complications". He died in 1944 so I never met him as I was born in 1947. His family were fairly sure he died because of the root canal related infections.

RunningDeer
26th February 2025, 13:33
I was in pain and it quickly escalated. My dentist suggested a root canal because the x-ray showed an infection around three bottom teeth and one on top. I declined and opted for a tooth extraction. But that meant waiting three months for an appointment with a specialist and was added to a waiting list for a cancellation.

In the meantime, I added MMS and DMSO to my waterpik routine. The pain was gone in less than a week. I used 'Orajel for babies' when needed.

I explained to the extraction specialist that I didn’t want a tooth canal. She assured me it was the right decision and said more often than not a tooth will be pulled in the end. As it turned out, the tooth was cracked.

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BE CAREFUL: My CRAZY ROOT CANAL Experience (7 min)





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Dr. Dhand's Website (https://www.drsuneeldhand.com)
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This experience really made me think. Always speak with your medical professional to see what's right for you



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meat suit
26th February 2025, 14:03
I am maintaining a dead tooth thats useful for chewing and my dentist of course would like to do a root canal which I wont have, already got a couple from the old days.
Alternative is extraction and a bridge that would invole drilling and fixing into the ajesant teeth. No thanks, not in Britain anyway.. workmanship is too poor here..

But, I found that to my surprise Ivermectin really helped with abcess issues and lately I have this 300W red light infrared/near infrared lamp on it and that in minutes reduces swelling and pain ..

grapevine
26th February 2025, 14:46
meatsuit, if you have an abscess then your tooth isn't dead, just one/more of the roots. And it's likely to return and/or spread. You're between a rock and a hard place (been there, done that and had a root filling/crown. Seems to have been OK all these years, but who really knows?)

There are alternative treatments using ozone or laser, which are likely to be expensive and pioneering, and the outcome is as yet unknown. You could request your dentist to refer you to a dental hospital, which will have all the latest dental technology and you may be accepted as a guinea pig :). The fasting/autophagy effect is also unknown, although I expect you're not eating much at the moment.

Zinc and Clove Oil made into a paste will help fill any holes temporarily and is soothing.

meat suit
26th February 2025, 19:07
Thank you,
Actually it is pretty minor, rarely hurts and rarely flares up.

I use propolis alcohol extract too sometimes.

I wil get it sorted one day, people are talking about flying out to India or Mexico to have dental work done much cheaper and better than in the UK.
I had most of my many dental works done in Germany 30 years ago and it top notch. My UK dentist is alway in awe looking at it.

What are the dentist like in Equador Bill?

Bill Ryan
26th February 2025, 19:29
What are the dentists like in Ecuador Bill?Excellent, friendly, and very high quality. Most of them speak good English, many having been trained in the US.

Here's a table I found in this Jan 2024 article: (the Ecuador costs cited are all accurate)


Getting your Dental Care Done in Ecuador (https://cuencahighlife.com/getting-your-dental-care-done-in-ecuador/)

https://avalonlibrary.net/Bill/Dental_costs_ in_Ecuador.jpg

meat suit
26th February 2025, 20:08
Thanks Bill,

Wow extraction $30-$50.. its £360 at my NHS dentists here...

Its really worth adding it all up and turning it into a holiday..

RunningDeer
26th February 2025, 22:39
Excellent, friendly, and very high quality. Most of them speak good English, many having been trained in the US.

Here's a table I found in this Jan 2024 article: (the Ecuador costs cited are all accurate)


Getting your Dental Care Done in Ecuador (https://cuencahighlife.com/getting-your-dental-care-done-in-ecuador/)


https://avalonlibrary.net/Bill/Dental_costs_ in_Ecuador.jpg



Thanks Bill,

Wow extraction $30-$50.. its £360 at my NHS dentists here...

Its really worth adding it all up and turning it into a holiday..




The total for my extraction was $695 (£548):

$200 (£160) for the dental consult + x-rays
$495 (£390) for the extraction specialist

The price for my crown + x-rays in 2024 was $1,500 (£1183).

Johnnycomelately
27th February 2025, 00:30
I am maintaining a dead tooth thats useful for chewing and my dentist of course would like to do a root canal which I wont have, already got a couple from the old days.
Alternative is extraction and a bridge that would invole drilling and fixing into the ajesant teeth. No thanks, not in Britain anyway.. workmanship is too poor here..

But, I found that to my surprise Ivermectin really helped with abcess issues and lately I have this 300W red light infrared/near infrared lamp on it and that in minutes reduces swelling and pain ..

Am moved by your plight. Hurting up there can wipe you out.

Have not read the thread above here, Clove oil must have been mentioned. Iirc, that was on the ingredients of a tube given me by a coincident backpacker in India when a tooth was painfully dying. I had seen Marathon Man, and was strugglingly pleased to affirm it works.

I figured the cause was Limca, a very acidic lime pop that I was enjoying around then. When I got back to Canada, had it yanked out, haven’t missed it much since.

Funny thing, one or maybe the most recent work I had was removing one that I had babied for a while but had finally come apart. They told me and showed me the x-ray of a root canal, but I’ve been only NO to that since learning of it.

I try to not bother speculating anymore, about what I said when that was done, but for sure it made me wary.