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<8>
22nd June 2012, 12:30
Hello..

I found this site interesting so I decided to share..


I am an observer and a reporter. This is not a website to put forward a point of view or to dismantle other investigator’s methods of probing into the unknown, whether they use imagination, hypnosis, clairvoyance, Lucid Dreaming, science, mathematics or projection or any combination of these. We are still at the very the beginning of unlocking our final frontier, our true nature and the origin of our universe, of which we still know very little. It would be wrong to dismiss any method until they have proven themselves to be insufficient tools for uncovering the truth.


It is natural for people having arrived at a conviction or belief to defend it and even belittle others who do not share their conviction. This is not in the spirit of this website. It is about finding consensus and arriving at truth, even if it leads through uncharted territories.


I find religious and philosophical beliefs a distraction. Instead I favor awareness of the present and instead of belief I favor intuitive awareness of potentiality.


There are as many beliefs, religions and ideologies as there are people, which are often concentrated into consensus beliefs which form the major religions and ideologies. History has shown that mankind doesn’t fare too well when belief systems are pitched against each other. Naturally, I am in no position to judge people’s beliefs, which seem to be part of our psychological program, but personally I regard belief as a cloud obscuring the sun of reality.


Instead of belief I favour a dynamic awareness of reality. Instead of prayer I favor meditation in which I ask consciousness to reveal its inner mystery.


Occasionally when contemplating “being” (an uninterpreted awareness of the present) I find stillness, yet I am hesitant to give it a name or burden it with meaning. I know nothing about God though on rare occasions I experience consciousness at its most quintessential - infinite, unfathomable, but always as a very natural and intimate state at the root of my being.


Sometimes, during meditation, I slip out of my body into in an alternative reality whilst retaining full waking awareness. It is these states of awareness which are at the root of this website and subject to my on-going investigations.


It is my endeavour to demystify death and help remove our fear. Until recently death belonged to the realm of religion and superstition. We are now waking up to explore it like any other natural phenomena which can be mapped out via Out-of-Body experiences. More and more people, including scientists, are using techniques to achieve this. In due course more fail-safe methods of exploration will be developed and interaction with the next dimension will be science’s new frontier. New cognitive methods and ways of thinking will be developed to solve our problems. We will learn to think from the inside of our object of inquiry rather than look at it from the outside.


The longest Out-of-Body experience sustained in full waking consciousness that I have experienced was in 1976, and lasted from midnight to the early hours of the morning. The information gleaned during this time was considerable. Many of these observations were later confirmed during my subsequent Out-of-Body experiences.


As it is my goal to make reality or truth the foundation of my life, I have tried to filter out the reality of the experience of alternate dimensions from fantasy ‘overlays’, which are subjective projections, that distort the actual reality. Common sense and reason are prerequisites in achieving this. Separating reality from imagination is a tremendous challenge for out-of-body explorers and lucid dreamers, as it is almost impossible to do in dimensions where thoughts can become tangible objects. I will explore this in more depth under another heading.


It appears from my observations that the physical universe has multidimensional counterparts, the same as our physical body has multidimensional counterparts which correspond with the different dimensions. The multidimensional counterparts of our physical body can best be described as states of consciousness.


I found during meditation that I could shift my awareness through different dimensional bodies and when I stepped out of my physical body using the dimensional body I was in a corresponding dimension which had the same apparent objective reality as this physical universe.


The quality of awareness increases the higher the aspect of the dimensional body. I can
best describe it as being an increased sense of “coming home” or “being home”, a tangible awareness of increased security and union with the core element of my being. This awareness was enhanced by an attitude of childlike surrender to a power which offered absolute nurturing security and a sense of connectedness with other individual units of consciousness. At the same time there is an increased sense of having woken up from a kind of dream which constitutes my normal physical state.


However, on the rare occasions, when I entered a state of consciousness which can only be described as singularity (or a state of oneness with everything around me). The experience took on an almost alarming dimension in as much as any feelings of personal identity as a human being was totally stripped away and replaced by intense clarity and “neutrality” (Multidimensional Man - The Final Frontiers). I believe such an experience can have a powerful transforming effect on cognitive habits

Diagram of consciousness and corresponding dimensions

http://www.multidimensionalman.com/Multidimensional-Man/Levels_of_consciousness_and_OBEs_files/Dimensions.jpg


Reports and Observations from Out-of-Body Explorations. A presentation over Skype to the Institute of Neuroscience and Consciousness Studies

http://vimeo.com/35800793

Sorce:http://www.google.se/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=multidimensional%20man&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CEkQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.multidimensionalman.com%2F&ei=smTkT9jqAuei4gTA8NHCCA&usg=AFQjCNGkZSDG6pKnIM1KR1kLbisXWh169Q

ROMANWKT
22nd June 2012, 14:02
Hi 8

This really is the next step for most of us here, but we seem to be failing to get the point, its better to talk about it than doing it, still caught in the reality game.

thank a lot for that, good stuff

regards to you 8 as always
roman

Ba-ba-Ra
22nd June 2012, 18:14
Great thread - very important information.

Letting go of beliefs can be very difficult for some - who seem to hang on to them as a drowing man hangs onto a log in the ocean. I suspect it has do with deep fears of the unknown. Yes, the fear of death is a big one - perhaps the basis for all fears.

lookbeyond
23rd June 2012, 00:16
Hello <8>, wonderful information and thankyou for sharing. I pray, i have all of my life. I have had a visual response to a particular prayer which was immediate and prolonged enough for me to ascertain it was really "there". Interestingly, the nature of the "vision" was not of " traditional christian" origin and yet i knew its origin was Divine. I must point out that my prayer was a desperate plea from the heart and belonged in the reahlms of feelings, not words.
I am interested in exploring with meditation and thus am very interested in what you will share.
Kind Reguards
lookbeyond

Ba-ba-Ra
23rd June 2012, 21:20
Bumping thread - as I feel it's an important one.:wizard:

another bob
23rd June 2012, 23:03
Greetings!

I have mentioned recently in another thread that I struck up a fast friendship with an amazing fellow who has developed the ability to leave his body on command and venture through the galaxies and dimensions, and what's most inspiring and rare is his ability to meet up directly with his Higer Self and receive downloads.

I want to also state that I have been a student of spirit for over half a century, and so have seen all sorts of claims and representations, most of which I determined were not what they appeared, but typically misunderstandings or half-baked experiences that were then exagerated for egoic effect. I have also had my own fair share of experience, and so am not easily bowled over in the way I have been by my friend. Moreover, he has the unmistakable signs of authenticity -- a harmonious combination of humilty, humor, and profound insight. His reports not only blow my mind with the places he's been and things he's seen and learned, but also leave me with a huge smile!

Now, I asked him if he didn't mind my sharing an excerpt from one of his letters, and he agreed, though he doubted his reports would be credible. I felt that there are plenty of open-minded folks here, including some who have indeed had similar experience and can easily relate. Amomng them, our own NancyV and Sebastion come immediately to mind.

That being said, here's a bit of a letter I received from him today:


As for being "Prolific" in my [astral] travels, I do nothing that anyone else can't do also. Once one communes with their Higher Self, anything is possible. I told him that I felt a little guilty for taking up so much of His time, and He said: "Why?" I said "Well, dosen't Source get upset over me comming here so often and taking up your time?"

He just looked up ,in exasperation and said:"I am Source!" Then He went on to say" I am only here to serve you and no-one else. YOU just don't understand Me. Let me give it to you in that analogy that you have been working on. You have been thinking that your HS, Me, is like being connected to Source by a long chain of electrical outlets streaming out from Him to infinity, and you come up here and plug into the one with your name on. Right? Well let Me give it to you this way."

And there came across the sky a row of electrical outlets, that were a thousand feet high, and went streaming off into infinity, just like I had imagined, but now instead of a single row, the was an entire wall of them.

He told me to go plug into it. I walked over and in looking for my plug, I found that they were all blanked off, except one. He said plug into it. And instantly I had an ellectrical cord dangling from my forhead, with a plug on the end of it, I chuckled and pluged it in. Instantly, the wall dissapeared, and there my HS stood with my plug stuck in His forhead.

And He said"See?" "Each plug for a differrent be-ing. To infinity." "I only exist to help YOU. YOU just need to make the Effort to get here, which you have done, and now I am here only to serve YOU. Although you consider infinity quite well, you really do not have a clue, as to how far I am extended. And right this second I know what the tinyest living thing on the bottom of your ocean is doing, to the farthest reaches of this and every universe across all of my creation. And yet, This Individual aspect of Me has nothing to do but tend to your every thought. I am you and you are me, and we are one, use me to your hearts content."

Had to chew on that one awhile... Then finally I asked: "If You are Me, and I am You, how come when I go back to my body, I still think like I allways did, and I still suffer pain an doubt, and wonder why I do the things I do and don't seem to be anything like you?"
He chuckled, and said: "You are like me more than you realize." and chuckled again. Hate when He does that. :-)

He said:" Your physical consciousness, is your indiviuality, and sets my experience through you, apart from all of the rest of creation." hmm. So no matter what I do, I can't get away from you? "Nope". You're always sittin on my shoulder watchin me? "YEP!"

Your HS, my brother, is sitting on your shoulder right now, watchin you, also. We cannot get away from them.


:yo:

Eram
24th June 2012, 04:06
That being said, here's a bit of a letter I received from him today:.......................


I can't wait to read more of his experiences.
His stories almost want me to try and learn this astral travel thing.

edit to add:


Now, I asked him if he didn't mind my sharing an excerpt from one of his letters, and he agreed, though he doubted his reports would be credible

no need to doubt!!!

another bob
24th June 2012, 14:57
I can't wait to read more of his experiences.
His stories almost want me to try and learn this astral travel thing.

OK, my Friend said I could share this one, it's one of my favorites so far:

Note: My Friend calls his Higher Self "George" (as in "By George!")

I been wantin to tell ya bout these little guys that I found through my HS. I went to Him and said: "surprise" me. Boy did I ever get one.

We landed on this planet, half way across the universe, and there were thousands of these little round ball looking things that were scrambleing to get away from us, and George just quietly said : "Stop", and they did.

From off to one side of the bunch, one came slowly rolling towards us and stoped about 20 feet away. two eyes opened, a mouth opened, and it screamed GEORGE!!! And came rolling over and bumped into Him and started bouncin up and down.

And then All of them came running, er/rolling. hee hee. They were quite glad to see Him. He then held out His hand toward me, and told them; "This... is my human form"! hmm. I never quite looked at it that way.?! hmm.

The nearest that I can come up with in our language is that they are called Derfs. They're so cute, and highly intelligent also I might add, and on a Spiritual level, more than a Material level. You two would love them. They are round, about two feet in diameter, without arms or legs. But... they have a bunch of points sticking out all over around them, that look like small cones, that start at about 2-3 inches in diameter, and go down to a rounded tip of about half an ich, and they can extend any or all, or one or two as needed to provide movement in any direction.

They're quite amazing to watch the way they move. I can't run near as fast as they can roll. It looks to me like they can easlily do 30 to 40 MPH. Yah!! that's what I thought too. My first impression was WOW. They do it by just extnding two "legs" out the back, to get them started, and then just keep it up in rappid fire succession, and extend them out of the side, when they want to turn, which they can do at full speed. And their only purpose, seems to be just to roll around and have fun.

Seems also that by order of Source, that this planet is absolutlly off limits to anyone, without their Higher self along. George tells me that Source has distroyed huge starships that were headed there with "Ill" intentions. hmm. He did say also that those ships were warned repeatedly on their approach and would not turn away, and destruction was allways the last resort, to protect the Derfs. hmm. I have also learned, that "WE" have had Devine intervention 3 times in the past 15 years, to keep our planet from harm from both our gbmnts and et's. hmm.

I asked the derfs what they do, and they seemed surprised, and said: "Do?" I said " yes, do you have work, (George was chuckling) or something that you do, do you build homes to live in or anything like that. And they said; "No, we just "play". And off they went, with the greatest show of play that you could immagine. They were runnin, rollin, bumpin into one another, for about 5 minutes, and then returned, to say; "See?"

That's it. That's all they do. Play. What else is there? Right? I told George, "I wanna move here!" He chuckled and said:"Thought you would like them. Fit your mentality perfectly, don't they."


:yo:

<8>
24th June 2012, 17:33
That was just amazing Another Bob..


You have a fantastic friend with experiences that people would only dream about..:o
Please, feel free to post it all, I just can't get enough...

I actually started to listen to some guy that would help me leave my physical body to day, as I were going deeper into a relaxed state, things just keep interrupting me.
I have abandoned the quest for now, and will give it a try tonight.

So far I have just experienced what some refer as lucid dreams, being awake in a dream is great for sure.
But to float out of your physical body and just have the experience of observing it, is something that I like to experience.
I am positive and I have all the time in this world, and when that time is up I leave either way..:p