Tony
29th June 2012, 09:29
Being a spiritual student.
Well, one would need certain qualities, being human is one. Then we have to find some sort of criteria, some values needed. A student is someone who wishes to understand, or stand under some sort of method. Of course we could say being human was enough, but many on this planet are here to only serve themselves, or rely on animal instincts.
Finding out what being spiritual is, is knowing that we are spiritual in being! That is beyond this body and mindset. So, in investigating this topic we begin to realise that all humans are of spirit.
So, what tools are available that everyone might agree on, which could be applied to any path?
Well, we would have to be generous, in knowing that all others were not just their body or set-minds. We would have to have patience with ourselves and others, disciplined to not merely react and be able to persevere in our efforts, and to do that we would need concentration.
Above all we would need self knowledge, beyond this body and mindset. How we do this is up to the individual, but we can get help from like minded people.
Many on these forums talk at cross (very cross) purposes because they have different mind sets. They get cross because they think that others are saying, we should all be the same. This is not possible.
So, we are generally talking about different methods, what suits one may not suit another. It's that simple. It may come as a surprise, that at the end of our findings we may find the same 'non thing', but call it something different.
The funny thing is this generosity, patience, discipline, concentration and self knowledge would be the very same qualities as a teacher...funny that!
A student goes through levels of understanding, it's not just one class. So, some students will know more or less. Now the problem could arise of pride. That's why we need to remind ourselves of, generosity, patience, discipline, concentration to know where 'we' are!
We all learn and teach, learn and teach, it's quite natural. When we learn something, we know, we know it's right, if it's right. We are only re-cognising something we know, but did not recognised that we knew it, until that moment!
The question is, what is constantly getting in the way of us knowing? It's us!
Of course you may see this differently,
Tony
Well, one would need certain qualities, being human is one. Then we have to find some sort of criteria, some values needed. A student is someone who wishes to understand, or stand under some sort of method. Of course we could say being human was enough, but many on this planet are here to only serve themselves, or rely on animal instincts.
Finding out what being spiritual is, is knowing that we are spiritual in being! That is beyond this body and mindset. So, in investigating this topic we begin to realise that all humans are of spirit.
So, what tools are available that everyone might agree on, which could be applied to any path?
Well, we would have to be generous, in knowing that all others were not just their body or set-minds. We would have to have patience with ourselves and others, disciplined to not merely react and be able to persevere in our efforts, and to do that we would need concentration.
Above all we would need self knowledge, beyond this body and mindset. How we do this is up to the individual, but we can get help from like minded people.
Many on these forums talk at cross (very cross) purposes because they have different mind sets. They get cross because they think that others are saying, we should all be the same. This is not possible.
So, we are generally talking about different methods, what suits one may not suit another. It's that simple. It may come as a surprise, that at the end of our findings we may find the same 'non thing', but call it something different.
The funny thing is this generosity, patience, discipline, concentration and self knowledge would be the very same qualities as a teacher...funny that!
A student goes through levels of understanding, it's not just one class. So, some students will know more or less. Now the problem could arise of pride. That's why we need to remind ourselves of, generosity, patience, discipline, concentration to know where 'we' are!
We all learn and teach, learn and teach, it's quite natural. When we learn something, we know, we know it's right, if it's right. We are only re-cognising something we know, but did not recognised that we knew it, until that moment!
The question is, what is constantly getting in the way of us knowing? It's us!
Of course you may see this differently,
Tony