CAFR - the biggest deception in the world!

[Unified Serenity]

I've been waiting for this to be available. The governments have been lying to us for decades with the help of the major media. The fact is last year government made 14 trillion by return on investments whereas the American people only took home 5 trillion after taxes. You must watch this video. Walter Burien does a phenomenal job explaining how the various state and federal governments own it all:

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[we-R-one]

Yep, the CAFR funds are where it's at.....and they're hoping you don't figure it out! The states, oops, I mean the STATES aren't going bankrupt, not even close, and the CAFR funds prove it! And yes, that means California too.....I mean CALIFORNIA. Check this out:

http://www.cafrman.com/index.html

[Kindred]

If we wanted a Truly Advanced civilization, we would realize that Money is NOT NEEDED...

It is simply a means by which to Separate/Divide the People - the Haves, and Have-Nots

THIS is WHY Jesus threw the money changers from the temple.

THROW OUT THE MONEY CHANGERS, and DO AWAY WITH MONEY

ONLY Then, will you have a truly egalitarian society.

In Unity, Peace and Love

[spiritguide]

This also includes cities,counties and universities. Deciet takes many forms.

[Cidersomerset]

Thanks U/S very enlightening ....He calls them Government , atorneys and players !! We would call the functionaries of the TPTB...

There is probably a mixure of the two. The main message is the public is being 'screwed' by the same old banking firms and families.
This case the United States but the same is going on all around the world,,,The wealth being generated by everyone is ending up
in the hands of the few 'Elites' who ever they are !!

This we knew as we already know the top 5% or so own more wealth than the rest ! Its obvious that fraud and exploitation
of markets and tax has been going on for centuries . Its like all good conspiricies 'Hidden in plain site '....Many smell the rat !!
But have been unable to expose them, because the Corporates , Elites who still end up as Presidents and prime ministers
or their puppets do as we have seen with virtualy all bar one US President being part of the old royal elite bloodlines.
This is the same in the most powerfull countries thus holding and embessling funds from the people in plain site as they cover their
tracks in beaurocracy and the media is censored by their corporate owners !!

[Unified Serenity]

If we wanted a Truly Advanced civilization, we would realize that Money is NOT NEEDED...

It is simply a means by which to Separate/Divide the People - the Haves, and Have-Nots

THIS is WHY Jesus threw the money changers from the temple.

THROW OUT THE MONEY CHANGERS, and DO AWAY WITH MONEY

ONLY Then, will you have a truly egalitarian society.

In Unity, Peace and Love

I understand your point, but Yeshua threw the money changers out because they were using a false system. They were only allowed to buy sacrificial doves and other animals with temple coin, and to get temple coin you had to convert real money to it. The money changers were robbing the people who were commanded to keep the law of God and yet were being abused doing it. Yeshua reacted to anyone abusing God's word and intent. The dove was the sacrifice a poor person gave because lambs were so expensive. No one should be barred from serving God because of lack of money.

In reality, money is very simple in that it makes trade easier. Money is not the root of all evil, but the love of money. Keep even scales and fair play in the mix and the world is a much happier place. Let the thieves into the vault and you have imbalance.

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This also includes cities,counties and universities. Deciet takes many forms.

Pretty much any public employer is involved.

[Kindred]

It is simply a means by which to Separate/Divide the People - the Haves, and Have-Nots


In reality, money is very simple in that it makes trade easier. Money is not the root of all evil, but the love of money. Keep even scales and fair play in the mix and the world is a much happier place. Let the thieves into the vault and you have imbalance.


Then we haven't learned our lesson. I will not participate in any system where the continued use of 'money' is the basis for continuing one's Life.

[Unified Serenity]

It is simply a means by which to Separate/Divide the People - the Haves, and Have-Nots


In reality, money is very simple in that it makes trade easier. Money is not the root of all evil, but the love of money. Keep even scales and fair play in the mix and the world is a much happier place. Let the thieves into the vault and you have imbalance.


Then we haven't learned our lesson. I will not participate in any system where the continued use of 'money' is the basis for continuing one's Life.

So, are you going to kill yourself today? I mean that question as the natural one based on you saying you will not participate in any system that uses money. You are in the system called earth alive in 3d and we use money.


How do you have internet access? How do you eat, how do you have clothes? Are you living by the grace of people taking pity on you and giving you everything you need? Do you use a pure barter system? Again, how do you pay for phone, internet, gasoline, etc.? You live on planet earth, money is used here in one form or another. If you are living off the government you are taking advantage of other people's money, and it will run out.

[Kindred]

U-S - you're missing the point of my argument completely... you are obviously quite entrenched in this false paradigm, and cannot think of living without 'money'... which suggests that you are 'doing well' by it. It's hard to conceive of living 'without', particularly if one is comfortable with it.

Yet, humans have lived for Millions of years without this form of Control... and the most advanced societies this planet has known did without it also. As long as one chooses to enslave oneself, then you will continue to be 'under Their control'...

Oh, and I can do without 'internet', gas and the like... and have been seriously considering chucking this whole 'paradigm' as it obviously does Not lead to enlightenment.

In Unity, Peace and Love

[turiya]

Carl Herman Reports: Secret Govt Slush Funds Right Under Our Noses

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEnLy-HNBLU&list=UUvsye7V9psc-APX6wV1twLg&index=1&feature=plcp
Carl Herman on Twitter: https://twitter.com/#!/carl_herman
Other good info source: http://www.washingtonsblog.com/


This also includes cities,counties and universities. Deciet takes many forms.
Don't forget about each of the school districts.

[Unified Serenity]

U-S - you're missing the point of my argument completely... you are obviously quite entrenched in this false paradigm, and cannot think of living without 'money'... which suggests that you are 'doing well' by it. It's hard to conceive of living 'without', particularly if one is comfortable with it.

Yet, humans have lived for Millions of years without this form of Control... and the most advanced societies this planet has known did without it also. As long as one chooses to enslave oneself, then you will continue to be 'under Their control'...

Oh, and I can do without 'internet', gas and the like... and have been seriously considering chucking this whole 'paradigm' as it obviously does Not lead to enlightenment.

In Unity, Peace and Love

Kindred, we lived like beasts, we barely survived. When as a civilized people did we live without some form of credits and debits? When did we live with equality? You never answered my questions. You sound like you want to check out of modern society. I have thought of it myself, but it's not easy to live in the world and have what you need without buying something or trading which comes from your creations and what other's think of them. My lifestyle is mine, and some would like it and some would not. I have lived on both ends of the spectrum. I have chosen a simple life and have what I desire. If I want something more, I ask for it in spirit and it always comes available. I literally asked for a pool and the next day one came available. I wanted it for my children and doing some aquacise. I had to work for it, but you know what? had someone not bought it in the first place with their money, and had someone not paid people to dig up the natural resources to melt the metal, make the vinyl, and pay people to put it together, ship it, display it and sell it, I wouldn't have had it. I have not yet mastered the as above so below creation out of thin air yet, but I do keep trying.

In the mean time, I ask and I receive. I asked with a definite image in mind, and it's a top of the line pool worth at least $6000.00. The guy didn't want it anymore and I did, and he gave it all to me just to move it out of his yard! I traded my labor for his toy. That is a credit and debit that cancelled out. What if I want or need something and I don't have enough credits? That's how wars started. Group A had something Group B wanted. The bigger and more violent took by force, and little by little expanded power and control. Learned to manipulate the people until we have the system we have today. What we have is a spiritual illness called pride, greed, and hard hearts.

I am not missing your point, I don't think you are realistic. I am not caught in some false paradigm, would you stop insinuating that those who don't think like you are living a false way? It's insulting and yet you seem to want to emanate a spirit of peace. It's very confusing for me for you to play both sides. I can argue tit for tat with you or we can have a respectful conversation, but you telling me I am entrenched in a false paradigm is an insult. I have no idea how you can think like you do, and you have not told me how you do live in this world without money. Are you going against your heart and spirit and using money because it is reality and thus you are unhappy? I am really confused by what you do not say and would appreciate some answers.

So, I will ask it again, and see if you can answer:

How do you have internet access?
How do you eat?
how do you have clothes?
Are you living by the grace of people taking pity on you and giving you everything you need?
Do you use a pure barter system?
Again, how do you pay for phone, internet, gasoline, etc.?

You live on planet earth, money is used here in one form or another. If you are living off the government you are taking advantage of other people's money, and it will run out.

I put up a post on my blog for moments where grounding and centering is needed. I share the link here, and think I will listen to some of these songs:

Respite (http://unifiedserenity.wordpress.com/2012/07/02/respite-warriors-need-to-rest/)

[gripreaper]

How do you have internet access?
How do you eat?
how do you have clothes?
Are you living by the grace of people taking pity on you and giving you everything you need?
Do you use a pure barter system?
Again, how do you pay for phone, internet, gasoline, etc.?

You live on planet earth, money is used here in one form or another. If you are living off the government you are taking advantage of other people's money, and it will run out.

I'm very interested in this answer, as I have been voraciously working on extricating myself from the system for years, and I find it virtually impossible. If ANYONE has figured out how to do it, I'm all ears.

[we-R-one]

In time, through consciousness, some will begin to figure out how to manifest money, it's all ready happening now though most don't realize this is even possible as it does not fit into their conditioned reality. It's all about transmuting energy. So instead of viewing money as the "evil", it will be seen as a tool for those interested in developing their own powers of manifestation. The future is energy, and when you learn to harness source field, manifestation will be a strong possibility with money as a key component for exercising one's skill set outside the preconceived concepts of the 3rd dimensional matrix.

[Hawkwind]

Well, the plan he proposes certainly sounds like a good idea. I somehow doubt that the people who currently hold positions of power and are benefiting from the existing system will see it as a win-win situation though. Any relative gain in power held by the populace, is consequently a relative loss of privilege and power for the current ruling class. In fact, if the general populace were to suddenly awaken to how much they’ve been oppressed and exploited by the elites, the scene would probably play out something along the lines of the Reign of Terror which followed the French Revolution. Not something the elites are likely to go along with willingly.

[Hawkwind]

Oh, and I can do without 'internet', gas and the like... and have been seriously considering chucking this whole 'paradigm' as it obviously does Not lead to enlightenment.


Good luck with that. Can I have your computer when you go? :p

[conk]

It is simply a means by which to Separate/Divide the People - the Haves, and Have-Nots


In reality, money is very simple in that it makes trade easier. Money is not the root of all evil, but the love of money. Keep even scales and fair play in the mix and the world is a much happier place. Let the thieves into the vault and you have imbalance.


Then we haven't learned our lesson. I will not participate in any system where the continued use of 'money' is the basis for continuing one's Life.So, you will load your pig onto the wagon and carry it to market, where you may trade it for some of my wheat and corn? Wouldn't it be much easier to carry "money" to the market and "buy" the grains? Then go and buy your own pig? That way you only have to carry the pig once. They are big, dirty critters who will eat your wagon upholstery. :)

[goinghome2012]

How do you have internet access?
How do you eat?
how do you have clothes?
Are you living by the grace of people taking pity on you and giving you everything you need?
Do you use a pure barter system?
Again, how do you pay for phone, internet, gasoline, etc.?

You live on planet earth, money is used here in one form or another. If you are living off the government you are taking advantage of other people's money, and it will run out.

I'm very interested in this answer, as I have been voraciously working on extricating myself from the system for years, and I find it virtually impossible. If ANYONE has figured out how to do it, I'm all ears.

you obviously implement free energy Tesla technology and do away with fossil fuel dependance

tax 50% for all the rich and big corporations and redistribute wealth to poor for self sufficiency, housing and land,

incentives to be self reliant and grow own food

reduce wages for useless labour in government, police, health and insurance

cap the wage for everyone $20 per hour all professions, we are all one, we are all equal resulting in a more equalized socialist system

implement and construct healing temples and circles to transform fear consciousness and replace with divine love and light consciousness

peace and love

[turiya]

In what can only be called a recently government produced propaganda video, California Governor Jerry Brown is addressing and purposefully lying to the people of California, where he nicely threatens to cut school funding by multiple billions if the people of the State do not vote in favor of his new budget plan:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPc85z9uhJQ
“Gov. Jerry Brown’s 2012-13 budget would slash $5.2 billion in public school funding if voters reject the tax increases he is trying to put on the November ballot…”
(Source): http://www.scpr.org/news/2012/01/05/30670/gov-jerry-browns-budget-be-released-early-after-it/

So… is California in such a financial deficit, as the Governor and his proposed and revised budget plan so matter-of-factly states?
This is the question that we will be answering today. But in order to answer this question, we must go to the true source of financial auditing for government, the Comprehensive Annual Financial Report (CAFR). For more on this, go to the following link: www.scpr.org/news/2012/01/05/30670/gov-jerry-browns-budget-be-released-early-after-it/

THE GREAT PENSION FUND HOAX - Corporation Nation 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhkWueEjewM&feature=player_embedded#!

California Government Hides Billions From Taxpayers: http://realitybloger.wordpress.com/2012/05/25/california-government-hides-billions-from-taxpayers/

-*-

[Mike Gorman]

If we wanted a Truly Advanced civilization, we would realize that Money is NOT NEEDED...

It is simply a means by which to Separate/Divide the People - the Haves, and Have-Nots

THIS is WHY Jesus threw the money changers from the temple.

THROW OUT THE MONEY CHANGERS, and DO AWAY WITH MONEY

ONLY Then, will you have a truly egalitarian society.

In Unity, Peace and Love

Whenever this issue arises I am often amazed at how most people react..."Yes dear, it would be nice without money-but how would we live?...And they usually quote some hard-bitten cliche' about 'practicality'.
This really is THE point; until we all awaken to the simple fact that Money is an abstraction-and not real-that the actual wealth humanity possesses is within our creative energy, and the resources of the Earth, we will continue to be enslaved. The concept of a means of exchange is really at the heart of our ignorance and the slavery of the people. 'Common Sense' is the warning sign that the thought behind it has never been questioned.
What will the accountants all do when we finally get the picture?

[778 neighbour of some guy]

Thanx US

This is global,

deserves to be STICKY.

[Unified Serenity]

How do you have internet access?
How do you eat?
how do you have clothes?
Are you living by the grace of people taking pity on you and giving you everything you need?
Do you use a pure barter system?
Again, how do you pay for phone, internet, gasoline, etc.?

You live on planet earth, money is used here in one form or another. If you are living off the government you are taking advantage of other people's money, and it will run out.

I'm very interested in this answer, as I have been voraciously working on extricating myself from the system for years, and I find it virtually impossible. If ANYONE has figured out how to do it, I'm all ears.

you obviously implement free energy Tesla technology and do away with fossil fuel dependance

tax 50% for all the rich and big corporations and redistribute wealth to poor for self sufficiency, housing and land,

incentives to be self reliant and grow own food

reduce wages for useless labour in government, police, health and insurance

cap the wage for everyone $20 per hour all professions, we are all one, we are all equal resulting in a more equalized socialist system

implement and construct healing temples and circles to transform fear consciousness and replace with divine love and light consciousness

peace and love

Nice idea. My profession is as a beer tester. I get to taste beer all day. Who is going to volunteer to be a plumber, ditch digger, diaper changer? I mean we all make $20.00 and hour. Do you really think you are being practical?

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Thanx US

This is global,

deserves to be STICKY.

I agree. post it on every message board, twitter, facebook, etc. To make it a sticky which I agree would be great as new members would see this and realize there are sane solutions offered to our global crisis, maybe petition the mods to make it sticky? Good idea though, thanks.

[goinghome2012]

How do you have internet access?
How do you eat?
how do you have clothes?
Are you living by the grace of people taking pity on you and giving you everything you need?
Do you use a pure barter system?
Again, how do you pay for phone, internet, gasoline, etc.?

You live on planet earth, money is used here in one form or another. If you are living off the government you are taking advantage of other people's money, and it will run out.

I'm very interested in this answer, as I have been voraciously working on extricating myself from the system for years, and I find it virtually impossible. If ANYONE has figured out how to do it, I'm all ears.

you obviously implement free energy Tesla technology and do away with fossil fuel dependance

tax 50% for all the rich and big corporations and redistribute wealth to poor for self sufficiency, housing and land,

incentives to be self reliant and grow own food

reduce wages for useless labour in government, police, health and insurance

cap the wage for everyone $20 per hour all professions, we are all one, we are all equal resulting in a more equalized socialist system

implement and construct healing temples and circles to transform fear consciousness and replace with divine love and light consciousness

peace and love

Nice idea. My profession is as a beer tester. I get to taste beer all day. Who is going to volunteer to be a plumber, ditch digger, diaper changer? I mean we all make $20.00 and hour. Do you really think you are being practical?

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Thanx US

This is global,

deserves to be STICKY.

I agree. post it on every message board, twitter, facebook, etc. To make it a sticky which I agree would be great as new members would see this and realize there are sane solutions offered to our global crisis, maybe petition the mods to make it sticky? Good idea though, thanks.

yes i am being practical

when you live from the heart, priorities change and consciousness changes

then i guess all the jobs based on fear, jobs like insurance, most government positions, security, military, law enforcement, lawyers, judges, church officials and many more ;
all these jobs are tied to the fear mongering, ego trip materialistic system and NWO slave system societies and will eventually disappear because they are no longer needed in a high vibration loving/ peace environment/world.

what we need is more healers, hypnotherapists, health care, carpenters, free energy technologists, prayer warriors, yoga instructors, horticulture, private agriculture, alternative energy creators, artists, and more creators, growers of hemp and marijuana, magic mushroom farms, etc.,,

spread the peace and love

[Kindred]

I will simply make this post, and leave this thread... I had started a thread a while back regarding the issue of Value.. and what it truly means.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30574-The-Root-of-ALL-Human-Suffering

The thread has a few pages of replies and ideas, all good.

I'll also offer the following items in the understanding that our species has not reached the first Syllable of the word 'Civilization'. I encourage reading them in full, as it will provide some wonderful examples of how Truly Civilized societies exist and Flourish.

http://www.galactic.no/rune/iarga.html

http://www.lanuovaumanita.net/files/tp-typeset.pdf (Chapter 7 / pg 83 deals with the most advanced civilization that has existed on Earth)

Some words of caution on Thiaoouba Prophecy – the knowledge this item provides goes far beyond the issue of this thread, and you may find some of the concepts and knowledge provided to be completely preposterous and beyond belief. A number of items tap into some very heavily indoctrinated aspects of our upbringing and world views, both religious and secular. Please recognize that many of these ideas and paradigms have been promoted specifically to prevent us from understanding the Truth about Our World, and humanity’s circumstances.

However, I Strongly suggest that it is a factual account. I KNOW, as I have a 'connection' with the information it contains.

In Unity, Peace and Love

[Unified Serenity]

Let's bring the thread back on topic. If you have not watched the video please do so. It proves beyond a shadow of doubt that the people own it all via local, State, and Federal investment funds. Have no fear when funds take a hit, they have it on the flip side with derivatives. When one side loses the other side gains.

Watch the video, it's fascinating and well done.

Mr. Burien talks with Mr. Deagle about Gold scam and other issues:

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[Unified Serenity]

Another way to say it:

Hidden Budgets in Every State in America


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[Mulder]

Yep, the CAFR funds are where it's at.....and they're hoping you don't figure it out! The states, oops, I mean the STATES aren't going bankrupt, not even close, and the CAFR funds prove it! And yes, that means California too.....I mean CALIFORNIA. Check this out:

http://www.cafrman.com/index.html

I disagree: because of the law that says states MUST balance their budgets, they will go bankrupt when their money runs out. However, the Federal Govt can burrow to finance a deficit, so it won't go bankrupt.

[Mulder]

I've been waiting for this to be available. The governments have been lying to us for decades with the help of the major media. The fact is last year government made 14 trillion by return on investments whereas the American people only took home 5 trillion after taxes. You must watch this video. Walter Burien does a phenomenal job explaining how the various state and federal governments own it all:

In addition, I heard a speaker (I can't remember who) say the one of the Fed Reserve Bank Chairmans gave a speech after WW2 saying that the Govt no longer needs their taxes, as money can be printed to pay for the Govt! After WW2 there weren't most of the taxes we have now & they still didn't need to collect any tax!

[Unified Serenity]

Yep, the CAFR funds are where it's at.....and they're hoping you don't figure it out! The states, oops, I mean the STATES aren't going bankrupt, not even close, and the CAFR funds prove it! And yes, that means California too.....I mean CALIFORNIA. Check this out:

http://www.cafrman.com/index.html

I disagree: because of the law that says states MUST balance their budgets, they will go bankrupt when their money runs out. However, the Federal Govt can burrow to finance a deficit, so it won't go bankrupt.

The States balance their General Budget which is not the Comprehenisive Financials of the State, big difference.

[Mulder]

Yep, the CAFR funds are where it's at.....and they're hoping you don't figure it out! The states, oops, I mean the STATES aren't going bankrupt, not even close, and the CAFR funds prove it! And yes, that means California too.....I mean CALIFORNIA. Check this out:

http://www.cafrman.com/index.html

I disagree: because of the law that says states MUST balance their budgets, they will go bankrupt when their money runs out. However, the Federal Govt can burrow to finance a deficit, so it won't go bankrupt.

The States balance their General Budget which is not the Comprehenisive Financials of the State, big difference.

Yes, this is correct. I have studied finance and I've seen how budgets & the "bottom line" can easily be manipulated by data transformations, by changing accounting practices and changing the rules e.g. omitting items such as "energy" from the CPI... Also, I'm not American, so I'm not 100% certain on how things work in each of the States.

[Unified Serenity]

Some States require a balanced budget and others do not. I find it most interesting that since Obama has been President the Democrats have not passed a budget at all. That would make them even more responsible, though it's all a game. We have plenty of money.

[Bo Atkinson]

Perhaps life is too complicated to cross check all the points made on this thread. Just skimming through to get an idea, i think this post of June 30 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?1383-The-Continuing-Search-For-The-Truth&p=514550&viewfull=1#post514550) provides the balancing vid, with the other side of the coin. Perhaps all vids have their place, no argument there.

As for my life, i can prove by it that i wasted most of it. Chasing the self-aggrandizement schemes. At this point i can see that scavenging society's waste would have faired me equally well. The overwhelming "belief system" traps us in the control systems. I managed to escape the matrix schools, but still lacked some of the wisdom needed to live attachment-free. By inventing my own contentments, outside of "the system". I do have much more tech now and in time will wean more remaining attachments off.

To relate with community, sure, one trades attachments, to hearts content. One satisfies governance at market value. But if the market sees no value in one's holdings or doings, then one's taxes and burdens are well balanced and so met. Same with commerce, same with needs of endless materialistic attachments. Same with vids which tug a war, pulling out feelings, getting us up tight.

Nature provides great trade offs, but mastering the energy question, still challenges us all. Like how to harmonize 'inert' nitrogen with carbon-oxygen-hydrogen, to grow the food we eat. Then how to deprogram the addictions and indulgences. To enjoy disciplines to the level of entertainments. To surpass the distortions which were inflicted eons past. To harmonize with power brokers still needy of our plight.

Despite the rejections of my best market offerings, of 40+ years (http://harmoniouspalette.com/#index), nature paid back an ecology to presently work with. This is now an occupation. Perhaps occasionally with some increase, but much better if it comes as an ideal release.
http://harmoniouspalette.com/PathsDiverged.jpg

[Sunlite]

I find this shocking! My feeling as I watched this man was how calm he was.....where was he in 2008 when we had the big meltdown? Why has he waited so long to share this?

Also, this shatters my faith in people like Ron Paul, Dennis Kucinich, Sen. Bernie Sanders from VT. and a few others who it appears all know about this and perhaps get in on the perks themselves! How can you be in Congress or big government and not know since it is kept hush hush so these people can amass their fortunes and then leave..

All I hear is that they have so little time to legislate because they have to get back to their state to do fundraising! The key to this is to check out their expense accounts not what they make. So they are going home to really take more breaks and perhaps do a little fundraising but that is only a cover and a lie too.

He also says that if we try to open up this hidden CRIME, they will come after us and take us out....which seems correct seeing how big this is and we are the slaves.

I wonder if the tea party and Occupy movements know about this? How can this be brought out to enough of our citizens to start to make a difference. It is true that I think most of us are entertained by new tv programming and sports so we never know that this is going on behind the scenes. I also feel there is not enough criticial mass of poverty yet to instill an uprising...If you take a look at the stadiums of a football, baseball game and see ALL the seats filled, you do wonder about how badly off we are since the price of these tickets is totally outrageous. So, I think the poor, elderly, sick are feeling all these cuts first and to me there is still a good size middle class and as long as one's life is going along in reasonable comfort, nothing will be done...

I do not really think that we have the power anymore, even though we have the numbers, to overthrow this criminal system. I believe what we see happening in the Middle East, that our white house and congress find appalling, is the same thing that would happen to us if we wanted our freedom from the tyranny of our own government, banks, military industrial complex, pharmaceutical and other huge corporations.

This is shocking to me to know there is plenty of money available to create a whole new system in which there is comfort and security for everyone. The bottom line is, as he mentions, we are all greedy and taught to steal when we can get away with it...But I would like to think that the consciousness is changing, which is what this forum is all about, and that it does not have to continue. I will be sitting and mulling about this for some time. This is the biggest kept secret that has caused the most damage in our history....I am curious to what others have to say about this... I usually do not post in such a passionate way but this really got to me.

May the Force Rise Up,

Sunlite

[Unified Serenity]

Walter Burien is in my estimation a very honorable man who has been in this fight to get the truth out for decades. The media has a black out on this information. On his site, he has a section that talks about when WND / World Net Daily first came out they did a piece on CAFR, but they were taken over and the new owners have never touched the subject again. Many in leadership in Washington and cities are very well aware of what the true balance sheet is, but they play the poor me game with the general budget and use it to tax. There is more than enough money in the funds non in the general fund that we dont need to tax anyone.

The best I can hope is to get this information out, have it re-posted on other forums, blogs, facebook, twitter etc.. Mr. Burien has a very good solution to our problems with his TRF plan, but people are entrenched within the system.

[778 neighbour of some guy]

Still not sticky enough to become sticky eh?

BUMP.

[TargeT]

Yep, the CAFR funds are where it's at.....and they're hoping you don't figure it out! The states, oops, I mean the STATES aren't going bankrupt, not even close, and the CAFR funds prove it! And yes, that means California too.....I mean CALIFORNIA. Check this out:

http://www.cafrman.com/index.html

I disagree: because of the law that says states MUST balance their budgets, they will go bankrupt when their money runs out. However, the Federal Govt can burrow to finance a deficit, so it won't go bankrupt.

The States balance their General Budget which is not the Comprehenisive Financials of the State, big difference.

Yes, this is correct. I have studied finance and I've seen how budgets & the "bottom line" can easily be manipulated by data transformations, by changing accounting practices and changing the rules e.g. omitting items such as "energy" from the CPI... Also, I'm not American, so I'm not 100% certain on how things work in each of the States.

The many states are subdivided themselves into counties, cities, bureau's etc.. each of which has a budget generally & each of which usually has SOME method of "bonding" or some other similar mech. available to it.

HERE's where the CAFR becomes important (and raises some ethical questions)

when a government BOND's (invests) for a project it is done several ways, a multi-year tax to pay off the bond or investments (or a mix of the two), the catch is the governments at all levels (state, city, county etc..) acts like investments are spent money & never touches on them again, these investments generate money & are quite often investments in companies that the government itself is suppose to be policing, so there's a bit of a moral quandary there, for example: in Georgia the state of Georgia (inc) owns a LOT of coke, and coke has huge factories in Georgia that garnish the state not only tax revenue, but investment revenue; how do we expect them to fairly police that which makes them money?

Anyway, finance is like law, (*IMO*) it's made overly complicated to discourage most people from ever even lightly understanding it's workings; another tool of illusion to trap "us"

[Lochinvar]

What I have noticed (through personal experience) is that the national auditors of a country (NAO, GAO etc) are the ones that tend to be the real spies within a nation. They have a lot of control (whilst denying it), access to pretty much anywhere they want to go (like the UN, NATO, ECA etc). Access that can't be rejected. Auditors like this may also notice that when they check the accounts of the so called spies; they are surrounded by those that are not spies (whilst they think they have an intelligence role).

They are in positions where they can cover up money laundering, illegal arms deals and a whole host of other illegal activities.

By lying to their respective parliamentary bodies they undermine the process of democracy. If you have seen this for yourself then you may realise that their prime role is to deny democracy completely and to make voting irrelevant.

[Unified Serenity]

Learn and know how the "big boys" do it. Where the real power deals take place. Knowledge leads to freedom.
This article should be mandatory reading for anyone who is interested in fixing our world.

Government, how to bypass its own monopoly laws
by Walter Burien - CAFR1.com
04/18/12


The feds mandated (by strong suggestion) to local governments back in 1977 at the risk of those local governments loosing federal funding, to comply with preparing a Comprehensive Annual Financial Report (CAFR) or in the alternative if a small local government an Annual Financial Report or Statement (AFR).

All local state governments that were not already doing so complied. Then the states passed statute regulations to all of the thousands of local governments in the state to comply also if not already doing so. Back in 1977, at least 50% of all locals were doing so already. (the program started in 1946)

The monopoly takeover structure started in 1946 with the creation of http://GFOA.org (http://www.gfoa.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=76&Itemid=96) (Government Financial Officers Association) who started the CAFR promotion project to local governments in the US and Canada, and now since the end of the 70's http://GASB.org (http://gasb.org/jsp/GASB/Page/GASBSectionPage&cid=1175804836864) (Government Accounting Standards Board) oversees the accounting policy and guidelines of the CAFR preparation. Both are 100% private associations with almost 100% government accountant / financial management membership.

This gives both GFOA and GASB a clear monopoly by consult over massive equity (tens of trillions of dollars) without being called a government operation. if a government operation HAVING TO BE IN COMPLIANCE with standing monopoly regulations that government bodies were subject to, they would have been shut down a long time ago as a clear monopoly.

You see, being established as private associations directing government by organized and absolute consult, that got around the in place local government and federal monopoly laws effecting government bodies even though both Private Associations having almost 100% government membership.

On the Federal level the counterpart federal "one looks after all" private association overseeing accounting and financial management over enterprise; private; and consult to the other associations was called http://FASB.org (http://www.fasb.org/jsp/FASB/Page/SectionPage&cid=1176154526495)

The Private Associations mentioned here put forth policy and the local or federal governments then had "Plausible Deny-ability" of not being a monopoly by saying we have a "choice in compliance" when in fact the consult policy or direction given is almost always implemented or acted upon as the standard and thus the monopoly is maintained.

GFOA is holding their next annual conference in Chicago (https://www.estoregfoa.org/scriptcontent/index.cfm) during June of this year. I sent last week to the CEO of GFOA a communication requesting if I, CAFR1 could make a presentation to their membership at the conference per the "how to" of elimination of all taxation. You never hear of these organizations openly mentioned being that THEY ARE the power hubs calling the shots in every aspect of government finance, money management, and accounting that directly and indirectly effects well over a hundred-trillion-dollars in government holdings held both domestic and internationally as well as policy enacted by all globally.

Several other ancillary private associations also cropped up over the last several decades to network as a monopoly to influence and direct by consult the trillion-dollar cash flows moving within government insurance; banking; investment; population; and land / water / resource management operations globally.

Government is no longer government as we know it. It is a monopoly of no equal networked through private association in most part started by the government players to circumvent monopoly laws and regulations government itself was subject to as enacted by our fore-father designed to limit government control and take-over of it all. The Federal Reserve was one of these first private associations established with that intent of monopoly in mind from the get-go.
In the political arena, other "private associations" established were the Democratic and Republican party; council of city managers / governors / county managers. Look and you will find them. All networking together with one common theme and agenda: Controlling the massive global wealth for transfer and management to their members from all others across the globe. Price fixing; market manipulations; property transfer; population management; taxation drain; contract assignments; and all policy that effects the before-mentioned. Again said; with the intent of wealth transfer to their gang of internal players.

Almost exclusively these gangs of Private associations were created and are maintained to facilitate the organized wealth transfer of the population into the hands of the collective of government in combination with the financial / industrial complex. The "wizard(s) of OZ behind the curtain".

The population has just been utilized by these organized gangs as a productivity resource to be drained and managed. This has been the standard for over a thousand years. The intricacy of how it is done has developed into what I can only call the "Tower of Babble" refined infinitem in comparison. One layer built upon another, all networked together with the intent and purpose previously stated. The epitome of greed and opportunity exerted unrestrained.

It was unrestrained being that great effort was applied by the gang(s) over the decades to make sure the population was masterfully entertained off in La-La land, with the population never being directed to, or the basics being dealt with ever mentioned; discussed; or debated for intervention by the population DUE TO THE MONEY AND CONTROL involved.

CAFR1 has to make a confession at this point. CAFR1 has worked for over a decade to bring forth into birth its own "Private Association". It has been called by CAFR1 the TRFA (Tax Retirement Fund Association (http://taxretirement.com/)).
There is one "BIG" difference in the "intent" and "purpose" of the TRFA over the other Private Associations rooted primarily to influence government by consult as a networked monopoly for population wealth transfer to themselves.
The difference is the TRFA policy. The written in stone, first commandment primary objective is: To make the population the "First Line Beneficiary" of the investment wealth held by government through the elimination of all personal and corporate taxation through the investment return generated through and by the application of the TRF (Tax Retirement Fund (http://taxretirement.com/)).
Government's own structure; financial management teams; and fund management performance return records establish the TRF accounts can meet the objectives, and the structures are in place today to make it happen tomorrow. One revenue source - taxation is replaced with another - investment / enterprise return.

Government pension funds are established by prospectus with the objective set to be met from the return to pay salaries and benefits from the fund. The TRF is established by prospectus with the objective set from the return to meet local government operating budgets generated from the fund replacing the need for any taxation.

Every government venue in the county has conclusively proved by example that the TRF will work to eliminate all taxation through the example shown in the management of their own collective total multi-trillion dollar pension funds.

What is missing in this equation as to why the TRF is not bursting forth for application all over the country in every venue large and small? The answer is very simple: It is hard to change the standing outcome in a three party discussion between: Wolf, Fox, and Sheep as to what dinner will be.

Government and the financial / industrial complex has been teamed up together for over a thousand years to utilize the population as a productivity resource to be drained and managed. This circumstance never was a good thing, nor will it ever be a good thing.
The TRF application facilitated by the TRFA under what I will call the twelve commandments (#1 noted above), levels the playing field for the Wolf, Fox, and Sheep and is truly a win-win for all involved.

Additionally, with the massive fund balances available for capital reinvestment; the return generated therefrom allowing for no-taxation thus building the population's wealth base and purchasing power, the combination of the two preceding factors generating the revenue from the return on the TRF accounts for government operations without any taxation needed, this all leads to a prosperous economy for the next one-thousand-years for one-and-all.
I emphasize the "fact" that the structure in government is in place today to make this happen tomorrow if the public's spirit and fight to make it happen is energized to do so. I am working on it so prepare for the tidal wave to crest soon and reach land.

Dinner then by democratic vote is no longer exclusively mutton, but diner expands to an unlimited selection of many main-courses derived exclusively from the massive returns generated from the TRF accounts within and from a thriving economy and prosperous lifestyle of the population of the US and then the world..
It is happening. The only circumstances you personally will be faced with are:
1. Making it happen
2. Watching it happen.
3. Or asking what happened?


If you wish to assist or continue to assist CAFR1 towards having funds in its effort to make the above happen, then please click on the following http://cafr1.com/DNT.html to pitch in or in the alternative send to the address below.

For some strange and odd reason I am not expecting any government grants or funding to make this happen. That gang is too busy taking your money by force of taxation to back any other form of funding their operating costs over the easy take through taxation in place today targeted at the mark, you..

This is a war and you are the army. Now let's see how much funding will be provided to fight the battles and to win the war.. For: One-and-all
Please share this communication with all that you know.


Sent FYI for your action / circulation and truly yours from,


Walter Burien - CAFR1.com (http://CAFR1.com)
P. O. Box 2112
Saint Johns, AZ 85936

[Unified Serenity]

This article spells out the numbers. Anyone who is still ignorant just doesn't want the truth. Why are so few people aware of this? Because it has to do with

A. U.S. posted it
B. It's finance and no one wants to learn it
C. It's not a juicy conspiracy cooked up by some nut, but he actually has the damn proof!

So, here is one more article by Walter Burien, one of the greatest truth tellers this country has ever had:

Is Our Government Bankrupt?
by Walter Burien - 05/10/10

http://CAFR1.com/FALLINING-BILLS.gif

Analogies are fun to use:

Is the Colombian cocaine cartel short of cocaine?

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The most important things to look at per government are the basics:

1. What was the income of that local government in 1998 - 2002 - 2005 - 2007 - 2010

EXAMPLE: Now if Bill Gates had a net worth and income of:

* In 1998 a net worth of 51 billion and 4 billion income.
* Then in 2002 a net worth of 56 billion and 5 billion income.
* Then for 2005 a net worth of 62 billion and income of 7 billion
* Then in 2007 a net worth of 71 billion and income of 8 billion
* But then in 2010 his net worth dropped to 65 billion and his income was now 6 billion, would he be crying "bankrupt"?
(Bill Gates Numbers above are for example use only):

Let's present this information above in two ways.

The first will be the way the government is presenting it:

1. Our income in 2010 has dropped down by almost 25% from 2007 and our losses brought our net worth down by 6 billion dollars, we have been severely damaged by the weakened economy since 2007 and must fire employees, raise taxes, and cut back services...

And now for a reality look and check using different parameters:

2. Our income from 1998 to 2010 has increased by 2 billion dollars (50% INCREASE) AND our net worth has increased by 14 billion dollars (about 35% INCREASE)

So on example #2 the key questions to ask yourself are:

1. What was the population increase from 1998 to 2010? If it was 12%, 18%, 20%, or 25% government by the numbers is clearly in the black.(in most cases it was probably under 15%)

2. What was the "real" rate of inflation from 1998 now adjusted for 2010? If 10% to 20% by the numbers government STILL is clearly in the black.

3. The last primary factor to look at is: What was the average increase in the population's income from 1998 to 2010 for comparison with the governments income increase?

Now these are the basics which of course a complete vacuum and void is created in the minds of the population due to the money involved. Focus your attention here to determine if you have a government that is a "for profit and a take-over machine" or a government "representative of the people's interests"

I have looked many a times and know in advance you will not be pleased with what you find when you look.

What is the difference in the presentation of the bankrupt scenario? ANS: A bunch of spoiled and ruthless yuppies of which most are attorneys greasing the skids as they dot the "I's" and cross the "T's" walking with as much cash as they can today as they with a strong arm also lock in the productivity value of the next five to seven generations. Their presentation of prospective has worked easily and grandly for them over the last 70 years and there is nothing of any consequence stopping them as of today so the beat goes on!

Government "plays" great paupers to the media for presentation to the public while at the same time having the net worth of a million Bill Gates. The perspective you are spoon feed from your government is NOT in your interests but in theirs as the US / local government financial "empires" continues to expand Worldwide..

__________________________________________________________________________________________________

"I Love LA" and so do the local politicians, government attorneys, and their bloated pockets love LA also!


FOR THOSE FROM LA:

LA short of funds right? LA County's "budget" income = 17.5 billion dollars / year

For Los Angeles, the key issue not addressed per LA being short of funds is:

What were they bringing in for 2000, 2005, and now 2010 to see the reality of abuses per gross income.

What is Los Angeles County''s annual operating budget as of 2009?

Well it is 17.5 billion dollars and It is about time people started looking at the "true reality".

I bet you nor anyone living in LA County never knew LA County''s kitty was that big each year....

In other words: If they are bringing in equal to or more revenue than in 2000 or 2005, why the big cuts??? (too much greasing of the skids over the last five years probably)

For the "County" of LA CAFR - http://file.lacounty.gov/lac/cms1_141548.pdf
(http://file.lacounty.gov/lac/cms1_141548.pdf)
For the "City" of LA CAFR - http://controller.lacity.org/stellent/groups/ElectedOfficials/@CTR_Contributor/documents/Contributor_Web_Content/LACITYP_009064.pdf



What is any easy mark? ANSWER: Someone who does not look or know what reality is due to the orchestrations of others... and with these types of numbers people better start looking rather fast.

It is one thing as to what is there and it is totally another of how fast it can disappear if no one is looking!


School Districts in LA?

Another good place to look would be in an area you have had first hand experience with if you have children.

Here you can see that what you thought you knew was not a clear or complete picture of what was:

Los Angeles School District 2008 CAFR -http://notebook.lausd.net/pls/ptl/docs/PAGE/CA_LAUSD/LAUSDNET/OFFICES/CFO_HOME/2008-09%2520CAFR_FINAL%25202-25-10.PDF

Los Angeles School District 2006 CAFR -http://notebook.lausd.net/pls/ptl/url/ITEM/5B0A360C41211054E0430A0002101054
(http://notebook.lausd.net/pls/ptl/url/ITEM/5B0A360C41211054E0430A0002101054)
And then an eye opener along the lines of lack of transparency of funds over 100 billion dollars, CALSTERS -the Teachers Retirement Fund 2002 CAFR gives a detailed listing of specific investments where 2009 there is no clear showing outside of general percentages shown. I also note that the word "unaudited" crops up to many times in the 2009 report:

2002 - http://www.calstrs.com/HELP/forms_publications/printed/02cafr/CAFR03all.pdf

2009 - http://www.calstrs.com/help/forms_publications/printed/CurrentCAFR/cafr_2009.pdf

CAFR1located the "listing of investments held by CALSTERS and they can be viewed here - http://CAFR1.com/CALSTRS.html

Walter Burien - CAFR1
P. O. Box 2112
Saint Johns, AZ 85936

[Unified Serenity]

I just went over to the Drudge Report for the first time today, and what lies do I read?


Article (http://news.yahoo.com/californias-biggest-community-college-fights-survive-031300133.html)


California's biggest community college fights to survive

http://l1.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/FZN6924R0WZ__x92.x6.GA--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9Zml0O2g9Mjc-/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/logo/reuters/d0c3eb8ca18907492a4b337b5cec5193.jpeg (http://www.reuters.com/)By Ronnie Cohen

SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - California's largest community college, the City College of San Francisco, will be forced to close next year if it fails to address a raft of longstanding problems that the school blames on state budget cuts.


The two-year college that serves 90,000 students risks becoming the first in California to lose its accreditation since 2006, triggering funding cuts that could shutter the school.
The threatened loss of accreditation for the school, which would occur in June 2013, comes as California's heralded system of public universities and colleges groans under the pressure of reduced government funding and curtailed school budgets.


It's all a bunch of lies. They have more money than they know what to do with, and they keep it out of the general budget. WAKE -UP People!

[truthseekerdan]

If we wanted a Truly Advanced civilization, we would realize that Money is NOT NEEDED...

It is simply a means by which to Separate/Divide the People - the Haves, and Have-Nots

THIS is WHY Jesus threw the money changers from the temple.

THROW OUT THE MONEY CHANGERS, and DO AWAY WITH MONEY

ONLY Then, will you have a truly egalitarian society.

In Unity, Peace and Love

In reality, money is very simple in that it makes trade easier. Money is not the root of all evil, but the love of money. Keep even scales and fair play in the mix and the world is a much happier place. Let the thieves into the vault and you have imbalance.

But, according to what I know living in this system, the goal of pretty much everyone is to acquire more money, and therefore more wealth. How do we call that then, if not the "love of money"? Is it greediness a byproduct of the "love of money"?

Just thinking out loud... ;)

[Unified Serenity]

Well, we have lost our moral compass truthseeker. I just watched a reality show over the past few weeks about regular American's going to Montana to live like we did in the 1800's. There were 6 families, all had different situations upon arriving at their homesteads. They had to live there for some 5 months in this experiment. One family arrived and there was a house, outhouse, and a coral for their cow and horse. Most of the others arrived and had literally nothing. They each had to put up homes, grow food, and take care of the land and animals. In the end they would be graded on how well they did. Only the mixed race couple did well. They had a good marriage, the young mans father lived with them, and they got it done. Two of the others seemed at odds from the beginning with each other. The one who arrived to a ready set up homestead was very judgemental about another family who was using their coral for their cow. The family with everything was nicknamed the "Olsons" like the family on little house on the prairie.

To me, it would have been smart for all the families to work together to erect homes, corals, outhouses, and set up planting. Instead they got into an ego fest and treated it like a competition. Our morals today are screwed up. I think it would have been a much different experience had they worked together and not lived so separately from each other. I don't mean geographically, but spirit of community and caring.

For me, money is a tool. If I need something, I work and get it. If I don't then I don't worry about it.

[mattymoto]

I have taken the initiative to embed this video to the Facebook page of former gov. Gary Johnson and congressman Ron Paul with a brief few questions. I would have also posted to Mitt Romney's page, but he apparently doesn't allow that sort of thing.

Let's see if they respond to a concerned citizen's questions.

http://www.facebook.com/govgaryjohnson

http://www.facebook.com/#!/ronpaul

I'm not full of high hopes on this one. I just thought I would see what info this might get us in the fight for truth.

Ok, so I posted these at just a few minutes after 7pm est.


It appears to still be on Gary Johnson's page, but doesn't appear to still be posted on Ron Paul's page. I'm curious what answers I may get. Here are my questions.




"I'm curious about what you're opinions of one Walter Burien and CAFR? What are your thoughts on the false claims that we are broke and need to be taxed further to meet our financial obligations?

Is it plausible-- that through investments, at the local, state, and federal levels, that there are returns on those investments that go curiously unreported to "we the people"? If so, would it also be plausible, that these investment returns would-- in fact, contain enough funds to operate the government obligations without the need for current levels of taxation?

Here is a video that may better explain the basis for my questions.

Thank you for you attention."

[Unified Serenity]

Wow, now that is being proactive, good job! Nice idea, hope people see it and start to ask questions.



I have taken the initiative to embed this video to the Facebook page of former gov. Gary Johnson and congressman Ron Paul with a brief few questions. I would have also posted to Mitt Romney's page, but he apparently doesn't allow that sort of thing.

Let's see if they respond to a concerned citizen's questions.

http://www.facebook.com/govgaryjohnson

http://www.facebook.com/#!/ronpaul

I'm not full of high hopes on this one. I just thought I would see what info this might get us in the fight for truth.

Ok, so I posted these at just a few minutes after 7pm est.



It appears to still be on Gary Johnson's page, but doesn't appear to still be posted on Ron Paul's page. I'm curious what answers I may get. Here are my questions.




"I'm curious about what you're opinions of one Walter Burien and CAFR? What are your thoughts on the false claims that we are broke and need to be taxed further to meet our financial obligations?

Is it plausible-- that through investments, at the local, state, and federal levels, that there are returns on those investments that go curiously unreported to "we the people"? If so, would it also be plausible, that these investment returns would-- in fact, contain enough funds to operate the government obligations without the need for current levels of taxation?

Here is a video that may better explain the basis for my questions.

Thank you for you attention."

[mattymoto]

Wow, now that is being proactive, good job! Nice idea, hope people see it and start to ask questions.



I have taken the initiative to embed this video to the Facebook page of former gov. Gary Johnson and congressman Ron Paul with a brief few questions. I would have also posted to Mitt Romney's page, but he apparently doesn't allow that sort of thing.

Let's see if they respond to a concerned citizen's questions.

http://www.facebook.com/govgaryjohnson

http://www.facebook.com/#!/ronpaul

I'm not full of high hopes on this one. I just thought I would see what info this might get us in the fight for truth.

Ok, so I posted these at just a few minutes after 7pm est.



It appears to still be on Gary Johnson's page, but doesn't appear to still be posted on Ron Paul's page. I'm curious what answers I may get. Here are my questions.




"I'm curious about what you're opinions of one Walter Burien and CAFR? What are your thoughts on the false claims that we are broke and need to be taxed further to meet our financial obligations?

Is it plausible-- that through investments, at the local, state, and federal levels, that there are returns on those investments that go curiously unreported to "we the people"? If so, would it also be plausible, that these investment returns would-- in fact, contain enough funds to operate the government obligations without the need for current levels of taxation?

Here is a video that may better explain the basis for my questions.

Thank you for you attention."

Well I'm a bit disheartened that Ron Paul removed it only minutes after I posted, yet a tiny glimmer of hope that Gary Johnson hasn't censored this concerned citizen-- yet.

[Unified Serenity]

Ron Paul is a distraction, plain and simple. While everyone puts their hopes on his message, his campaign we wait. Waiting seems to be the watchword at this time. I think we are getting the frog treatment.