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Jeffrey
2nd July 2012, 20:57
Who and What are the Extraterrestrial Cosmic Powers
by Gabriel Chiron


ETI attitudes toward humanity are not very flattering.

Humanity of the planet Earth is generally considered to be an inferior and unworthy species for a variety of reasons, which we are going to go into, but before we do that, you should be warned that you are probably going to find the truth of mankind and your own personal humanity rather upsetting and against your beliefs. Human beings cannot easily handle the truth about humanity because that is an integral part of the human condition. Ignorant pride cannot handle being told that it is an inferior individual with learning disabilities.

If it could be shown the truth of ignorant pride and learning disability, if would no longer completely be in that state. This is particularly true of human beings who have risen to positions of relative intellectual superiority, professional expertise or political authority on the Earth, for a slight superiority here on Earth is still an inferiority elsewhere.

Of course there are cosmically adequate individuals within humanity on the Earth, sometimes called "Ultraterrestrials", but they are sociologically irrelevant, tend to remain hidden and disguised, and are statistically next-to-nothing as a social group because of their rarity.

So, who is this article for?

It is for any human being who humbly and sincerely aspires to true learning in spite of the general state of humanity. Though this article may very well confront your present cosmogony, worldview or paradigm, your choice is whether to shift into a higher state of learning or to become resistant and upset.

If you are going to be resistant, upset, and feel angry or threatened, then you should acknowledge that you are having a rough ride here and perhaps need to go elsewhere to other kinds of articles that are more resonant with your present level and type of knowledge and understanding about ETI (Extraterrestrial Intelligence).

Also, you should not worry that lots and lots of people are going to take to my present views in neglect of yours, for most people are too stupid and silly to embrace my ideas and are more likely to adhere to yours, which are more their speed.

You should also keep in mind that though I am your superior, which you will not wish to acknowledge, I do not feel superior anywhere in the Universe, but only on this, our planet Earth. And even this feeling here is more like a burden than a social pleasure. You would have to be in my position, in fact, to understand it, for I am a kind of Ultraterrestrial and you are not. And even this you cannot accept very much, even if you are not too far gone. It is too hard on your intellectual pride, questions your authority and devastates your present inadequate cosmogony.

If you are not here to learn, how will you learn?

Which explains why I avoid personal contacts with people who read my articles, for my students come to me through other means than responding to publicly produced articles. My articles are a public service, not an advertisement for selling things nor an attempt to organize a social movement that random persons could join and help to promote socially or politically. I do not care, for instance, who you will vote for in your nation-state elections because whoever you will vote for will be an ignorant, proud, silly and deceitful person whose private life is degenerate and unevolved.

Collective trends of humanity and its criminally insane leaders will tend to be pretty much the same no matter which brand of criminally insane leader is put into office.

Now, for anyone capable of learning, here is a breakdown of five (5) critical zones of evaluation of humanity on the part of ETI (Extraterrestrial Intelligence) in general, though emphasis changes somewhat from one ET race to the next, though all races (and they are uncountable zillions in the Universe) will tend to more or less agree with this general assessment.





1- Stupid Ignorance
ETI regards human beings as the most stupid and ignorant race on any planet that has written language and technology. Human beings are seen to be wholly lacking in Cosmic Knowledge, due to both the isolation-and-quarantine of Earth and the general tendency of human beings to reject genuine Cosmic Knowledge due to pride, prejudice and inability to learn. Earth Science is seen as crude, primitive and missing several important dimensions. Earth Theology is seen as a cluster of warring, pathetic fragments that lack coherence and full-blown mystical experience even among the best of mystics, who invariably labour under this or that cultural prejudice. Earth Philosophy is seen as virtually non-existent with a dreadful lack of genuine original thinkers.

ETI sees human beings as not just stupid, ignorant and incapable of learning, but almost wholly blocked by rigid belief and disbelief cognitive systems. Because of this, they see very few human beings asking the right questions or becoming receptive to superior sources of knowledge even when offered such knowledge or possible connection with the sources of it.

ETI, because of this deplorable cognitive state of humanity, find virtually all human beings of the planet Earth to be incredibly boring and pathetic. Intellectually and psychically, human beings are regarded as dull and undeveloped, lacking higher psychic functions, and hardly worthy of being called "human". Humanity is on average subhuman from the standpoint of ETI. When human beings from Earth are occasionally brought to other star-systems or taken on space voyages, they are treated more as pets or retarded imbeciles.

This also explains why there cannot be valid political negotiations of any socio-political group on Earth with any Extraterrestrial race or governing body of races on any scale of organization. Human beings are on too low a level of intelligence and lack psychic development. As an analogy, could you expect ranchers or farmers to politically negotiate with herds of cattle or flocks of sheep?

Whatever "deals" the dominant bulls or rams might make with ranchers or farmers would only be plausible to herds of cattle or flocks of sheep, but would have nothing whatsoever to do with the real intentions of the ranchers or farmers.

This is why, for instance, any "deals" made with ET's on the part of the secret American government (or any other Earth grouping, such as Bilderberger types, Illuminati or the like) are nothing but a pathetic farce from the standpoint of any ETI grouping, whatever their remit or motivation set.

2- Silly Egotism

ETI sees human beings and their leaders as false human beings easily give to pretending they are something they are not. Human beings are invariably self-enclosed, proud, vain, overestimating of their own importance, conceited, arrogant and ridiculous. They are not only stupid and boring, but almost always feel superior to one another, or look up with blind admiration to highly unworthy persons of religious, cultural or political authority. They will cast their vote for dull, uneducated and thoughtless movie-stars while feeling superior to their neighbors. They will criticize anyone who does not flatter or favor them, but cannot themselves hear constructive criticism.

ETI sees human beings as sadly out of touch with the truth of their human condition.

ETI sees that human beings do not understand or acknowledge their own Souls or higher spiritual nature.

ETI sees human beings as inauthentic people, as virtual herd animals dwelling each one in their self-styled fog of arrogant opinions inculcated into them by the leading political, business and religious leaders. Even the manipulating leaders are also seen as hypnotized fools carrying on with absurd beliefs they got from their predecessors.

Take a look at the various Star Trek episodes that portray humanity of Earth as the leading ethical intelligence of the Galaxy. They travel about the Galaxy as Lords-of-the-Galaxy sorting out all the supposedly defective and pathetic Extraterrestrial races.

From the standpoint of ETI, these stories the American science fiction experts are telling are nothing but infantile aberrations of a deluded race of arrogant morons! A race of actually defective people from Earth traveling in space if and when the quarantine is lifted will tend more to be dreaded by ETI than warmly welcomed, even if ETI is in a compassionate mood.

A group of sex-crazed morons waving pistols who tend to see Extraterrestrials as Alien Monsters are just not going to do well.

3- Biological Roboticism

ETI sees human beings of Earth as lacking genuine Free Will. Though human beings pride themselves on "thinking for themselves", "not belonging to cults", "making their own choices" and so on, it is hard to find an authentic human being who does real thinking, is free from prejudice and possessing an individual decision-system that acts with a freedom to act beyond mere habit, conditioning, routine or clinging to familiar things, people and ideas.

Human beings are seen as something more like helpless robots running in programmed ruts than actual free spirits who can understand or do something unusual or "out of character" for them. Human beings, like herd animals, cling to conditioned norms and pseudo-moralities (like the "War on Terror") even when the norms and pseudo-moralities are destructive to their health and sanity. They tend to hate anyone who is "different", so various cultures, subcultures, nations, languages and peoples are all treated as virtual enemies. In fact, anyone who is "different" or "foreign" is even called "alien", as if they might as well be Extraterrestrials, who they also call Aliens.

All over the globe of Earth, there are these divisions and conflicts of varying types of mechanical, conditioned habit-structure of body and mind.

4- Criminal Insanity

ETI sees human beings as mentally disturbed, usually suffering from unhappiness and negativity with tendencies toward violence or the support of violence and warfare of various Earth collectives against other collectives that are regarded as inferior or threatening. They also see pervasive dishonesty, tendency to cheat or steal, and general mistreatment of "loved ones" with harsh language or occasional blows or slaps of violence.

ETI sees very few of actually kind and loving people who will at least gently tolerate those who are "different". They see human beings as tending to be lazy, irresponsible, not doing the work they should be doing, often not doing the work right when they have agreed to do the work, and not willing to look at shared problems of the community or the world.

ETI sees humanity as not sincerely wanting to solve or correct the destructive actions of humanity, which means that humanity is seen as generally self-destructive, suicidal and degenerate, both socially and personally.

ETI sees humanity as so criminally insane that they will on average vote for and support criminally insane leaders and follow them. They see that even when the truth of criminally insane leadership is made publicly available, the majority and the mass media dilute the truth and carry on as if everything is OK, trying to believe the lies and cover-ups of the leaders. Hence they do not see the masses as innocent victims of their manipulating leaders, but see that those same masses would personally behave the same as the leaders if given leadership. They see genuine ethical intelligence as a minority of humanity at best, with even most of those infected with various kinds of insanity, neurosis and mental debilitation from simply dwelling amongst average upset people.

ETI sees the normal humanity as truly paranoid schizophrenic, not mentally healthy. That is why they see that any individual on Earth who wants to be mentally healthy will have to go beyond normal and not "adjust" to it. To be adjusted to the normal on Earth is to be stupid and mentally ill.

No ETI in his or her right mind would want to be "normal" on the planet Earth as a member of humanity.

5- Physically Impure and Short-lived

ETI sees human beings as self-poisoned from wrong eating and drinking as well as environmentally poisoned from chemical pollution, harmful radiation of various kinds, genetically modified food and harmful bacteria or viruses.

ETI knows that Extraterrestrials live much longer, healthier lives than the sick, poisoned and short-lived people of the Earth. Hence, the Earth is seen as a diseased sh*thole, a kind of Hell. It is seen as a place where only the most hardy Souls might incarnate for a boost of intense living in a state of dangerous debilitation for a dubious individual gain, or as a place where Souls might have to incarnate as a punishment for misbehavior on a normal, healthy planet of their previous origin.

They are aware that sometimes a Great Soul will incarnate on Earth out of a Divine Compassion, like Buddha, Christ or Krishna, but they consider that even that is generally a rather foolhardy and self-destructive effort which is not to be recommended. For the human beings of Earth tend to mistreat, ignore or otherwise distort the meaning of Superhuman personages who try to take birth and help out. In fact, more than one wiseman, sage or mystic has been martyred on Earth for being unacceptably intelligent or remarkable in some way, which means "different" to the subhuman collective humanity of this or that local region and historical time.

ETI sees human beings as living in fear of disease, old age and death, but of not having the kind of enlightened anxiety that would give them what Heidegger calls Authenticity and Resoluteness as a deeply thoughtful existential response to the inevitability of one's personal death as an individual instead of a mere member of the family and society.


All of humanity's speculations and plans for traveling to the stars, meeting other races, attempting to live in colonies on other worlds and doing "exopolitics" or organized negotiations with Extraterrestrial races, whether in this Galaxy or some other, are at present wholly lacking in objectivity of how the state of the average human being compares to the state of the average Extraterrestrial Being.

All such speculations and plans are themselves presently aberrated. Humanity is in deep sh*t and not even beginning to solve and resolve self-caused problems, destructions and conflicts on Earth.

It gets worse. Even if you or others wake up to the truth of all this, it will not take you long to find out that all of us who are awake are wholly and decisively outnumbered by those who prefer to sleep, which means that the coming massive destructions and megadeaths on the planet cannot be prevented.

We can share the truth of all this among ourselves, but there is no way we can popularize the real Cosmic Knowledge or make it acceptable to the masses or their leaders in any country. However it may help us as individuals in our own self-education and development, we cannot realistically expect to have a massive sociological or political effectiveness.

For us, the Earth is a school, not an opportunity for effective change of humanity and the world. Humanity is to learn through shock, not through voluntary, innovative learning. This is not only true in regard to trends on the Earth, but also in regard to Extraterrestrial Intelligence. For instance, the dominant and presently abusive societies and governments such as America, Britain, Russia and China are exactly those that may be most subject to a rough takeover by an abusive Reptilian race, which has been rightly pointed out by various sources as a real possibility.

So, if we do experience shocking results from Outer Space in the near future, they are not necessarily going to be of the same character for all regions of the Earth. There may be a division of responsibilities from a variety of sectors of the Galaxy or even from beyond the Galaxy.

This is why we should try to avoid the usual simplistic models of the future that see only a singular invasion, intervention or even total non-interference of one specific kind. We should look more deeply into the idea that each society on Earth will get the invasion, intervention or non-interference from the exact kind of ETI race that is most deserved or necessary. A uniform response from Beyond is not very realistic, but simplistic speculations or expectations are always easier for the posturing dogmatic brain of most people, which brings us back to the category of Stupid Ignorance described above.

ETI is a superior and complex presence to humanity that is not easy to understand even where a human lone individual is willing and able to process cosmic information to the fullest extent possible.

Various organized social groupings in and around the subject are invariably too naive or too government manipulated to be of real service to the sincerely truth-seeking aspiration of a strong and spiritual intellect armed with genuine humility and learning capacity.

In deepest realism it must be said that a Sufi, Yogi or Zen Master is more likely to truly understand ETI than an American New Ager caught-up in "crystal healing" or a pseudo-scientific UFO Investigator caught-up in crying out for an end to government cover-up and hoping to also be abducted by Aliens (wow!).

Source: http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vida_alien/alien_extraterrcosmicpowers.htm

Star Tsar
2nd July 2012, 21:15
Not I for I am an Avalonian!
:biggrin:

D-Day
2nd July 2012, 21:20
Yep, and loving it! ;)

RMorgan
2nd July 2012, 21:22
Hahahahahaha!! I just loved the thread´s title! :)

Jokes apart, I agree with most part of the article.

Some people believe we´re wonderful love and light beings very worthy of some kind of salvation. I think this perspective is completely selfish and anthropocentric.

Just look what we´ve done to our planet, and please, don´t blame others for that. The PTB/Cabal/Elite/Whatever wouldn´t have managed to make such mess without our contribution; that´s for sure because we´re the ones who give them our money in the first place, buying whatever product they sell without thinking about the consequences.

Who am I to say what´s our role in the cosmic big picture but, if we analyze our current position, well, saving us or leaving us alone to destroy ourselves wouldn´t make any difference to the universe at all, in my opinion.

Earth/Gaia, particularly, would be much better without us. If we don´t stop behaving like a cancer, in this case, letting us destroy ourselves means that Earth will have an opportunity to restore and heal herself, which is, from a galactic balance point of view, a very good thing.

Raf.

Jackson
2nd July 2012, 21:25
Yep! This pretty much describes us!

778 neighbour of some guy
2nd July 2012, 22:41
So, they noticed eh, who knew ?

I accept their qualification of us as 99% correct, guilty as charged.

:o

Flash
2nd July 2012, 22:44
And so what?

(morons comment, could not avoid it)

RunningDeer
2nd July 2012, 22:58
Snowbird posted this same article on the, "From Bill Ryan -- the Ultimate Hypothesis (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?46887-From-Bill-Ryan-the-Ultimate-Hypothesis/page7)" thread. It’s created questions and stirred up feelings like:

How can we begin to interact on the Cosmic level is we haven’t figured out how here? It’s time to get down to the business of discovery of Truth of our innate potential and co-create.

“Who and What are the Extraterrestrial Cosmic Powers” (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vida_alien/alien_extraterrcosmicpowers.htm)

I have to agree with a lot of this article, if/when we are painted with broad strokes.


”...reject genuine Cosmic Knowledge due to pride, prejudice and inability to learn...”

I might be stating the obvious here, but if left alone, without all that is tampered with, controlled and manipulated, we’d get there. Really, have we ever had the chance to find the sweet spot of life and living?

After reading, “Intergalactic Politics (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vida_alien/alien_intergalacticpolitics.htm),” I say, “That’s it. Everybody out. Leave this planet to Us. We’ll figure it out. Power mongers, you too. Out!”

Meanwhile, upgrades in our innate abilities continue to develop. We work in unison with our Mother Earth to create a balance to the point that no thought need to come into play. Bounty is provided when and where it makes itself known through Mother Earth and all her Creations. Oh, wait... that sounds familiar...multi-D familiar. Let’s meet... You coming?

Mike Gorman
2nd July 2012, 22:58
Yeah, sounds like the Human Race here on Earth. Mind you, I bet the beings who adopt this supercilious attitude often visit Earth to let their hair down and hear some decent Rock 'n Roll!
We can only work with what we have after all? Do we 'blame' indigenous tribal people for not having Automobiles, and Computers?
We may exploit the less technically advanced peoples of the world, I wonder if the lofty ETI beings seek to exploit us in their way?
You cannot lay blame for ontological opportunity. ETI must have benefited from having advanced opportunity, more time, greater exposure to different races
and knowledge?We are doing our Best!

778 neighbour of some guy
2nd July 2012, 23:09
G`damn aliens, they tuk ur jubs, ur women and them aliens smell funny too, we dont take kindly to them spacefolks, where`s my banjo at women!!

Come to the light side, we have wookies.

heysoulsister
2nd July 2012, 23:20
Yup I can own that.
and yet
What does that make those that came in and interfered, tinkered and otherwise knowingly mislead us and further condemned us into our "specialness"
Maybe it's time for us to drive the short bus instead of ride in it :noidea:

another bob
2nd July 2012, 23:48
There are abundant choices for incarnation throughout the multiverse, but some of us choose Earth, precisely since it is such a challenge, and because humans are so different from what we are in our native form of light beings that we are intrigued, in much the same way we might like scary movies. The more time we spend here, the more intrigued we get, and so end up dropping in often, until the human experience has lost its usefulness for our development. Even then, we may continue to stop by now and then to help our soul family who might still be working through various issues.

Speaking of Great Beings, Buddha suggested that Earth was the best planet on which to incarnate, if one wanted to grow spiritually. Why? The greater the challenge, the bigger the pay-off in terms of quickened evolution. When things are groovy and galactic and all, it's easy to forget about suffering and impermanence, but just because it might be subtle, doesn't mean it isn't there. As Jerry Garcia noted, "When life looks like easy street, there is danger at your door."

In fact, it's much more difficult to advance without friction, and Earth fits the bill if you are lookin for friction. Buddha indicated that the really wise were lining up at a chance to get a human body, because only in that way could liberation truly initiate.

One of my teachers, the Zen Master Joshu Sasaki Roshi, once noted that zazen on the battle field was ten times more effective than zazen in the zendo. Why? Because on the battle field, we are much more vigorously tested, and so have more opportunity to find out what we are truly made of. The same lesson applies to incarnating as humans.

Whoever these ETI folks are, they appear to be rather ignorant of that, and so I would take their critique with a grain of salt, frankly. There are high universal beings far more advanced than the ones whose opinions have been portrayed in that text, and those are the ones who are really worth listening to, because they have abandoned their sophmoric arrogance and become the humble servants of the universe, beyond the judgmentalism of the less mature ET species who, in their own short-sightednesss, may view this little virtual reality scenario called "Earth" with such mis-placed disdain.

Unified Serenity
3rd July 2012, 00:01
I think they are just jealous. Funny thread though.

9eagle9
3rd July 2012, 03:45
but what is the solution? There must be a solution.

Stop ACTING like a retard?

Noo..

Stop BEING a retard.

Not to impugn on those who have retardation of an organic nature who are actually quite a bit more intelligent than the rest of us.

the_vast_mystery
3rd July 2012, 04:59
The one interesting thing is this, the "retarded humans" line of reasoning only holds valid if humans can be said to have 100% created this situation by themselves with absolutely no outside assistance or interventions whatsoever. However if humans have been being messed with collectively either via aliens or some other force then while we certainly would share some of the blame our fault would depend on so many specifics as to render the summary judgement of humans being "retarded" as imbecilic in it of itself.

It'd be the same as a con-artist calling an 80 year old retiree retarded. Yes they sure may have fallen for your scam about losing an engagement ring or discovering a priceless violin but it's not like they left their money in plain sight unattended. It was actively coerced out of them through playing on their sympathies and tricking them.

I find something immensely disdainful about preying on the vulnerable or trusting and reducing their "trust" to "retardedness." Which isn't to say I don't agree with some level of the assessment either. It's actually quite unfortunately accurate, it merely misses that if this current state of affairs was actively in some way created by outside forces then we really can't be considered 100% responsible for it either. Or, to put it another way. If I were to drug my coworker's drink with a poison that causes them to descend into permanent dementia, is my coworker a retard for not somehow suspecting me, noticing it, and preventing the dementia or is he now a retard because I purposefully impaired his mental facilities?

(In short, assigning singular blame to any one party for complex situations involving multiple players, is, itself, retarded. ;p)

delfine
3rd July 2012, 05:07
Who and What are the Extraterrestrial Cosmic Powers
by Gabriel Chiron

ETI attitudes toward humanity are not very flattering.

Humanity of the planet Earth is generally considered to be an inferior and unworthy species for a variety of reasons, which we are going to go into, but before we do that, you should be warned that you are probably going to find the truth of mankind and your own personal humanity rather upsetting and against your beliefs. Human beings cannot easily handle the truth about humanity because that is an integral part of the human condition. Ignorant pride cannot handle being told that it is an inferior individual with learning disabilities.

In deepest realism it must be said that a Sufi, Yogi or Zen Master is more likely to truly understand ETI than an American New Ager caught-up in "crystal healing" or a pseudo-scientific UFO Investigator caught-up in crying out for an end to government cover-up and hoping to also be abducted by Aliens (wow!).

Source: http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vida_alien/alien_extraterrcosmicpowers.htm

He he, now ain´t that the truth...:D

It´s hard not to agree with the OP..sadly

Whiskey_Mystic
3rd July 2012, 05:25
breaking news - you are a retarded imbecile

I knew it ! !

Hervé
3rd July 2012, 05:43
Who and What are the Extraterrestrial Cosmic Powers
by Gabriel Chiron


[...]

Ignorant pride cannot handle being told that it is an inferior individual with learning disabilities.

[...]



1- Stupid Ignorance
ETI regards human beings as the most stupid and ignorant race on any planet that has written language and technology. Human beings are seen to be wholly lacking in Cosmic Knowledge, due to both the isolation-and-quarantine of Earth and the general tendency of human beings to reject genuine Cosmic Knowledge due to pride, prejudice and inability to learn. [...]
Source: http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vida_alien/alien_extraterrcosmicpowers.htm

That's enough of an example of a typical psychopathic behaviour of blaming the victim for one's crime and not being able to realize that there is a cognitive dissonance right there.

Because one has to ask and discover why the Earth was quarantine in the first place and here is another viewpoint on that story:



The Sector containing Sol, Earth, the Solar System, Markab, and many other civilized planetary systems is - SECTOR 9.

Historical
Sector 9 history is of importance and interest to any sentient beings living in it. It helps explain why Earth has been shut off for so many millennia and only recently has become a candidate for re-admission to the Galactic Civilizations.

In fact, Earth has passed through several stages officially since being destroyed by atomic and hydrogen nuclear bombs and made radioactive 75 million years ago.

The inches-thick layer of dust produced by the catastrophe containing radioactive decay elements is well known by Geologists who find it in preserved rock strata, but who have no explanation for it other than "intensive volcanic activity about 70 million years ago".

After the catastrophe, Earth was declared by the Galactic Confederation to be "OFF LIMITS" and a "RESTRICTED ZONE".

Over the millenia, official Galactic agencies such as the Biological Survey, the Planetary Survey, the Galactic Survey, and other Scientific and Administrative organizations have observed, tested, explored, and finally seeded the planet with new life forms. Most of these forms were transported from other planets in the Sector with similar environments. They finally survived here on Earth as a stable flora and fauna after the radioactivity levels died down to normal and mutation was not a big problem.

Although the continents "drifted" apart rather rapidly in the eons following the catastrophe and were no longer in the same relationship to each other, attempts were made to duplicate the conditions existing previously. Thus, in the southern half of Africa, which had been a wildlife park, we today find many strange and varied species such as Zebras, Giraffes, Hippos, Ibex, Elephants, etc., which obviously could not have all "evolved" there, as this extreme variety occurs nowhere else on the planet.

About a million years ago, it was deemed the correct time to put higher organism forms on Earth, so that the spiritual beings still trapped on the planet in varying degrees of shock and disorientation could find sentient bodies to occupy and begin the long, slow climb back to Civilization.

Since at the time of the catastrophe there were many representatives of other planetary races on Earth (it had been a beautiful tourist-vacation type planet with large jeweled cities supporting a population of billions), initial stocks of all body types were transported to Earth and became what we know today as the various "races of man".

After the rudiments of survival were established and group and political activity began - about 10,000 to 20,000 years ago - it become apparent that higher instruction was needed as the inhabitants were constantly dramatizing their aberrations and fears by wars, racial vendettas, and a general tendency to destroy all that had been so laboriously created to help them survive and prosper.

Dramatizing = Re-enacting, re-creating or bringing back into 3Dreality the initial trauma suffered. See this post: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?38458-Dreamtime-Healing-Using-Holographic-Kinetics&p=515508&viewfull=1#post515508 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?38458-Dreamtime-Healing-Using-Holographic-Kinetics&p=515508&viewfull=1#post515508)

The trauma suffered: total and complete obliteration! Hence, I'd like to see those arrogant and pompous ETIs do the same job we did in, comparatively, such a short time.

That's my arrogant, stupid, retarded and imbecilic point of view of 'em "superior" and enlightened beings since it seems those still need to learn a thing or two about compassion but, of course, that's an impossible task for a psychopath. Sounds like they are the space brothers to our own "illuminati" if not their puppeteers.

It seems that Alex Collier's Andromedan's mentors have a less confused idea of what happened to this blue marble of ours and why they consider us, puny humans, "genetic royalties."

On the other hand, we too have our own "sheeple" to deal with... as above.... so below and vice-versa.

apokalypse
3rd July 2012, 06:44
Humans on planet earth just bunch of kids and those advance beings from outer space are adults...

Hervé
3rd July 2012, 06:59
While I am at it, just in case someone wants to know where the "blue print" for these "come to our space crafts, you'll be safe" ascension craze was initialy implemented:




75 million years ago, Xenu ordered from his position of Supreme Ruler of the Galactic Confederation (consisting in those times of only 76 planets and 21 stars in what is today called Sector 9) a three phase plan to prevent himself from being voted out of power for attempting to create a police-state form of government.

The three phase plan was:


The slaughter of all Loyal Officers of the People.
The destruction of the main Galactic Defense Bases on every planet.
The removal of all minority and unwanted populations in the Confederation to Planet Earth (then known as Teegeeack) and their extermination there, including the entire population of Earth.

The plan was carried out with the help of criminals and renegades and a fully-controlled police state was created.

It did not last long, however. Several Loyal Officers to the people (including Elron Elray) escaped assassination and exposed the true intent of Xenu and his conspirators. Xenu and his co-conspirators in the police state had been covering their true intention by claiming that groups of revolutionists, criminals, and saboteurs had been responsible for the assassinations and destructions done in the 1st and 2nd phases.

The 3rd phase was covered up by the "scientifically backed up" insistence of police state officials that all the "crime" was because of Overpopulation and that due to the "state of emergency" existing, the government had the "right" to use martial law and police-state tactics to "relocate the populations".


Now, let me see... 9-11... terrorism... a nut case by the name of Drake clamoring some sort of clean up... Agenda 21... useless eaters... catastrophes imminent... invitation onboard of space crafts for the "chosen ones"... the "elite" to be shuttled out or deep under...

Well, that's all "re-enactment" of that long ago so-called "cleaning up' of this sector of the galaxy from its unwanted "riff-raffs" and "floatsams and jetsams" at the ready for a replay.

So there you go: "ascension" a free ticket to this most beautiful galactic paradise resort... that blue marble over there, the Galactic Acapulco or Hawaii... Kaboom! Oooopss...

I'll be really surprised if there isn't a false flag with the London olympics... a reunion of people from all over the planet... a mini galactic meeting place for a good time... sounds right for the part to me... I just hope I am wrong.

Carmody
3rd July 2012, 07:11
There are abundant choices for incarnation throughout the multiverse, but some of us choose Earth, precisely since it is such a challenge, and because humans are so different from what we are in our native form of light beings that we are intrigued, in much the same way we might like scary movies. The more time we spend here, the more intrigued we get, and so end up dropping in often, until the human experience has lost its usefulness for our development. Even then, we may continue to stop by now and then to help our soul family who might still be working through various issues.

Speaking of Great Beings, Buddha suggested that Earth was the best planet on which to incarnate, if one wanted to grow spiritually. Why? The greater the challenge, the bigger the pay-off in terms of quickened evolution. When things are groovy and galactic and all, it's easy to forget about suffering and impermanence, but just because it might be subtle, doesn't mean it isn't there. As Jerry Garcia noted, "When life looks like easy street, there is danger at your door."

In fact, it's much more difficult to advance without friction, and Earth fits the bill if you are lookin for friction. Buddha indicated that the really wise were lining up at a chance to get a human body, because only in that way could liberation truly initiate.

One of my teachers, the Zen Master Joshu Sasaki Roshi, once noted that zazen on the battle field was ten times more effective than zazen in the zendo. Why? Because on the battle field, we are much more vigorously tested, and so have more opportunity to find out what we are truly made of. The same lesson applies to incarnating as humans.

Whoever these ETI folks are, they appear to be rather ignorant of that, and so I would take their critique with a grain of salt, frankly. There are high universal beings far more advanced than the ones whose opinions have been portrayed in that text, and those are the ones who are really worth listening to, because they have abandoned their sophmoric arrogance and become the humble servants of the universe, beyond the judgmentalism of the less mature ET species who, in their own short-sightednesss, may view this little virtual reality scenario called "Earth" with such mis-placed disdain.

Yes..much to my chagrin, I tend to play the maximum stress game.

This supports my thinking that the most screwed up families and screwed up connections.... are actually the hardest working incarnates.

I was explaining this sort of thing to my mother just last night. She was thinking grading herself... I said, no, more like pass/fail, in a benign and almost non-literal way.

I said, 'Have you contemplated and learned, while alive, and tried to apply? while in ignorance, have you still done your best to be your best, and to always learn more, share more, teach more, be more?'

Yes, she said.

Well then..pass!

(as usual, this is not some universal answer, it is only a moment or snippet of a conversation, taken out of context)

dAkapacity
3rd July 2012, 10:55
Sigh... So spot on...

Though I found these ETI's to have a quite low vibrational way of thinking and judging us. They feel a bit disconnected to me.

Couldn't have said it better than you, Another Bob.
Whoever these ETI folks are, they appear to be rather ignorant of "our choice to be on this lower dimensional earth, because it's rather challenging", and so I would take their critique with a grain of salt, frankly. There are high universal beings far more advanced than the ones whose opinions have been portrayed in that text, and those are the ones who are really worth listening to, because they have abandoned their sophmoric arrogance and become the humble servants of the universe, beyond the judgmentalism of the less mature ET species who, in their own short-sightednesss, may view this little virtual reality scenario called "Earth" with such misplaced disdain.

Watching from Cyprus
3rd July 2012, 12:02
Thank you very much for pouring out the truth ... a smack in all our faces.. well i enjoy it quit a bit ;-) We all have a long way to go and i am still annoyed with robot faces.

Tony
3rd July 2012, 12:07
We smell awful too.

Billy
3rd July 2012, 12:36
The old saying " It takes one to know one " comes to mind :loco: :heh:

I agree with much of the OP

but if i was the on the other side of the fence and one of the ETi's i would also be saying. " What you give out, comes back "


peace

9eagle9
3rd July 2012, 12:45
Alienated from one's self , all of us, is better word than retardation. And while there is much that was imposed on us we are certainly accumulating enough no how to begin to abate our situations. Refusal to do so with resources at hand would qualify as retarded.

We may smell bad , and even stink on some levels of our psyche, but its not like 'proper hygiene' is a new concept.

One can clean their mind as much as their body.

I notice its not a popular concept though

Arpheus
3rd July 2012, 13:17
While that article has a lot lof truths in it and is a good laugh due to that imo,because by being aware and awake one can relate and understand the OP point of view,i must also say that Bob is right,the thing is if we were truly created with the single purpose of being genetic farms and nothing else and on top of that being manipulated lied to and so many others things in between,its kind hard to say that we ever had a shot and or chance at changing the result of the game to begin aint it?That would be a very hard thing to do,also on that note,it does make you wonder if there is some sort of god out there that gives a crap about this little blue planet and its dwellers since this has been happening for thousand of years and yet there has been no karmic consequences whatsoever to these Ets that have been toying with us since the time of our inception by them,because at some point the karmic effect of their actions has to catch up to them,at least thats what i am hoping?Maybe then we will get a real and fair shot at changing the current scenario,but who knows really?

another bob
3rd July 2012, 15:17
I was explaining this sort of thing to my mother just last night. She was thinking grading herself... I said, no, more like pass/fail, in a benign and almost non-literal way.

I said, 'Have you contemplated and learned, while alive, and tried to apply? while in ignorance, have you still done your best to be your best, and to always learn more, share more, teach more, be more?'

Yes, she said.

Well then..pass!


Beautiful!

Sometimes we tend to think it's all so complicated, but it really is as simple as that -- just earnestly doing our best.

Blessings!

WhiteFeather
3rd July 2012, 15:39
I am not human. I have been genetically modified by a much more advanced race dating back eons ago for some purposes i do not yet know. Maybe to mine gold perhaps....Whatever.....


Having between 12-22 different types of Alien DNA in my biological system with 23 pairs of Chromosomes compared to the Ape that has 24 pairs of Chromosomes.

Yes Im considered royalty in the universe and i really hate to brag.

By the way.......... Darwin was an idiot. I guess im not included on this thread anyways. NaNoo NaNoo!

Prodigal Son
3rd July 2012, 16:58
What does retarded mean, anyway? It means to be limited. Well, just about every spiritual book or channeling that I have read says that we are functioning at an average of 3 percent consciousness. That to me explains why 95 percent of our DNA appears to be a scrambled mess. (I believe it actually is not, but to us it is.) That DNA also appears to have been 12 strands at one time but reduced to two. Our bodies are like antennas to the cosmos, the chakras, the endocrine system, that have been switched off somewhere along the line. Our brains were disconnected between right and left.

So to me, there are no revelations here as of yet (I have not finished reading it)... and "retarded" is just a less subtle way of describing our condition.

I'm still a believer that we're moving into a new energy field that will help us immensely, if not cure us of this mostly dead condition that we're in. DNA is reprogrammed from the galactic center. The evolution towards God is a foregone conclusion that the Creator has programmed into the whole system. He (or she) put us here out of the desire to have peers to share unconditional love, out of loneliness. Because the natural by-product of such a system is free will, there are those who will choose selfishness and those who will choose selflessness. The lesson that must be learned is that Love is the catalyst for evolution.

It seems these negative entities provide the necessary resistance to help us evolve. And yes, I truly do believe that we were chomping at the bit to get an opportunity to incarnate here because of the immense challenges.

Earth may be a hell hole, but any light being worth his weight in nothingness would rather be no place else. :cool:

Maia Gabrial
3rd July 2012, 17:01
Vivek, Vivek, Vivek.....

Which ET's has this guy been talking to? The criminal ones that have infested our planet? The same ones who are behind everything being done to the planet and all her lifeforms? The same ones who use TECHNOLOGIES to mind rape humanity? Not to mention actually raping them.... And then has he considered that mind controlled victims can't fight the technologies that MAKE them do many things like destroying the food, air and water? Maybe he was referring to the traitor-collaborators who think they'll be rewarded for their part in all of this destruction soon to come....? They're the insane ones....

I don't share this guy's ideas about what ET thinks about us. It sounds to me like YOU think this is true, too.
What I'm picking up from all of this is that we, Earth humans deserve our victimization. It's sad and pathetic because so many people willing accept blame and responsibilities for things these criminal aliens commanded. These aliens couldn't succeed in this without their unfair use of technologies against us! Or using their so called superior intelligence on us. (In this case, I use "us" because I've been victimized in all of this, too. But that's as far as I'll take it....) I'm pointing the finger of responsibility at the criminal aliens. Isn't it true that the one who orders a killing is just as guilty as the one who pulls the triggers? This is the same thing. They're guilty up to the tops of their oversized craniums...!

This whole thing sounds like criminal alien propaganda to me. "Blame the victims"....

I find it hard to believe that ET's would regard us in these ways, knowing the huge disadvantages we've been up against for thousands of years. They know what these enemies have done to us....are doing to us.... That's more believable than these critizisms of us.....



Let's hope that all of this will be behind us soon....!

Unified Serenity
3rd July 2012, 17:06
I still say they are jealous and we have ta tas......... I refuse to ascend without em. This thread is really good for laughing, thanks Vivek.

the_vast_mystery
3rd July 2012, 18:40
I still say they are jealous and we have ta tas......... I refuse to ascend without em. This thread is really good for laughing, thanks Vivek.

I do believe they called us "Sex crazed" so you may just have nailed it! *drumroll* ;p

SKAWF
3rd July 2012, 18:59
what i dont get is, why is this news only breaking now?

and as whitecrow said earlier

we are so heavily influenced from birth,
AND
its not like we were shown any other way

i dont think anyone can be held liable for not knowing something.
(which is not the same as knowing, but choosing to ignore btw)

really, the question should be asked

'if humans were not manipulated from birth..
and the structure we live in did not exist
and we were actually given some of this universal knowledge''

would we still act in the manner that we do?

even though i agree with most of the OP

it does seem that ETI's have the advantage over us, in terms of knowledge and being
and choose to judge us in a negative way for not being equal to them.

how enlightened is that?

oh but lets not interfere.
we'll do nothing and just hope that these f***ers never get a hold of a spaceship.

if you see me struggling, and you are in a position to help...
but choose not to,
and then judge me for being in the position i'm in,

you had best stay away from me.

if the situation were reversed, i would offer you a hand.
and thats the difference between me and you.

erm..... mini rant over.

Ron Mauer Sr
3rd July 2012, 19:13
It might be appropriate to remind ourselves that we are the brave ones, system busters, adventurers who volunteered to forget who we are and enter this fear based dysfunctional 3D experience on planet Earth. Please refer to the Cosmic Instruction Manual that most have not yet read.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ut3Jn-cANMk

the_vast_mystery
3rd July 2012, 19:29
It might be appropriate to remind ourselves that we are the brave ones, system busters, adventurers who volunteered to forget who we are and enter this fear based dysfunctional 3D experience on planet Earth. Please refer to the Cosmic Instruction Manual that most have not yet read.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ut3Jn-cANMk

You know I've got to thank you, I finally know what has been so unsettling me about these messages. They completely lack any display of a deep understanding of human emotions (as experienced first hand by a human who does not remember anything other than being human.) They treat feelings as if they're inconvenient obstacles to be immediately wished away to display a sort of cold, calculated "mass compassion" that seems to entirely abrogate the concept of individual free will. The desires, experiences, or situations of the individual are immediately judged as irrelevant towards some sort of dogmatic obedience to "The Mission" and no information is provided beyond the barest minimum necessary for a motivational "Pep Talk" to get people back on the reservation. It just smacks of a sense of superior disdain or disrespect, not that such a disrespect or disdain even needs to be consciously intended by such beings. Rather, that because of a seeming lack of acknowledgement for anything valid in the human experience (treating it all as a disease that must be immediately washed off on "awakening" with no exceptions or questions allowed) these forces show that the only thing they primarily care for is the accomplishment of a goal that's so wrapped up in nebulous propaganda releases that none of us really knows what we'd be doing if we even tried to accomplish it.

This is why I've always held in high suspicion any starseed that lacks firm technical knowledge of what it is they are doing and how they are affecting the physical world. It seems like they don't even know themselves and rather are just regurgitating whatever line their superior's drilled into them in a pre-incarnative boot camp. It just smells too much like a very bad covert operation to usurp control of the planet; I really am starting to agree more and more with Marshall Summers (http://www.alliesofhumanity.org/Allies/The_Allies_of_Humanity__Revealing_the_Extraterrestrial_Intervention_and_Teaching_Humanity_about_Life _in_the_Universe.html) the more I look back at a lot of this channeled ET/starseed material. It sounds nice on the surface, but once we look past what we merely want to believe to keep emotional balance and look towards what we can reasonably conclude...it just all smells rather funny.

Ki's
3rd July 2012, 21:36
Pretty judgmental for a self-proclaimed advanced species.
My initial emotional response was the ever present, completely predictable, and obviously programed...guilt.
And there was the give-away...

Sounds like the elites propaganda and agenda given weight by the alleged testimony of experts.. (In this case, advanced ET's)

The only thing lacking was the disdainful sniff, the murmured tsk tsk and maybe some white gloves.

If that was a message from ET's...well, here's an update on the human condition: If I saw you on the side of the road, injured and alone...I wouldn't drive by and sneer at your apparent lack of navigational skills.
I'd stop to help.

WhiteFeather
3rd July 2012, 21:59
It might be appropriate to remind ourselves that we are the brave ones, system busters, adventurers who volunteered to forget who we are and enter this fear based dysfunctional 3D experience on planet Earth. Please refer to the Cosmic Instruction Manual that most have not yet read.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ut3Jn-cANMk

My Gratitude goes out to you for this video.

Beautiful.

We are the ones we have been waiting.

For many, the veil is being lifted and the programming thats been stuffed down our throats for eons BTPTW is coming to an end.

We The Awakened Ones

: )

Praxis
3rd July 2012, 22:15
If this is the case then the Powers who are losing control are actually in the right for what they have done to humanity.
Maybe we should be killing as many people as possible!

Whose hand has been rocking the cradle to make humanity stupid.

No enlightened species could judge us based off what they see now, or even by looking at our past because it has always been under the control of a few select people. Once we liberate ourselves from the tyranny, then start keeping score. But this will not be for several generations in order to undue the intentional ignorance that has been given to us.

mahalall
3rd July 2012, 22:44
WARNING, this thread contains ET colonial rhetoric pollution!

Those who play in the Rainbow-smile and hug those suffering ET's who judge from the Light.

HORIZONS
3rd July 2012, 22:56
The OP sounds like something Mr. Smith would write.

the_vast_mystery
3rd July 2012, 23:03
t9JFz-V-CVk ;p

HORIZONS
3rd July 2012, 23:40
t9JFz-V-CVk ;p

TWO THUMBS WAY UP!!! :thumb: :thumb:

9eagle9
3rd July 2012, 23:59
Maybe that's where women carry there karmic burden at ....:p

Not ascending without them?

I can't ascend with them.




I still say they are jealous and we have ta tas......... I refuse to ascend without em. This thread is really good for laughing, thanks Vivek.

I do believe they called us "Sex crazed" so you may just have nailed it! *drumroll* ;p

foreverfan
4th July 2012, 06:06
http://i410.photobucket.com/albums/pp187/greenstamps/funny-pictures-this-cat-just-ate-a-.jpg

ngogly
4th July 2012, 07:37
Now, for anyone capable of learning, here is a breakdown of five (5) critical zones of evaluation of humanity on the part of ETI (Extraterrestrial Intelligence) in general, though emphasis changes somewhat from one ET race to the next, though all races (and they are uncountable zillions in the Universe) will tend to more or less agree with this general assessment.

Firstly, not everyone learns, some also think and form an opinion.

Secondly, when we are so inferior, insignificant, stupid, ignorant, unworthy and “bad” - so we are also celebrities of universe, because all those zillions watch us, care to learn about and have opinion on us.

But one thing remains unclear to me, who did the poll in universe to find out that all of THEM hate us? Don't they have nothing meaningful to do but live in constant hatred towards one subspecies on some distant planet?

Thirdly, to all ETI's have tendency to compile ranking charts of retards in universe and if it's true, what does it tell about them?

No need to read further, pure crap written in mentally pushing way :)


Breaking News - You Are a Retarded Imbecile

If THEY (zillions of superior and worthy beings) told it to you, were they clear about addressee?

muxfolder
8th July 2012, 10:18
So they think they're better than us? Isn't that egoism as well?