Spiritual False Flag

[Tenzin]

My intuition points to a premonition that many individuals who are waking up will be trapped by a spiritual false flag that will be under way soon, shepherding the half awake masses into a collective of another extreme of duality, promoting attachment to what is good.

There is such a fine line there, for all conscious happiness contains within it the seed of future unhappiness; a cycle of constant change.

The point being that it is too easy to miss this particular portion of the deception, especially when everyone is being caught up by what clearly needs fixing now and thinking that we are going to experience a world revolution or experience a galactic reboot.

What are your thoughts on this?

[Tony]

I totally, whole heartedly, positively agree!

[goinghome2012]

the goal is to love and be love, love yourself so you can love others and care for other unconditionally, that is it. no need to do anything, just love

unfortunately there will be a reboot, which will be brought in by our sun, the cosmic Father, or the Christ, Christians call him Jesus.

solar flare will engulf Mother Earth and birth a new reality, saying goodbye to 3D, if your heart is open to the cosmic Father and one with the Cosmic universe you will pass through into higher realities if not you will be recycled and reincarnation is your journey to other experiences on other planets.

The Harvest is upon us.

peace and love

[Tony]

It's easy to talk the talk, but there is a coldness about it.
We can easily become tinkling bells.....!




Tony

[Kelly]

The spiritual false flag has actually been ongoing for some time now in my opinion!
So many people, so caught up in the deception of fake spirituallity, and believing it too, its very sad:(

[Finefeather]

My intuition points to a premonition that many individuals who are waking up will be trapped by a spiritual false flag that will be under way soon, shepherding the half awake masses into a collective of another extreme of duality, promoting attachment to what is good.

There is such a fine line there, for all conscious happiness contains within it the seed of future unhappiness; a cycle of constant change.

The point being that it is too easy to miss this particular portion of the deception, especially when everyone is being caught up by what clearly needs fixing now and thinking that we are going to experience a world revolution or experience a galactic reboot.

What are your thoughts on this?

I also agree most definitely with this.
This is an extremely important message to try to get across to people.
I see 100s getting trapped in the false belief that sometime soon in 2012 the earth and all will be experiencing a physical dimensional shift and so we can all just sit back and relax and enjoy the ride and all will be well.

[9eagle9]

They already are with the Wilcocks, Fulford, Drake Debacles, the anticipation of a false flag even at the Olympics when the actual ritualistic event is the Olympics themselves. 9/11 was a spiritual false flag event with everyone running about trying to figure out how those events really came to pass instead of knowing what the event was actually for--to induce collective psychic trauma so that even more time controlled mechanisms could be initiated.

[Peace of Mind]

You may be right. However, if you lead with your heart… one will find true enlightenment and a life followed by prosperity and happiness. If these attributes are not obtained through your spiritual awakening… you are probably being misled. Life is easy; people are the only ones making it difficult. There are way too many disempowered souls/spirits in the world. Life is an educational journey; we are always equipped with the right tools to succeed. But, when you come across unnecessary obstacles that seem to be a Hugh detriment to you…you are being manipulated and worse of all…allowing it to happen.

Peace

[9eagle9]

As long as one acknowledges that one has an individual pursuit and get out of the expectation that some sort of collective enlightenment is going to occur. Spiritual false flag events are designed for a collective level. It does little to dampen one individuals psyche with trauma. Conversely one individual can transcend commonly perceived reality, without the rest of the common herd having to participate.

One does not need the rest of the sheep to create their a desired reality such as you have described. If one wants this to occur on the collective level the other sheep have to be educated as what is occurring and we know that we can't do that.

That's herd mentality.

[noxon medem]

..
- so to (do)
oppose division, or not, or something inbetween

would you oppose the division of a cell forming a
human being , or any being ?

(this is not a paradox)

A (to common knowledge) fact :
Cells need to divide , to form a new being .

:- )

[noxon medem]

Possible points of view.

There are some "false flags"
and then, there are some not.

Will read the whole thread soon.
Thanks.

For now, a totaly unrelated image :

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and one more :

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( instinct and intellect )

Combined, in us ..

- Be a well .

( intuition ?)

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nm

[the_vast_mystery]

Even then there are things that can be achieved and there are things that cannot. One thing that I feel most "New Age" material lacks is the sobering realizations that this world we live in is limited and sometimes, no, you just cannot have anything you want if you want to grow. Saying "Follow your dreams" or "make a wish" is nice sounding rubbish that of course expects its audience only has very small and feeble ambitions. It completely falls apart once you put that sort of motto to this current world and you ask yourself. "What would happen if everyone blindly followed their own ambitions?" We'd have a pretty poor society (since no one would work together except in rare instances where goals coalesced together.) As well it does not account for the many millions of people who, deep down, maybe really do want things that are entirely unrealistic. What if I wanted super powers? Who's going to come give them to me? ;p

Or in a more realistic way: What if I wanted a McMansion and a DeLorean? (Which despite being old is still very expensive.) It's not like if I pray to someone they'll fall out of the sky and into my lap, neither will following any Buddha or spiritual course cause these things to be whisked into my reach. In fact to even get those things in this world I'd need to go against most spiritual teachings to become an utter predator of commerce. Then, maybe if I worked my ass off I might have those things by the end of my life. But I digress, most spiritual material I've read says that first off the goal isn't to get you any of those things but to mature you as a person so that you can achieve the (seemingly impossible task) of remaining happy/centered despite any external conditions, and while somehow being entirely sober-minded about the world and your own limitations. That seems like quite the feat to me, and something suggests that if we're wishing for abundance we're doing it wrong. (It's easy to be happy when things are going our way, but quite hard when we're faced with the reality that the world is much bigger than us, doesn't really much give a damn about us or anything we want and that our own survival is up to us.)

Of course, coming upon this realization I had to admit to myself that you know? Maybe I don't care so much about enlightenment but just in finding some suitable way to feel confident and secure in my person. I'm not ready to give up the world or give up on certain things I want and I know that's the path I'd have to take if I was serious about enlightenment. (since the goal is to never want or expect anything just be happy for what happens, whatever that is.) The constant need to ask for things externally shows we are not really equipped for independent survival, and that's probably the most important trait to have especially if one wanted to consider themselves a spiritual worker. Being able to operate as the sole source of all you need.

[kreagle]

My intuition points to a premonition that many individuals who are waking up will be trapped by a spiritual false flag that will be under way soon, shepherding the half awake masses into a collective of another extreme of duality, promoting attachment to what is good.

There is such a fine line there, for all conscious happiness contains within it the seed of future unhappiness; a cycle of constant change.

The point being that it is too easy to miss this particular portion of the deception, especially when everyone is being caught up by what clearly needs fixing now and thinking that we are going to experience a world revolution or experience a galactic reboot.

What are your thoughts on this?

Tenzin,

"Awareness" is the key, my friend. Too many are "unaware" that God has provided for this by offering His indwelling Spirit to those who wish to have the "ultimate Guide"!

To "turn down" this offer, from Him, will put the individual in a position to be easily deceived. Acceptance of this Heavenly offer, will put you in a very "special category" of being "chosen",.....or......one of the "very elect"!


Matthew 24:23-25
King James Version (KJV)

23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.

24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

25 Behold, I have told you before.


Be sure to know that your "intuition" is correct! It's true that "deception" has been amongst us for a long time,......but we haven't seen nothing like we will in the very near future. That's what the passage of Scripture is alluding to here,........"shall shew great signs and wonders;".

Seek wisdom, my friend, and "properly equip" yourself accordingly!


Love and Peace,........kreagle

[haibane]

This:

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(Note: It's an Italian cartoon broadcast in the 80's in Czech TV, hence the Czech title and credits, but there is NO DIALOGUE)

(^__^ )

[noxon medem]

Even then there are things that can be achieved and there are things that cannot. One thing that I feel most "New Age" material lacks is the sobering realizations that this world we live in is limited and sometimes, no, you just cannot have anything you want if you want to grow. Saying "Follow your dreams" or "make a wish" is nice sounding rubbish that of course expects its audience only has very small and feeble ambitions. It completely falls apart once you put that sort of motto to this current world and you ask yourself. "What would happen if everyone blindly followed their own ambitions?" We'd have a pretty poor society (since no one would work together except in rare instances where goals coalesced together.) As well it does not account for the many millions of people who, deep down, maybe really do want things that are entirely unrealistic. What if I wanted super powers? Who's going to come give them to me? ;p

Or in a more realistic way: What if I wanted a McMansion and a DeLorean? (Which despite being old is still very expensive.) It's not like if I pray to someone they'll fall out of the sky and into my lap, neither will following any Buddha or spiritual course cause these things to be whisked into my reach. In fact to even get those things in this world I'd need to go against most spiritual teachings to become an utter predator of commerce. Then, maybe if I worked my ass off I might have those things by the end of my life. But I digress, most spiritual material I've read says that first off the goal isn't to get you any of those things but to mature you as a person so that you can achieve the (seemingly impossible task) of remaining happy/centered despite any external conditions, and while somehow being entirely sober-minded about the world and your own limitations. That seems like quite the feat to me, and something suggests that if we're wishing for abundance we're doing it wrong. (It's easy to be happy when things are going our way, but quite hard when we're faced with the reality that the world is much bigger than us, doesn't really much give a damn about us or anything we want and that our own survival is up to us.)

Of course, coming upon this realization I had to admit to myself that you know? Maybe I don't care so much about enlightenment but just in finding some suitable way to feel confident and secure in my person. I'm not ready to give up the world or give up on certain things I want and I know that's the path I'd have to take if I was serious about enlightenment. (since the goal is to never want or expect anything just be happy for what happens, whatever that is.) The constant need to ask for things externally shows we are not really equipped for independent survival, and that's probably the most important trait to have especially if one wanted to consider themselves a spiritual worker. Being able to operate as the sole source of all you need.

- thank you for the inspiration , mystery ...

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- made me wanne share
a true story from my own life :

When I was 17 and a half, I bought a Yamaha XJ 650 for
money earned on summerjobs , crafts, gardening, many .....

I kept it in my fathers garage, he said no to me keeping it
in the house basement, where I lived at the time ...

I "refurbished" ( in lack of a better word ..). the bike in the winter,
servicing and coting it, from nut to spanner, and all the workings
and layers of the construction was overlooked, and something improved .

I took the license to drive it at spring, and ventured all summer ..

For one and a half years it was an integrate part of my life.
Then I sold it, for the comforts of a car, in the nordic winters .
( and because I needed a car for my work, at the time )

Many years later I sat with a friend and discussed motorcycles,
and our passions thereof .
I mentioned my first bike, the window was open, and there was
a newspaper on the table. A local one .
For fun I opened it on the classifieds, the adds of stuff for sale,
on " motorbikes" " and found one exactly like my first XJ 650 (1981-2)
Pure coinsidence, surely. I called them up and checked the numberplate.
No surprise, non ?
It was my old bike. (true story)
The same one I bought and sold bach then ....

These images are factory made :

17320

17319

I did buy it again.
Had one more fabulous summer with it.
And sold it for what I gave, again ,
no sorrow. All well .
(or was it wheel ?)

- So,

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[Tenzin]

I believe this will be a false flag like no other, a turning point for humanity, but will take decades to see things settle down as the new deception takes form, shifting towards the other side of duality. On the brighter side, at least we can see balance for a brief moment as people break away from the system of control, taking a well deserved rest from the negativity we have been with for too long.

Many borrowed from others on the subject of awakening, claiming to have had the insights but were eager to teach to others what they had never experienced themselves. The ego is so easy to fool... into further attachments.

I like what Lao Tzu said ages ago:

http://utpal.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/Lao-tzu-quote-uv.jpg

[christian]

I think it's obvious that (December 21st of) 2012 is prone to be the date of some kind of false flag, or multiple ones in all areas, what-have-you.

As people are becoming more aware of 'otherworldly' stuff, their susceptibility for events of that nature grows, as they are longing for something of that kind happening.

Everything will become more intense before it will become somewhat smooth in one way or another. Time to really hold the pole and practice discernment :cool:

---

Now I hope your premonition helps to make people aware of that possibility, so that we can change the probable outcome in a positive way :)

[music]

We are already being surrounded and bombarded by frequency based fear algorithms, and the most susceptible are those with burgeoning but incomplete spiritual awareness, who live in large population centres. Watching television, mainstream films, etc increases the risk. The interference often manifests as sheets of honeycomb-like grids that appear within the mind's eye during meditation or quiet times. They dissipate when they are showered with love. Love is our answer to all threats, whether real or imagined, in fact, love is our answer to all.

Yes, we are in the build up to a spiritual false flag, and it sorrows me to say that the Dalai Lama may be used to this end somehow. The point to that observation is that we can only trust ourselves - our own inner knowing. The time for trusting external leaders or gurus is long behind us.


..
- so to (do)
oppose division, or not, or something inbetween

would you oppose the division of a cell forming a
human being , or any being ?

(this is not a paradox)

A (to common knowledge) fact :
Cells need to divide , to form a new being .

:- )

To divide, to not divide, all is the same.

We are at the same time: a being who has no awareness of each individual cell; a being who has a personal and trancendental relationship with every cell of their body; and a being who IS every cell in their body. We are all this for everything and everyone that exists, we walk the spectrum from complete ignorance to complete understanding. We are nothing and we are all. Love is the (super) string that threads the beads of matter through the lower and higher dimensions, and to beyond where discussions of matter and being become irrelevant and non-sensical.

[Tenzin]

Oh oh, music, you touched on a sensitive topic there, regarding Dalai Lama, hehe... Many intelligent and well meaning people are not willing to dig deep enough, for doing so seems to challenge the teachings of love and compassion, which is nonetheless good to pursue, especially as a sentient being who wish no harm upon others.

I believe it is those who dare to say "I don't know," who stand the greatest chance in finding the real truth of all things, even that of enlightenment. And when the truth is known, being right or wrong does not really matter anymore.

[Spiral]

The subject & reactions reminds me of Eric Hoffer's "The True Believer" (a small cheap paper back) in which he sets forth a series of discourses on why mankind is wired up in such a way as to need belief....

We have all been given over to expect a certain set of qualities to expect in a given type of person, Hollywood has seen to that, what with the technology available now, EMF mind control & Blue Beam, as people get ever more desperate it will become easier to give people what they think they want...

Its not that there aren't benevolent ETs/EDs but its seems clear that pseudo spiritual "ET" cults are hoovering up the half awake by the score, its so much easier "to believe" that to strive for the liberation of consciousness.

Where this is all going I don't know, but we have to be very vigilant.

[Tarka the Duck]

The spiritual false flag has actually been ongoing for some time now in my opinion!
So many people, so caught up in the deception of fake spirituallity, and believing it too, its very sad:(

Couldn't have put it better myself, Kelly! It's here now, and has been for some decades: a watered down, feelgood pre-digested spirituality that doesn't challenge us, but merely pats us on the head and reassures us we are God and we don't have to do a single thing.

Kathie

[Arrowwind]

Ever notice that awakened people have the ability to spur on the awakening of others? It's the hundredth monkey event and it is in progress.






I like what Lao Tzu said ages ago:

http://utpal.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/Lao-tzu-quote-uv.jpg

[Kelly]

This, is what i believe is happening on one level.
We all at some level, are aware that something is happening, so instead of people finding their own version of spirituality which fits themselves, most people like to fit in, as we know.
No-one really likes to be different, but, that is what is amazing about us, we all are!
We all have our own unique ways, a one size fits all spirituality does not make sense to me.
So many people, so many ways, not a herd or hive mind, spirituality is as unique as the person who practices their version of it.
At one time, i used to be like this, a long long time ago, i hope i have grown and learned since.

http://youtu.be/fQI8pZJiMe0

[Maria Stade]

My intuition points to a premonition that many individuals who are waking up will be trapped by a spiritual false flag that will be under way soon, shepherding the half awake masses into a collective of another extreme of duality, promoting attachment to what is good.

There is such a fine line there, for all conscious happiness contains within it the seed of future unhappiness; a cycle of constant change.

The point being that it is too easy to miss this particular portion of the deception, especially when everyone is being caught up by what clearly needs fixing now and thinking that we are going to experience a world revolution or experience a galactic reboot.

What are your thoughts on this?

Yes many will be misslead by thinking that you are a spiritual being if you only feel love and want only good things, and have only blizzful experiences
The love and light people.. and that is fine some seems to have a need for taking that road and they do.
Eventually they will in their own time see trough the illussion, as we need to pic up the whole spectra of our selves, even all the things that we rather didnt see.

But love and light is safe and feels good .. dosent it :love:

They look away from truth as it makes them uncomfortable.. but it will cath up with them to so ... in their own time.

We have another ongoing "make all good" and that is the green movment leading people to think that by doing as they are told they will save the world together. Im talking about the peakoil/ global warming / transsition movment, that is sucking in people almost like a new sect.. LOL . yea I am in it to just to lokaly inform them about the facts.. and it is a good thing to meet others. And do join if you have a groop in your surrondings, because othewise they can feed them with what ever they whant.

Are there a big change going on, a hundred monkey effect ? Yes it is happening and a forum like this, is a great place to investigate about different subjects.. so write well friends help them see the trees in the forrest.

With expanded awereness about what is happening all is changing allways.

The tribe of many collors is allready here.

All is well

[Nanoo Nanoo]

Know thy self

Falce flag gone :-)

N
N

[music]

Hi Spiral, is it that we are wired in a certain way so we need a belief, or is it that we all sense that we are so much more than that which we perceive superficially?

Hi Tenzin, the search for truth often brings us sorrow, but that sorrow is only the sadness of the ego and the residue of attachment. If I was perfectly aligned with the higher heart, I would be free of attachment and would know only joy.