What is the Saturn Machine?

[truth4me]

Can someone enlighten me on something called the "Saturn Machine"?. I heard it was a machine on Saturn that helped control Earth's population with mind control or something to that effect. I googled it but nothing really caught my eye with that search......

[Bo Atkinson]

OUR UNIVERSAL JOURNEY says a lot about Saturn and it's super-star-being. Human lore of TPTB hierarchy is fairly complicated already. Perhaps that is why George simply alludes to cultural, organizational figures in general terms. One has to read his description, not my initial and provisional interpretation of it.
George Kavassilas ISBN: 978-0-9872615-1-9
www.ourjourneyhome.com.au

There are some video interviews on line, which give a lot of his basis for his amazing assertions about everything. The book was probably the most in depth, from cosmic history to contemporary situation, of Saturn, according to Kavassilas.


I was going to compare his info with James Horak, who also lectured a little on Saturn's tech and place in our solar system. While there seems to be some degree of contrasts between these two commentators. Horak's contrasts may not be hierarchical or directly opposed-technically to what Kavassilas wrote. But Kavassilis lays out a huge, implicative assertion, concerning humanity's "Problem-Reaction-Solution" dilemmas, throughout history (and emanating from Saturn specifically).

Between these two sources, there is a lot to consider about Saturn.

[noprophet]

While I don't entirely understand how the cube symbolism has the breadth it does... it is massive. Sega Saturn, Game Cube, Transformers, Avengers, the cross, merkaba, alf comics, the game portal, zelda's goddess cubes (binah/staurn is the female portion of the trinity), I could go on and on...

Saturn has a moon named Pandora... Maybe the Saturn hexagon is the box.

http://i50.tinypic.com/20fah5j.jpg

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Man, I think this cube thing is so far abstract form what we think... I don't know, I tend to not bring it up on Avalon for a reason. Abstract and clearly pervasive.

The brazilian physicist wrote the papers detailing (forgot the specifics but I'm sure someone knows, I have them on my phone I think) the possibility of HAARP being used for localized time manipulation. This saturn stuff is the keystone.

// Oh and if you believe that humans create there own reality, as I know many do, and you believe that the "controllers" are trying to utilize this to their advantage -- children's cartoons. Especially through the 90s.

[Cartomancer]

The pole of Saturn has a giant hexagon from the vortex in the clouds below. Metatrons cube is a hexagon. This is the basis for Chronos, Saturnalia, and its associated religion. The cube or hexagon may also represent the goddess. Some theorize that Saturn was once closer to earth and the giant hexagon could be seen. It is ironic that the hexagon is associated with Saturnalia and the planet itself has a giant hexagon on it.

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[penn]

While I don't entirely understand how the cube symbolism has the breadth it does... it is massive. Sega Saturn, Game Cube, Transformers, Avengers, the cross, merkaba, alf comics, the game portal, zelda's goddess cubes (binah/staurn is the female portion of the trinity), I could go on and on...

Saturn has a moon named Pandora... Maybe the Saturn hexagon is the box.

http://i50.tinypic.com/20fah5j.jpg

9Tnefb88vX4

Man, I think this cube thing is so far abstract form what we think... I don't know, I tend to not bring it up on Avalon for a reason. Abstract and clearly pervasive.

The brazilian physicist wrote the papers detailing (forgot the specifics but I'm sure someone knows, I have them on my phone I think) the possibility of HAARP being used for localized time manipulation. This saturn stuff is the keystone.

// Oh and if you believe that humans create there own reality, as I know many do, and you believe that the "controllers" are trying to utilize this to their advantage -- children's cartoons. Especially through the 90s.

Please share a bit more if you will. This so out of my realm I can not join all the cartoons and children toys to a cohesive theory. I read George's book and watched the interview Carry did regarding the ring makers of Saturn.

I just can not pick up a theme although I sense one.

[noprophet]

Please share a bit more if you will. This so out of my realm I can not join all the cartoons and children toys to a cohesive theory. I read George's book and watched the interview Carry did regarding the ring makers of Saturn.

I just can not pick up a theme although I sense one.

I'll definitely be putting together some kind of presentation together about this for Avalon when I feel that I have some kind of grasp of whats going on. We're in similar positions right now where it really feels like something important is hiding in all the saturn/time/cube symbolism but I'm not yet sure what it is. It's become more and more clear to me that it is literally being shoved right in our face all the time and I could babble off about the time symbolism and the 6 sided hexagon/cube + ringmakers of saturn and the ridiculous plethora of saturnian symbolism reflected in all of these religions as well as the grand possibility that the reason our solar system seems to be so active actually has to do with maintenance of our time-space matrix and a constant press for control of it by several different parties... but it would just be speculative babble.

When I get my hands on something solid you can be sure it'll be posted up here first.

[Bo Atkinson]

Kavassilas goes on to explain how the human chakra system is totally manipulated matrix style, though PineGap and Saturn.


OUR UNIVERSAL JOURNEY
George Kavassilas:

Each one of the seven main chakras is connected to a ring of the planet Saturn. There has been an age old battle for control of this Solar System between our Sun and Saturn. The consciousness and spirit of the planet Saturn is insanely jealous of who the Sun and the Earth are and what they are creating here. It is Saturn who sees himself to be “The Exalted One”.
So who is the consciousness and spirit of the planet Saturn? It is an aspect of the god who is claiming to be the creator and ruler of all life on all levels of all that is and all that exists. It is the god of religions. ...................... Some call him Jehovah or Yahweh and other cultures call him Shiva, Allah and Cronus. Saturday is Saturn’s day that has traditionally been a day of worship throughout the ages. There are many religions today .................
Please understand that this is all part of the greater Divine Plan. The entire Universe is represented here in this solar system.................
He embodies the archetype of the authoritarian, the dominant father and the task master. .............
He is the master of the passive aggressive programs. He is.............. and is therefore the creator and keeper of the Matrix
.......... this cosmic entity as Saturn has wanted nothing more than to take control of this Solar system and specifically our Earth Mother and her Humanity.

www.ourjourneyhome.com.au

[Mluck]

I have a pdf version of the book but not sure if I am allowed to post it or not but I had a hard time finding any copy of this book anywhere. The Ring Makers of Saturn book I was referring to.

[ThePythonicCow]

I have a pdf version of the book but not sure if I am allowed to post it or not but I had a hard time finding any copy of this book anywhere. The Ring Makers of Saturn book I was referring to.

So far as the forum is concerned, such uploading is ok. The forum has a size limit on uploads, but I'm guessing that this pdf would fit within the size. Worth a try I suppose.

[Magnus]

Here's the precious file.
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[Nanoo Nanoo]

Here's the precious file.
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OOOOH ! i have been looking for that book ! Thank you thank you thank you !

This is great info on Saturn.

He states , not hypothesises mind you , that saturns rings have been manufactured if i remember correctly. In his book he has phots un doctored of great vehicles seeing to the maintenance of the rings. The planet rom what I know is IMO the planet of Law. The rings serve as an amplifier of intent from whatever generates it inside the planet. The inhabitnats of Saturnia must be such amazing beings ... it really blows my mind to even contemplate the astounding technology and science that exists there.

As for it being a control mech for us down here , i cannot without any evidence conclude this but i can postulate that our universe would need some sort of regulation device to eminate a stabilising energy to keep things from getting out of hand. Any faction of this cosmos could have accidents or explosions that does cause havock out there in space.

the stabilising effect of the rings may be similar to the rings in the opera house.. they vibrate symbiotically with frequencies they wish to phase cancel. the rings are made to vibrate at the same frequency symbiotically .. so this would be a smalle rmodel perhaps.

who knows for sure ? some do

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[Kano]

The Saturn machine is in part a giant gyroscope which has the ability to manipulate time, space, and gravity (which are all parts the of the same process). Saturn is also a natural stargate which is why there are so many human military outposts (as well as other races) on many of Saturn's 60+ moons. A strong case can be made that much of the Jewish faith is about Saturn worship, or as it is otherwise known, the "dark star". This has to do with why judges wear black, police wear black, and why we wear black at graduations. It's very deep. Look into it.

Noprophet knows a lot about Saturn and I myself have studied Saturn and its effects on Earth. Ever notice how much symbolism there is for Saturn in our daily lives? Skype symbol? Direct TV symbol? They are telling us where these transmissions are coming from. Also, the cube is very much linked to Saturn. Look into it as well.

I started a thread on this very same topic a few years ago. Check it out. Hopefully you can glean some good info from it.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?21323-Saturn-How-deep-are-you-willing-to-go&highlight=kano+saturn

[Silvanus]

excellent thread. Iv'e been studying Saturn from an esoteric viewpoint for many years, it's absolutely astounding how much of an influence this body has. From religion, to music,movies, logos,holidays, pop culture, structure design...you name it.
Saturn has been worshipped for thousands of years, morphing into different "gods". The cult of Saturn is represented by a black cube. Just do a google search of "black cube" to get an idea of just how much it permeates our culture.

“Chronos, or Saturn, Dionysos, Hyperion, Atlas, Hercules, were all connected with ‘a great Saturnian continent;’ they were kings that ruled over countries on the western shores of the Mediterranean, Africa and Spain. ”
Baldwin, Prehistoric Nations

Saturn, or "lord of the rings" was also represented as a six pointed star bay the ancient hebrews, later becoming the "star of david". This is the hexagram or 3d cube. Saturn was also depicted as an old bearded man, often biting of the heads of children. Saturnalia was an ancient roman festival held in honor of Saturn, this later morphed into "christmas" as we have today. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturnalia
It is easy to see the connection here, an old bearded man, presents put into cube's ect...there is even an old painting of Saturn riding on a red sleigh, dressed in red like "santa", biting children's heads off and throwing them in a sack. I have it somewhere in my archives if anyone wants to take a look at it..although I do find it quite disturbing.

then there is the Kaaba in Mecha, the procession around the black cube looks exactly like the rotation of the rings of Saturn when viewed from above in time lapse.

I could go on about this for days, it literally goes that deep. What I discovered in my research and direct experiences is not an easy pill to swallow by any means.

It is my opinion that Saturn is the Grand architect worshipped by the freemason's. Saturn goes by the name's of EL/YWHV/METATRON/NIMROD/YALDABOATH and is the false "god" of this 3-d matrix. Saturn is the controller of linear "time" and is also responsible for memory wipes and "reincarnation" into the 3d matrix. The entity Saturn is blind, foolish, wrathful and judgemental. I know this because I have encountered Saturn directly on more than one occasion while having out of body experiences.

Please, don't take my word for it. look into it and see for yourself. It's interesting to say the least! I will provide a few links below for further study in case anyone is interested:

black cube /hypercube and hollywood (http://hollywoodsubliminals.wordpress.com/black-cube)

breaking the cube Pt.1 -my blog writeup on the cult of the cube (http://treeofone.wordpress.com/2012/12/29/breaking-the-cube-pt-1/)

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

I would imagine that the magnetic field of Saturn is quite strong, as evidenced by the strange shape taken by the polar gas-caps or whatever...

I wondered before about this. in February of 2012 I had a strong impression of the planet Saturn while at the same time writing my theories down about Helical waveforms and the possibility that the WTC was felled by electromagnetic waves.

[Silvanus]

I believe you are correct. In all of my encounters with Saturn, I felt an immense gravitational force being exerted upon me.
There is also a youtube video series on the moon's of Saturn, and how 2 of the moons have such dense gravity that they are actually responsible for pushing the debris into rings and keeping them there. The video series was performed in order to provide evidence of gravity being a "push" rather than a "pull".

-SrHxbwTW8U

[Silvanus]

The Saturn machine is in part a giant gyroscope which has the ability to manipulate time, space, and gravity (which are all parts the of the same process). Saturn is also a natural stargate which is why there are so many human military outposts (as well as other races) on many of Saturn's 60+ moons. A strong case can be made that much of the Jewish faith is about Saturn worship, or as it is otherwise known, the "dark star". This has to do with why judges wear black, police wear black, and why we wear black at graduations. It's very deep. Look into it.

Noprophet knows a lot about Saturn and I myself have studied Saturn and its effects on Earth. Ever notice how much symbolism there is for Saturn in our daily lives? Skype symbol? Direct TV symbol? They are telling us where these transmissions are coming from. Also, the cube is very much linked to Saturn. Look into it as well.

I started a thread on this very same topic a few years ago. Check it out. Hopefully you can glean some good info from it.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?21323-Saturn-How-deep-are-you-willing-to-go&highlight=kano+saturn

thank you for the link. There is a post in that thread concerning the connection between metatron's cube and the flower of life, iv'e been looking for this. Much appreciated!

[noprophet]

A little Saturn Symbolism I wandered across today.

http://i48.tinypic.com/6p5dub.jpg

This is from the ad campaign for the 2013 Avalon.

They call it "The New Breed".

[Silvanus]

A little Saturn Symbolism I wandered across today.

http://i48.tinypic.com/6p5dub.jpg

This is from the ad campaign for the 2013 Avalon.


They call it "The New Breed".

very interesting indeed!

[GloriousPoetry]

This is an interesting thread...according to George Kavassilas' (Our Universal Journey ) each chakra in our body is connected to a Saturn ring. I have seen those rings emanating from my body. In 2004 I had an intense kundalini energy release that allowed me to see those rings and at the time I was told by a shaman that the Native American tribes refer to them as the rings of consciousness. Before I spoke to the shaman I intuitively felt that those rings were associated with the planet Saturn. Now that I am reading this thread my intuition was on the dot..... the rings are beautiful and colorful....today what is left of my 2004 experience are energetic entities that emanate from my right eye. Last summer at about 11pm I saw rays of light "cosmic rays" emanating from my right eye as if they were traveling outwardly and destined to a specific direction.
Our human bodies are very much connected to cosmic knowledge that has been hidden from us.