A New Book - The Reality and Spirituality of Life in the Universe

[Abductee S]

This book has just been released by Marshall Vian Summers. It explores and explains the nature and interactions of this region of space and the spirituality of the universe.

It may challenge many of your beliefs, but truth often does. Well worth reading. It is in paperback and e-book forms on Amazon, New Knowledge Library, and Barnes and Noble.

I would be interested in others who have read this.

Update 10/22/12 - The download of this ebook is offered for free at newmessage.org

[markenty13]

Hey, thanks for mentioning this book, i will be buying this now :)

Thanks

[wobbegong]

Excellent book, the most realistic and logical perspective I've read. Many will not like it;)

[S-L]

I agree this is the most accurate book on this topic. For the sake of public interest I posted the third chapter, "The Limits of Space Travel", here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?47460-The-Limits-of-Space-Travel).

[wobbegong]

I agree this is the most accurate book on this topic. For the sake of public interest I posted the third chapter, "The Limits of Space Travel", here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?47460-The-Limits-of-Space-Travel).

Thankyou S-L, that chapter is much in tune with another significant UFO-contact case, from many years ago, discussed here at Avalon, the "Friendship Case":
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?20948-The-Friendship-Case---Il-Caso-Amicizia--&p=507443&highlight=caso+amicizia#post507443
the documentary explains how these visitors needed help from their human friends for the provisioning of resources that they needed for their technologies, basically to sustain them during their permanence on earth. A demonstration of the fact that even very advanced races do need resources - as stated in 'Life in the Universe'.

[raweya]

Did you read the chapter on genetic manipulation and families...? that was not what I was expecting... and the chapter on influence in the mental environment is something I'm going to have to read and reread. So much in there to understand. I have always had a sense that the mind wasn't being used to its capacity, that there was another world that we just didn't understand fully - beyond what we can see. There is so much more going on...

[wobbegong]

Did you read the chapter on genetic manipulation and families...? that was not what I was expecting... and the chapter on influence in the mental environment is something I'm going to have to read and reread. ...

Yes, very interesting. The part about the mental environment has answered a lot of questions I had...just recently I was talking to a person who, surprisingly, is still hooked on the GFL channelings and says that it's all true because a friend of his has a "spirit guide" that tells him it's all good, to be patient about the wrong predictions, gives him reasons for them etc. That is definitely a mental environment influence done by the Intervention.

[nearing]

Can anyone who has read him give a synopsis of him and the book? (mostly him)

[Abductee S]

I was really interested in the second half of the book on the Spirituality of the universe. Uniting evolution and intelligent design was brilliant, and seemed so simple to understand! I have begun to look at things quite differently now.

[wobbegong]

Can anyone who has read him give a synopsis of him and the book? (mostly him)

Hi Nearing,
a very short synopsis in my own words: Mr Summers was a teacher for blind children for several years until, about 30 yrs ago, he was contacted by spiritual forces who taught him to reconnect to "Knowledge" (the deeper mind within us) and urged him to record while they spoke through him. Over this 30 yr period the recordings were transcribed into several books and teachings - nearly 10k pages.
The book "Life in the Universe" warns us about the lies that have been circulating about ET's being angelic beings coming to rescue us. It describes the physical universe we live in as a very competitive environment, similar to the competitiveness we have on earth but on a much larger scale. It describes the cultures on other planet, their practices etc. It's not a very long book, it's really worth a read.

[ponda]

Can anyone who has read him give a synopsis of him and the book? (mostly him)


Here's a link where you can download a pdf of his first book "The Allies of Humanity" for free

http://www.alliesofhumanity.org/allies-of-humanity-book1.pdf

cheers

[Abductee S]

Can anyone who has read him give a synopsis of him and the book? (mostly him)


Here's a link where you can download a pdf of his first book "The Allies of Humanity" for free

http://www.alliesofhumanity.org/allies-of-humanity-book1.pdf

cheers

I feel Life in the Universe gives a much greater context and understanding of the Allies Briefings. To not only see what is happening in our world by the Intervention forces, but how this greater region of the galaxy works, that the earth is a part of, really makes things clear for me.

[Bo Atkinson]

I want to buy the book, realizing the value of fair use, fair trade, etc.....I assume this is the best source:
http://www.newknowledgelibrary.org/greater-community-spirituality-ebook/

I loved the Summers YouTubes from past... Thanks to threads like this i did buy The Allies Of Humanity... I'm 'reading' it now-- Or actually having it read to me through mp3

Is there any place people discuss things like 'knowledge' and 'unity' ? :wizard:


As these terms are presented in The Alies of Humanity? Is there a deeper delving forum somewhere? OK, perhaps it's 10 years too late.... Word searching theses words in this book alone....Gives the impression that there are deeper things to discuss. How else will unity of knowledge occur? I wonder.

[wobbegong]

I want to buy the book, realizing the value of fair use, fair trade, etc.....I assume this is the best source:
http://www.newknowledgelibrary.org/greater-community-spirituality-ebook/

I loved the Summers YouTubes from past... Thanks to threads like this i did buy The Allies Of Humanity... I'm 'reading' it now-- Or actually having it read to me through mp3

Is there any place people discuss things like 'knowledge' and 'unity' ? :wizard:


As these terms are presented in The Alies of Humanity? Is there a deeper delving forum somewhere? OK, perhaps it's 10 years too late.... Word searching theses words in this book alone....Gives the impression that there are deeper things to discuss. How else will unity of knowledge occur? I wonder.

Hi Wavydome, yes, that's the best place for buying the books. You can also look into the www.newmessage.org website, but if you would like more detailed info don't hesitate to send me a p.m.

[Bo Atkinson]

Thanks woebegone,

This page looks great... A place i need to apply or try signing in, for more learning, after finishing these books through mp3...

http://www.newmessage.org/nmfg/The_Free_School_of_the_New_Message_from_God.html

[write4change]

I need to come back to this thread later. Thanks for posting it.

[Matts]

My first contact to the knowledge of Marshall Vian Summers was due to the Camelot-Video in January this year. Recommended for getting first impressions.

http://www.projectcamelotportal.com/interviews/28-video-interviews-and-presentations-by-name/757-marshall-vian-summers.html

[Maia Gabrial]

Why not just go and watch the 17 part videos called "Allies of Humanity"? It will probably give you even more of a detailed idea of what reality and spirituality in the Universe truly is...

[Abductee S]

Why not just go and watch the 17 part videos called "Allies of Humanity"? It will probably give you even more of a detailed idea of what reality and spirituality in the Universe truly is...

Watching/listening to the Allies Briefings will bring an awareness that may be so needed for someone. But, it will not give what Life in the Universe will give you. LIU opens a much larger doorway into the panorama of the universe not only in terms of its functionality, but also the spirituality of it. And as I've said earlier, the explanation of how intelligent design and evolution are wedded is amazing, simple and clear. Please read it yourself if you feel intrigued or pulled to do this.

I would also like to hear how others who read it have responded to it.

[wobbegong]

Why not just go and watch the 17 part videos called "Allies of Humanity"? It will probably give you even more of a detailed idea of what reality and spirituality in the Universe truly is...

Watching/listening to the Allies Briefings will bring an awareness that may be so needed for someone. But, it will not give what Life in the Universe will give you. LIU opens a much larger doorway into the panorama of the universe not only in terms of its functionality, but also the spirituality of it. And as I've said earlier, the explanation of how intelligent design and evolution are wedded is amazing, simple and clear. Please read it yourself if you feel intrigued or pulled to do this.

I would also like to hear how others who read it have responded to it.

The briefings are great, but yes, Abductee S, I too think that LIU gives an unparalleled set of insights and explanations.

[Abductee S]

I haven't seen anyone's remarks that have read the book? Is it that no one has but wobblegong?

[wobbegong]

I haven't seen anyone's remarks that have read the book? Is it that no one has but wobblegong?

Mate, here's some good news: it was released in Italian a few days ago:-)

[Bo Atkinson]

The OP book appears to not be published as an ebook, (rather just in paper). I'll wait and see if they release the OP book, as an ebook. At this point in my life i am reading ebooks, because ebooks can be "read to me" at work (through mp3 software). YouTubes are a chore to make portable and one should hope it is not illegal, (for private listening).

I did get through all the 6 newknowledgelibrary.org ebooks and very much much appreciated them. I even regarded "the message" as one of the best articulated, within a big-integrated-universe-sense. Within the the scope of portraying the rabbit hole issues far and wide. Given the publication dates, the outcomes match the basic predictions made. (Where publication dates do not seem challenged). The broad coverage and styles of metaphor for describing it all seem very well suited to me. Although, i was cross-resonating the content with various studies of 4 decades, by now.

My income-generaing-work is primarily manual labor which allows my mind to simultaneously study. I need to make hay and have developed a more or less 'shipwrecked' lifestyle. Meaning i've veered off of the career-grid for decades and am attempting the efforts needed to test independently stabilized living. Since these things have been predicted by many sources for decades, as a gradual, inevitable eventuality.

It seems to me that the human urge towards comfort zones needs to be "traded in" for some sort of higher principled disciplines. Which might seem a bit stoic or hard edged. It has seemed that way to me, working somewhat isolated. Until or unless one can imbue inspiration and pleasure from principles, instead of the plainly tribal and societal feedbacks. Instead of the 'success' metaphor sold widely in the industrialized nations.

Reaching for higher principles has for me been the greater community integration. Where some sort of subtlety integrated knowledge, slowly replaces the traditional games of human-societal life. There have always remained all sorts of little energies which are hard to release. For concerns about losing human life itself. Yet with continued active-meditation, i do find release points. With continued disciplines, my backward ways are slowly released.

I would be glad to discuss newknowledgelibrary contexts, (the 6 concentrated ebooks). But have doubted anyone on Avalon would participate in a dialog, on such a thread. So i'll put a provocative example here. For instance, greatercommunityspirituality.pdf discusses God in a way which should not offend even a skeptic, a materialist or a philosopher, providing they entertain an open mind with tolerance of specialized, integrated, (non-fundamentalist) definitions:


greatercommunityspirituality.pdf
Chapter One What is God?

In the Greater Community, God is Knowledge. In the Greater Community, God is experience. In the Greater Community, God is the communication of profound insight and recognition from one to another, permeating all manifest life. This comes into being in the realm of your experience. God seems like different things to different people and to different races of beings in the Greater Community........

....In Greater Community Spirituality, there are no heroes. There is no creation story. And there is no culminating experience to bring an end to the difficulties of corporeal life. So, what is religion without these things? These things are tribal in nature. And you are not alone in the Greater Community in wanting them, in establishing them and in holding to them. Everywhere where religion has taken root and has found expression, races have based their practices and their understanding on their own time, their own history and their own temperament. But beyond this is the experience of God. Beyond this is pure spirituality. This is what you must seek now, for human religion can never embody a God of the Greater Community. So inexplicable this is because it transcends your requirements for the Divine. Therefore, you must find another way, a more mature way, a more complete approach, a true preparation.

[wynderer]

hi Wavy -- i really like this part of what you wrote -- & would like to point out that it came from a good, decent USA workingman, & not from the ETs --also re the 'success' metaphor,' the Olympics came immediately to mind

wyn

'It seems to me that the human urge towards comfort zones needs to be "traded in" for some sort of higher principled disciplines. Which might seem a bit stoic or hard edged. It has seemed that way to me, working somewhat isolated. Until or unless one can imbue inspiration and pleasure from principles, instead of the plainly tribal and societal feedbacks. Instead of the 'success' metaphor sold widely in the industrialized nations.'



The OP book appears to not be published as an ebook, (rather just in paper). I'll wait and see if they release the OP book, as an ebook. At this point in my life i am reading ebooks, because ebooks can be "read to me" at work (through mp3 software). YouTubes are a chore to make portable and one should hope it is not illegal, (for private listening).

I did get through all the 6 newknowledgelibrary.org ebooks and very much much appreciated them. I even regarded "the message" as one of the best articulated, within a big-integrated-universe-sense. Within the the scope of portraying the rabbit hole issues far and wide. Given the publication dates, the outcomes match the basic predictions made. (Where publication dates do not seem challenged). The broad coverage and styles of metaphor for describing it all seem very well suited to me. Although, i was cross-resonating the content with various studies of 4 decades, by now.

My income-generaing-work is primarily manual labor which allows my mind to simultaneously study. I need to make hay and have developed a more or less 'shipwrecked' lifestyle. Meaning i've veered off of the career-grid for decades and am attempting the efforts needed to test independently stabilized living. Since these things have been predicted by many sources for decades, as a gradual, inevitable eventuality.

It seems to me that the human urge towards comfort zones needs to be "traded in" for some sort of higher principled disciplines. Which might seem a bit stoic or hard edged. It has seemed that way to me, working somewhat isolated. Until or unless one can imbue inspiration and pleasure from principles, instead of the plainly tribal and societal feedbacks. Instead of the 'success' metaphor sold widely in the industrialized nations.

Reaching for higher principles has for me been the greater community integration. Where some sort of subtlety integrated knowledge, slowly replaces the traditional games of human-societal life. There have always remained all sorts of little energies which are hard to release. For concerns about losing human life itself. Yet with continued active-meditation, i do find release points. With continued disciplines, my backward ways are slowly released.

I would be glad to discuss newknowledgelibrary contexts, (the 6 concentrated ebooks). But have doubted anyone on Avalon would participate in a dialog, on such a thread. So i'll put a provocative example here. For instance, greatercommunityspirituality.pdf discusses God in a way which should not offend even a skeptic, a materialist or a philosopher, providing they entertain an open mind with tolerance of specialized, integrated, (non-fundamentalist) definitions:


greatercommunityspirituality.pdf
Chapter One What is God?

In the Greater Community, God is Knowledge. In the Greater Community, God is experience. In the Greater Community, God is the communication of profound insight and recognition from one to another, permeating all manifest life. This comes into being in the realm of your experience. God seems like different things to different people and to different races of beings in the Greater Community........

....In Greater Community Spirituality, there are no heroes. There is no creation story. And there is no culminating experience to bring an end to the difficulties of corporeal life. So, what is religion without these things? These things are tribal in nature. And you are not alone in the Greater Community in wanting them, in establishing them and in holding to them. Everywhere where religion has taken root and has found expression, races have based their practices and their understanding on their own time, their own history and their own temperament. But beyond this is the experience of God. Beyond this is pure spirituality. This is what you must seek now, for human religion can never embody a God of the Greater Community. So inexplicable this is because it transcends your requirements for the Divine. Therefore, you must find another way, a more mature way, a more complete approach, a true preparation.

[Abductee S]

I believe the e-book is still in the works, sorry. Only the paper version is currently available.

[Abductee S]

The Kindle version is now available from Amazon. It's only $2.99 and can be electronically downloaded.

[Matts]

Have read his new "The Great Waves Of Change" and half of "Life in the Universe" and was sometimes very fascinated, sometimes very disturbed. What makes me so amazing is that it should go in the galaxy between the races pretty much the same as here on Earth between the nations. In principle, all argue for the limited resources, it is only prohibited the use of open force (otherwise threatens isolation and therefore no resources were available). But hey, bribery, corruption, seduction - anything goes. And the really "good guys" have to hide somewhere far, so they do not become victims of the influence of other (less good). Sounds to me somehow fascinating creepy. But is it correct? After all, the only source is the "Angelic Voice". I'm still a little perplexed, but reading the books will continue. I also find the course "Steps to Knowledge" quite well to educate myself in being aware.

(Sorry for my English with Google Translator :o )

[Abductee S]

Thanks Matts for your input. I certainly understand your point about all the information coming from something we can't see and can't understand. I have to say, there may be no way to get further down that road. But, what I can say is in all my readings of the information Marshall has presented, nothing has felt "wrong". Some of it certainly isn't to my liking, or what I would prefer to have as reality. But even that stuff feels "right" deep down in my gut. I have always looked at what is this information telling me, and telling me to do.

It is sound and follows logic and our own experience here on earth. Why would we expect it to be different in the universe? Life is life and the reality of the physical still demands the same things - food, safety, security, companionship, resources, etc... To believe or hope that is different is even farther out than simply acknowledging what life is like here and allowing that experience to guide your expansion into the universe.

Yes we have incredible people here and yes we have terrible people here too, and everything in between. It makes sense that is the way of things everywhere (for the most part). So no matter where this information came from that Marshall presents, it seems like the best approach to dealing with the unknown in ways that are known. I'm not saying shoot everything and ask questions later. I'm saying use your head, be skeptical and discerning, be careful and don't take things necessarily at face value. We can always ease up later, but if we ease up now and lose something (freedom, the world) it will be much harder and costlier to regain it later..if ever.

[wobbegong]

Matts your English is perfect mate! I can really say "ditto" about what AbducteeS has explained and I totally identify with your phrase "I'm still a little perplexed, but reading the books will continue." That's exactly what I did, kept reading, and now, after having done that, I totally trust both sources: MarshallVS/the Angelic Unseen Ones and the group of Allies. There isn't one single false prediction or the likes in those books - true some of the things cannot yet be proven and you just have to trust your inner voice, but if you look around...wow man, false predictions, false promises, half truths...this Forum has actually pointed out most of them:-)

[danimyl]

Having just started my second read of Life in the Universe I wanted to jump in here with a recommendation.

This is a stark contrast from almost everything most of us have ever supposed or imagined about the interactions among races who are universally vying for access to limited resources. Much to the disappointment of anyone who wants to believe that a visitor from beyond would be benevolent or at least neutral, the picture that emerges here is quite the opposite.

Free energy? Forget it. Enlightenment does not go hand in hand with technological advancement. Sound familiar? No advanced nation will mount an expedition to come here and hold our hand through humanity's adolescent stages of evolution, and the reason why is so simple we should be kicking ourselves for not understanding it in all its universal simplicity.

It's too expensive.

The only reason to come here is for gain. What to do we have that other planets lack? Biology. Very diverse biology and lots of it. In a universe of barren planets, that makes Earth a coveted gem. The pace at which we are spoiling this place makes this a very urgent matter in the eyes of our envious neighbors.

In other words, we've emerged into a competitive market and a leveraged buyout is not far off. Read on. Freedom is rare in all societies. States infiltrate religion to guard against subversion. What I've taken away from the latest MV Summers offering is the firm conviction that we are on the verge of permanently spoiling one of the sweetest deals in galactic history. There is nothing out there that we should want or need. But if we give up our self-sufficiency we will have little hope of maintaining our sovereignty. This is why human unity is a top priority. This is why we must make do with less, curtail our behavior, and learn discretion with our neighbors/competitors.

[raweya]

Yes... There are also some videos by danielofdoria with the complete Allies 3 book on youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2nWvdctcG8

I heard he was thinking about doing the Life in the Universe book too. Hope so.

[raweya]

Have read his new "The Great Waves Of Change" and half of "Life in the Universe" and was sometimes very fascinated, sometimes very disturbed. What makes me so amazing is that it should go in the galaxy between the races pretty much the same as here on Earth between the nations. In principle, all argue for the limited resources, it is only prohibited the use of open force (otherwise threatens isolation and therefore no resources were available). But hey, bribery, corruption, seduction - anything goes. And the really "good guys" have to hide somewhere far, so they do not become victims of the influence of other (less good). Sounds to me somehow fascinating creepy. But is it correct? After all, the only source is the "Angelic Voice". I'm still a little perplexed, but reading the books will continue. I also find the course "Steps to Knowledge" quite well to educate myself in being aware.

(Sorry for my English with Google Translator :o )

Its great to have these translation abilities. So, what is your native language?

[Bo Atkinson]

Thanks all, but i think one catch-all thread could loose some desirable detailing. I'm studying some aspects of the messages in this book. I'll just add a few things below, for the catch-all aspect. It would interest me at some point to contrast specifics more deeply along with other sources on our situation in the universe. For me especially the thread on Alien Mind, where the book author just logged in to Avalon, out the blue.

Through the series of Summer's books, a concept is reiterated, to the effect that "the wise ones isolate themselves from contact" to avoid hassles from materialistic-authoritarian-conquest.... Also to develop non-violent civilization, unhindered. Also to maintain non-interference with the predatory-evolutionary-aspect of the universe, even the techno-self-deception of infinite techno-growth. Along with the ethics of letting self-programmed beings have a domain to work out the 'separateness' and indulge in 'supremacy' (of the predatory kind). By contrast, in separation, allowing wisdom to flourish in isolated, independent, enlightened societies which practice a fully-hidden separateness. (All of which is the main experiential feature of physical universe separateness with opposites, potentials, polarity, chirality, yin-yang, etc... While existing as one universe.

This is the perception i've taken and thereby assumed the message was saying something like: "Do not fear the study or the knowledge of wisdom". Rather it would be the politicization of wisdom?-- Which would be attacked and suppressed by mind-controller-types, (on this and on other galactic worlds).... Like the Qilin Gong suppression in China of today or the western suppressions, crucifixions, crusades or witch-hunts (Still happening, perhaps in dribbles or dabs)....? I still wonder what was particularly pointed at on this planet. Or perhaps it was more an explanation that humanity has to actually commit to impending choices. Humanity has the unique possibility of balancing sciences with soulful and 'Knowledge' traits (which are lacking in the technologically-supperior neighbors in the universe)... That certain human talents could elevate our mind-abilities to attain higher conditions of existence, than are possible with aliens who are stuck with superior-technologies alone. That mid-abilities are ultimately superior to advanced technology. (Meant with all due respect to humans who think sciences alone are the ultimate wisdom of existence).

Another big aspect for me was something like... "Brace yourselves now!" The so called disclosure or contact (or market invasion) is indeed going to happen in way which illudes, distracts and mind-controls the unwary... Especially the easily seduced who want that new miracle-drug-addiction (from ETs), and who sell all resources to get it. That we still have some opportunity remaining to promote the notion of demanding better negotiations, in the galactic trade which will (or already ensues under cover)... The nature of current, resource depletion is bad enough to throw our planet into a miserable climatic tail spin. Perhaps a tail spin worse than the so called "climate warming"-- The term which should have been called "earth devastation" instead. The Waves Of Change book was reiterated... Ya, i think there is a crescendo of changes, notable over the decades. How much devastation is needed to alert humanity to galactic trade wars ensuing?

[Matts]

Hello raweya, my native language is german.
Mostly I look and read the posts, active posting only in few cases. And this here is such one. It's very fascinating and sounds truly ... if ... the received voice is really unmixed with the ego - and I assume that Marshall and his family are doing their best to express the stuff as clear as possible - but it's not the transcription of the voice via a radio broadcast. The broadcast emerged in the person hisself. Another question: If the allies are located in our solar system and never were here on earth - how they can have such an insight in our dayly life and affairs? Marshall told us, that it is not that simple to travel over big distances, you must have fuel, free energy ist only seemingly free (you must have instruments to make it available for yourself). Stargates are also a dangerous thing even for the most advanced societies in space....
Thus all sounds very very familiar to our circumstances here on earth, only on a very much wider scale.
On the other side - we still have samples of machines that are using "free" energy. It appears step by step in the media (alternative actually). Even Wilhelm Reich developed such one (Orgone-motor) some 60 years ago.
It's somehow bleak to think, that nearly all ETs (only a very few exceptions) are only competetive (and even not knowing compassion). I heard through lessons about the alternative growing up of (human) individuals, that there may be a more constructive and much less competetive psychological structuring of the mind. I'm sure we are now not structured as "nature" would provided. But this is another story :)
Until now I'm very grateful for the informations from Marshall Vian Summers and the discussions here in the forum. It gives a furhter insight in the ET-matter and another kick in the ass to get aware of myself and the people and things around me.

[Abductee S]

Based on what I've learned from this book and other books by Summers, I feel that outright disclosure will not happen. It is stated that this Intervention is covert and carried out by small groups of ETs. They have a great advantage as long as they remain hidden. So unless a mishap occurs and a large number of people observe something they shouldn't have, I don't think the governments will disclose.

[niki]

This book has just been released by Marshall Vian Summers. It explores and explains the nature and interactions of this region of space and the spirituality of the universe.

It may challenge many of your beliefs, but truth often does. Well worth reading. It is in paperback and e-book forms on Amazon, New Knowledge Library, and Barnes and Noble.

I would be interested in others who have read this.

I don't see any link,
can somebody please tell me the link to the book?
really interested to learn about this.

thank you~

~regards from Indonesia~

[GloriousPoetry]

Thanks, I've been looking for an interesting and different type of book to read. This sounds like the stuff I resonate with for various reasons.

[Abductee S]

This book has just been released by Marshall Vian Summers. It explores and explains the nature and interactions of this region of space and the spirituality of the universe.

It may challenge many of your beliefs, but truth often does. Well worth reading. It is in paperback and e-book forms on Amazon, New Knowledge Library, and Barnes and Noble.

I would be interested in others who have read this.

I don't see any link,
can somebody please tell me the link to the book?
really interested to learn about this.

thank you~

~regards from Indonesia~

The book is on Amazon and is in paperback and Kindle form. Here is the link to Amazon

http://www.amazon.com/Life-Universe-Marshall-Vian-Summers/dp/1884238491/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top

[Bo Atkinson]

Based on what I've learned from this book and other books by Summers, I feel that outright disclosure will not happen. It is stated that this Intervention is covert and carried out by small groups of ETs. They have a great advantage as long as they remain hidden. So unless a mishap occurs and a large number of people observe something they shouldn't have, I don't think the governments will disclose.

I've been curious about this...

If a trade agreement had been made between dominant-monopolists and some certain ET group....
If the dominant-monopolists are at some later point of time, thrown out of power....
Does the first contract or agreement with the dominant-monopolist remain in effect?
If so, under which court or which authority? Or is it just covert-anarchy from ETs?

Transparency in governance might also develop. Which suggests disclosure of frauds, ultimately leading to ET? identification--
Presuming reports are correct about ET contracts with dominant-monopolists.

"Disclosure" increasingly seems to becoming a disclosure of financial fraud. If people "follow the money" (far enough).

[Abductee S]

Based on what I've learned from this book and other books by Summers, I feel that outright disclosure will not happen. It is stated that this Intervention is covert and carried out by small groups of ETs. They have a great advantage as long as they remain hidden. So unless a mishap occurs and a large number of people observe something they shouldn't have, I don't think the governments will disclose.

I've been curious about this...

If a trade agreement had been made between dominant-monopolists and some certain ET group....
If the dominant-monopolists are at some later point of time, thrown out of power....
Does the first contract or agreement with the dominant-monopolist remain in effect?
If so, under which court or which authority? Or is it just covert-anarchy from ETs?

Transparency in governance might also develop. Which suggests disclosure of frauds, ultimately leading to ET? identification--
Presuming reports are correct about ET contracts with dominant-monopolists.

"Disclosure" increasingly seems to becoming a disclosure of financial fraud. If people "follow the money" (far enough).

Yes a good question. My opinion is that the original agreements were made without proper authority from the human race, and thus are poor standing to begin with. It is also stated in the Allies Book 3 that the original agreement was violated by the ET races themselves shortly after it was made. This prompted the original human counterparts to lose faith in the agreement and their dealings with the ETs involved. Those within the US government and the Soviet government (who were involved in the original agreement) began to turn away from the ET presence and attempt to counter it.

This created rifts within both governments. For some humans were strong enough to shake off the conditioning and promises given by the ETs and some were not. Many were simply unaware of the entire situation. As time has progressed, much of this has been forgotten and softened. Yet there remains opposition to the Intervention within parts of these governments. This has caused the change in ET Intervention tactics to focus more on commercial and economic powers for allegiance and influence. These powers strongly influence the political arena and these powers are not accountable to the public at large.

The ET Intervention is focusing on dividing us, causing conflict between us, and the overuse and consumption of our vital natural resources. This is occurring and will drive humanity into desperation and with that, an opening for ET to offer us salvation and an end to our problems. Yet, what that will usher in is loss of everything we value and have created. It will enslave us and our children and unleash a reality that will be totally oppressive and untenable for us. This is the way many emerging races end up in the universe. We are at that threshold and time is running out. It is said in several discourses that our fate will be determined within the next 20 years.

[Bo Atkinson]

[QUOTE=wavydome;556359][QUOTE=Abductee S;555300]

....... This has caused the change in ET Intervention tactics to focus more on commercial and economic powers for allegiance and influence. These powers strongly influence the political arena and these powers are not accountable to the public at large.

The ET Intervention is focusing on dividing us, causing conflict between us, and the overuse and consumption of our vital natural resources. This is occurring and will drive humanity into desperation and with that, an opening for ET to offer us salvation and an end to our problems.


With all due respect and a neutral sentiment: These statements seem to stamp an anarchic-label on our planet. The wild planet full of hybrid genetics and risky biological experiments. Keep out! As labeled by legal trade groups and peaceful galactic sectors. Except the galactic underworld-types are scrounging earth for illicit trafficking of portable resources, (genetic building blocks and perhaps even genetic bombs to other planets?)

The issue of societal purpose and why humans support the process of civilization comes to mind. Humanity should more readily pursue the quest for civilization. Indeed, humanity is distracted by the commercialist trinkets and tricksters. Which indeed scorches and burns our planet. Which well fits Summer's (and other's) warnings. Despite the many varied efforts to raise consciousness, humanity votes with their cash spending. Instead of bothering to prioritize a workable-sustainable-individualist-civilization.

The highest human government does seem to be hidden economic powers, (economics without publicly-shared-morals). Politics subverts consciousness. Wars have always solved unrelated and undisclosed ends. At least some financiers seem to support global-racial-genocides as their plan for preferred survivors to rebuild with. Which well-fits a collectivist-approach to civilizing:

Remove the individualist-culture of humanity first. Individualism has failed the civilization effort. So just remove it! And yes, here we have a salvation in the wings, just for you. Alien-collectivism at it's root, conquering new territories. Beware, life is not a consumerist-dream.

What sort of human can expect to benefit from a human down-grade or human-demise? What sort of powerful humans support the alien effort? Are such people hybrids with inhuman tendencies? Or perhaps an archon-ic transplantation or whatnot? I wonder onwards. Common culture is too absorbed as an effect of materialism rather than to procure higher awarenesses. Higher awareness has even been marketed as trojan hook.

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[QUOTE=wavydome;556359][QUOTE=Abductee S;555300]

.... It is also stated in the Allies Book 3 that the original agreement was violated by the ET races themselves shortly after it was made. This prompted the original human counterparts to lose faith in the agreement and their dealings with the ETs involved. Those within the US government and the Soviet government (who were involved in the original agreement) began to turn away from the ET presence and attempt to counter it.

I had wondered if the Allies Book series was meant to be a continuing book. Or was it more of an update done twice?.... Book 2 almost seemed like an updated version, in my initial reading effort. So i moved on to all the other titles, instead. (Eager to get a wider grasp sooner).

If you can tell me your view on this, then, i might restart from Book 2. As your mention of Book 3 seems more specific on the "main characters". More specific than i recall, generally. Thanks.

[Abductee S]

Thanks for your in depth responses wavydome. I think my intent was to portray the earth and its relevant interactions in this region of space. We simply are involved in a "game" of power, resources and influence on a much greater scale and complexity than we have ever known amongst human nations. But, the chief idea is that all sentient life still must contend with the rigors of physical life, survival and the need for stability, security and resources.

The issues of hybrids in this context is the genetic manipulation and creation by the Intervention of human/ET hybrids for the goal of a being that has the physical stamina and ability to live in this world, but the allegiance with and the mental abilities of the ET originator and group. These beings have now been refined enough to be present and active in the world. Some are definitely in the vicinity of powerful individuals and are influencing their behavior. Others are within the world in a yet unknown functioning. Their numbers are still small but increasing.

In answer to your question of the three books being a continuation of each other, I would say that wasn't the intention. Each book represents a contact episode of the Allies with Marshall. Each was given very quickly to him through a process of "mind connection" at some level. The Allies always were at a distance from earth during this. The first book was given within our solar system. It was the awareness of the situation, the context and a solution. The second book was given just before the Allies fled our solar system due to their presence being uncovered. This occurred from the release of the first book and subsequent search by the Intervention for them. The third book was transmitted from a far distance from our solar system. Each was an attempt to convey relevant information and awareness for us to act. The subsequent books were updates to situations that had changed, answering some questions that had arisen from the first book, more information to us due to lack of response on our parts and attempting to give us what was required from the Allies to complete their obligation and mission.

[danimyl]

What sort of human can expect to benefit from a human down-grade or human-demise? What sort of powerful humans support the alien effort? Are such people hybrids with inhuman tendencies?

One of the explanations here is the abduction of an enormous number of people, some for experimentation such as the hybrid program, but some for the purposes of "turning" their minds to support the Intervention. Once turned, they are far more likely to be among those who have lost faith in humanity and actively promote Intervention to "save us from ourselves" in one form or another. Others welcome it from a spiritual stance, not realizing that their beliefs are so easily manipulated, and that the Intervention itself has no recognition of spirit whatsoever. They merely pander to human beliefs insofar as they see them as tools for manipulation. Still others are enchanted simply with the concept of being contacted and the fact that this represents some remarkable departure from normalcy.

The Allies describe how easily an event like the Second Coming can be staged using their superior understanding of the Mental Environment. They can project voices into the minds of the devout with the intent to turn them against the infidels. In these scenarios, active support of the Intervention isn't even necessary. Their purposes are fulfilled merely by manipulating belief to support a "divide and conquer" tactic. Consider how easily a totalitarian regime could seize control in such a scenario without requiring any overt alien presence or show of force.

And certainly the individualism is perplexing to them. Hence, their efforts are supported by any movement toward a more homogenized human culture and, indeed, this has been underway for some time. Really, they are not so concerned that everyone is the same, so long as they can understand how to manipulate their beliefs. But larger tracts of human populations whose behavior can be predicted on the same models will make it far easier for them to enact their agenda.

What is most confounding to them, according to the Allies, is the inexplicable expressions of devotion demonstrated by us. This is foreign to their experience and difficult to incorporate into predictions. The more we strengthen our connection to our higher selves, such as through the Steps to Knowledge (they tell us that throughout our larger galactic community this higher self, or God mind, is referred to as the Knowing Mind, or Knowledge), the more confounding we make ourselves. And, of course, this also strengthens our resolve and makes us impervious to overt control and Pacification.

[Bo Atkinson]

Thanks danimyl , for joining this discussion. You have brought up that important aspect of "true Knowledge" as Marshall does devote many pages his important distinctions. To his promotion of one's higher self connection.

I for one really loved the basics of his lengthy coverage, for stepping towards Knowledge. On the other hand , i have studied so many systems that devoting exclusively to Marshall's steps would require more commitments on my own part. This thread might perhaps encourage people to at least move in this direction. I would join a deeper discussion, even here.

I think Marshalls works do provide a great avenue for persons coming from faith experiences. Who keep exploring or searching for additional avenues to explore. I have always been independent-minded in the spiritual realm which often conflicted with multiple faiths i sought to understand and discuss with devout people. I would have to include any people who practice very focussed sytems of any kind, where there is strong focus without effort to understand multiple systems. This even includes the flavors of materialism. Also including the over simplification of words like 'channeling' or deeper-inspirations.

The rigidity to be found among many people may indeed be part of the problem which the allies of humanity referred to. Or perhaps this even includes the sorts of indifference or also aspects of easy-going lifestyles-- Which don't want anything new or compelling or complex. Rather just to find an easy stream to row. Resistances to deeper understandings of things could well be promoted by the invaders of humanity. What else shall we call them, the high jackers of humanity. Who are baited by the diverse promotions of soft living. I wish that the entertainment industry had made more shows like MacGyver, (a very independent scholarly-inventor-doer kind of fella).

In any case, i wonder if Marshall's message is held back by having an organization... Note i highly respect his family organization and wish the best for them. It is simply a mind-exploration of mine: Is it possible for humans to share liberating-spirituality without official organizations? Herein is part of what i would include, when discussing the individualist-feature-of-humanity. Christianity after all got hijacked by the emperors and evolved through politics. So has academia been hijacked to an extent by monopolists, of the same politics.

I expect that many avalonians are reluctant to discuss the high-jacking aspect of earth, within Marshall's contexts-- Only because one has to sort of accept "channeling phenomena" first. I simply have spent my life going directly to content first, before taking the ad-hominan approach of checking references, pecking orders and what not.

One example of message-spreading, might well be individualists posting comments- Posting on diverse venues, like Progressive Radio Network. One example might be to post Marshall's issues on comment boxes, provided on these radio shows:

http://prn.fm/2012/09/14/exploration-origins-091412/#axzz27HUdo5iU

http://prn.fm/2012/09/07/exploration-life-090712/#axzz27HUdo5iU

http://prn.fm/shows/science-shows/big-picture-science/#axzz27HUdo5iU

http://prn.fm/shows/spiritual-shows/godspeed-institute/#axzz27HUdo5iU

With a little help getting some links or refs, i might try this myself. As i am a little bit familiar with this network. I would also need to listen in to these podcasts first, to be fair and to integrate smoothly.

[Bo Atkinson]

In answer to your question of the three books being a continuation of each other, I would say that wasn't the intention. Each book represents a contact episode of the Allies with Marshall.


Thanks so much for your explanation AbducteeS.

It really redirects me to restart at book 2.

Yes, i have thought a lot about the plight of our allies and will dig into these books soon.

[danimyl]

Thanks for the links Wavydome. You're right, this looks like a good place for some of these ideas to take root. As far as the requirement for organizations, in this case I think it was a necessity. Simply publishing the material in the first place required a free-standing organization to be established. Maintaining a website requires organization. It's really just another example of what the requirements are in physical existence. The need for administration and promotion doesn't disappear with the presence of a very high teaching. Just like the need for resources doesn't disappear with a high technology.

[Abductee S]

I have heard that the e-book version of Life in the Universe will be able to be downloaded for free from Amazon on the days of 9-28, 9-29 and 10-2-12. Well worth getting it if you haven't already.

[Abductee S]

Just to update again. If you would like to read this book, and haven't yet, the publisher is offering a free download (no time limit) at newmessage.org.

[S-L]

When this book was first announced I remember being very excited about learning how the universe arounds us functions. How do nations trade together? Does war exist in this region of space? What kind of social organizations do other worlds have? What about genetic engineering?

Life in the Universe certainly did not disappoint on these issues, but after re-reading it I find myself even more interested in the spiritual aspect of it all. In this forum and elsewhere there has been much conversation about the spiritual power innate within humanity. It's a fascinating topic. This book provides insight into this from a universal perspective, and even goes into detail about how this spiritual power is used in the universe by certain gracious societies and individuals. Really interesting stuff.

It also paints a compelling picture as to how the universe is actually organized, tying in natural evolution, God's creation, and the work of Unseen Forces in the universe. It just makes sense. I find myself re-reading these parts of the book more than the others. Worth the read for sure, especially now that they are offering it for free.

[wobbegong]

I loved the book, as I already mentioned...but I have a question for those like me who have read it and believe in its message: did you not feel a bit disappointed to find out that there isn't a spiritually advanced universe out there, that is like a loving family ready to take us under its wings and make everything work out for us?
...or close to that I mean...

[Bo Atkinson]

Thanks for continued discussions,

Actually, the spiritual aspect has fascinated me too.

However i felt this aspect was largely clumped into one basic aspect only: Knowledge, (special definition here).

That the spiritual-mechanics, (if you will) is entirely a matter of each individual being or group of beings, to develop locally.

The individuality or "god within" aspect is truly emphasized. So important not to invoke cultic biases or nationalistic biases, or regional biases, or galactic biases..... Important not to cramp living creativity.

As for "spiritually advanced universe".... I don't see the book excluding such possibilities. Rather it seems more of a 'challenge', to pick up from our struggles and push forward in total-awareness (in other words in perceptual and in responsible -advancement). Largely in do-it-yourself, with or without fellow-assitance. (As Knowledge can be sought within self or with others).

As i read it, a universe might be defined as a self-contained system of celestial mechanics with life at multiple, manifested levels.

Yet the focus was not so much on these itemized levels (of the universe, or of any other(?) universe)-- Rather it was more about our human struggle within a local galactic struggle...

^__^

[Abductee S]

I have just read in a recently released Teaching that said, "There are no enlightened races of beings in the universe, or they would not be in this stage of reality. Everyone is dealing with the problems of Separation, and while there are wise individuals and sometimes wise leaders of nations, everyone has the same fundamental problem. It is the problem not only of survival and security in a changing physical reality; it is the problem of what one will follow and what others will follow within themselves and between each other."

When I look at it in this perspective, it gives much sense to what is said in Life in the Universe concerning spirituality, and the real nature of our dilemmas.

[Abductee S]

Just listened to an interesting, short interview of Marshall and this book by a large Dublin, Ireland radio station. Here is the link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ebU4nGLML0

[wobbegong]

Just listened to an interesting, short interview of Marshall and this book by a large Dublin, Ireland radio station. Here is the link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ebU4nGLML0

Thankyou Abductee S...I was looking for that...

[Brymbosa]

Im searching for the book"Inteligent life in the universe" by carl sagan.I was told it is one of the best books around?
I know it is very expensive in hardback.

[MariaDine]

I subscrive Marshall Vian Summers .

The watchers are right. And we will have to stand on our two feet...part of the growing up...No Et's are going to save us. We have to do it !