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jmj12
18th July 2012, 06:16
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The system approaching us coming out of the Kuiper Belt (Nibiru) is part of this equation, but this is manageable. However the Base Disk (Black Hole) holding our Galaxy in position below us is the real problem. All material known to us that was sent into it on an exploratory never returned. Ships or probes. We are approaching this at a very high rate of speed and the material is charged with a plasma UN-known to us. It is believed that the area which is commonly referred to as "the Rift" is multidimensionally polarized and thus our current systems will not function during the passage through it. The pulsed phasing alone would probably render most, if not all electronics inoperative and you can forget about all satellites. The speed or movement of the disk is not measurable and because of the angle of approach, it is believed we will skip off its surface several times before entry. The last geologic survey pertaining to a complete passage, or one full rotation around the central sun recorded a " World Quake," where all tectonic Plates shifted at the same time. It is believed that this event was caused by a Base Disk Impact. This is the real reason most of the Elite are nervous.


http://projectcamelotportal.com/

Cognitive Dissident
18th July 2012, 11:16
Interesting, but the idea that there is a black hole holding our galaxy in place just makes no sense at all.

Anyone?

Mike Gorman
18th July 2012, 11:21
I have heard Astrophysicists talk of a 'Central Sun', or a conglomerate of galaxies concentrated into one mass (can you imagine the gravity?) but a 'Black Hole' would
be difficult, it is said we little understand black Holes in any case. Who knows with this stuff, it all seems like elaborate guesswork and grandstanding ?

Cognitive Dissident
18th July 2012, 12:49
Agree. It seems exciting but that's part of the problem. I only hope that Kerry does not contract "Drake's Syndrome" which has been so widespread recently.

spiritguide
18th July 2012, 13:35
It is known by physicists that 96% of the universe is made up of dark matter and dark energy and only a small percentage of the 4% of universal matter is scientifically proven. Why are the scientific gurus talking about the unknown as gospel and probable belief? Looking into the pool they are swimming in they really don't know what is in the water with them. IMHO

The following link will show the ancestor's logic on this..... http://robertmorningsky.com/page110.html#top

Listen to the CD and read the page. Aboriginal perception !!!!

Cognitive Dissident
18th July 2012, 13:42
The whole idea of dark matter is just an ad hoc invention of modern physics IMHO.

I think RMS is right about energy, but he does not need to use the idea of dark matter to justify it.

http://rense.com/general63/cone.htm is an example of the alternative thinking on dark matter.

araucaria
18th July 2012, 13:57
Interesting, but the idea that there is a black hole holding our galaxy in place just makes no sense at all.

Anyone?

central perhaps, but below us??

Why are they surprised at not getting anything back from a black hole? By definition nothing escapes a black hole, not even light.

seantimberwolf
18th July 2012, 15:56
the idea of a black hole in the center of our galaxy is not so far fetched if you apply basic pyhsics.

The galaxy spins, all galaxys do, so it's a smart assumption that there must be something in the center creating the centrifugal force required to spin a galaxy.

9eagle9
18th July 2012, 16:03
It would seem when you get into deep space where there is little in the way of directional reference, the term 'below' has very little meaning. The earth moves around the sun, does some black hole follow it?

A black hole 'below' the whole solar system? Galaxy? All of these constructs are in motion, is this black hole just following along to remain positioned 'below"?



Interesting, but the idea that there is a black hole holding our galaxy in place just makes no sense at all.

Anyone?

central perhaps, but below us??

Why are they surprised at not getting anything back from a black hole? By definition nothing escapes a black hole, not even light.

RMorgan
18th July 2012, 16:10
the idea of a black hole in the center of our galaxy is not so far fetched if you apply basic pyhsics.

The galaxy spins, all galaxys do, so it's a smart assumption that there must be something in the center creating the centrifugal force required to spin a galaxy.

Hey Sean,

Yes, it´s possible indeed.

Black holes have mass just like a star, in fact, a black hole is just a large star that has collapsed. Eventually, even our sun could become a black hole someday.

As long as the planets are outside Schwarzschild radius, they could orbit a black hole.

However, anyone who claims with any degree of certainty that there´s a black hole in the center of our galaxy, gluing it together, is just making a big wild guess.

Cheers,

Raf.

araucaria
18th July 2012, 16:19
According to Nassim Haramein, black hole structures appear at every level; even atoms have a Schwarzchild horizon, and so do individual humans. How, I wonder, would this apply to the present discussion?

Bill Ryan
18th July 2012, 17:12
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I read this ... and can make zero sense of it.


the Base Disk (Black Hole) holding our Galaxy in position below us

Huh?


"the Rift" is multidimensionally polarized and thus our current systems will not function during the passage through it.

Our solar system is not headed towards, or about to pass through, the center of the galaxy, or any black hole. (Here's all about the Dark Rift (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Rift_(astronomy)).)


All material known to us that was sent into it on an exploratory never returned. Ships or probes.

We've not sent any exploratory anything there. (Way too far away... even using the kind of wormhole/stargate technology that transports personnel to Mars.)

The rest of this, to use the words often enjoyed in debate by maverick theoretical physicist Jack Sarfatti (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Sarfatti), is "not even wrong."

I despair of this kind of nonsense, which helps nobody. You can put that on record.

seantimberwolf
18th July 2012, 17:28
the idea of a black hole in the center of our galaxy is not so far fetched if you apply basic pyhsics.

The galaxy spins, all galaxys do, so it's a smart assumption that there must be something in the center creating the centrifugal force required to spin a galaxy.

Hey Sean,

Yes, it´s possible indeed.

Black holes have mass just like a star, in fact, a black hole is just a large star that has collapsed. Eventually, even our sun could become a black hole someday.

As long as the planets are outside Schwarzschild radius, they could orbit a black hole.

However, anyone who claims with any degree of certainty that there´s a black hole in the center of our galaxy, gluing it together, is just making a big wild guess.

Cheers,

Raf.

Oh dont get me wrong i dont think it may be the case myself, but i think its not entirely outside the box in terms of pyhsics,
As bill stated we cannot even begin to know that kind of information,
my belief is something is within the center holding it together and creating that spinning force, but what is way beyond our knowledge (notice i did not say beyond our understanding) :)
Im sure there are some race's that have those answers but its all guess,

I like the idea of planets orbating a black hole though, creates fantastic images and would make a great Sci-Fi book.
I would surmise that any planet orbiting a black hole would have to be very big to sustain the orbit without crossing the Schwarzschild radius.

RMorgan
18th July 2012, 17:38
I despair of this kind of nonsense, which helps nobody. You can put that on record.

Hey Bill,

Thanks for clarifying things.

What´s up with Kerry that she keeps publishing one nonsense story after another?

I´m not sure about it, but if you are friends, maybe you should try to give her some advice.

She´s just too close to lose all her credibility.

Cheers,

Raf.

seantimberwolf
18th July 2012, 17:41
It does seem more often than not allot of "vague" information is comming from her direction of late?

M6*
18th July 2012, 17:49
Thanks for posting this. I just finished reading Kerry's blog, and I wonder what people here will think about it. M6*

ThePythonicCow
18th July 2012, 18:27
Extract from blog
A few hours later, Jackovesk posted more material from this same blog entry of Kerry's, in an existing thread, at Kerry Cassidy: Ultra 'Classified' Whistleblower (Intel)..! (Post #45) (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?47441-Kerry-Cassidy-Ultra-Classified-Whistleblower--Intel-..-&p=523445&viewfull=1#post523445)

I'd merge the two threads, but the overlapping conversations in the same time period would get confusing.

Sidney
18th July 2012, 18:38
Just another theory to mull over. :nerd::lalala::lazy2:

Artworks
18th July 2012, 19:09
Kerry's work and dedication brings all types of information correct or not? I have no idea, but why is it that we are so quick to make a personal attack, we are all in this maze, and yes not necessary together!

Bill Ryan
18th July 2012, 20:18
the idea of a black hole in the center of our galaxy is not so far fetched if you apply basic pyhsics.

The galaxy spins, all galaxys do, so it's a smart assumption that there must be something in the center creating the centrifugal force required to spin a galaxy.

Yes, there is indeed a black hole at the center of our galaxy... and maybe all galaxies:

http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2002/21feb_mwbh

But there's as much danger of us crashing into the black hole as there is of Planet Earth crashing into the sun (for the same gravitational reasons). And it's about 26,000 light years from us... that's a VERY long way.

WhiteFeather
18th July 2012, 20:32
Why ponder over this peeps. Hey If were gonna go, then were gonna go.

But i have some good news, we 'll be back.

After all we are all energy right?

Thermodynamics - In simple terms, this means that energy cannot be created or destroyed, only converted from one form to another.

And energy can change its form.

But if so, perhaps ill see some of you beautiful peeps on the other side, or even this side of the universe. : )

Hey you never know!

Peace

W.f.

AnthonyBacala
18th July 2012, 23:09
the idea of a black hole in the center of our galaxy is not so far fetched if you apply basic pyhsics.

The galaxy spins, all galaxys do, so it's a smart assumption that there must be something in the center creating the centrifugal force required to spin a galaxy.

Yes, there is indeed a black hole at the center of our galaxy... and maybe all galaxies:

http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2002/21feb_mwbh

But there's as much danger of us crashing into the black hole as there is of Planet Earth crashing into the sun (for the same gravitational reasons). And it's about 26,000 light years from us... that's a VERY long way.

Thank you for always being a great "voice of reason."

Star Tsar
19th July 2012, 01:27
For me this infomation puts Black Sun worship :hail: into better perspective...

http://www.greatdreams.com/solar/black-sun.htm

Thankyou Kerry!

ghostrider
19th July 2012, 02:02
:hail::plook away , look out there, don't pay any attention to whats going on right here on earth. nothing to see , move along , these aren't the droids your looking for. move along. who can stand when a fusion star has an ADD moment ??? Soon the cabals toys won't work and they will be no better off than the rest of us. this seems a bit of a distraction from the real issue , our fusion star could at any moment take down our way of life, and the cabals answer RUN FORREST RUN .. the rest of us , we unite and stand and prepare , they've forgotten the real strength of the human spirit , we are at our best when things are the worst .... we will survive in the end, they will be gone . off to mars or where ever bye bye , better for us.....:p

Fundy Gemini
19th July 2012, 02:42
No matter what the discussion, when it comes to the orchestrations of space, the electric universe science explains it all.

I do believe conventional science will have a hard time continuing the denial as the quality and quantity of the profesionals involved with trying to bring us out of our "enlightened dark ages" grows every year. Just recently in fact, status-quo has been challenged when the convectional currents of our own sun were recorded as being radically slower than what was anticipated. Conventional science can not keep making excuses - our current models DO NOT WORK.

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cloud9
19th July 2012, 03:52
It is known by physicists that 96% of the universe is made up of dark matter and dark energy and only a small percentage of the 4% of universal matter is scientifically proven. Why are the scientific gurus talking about the unknown as gospel and probable belief? Looking into the pool they are swimming in they really don't know what is in the water with them. IMHO

The following link will show the ancestor's logic on this..... http://robertmorningsky.com/page110.html#top

Listen to the CD and read the page. Aboriginal perception !!!!

I need to say that I've been listening to this audios today and they are truly enjoyable. The stories are told as parables or at least I see them that way. Even though I have read and listened to so many scientists and researchers, this is still good food for thought.

Thanks a lot for the link, I hope others would listen too. The audios can be found at the bottom of the page and each one is around 16 min. long. The one called "The Gray project" is really good.

Hervé
19th July 2012, 22:17
My oh my...


You see everyone is focused on the wrong thing, which of course is what they want. They're masters at getting everyone looking in the wrong direction.What a better way than that to attract one's attention in the actual wrong direction of one of these catastrophe thingy and launch everyone into another Nibiru/Elenin fearmongering zetatalk distraction?



However the Base Disk (Black Hole) holding our Galaxy in position below us is the real problem. Well, if it's a "base" disk... it's been there all along...




The speed or movement of the disk is not measurable and because of the angle of approach, it is believed we will skip off its surface several times before entry.
The DJ needs some retraining, me think... "skipping" implies quite a sharp difference in density between media and my understanding of a black hole is that there isn't much matter left in its vicinity... hence NO density, therefore no "skipping," just "suck-in-g."




The last geologic survey pertaining to a complete passage, or one full rotation around the central sun recorded a " World Quake," where all tectonic Plates shifted at the same time. It is believed that this event was caused by a Base Disk Impact.
Wow... that's a survey that took some 200 million years to conduct... and if they can do that, how about the results for TWO rotations to lend credence to the projected manifestation?