9/11 TV Fakery No Planes!(3:10 is of particular importance)

[truth4me]

Another video which if legit is another smoking gun that leads you to believe it was an inside judge. As always you be the judge....

VlQjPOKsaR8

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Forwhat ever reason it's not uploading and I'm sorry about that.

[Forevernyt]

It's been removed from YT I think.

[Earth Angel]

makes me want to see it more when they remove things like that

[WhiteFeather]

If i may interject with this video, being the other one has been removed.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNdXjp8NEEY

[LarryC]

First of all, my shift key is broken so if my punctuation looks weird, that's why.

I heard someone mention the holograph theory almost immediately after 9-11. I can buy that it was a hologram rather than planes and that the building collapses were controlled demolitions -in fact the latter part seems almost certain. The only complication is that they had a list of passengers who allegedly died in these crashes. Were these all faked then -question mark, lol. It's possible I suppose, but that would have involved creating a rather complex script, complete with fake grieving relatives and so forth. Since even some of the 9-11 surviving relatives turned into Truthers, it seems hard to believe they were all hired actors.

I like the theory, as when the guest in the video -didn't catch his name- says that there was no way these planes could have hit the center of the WTCs, especially flown by inexperienced pilots, it makes perfect sense. These were narrow buildings, and it would have been all too easy for one or both of them to miss. However, if this was the case, has anyone come up with a theory about the alleged dead passengers...

[danceblackcatdance]

someone posted a vid here, can't remember who / when, which said that no friends or families had turned up at the airports to meet their relatives / friends of the people of the flights...?

other than that, i watched 'september clues' (recommended, can watch it on YT)... i thought i'd seen / read it all on this topic but that doc *totally* blew me away.... just to add insult to injury there's this lovely item, complete with nose poking out the other side of the building (for those that know about that little physics anomaly):

http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/terminal05/2012/7/10/18/enhanced-buzz-653-1341958464-7.jpg

[Black Panther]

Another video which if legit is another smoking gun that leads you to believe it was an inside judge. As always you be the judge....

VlQjPOKsaR8

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Forwhat ever reason it's not uploading and I'm sorry about that.


It's been removed from YT I think.


makes me want to see it more when they remove things like that


someone posted a vid here, can't remember who / when, which said that no friends or families had turned up at the airports to meet their relatives / friends of the people of the flights...?

other than that, i watched 'september clues' (recommended, can watch it on YT)... i thought i'd seen / read it all on this topic but that doc *totally* blew me away.... just to add insult to injury there's this lovely item, complete with nose poking out the other side of the building (for those that know about that little physics anomaly):

http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/terminal05/2012/7/10/18/enhanced-buzz-653-1341958464-7.jpg

This is the YouTube video, Viking's post on Facebook:

VlQjPOksaR8

Trying to wake up others, 9/11 is imo still a very good one to start with.
And especially building 7 is a good one. No plane and the building came
down free fall speed.

Since 9/11 a lot of things changed. A lot of things to work towards
'their' new world order, but the event has been more important
to wake people up and so the whole event isn't helping 'them',
but helping to rise the global human consciousness.

[WhiteFeather]

Another video which if legit is another smoking gun that leads you to believe it was an inside judge. As always you be the judge....

VlQjPOKsaR8

¤=[Post Update]=

Forwhat ever reason it's not uploading and I'm sorry about that.


It's been removed from YT I think.


makes me want to see it more when they remove things like that


someone posted a vid here, can't remember who / when, which said that no friends or families had turned up at the airports to meet their relatives / friends of the people of the flights...?

other than that, i watched 'september clues' (recommended, can watch it on YT)... i thought i'd seen / read it all on this topic but that doc *totally* blew me away.... just to add insult to injury there's this lovely item, complete with nose poking out the other side of the building (for those that know about that little physics anomaly):

http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/terminal05/2012/7/10/18/enhanced-buzz-653-1341958464-7.jpg

This is the YouTube video, Viking's post on Facebook:

VlQjPOksaR8

Trying to wake up others, 9/11 is imo still a very good one to start with.
And especially building 7 is a good one. No plane and the building came
down free fall speed.

Since 9/11 a lot of things changed. A lot of things to work towards
'their' new world order, but the event has been more important
to wake people up and so the whole event isn't helping 'them',
but helping to rise the global human consciousness.

Thanks BP for tracking this down. Seems like their NWO plan is just about to blow up in their face. Sorry but No pun intended. Ohh and Karmas gonna be a bitch.

[danceblackcatdance]

That vid is part of this doc, worth watching if u get time... love to know thoughts on it

gORu-68SHpE

[VirgoSun79]

That makes so much more sense now! It explains alot actually, like the lack of all those vital things you need to when a plan crash: wreckage, bodies, blood, you know....evidence of an actual crash :rolleyes: The only thing we have surviving from the planes that crashed into the towers was a magical passport by one of the *cough*hi-jackers*cough* that made it down to the ground :wacko:
If I'm remembering correctly none of the bodies have ever been returned to the families right?

This theory makes so much sense now! Wow!

[Lifebringer]

This is one of the videos i actually saw and knew that it was an inside job. Of course they took it off. People are waking up to their schemes. I saw the one with the Pentagon missile that the marine said was coming in and Cheney was there and went into a bunker and didn't tell them to fire on it or intercept it. Shame this same marine is dead now. He's as dead as the marine who reported that the live nukes were being transported by plane headed out of the country and they caught the cargo in Louisiana. He is dead from a "car accident" two months after he reported it.

Let's get em. WAR CRIMES in a court trial will stop them from terrorizing the world and put them on the defense of their deeds and keep the world safe. WHERE IS THE HAGUE WHEN YOU NEED IT?

God I'm weary of all they get away with. And as they say in Revelation the souls cry out for justice and God delivered justice for them.

Hang on to your patootie, the road's about to get real bumpy on the way to prosecution of these 4th reich wolves in American clothing.

See them in cuffs people, see them in cuffs before a world court and the gavel coming down for their sentencing. They're already talking about public hangings of bankers in EUK.

Let it be so.

[Mulder]

There was no plane that hit the Pentagon or building 7. I do believe that 2 planes hit the WTC towers and these planes were radio controlled military planes. The civillian planes were flying later that day and were reporting back to base through automated ACAR system. Peter Eyre said this at 1.31 on 18th July "Whistleblower radio"

[Oouthere]

Just because someone talks a good game or shows how video changes when switched between formats does not mean planes did not hit the towers. Do all aspects add-up on 9/11....no.

An engine was found on the street away from WTCs as well as other major parts.

http://911review.org/_webimages/wtc/5248.JPG

http://911review.org/_webimages/wtc/ny_wtc_588p-th.JPG

http://911review.org/_webimages/wtc/tre_engine.jpg

http://911review.org/_webimages/wtc/pp0.JPG

http://911review.org/_webimages/wtc/tire1.JPG

Rich

[danceblackcatdance]

does that pic above look like a Boeing engine ??

its tiny...

http://www.staero.aero/images/service/80000011_4.737-Engine_250dpi_cmyk(3).jpg

besides, jet fuel doesn't burn hot enough to melt steel - end of!!

oh my god... I'm getting sucked in again, must... resist... :o

[Sierra]

Yes, and a plane engine was found on the ground outside the Pentagon as well. Problem was, it was entirely the wrong kind of engine for the plane that supposedly flew into the Pentagon.

[Oouthere]

Yes it does fit. I've looked-up the parts and counted the blades, it is a RB-211 engine from a 757 (http://www.911-strike.com/engines.htm).

I probably should have put-up more info. The turbine is from the rear of the engine, it has been awhile since I counted the blades but it is one of the last three in the engine.

Rich

[Oouthere]

Dance,

I do believe the WTC's were demo'd, but planes did hit. I also believe the plane that was shot down over Shanksville was intended to impact WTC7 but the military did not follow protocol and did what was right.

Rich

[Sierra]

Some discussion on the 737 versus 757 engines. A quote from the second link:

"They are all jet engine components (past and present) on the A-3 Skywarrior twin-turbojet airplane and on older versions of the 737. The USAF only has a few of the A-3s left in operation and what was formerly Hughes Aircraft, now Raytheon, has a fleet of them at Van Nuys, Calif. This type of turbojet engine has never been used on a Boeing 757, so the debate on "type of plane" can end there. This is a jet engine component with fan, not an auxiliary power unit (APU) as some have speculated or dropped into the conversation as disinformation."

http://rense.com/general63/hiding.htm

http://rense.com/general63/ident.htm

[Oouthere]

Rense is also full of it.....

This shows the RB211 engine in the 757 specification. (http://www.boeing.com/commercial/startup/pdf/historical/757f_perf.pdf)

Didn't mean to have people waste so much time on the above link, but it's page three around the middle column.

Rich

P.S. Just so you know, I've been kicked out of both pro-official story and anti-official story chat rooms. Just ask for evidence to back up the claims. Then ask yourself, "Am I looking for truth?" or "Am I looking for any story that's anti-official story because I do not like the government?"

Look for truth. A friend that is an ex-Navy seal borrowed my 911 binder to show around. His neighbor saw the info and said we've lost the united stated. They found him dead the next day. If a revolution were to start are you willing to put a bullet through someone's head based on an unsubstantiated rumor?

I am indirectly responsible for that man killing himself, I had the WRONG engine information in that binder. This is very personal to me.

[RMorgan]

I´m 99.9% sure that 9/11 was an inside job.

However, I´m not sure about this CGI airplanes hypothesis.

Anyway, the best way to know is to contact any witnesses who may have actually seen these planes with their own eyes.

This forum has lots of members. I´m sure someone here might know someone who witnessed this incident, who may be able report if he/she saw any planes or not.

Raf.

[danceblackcatdance]

in my utterly humble opinion... you are doing yourselves a gross disservice if you don't watch the 'september clues' video.....

then again i can totally understand the tendency of an ostrich to put its head in the sand...

i'm out... cya on the other side!

[Oouthere]

I think most people post what they truly believe, I also believe "they" love it when far fetched ideas are thrown into the mix in order to make us weaker as a group. Education and honesty to ones self is what will allow us to survive. IMO, any other path will allow us to be manipulated very easily into whatever agenda is desired.

Rich

[Spartacus]

This looks like an aircraft to me.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSDfbm8OhCg&feature=related

[Whiskey_Mystic]

I'm impressed by this footage. I maintain that no amount of evidence at this point will convince those who buy the terrorist story, but it is good analysis.

[Oouthere]

Susan Lindauer worked for the CIA and was the second non-Muslem to be imprisoned under the patriot act. She tells of prior knowledge of using aircraft as weapons and states that at least some of the people named worked with the CIA. This is really worth listening to……
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=EavsvUn7QT8


Rich

[truth4me]

This looks like an aircraft to me.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSDfbm8OhCg&feature=relatedthat is a good video......

[jimmer]

in honor of all those massacred lives, truthers should take their thumbs out of their a**es
and put it in their mouths, were it belongs.

and while you're at it, go out and do something constructive.

[Prodigal Son]

This looks like an aircraft to me.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSDfbm8OhCg&feature=related

Maybe you already know this because it has been widely discussed in 911 theory, that this aircraft had a missile pod mounted on the right side of the underbelly of the fuselage, and it clearly fired something into the building just before making impact. This excellent video you have posted shows it quite nicely. The Naudet Brothers video of the north tower hit shows an identical flash just before impact.

Both of these aircraft hit perfectly at brand new data centers that had raised floors filled with "battery back up units" that were never turned on. It's plausible that whatever these aircraft fired from these missile pods ignited whatever was in those pseudo-batteries and blew the cartoon-cutout in the perimeter walls to allow these planes to enter with no resistance.

We all know that in the real world, hollow aluminum aircraft bodies cannot penetrate the outer perimeter steel columns of a building like this as if they were cardboard. Something is amiss. If this is what happened, it could explain how we could have seen the nose come out the other side unscathed. Everything was cleared out of its way before impact.

I think the "no-planes" theory including holograms shrouding missiles was invented by people who knew that what they saw didn't make sense and were wildly postulating. I did this myself. But it just doesn't make sense. Remote controlled retrofitted 757's with some type of steel-cutting technology would make a lot more sense imo.

[Prodigal Son]

in honor of all those massacred lives, truthers should take their thumbs out of their a**es
and put it in their mouths, were it belongs.

and while you're at it, go out and do something constructive.
It does a far greater disservice to those massacred lives to let the real murderers go unpunished while we blindly accept tales of CIA operatives running the operation with cell phones from their caves.

What does it tell you that we never saw Bin Laden's (I mean Tim Osman's) body, but the entire special forces team that allegedly killed him were themselves all killed?

Who benefits from 911? The military-industrial complex, run by the banksters. Who loses? Anyone who was formerly protected by the Constitution, so respectfully referred to as that "goddammed piece of paper" by the Commander-in-Thief.

There's nothing more entertaining than a good Co-Incidence Theory, but it would be far more constructive to either stop being a lemming and doing something to expose the cabal responsible, or to leave those who have the courage to question the official story alone to try and save the planet. I can't think of anything more constructive than that.

[Fred Steeves]

They're already talking about public hangings of bankers in EUK.


I sure hope not Lifebringer. Even if we could somehow separate the good, bad, and in between bankers, that could turn real messy, real fast. Is that how we want to introduce our kids to this new era of peace, by going to the big public hanging every Saturday afternoon? Bring a blanket to spread out, a picnic lunch, and maybe even win the raffle to get junior's picture taken while pulling the lever on the gallows.

I know you're not saying all that, and I'm not trying to put words in your mouth, but it's human nature. Isn't that what we're trying to change?

Cheers,
Fred

[Oouthere]

I once believed in the pod theory as well. I do not have time to find the documentary but it explained about how the paint scheme made it appear like a pod. The flash could be static electricity discharging, who knows how many volts would be carried in airframe and one would never know. Remember these aircraft can taking a lightening strike (man thousands of volts and not be damaged). Even as good of an insulator as rubber is, the touching of the wheels at landing discharges voltage. This stored voltage is also why a ground is required while refueling the aircraft.

But anyway, two metal objects with thousands of volts difference coming in contact could make for interesting viewing....

Rich

[noxon medem]

..
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It might be (again)
Wise to separate the first and second "impact" on wtc 2 and 1 .

The first came unprepared (on the general public) and anything could have happened ...
The second was watched by many, since a tower was burning from an explotion ..

Note that the second plane hits more off-centre of its designated tower, than the first.
( Some debris is necessary in there, to make it credible ..).

There are credible reports on heavy "things" being moved into, and around in the
upper flores of the wtc buildings in days (and nights) prior to 11th of septemper 2001.
( - so what was it ? A beacon, weapon, enginge, o.a.)

This topic, like most, have been discussed at this forum before. Look in archives (search).
( or some veterans may do the job for you ..)

Thank you for this new information.
Let us make the 11th aniversary of this tragic event
a grand reply, and a kick upwards, since there is
no obvious force from above judging these crimes.

Be well

..
-

[ghostrider]

I noticed something in the 9-11 video, can't believe I didn't think of this while watching it. The bomb went off, and smoke came out of the tower, notice the smoke doesn't behave like normal smoke. IT is supposed to go up , heat rises cold air falls. This smoke seemed to have some kind of force pushing it down , keeping it from going up. I think it may have been the space based weapon ( star wars - molecular dissassociation ) . Much like the wave of a magnet pushing down , take a look and see for yourself pay attention where and how the smoke reacts.

[Cjay]

This looks like an aircraft to me.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSDfbm8OhCg&feature=related

Watch the right wing-tip carefully as it crosses the left edge of the smoke (at 0:15 to 0:16) - the wing-tip disappears. Then as the wing-tip crosses the left edge of the building (at 0:23), the wing-tip disappears again, as if one-third of the wing went "behind" the building.

Aside from that, the plane looks to me like a static image super-imposed on the background. It just doesn't look natural.

[the_flyingboy]

My opinion is that they used not only holographs but energy weapons as well , it made the concrete to dust...

[danceblackcatdance]

This looks like an aircraft to me.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSDfbm8OhCg&feature=related

Watch the right wing-tip carefully as it crosses the left edge of the smoke (at 0:15 to 0:16) - the wing-tip disappears. Then as the wing-tip crosses the left edge of the building (at 0:23), the wing-tip disappears again, as if one-third of the wing went "behind" the building.

Aside from that, the plane looks to me like a static image super-imposed on the background. It just doesn't look natural.

Quite.

You'd also expect some wreckage too from a real plane hitting a concrete and steel building.. Maybe even the fragile wings shearing off.. But nada, the building swallows the 'plane' like it was a ghost...

[Prodigal Son]

The lack of wake vortices at both tower impacts and also the Pentagon speaks volumes.

Personally, I find the "no planes" theory at the WTC kind of hard to swallow and I'm on the fence about it, but except for the lack of debris, this vortex thing seems to be a real smoking gun to support it.

Make of this what you will....

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As for the Pentagon, I've come to the conclusion that the downed light poles were staged to conceal a different approach angle that seems to have ended in a FLYOVER...

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[conk]

This looks like an aircraft to me.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSDfbm8OhCg&feature=related

Watch the right wing-tip carefully as it crosses the left edge of the smoke (at 0:15 to 0:16) - the wing-tip disappears. Then as the wing-tip crosses the left edge of the building (at 0:23), the wing-tip disappears again, as if one-third of the wing went "behind" the building.

Aside from that, the plane looks to me like a static image super-imposed on the background. It just doesn't look natural.

Can aluminum wings slice through a mega strong steel structure? The plane seems to just melt into the building, like a good magic illusion.

[bluestflame]

would a hand held laser pointer reveal a hologram by shining straight through it ? ( would you need binoculars to see it clearly enough to tell?

[Conchis]

This looks like an aircraft to me.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSDfbm8OhCg&feature=related

If you look carefully at 0:24 you an still see the corner of the building through the right wing of the plane. And as was also pointed out...the right wing sort of disappears into the smoke before the plane makes it to where the smoke is. This footage just has an odd look to it.

[sigma6]

in my utterly humble opinion... you are doing yourselves a gross disservice if you don't watch the 'september clues' video.....

then again i can totally understand the tendency of an ostrich to put its head in the sand...

i'm out... cya on the other side!

I second that 100%, of all the videos on 911, September Clues is the one that sticks out in my mind the most. No video so clearly exposes how embedded the media is in blatantly misrepresenting themselves to the public. How they are completely lying to the public, they are doing it knowing, willingly and with complete avarice...


It exposes the following in stunning clarity,

- the timing of the independent "black outs" on CNN and Fox
- the 'in out nose cone' of a 'Boeing 767' flying into the building coming out on the other side intact! when it should have crumpled like tin foil
- the "mysterious ball" ... televised and then completely ignored by the media !!!??? (10:00)
- loads more... a must see...

All this video is taken from actual television news footage, material that was displayed to millions and millions and millions of viewers... It makes for an excellent case study, very much like re-watching a magic trick, with all the secrets revealed.

To the people that may find this hard to believe, consider this: If people couldn't be deceived, if they didn't mis-perceive what is in front of their own eyes, there wouldn't be ANY magic tricks, but the fact is there are millions of magicians the world over. This is proof and testament that people do NOT accurately perceive what is presented in front of their eyes. And September Clues operates on this premise and exposes this very, very clearly.

It also answers the question, why the aircraft photographed appeared to have something "attached" to the bottom of the hull. Again this is actual televised footage (like all the footage in September Clues) was screened to millions of people on TV. And it is the answer that has to be the most accurate and compelling and comprehensive explanation that leaves nothing out.

Then there is approx 10 seconds of televised footage of what appears to be a "mysterious orb" heading toward one of the buildings. This was immediately removed from circulation and NEVER explained or mentioned again on television!!! It is clearly explained in this video and found to be related to the "mysterious object" under the plane...

It turns out these 'hollywood story tellers' in their need to do things 'live' (or as close to live as possible, as they actually operate on a 17 (or 22?) sec delay in live news production, which will also be explained) Because of this, they were pushing the limits of their technology, and ended up making some really JUICY MISTAKES that couldn't be caught even with the extra delay, clearly exposing what was going on... to an educated or trained eye) What they expose are unmistakable characteristics of well known digital video manipulation techniques.

Things which clearly couldn't happen in a real material physics world and have no other explanation otherwise. And the 'media personalities' are the 'circus announcers' designed to make it all sound so 'real'.

I guess we should be so lucky that 90% of all the initial and publicized eye witness accounts were from people who worked for the major media companies or friends and relatives of people who worked for the major media companies... can you imagine how lucky we all are to have such good fortune... (LOL) - Don't be distracted by any vids that are debunking this video, this is a direct attack on the media, done very reasonably and accurately but clearly exposing the media for a bunch of self serving propaganda agents. How far it goes up is anyone's guess, but it looks pretty obvious. So naturally there will be media attempts at debunking this... it simply exposes too much, things which can't be refuted...

After all, it makes the media look like a bunch of ivory tower, self serving scumbags, that wouldn't hesitate to lie to your face for a dollar bill. Do you think they could even pretend to ignore it? But on the other hand they can't possibly attack it publicly either. The debunking videos are weak minded and meaningless. One has to question why someone would so vehemently go through so much trouble to debunk just one tiny aspect by misintepreting it and blowing it out of proportion while ignoring the other 90% of the video... just more mindless media BS foisted on us to look like private individuals imo...

Watch September Clues at least 3 times!
Stop the video and replay any scenes you need to as many times as necessary as they pack a lot of information into this NO FLUFF hard hitting presentation.

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It is very encouraging to note that if you do a Search on YouTube and filter for 'greater then 20 min' on "September Clues" I have seen over over 40 full length versions in the first 3 pages!!!! I would encourage everyone to watch the lesser promoted videos and share them with as many people as possible.

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

The "Orb" theory always seemed a bit silly to me. I thought it was quite obvious from the beginning that the ropey quality of the footage was at fault here. At that distance with VHS details are lost to a blur of noise.

For a detailed analysis of this footage, which pretty much clears it up once and for all, you need to watch this:
http://www.richplanet.net/rp_genre.php?ref=108&part=1&gen=2

[ThePythonicCow]

For a detailed analysis of this footage, which pretty much clears it up once and for all, you need to watch this:
http://www.richplanet.net/rp_genre.php?ref=108&part=1&gen=2
Awesome - thanks!

This provides a much more persuasive analysis of what we know about the "plane" that hit the second tower.

[EYES WIDE OPEN]

The "Orb" theory always seemed a bit silly to me. I thought it was quite obvious from the beginning that the ropey quality of the footage was at fault here. At that distance with VHS details are lost to a blur of noise.

For a detailed analysis of this footage, which pretty much clears it up once and for all, you need to watch this:
http://www.richplanet.net/rp_genre.php?ref=108&part=1&gen=2

I emailed rich (one of many who did) to say he was wrong right after he put out the "ball" video. Glad to see he has the integrity to admit he was wrong. Many could learn from his example. He is a good man.