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Vitalux
19th July 2012, 19:59
For those that wish to be aware, this video will be quite enjoyable
For those that wish to thrive in their reality of fear, might wish to view a different thread.
http://vimeo.com/30784674
Myself, I seem to be following a ripple of awareness that is similar to the ripple of dropping a pebble on the surface of a pond and watching the ripple expand.
I am able to understand this as I see it in other members of Avalon as well, for it is wonderful to join up with you.
http://www.geometrycode.com/wp-content/uploads/img/sg/metatrons_cube.gif
greybeard
19th July 2012, 20:09
Looking forward to watching this--- I find Nassim very upbeat and believable.
Thanks Vitalux
Chris
ThePythonicCow
19th July 2012, 21:27
For those that wish to be aware, this video will be quite enjoyable
For those that wish to thrive in their reality of fear, might wish to view a different thread.
There may be other reasons, besides fear, that some might wish to view a different thread.
Some of us, myself included, might consider Nassim's "science" to be bunk. I am listening to him as I write this, verifying that Nassim is still the Nassim with whom I have previously disagreed. Search for posts by myself, with the word "Nassim". It would not help for me to repeat myself here.
Enjoy the show -- I'll be seeing some of y'all on other threads :).
Vitalux
19th July 2012, 22:14
For those that wish to be aware, this video will be quite enjoyable
For those that wish to thrive in their reality of fear, might wish to view a different thread.
There may be other reasons, besides fear, that some might wish to view a different thread.
Some of us, myself included, might consider Nassim's "science" to be bunk. I am listening to him as I write this, verifying that Nassim is still the Nassim with whom I have previously disagreed. Search for posts by myself, with the word "Nassim". It would not help for me to repeat myself here.
Enjoy the show -- I'll be seeing some of y'all on other threads :).
Thank you Paul for sharing that with me:tea:.
What I am attempting to do is post threads that allow one to expand their horizons of cosmic awareness.
I understand that there are those that enjoy reading other threads on Avalon that tend to miserably complain about the world around them.
But I believe Avalon is a great community of evolutionary consciousness with positive growth
My goal is not to distract those members from their entertainment, but rather to catch other like minded souls who have an interests in learning some thing positive about the universe around them.
TargeT
19th July 2012, 22:46
Some of us, myself included, might consider Nassim's "science" to be bunk.
I feel its about as realivant as Einstines THEORY of realitivity... perhaps more so. (I don't think its his "science" that you take issue with, more his "leaping to conclusions" right?)
Here's the link to the video:
http://vimeo.com/30784674
truthseekerdan
19th July 2012, 23:01
Some of us, myself included, might consider Nassim's "science" to be bunk...
It might also be a possibility that what we humans call real science it is actually mostly "bunk"...
:)
RMorgan
19th July 2012, 23:17
Some of us, myself included, might consider Nassim's "science" to be bunk.
I feel its about as realivant as Einstines THEORY of realitivity... perhaps more so. (I don't think its his "science" that you take issue with, more his "leaping to conclusions" right?)
Hey mate,
I don´t want to derail the thread, but I just have to say this.
Comparing Nassim with Einstein is a bit outrageous.
There´s a reason Einstein is the most famous scientist in the history of human kind, the iconic model of a genius.
The reason is that he was a huge, big, enormous, gigantic genius. What he did for physics alone, would probably take more than fifty years for all other most brilliant physicists to figure out.
Also, he wasn´t a mainstream guy, in fact he was just the opposite, but he managed to follow every single methodological rule, submitting his work to the most rigorous scientific analysis and reviews, in order to definitively prove his point.
"In science, the term "theory" refers to "a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world, based on a body of facts that have been repeatedly confirmed through observation and experiment.Theories must also meet further requirements, such as the ability to make falsifiable predictions with consistent accuracy across a broad area of scientific inquiry, and production of strong evidence in favor of the theory from multiple independent sources."*
So, an idea, a hypothesis, can´t be considered a scientific theory.
I respect Nassim. He thinks outside the box and have extremely interesting ideas (not theories).
Cheers,
Raf.
*source : wikipedia
Ps: Sorry to interrupt the flow of the thread. I just had to make this observation.
TargeT
19th July 2012, 23:30
["In science, the term "theory" refers to "a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world, based on a body of facts that have been repeatedly confirmed through observation and experiment.Theories must also meet further requirements, such as the ability to make falsifiable predictions with consistent accuracy across a broad area of scientific inquiry, and production of strong evidence in favor of the theory from multiple independent sources."*
So, and idea, a hypothesis, can´t be considered a scientific theory.
.
You're absolutely right! the "theory of realitvity" should NOT (http://www.living-universe.com/living-universe/025-how-einstein-was-wrong-about-E=MC2.html) be called a theory at all, just an idea.
(and it was just the idea of E = MC^2 that I was comparing with the geometry of a black hole & his ideas on that, not the two men)
cloud9
19th July 2012, 23:42
Some of us, myself included, might consider Nassim's "science" to be bunk.
I feel its about as realivant as Einstines THEORY of realitivity... perhaps more so. (I don't think its his "science" that you take issue with, more his "leaping to conclusions" right?)
Hey mate,
I don´t want to derail the thread, but I just have to say this.
Comparing Nassim with Einstein is a bit outrageous.
There´s a reason Einstein is the most famous scientist in the history of human kind, the iconic model of a genius.
The reason is that he was a huge, big, enormous, gigantic genius. What he did for physics alone, would probably take more than fifty years for all other most brilliant physicists to figure out.
Also, he wasn´t a mainstream guy, in fact he was just the opposite, but he managed to follow every single methodological rule, submitting his work to the most rigorous scientific analysis and reviews, in order to definitively prove his point.
"In science, the term "theory" refers to "a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world, based on a body of facts that have been repeatedly confirmed through observation and experiment.Theories must also meet further requirements, such as the ability to make falsifiable predictions with consistent accuracy across a broad area of scientific inquiry, and production of strong evidence in favor of the theory from multiple independent sources."*
So, and idea, a hypothesis, can´t be considered a scientific theory.
I respect Nassim. He thinks outside the box and have extremely interesting ideas (not theories).
Cheers,
Raf.
*source : wikipedia
Ps: Sorry to interrupt the flow of the thread. I just had to make this observation.
With most respect I have to say that even Einstein's work is still called "theory" and so it is most of science today regarding quantum physics and other matters. Even the most advanced scientists have never seen an electron because we don't have the means to do so yet.
Just consider that the majority of scientific concepts, theories and studies about the atom, dark matter, dark energy, etc., are based on a model, not a fact.
What Nassin Haramein does is to connect the dots between ancient and modern science and his concept of the universe is based in observation of nature and old knowledge more than math or physics.
Just as the same as Einstein, perhaps he is not the best mathematician but he is obviously applying common sense and logic rather than formulas. That's his forté as Einstein was his great imagination.
At the end, just time will tell if he was right or wrong but I got the feeling he is closer to the truth with his approach than others scientists who do "submit their work to the most rigorous scientific analysis and reviews" because at the end, do you think those institutions are really qualified to say what's right or wrong?
Are not those who analyze and review scientific work, the ones we say here are hiding knowledge and truths from us? So, why should we trust or believe them ?
In the worse case scenario, at least Haramein is able to think outside the box and challenge "traditional" science. Just for that he deserves some merit... actually a lot!
If he is wrong, I guess history will let us know how far from the truth he was but at least he's taking the risk.
RMorgan
20th July 2012, 00:20
Hey cloud9,
I understand your point and I agree with most of it.
Some branches of science, specially physics, are completely based on theories.
However, I can´t really understand why some people seem to dislike "mainstream science". Without hard (or mainstream) science, we would be living in caves right now.
Submitting a scientific work to rigorous analyzes is extremely important, if not essential.
Wrong calculations or failed theories can kill people. How many astronautics have we sent to space? Theories made it possible; theories which were verified and submitted to all kinds of independent analyses.
As a metaphor, an experimental airplane isn´t used by the public before succeeding endless extremely rigorous tests. Would you and your family travel inside an airplane without being sure that it was successfully tested a thousand times in the most extreme situations?
The same thing works for theories. They need to be tested before being accepted.
Sure, just like this airplane, an established theory may fail or better theories might replace it. The important thing is to do whatever we can to be the most accurate as possible, here and now.
There´s also the human failure factor. If you were diagnosed with a serious disease by a doctor, who wants to open your skull to operate your brain, would you just trust him or would you go to other doctors to hear their opinions? I bet you would go to many doctors.
Any subject submitted to analyzes must be analyzed by different and independent sources before an accurate conclusion can be achieved about it.
Cheers,
Raf.
ThePythonicCow
20th July 2012, 00:30
(I don't think its his "science" that you take issue with, more his "leaping to conclusions" right?)
Not sure what you mean by his "leaping to conclusions" ...
Search back for my comments on Nassim to see what I mean, such as several posts of mine on this page http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?41752-Nassim-Haramein-Fraud-or-Sage , and links in the first post #61 on that page to earlier posts of mine.
ThePythonicCow
20th July 2012, 00:37
It might also be a possibility that what we humans call real science it is actually mostly "bunk"...
Yup - that too - agreed.
cloud9
20th July 2012, 01:03
Hey RMorgan,
I also agree and understand what you're saying somehow...
regarding your analogy about the airplane, the difference is that with quantum physics and atoms, we are still really far away from practical works with them or so we believe, right?
In any case, I'm not saying Haramein is the king of truth but I do respect anybody who is courageous enough to say publicly what they believe, after all most of our science is the accumulation of work from many men, so far no one of them has had the whole truth and probably neither Nassim but every contribution is important.
Einstein was the genius he was because he dared to see beyond what the rest of scientists and humanity were seeing and so Haramein does.
For some reason, when I listen to him it makes sense to me, it's like: yeah.... I know. But I understand why Paul, you and others disagree, I think mostly because all of you are looking at the numbers but I'm looking (listening) to the concept but it's fine if we disagree.
ThePythonicCow
20th July 2012, 01:06
By agreeing that conventional science is bunk, I don't mean it's all wrong, but rather that it is a lobotomized subset of the truth ... sufficient for some great technical accomplishments, but discouragingly short of the truth.
By disparaging Nassim's "science", I am not concerned that Nassim is thinking outside the box of conventional science. I remain convinced that the truth does indeed lie outside that box. But just because something is outside the box, and just because the truth lies outside that box, doesn't mean that something (Nassim's "scientific" work) is the truth. Just because the answer is known to be unconventional, doesn't mean that any particular unconventional claim is part of the answer.
See my links ... mentioned above.
cloud9
20th July 2012, 01:45
By agreeing that conventional science is bunk, I don't mean it's all wrong, but rather that it is a lobotomized subset of the truth ... sufficient for some great technical accomplishments, but discouragingly short of the truth.
By disparaging Nassim's "science", I am not concerned that Nassim is thinking outside the box of conventional science. I remain convinced that the truth does indeed lie outside that box. But just because something is outside the box, and just because the truth lies outside that box, doesn't mean that something (Nassim's "scientific" work) is the truth. Just because the answer is known to be unconventional, doesn't mean that any particular unconventional claim is part of the answer.
See my links ... mentioned above.
Well Paul, if you read my post, I don't say Nassim has the truth because I really don't know, I lack the "knowledge" to prove or disprove it. I've read your posts before and I know where you are coming from but give the guy a break, he's a man who has been thinking about this his whole life and he's still young so who knows... we'll wait and see...
Vitalux
20th July 2012, 02:07
I suppose some dialogue about this subject would be good.
We all have different stages of awareness, and we each live in our own separate reality.
We only know what we are taught, so if what we are taught is false, than all we serve is an advocacy instrument of ignorance.
Point to Ponder:
1. For those of you that might be aware, Scientist estimate that about 97% of the of the universe is undetectable by the scientific method.
re: dark energy/dark matter (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_energy)
2. The scientific method is the study of matter. Hence, if it does not involve matter, science tends to proclaim it does not exist.
Therefore, any thing we have been taught in school or science represents less than 3% of knowledge of our universe.
bearing the above information, one would have to be quite arrogant, to proclaim an understanding of anything.
If you wish to have some understanding what I am trying to convey, give me another 20 minutes of your life to watch the below video by Ingo Swann.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0LDdcHa8Gw
and
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acYZnjnd4Ck
You have nothing to lose, but time....but will gain something perhaps of value.
phillipbbg
20th July 2012, 04:24
Interesting how everyone has discussed everything except the content of the video...
no one has it seems taken the time to write any form of factual opinion on its content for or against.
Interesting how this occurs so often these day, seems we all have our own emotional agenda's to push.
Anyway as I have not watched the video yet I have become the same as everyone else... ho hum
Vitalux
20th July 2012, 13:42
Interesting how everyone has discussed everything except the content of the video...
no one has it seems taken the time to write any form of factual opinion on its content for or against.
Interesting how this occurs so often these day, seems we all have our own emotional agenda's to push.
Anyway as I have not watched the video yet I have become the same as everyone else... ho hum
Every so often I do get some very much and appreciated feedback from videos or books that I post.
Many do gain some insight or perspective from the things that I post, and that is what motivates me to continue to do so.
I agree with your observation though, there are those that troll the posts like participants at the Jerry Springer show.
Every so often I catch useful information from Avalon that I really find interesting, however much of it I find is just doom, gloom and complain miserably about the world around them.
Shame really, because there is so much positive things to see and experience.
http://img.ehowcdn.com/article-new/ds-photo/236/238/fotolia_1032853_XS.jpg
cloud9
20th July 2012, 18:32
Interesting how everyone has discussed everything except the content of the video...
no one has it seems taken the time to write any form of factual opinion on its content for or against.
Interesting how this occurs so often these day, seems we all have our own emotional agenda's to push.
Anyway as I have not watched the video yet I have become the same as everyone else... ho hum
When I talk about Haramein's ideas is because I've heard the guy quite a few times, I've been listening to him since some years ago. What can i say? I feel his theories make sense, they actually seem based in common sense, that's why I think he's closer tan many to the truth.
We know that everything in the universe is related and he is attempting demonstrate it mathematically, also the idea of the vacuum or space being what shapes the matter is absolutely important, so far science has been studying matter bu nobody has paid attention to the space in between everything, isn't it incredible when the whole universe is mostly space?
But that's how we tend to do things, based in our narrow perceptions, what we think is the most important, it usually isn't.
More than 20 years ago I took metaphysics class that was so incredible and ahead of its time my jaw dropped many times, it was a real eye opener. In any case, in that class they told us that the space or vacuum is the glue than holds everything together and that all energy, matter and possibly spirit came from it. Many students didn't accept it but it made a lot of sense to me!
greybeard
20th July 2012, 18:56
Have watched the video now and while I dont understand the science well enough to comment on that---- the common sense approach is rational and appeals to me.
His dedication-- obsession to find the answers is to be applauded.
Also interesting is the flower of life and of course the etching by possibly laser of diagram into ancient stone slabs.
While many scientists disagree with his work quite a few dont.
Quite a few Scientists are saying we live in a conscious universe--- and that we pulse in and out of existence every milli second.
David Sereda-- astrophysicist says that the black hole in the galactic centre is not just devouring matter its creating it and that would seem to confirm Nassim's view.
Im not going to post David Sereda video yet again but if you do a u tube search for
him on David Sereda coast to coast am 2012 energies--- you will get another understandable insight into astro physics.
Chris
Vitalux
20th July 2012, 19:38
Thanks for watching greybeard.
Like all information I think the first time we see information presented, we absorb some of it, and then we are more able to comprehend it into the future as we are reintroduced to it.
What I found was incredible was the part in the video that talks about that actual mass of dark matter in terms of grams/ cm^3.
For me, once I started to understand that, then it helped me to realize just how our foundations of both science in the cosmos is based on false or severely flawed models.
Most lectures that I have witnessed about Dark energy/ dark model fail to really admit that their models to start with are severely flawed. Instead of throwing away the models, they try and just elude to ways to help support their out dated models.
I found Nassim Haramein quite refreshing and worth listening too.
I appreciate the fact that he has given us a fairly comprehensive explanation of both his hypothesis and at a rate where we can actually understand what he is trying to convey.
http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/comment/8/2010/12/6f8fbd3492f9c28aa78b59f1b2d28373/340x.jpg
araucaria
20th July 2012, 20:01
It has “been repeatedly confirmed through observation and experiment” that when a person “dies”, that is the last that is heard of them. Hence the theory that they no longer exist.
It has “been repeatedly confirmed through observation and experiment” that “the Sun’s gravity emanates from its instantaneous true position, as opposed to the direction from which its light seems to come” (van Flandern) Hence the theory that... gravity exceeds the speed of light.
Uh oh!
cloud9
20th July 2012, 20:19
Have watched the video now and while I dont understand the science well enough to comment on that---- the common sense approach is rational and appeals to me.
His dedication-- obsession to find the answers is to be applauded.
Also interesting is the flower of life and of course the etching by possibly laser of diagram into ancient stone slabs.
While many scientists disagree with his work quite a few dont.
Quite a few Scientists are saying we live in a conscious universe--- and that we pulse in and out of existence every milli second.
David Sereda-- astrophysicist says that the black hole in the galactic centre is not just devouring matter its creating it and that would seem to confirm Nassim's view.
Im not going to post David Sereda video yet again but if you do a u tube search for
him on David Sereda coast to coast am 2012 energies--- you will get another understandable insight into astro physics.
Chris
yes, the universe is creating itself all the time, the big bang theory just doesn't hold water... life is eternal in the sense that it renews itself permanently. Just look at the cracks in the pavement, as soon as there is any favorable condition, life begins to appear.
The earth regenerates itself also so I don't believe is dyeing, perhaps it's a little beat up but still very much alive!
We come to life to experience whatever and then feed the vacuum with the information we got so the vacuum takes the information and uses it as feedback to the universe (us) again and again, the eternal cycle of life.
Vitalux
20th July 2012, 20:37
yes, the universe is creating itself all the time, the big bang theory just doesn't hold water... life is eternal in the sense that it renews itself permanently. Just look at the cracks in the pavement, as soon as there is any favorable condition, life begins to appear.
The earth regenerates itself also so I don't believe is dyeing, perhaps it's a little beat up but still very much alive!
We come to life to experience whatever and then feed the vacuum with the information we got so the vacuum takes the information and uses it as feedback to the universe (us) again and again, the eternal cycle of life.
Did you watch the entire video at the beginning of this thread? Just trying to understand the source of your inspirational observations. :o
Mark
20th July 2012, 20:42
the newest theory i've seen by physicists change the idea of the big bang.
now, it is different parallel universes, ensconced in these sheaths called 'branes, that collide and overlap and create the conditions they used to attribute to the big bang.
so, essentially, a new universe is created out of the collision of two older ones. kind of like that tv series, Fringe.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFrcw62Sh-8
161803398
20th July 2012, 20:48
He is trying to see things as a whole. At the moment, our thinking is plaqued by the idea of separateness. The doctors do it when they diagnose their patients. Without seeing disease as a whole every separate item gets a separate prescription...which is good for the pharmaceutical companies. Criminal Courts in America do it with "stacking" which results in people getting 200 year sentences. Lawyers even do it with their bills which results in making more money. I think there is probably a long list of items which could be improved for people if we started stopped dissecting things and creating boundaries.
Vitalux
20th July 2012, 21:23
He is trying to see things as a whole. At the moment, our thinking is plaqued by the idea of separateness. The doctors do it when they diagnose their patients. Without seeing disease as a whole every separate item gets a separate prescription...which is good for the pharmaceutical companies. Criminal Courts in America do it with "stacking" which results in people getting 200 year sentences. Lawyers even do it with their bills which results in making more money. I think there is probably a long list of items which could be improved for people if we started stopped dissecting things and creating boundaries.
I've studied a great deal of models of the universe.
When I watched this video, it brought so many things together.
I am now a huge fan of Nassim Haramein. :cool:
a rare jewel to find :hungry: for food for thought.
How did you enjoy the video?
It is totally mind blowing to think that the mass of the vacuume of space ie dark matter is 5.1 x 10^93 grams per centimeter cubed.
or
each cubic centimeter of empty space if you were to put it on a balance and weigh it would weigh
51 000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 grams
or
51000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 metric tons
http://video.ecb.org/badger/download/vlc/images/VLC107_Cubic_centimeter.jpg
cloud9
21st July 2012, 01:50
yes, the universe is creating itself all the time, the big bang theory just doesn't hold water... life is eternal in the sense that it renews itself permanently. Just look at the cracks in the pavement, as soon as there is any favorable condition, life begins to appear.
The earth regenerates itself also so I don't believe is dyeing, perhaps it's a little beat up but still very much alive!
We come to life to experience whatever and then feed the vacuum with the information we got so the vacuum takes the information and uses it as feedback to the universe (us) again and again, the eternal cycle of life.
Did you watch the entire video at the beginning of this thread? Just trying to understand the source of your inspirational observations. :o
Yes, I watched it. It's always a pleasure to hear him. He asks: What are you when you are in the vacuum? This is a very important question not just for him, what he says is that we vibrate appearing and disappearing (literally) from the vacuum to the physical world at high speed, actually close to the speed of light because all the information
we feed to the vacuum is creating our immediate future, that's the process of creation and co-creation.
Obviously during whatever amount of "time" we spend in the vacuum on those intervals while appearing and disappearing we are not physical, we are just "vacuum" too, so who are we then?
Food for thought.
Have you ever read "Conversations with God"? It's not the only book about this subject but it's very good at explaining strange concepts.
Vitalux
21st July 2012, 02:10
Have you ever read "Conversations with God"? It's not the only book about this subject but it's very good at explaining strange concepts.
Is that the book by Neale Donald Walsh?
If it is, I certainly will download it and read it probably early next week.
I like to try and read one or two books a month.
I tend to like what this guy Nassim Haramein tends to speaks about.
I have for the past few years started to throw away my past doctrines of the sciences I believed in.
I actually hold a double degree in both chemical and mechanical engineering.
However, I have discovered that for the most part, all I had learned was to be a parrot.
Now I am relearning it from a new perspective.
thank you :)
cloud9
21st July 2012, 02:17
Actually Conversations with God is three books or volumes, the first one is about personal issues, the second one about the planet and the third one about the universe. After that I highly recommend Home with God, the whole nine yards about the process of dying, very illustrating and funny.
puurfectten
21st July 2012, 03:00
thanks for posting that video..i thought it was great...:))...gonna check him out some more . was actually kinda amazed how well he explains the technical stuff..it was very easy to understand what he was saying...
Vitalux
21st July 2012, 03:12
thanks for posting that video..i thought it was great...:))...gonna check him out some more . was actually kinda amazed how well he explains the technical stuff..it was very easy to understand what he was saying...
YOu are quite welcome.
If you have about 7 hours to relax and take in some good information....watch this video of his too
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xfx_tEN0AkI
Vitalux
21st July 2012, 18:07
i just watched this whole nearly 7 hour video, as posted above.
I will say that some of Nassim Haramein's points are quite interesting.
Some of his predictions have not come to pass, and some of his claims appear to be a bit far fetched.
However, I find Nassim refreshing to listen to, and I believe him to come across as honest as he he is able to as he conveys his beliefs as he sees them.
It takes a great deal of courage to stand up against many mainstream standard beliefs and broadcast ones contrary views to the world.
I applaud this fellow and thank him so much for sharing his view with us.
I enjoy viewing the world as well as the creation of the universe, from others perspectives.
It helps me alter and expand my own understanding of my beliefs.
I also took some time to read and listen to the others that were advocating that Nassim Haramein was a fraud.
But, like all things, I have recently come to discover, that it does not matter what information some one tries to convey to others, there will always be some miserable bastard that will heckle it.
It is the nature of humans.
After all, are we not all stumbling in the dark trying to find truths?
http://i3.makcdn.com/wp-content/blogs.dir//205739/files//2011/08/d988d987d98a-d8aad8aad8add8b3d8b3-d8a7d984d985d8a7d8a1-300x300.jpg
Much love
G
Ilie Pandia
21st July 2012, 20:36
However, I can´t really understand why some people seem to dislike "mainstream science". Without hard (or mainstream) science, we would be living in caves right now.
Submitting a scientific work to rigorous analyzes is extremely important, if not essential.
Wrong calculations or failed theories can kill people. How many astronautics have we sent to space? Theories made it possible; theories which were verified and submitted to all kinds of independent analyses.
This is of course true, however I have an observation to make.
Just like the FDA, the scientific peer review process can and has been used to suppress valid science! At the very lowest levels it is used to defend egos and funding, and at the very highest to discredit the reality of Free Energy and UFOs.
There was another great mind that had different theories from Einstein. And that was Nikola Tesla. My current understand of what I've learned so far, is that Tesla made the mistake of bringing Free Energy to the table (and possibly discussing about ET intelligence). That was a bit too much and so Einstein's theories were more convenient. (Event though Einstein himself was not too convinced, and was very aware of the limitations of his theories). Also the alternative current was widely accepted, even though is not the only form of current that Tesla discovered. Just imagine how different would our world be today if Tesla's full legacy would not have been suppressed.
I appreciate Nassim's work. In my view it is not solid science, but it does the useful job of rocking the boat and asking hard questions, and who knows, maybe some very useful science will spring out of it (Kinda like what happened with Quantum Mechanics - they don't even want to call it physics, just mechanics :biggrin:).
A while ago Nassim's presentations contributed greatly to advancing my understanding of certain subjects, and for that I am grateful.
He reminds me of early math classes where we were taught: 1 - 2 = impossible. Later on we learn that not only is valid math but it equals -1. However at that stage square root of -1 is not possible, only to become possible later on and to result into an "imaginary number". That's funny to talk about imaginary numbers in math :)
So I view Nassim as a possibly necessary intermediate class to a deeper truth (even if what he teaches is not that deeper truth)
NancyV
21st July 2012, 22:53
I’ve always enjoyed Nassim and I loved the reasoning he employs in this video to explain that we live in a black hole universe! LOL… I think he helps a lot of people understand at least how incredibly complex are space, time and matter. I also enjoyed his 7 hour video which I watched a couple of years ago.
It’s hilarious that instead of accepting infinity as not quantifiable or understandable, physicists have concocted methods of ignoring or rationalizing infinitely small numbers, because they’re so small they can be ignored! hahaha! Then they utilize a sleight of hand method of “renormalizing” infinitely large numbers, called “nasty infinities”, that can not be ignored or rationalized, because they’re too big! The really funny thing is that mainstream physicists accept these methods as tools to explain the unexplainable.
Renormalizing is a method of measuring the unmeasurable by pretending it has a particular mass and using Planck's Constant as a tool for the measurement. Planck's Constant has been used to cut the number to one that can at least be dealt with, although it is still HUGE. Now I’m laughing even more because the entire thing is built on a theory (lie/fantasy/wishful thinking) that depends on ignoring some numbers and reducing other numbers so the theory doesn't break down. These theories mostly sound like gobbledygook if we aren’t mesmerized by the big words and concepts. Of course one can’t help but be impressed with the erudition of physicists who think they’re being scientific about something as unable to be limited and quantified as space/energy/time/gravity/infinity/the material universe/black holes, etc etc.
Nassim, at least, laughs a heck of a lot about his hobby. He’s having fun trying to explain to us in the language of physics what our shared reality might be and to advance our concept of creation. I think he does a good job getting people who would normally not be interested in physics to listen. He’s very entertaining and quite brilliant.
The bottom line is, the creation cannot be fully explained, but it can be experienced. It’s like trying to explain to someone the experience of merging with and becoming the Source. There is no way to prove it or explain it in terms someone will fully understand. But we can tell you that you can merge with the Source and then you will understand infinity (including "nasty infinities"), eternity, creation, oneness and the Source… because it’s who you are.
TargeT
21st July 2012, 23:43
Renormalizing is a method of measuring the unmeasurable by pretending it has a particular mass and using Planck's Constant as a tool for the measurement. Planck's Constant has been used to cut the number to one that can at least be dealt with, although it is still HUGE. Now I’m laughing even more because the entire thing is built on a theory (lie/fantasy/wishful thinking) that depends on ignoring some numbers and reducing other numbers so the theory doesn't break down. These theories mostly sound like gobbledygook if we aren’t mesmerized by the big words and concepts. Of course one can’t help but be impressed with the erudition of physicists who think they’re being scientific about something as unable to be limited and quantified as space/energy/time/gravity/infinity/the material universe/black holes, etc etc.
Planck's Constant could be otherwise thought of as the rate of action or energy or change of an electron changing orbit, there appears to even be mathmatical proof of this now & the implications are very very promising (this is how I know that the E-Cat works, the math now supports it with these new findings) this is all illistrated in a video in the first link of my signature, an amazing thread here on P.A. that I do not think gets enough visibility:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?8797-A-New-Era-in-Physics-Anti-Gravity-Cold-Fusion-Explained-In-Detail--video-series- (A New Era in Physics: Anti-Gravity / Cold Fusion Explained In Detail (video series))
Reguardless your point remains very valid, it's hard to understand the dissonance between how we are told science "works" and how it is actually executed in this bizarre bias manor.
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