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Bright Garlick
20th July 2012, 05:37
Dear Bill and all of my fellow human beings :

I have recently asked to be re-subscribed to this forum for one last post. I am grateful to Astrid, Meeredas and Paul (moderator) for their support and advocacy this last week and to Bill for continuing to create and support the Project Avalon community. I am sorry I upset the status quo among some of you when I was here but it was necessary for me to speak my mind. I write now to share something of great concern, with all of you.

First I would like to address something, so that you understand that I have not tried to deceive any of you. Last year I posted a thread called Your questions for aliens, in which I asked you to submit questions that I would take with me into an upcoming alien contact that I was to have near the end of the year. I selected a small group of questions and had every intention of asking these questions, some questions that I had asked other friends/family privately and 35 plus questions of my own. I informed you that I would post those responses some time after the encounter on my blog. On the due date I had not one but 4 encounters over successive nights. But contrary to what I had 'expected to happen' my friends did not allow me to have a full encounter with them and as such I was only able to ask a small number of questions – including one for my son and one for Colin Andrews. I asked 4 in total. I have not yet written about this experience on my blog and it is my intention to do so when I find the time.

I learned a valuable lesson from this experience. I learned not to expect anything to happen and to be absolutely clear about why I do what I do. My friends explained to me, that it is for others to seek their own answers and not for me to do it for them. They were not trying to be hostile or arrogant but honest and considerate of my well being and your long term best interests. Please also understand that it takes little effort for someone to come up with a question (and many of them were really quite pathetic and ill considered) but a long time for me to go through the questions, collate the best questions, ask the questions and record the experience. It was all very exhausting and much harder and more frustrating than I anticipated. I was disappointed how so many people treated the whole exercise as a joke. But I was grateful to those who took my offer seriously.

Now to the message I wish to share with you.
I have been trying to encourage people to focus their attention on the looming solar threat for some time now. To be aware of it's potential reality. I first began exploring this issue a decade ago and talking about it on the Internet a few years back. Last year I posted a severe space weather petition here : http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/prepare-the-grid-for-severe-space-weather.html . I also considered petitioning my own government directly (as only 1 signature is required here in Australia). I have been unable to pursue either, for numerous reasons - not the least of which was the return of life threatening cancer. Earlier in the year I had 8 tumours and was quickly going down hill (despite my positive attitude !) but my tumours are now shrinking. I am now healing - as I finally began to understand how to heal. Please do not make any suggestions – I am so tired of all these wondrous suggestions, that have nothing to do with attending to the root causes ! As you can imagine, I no longer have the energy to pursue the petition and I now believe it will have limited value anyway - as it is too late to act !

Last January I had a conscious encounter with 2 races of ET's that I/my family have a life time of encounters with : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsXE_uHPKGc&feature=plcp (see parts 1-5). During this encounter I was shown a long stretch of the human future - during which time I was able to see 2 major catastrophe's - a nuclear conflict and a solar catastrophe. I have never been asked by my friends to talk publicly about the encounter or what they showed me but I have slowly felt the need to do so. I was shown what is to come, after I expressed my concerns to each race. They wanted me to know what was coming and to feel safe about this period of transition. I have no memory of them telling me or showing me a specific date for either event but that may have happened. There is still much that I do not remember about this encounter. In addition I received information from a woman (a close friend) who is also an alien experiencer and worked with Earth based ET's – validating the solar catastrophe. Some of you may recall my references to her. She has asked me to delete all references to her from any future communications and so I must keep my details about her very brief.

I have been very concerned about both the solar catastrophe and nuclear conflict(s) and over the last 3 years have looked into the future (using a method she taught me 17 years ago called journeying) and each time I have seen the same thing. She and I do not agree about the nuclear scenario but we see exactly the same solar catastrophe.

Recently an event took place, in which I was informed by a different group of ET's, that they now know that this event is likely to be much more significant for humanity than they previously believed it would be. As a result they suggested that it may be necessary for certain interventions to occur, to reduce the impact. These interventions include interventions directed at the sun (recall those so called comets that hit the sun causing CME's on the opposing side – letting off steam !) and other interventions directed at Earth (including opening dimensional layers connected to Earth, which will diffuse excessive electromagnetic energies/the continued opening of artificial doorways all over the planet – this is my take, not theirs). Pay attention to anomalous impacts with the sun over the next 8-9 months. The impact of the solar catastrophe, will still be very significant for our species. I cannot speak more about this without breaching trust. As it is, I have already crossed that line. I can tell you that this decision has been made by a huge number of representative races – many of whom live in far distant galaxies.

Ultimately this message is preaching to those who have the intelligence to help themselves. Those who I would really like to be able to help, are the millions who experience great poverty and suffering already and not those of us who are privileged. Think about what it will be like for people who depend on food to be shipped into their country and who are already victims of war, dispossession and poverty. And then there are ordinary people in so called developed nations, who have no interest in the 'big picture'. Many of these people will be completely unprepared for the loss of power and all the infrastructure that depends on power. They will be at the complete mercy of community and human behaviour. It is up to those of you who take this message seriously to reach out to others in their time of need !

For those of you, who wonder why ET's don't prevent the event - I believe the answer is 2 fold : Earth needs the energy of such a significant solar storm (I suspect that is related to cyclical processes that keep Earth's molten core active) and the ET's know that humans must find their own way to adapt to solar events in the future. They can only do so much ! We have created this problem and we need to learn how to adapt how we live to an active solar system.

Astrid has met me and I have spoken briefly to her about the solar event. I think she would say I am an honest person with integrity (fingers crossed !). Meeredas is also a good friend and I think he would also say the same. I do not wish to frighten any of you and I will be more than happy for any of you to send me a message in a few years, telling me what a crazy idiot I was, if these events do not come to pass. I have written a little about what I have learned and urge you all to become familiar with what I believe will happen soon (feel free to toss it out if it feels like BS) :


http://otherworldyencounters.wordpress.com/2012/05/28/aliens-and-future-human-catastrophes/

http://otherworldyencounters.wordpress.com/2012/04/10/futurescapes-i-have-known-part-2/

http://otherworldyencounters.wordpress.com/2011/10/05/sun-diving-comets-cmes-and-possible-alien-intervention/

http://otherworldyencounters.wordpress.com/2011/08/20/solar-update-summary-of-nasas-solar-toys-concerns-about-severe-space-weather/

http://otherworldyencounters.wordpress.com/2012/07/10/preaparing-for-a-solar-catastrophe-part-1-knowing-when-its-here/

http://otherworldyencounters.wordpress.com/2011/08/07/2-weeks-after-a-real-solar-super-storm/ .

As for when the solar catastrophe is going to happen – first let me say that I must be crazy to talk about dates. Only a mad man or an idiot puts that kind of noose around his neck ! But I am so concerned about this, I no longer care about my reputation. I have an exact date but I am still doubtful of that myself. Instead I will give you a window of time. I give this to you, so that you have a rough idea how far away such an event lay in our future. So many people have talked about this time of transition and for a long time I have talked against a specific event. But it is clear to me now that the solar catastrophe is the key event in this period of transition, in which there are many significant events.

My gut feeling and my feeling from the time period I have seen is that the solar catastrophe will take place between March-April 2013 and maybe as early as mid February. Exact dates are difficult to pin down, as time is not a fixed entity and time lines break and reconnect and reform, in an infinite number of ways both personally and collectively. When my ET friends recently informed me of their concern that the solar catastrophe would be worse than they first thought (and they means hundreds of thousands of races), I realized that they saw this event from 2 possible perspectives. From one, they could not see exactly what would happen in this collective time line up until recently. Or from the other, they knew all along exactly what would happen but felt we would be more proactive in our response. I suspect the later is true. Some humans have known about the coming solar catastrophe for a long time but little has been done to protect the world power grids.

As it was explained to me, without intervention, humanity would find itself on the brink of extinction; with intervention, much death and suffering will be prevented. But this will still be a catastrophic event for our species – the worst in recorded history. Some in the Powers That Be – in a structure I have called The Architecture, are aware of what is to happen but the general public will remain ignorant. I suspect evidence of such an intervention will slowly come to the fore, over the next few centuries.

Before taking any of this to heart or judging this to be the ravings of a mad man, I urge you all to do your own research - read every piece of research you can, to validate whether or not this risk is real. If you want to start a petition, feel free to borrow from my own petition. It may be worth it, from your perspective ! I know people such as Ed Dames and Courtney Brown have talked about similar things and but my remote viewing friends tell me they don't see this on the horizon. The one person I do trust first saw this event 25 years ago and has confirmed it several times since.

Whilst on Project Avalon I had many critics and I expect that many people will criticise what I am sharing with you. That's OK but please keep your criticism to the PA forum. I will not be responding to this thread at all or to any private messages or emails about what I have said. I do not have the energy to engage with you, if I am to continue healing. I was warned by my ET friends that none of this is good for my health. I have taken this risk because I feel I have to. As a Buddhist I gain nothing from attachment. Every major decision I make is difficult and this choice of action is no different. I am doing this because I care for my fellow human beings and wish to see all beings free of suffering. I will visit the thread from time to time to see how people have responded but I do not wish to say any more after this. In addition I will be finishing blogging on September 1st, to refocus all of my energy on enjoying life !

Over the next 2 weeks I will be writing a series of articles on how to prepare for the coming solar catastrophe. These may be of some use to some of you and meaningless to others. Each to his own. A last point - there are things I wrote about in my PA posts that are related to what I share with you today. For those who want to know more, all that you need is there (for any of you who saved those posts). There are a small group of humans on Earth at this time, using all that they have been given, for the greater good.

I wish you all well for 2012 and beyond !!!

Be happy and be well and know that all that you need is within.

Bright Garlick. :flame: :peace:

gigha
20th July 2012, 05:49
Very happy to see you back Bright Garlick

peace and love gigha

astrid
20th July 2012, 05:54
Thank you Bright for sharing with us this important and timely message.

And may you continue on your path of healing,

many blessings,
Astrid

Lettherebelight
20th July 2012, 06:25
Very good to hear you once again at Avalon, Bright Garlick. Looking forward to your suggestions for this possibility!

Carmen
20th July 2012, 06:34
It's nice to see you back on Avalon, Bright Garlic. The information you share has also been Ramtha's info, and others. As you say, it pays to take an overview and do ones own research. Also, it's great to hear that you are healing! Off grid systems, well protected, are very important to plan and implement.

Bill Ryan
20th July 2012, 06:37
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Copied verbatim from my post here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?46887-From-Bill-Ryan-the-Ultimate-Hypothesis&p=519485&highlight=underground#post519485) -- on the thread From Bill Ryan -- the Ultimate Hypothesis (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?46887-From-Bill-Ryan-the-Ultimate-Hypothesis):





Folks, I rest my case. Listen up. We're being told.

It's now coming at us thick and fast, more each month, in the mainstream media.

Again: what I was informed in writing, by a credible source with a TS clearance -- a gifted physicist whose name most in the alternative media would know, who also told me who he now worked for and reported to -- is that the current expectation was for an 1859-scale event to hit us sometime in the December-January timeframe. I first heard about this from him in October 2007 (believe it or not) -- and then again in March of this year.

He joked that I should "get a lot of sunblock, or better still, go underground" -- and then, more seriously, in response to my questions, said that it was not known to what degree the grid and electronic components would be affected worldwide, but that the scale of the event was expected to exceed the 1859 Carrington Event. [My emphasis]

As I wrote earlier in this thread, he did not say how this detailed forecast was known to the insiders. He apologized for not being able to say more -- implying clearly that he knew more but was constrained by his national security responsibility.

I've been watching this play out, and gathering information (I have quite a lot now). I have no way of verifying any of this, but it looks more and more likely that this is a real situation that could be a very major one. For those of you who have missed it, please read carefully this exchange I had in April 2009 -- which alerted me to the seriousness of an approaching problem that had a lot of engineers very worried.

http://projectcamelot.org/electrical_engineer.html

jackovesk
20th July 2012, 06:47
I for one take heed of such a 'Warning', but will choose to 'Confront' the threat out in the open instead of hiding in some bunker...

I believe 'When your Number is Up your Number is Up' :yes4: and there is nothing whatsoever, you can do about it...:noidea:

Get well soon BG...:thumb:

bluestflame
20th July 2012, 07:00
a good time too detox the bodies in preparation

ulli
20th July 2012, 07:16
I for one take heed of such a 'Warning', but will choose to 'Confront' the threat out in the open instead of hiding in some bunker...

I believe 'When your Number is Up your Number is Up' :yes4: and there is nothing whatsoever, you can do about it...:noidea:

Get well soon BG...:thumb:

Don't be silly, Jacko. It would only mean a few days indoors; it won't last long. Your are needed for the aftermath.
Alive.

Tony
20th July 2012, 07:28
It's always a good time to detox your mind!

ThePythonicCow
20th July 2012, 07:49
From Bill's thread that he quoted above, I posted this response to Vivek (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?46887-From-Bill-Ryan-the-Ultimate-Hypothesis&p=521173&viewfull=1#post521173), which might point out actual, current scientific (well, including a bit of black project science) evidence for what could be happening:






Spiralling towards destruction, the gas cloud heading to the black hole at the centre of the Milky Way at five million miles an hour

Next year will see one of the biggest collisions ever observed by man.

A giant gas cloud will hit the massive black hole - known as Sagittarius A - which lies at the centre of our galaxy in 2013.

Actually, the cloud will miss by quite a distance - 24,000,000,000 miles to be semi-exact - and while this is quite a distance (indeed it takes light 36 hours to travel that far), the tidal forces of the black hole will rip the gas cloud apart.

Wow!

The sun (and the earth) are about 27,000 light years from the center of the Milky Way galaxy. So if we're seeing this now, that means it happened 27,000 years ago.

Whatever came of that near collision and destruction of that gas cloud perhaps sent off an immense wave of energy, outward from the center of our galaxy, that has been speeding it's way toward us, at near light speeds, for the last 27,000 years.

Such an energetic wave could seriously annoy our sun, making for some exciting times here on earth.

Could this be Paul LaViolette's Galactic Superwave (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_autor_laviolette.htm)?


If there are means for even slightly faster than light speed communication over galactic distances, then it would be likely that our "friends in high places" have known of such an incoming energy wave for decades, or longer.

Eram
20th July 2012, 07:58
Thank you Bright Garlick,

For you efforts.
It's obvious that you are very serious about this.

Does any one knows what would be considered a relative safe distance from a nuclear plant when such an event should happen?
Whit a major power outage... I think that these plants will have catastrophical problems like the ones in Japan.

We live at 7,5 miles from one :suspicious:

Any way... interesting times ahead.


Blessings!



edit to add:
I wish you all the best in your healing process.

greybeard
20th July 2012, 08:19
Having watched various videos and listened to audio’s from Coast to Coast Am for over some years and read books like "Mass dreams of the future" and Michael Gordon Scallion's predictions I would say that there is a core essence that points to massive earth changes possibly February March next year linked to a raising of consciousness.
Spiritual teachers quietly saying much the same.
They also say that when you are born the day and time of your earthly demise is set. (so why worry)
I would suggest that this is a time to look closely at you priorities and your relationship with Creator or whatever name you have for God.
It would seem that there is an opportunity for an upgrade of the human species.
Regardless you are not the body but Spirit having a human experience so "ultimately" all is ok.
Whatever you feel the need to do-- do it-- no harm in having extra food and water--- candles -- matches.
It would seem that electricity may not be available.

Being realistic is not being afraid but forewarned and taking appropriate steps as best we can.

Thanks Bright.

Chris

This may help--- David Sereda explains what may happen.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6No8HIzXRlA

Cognitive Dissident
20th July 2012, 08:22
I agree that this is a very important issue. But as I mentioned in another thread, we only have any hope of survival if we shut down the nuclear power plants right around now.

Because in a prolongued power down scenario, it would be very difficult to supply diesel, support personnel, etc., to the hundreds/thousands of nuclear power stations that would be in emergency shutdown but probably fried/damaged and still very hot and radioactive and in need of constant attention, like Fukushima is now. How is possible that all of these nuclear power stations could be maintained safely? Answer: it is not.

But in that case, being in an underground base is not going to help you much, if the surface of the planet becomes radioactive.

The logical approach would be to shut down the nuclear power stations well in advance of the problematic CME, i.e. round about now. You can even use Fukushima as a pretext. Pretty good reason, actually. This is what the Germans have done (although the shut down is fast in nuclear terms it is several years from now I think).

But in general, the nuclear shut down is not happening nearly fast enough.

steveofengland
20th July 2012, 08:50
Regarding Bill's 2009 thread, I got talkin to a guy who worked for a UK electricity company, when I asked him directly about the possible effects of a carrington type event, he just laughed it off saying it can't possibly do any harm to the system.
Obviously this employee has not looked into the possible effects. I would imagine that just about all the people working in this sector have no clue about the ramifications of the damage that could ensue.
I guess its only the higher ups and us that have any idea about this?


Although there is the book "one second after" more info at http://www.onesecondafter.com/
I'm just starting to do my own research into the contiued safe running of nuclear reactors in the event of total power failure, and how they will be cooled during this time.

ThePythonicCow
20th July 2012, 08:58
If there are means for even slightly faster than light speed communication over galactic distances, then it would be likely that our "friends in high places" have known of such an incoming energy wave for decades, or longer.
What's more, if our black ops folks learned of this, from aliens, then they would face the problem of how to keep the rest of us from knowing they were communicating with aliens, while knowing they could not, nor would want to, completely suppress this knowledge, at least amongst themselves and the most powerful humans on this planet.

If our black ops folks had developed even marginally successful telepathic communication, with even a few select particularly talented individuals, then they could engage a few such talented telepaths and communicate to them images and stories that resembled these anticipated future events. This need not actually violate time (as I understand it), just involve actual knowledge of incoming energy at light speed, known to aliens who are near us, by some marginally faster then light communication means, and then told to us humans. The telepathic recipients wouldn't be told that however; they'd be sensing they were simply looking into the future, thus keeping critical black information very secret. What rather expectedly leaked out, over time, would sound like some of our whistleblowers have been telling us.

Unfortunately, my speculation here is not based on any actual experience with any remote or future viewing, nor any personal contact (that I know of) with anyone who has such experience. So it may just reflect my efforts, from a limited mental view, to map what I am hearing into something plausible in my more nearly conventional scientific view. In particular, I have problems with -actually- violating linear time locally, but I can accept aliens in our solar system, human telepathic communication, marginally faster than light communication, and the potential for events at our galactic core to impact us, 27,000 years later.

D-Day
20th July 2012, 09:02
I have made peace with myself and the universe.
I have resigned myself to the fact that whatever will be... will be.
I fear not, for I realize the universal plan is unfolding just as it should be... and all is well ;)
Our human bodies may be temporary, but our spirits are eternal.
I have no desire to hang around here forever anyway... there are other things I must do.
For now though, I look forward with great anticipation to experiencing whatever is around the corner for us... regardless of the outcome.
Interesting times ahead, for sure.

bennycog
20th July 2012, 09:27
thanx bright.. i hope your articles get posted here..
if the et's are trying to dampen the impact from the sun, would higher beings be dampening the impact of a much larger energy, that would give the sun its etreme solar activity?
question for anyone

lookbeyond
20th July 2012, 09:40
I feel ambivalent as my children are young , though ready to leave this hard place to live ,i am not ready to leave my children

lookbeyond

bennycog
20th July 2012, 09:44
totally lookb... we would not leave them though.. just got to keep them close.. and anyone else you could trust

pickle
20th July 2012, 09:45
Hi Bright Garlic. It's great to hear your illness is slipping away, and long may your recovery continue.

I also wanted to give you a huge 'thanks' for your message to us, especially knowing that whilst we should be plugged into our own discernment and respect for one another, there maybe some negative feedback - I hope you continue to share what you can, I really appreciate it.

Thank you, and very best wishes,

Pickle

GlassSteagallfan
20th July 2012, 10:18
Thanks for the post Bright, and glad to hear of your recovery.

Maybe someone with the know-how will post a way to survive the coming storm physically. Is the Faraday Cage revelant here?

This thread is beginning to confuse - a solar event and a wave from the galactic center are two different occurences, aren't they?

Anyway, '2 min news' covers the daily weather of the sun plus other things. Link here: http://www.youtube.com/user/Suspicious0bservers

araucaria
20th July 2012, 10:21
I for one take heed of such a 'Warning', but will choose to 'Confront' the threat out in the open instead of hiding in some bunker...

I believe 'When your Number is Up your Number is Up' :yes4: and there is nothing whatsoever, you can do about it...:noidea:

Get well soon BG...:thumb:

Don't be silly, Jacko. It would only mean a few days indoors; it won't last long. Your are needed for the aftermath.
Alive.


Not sure why we would need to stay indoors for an 1859 type event - no one got fried back then as far as I know

Edit: although any kind of traffic situation could be nasty

miqeel
20th July 2012, 10:28
Thank you for the post Bright Garlic, I hope your health gets better soon. I am in awe of your efforts and the wealth of information presented.

Everything seems to converging towards "an event". I am cool with that. Whatever happens - I am cool with that. All in all, I have no power to change what happens. Inevitable things...
If (or when) the sun decides to show us its "bright side" I will damn sure be there, wearing my sunglasses and a mankini ;) and enjoying the ride:)
Peace and love

778 neighbour of some guy
20th July 2012, 10:42
Thanks Garlic,

Can anybody tell me if the large powerplants/ water installations have back up systems to start up again swiftly in those days should they arrive or will everything get fried just like in our homes?

Bill, did a post regarding protection of electronics in case a CME of massive proportions would occur, but somehow i dont think i will be able to stuff my fridge and washer and pc in a aluminium milkchurn and i dont have room to build anything indoors to do so.

I can see how a couple of two way radio,s can be stuffed in a milkchurn and be usefull afterwards ( if the HAM guys were smart enough to protect their stuff that means) and all sattelites will be fried so having a cell phone would be pretty much useless let alone the internet, but what else thats electronic can be of good survival use that fits in a small enclosed container besides two way radios and a flashlight and some batteries and a crank weather radio?

thanks

Ed

PS.......................

I dont want to be about doom and gloom but when this happens and the power is not restored quickly i can see the following things happen.

no gas stations will function ( pumps wont work)

no supermarkets will be open ( fried cash registers and spoiled foods due to lack of refridgeration)

All transport stops in an instant, when your ignition fries on the road you will get nowhere, no food will be delivered.

All satellites will be out of order as is communication ( except for the military, theu will be afraid too, not good since they have guns).

No food or very little can and will be harvested, tractors run on gas and have electronics in them.

You can not cook the food in your house, if you had any in your pantry that is.

You will be up to your ears in excrement really fast when the toilet does not flush.

People in hospitals............ not good.......... i think you can see why.

You can finish or add to this list as you wish, there must be a lot more than this, i am just saying these thing from the top of my head.

That list will be endless.................God have mercy on the souls of everyone involved... especially air traffic controllers.....


All i can think of is bunkering in with some canned food, candles, a crank light and radio and a water filter and a small biomass stove ride it out.

The only things powered up will probably defense systems and i do not see anthing good coming from this at all.

Lets hope it will only last a few days............

regards

The Truth Is In There
20th July 2012, 11:08
if i understand it correctly the solar event itself will not be responsible for a large number of deaths (except maybe in certain territories). what may cause some depopulation are food shortages in the aftermath as well as increased eathquake and volcanic activity, tsunamis etc. so basically i'd say there's not much to worry about if you are prepared.

we have been given similar information from several sources now (bill's contacts, ed dames, the farsight institute, the OP, and there are other remote viewers who have seen similar scenarios, some of them currently posting on GLP) - all of them pretty much agree on the basic time window of "early 2013".

those of us who take this serious and would like to be prepared for such an event have been given a gift that most of humanity hasn't. many are completely unaware and others simply choose ignore the possibility or remain indifferent. i have tried to alert many of my acquaintances about what's to come and told them to prepare, with very very limited success. i'm sure many of you have done the same and noticed a similar lack of interest, understanding, belief or common sense.

that's why my position is that humanity as a whole will get we we deserve and those who survive or make it through the coming problems with only minor difficulties are those who have heard and heeded the many calls. everything happens for a reason and those who are going to perish have made that decision before their current incarnation (many of them in order to leave earth for good) so there's nothing to worry about, even if large numbers of people should die. it's their decision.

those, like myself, who have looked into all matters concerning health, nutrition, and the beyond-the-limits poisoning of humanity that's currently underway (especially in the united states) will agree that without a solar event or something similar that brings the whole of humanity back to basics, we'd face a slow and inevitable depopulation through sickness and diseases unlike anything in known history, along with skyrocketing infertility rates, birth defects and other man-made problems.

like many others, i've studied a lot of that stuff intensively during the last few years and i can assure everyone that the coming solar event is the best that can possibly happen to us if the continued existence of a healthy human population is to be maintained. so be prepared and all will be well.

Finefeather
20th July 2012, 11:29
Whenever I read or think about catastrophic events I am reminded of nature and it's undeterred goal of seeking stillness.
Plants and Animals, without the rational thinking mind just keep on doing what they always do, after the event, as if nothing happened.
Many times I have watched ants, if you place an obstacle in their path, they just find a way round it or over it. If you kill a few thousand, you don't see them stop and have a meeting about it...they seem to know, somewhere inside them, that this is just the way life is. They just go right back to what it is they were doing, some insects and animals even just clean up and start again.
Man, the rational thinker, looks at obstacles in so many ways,... what was that?...who did it?...why was it done?...what did I do to deserve it?...am I been punished?...what can I do to avoid it?...on and on and on...
Every potentially 'bad' event is seen as a direct attack on our sacred space, our supposed superiority, our arrogant demeanor,.... or is it just fear of the unknown?

Bo Atkinson
20th July 2012, 11:35
Living beyond network break-downs of any kind (lighter or moderate catastrophic scenarios) does suggest making good use of the internet before it goes down.... (From whatever cause)....

There are plenty of human and material resources available, for those with the wits to search regionally. Free will allows one to choose between old habits and some sort of independence from 'grids' which may break down.

One shoe cannot fit all. Therefore we are responsible for what we determine and what we choose.

At the least, one can search through their own local regions, to determine helpful resources to fit their own reality. This search can take months, because it has seemed less important in the past. Because we may have spoiled our minds with comfort zones, instead of resilience for our times. The distant resources may become less reachable in the future. Seek local developments which prepare for these new issues. Encourage local resources to redouble their service efforts. Encourage local talent to hone these services. Support the health of your locality.

Computers communications could become far less usable and reliable. In terms of daily updating forums like this one.

Nevertheless, the spirit of avalon, can live on-- Ad inspiration to local, regional radio shows which might survive network breakdowns. The worst case scenario might just be kicking oneself for not taking heed and reorganizing ones prospects sooner. Lessen the addiction to the 'grid' or to the 'matrix'.

danceblackcatdance
20th July 2012, 11:36
I have made peace with myself and the universe.
I have resigned myself to the fact that whatever will be... will be.
I fear not, for I realize the universal plan is unfolding just as it should be... and all is well ;)
Our human bodies may be temporary, but our spirits are eternal.
I have no desire to hang around here forever anyway... there are other things I must do.
For now though, I look forward with great anticipation to experiencing whatever is around the corner for us... regardless of the outcome.
Interesting times ahead, for sure.

Ditto brother, pretty much word for word exactly what I wanted to say haha, thanks!

Wishing everyone who is healing into better health :)

parcival
20th July 2012, 11:52
Yawn...I put this whole solar "catastrophe" in the same category as Bill's California EQ prediction last September.

Absolutely nothing will happen...go meditate...

778 neighbour of some guy
20th July 2012, 12:04
Nobody got hurt and that should make you happy instead of yawning or am i wrong here?

I wish nothing will happen, if it does i hope i am prepared for it.

ThePythonicCow
20th July 2012, 12:10
This thread is beginning to confuse - a solar event and a wave from the galactic center are two different occurences, aren't they?
A wave from the galactic center could be the cause of a solar event -- the galactic wave could cause the sun to flare.

Moreover, the main threat to earth from such a galactic wave would likely not be from the wave itself, but indirectly, from the energized sun.

Anchor
20th July 2012, 12:22
At least this means that when the Dec-21st goes by and nothing really happens, there will be something else just around the corner to keep a good chunk of folks attention glued to the situation outside themselves...

That said, I'll be keeping my CB's in a grounded metal box along with a spare inverter/charger - lol - I've been doing that for five years or so anyway, a few more months wont hurt

ThePythonicCow
20th July 2012, 12:32
At least this means that when the Dec-21st goes by and nothing really happens, ...
Bright Garlick was suspecting something in (maybe) the first few months of 2013, not specifically on Dec 21, 2012.

araucaria
20th July 2012, 12:34
Nobody got hurt and that should make you happy instead of yawning or am i wrong here?

I wish nothing will happen, if it does i hope i am prepared for it.

If this is for me, then you're wrong ;)

778 neighbour of some guy
20th July 2012, 12:38
Nobody got hurt and that should make you happy instead of yawning or am i wrong here?

I wish nothing will happen, if it does i hope i am prepared for it.

If this is for me, then you're wrong ;)

Not for you, be happy ;)

Arpheus
20th July 2012, 12:44
This is bad news for those of us who have no extra income to spare and live from paycheck to paycheck,i always wanted to storage some food but never had the financial mean to do it,oh well lol guss i will join the starvation list then !!The good news is that if the grid goes down completely and is beyond repai,then it will be the first time in a long time that the human race will be really free and be able to experience real freedom!!

danceblackcatdance
20th July 2012, 12:46
At least this means that when the Dec-21st goes by and nothing really happens, ...
Bright Garlick was suspecting something in (maybe) the first few months of 2013, not specifically on Dec 21, 2012.
Even better, still 1 last chance to go snowboarding again then :cool:

mountain_jim
20th July 2012, 13:16
Thanks Bright!

If this happens, the key for whether I (in my current location) can survive and prosper physically, is whether the numerous nuclear reactors can be shut down and cooled if the grid is taken out.

So it seems some way of getting that issue out to the mainstream and somehow getting the reactors electrically defended or shut down early (not likely to happen in areas for which they are the only source of power) is a key to minimize the casualties and earth damage.

Maunagarjana
20th July 2012, 13:18
This thread is beginning to confuse - a solar event and a wave from the galactic center are two different occurences, aren't they?
A wave from the galactic center could be the cause of a solar event -- the galactic wave could cause the sun to flare.

Moreover, the main threat to earth from such a galactic wave would likely not be from the wave itself, but indirectly, from the energized sun.

That makes sense to me. Though there are normal cycles of the sun that are peaking right now too. This could be exacerbated by the arrival of highly charged particles in the vicinity of our solar system. So it's like a perfect solar storm. The storm itself is not the real issue, it's our dependence on electronics for transportation and our daily needs. Also, the very real possibility of nuclear meltdowns. And please do not forget the threat of widespread fires if transformers blow up.

WhiteFeather
20th July 2012, 14:25
Thanks for the Heads Up B. G.

And Things to consider here most importantly.... IMO.

Be of:
A Healthy Mind
A Healthy Spirit
A Healthy Body

And if in fact such an event does occur and we have no recourse. Remember that we are made up of Energy. So we must Revert back to: The Law Of Thermodynamics..... if you will.

Laws of Thermodynamics: Exists in many forms, such as heat, light, chemical energy, and electrical energy. Energy is the ability to bring about change or to do work. Thermodynamics is the study of energy.

First Law of Thermodynamics: Energy can be changed from one form to another, but it cannot be created or destroyed. The total amount of energy and matter in the Universe remains constant, merely changing from one form to another. The First Law of Thermodynamics (Conservation) states that energy is always conserved, it cannot be created or destroyed. In essence, energy can be converted from one form into another.


IMO...Pane Andov 's Video comes to play Here. To me it seems that this piece fits the puzzle. If you havent seen this video. I suggest you do so.

A Magnificent presentation by Pane "AstralWalker" Andov about the mega event that will take place at the end of year 2012 and beginning of the 2013. He explains that thousands of years ago from the galactic centre of the Milky Way, there was a powerful release of an enormous amount of energy, which like a huge, shining, circular wave is spreading across the galaxy from its centre to its edges. The released energetic pulse is already affecting the whole galaxy including the little dot we call our solar system. Very soon it will reach us and hit us with full strength. He explains what kind of implications this spreading wave of energy will have on our solar system, especially to our star and our planet and how it will affect the DNA of life. The way that Pane connects the dots makes it clear what our planet will face soon and what we as humans can do about it. He is also a contactee and delivers important messages which he backs up with scientific data. For the record, his DNA was changed when his biological body was only seven years old, enabling him to utilize abilities such telepathy, remote viewing, astral travel and to make contact. He claims that from time to time numerous ET races communicate and deliver important messages to him as a result of alternations to his DNA in early childhood. One of those races is the positive race that is delivering the genuine crop circles, and they explained to him what the complex geometries mean. That's how Pane was able to translate the complex geometric designs which contain the solution to the equation regarding what humanity is facing, when it's going to happen and what can be done about it.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?42794-The-Great-Cycle-and-Cosmic-Events-2012-by-Pane-Andov


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1q2Du_DkKbo&feature=player_embedded

Lazlo
20th July 2012, 16:07
I had a couple of thoughts occur to me while reading along.

As far as this event acting as a catalyst to raise consciousness: It's amazing what can happen if everyone turned of the TV and went outside to talk to their neighbors!

December 21st, 2012: Wouldn't it be convenient to keep everyone focused on this particular date, so that they aren't paying attention to what is really coming shortly thereafter?

Nick Matkin
20th July 2012, 16:46
I've been watching this and similar threads for a while and there seems to be some confusion over what effects a large coronal mass ejection (CME) may have on us all. My background is broadcast electronics engineering, so I have some knowledge on the matter, since solar activity (including the frequent normal-level CMEs) affect short-wave radio, and thus my job:

1) A CME won't fry your brain or give you radiation sickness at ground level. Jet travel at 35,000 feet is another matter. As far as the fossil record goes, mass extinctions seem most likely to have been caused by non-solar events.
2) A huge CME won't burn out your computer, car's electronic ignition or any electronic equipment; is not the same as an electro-magnetic pulse (EMP) caused by a nuclear explosion, or on a smaller scale, a nearby lightning strike.
3) What a Carrington-sized CME event may do has been well documented; i.e. knock out power-distribution and most communications. This is caused by the CME particles interacting with the earth's magnetic field which starts to move and buckle for hours or possibly days. The changing magnetic field induces currents in long power lines and can burn out power distribution transformers. No power, no communications, but worst for most of us, no mains water supply if the electric pumps don't work. (And those of us on long-term medication; have we got six month's, a year's or five year's supply of drugs for when the manufacture and distribution stops? I know I haven't...)
4) For Earth to be hit by another Carrington event, this spectacular CME has to be blasted in our direction. Is there a solar-physicist on this forum who can tell us how often these huge CMEs occur in other directions?
5) Is there someone qualified from a power company who can honestly tell us what precautions are being taken for such an event? Does it make any difference if the longest power lines mostly run north-south or east-west? Is a large country like the USA or Canada at greater risk than a small one like the UK? Is the latitude of the power lines significant – i.e. is Mexico at less risk than Canada?
(I'm not naive enough to expect a senior power engineer to tell us were all doomed if the issue really hasn't been addressed, but it would be good to get some information from a qualified source for the rest of us to consider.)

It seems that as soon as one global catastrophe passes harmlessly, another one is revealed to agitate the masses. Planet-X/Nibiru was scheduled to for 2012. We're in July and no sign – not even for the tens of thousands of amateur astronomers. Shouldn't it be a naked-eye object by now?

Nevertheless, unlikely as I think any of these events are, I am about to buy some solar panels to charge batteries for my amateur radio equipment. At least then I should be able to communicate with other like-minded individuals once the ionosphere has settled down. No doubt “post Apocalypse” some sort of radio communications network will be one of the first things to become established.

But how 99 per cent of us will manage without Tesco/Asda/Wallmart, God only knows...

Regards,

Nick

PS: Bill, HOW does your source know to expect it December 2012/January 2013? And how does he know this one will be directed towards Earth?

Revere
20th July 2012, 16:54
Let's take charge and Intend our future....

"May all of Humanity Fulfill our Potential in a realm of Abundance, Health, Peace, and Individual Freedom in Harmony with God, our Planet and all of creation as we practice responsible service to each other out of love."

People...Say NO to fear!

Peace,
-R-

LarryC
20th July 2012, 17:24
<< It seems that as soon as one global catastrophe passes harmlessly, another one is revealed to agitate the masses. Planet-X/Nibiru was scheduled to for 2012. We're in July and no sign – not even for the tens of thousands of amateur astronomers. Shouldn't it be a naked-eye object by now? >>

Yes, and now we're seeing a lot of talk about stuff that's supposed to happen in Feb. or March of 2013 -right after we (presumably) get past the all important 12/21/12 date. If you wanted to be cynical about it, you could postulate that this is being done to create continuity in the mass fear factor, so people don't breathe a sigh of relief if they make it to 2013.

I'm not saying there's no substance to it -how could I? Just as I don't discount (even now) possibilities such as mass arrests, I wouldn't rule out a solar catastrophe as impossible. But it's also interesting to ask, "What ulterior motives might be behind a theory like this?" If this is the case, that doesn't mean most people who are spreading it (such as the OP of this thread) are doing it deliberately. But we've had these type of predictions almost nonstop over the last ten years or so (Planet X, etc,) and only the dates and the specifics change so I remain skeptical.

steveofengland
20th July 2012, 17:41
Bill had some communication with the spouse of an engineer who told of the worrying situation the energy suppliers are in, there is a link earlier in this thread.
I remember a feature on UK's "top gear" TV program where they fired up to 600,000volts through the roof of a new car VW Golf diesel 2008 model I think. It made a few lights play up on the dashboard. Afterwards the car started and ran fine. However I'm sure that intense solar flares of sufficient magnitude would damage PCBs and chips right?

And then there's a high possibility that flares could last days on and off, so even with some items protected, they could still be damaged later on. This really needs looking into more thoroughly.

Mark
20th July 2012, 17:45
Thank you, BG. Blessings to you and may your health continue to return.


2) A huge CME won't burn out your computer, car's electronic ignition or any electronic equipment; is not the same as an electro-magnetic pulse (EMP) caused by a nuclear explosion, or on a smaller scale, a nearby lightning strike.

Apparently, a large enuf CME (http://www.usatoday.com/tech/science/2010-10-26-emp_N.htm)can indeed produce EMP effects.

nearing
20th July 2012, 18:22
I am with Chris on this one.

We are not the body. Do your best and then ride out the illusion that is 3D life.

steveofengland
20th July 2012, 18:28
Is this an actual movie? http://m.youtube.com/watch?gl=US&hl=en-GB&client=mv-rim&v=iAjtheYwXQk

sirdipswitch
20th July 2012, 19:38
Finefeather

You are a wise man...

Lazlo
20th July 2012, 19:40
5) Is there someone qualified from a power company who can honestly tell us what precautions are being taken for such an event?

I am having a substation built now. I have reviewed all of the drawings, technical specifications, and operating and maintenance requirements of the facility. It will not be built to withstand a Carrington event.

I said it in Bill's thread, grid operators and utilities are addressing other issues right now, such as cybersecurity and maintenance backlogs.

AuCo
20th July 2012, 19:47
I've been watching this and similar threads for a while and there seems to be some confusion over what effects a large coronal mass ejection (CME) may have on us all. My background is broadcast electronics engineering, so I have some knowledge on the matter, since solar activity (including the frequent normal-level CMEs) affect short-wave radio, and thus my job:

1) A CME won't fry your brain or give you radiation sickness at ground level. Jet travel at 35,000 feet is another matter. As far as the fossil record goes, mass extinctions seem most likely to have been caused by non-solar events.
2) A huge CME won't burn out your computer, car's electronic ignition or any electronic equipment; is not the same as an electro-magnetic pulse (EMP) caused by a nuclear explosion, or on a smaller scale, a nearby lightning strike.
3) What a Carrington-sized CME event may do has been well documented; i.e. knock out power-distribution and most communications. This is caused by the CME particles interacting with the earth's magnetic field which starts to move and buckle for hours or possibly days. The changing magnetic field induces currents in long power lines and can burn out power distribution transformers. No power, no communications, but worst for most of us, no mains water supply if the electric pumps don't work. (And those of us on long-term medication; have we got six month's, a year's or five year's supply of drugs for when the manufacture and distribution stops? I know I haven't...)
4) For Earth to be hit by another Carrington event, this spectacular CME has to be blasted in our direction. Is there a solar-physicist on this forum who can tell us how often these huge CMEs occur in other directions?
5) Is there someone qualified from a power company who can honestly tell us what precautions are being taken for such an event? Does it make any difference if the longest power lines mostly run north-south or east-west? Is a large country like the USA or Canada at greater risk than a small one like the UK? Is the latitude of the power lines significant – i.e. is Mexico at less risk than Canada?
(I'm not naive enough to expect a senior power engineer to tell us were all doomed if the issue really hasn't been addressed, but it would be good to get some information from a qualified source for the rest of us to consider.)

It seems that as soon as one global catastrophe passes harmlessly, another one is revealed to agitate the masses. Planet-X/Nibiru was scheduled to for 2012. We're in July and no sign – not even for the tens of thousands of amateur astronomers. Shouldn't it be a naked-eye object by now?

Nevertheless, unlikely as I think any of these events are, I am about to buy some solar panels to charge batteries for my amateur radio equipment. At least then I should be able to communicate with other like-minded individuals once the ionosphere has settled down. No doubt “post Apocalypse” some sort of radio communications network will be one of the first things to become established.

But how 99 per cent of us will manage without Tesco/Asda/Wallmart, God only knows...

Regards,

Nick

PS: Bill, HOW does your source know to expect it December 2012/January 2013? And how does he know this one will be directed towards Earth?

Whether it a all out CME or a downwind from the galactic center, Earth will take a brunt of it.

But then, its all pretty much irrelevant. Whatever it is, if could be prevented they would have made an effort since day 1. After all, who would volunteer to be locked up in the basement for years if one owns the whole house.

The key point is they will have to move underground, whether it's on Earth or on the moon. This says they absolutely cannot be well on the surface - they could have kicked everyone off an island, a mountain top, a whole country if they wanted to but they didn't. It's certainly not us they are afraid of; not mass arrest, not a bunch of silly secret ninjas, or a horde of hungry and destitute fellow humans.

They have everything at disposal yet contented to be entombed for several years deep underground. Can an average Joe make it that long on the surface? Slim chance isn't it? Well, I suppose survival skills will be needed on the long run here folks. Days of endurance are coming, not so much of matter but of mind, for the spirit must live on.

blufire
20th July 2012, 20:06
Several years ago I stopped preparing for specific cataclysmic events and began strategically and thoughtfully planning and preparing for a healthier, resource driven, abundant way of life.

I AM very prepared for specific natural or man-made events but my focus and intent is for a future that doesn’t have to be overly concerned with the immediacy of these situations.

Whether it is . . . . .
Solar events that knock us back to 1800’s (most likely)
Complete global financial collapse and restructuring (most likely)
pole or geophysical shifts
rogue planets and brown dwarf suns
Not so friendly ET’s or ED’s entering this dimension
Food and medical care that is poisonous or slowly killing us
Nuclear reactors or wars going off
Floods, earthquakes, tsunamis famine, plagues

All the other plethora of unfriendlies that are swirling around us

My focus is on letting all the chaos rush right on by me so that I, my family and little mountain town will be mostly unaffected and so in the aftermath we will continue on building a way of life that is abundant for all of us.

So yes . . .we may experience an event that takes out most of the life on our planet but that is no concern to me, it has happened before and will happen again . . . all things are in a cycle.

My concern and concentration is making it through the events that will be highly destructive and difficult but that will leave most of the population physically intact. And most of all coming out on the other side with my own way of abundant life solidly in place and ready to continue to a beautiful, peaceful productive future out of the clutches of the way of life that the "controllers" have planned and poised to orchestrate . . . bit by bit by strangling bit.

Carmen
20th July 2012, 21:38
Blufire, your post is to me the very best advice. Taking responsibility to be as self sustaining as possible. Live away from a city, grow your own food. Those who started preparing years back are in the best position. Those people who have had the warnings and not responded are not in a good spot. We all have the capability of doing something. Our intention and having a plan of action empowers us and one action leads to the next.

When I first learned of catastrophic events to come it was with a sense of dread, but as I learned more and took some action towards sustainability my whole outlook changed. I don't fear the future anymore. I now have a vague sense of excitement, of something momentous to happen in the future. Living is now one of plans and manifestations and wonder. And it's not a feeling of airy fairy naievity (spelling!). I keep myself informed and take action to the best of my present ability and that ability expands as I press on and don't give up. Thank you Blufire. I really like your post.

TargeT
20th July 2012, 23:41
Thank you, BG. Blessings to you and may your health continue to return.


2) A huge CME won't burn out your computer, car's electronic ignition or any electronic equipment; is not the same as an electro-magnetic pulse (EMP) caused by a nuclear explosion, or on a smaller scale, a nearby lightning strike.

Apparently, a large enuf CME (http://www.usatoday.com/tech/science/2010-10-26-emp_N.htm)can indeed produce EMP effects.

its funny, he said they cannot produce EMP, then went on to describe how they produce EMP's (by "buckling" or causing "waves" or .... PULSES in the magnetic field of the earth)


I see a LOT of "nuclear radiation" or "radiation" type of worry in this thread

If you are worried about NUCLEAR RADIATION; it's very likely that this is not something to worry about

See this thread for one of the biggest "scams" I know of (currently):
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?46819-A-video-they-won-t-want-you-to-see--Galen-Winsor-nuclear-scam-&highlight=galen (for the most part Nuclear radiation is safe, we have been lied to (again))

Selene
21st July 2012, 00:09
I wish your post didn’t make so much sense, Bright Garlick. But sadly, it does.

I am among the many here who came into this lifetime with a foreboding sense or higher purpose of “something”, some “event” of globally catastrophic proportions looming. Not my own death, certainly; I’ve been through that many times, and I’m still here again. But I was born this time effectively in mourning for the greater loss of our entire planetary civilization and this great epoch. The loss was always about more than just me. Of that, I am certain.

But “what, exactly” would be the event, the tripwire? There has been no agreement here: A poleshift? Nibiru? A solar storm or galactic wave? Nuclear holocaust? Pandemic? Does it matter? One reason is as good as another at the end of the day, I suppose. Perhaps the real event is beyond our human comprehension, not surprisingly.

The net point of the message has always been the same: Get ready to rock’n’roll, kiddies. Save as many of the others as you can. Survive. Survive. Survive as a species, as an ecosystem, as a planet. Weather this, and beyond. Be prepared to help carry this planet and its inhabitants forward. This is not a drill.

And now the bell is tolling more clearly and more loudly. Your instincts have not led you astray; they run true. Prepare. Prepare. The time is now, or very soon in galactic terms. Do what you feel called to do.

I have always thought that if the time were not to be in our own lifetimes, that if we can do no more than instill a culture of prepping into the general civilization for the future, we will have done our job. Mission accomplished. But who really knows the day, and the hour?

Trust your instincts. They have been given to you for a reason. Do what you need to do. We each have our own role, our own mission.

Do it.

Regards and many blessings,

Selene

Belle
21st July 2012, 00:34
Thank you so much for this thread, BrightGarlic.

It lead me to view your youtube videos on your January 19th encounter. I did have to stop watching Part 2 for a bit...when you recalled them saying, "We are the Beloveds". Strong emotions bubbled up to the surface and tears flowed....I remember hearing those words many years ago.

Still emotional hours later, yet filled with sense of peace knowing that all is well...no matter what, all is well.

Wind
21st July 2012, 00:37
I am looking forward to this event! Let it come! I believe that something big is about to happen soon and it is just a positive thing. Not end of the world, just a beginning of a new one. It is the reason why I was born into this world. It is my purpose to help in this transformation process. There is no such thing as death, so fear not. Isn't it amazing to be alive now?

Ol' Roy
21st July 2012, 01:19
I hear several children outside my window, as I listen to this forum!

I am going out to play!

Vitalux
21st July 2012, 01:27
http://squaringmymoon.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/paranoid1.jpg

What a healthy subject to worry about.

Lets all shake in fear together

It is going to be such a solution :usa2:

Maunagarjana
21st July 2012, 03:54
I am looking forward to this event! Let it come! I believe that something big is about to happen soon and it is just a positive thing. Not end of the world, just a beginning of a new one. It is the reason why I was born into this world. It is my purpose to help in this transformation process. There is no such thing as death, so fear not. Isn't it amazing to be alive now?

It does seem like this path we are on collectively on this planet has run its course in every possible way. Our whole frame of reference desperately needs to change, and if we are not able to change it, I think it fitting that the universe itself will kickstart that process.

gigha
21st July 2012, 04:44
Life I think should be held in reverence

not just something that should be given up so easily

I understand other dimensions and plains

but that does not to me mean that
the gift that I have been given in this physical dimension
should not be honored .

peace and love gigha



I am looking forward to this event! Let it come! I believe that something big is about to happen soon and it is just a positive thing. Not end of the world, just a beginning of a new one. It is the reason why I was born into this world. It is my purpose to help in this transformation process. There is no such thing as death, so fear not. Isn't it amazing to be alive now?

It does seem like this path we are on collectively on this planet has run its course in every possible way. Our whole frame of reference desperately needs to change, and if we are not able to change it, I think it fitting that the universe itself will kickstart that process.

ghostrider
21st July 2012, 05:02
-------

Copied verbatim from my post here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?46887-From-Bill-Ryan-the-Ultimate-Hypothesis&p=519485&highlight=underground#post519485) -- on the thread From Bill Ryan -- the Ultimate Hypothesis (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?46887-From-Bill-Ryan-the-Ultimate-Hypothesis):





Folks, I rest my case. Listen up. We're being told.

It's now coming at us thick and fast, more each month, in the mainstream media.

Again: what I was informed in writing, by a credible source with a TS clearance -- a gifted physicist whose name most in the alternative media would know, who also told me who he now worked for and reported to -- is that the current expectation was for an 1859-scale event to hit us sometime in the December-January timeframe. I first heard about this from him in October 2007 (believe it or not) -- and then again in March of this year.

He joked that I should "get a lot of sunblock, or better still, go underground" -- and then, more seriously, in response to my questions, said that it was not known to what degree the grid and electronic components would be affected worldwide, but that the scale of the event was expected to exceed the 1859 Carrington Event. [My emphasis]

As I wrote earlier in this thread, he did not say how this detailed forecast was known to the insiders. He apologized for not being able to say more -- implying clearly that he knew more but was constrained by his national security responsibility.

I've been watching this play out, and gathering information (I have quite a lot now). I have no way of verifying any of this, but it looks more and more likely that this is a real situation that could be a very major one. For those of you who have missed it, please read carefully this exchange I had in April 2009 -- which alerted me to the seriousness of an approaching problem that had a lot of engineers very worried.

http://projectcamelot.org/electrical_engineer.html
the same theme from different sources all mostly saying the same thing. thanks Bill , We are being told . This is no accident , the phone is ringing and this call is the most important, hello giant fusion star , solar max, records broken since last summer, hello , hello , how much more is needed. It is happening ....

bluestflame
21st July 2012, 05:27
one way to take down the infrastructure we have had our dependance cultivated upon , coincidentaly the same one that the elite have utilised to feather thier own nests with the profits gained thereof

ghostrider
21st July 2012, 05:35
seems we will get our change , just not the way we expected it. I focus my intent , that the elites get to their places and the sun blows and the only thing it destroys is their hideouts, while we remain untouched... we begin a new, without their virus of greed/control/deception tampering with us ever again ... this is my vision, my dream , my heaven...

astrid
21st July 2012, 06:32
Yes, BUT.
It's the us v's them, the separation, polarity thinking that got us here in the first place.

Personally it all makes so much sense on so many levels that this is the next step in our planet's ( and humanity's)
evolution.

Compassion for ALL is the only way to be truly free,
There is no " them", we just all have roles to play here in order to bring about the evolutionary process.
Wishing ill intent on anyone.. is not going to serve you well, especially not now.

Think big picture here, and it all makes perfect sense, all of it.

ghostrider
21st July 2012, 06:36
Yes, BUT.
It's the us v's them, the separation, polarity thinking that got us here in the first place.

Personally it all makes so much sense on so many levels that this is the next step in our planets
evolution.

Compassion for ALL is the only way to be truly free,
There is no " them", we just all have roles to play here in order to bring about the evolutionary process.
Wishing bad things on anyone.. is not going to serve you well, especially not now.

Think big picture here, and it all makes perfect sense, all of it.

your right. this world still rubs off on me. thank God there are those who help keep things in perspective.

Maunagarjana
21st July 2012, 07:06
Life I think should be held in reverence

not just something that should be given up so easily

I understand other dimensions and plains

but that does not to me mean that
the gift that I have been given in this physical dimension
should not be honored .

peace and love gigha

Please, gigha, do not for a moment think that I am dishonoring life. That is not what I am about, at all. I am not callous nor am I blind to suffering. I don't think anyone should just "give up" either. My feelings about all this are incredibly mixed. I have no illusions about the pain and suffering that could result from any type of catastrophe, including my own pain and suffering. I am just trying to see the bigger scenario from a higher perspective. It is not my intention to diminish anyone's suffering or belittle people for whatever emotions they might be dealing with.

gigha
21st July 2012, 07:29
It is all said with love

thanks for the response

I hope you enjoy this. :)

RPAZHVNVJp0



Life I think should be held in reverence

not just something that should be given up so easily

I understand other dimensions and plains

but that does not to me mean that
the gift that I have been given in this physical dimension
should not be honored .

peace and love gigha

Please, gigha, do not for a moment think that I am dishonoring life. That is not what I am about, at all. I am not callous nor am I blind to suffering. I don't think anyone should just "give up" either. My feelings about all this are incredibly mixed. I have no illusions about the pain and suffering that could result from any type of catastrophe, including my own pain and suffering. I am just trying to see the bigger scenario from a higher perspective. It is not my intention to diminish anyone's suffering or belittle people for whatever emotions they might be dealing with.

sdv
21st July 2012, 08:02
A wave from the galactic center could be the cause of a solar event -- the galactic wave could cause the sun to flare.

Moreover, the main threat to earth from such a galactic wave would likely not be from the wave itself, but indirectly, from the energized sun.

This seems to be what remote viewers have been seeing.

Electrical and communication equipment that are damaged can be fixed/replaced. Human beings can solve problems.

Moreover, there are many millions of people who live every day without electricity, running water, a toilet, money to buy convenience food, motor cars, and so on.

There is nothing to fear other than our attachment to the convenient and comfortable and easy lifestyles we have (which may be disrupted untill we can fix the damage).

Anchor
21st July 2012, 09:11
At least this means that when the Dec-21st goes by and nothing really happens, ...
Bright Garlick was suspecting something in (maybe) the first few months of 2013, not specifically on Dec 21, 2012.

I know, but we need to take these milestones in chronological order ;)

GlassSteagallfan
21st July 2012, 10:15
This thread is beginning to confuse - a solar event and a wave from the galactic center are two different occurences, aren't they?
A wave from the galactic center could be the cause of a solar event -- the galactic wave could cause the sun to flare.

Moreover, the main threat to earth from such a galactic wave would likely not be from the wave itself, but indirectly, from the energized sun.

Aha...like the first 35 seconds of this vid:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF76CGnsNOY&feature=plcp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF76CGnsNOY&feature=plcp

applecrusher1992
21st July 2012, 10:54
IDEA: regular mass meditation say every week or so starting later this year or even sooner to mitigate upcoming solar activity damage. Anyone up for that?

Artworks
21st July 2012, 11:30
Lisa M. Harrisons web site is always interesting, her last interview reminds me , as above so below, and staying in touch with the indigenous folk is wise for warnings to any planetary event or events.....!

Anchor
21st July 2012, 11:41
Change is coming. Don't be afraid of it though - it is what we wanted isnt it? Did we not want freedom from the "elite". Well that may well mean no electricity for a while.... so what?

This is not new is it.

So what will come will come.

Why do we always find that we are guided to take action on the terms given by someone else?

My solution: be very clear about the vision that one wants for oneself - then stand your ground and do what you need to do to make that a reality.

Don't be swayed by stories or fears - stand your ground - and simply manifest what brings you the highest joy - whatever that is for you.

Stand brightly in your own self-authority!

Do that - and you will become immune to all the rest of it as the universe starts to reformat accordingly and more importantly you start to see the underlying truth of what it was all for in the first place and become aligned with that divine will that is within.

Even if you die from whatever it is that will happen in the times to come. Even that doesn't really matter does it?

Sooner or later we all will move out of our physical incarnation.

In the next few months, I am confident very many more people will join the ranks of the awakened.

In the next few years, I am confident we will see the end of the elite and the beginning of an even tougher struggle to repair what has been damaged in this amazing garden of dreams.

Maunagarjana
21st July 2012, 19:33
I was listening to a recent Red Ice Radio interview with remote viewing scholar Courtney Brown and he was talking about a catastrophic event likely to happen sometime before June 2013. People who know about remote viewing will also be aware of Maj. Ed Dames's predictions of something similar. I think what the RVers are seeing is the solar catastrophe that Bright Garlick, Bill Ryan and others have remarked upon, but Courtney Brown does say they also see large "meteor" impacts that cause tsunamis. My thought was that the solar storm would cause major seismic activity that could lead to major explosions in certain areas that have a lot of volcanic pressure that could eject large masses of rocks into the air over large distances. This could account for the meteor-like impacts. Just a thought. Whatever the case, it's probably best to get away from the coasts come springtime.

sdv
21st July 2012, 20:42
A hike in the wilderness would be a good preparation for such an event?

I have a damaged knee, but before this injury I used to enjoy wilderness hikes. No electricity or taps or toilet. There is always someone in the group who is brave enough to carry the extra load of a bottle of port, and thank goodness for the person who has a bottle of lavendar oil to help soothe tired feet, and once I was in the Okavanga and lions (less likely) and hippos (much more likely) were a real threat if you had to go to the loo in the middle of the night.

If you are afraid, do a wilderness hike and get back to nature and then you will know that you can actually survive without petrol (get a bicycle) or electricity or tap water or a cellphone (they usually do not work in wilderness areas) or computers or a toilet (dig a hole and use grass) or even money. You will feel liberated from your fears!

DeDukshyn
21st July 2012, 22:14
a good time too detox the bodies in preparation

This post deserves more attention ... so here it is again ... ;)

I started my "detox" a few days ago ... the sun told me to do it ;) ;) ;)
Mind detox will be just as important as body detox imho.

huyi82
21st July 2012, 22:39
this could relate to the dream i had a couple of months ago, who knows, is there any way to deter the events of our fate? i know time/future can be orchastraed to different time lines, maybe the human race can make a difference, it doesn't help that films feed the fear to the public, we only materialize our own future with fear endued media.

Mulder
22nd July 2012, 08:12
Courtney Brown on his "Exploding Planet" interview with Kerry confirmed Bill's post. Courtney added the timeframe of 1 June 2013! Courtney says there will be complete loss of electricity grid/communications due to solar storms & there will be no shielding of the Earth when the magnetic Pole moves to Siberia! (the North Magnetic Pole moves 40ks a year). There will be a Loss of Government functioning e.g. rescue helicopters & Police. Rapid relocation of cities on coastlines because of water hitting these cities. This will happen on many places on Earth e.g. Sydney, Mombassa Kenya (these cities were mentioned in his earlier interview on remote viewing). We will have to live without life’s luxurys – no gas for cars, etc. Also, Washington was specifically mentioned in this interview at the end, as the Anacostia shore and all of the Potomac shore except the uppermost mile are at sea level.


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Copied verbatim from my post here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?46887-From-Bill-Ryan-the-Ultimate-Hypothesis&p=519485&highlight=underground#post519485) -- on the thread From Bill Ryan -- the Ultimate Hypothesis (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?46887-From-Bill-Ryan-the-Ultimate-Hypothesis):





Folks, I rest my case. Listen up. We're being told.

It's now coming at us thick and fast, more each month, in the mainstream media.

Again: what I was informed in writing, by a credible source with a TS clearance -- a gifted physicist whose name most in the alternative media would know, who also told me who he now worked for and reported to -- is that the current expectation was for an 1859-scale event to hit us sometime in the December-January timeframe. I first heard about this from him in October 2007 (believe it or not) -- and then again in March of this year.

He joked that I should "get a lot of sunblock, or better still, go underground" -- and then, more seriously, in response to my questions, said that it was not known to what degree the grid and electronic components would be affected worldwide, but that the scale of the event was expected to exceed the 1859 Carrington Event. [My emphasis]

As I wrote earlier in this thread, he did not say how this detailed forecast was known to the insiders. He apologized for not being able to say more -- implying clearly that he knew more but was constrained by his national security responsibility.

I've been watching this play out, and gathering information (I have quite a lot now). I have no way of verifying any of this, but it looks more and more likely that this is a real situation that could be a very major one. For those of you who have missed it, please read carefully this exchange I had in April 2009 -- which alerted me to the seriousness of an approaching problem that had a lot of engineers very worried.

http://projectcamelot.org/electrical_engineer.html

Cognitive Dissident
22nd July 2012, 11:54
Thanks Mulder - this information is similar to his earlier interview with Kerry on remote viewing. Do you know whether he provided any additional information?

Artworks
22nd July 2012, 12:08
Isn't this what the zeta talk is all about ? The coming pole shift, and that we are up to 7 of the 10 earth events, with the planet wobbling and plates stretching etc.......

The Truth Is In There
22nd July 2012, 12:38
Courtney Brown on his "Exploding Planet" interview with Kerry confirmed Bill's post. Courtney added the timeframe of 1 June 2013! Courtney says there will be complete loss of electricity grid/communications due to solar storms & there will be no shielding of the Earth when the magnetic Pole moves to Siberia! (the North Magnetic Pole moves 40ks a year). There will be a Loss of Government functioning e.g. rescue helicopters & Police. Rapid relocation of cities on coastlines because of water hitting these cities. This will happen on many places on Earth e.g. Sydney, Mombassa Kenya (these cities were mentioned in his earlier interview on remote viewing). We will have to live without life’s luxurys – no gas for cars, etc. Also, Washington was specifically mentioned in this interview at the end, as the Anacostia shore and all of the Potomac shore except the uppermost mile are at sea level.


i'm looking forward to this. a good opportunity for people to reacquaint themselves with the things that are really important in life. no money, no tv, no cars, no more frankenfood, no stressful work, no competition... instead: survival, growing your own food, bartering, helping each other, reading books, learning things that are useful, no more looking down on or up to others, building communities based on cohesion and mutual respect instead of social status or income. this is how a new world can be built. without such an -at first glance- destructive event, based on the current direction we're moving in, building a better world would be impossible. we're on a downward spiral right now. without a tight course correction humanity is doomed and the nwo is just a matter of time.

Christine
22nd July 2012, 12:53
A wave from the galactic center could be the cause of a solar event -- the galactic wave could cause the sun to flare.

Moreover, the main threat to earth from such a galactic wave would likely not be from the wave itself, but indirectly, from the energized sun.

This seems to be what remote viewers have been seeing.

Electrical and communication equipment that are damaged can be fixed/replaced. Human beings can solve problems.

Moreover, there are many millions of people who live every day without electricity, running water, a toilet, money to buy convenience food, motor cars, and so on.

There is nothing to fear other than our attachment to the convenient and comfortable and easy lifestyles we have (which may be disrupted until we can fix the damage).

Hello sdv,

If only it were this simple. Though what you say is true, sure people can learn to survive without electricity, running water, and the automobile. However people can not survive without water or food. Unfortunately our modern world distribution of these essentials for human life are dependent on electricity... to pump the water out of the ground and to pump the gasoline needed to deliver food.

And the worst possible scenario that is almost too difficult to confront is the likelihood of multiple nuclear meltdowns if the grid goes down - I would like to see evidence of humans solving this problem before it happens, if left unattended it will be too late.

This solar cycle is a serious threat to our survivability as a species. I believe that Bright Garlick in this thread is ultra sincere that we should heed this warning in whatever ways are available to us to prepare.

I have realized that most people will remain complacent in their lives until they are galvanized by a mutual threat and need to work together. Maybe that is what this solar cycle is all about.

Christine

sdv
22nd July 2012, 16:22
Christine, you don't have to pump water out of the ground in order to get fresh water (and, actually you can pump water out of the ground using wind power or human power - people do it in Africa all the time). Are all your streams and rivers so polluted that you cannot use the water for drinking?

Food can be grown you know, and there are many farmers that grow food that you can eat without cooking (vegetables, fruit). Food can even be cooked without electricity. Hens lay eggs every day. There are fish in the sea. (you can collect wood, make a fire and cook the fish on a flat stone). Do you really not know how to get access to food that is not packaged and processed and delivered to you?

I guess that is why the remote viewers who did see disaster (and many of them did not categorically see this), saw people evacuating the cities on foot (no biclycles or horse-drawn buggies?) And there will be people among those evacuating who know how to get fresh water and find food, so it will be ok.

I just hope the event happens in winter here because there is a fresh stream within walking distance of me, but summer is the dry season so it is a trickle then!

As for the nuclear meltdown, check out the emergency plan for the nuclear reactor near where you live and attend one of their public safety meetings (and get hold of minutes from previous meetings).

I'm really not trying to be a naysayer here but to encourage people by assuring them that surviving a disaster such as communication and electrical systems failing on a grand scale is possible so there is no need to fear.

greybeard
22nd July 2012, 17:48
Actually this is the reason I joined the original Avalon years ago--- ground crews were being formed with the idea of establishing communities that were self sufficient--- safe havens--some of us formed the Scottish Ground Crew and had several meetings, unfortunately none of us had enough money to buy or rent ground so it fell away.
Way back then it was talked about on Avalon that there would be earth changes of great magnitude-- tho it was a bit vague as to how this would come about or a time frame-- its more focused now as their is a time frame and several possible causes.
To the good there was a lot of survival information shared which is still quite valid-- Anchor would be a good resource for that.
The essence of the videos about just now seems to be that God looks after His own and I dont mean necessarily Church goers but people who have a concern for the well being of others -- you/we would not be on Avalon if that was not the case.
So do what you can without fear.

Chris

Mulder
22nd July 2012, 19:02
Thanks Mulder - this information is similar to his earlier interview with Kerry on remote viewing. Do you know whether he provided any additional information?
I wrote all that he said. I'm very disappointed he never gave us the date it all started, but we all know dates are impossible to remote view due to different time-lines. I also wish he would give some warning signs!

araucaria
22nd July 2012, 19:27
Courtney Brown on his "Exploding Planet" interview with Kerry confirmed Bill's post. Courtney added the timeframe of 1 June 2013! Courtney says there will be complete loss of electricity grid/communications due to solar storms & there will be no shielding of the Earth when the magnetic Pole moves to Siberia! (the North Magnetic Pole moves 40ks a year). There will be a Loss of Government functioning e.g. rescue helicopters & Police. Rapid relocation of cities on coastlines because of water hitting these cities. This will happen on many places on Earth e.g. Sydney, Mombassa Kenya (these cities were mentioned in his earlier interview on remote viewing).



Courtney Brown's experimental protocol involved two dates: 1 June 2013 and 1 June 2008 (or 2009?). This was to validate the data from a future timeline, but I can't help feeling there would be some kind of entanglement between the two dates. If this had been done with 1 June 2012 for instance, the outcome might possibly have been different, I don't know, but in any case, the problem with RV into the future is deciding which timeline you are on. While multiple testing producing the same results suggests many similar timelines, nonetheless we could still be in for something quite different. COurtney himself quotes many cases of abduction events where for a long time the standard outcome of RV was basically garbage - a screen scenario. This could be more of the same imho.

Midnight
22nd July 2012, 21:20
I have read some comments that if these events were to happen, they welcome the opportunity to return to a more simple way of life. You know, grow your own food, barter,etc.

But I suspect there would be roaming gangs of service-to-self types banging on your door with their guns, looking for food and other supplies. It would be a nasty world for some time, I suspect. I also have to say I will believe in this solar catastrophe when it actually happens. I've seen so many catastrophe predictions fail over the years that I think a somewhat skeptical attitude is wise when evaluating any doom scenario.

The Truth Is In There
23rd July 2012, 08:22
Hello sdv,

If only it were this simple. Though what you say is true, sure people can learn to survive without electricity, running water, and the automobile. However people can not survive without water or food. Unfortunately our modern world distribution of these essentials for human life are dependent on electricity... to pump the water out of the ground and to pump the gasoline needed to deliver food.

And the worst possible scenario that is almost too difficult to confront is the likelihood of multiple nuclear meltdowns if the grid goes down - I would like to see evidence of humans solving this problem before it happens, if left unattended it will be too late.

This solar cycle is a serious threat to our survivability as a species. I believe that Bright Garlick in this thread is ultra sincere that we should heed this warning in whatever ways are available to us to prepare.

I have realized that most people will remain complacent in their lives until they are galvanized by a mutual threat and need to work together. Maybe that is what this solar cycle is all about.

Christine

see how unnatural the westernized world has become? most people just can't be bothered to carry water, grow food, recycle their waste, use their hands and their brains to ensure survival instead of their money. it's too INCONVENIENT.

the western civilization has severely deteriorated in less than a century and the deterioration is still accelerating. we depend on everything but ourselves for our survival as a species. this is a trend that has to be stopped before it's too late and there's no other way to stop it than disasters of worldwide magnitude. people who don't realize that something very very "inhuman" is going on on earth right now are either blind, ignorant or afraid to face the facts.

The Truth Is In There
23rd July 2012, 08:36
I have read some comments that if these events were to happen, they welcome the opportunity to return to a more simple way of life. You know, grow your own food, barter,etc.

But I suspect there would be roaming gangs of service-to-self types banging on your door with their guns, looking for food and other supplies. It would be a nasty world for some time, I suspect. I also have to say I will believe in this solar catastrophe when it actually happens. I've seen so many catastrophe predictions fail over the years that I think a somewhat skeptical attitude is wise when evaluating any doom scenario.

it would be a nasty world in certain areas, that's for sure. but eventually even those people would come to realize that fighting each other is counterproductive and that survival works only in tight communities who work hand in hand and trust each other. that is the basis for a new world, a better world as it has been described by prophets and et-contactees alike. our development right now goes in the opposite direction and there's no stopping that trend through talk, sending love & light and imagining a wonderful world like many seem to believe, unless everyone does it (good luck, people!). solar doom may be inconvenient in the short term but in the long run it's going to be our salvation.

Bill Ryan
23rd July 2012, 14:26
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From http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2012/20jul_tasteofsolarmax






A Taste of Solar Maximum

July 20, 2012:  Forecasters say Solar Max is due in the year 2013.  When it arrives, the peak of 11-year sunspot cycle will bring more solar flares, more coronal mass ejections, more geomagnetic storms and more auroras than we have experienced in quite some time.

On the weekend of July 14, 2012, sky watchers around the world got a taste of things to come.

(article continues here (http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2012/20jul_tasteofsolarmax))

Nick Matkin
23rd July 2012, 15:50
Good article from a reliable source - NASA (Well I think they are more reliable than some of the wacky "we're-all-doomed" internet sources!)

But it says "... more geomagnetic storms and more auroras than we have experienced in quite some time." Yes, since the last solar cycle peak about 11 years ago. We all survived that, and the one before that, and the one before that and...

The article doesn't say we're on course for a Carrington-sized event. And I haven't seen any qualified sources suggesting this solar cycle is really going to be more intense than others. In fact it's been much quieter than predicted by this time in the cycle. It might have fewer but more intense flares than usual, but then it might not.

When I first started work in HF broadcasting, colleagues told me of the intense Cycle 19 peaking in the late 1950s and the effects it had on radio signals, but hardly anything the man-in-the-street would have noticed.

I've noticed the recent CMEs affecting HF radio communications, but they're nothing unusual, just annoying for those who use HF radio. None yet as intense as the March 1989 flare/CME where the Northern Lights were visible from southern England!

Having said that, the Carrington event of 1859 was during solar-cycle 10, a quite average one looking here: http://www.ips.gov.au/Educational/2/3/1 (Click on solar cycle 1 to 23 from drop-down list). Unfortunately I haven't found any reliable data suggesting how often Earth gets hit by these mega flares.

What is the source of this imminent giant CME threat? Why is this cycle (number 24) supposed to be more dangerous than previous ones?

A skeptic might think there are those out there who just want to be scared, regardless of the science.

Regards,

Nick

Midnight
23rd July 2012, 16:19
I did a quick re-examination of Paul Laviolette's Superwave theory, a theory that has been supported by evidence reported by other scientists in the years after he submitted his theory.

As you probably know, he believed that high concentrations of cosmic dust that emanated from the galactic core invaded our solar system every 13 to 26 thousand years, which excited the Sun to levels many times those that are currently seen. The last major superwave ended the last ice age. Apparently there is a black layer of earth that suggests that a massive plasma fireball ( or perhaps a series of them) may have reached the Earth and moon and scorched the surfaces.

If that were to occur again, we would have more to be concerned about than our global electrical grid. Did the Mayans and other indigenous people predict another galactic superwave with their calendars? Do the Ets know? Do the elite know, with their underground cities?

But it's still just a theory. And even if it is correct, the next wave might be hundreds, if not thousands of years in the future.

Dennis Leahy
23rd July 2012, 18:41
Continued healing to you, BG!

Dennis

syrwong
23rd July 2012, 20:15
Why is this prophecy of X-CME and perhaps more disasters so probably be true? If we compare this with the scare of Y2K, it becomes obvious. I do not know much, somebody else could give a better comparison, but here are some points.

1. The sheer scale of warnings from all sources, both alternative and even deliberate mainstream disclosure is incomparable. We virtually have everyone crying out the warnings, contactees, chanellers, scientists, whistleblowers, prophecies etc.

2. The information dating back decades, be it skeptical or not, like secret underground bases, and from movies over a period of decades, and from books, point to something big and disastrous. No disinformation campaign or Psy-op can be so big and extensive over such a long period.

3. The reasons for catastrophes are rather cohesive and convincing, even considering some disinfos added in. The X-CME is very much science, its devastating effect is definite. Nibiru is very much astronomical fact. So is Galactic alignment.
The Y2K reasons for scare appeared quite doubtful to me at the time.

DeDukshyn
23rd July 2012, 22:06
Why is this prophecy of X-CME and perhaps more disasters so probably be true? If we compare this with the scare of Y2K, it becomes obvious. I do not know much, somebody else could give a better comparison, but here are some points.

1. The sheer scale of warnings from all sources, both alternative and even deliberate mainstream disclosure is incomparable. We virtually have everyone crying out the warnings, contactees, chanellers, scientists, whistleblowers, prophecies etc.

2. The information dating back decades, be it skeptical or not, like secret underground bases, and from movies over a period of decades, and from books, point to something big and disastrous. No disinformation campaign or Psy-op can be so big and extensive over such a long period.

3. The reasons for catastrophes are rather cohesive and convincing, even considering some disinfos added in. The X-CME is very much science, its devastating effect is definite. Nibiru is very much astronomical fact. So is Galactic alignment.
The Y2K reasons for scare appeared quite doubtful to me at the time.

With y2K there was an easy fix, the main issue was 'would the fix be implemented in time for the major systems?' And yes it was. For this ... there is no fix, but how we are willing to change may drive the severity of the effects. It may be nasty, it may be not too terribly bad - I feel it is up to us to decide in some manner, but this is the metaphysical side of me trying to get some words in. Anyway we look at it ... we are completely at the Sun's mercy. I've chosen to relate to the Sun with pure love. My 2 cents.

DeDukshyn
23rd July 2012, 23:02
I did a quick re-examination of Paul Laviolette's Superwave theory, a theory that has been supported by evidence reported by other scientists in the years after he submitted his theory.

As you probably know, he believed that high concentrations of cosmic dust that emanated from the galactic core invaded our solar system every 13 to 26 thousand years, which excited the Sun to levels many times those that are currently seen. The last major superwave ended the last ice age. Apparently there is a black layer of earth that suggests that a massive plasma fireball ( or perhaps a series of them) may have reached the Earth and moon and scorched the surfaces.

If that were to occur again, we would have more to be concerned about than our global electrical grid. Did the Mayans and other indigenous people predict another galactic superwave with their calendars? Do the Ets know? Do the elite know, with their underground cities?

But it's still just a theory. And even if it is correct, the next wave might be hundreds, if not thousands of years in the future.

In my opinion, the recently discovered ancient underground cities in Europe may well be a clue to how 'we' survived the last event of this nature, why would there be the need to build an underground city so long ago? That is a huge undertaking - one of these cities may have housed up to +20,000 people for several years - the motivation must have been huge .. like, survival huge. Mainstream science would reject this because of the timeframes indicated are outside of their paradigm, but just more evidence to the fact tha that paradigm is wrong ... but, there may be something else that comes with these cycles. The Mayans are gone, and I doubt they left their established kingdoms because they ran out of firewood (which is the mainstream accepted view as to why the Mayans disappeared ... lol). Keys to what else may happen within these cycles and/or events may be hidden in our mythology, ancient texts and even religions. There's a bit more than meets the eye I think (as there almost always is). My two cents.

Ron Mauer Sr
24th July 2012, 02:41
Blufire, your post is to me the very best advice. Taking responsibility to be as self sustaining as possible. Live away from a city, grow your own food. Those who started preparing years back are in the best position. Those people who have had the warnings and not responded are not in a good spot. We all have the capability of doing something. Our intention and having a plan of action empowers us and one action leads to the next.

When I first learned of catastrophic events to come it was with a sense of dread, but as I learned more and took some action towards sustainability my whole outlook changed. I don't fear the future anymore. I now have a vague sense of excitement, of something momentous to happen in the future. Living is now one of plans and manifestations and wonder. And it's not a feeling of airy fairy naievity (spelling!). I keep myself informed and take action to the best of my present ability and that ability expands as I press on and don't give up. Thank you Blufire. I really like your post.

Minimum preparation for an indefinite duration of no electric power should include:

Water (link) (http://ronmauer.net/blog/?page_id=178) - Have a water plan. Three days without water is major trouble. If well water is accessible using an emergency well bucket, that is ideal. If water is taken from a stream or lake, one must have a quality water filter, a Berkey or equivalent.
Food (link) (http://ronmauer.net/blog/?page_id=736) - Beans, rice and canned food will keep us alive for a very long time, for little expense. Stock up on seasoning and spices to change flavor and avoid food fatigue. Food storage must last until the next harvest which could be many months in the future. Food can be cooked outdoors using a solar oven (http://ronmauer.net/blog/?page_id=557) or camp stove that can use wood as fuel.
Toilet (link) (http://ronmauer.net/blog/?page_id=216) - A composting toilet (a.k.a. sawdust toilet) and two composting bins are required. Simple and inexpensive to make. Soap is needed for when toilet paper is no longer available.
Wood Stove (link) (http://ronmauer.net/blog/?page_id=669) - A wood stove is necessary for cold weather.


Prepare a little each payday and each trip to the grocery store. Start now. Don't stop.

Learn how to live as a poor Mexican lives. They have skills we do not.

Carmen
24th July 2012, 02:51
I joined Avalon for the same reasons you did Greybeard, to be part of a ground crew that was taking practical steps towards surviving what was to come. Some people seem to be doing practical things, gaining knowledge and preparing. Others just talk about doing something or decide that any sort of preparation is impossible for them. That's sad, we are all capable of doing something toward a self sustaining future. Just one step leads to the next. Taking steps also takes away the fear of what may happen. Focusing on a future and taking the steps toward it is self empowering.

sdv
24th July 2012, 03:49
I have done a basic analysis of the remote viewing research done by Courtney Brown, focusing on one target, and I have found absolutely nothing to support the idea of a 'major global event' in 2013.

Does someone else want to anlyse the data for other targets, or do you want me to do it?!! (Best for a local to analyse a local area?)

You can find the raw data here: http://www.farsight.org/demo/Demo2008/Climate_RV_Project_Target_Results_Download_Page.html

Here's my analysis:

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Delight
24th July 2012, 16:44
I was listening to a recent Red Ice Radio interview with remote viewing scholar Courtney Brown and he was talking about a catastrophic event likely to happen sometime before June 2013. People who know about remote viewing will also be aware of Maj. Ed Dames's predictions of something similar. I think what the RVers are seeing is the solar catastrophe that Bright Garlick, Bill Ryan and others have remarked upon, but Courtney Brown does say they also see large "meteor" impacts that cause tsunamis. My thought was that the solar storm would cause major seismic activity that could lead to major explosions in certain areas that have a lot of volcanic pressure that could eject large masses of rocks into the air over large distances. This could account for the meteor-like impacts. Just a thought. Whatever the case, it's probably best to get away from the coasts come springtime.

I listened to both hours of CB and in the first, he referenced some stuff about "how" to look at a future event that was hard to follow. He also referenced the 2007 Farsight experiment as one one which targets were given two time lines. One was based on A...scientists do not "accept" #1 RV and #2 life coming from extraterrestrial origins.

Timeline B had scientists accepting by the end of 2009 the propositions.

This interview gave me the chill sensation of lying.

It is not possible to believe Mr. Brown's insistence that he has no further information beyond the "experiment".
HUH? No intelligent humans' in their right mind who years ago had come across such startling evidence will stop looking further.
No, It is NOT believable, especially as Mr. Brown wants me to believe he knows remote viewing works.

Therefore I consider this to be more on the lines of disinformation calculated to stir up fear with no possible way to deal with the fear. It treated me as if I am an idiot who will swallow anything fed.

I will tell you why. If anomalous preparations are being made for a Carrington level/ civilization threatening event; If the US in particular has had preknowledge via their own remote viewing etc. and behaves willfully as a government not of the people etc..., I think this was likely part of the props in the staging of whatever is planned.

Mainstream science's embrace of remote viewing and life from extraterrestrial sources will not make any difference to a state of anarchy caused by the aftermath of an ELE? If the RV info is correct, we are faced with an event where survivors will be asked to give up any remaining freedom for the sake of order. I expect that a crust of bread doled out by organizations that have lied to us about what they knew and when they knew it is preferable to death for some.

Yes, I am very angry to be given some info but not enough to help me prepare logically.

Yes, If RV works, I think Mr. Brown and his organization appears to support a fall of civilization apparently at hand.

On the other hand, maybe like all prophecy, the change of mind from any knowledge may shift the timeline scenario. That is what i will see myself.

At any rate, I now refuse to ever listen to CB's words again. Margaret

mountain_jim
24th July 2012, 17:33
Concerning Courtney Brown, I took a quick look at his Jesus Crucifixion Ruse session data

http://www.crucifixionruse.com/rv-sessions/

and thought maybe he is seeing what he wants and expects and not what is really there. I admit I did not do a rigorous analysis, but looking at some of those sketches and word impressions and coming up with the details he does seems a little sketchy to me.

I would not doubt if the 2013 stuff might be similar, though I have not looked at it yet.

greybeard
24th July 2012, 17:43
The collective consciousness will influence the end result--- if the majority of people who are aware of the predictions think we will be ok then they will be right because that is what they are putting creative energy to.
Ive seem the end of the world films and there is so much of it im actually immune to doom stories
Knowing that Im not the body is great help--- death of form is inevitable.
Im enjoying each day as it comes--- cant really ask for more.
Be happy.

Chris

Delight
24th July 2012, 17:58
Concerning Courtney Brown, I took a quick look at his Jesus Crucifixion Ruse session data

http://www.crucifixionruse.com/rv-sessions/

and thought maybe he is seeing what he wants and expects and not what is really there. I admit I did not do a rigorous analysis, but looking at some of those sketches and word impressions and coming up with the details he does seems a little sketchy to me.

I would not doubt if the 2013 stuff might be similar, though I have not looked at it yet.

I noticed you have a Robert Anton Wilson quote. I just finished reading Cosmic Trigger. In that book, RAW looks at himself looking at information and at others looking at information. Information that is believed seems to bring more and more of the same in strange and synchronistic ways. the more devoted one becomes to a subject, the more the "reality" begins to take that interest and elaborate it. In terms of the "collective" consciousness, apparently from Tim Leary and RAW's understanding at the time (1977), we have been in line for an "upgrade" in biocircuitry (Tim Leary came up with this idea). In the use of modalities like psychedielics with the set and setting for rebooting, people embraced enlarged capacity for operation. In the book, Tim Leary even used prison to help him reach higher states of consciousness. Again, he received according to his interest.

RAW discusses in that book too that they really thought we would have as a whole been in a much different relationship to consciousness and to terrestrial experience by now. I am really trying myself to understand my own relationship to consciousness. I feel that maybe the only faith i have is in the individual's ability to know how we create our reality tunnels and to "do something" about it. Like Chris, I will decide I am immune to doom stories. Also, and however, I want to live a body existence that is enlarged. So, I am still a bit attached to being in the body.

That is where i can become quite upset by what i perceive as attempts to subvert human "striving" towards IN FORMED awareness. I want still to live in a form and yet be connected to Universality. That is my paradoxical achilles heel. If someone kicks my heel there, it hurts.

sdv
24th July 2012, 18:09
and thought maybe he is seeing what he wants and expects and not what is really there. I admit I did not do a rigorous analysis, but looking at some of those sketches and word impressions and coming up with the details he does seems a little sketchy to me.

I would not doubt if the 2013 stuff might be similar, though I have not looked at it yet.

I did start doing an anlysis of the 2013 study (posted my analysis on this thread) and this is what I found (that the data does not match what he is saying so categorically). How can it be scientific to ignore everything that does not support what you believe, even if that is more than 50% of the data?

Rocky_Shorz
30th July 2012, 18:47
For those of you, who wonder why ET's don't prevent the event - I believe the answer is 2 fold : Earth needs the energy of such a significant solar storm (I suspect that is related to cyclical processes that keep Earth's molten core active) and the ET's know that humans must find their own way to adapt to solar events in the future. They can only do so much ! We have created this problem and we need to learn how to adapt how we live to an active solar system.


As for when the solar catastrophe is going to happen – first let me say that I must be crazy to talk about dates. Only a mad man or an idiot puts that kind of noose around his neck ! But I am so concerned about this, I no longer care about my reputation. I have an exact date but I am still doubtful of that myself. Instead I will give you a window of time. I give this to you, so that you have a rough idea how far away such an event lay in our future. So many people have talked about this time of transition and for a long time I have talked against a specific event. But it is clear to me now that the solar catastrophe is the key event in this period of transition, in which there are many significant events.

My gut feeling and my feeling from the time period I have seen is that the solar catastrophe will take place between March-April 2013 and maybe as early as mid February. Exact dates are difficult to pin down, as time is not a fixed entity and time lines break and reconnect and reform, in an infinite number of ways both personally and collectively. When my ET friends recently informed me of their concern that the solar catastrophe would be worse than they first thought (and they means hundreds of thousands of races), I realized that they saw this event from 2 possible perspectives. From one, they could not see exactly what would happen in this collective time line up until recently. Or from the other, they knew all along exactly what would happen but felt we would be more proactive in our response. I suspect the later is true. Some humans have known about the coming solar catastrophe for a long time but little has been done to protect the world power grids.

As it was explained to me, without intervention, humanity would find itself on the brink of extinction; with intervention, much death and suffering will be prevented. But this will still be a catastrophic event for our species – the worst in recorded history. Some in the Powers That Be – in a structure I have called The Architecture, are aware of what is to happen but the general public will remain ignorant. I suspect evidence of such an intervention will slowly come to the fore, over the next few centuries.


... I do not have the energy to engage with you, if I am to continue healing. I was warned by my ET friends that none of this is good for my health. I have taken this risk because I feel I have to. As a Buddhist I gain nothing from attachment. Every major decision I make is difficult and this choice of action is no different. I am doing this because I care for my fellow human beings and wish to see all beings free of suffering. I will visit the thread from time to time to see how people have responded but I do not wish to say any more after this. In addition I will be finishing blogging on September 1st, to refocus all of my energy on enjoying life !


There are a small group of humans on Earth at this time, using all that they have been given, for the greater good.


Be happy and be well and know that all that you need is within.

Bright Garlick. :flame: :peace:

I know you said you will not be responding again in this thread, but I do have a few questions that are very important...

remember, the ETs who are making contact with us know the human potential for survival, and many events they could stop are being used for our training... take a look at what is highlighted from what you wrote, you are still in contact with ETs and their words and wisdom is coming through in what you are sharing...

Onyx our other member who is in contact with "others" was given several warning of what was coming, but call it a timeline shift, or redirected energies, the critical moment passed without affecting us.

that is what we are being trained at for what is coming.

now over the last 7-10 days I have watched the Sun go from a Backside that was pure energy covered with dark sunspots to just a single serious sunspot swinging towards us now...

we don't have a clue what we are doing, but we are making the changes needed to quiet the sun.

The secret of the fountain of youth is the water and how it has a cleansing effect on illnesses in our body, you have the ability to bring the poisons to the surface to have them gently wash away...

you understand what is going on inside you, put your left hand on the area, you will feel the heat, draw it towards your hand and let it wash down the drain... the tone from AaaaMen is the frequency of cleansing, do it while in the healing process...

I don't speak Guru, so translate it however you want, but give it a shot, I have more questions for you when you are feeling better...

remember, from the first paragraph, "we have created this problem"


anything we created, we can fix...


right now drought is killing off crops around the world...


we need to move critical food indoors using vertical farms


3 10 story farms could produce enough food to feed New York, the Uber Rich don't care about those left behind like always they are only worried about themselves.

it doesn't have to be multistory, as mansions are abandoned, turn them into food production centers. uses less water and prevents plant burn from extreme sun conditions.

for all of you millionaires who expected a ticket on the shuttle, if it isn't already in your hand, you aren't getting one, so use your money wisely now and produce vertical farms, if nothing happens, the facility will pay for itself in 3 years, perfect investment for the times...

Poly Hedra
30th July 2012, 19:18
Hi everyone
Thanks for this information, its definately better to be ready and be wrong. This has been on my mind for some time now, not exactly this exact scenario but a loss of internet, community etc. I think this might be a good time to discuss with fello avalonions in my area, London. I would love to seriously discuss this with the ground crew. If everything went to **it, could we have somewhere to meet and help each other and therefore help others?

Rocky_Shorz
30th July 2012, 20:13
for all of you Avalonians ready to start off in the wild, have any of you stocked up on vegetable seeds...

if all stores are barred shut, how would you get those 99 cent seed packs from inside?

important for long term situations and cheep...

incoming Solar Energy, it can cause quakes, or redirecting energy into something of good...

rain for drought lands, peace for Syria, the energy will have you irritable along with those around you, give your subconscious a task to work on...

Jet stream is still broken...

crops are still hurting, think green...

welcome to our change the world project... ;)

7 AM California...

http://spaceweather.com/images2012/30jul12/forecasttrack_strip2.jpg

Ron Mauer Sr
30th July 2012, 20:46
for all of you Avalonians ready to start off in the wild, have any of you stocked up on vegetable seeds...

if all stores are barred shut, how would you get those 99 cent seed packs from inside?

important for long term situations and cheep...


Dehydrated food is needed in sufficient quantity to last till the next harvest. Hopefully survival groups will have gardeners with much experience.
For many, successful gardening takes many seasons to learn.
Simple hand tools are needed to prepare the soil for planting.
Best to stock up now.

Timreh
31st July 2012, 13:15
Call it disaster, call it what you will but I reckon it has to be a good thing... change sometimes hurts like hell and we can be kicking and screaming but don't we come out better for it?
We can be ignorant to life’s lessons repeatedly so until we learn the hard way either through illness, tragedy or some form of hardship.
Guess it is the same case on a collective level for mankind whatever is in store?

Besides once the dust has settled I think we may be in for the shock of our lives, pleasantly so

Timreh
31st July 2012, 13:21
Bright have watched your 4th you-tube video and wanted to thank you so much for sharing your beautiful experience.
I will watch the rest and catch your blogs over the coming days.
I hope you find the space to continue with your healing.

Chester
31st July 2012, 16:07
The collective consciousness will influence the end result--- if the majority of people who are aware of the predictions think we will be ok then they will be right because that is what they are putting creative energy to.
Ive seem the end of the world films and there is so much of it im actually immune to doom stories
Knowing that Im not the body is great help--- death of form is inevitable.
Im enjoying each day as it comes--- cant really ask for more.
Be happy.

Chris

Exactly (and only) - I don't "know" Chris, but I cannot imagine a more healthy individual - Thanks Chris for being here on Avalon

christian
31st July 2012, 16:11
The collective consciousness will influence the end result--- if the majority of people who are aware of the predictions think we will be ok then they will be right because that is what they are putting creative energy to.

Just came across this video, where the guy says the solar flares will act as a magnifying glass for whatever state you're in. I feel that is true and in my opinion, that is one reason, why this awakening is happening. People just couldn't bare the increased self-inflicted misery any longer and hence chose to consciously participate in the awakening process to get rid their increased discomfort.

hCCNpPNigVc

Rocky_Shorz
1st August 2012, 08:18
for all of you Avalonians ready to start off in the wild, have any of you stocked up on vegetable seeds...

if all stores are barred shut, how would you get those 99 cent seed packs from inside?

important for long term situations and cheep...


Dehydrated food is needed in sufficient quantity to last till the next harvest. Hopefully survival groups will have gardeners with much experience.
For many, successful gardening takes many seasons to learn.
Simple hand tools are needed to prepare the soil for planting.
Best to stock up now.

the cool thing about veggies, is most grow even if your thumb is purple instead of green...

avocados seeds, stuffed in the ground with a little water produce in a few years up to hundreds of pounds in 5 years


today when the solar flare hit, 600 million people in India lost power...


did the news mention it?


must have been lost between all the important stories...

meeradas
1st August 2012, 09:16
avocados seeds, stuffed in the ground with a little water produce in a few years up to hundreds of pounds in 5 years

Plant two, close to each other. More fruit!
They need company, it seems.

Rocky_Shorz
1st August 2012, 09:28
last year when Charles had us all pissed off the elite wanted to starve us, I started planting 50-100 Avocados a day, now driving to work, I see a bunch of 3-5 foot plants, on the verge of fruit...

there are close to 10,000 plants that will be producing 100 lbs+ next year...

I love Guac... lol

greybeard
1st August 2012, 10:11
for all of you Avalonians ready to start off in the wild, have any of you stocked up on vegetable seeds...

if all stores are barred shut, how would you get those 99 cent seed packs from inside?

important for long term situations and cheep...


Dehydrated food is needed in sufficient quantity to last till the next harvest. Hopefully survival groups will have gardeners with much experience.
For many, successful gardening takes many seasons to learn.
Simple hand tools are needed to prepare the soil for planting.
Best to stock up now.

the cool thing about veggies, is most grow even if your thumb is purple instead of green...

avocados seeds, stuffed in the ground with a little water produce in a few years up to hundreds of pounds in 5 years


today when the solar flare hit, 600 million people in India lost power...


did the news mention it?


must have been lost between all the important stories...

BBC News UK covered it but blamed it on people over using--- oh Yeah--- not just one state but three separate grids.
Chris

WhiteFeather
1st August 2012, 10:54
for all of you Avalonians ready to start off in the wild, have any of you stocked up on vegetable seeds...

if all stores are barred shut, how would you get those 99 cent seed packs from inside?

important for long term situations and cheep...


Dehydrated food is needed in sufficient quantity to last till the next harvest. Hopefully survival groups will have gardeners with much experience.
For many, successful gardening takes many seasons to learn.
Simple hand tools are needed to prepare the soil for planting.
Best to stock up now.

the cool thing about veggies, is most grow even if your thumb is purple instead of green...

avocados seeds, stuffed in the ground with a little water produce in a few years up to hundreds of pounds in 5 years


today when the solar flare hit, 600 million people in India lost power...


did the news mention it?


must have been lost between all the important stories...

BBC News UK covered it but blamed it on people over using--- oh Yeah--- not just one state but three separate grids.
Chris

I have often pondered is that after we arrest all our corrupted politicians/government officials for crimes against humanity. The Lame Stream News Media and all of its machinations/imaginations should be next on the proverbial chopping block. Just a thought.

Rocky_Shorz
2nd August 2012, 04:11
I hope Bill is right and they are all running into hiding...

other than India loosing power, the energy was redirected so the quakes were pretty small...

and for all of you watching this flare that was popping an M a day suddenly went silent as it is passing us...

it isn't luck...

astrid
2nd August 2012, 09:46
Rocky, i asked BG if he wanted me to post anything here as a response to your questions,
And this is what he wrote.


Rocky I appreciate your well considered and caring response but
I cannot respond to your questions, except to say there are many critical
moments and if it was a simple as a shifting timeline, life would be wonderful.
don't know much about Onyx, except that he may have met one more ET
race than I have. Perhaps you should ask Onyx what the creator races
- the Teal'hia, the ones I describe as the Tall Aliens (14-15 feet tall) and the
ones our creator races say seeded this universe (who are currently on Earth)
- have to say about what actions they are taking right now ?
Few humans can quiet our own mind. None of us can quiet the sun.
To believe otherwise is wishful thinking.
I am afraid I have said all I wish to say about this subject.

Best wishes to you all, Bright.

And he also reminded me again, what he told me initially,
his terms in posting this thread, that he can't engage with us here.

"I was told so many times to avoid it for my own health."

So please let us respect his wishes, we are lucky to have this thread at all ,
it nearly didn't happen, it was only under these conditions that he
posted what he has been shown/told.

I think we can agree we are blessed to have his experiences and wisdom as part of
our very special community. And this may just turn out to be one of the most
important threads ever.

Personally it's got me thinking alot, about how i live, how i use the planet's
resources, and how i spend my time generally. Frankly this thread has thrown my
life into a bit of a tail spin, in a good way, and i have been doing some serious
reassessments. I wanted to eventually live off grid anyways, so rather than being
in a panic over any potential incoming event, I'm focusing how i can live better,
more in-tune with the planet and my community.


Blessings to all
Astrid

bluestflame
2nd August 2012, 13:35
bringing the unconscious sabatage out into the conscious where we can free ouselves from its hidden agendas
out of the woodwork: into the light



The collective consciousness will influence the end result--- if the majority of people who are aware of the predictions think we will be ok then they will be right because that is what they are putting creative energy to.

Just came across this video, where the guy says the solar flares will act as a magnifying glass for whatever state you're in. I feel that is true and in my opinion, that is one reason, why this awakening is happening. People just couldn't bare the increased self-inflicted misery any longer and hence chose to consciously participate in the awakening process to get rid their increased discomfort.

hCCNpPNigVc

sdv
4th August 2012, 20:27
I have started on some research on what this solar threat is in reality (look to evidence from the past and assess the present and the projections for our immediate future).

1. There is technology to protect the electrical grid and electronics from a major solar flare (Bill Ryan, et al., has been educating us about this).
2. There is the capacity for an early warning (at least 16 hours), a back-up system and a quick recovery plan (IOW the technology and information is there).

But, such technology and such plans cost MONEY and spending money on this reduces dividends to shareholders (those who sit on their FAs and rake in the billions), so my guess is that none of the corporations who profit from supplying electricity and electronics have invested any money in this for the masses because it would reduce profits (why spend money on protecting the masses on what may happen?).

Besides, if all our electronic equipment is fried we would have to buy new so they profit.

And corporations will not have to pay for restoring the electrical grid - they will get a bailout from the government, and the money for that bailout will come from taxpayers (like the financial bailout).

The biilionaires win in every way, and the masses pay for it all in every way!

So, I am going to write letters to my electricity supplier, my Internet and telephone supplier, and perhaps also the ruling political party in my province, and ask them what contingency plans they have made for the possible solar flare disruption in late 2012 and the first half of 2013, and see what they have to say. I will keep you informed!

PS They have their underground shelters and spaceships on ready just in case they cannot contain the situation when all goes awry, so they think they have all bases covered.

meeradas
5th August 2012, 10:15
... so rather than being
in a panic over any potential incoming event, I'm focusing how i can live better,
more in-tune with the planet and my community.

And that's what this is all about.

sdv
5th August 2012, 13:32
There you go ... I got answer without having to write a letter? (and I got a few things wrong perhaps)

This report from Reuters:

http://www.timeslive.co.za/scitech/2012/08/05/space-weather-and-the-coming-storm

astrid
23rd August 2012, 13:47
Bright's latest blog posts on this crucial topic are an
important read ...

http://otherworldyencounters.wordpress.com/2012/08/17/preparing-for-a-solar-catastrophe-part-2-real-life-pragmatics/


http://otherworldyencounters.wordpress.com/2012/08/23/preparing-for-a-solar-catastrophe-part-2b-real-life-pragmatics-resources/

wynderer
23rd August 2012, 13:53
if it ends up being a solar flare wipe-out, i shall do my best to deal w/it as Woody Harrelson's character in the 2012 movie did, while standing on the edge of Yellowstone about to blow

greybeard
23rd August 2012, 14:08
if it ends up being a solar flare wipe-out, i shall do my best to deal w/it as Woody Harrelson's character in the 2012 movie did, while standing on the edge of Yellowstone about to blow

Yes Wyn I saw that and agree.
Not sure that I would want to survive in very difficult circumstances and I could well see death as an other magnificent experience.

However Im not at all sure that it is going to be a survival event.
There is a lot of evidence of past civilizations just disappearing, possibly as part of an evolution cycle.
We will find out soon enough.

Chris

Bright Garlick
23rd August 2012, 22:25
Thanks Astrid for doing that. You can also find all the relevant posts here : http://otherworldyencounters.wordpress.com/preparing-for-severe-space-weather/
There is one more post on the reconstruction period to come. Should be done in a few days.

Best wishes to you all, Bright. :wave:

astrid
24th August 2012, 00:05
Thanks Bright for continuing to post here , those last blog entries are very important ones,
looking forward to the next one.

And while this has been overwhelming at times to work through, i personally have found this
information to be extremely empowering.

Christine
24th August 2012, 04:23
I realize for most of us this is not news, however it underlines how much effort the MSM is putting into publicizing this possibility. I also noted the comment on the effects of a CME reaching earth in fifteen minutes, previously I believed we would have a day or more to prepare.

I would appreciate any clarification on this. Thanks.


Government adviser in fight to 'save Earth' against devastating solar storms expected to knock out National Grid in 2013

National Grid and GPS expected to go down if burst from sun hits our planet

Sun will reach peak of 11-year solar storm cycle next year, and magnetic storms could knock out most of Earth's electrical items.

By Eddie Wrenn

PUBLISHED: 11:37 GMT, 22 August 2012 | UPDATED: 08:57 GMT, 23 August 2012

A space professor from Oxfordshire is battling 'to save Earth' from a solar storm that experts fear will wreak worldwide chaos next year.

Professor Mike Hapgood, who chairs the Space Environment Impacts Experts Group (SEIEG) and advises the Government on space weather, says solar storms, generated by an outburst from the sun, are set to knock out national power grids and Global Positioning Systems.

He believes magnetic rays from the storm will result in widespread blackouts which will plunge homes and businesses into darkness.

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Eye of the storm: A solar eruption, with a temperature of approximately 50,000C, could take out the National Grid, along with many electrical systems across the world
It could also lead to potentially deadly knock-on effects, for instance if hydro-electric dams holding back millions of gallons of water are knocked offline.
Early next year, the sun will reach the peak of its 11-year activity cycle, which puts the planet at greater risk of such storms.

And experts say with the planet now relying on the Internet and hi-tech gadgetry, the chaos caused by the 2013 solar storm will have a far greater impact than any in the past.

Prof. Hapgood, who studied at Oxford, warned: 'A big magnetic storm can permeate the Earth's crust, which can drive electric currents through aluminum or copper wires in the National grid, which could cause a national blackout.

'Interactions with Earth's atmosphere can also affect any radio signals. If you had a big storm, GPS might be unavailable for a couple of days.

'On July 21 this year there was a very large event on the far side of the sun, if it had intercepted Earth we would have had a very large magnetic storm.

'All manner of transport relies on GPS including aircraft and if the systems suddenly collapse, there could be lethal consequences.

He said 'My main interest is to study the likely extremes in these scenarios. These are enormous events that could have a very significant effect on GDP.

'The National Grid now relies on warnings from space craft carrying equipment built at Rutherford and they are developing plans on how to evolve.'

Detecting: ACE - the Advanced Composition Explorer - observes particles of solar, interplanetary, interstellar, and galactic origins.

Magnetic storms on Earth are caused by Coronal Mass Ejections (CMEs) on the sun, where large clouds of gas held in place by the sun's magnetic field are suddenly released.

When magnetic storms permeate the Earth's crust, the direct current can meet with the alternating current in the National grid and over power transformers, causing them to malfunction.

Prof Hapgood explained there is currently one possible defense. 'It sounds counter-intuitive, but actually the National Grid could switch on the whole grid, to block the effect of extra currents.

HOW A FLARE WOULD HURT US

Unlike many recent natural disasters, a huge solar flare would cause the greatest suffering in developed countries. Plasma balls blasting out from the surface of the sun could wipe out our modern electricity grids, which would draw the energy to them like antennas and quickly overload. This would have a knock on effect on many of the systems that support our lives, including water and sewage treatment, medicine cooling, supermarket delivery, power station controls and financial markets. To rebuild the grid, the melted transformer hubs would need to be replaced but new ones take up to a year to make to order.

At present NASA's Advanced Composition Explorer (ACE) is the most important indicator of incoming space weather. It can give 15 to 45 minutes warning of geomagnetic storms and power companies need 15 minutes to prepare systems for a critical event. However, ACE is 14 years old and already operating beyond its planned lifespan with no planned replacement.

Prof Hapgood said 'We will largely lose the early warning capability.'
'At the moment we rely on one American aircraft called ACE which measures the speed of solar flares, plasma coming towards Earth, and its speed and density, but even that can only give a 20 minute warning.' Prof Hapgood warned that even though next year would bring a peak of solar activity, the Earth is always under threat. 'Next year is a peak in activity. However, we can't find a link between these peaks and the major events like CMEs. You shouldn't breath a sigh of relief and think you are safe, this is a constant risk.'

Experts are warning that the Government must make contingency plans for the solar storm which could create severe water and food shortages.

In 1859 the so-called 'Carrington event' was a magnetic storm that struck Earth - long before the Internet and GPS - and caused the failure of telegraph systems all over Europe and North America. The Northern Lights were reportedly seen as far south as Florida.

In 2009 a report funded by NASA claimed similar storms today would lead to 'planetary disaster.' The study outlined the devastating impact it would have. For instance it could leave half of the US without power within 90 seconds, without coal after 30 days and would take the country a decade to recover. Such a scenario would also cost an estimated £1.5trillion - and that would just be in the first year.
Prof Hapgood told the New Scientist magazine in 2009 that 'I don't think the report is scaremongering. This is a fair and balanced report.'

The flare emitted during the Carrington event in 1859 traveled so fast it took less than 15 minutes to reach Earth anyway.

The report's chief author Daniel Baker from the University of Colorado said he hoped it would push decision-makers into action. 'It takes a lot of effort to educate policy-makers, and that is especially true with these low-frequency events. But we are moving closer and closer to the edge of a possible disaster', he said.

VIDEO: Example of a massive solar flare flying off the sun in July 2012...

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2191936/Government-adviser-fight-save-Earth-devastating-solar-storms-expected-knock-National-Grid-2013.html#ixzz24O4F3m1U

Hervé
24th August 2012, 05:31
I realize for most of us this is not news, however it underlines how much effort the MSM is putting into publicizing this possibility. I also noted the comment on the effects of a CME reaching earth in fifteen minutes, previously I believed we would have a day or more to prepare.

I would appreciate any clarification on this. Thanks.


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At present NASA's Advanced Composition Explorer (ACE) is the most important indicator of incoming space weather. It can give 15 to 45 minutes warning of geomagnetic storms and power companies need 15 minutes to prepare systems for a critical event. However, ACE is 14 years old and already operating beyond its planned lifespan with no planned replacement.

Prof Hapgood said 'We will largely lose the early warning capability.'
'At the moment we rely on one American aircraft called ACE which measures the speed of solar flares, plasma coming towards Earth, and its speed and density, but even that can only give a 20 minute warning.'

[...]

I may be wrong but I think the apparent discrepancy comes from the two different distances:

_ Sun-Earth

_ Satellite-Earth

A solar flare can be seen when appearing on the sun and if directed towards earth, will arrive here in about a day.

However, it is the satellite which gives the relevant data on how strong the solar wind is, etc... that's the 15-45 minutes the power companies have with accurate data in hands.

Christine
24th August 2012, 17:05
From Wikipedia
The radiation risks posed by coronal mass ejections are a major concern in discussions of a manned mission to Mars, the moon, or other planets. Energetic protons can pass through the human body, causing biochemical damage, presenting a hazard to astronauts during interplanetary travel. Some kind of physical or magnetic shielding would be required to protect the astronauts. Most proton storms take at least two hours from the time of visual detection to reach Earth's orbit. A solar flare on January 20, 2005 released the highest concentration of protons ever directly measured, taking only 15 minutes after observation to reach Earth, indicating a velocity of approximately one-third light speed, giving astronauts as little as 15 minutes to reach shelter.

This is what I found from in Wikipedia, this helps explain the 15 minutes versus a day or more warning. The protons that are released can reach earth in 15 minutes and these are said to harm the human body.

I am wondering what are the effects on the body? What are these energetic protons composed of? Obviously radiation. Gamma rays being the first to reach earth.

Matts
24th August 2012, 20:48
Maybe useful for the discussion: a new documentary "Solar Revolution" (an update of "(R)Evolution 2012")
preview tomorrow in London (www.tcche.org/solarrevolution.html)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=r7jplpRKWOI

(hope the link works, it's from the website of an austrian blogger, http://z-e-i-t-e-n-w-e-n-d-e.blogspot.de)

Carmody
25th August 2012, 01:56
bringing the unconscious sabatage out into the conscious where we can free ouselves from its hidden agendas
out of the woodwork: into the light



The collective consciousness will influence the end result--- if the majority of people who are aware of the predictions think we will be ok then they will be right because that is what they are putting creative energy to.

Just came across this video, where the guy says the solar flares will act as a magnifying glass for whatever state you're in. I feel that is true and in my opinion, that is one reason, why this awakening is happening. People just couldn't bare the increased self-inflicted misery any longer and hence chose to consciously participate in the awakening process to get rid their increased discomfort.

hCCNpPNigVc

flares increase the AC alternating ripple, with regard to peak differentials. at the same time they increase the charge mass levels..at the same time they increase charge differentials. They grease the doorway and the potential for the avatar/occupant to move about.

Thus, yes, IMO and IME, like an amplifier. the physics, as tied to dimensional and reality representation, says the same thing.

Wind
25th August 2012, 05:57
If the grid goes down in my part of the world during the wintertime... Life would not be worth living. Only a very few prepared people could perhaps survive, but it would be a total nightmare. I hope for a total change to this world and I absolutely believe in ascension, but I'm pretty sure that it will come through death. At least for most of us. I look forward to transformation and if it comes through death so be it. After all this is the time of harvest of souls. My hope of a better world exceeds my fear of survival. But I'm not suicidal, just a brother of sorrow. However, I do not feel sorrow towards myself, but towards this planet and humanity.

I know deep inside me that I have ascended before and I am here to aid, but if only I could "know" and have the certainty. There is a fire burning deep down inside me, which is sparked from God. After all, there is only One.

greybeard
25th August 2012, 06:23
bringing the unconscious sabatage out into the conscious where we can free ouselves from its hidden agendas
out of the woodwork: into the light

[QUOTE=christian;530260][QUOTE=greybeard;526604]The collective consciousness will influence the end result--- if the majority of people who are aware of the predictions think we will be ok then they will be right because that is what they are putting creative energy to.


flares increase the AC alternating ripple, with regard to peak differentials. at the same time they increase the charge mass levels..at the same time they increase charge differentials. They grease the doorway and the potential for the avatar/occupant to move about.

Thus, yes, IMO and IME, like an amplifier. the physics, as tied to dimensional and reality representation, says the same thing.

Dear Carmody

This Video
By David Sereda on coast to coast am explains the physics of what may happen,
If he is right we will be ok.
Regards
Chris
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6No8HIzXRlA


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6No8HIzXRlA

Wind
25th August 2012, 09:38
David Sereda is amazing!

astrid
1st September 2012, 12:50
Bright's final blog entry on this topic, just posted..

Preparing for a Solar Catastrophe – Part 3 : The Recovery and Reconstruction

http://otherworldyencounters.wordpress.com/2012/09/01/preparing-for-a-solar-catastrophe-part-3-the-recovery-and-reconstruction/

another bob
1st September 2012, 18:13
Bright's final blog entry on this topic, just posted..

Preparing for a Solar Catastrophe – Part 3 : The Recovery and Reconstruction

http://otherworldyencounters.wordpress.com/2012/09/01/preparing-for-a-solar-catastrophe-part-3-the-recovery-and-reconstruction/

Bumping this link, well worth our consideration, IMO.

confused
16th November 2012, 16:04
It just hit me. It has been in the back of my mind every since I began to awaken - interestingly I began to awaken in 2004 through information regarding the Peak Oil scenario, which is eerily similar.

It has finally hit me. I am convinced something like this is about to occur soon. My priorities have suddenly completely shifted, for example I can really say I'm done smoking weed which is a huge things as people can see form my recent posts. I KNOW this now. I am selling everything I can, and buying what I need. Just took a day off of work to get going. Called my brother-in-law and told him in a nutshell. Talked to my mom. Not my wife yet I'll wait till she comes home.

This is crazy. Whether they are going to prepare with me or not I don't care, they will join me when the time comes. I hope we will all be nearby when it does.

The Truth Is In There
19th November 2012, 11:12
a new video from bright garlick with a summary of future events he was shown.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlNnAUBwSsQ&feature=player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlNnAUBwSsQ&feature=player_embedded

Eram
19th November 2012, 20:25
a new video from bright garlick with a summary of future events he was shown.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlNnAUBwSsQ&feature=player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlNnAUBwSsQ&feature=player_embedded

Thanks for posting this The Truth Is In There.

BG talks about future events that where predicted bye his E.T. contacts.

in a nutshell:
* The conflict between Israel and Palestine will increase, creating war in the whole of the middle east.
Israel will be without the support of the US in this. Eventually, Israel will drop the big one on Tehran, destroying the city.
The turmoil in the balance of power in the world will lead North Korea to launch a nuclear attack on the US.
These missiles will be intercepted bye UFO's.
Why the bomb on Tehran will not be intercepted is something that BG is uncertain about. He thinks that maybe human kind needs an event like this to learn from it, come to the conclusion that we need to deal with conflicts in a different way.

* The predicted CME's will occur, inflicting the most damage in China, Japan, India, Bangladesh, Indonesia and the US.
A decision bye a great collective of E.T's has been made though, to intervene to such an extend that this will not cause the extinction of the human race. Further he explains why they do not prevent the CME's in total. The earth needs energy impulses like these to keep it's core liquid and it's magnetic field strong and alive.

*Then he goes into subjects like doorways (portals), the milky way entering a space of more energy (celestial body's), his opinion about the popular views in the New-Age etc.


I really like the way that BG processes the information that the E.T.'s present him with and how he talks about it on his blog and video's.

I'll pray for a gentle transition with a minimum of loss in life.

Twinsel
20th November 2012, 01:10
We live at 7,5 miles from one

Realy... You mean the plant in Borssele?
As i'am typing right now, 100 yards away from it.

WhiteFeather
20th November 2012, 14:41
The collective consciousness will influence the end result--- if the majority of people who are aware of the predictions think we will be ok then they will be right because that is what they are putting creative energy to.

Just came across this video, where the guy says the solar flares will act as a magnifying glass for whatever state you're in. I feel that is true and in my opinion, that is one reason, why this awakening is happening. People just couldn't bare the increased self-inflicted misery any longer and hence chose to consciously participate in the awakening process to get rid their increased discomfort.

hCCNpPNigVc

Great Video Christian and thanks for this. It seems to fit well with this video i am posting. Whatever may occur or may not occur now or in the future timeline, we should still rely on the basics of Maintaining Our Spirituality and knowing ones self. As this is key! Some wise words here.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BLIEfwG0XQ

Kalamos
20th December 2013, 03:41
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