Mass Shooting in Aurora, Colorado, 7/20/2012

[modwiz]

A little bit from Veterans Today:

"My initial take is that James Holmes did not act alone. He probably wasn’t alone on the night, although he was clearly alone in the cinema. He has no known explosives expertise, eg, and it is improbable that he was able to rig an effective booby-trap, nor can anyone explain why, if he did rig it, he would defeat his object by telling the police about it. I have not seen any credible source of funding for the guns and ammunition for a guy whose last job was at a McDonalds.

Sadly Denver Police and the Denver Field Office seem with respect to have prejudiced their enquiries from the outset by obsessing on the lone gunman theory. Mass murder inquiries need to be approached with an open mind. Most are intelligence set-ups and that means either the DVD or the North Korean RDEI, the only agencies so far to have adopted this criminal and disreputable tactic. Since the RDEI tend to use only North Korean agents, sometimes false-flagged as South Koreans (as in the Virginia Tech shooting, eg) we can just about rule them out. That leaves the DVD, past masters at mass-shootings."

The whole story is here, not all of it about the shooting in Aurora.

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/07/22/216474/

[Hervé]

[...]

In it Mal from Veritas mentions that some acquaintances of his (Stan & Lisa Romanek) told him via email that some of their close personal friends (who he also named) were directly involved in the shooting and are now in hospital with serious life threatening injuries.

Mal talks about this from about 10:15 through to 11:30 in the recording.

[...]

Hi Dan,

Thanks for the info.

Link apparently not working.

Once doubt is introduced, then one has to verify if those injuries are from bullet wounds rather than the "normal" panic stampede to exits... injuries and deaths do occur following a mere "Fire" yelled in theaters.

So that, now, accuracy of information becomes crucial and critical.

[eni-al]

Don't know what to make of it all yet, not heard all the audio, but will try downloading them all soon. Perhaps I could zip them up and upload to a file sharing site if you'd like? Just in case they are inaccessible, probably be getting a lot of traffic.
Just wondering if there might be better quality, 24kbp bit rate maybe, can hear most of the voices though, so no real problem.

Listening to the first one, heard the talk of moving people in and mention of the suspects vehicle, going from start now.

Edit: Split the left and right audio of the police and fire dep. radios for anyone to hear the dialogue a bit easier :)
201207200211-662372-43_third_Left.mp3 - 5.2 MB (http://www.filehost.ws/hwbboqol6m7j) - Left channel
201207200211-662372-43_third_right.mp3 - 5.2 MB (http://www.filehost.ws/qoow9ws7ra7g) - Right channel

[Hip Hipnotist]

You would have thought there would have been news helicopters ( Denver has at least 3 I believe that can be 'on scene' within minutes ) hovering by taking 'live video' of bodies, ambulances, police etc. at the location as they usually do for events such as this -- faked or otherwise.

But none that I'm aware of. They are allowed to operate in the area as long as they remain a certain altitude above the police helicopters ( if there were any ) and don't interfere with the 'operation'. They also have to remain in communication with the local air traffic control facility as well as the police department. So there are potentially a number of reasons why they weren't there -- or maybe they were and I'm not aware of it.

I believe there were aerial photos of the scene but were taken during the day.

Also, if you remember, there WAS 'live news' helicopter video of the Colombine incident.

Personally I don't believe this Aurora incident was faked but stranger ( and much more violent ) things have been KNOWN to occur that were.

[bluestflame]

hte fact he told the police about the rigged apartment points to

a broken programming

[D-Day]

[...]

In it Mal from Veritas mentions that some acquaintances of his (Stan & Lisa Romanek) told him via email that some of their close personal friends (who he also named) were directly involved in the shooting and are now in hospital with serious life threatening injuries.

Mal talks about this from about 10:15 through to 11:30 in the recording.

[...]

Hi Dan,

Thanks for the info.

Link apparently not working.

Once doubt is introduced, then one has to verify if those injuries are from bullet wounds rather than the "normal" panic stampede to exits... injuries and deaths do occur following a mere "Fire" yelled in theaters.

So that, now, accuracy of information becomes crucial and critical.

Try the link now, should be working.

Mal mentions bullet wounds specifically... gaping holes in a victims abdomen with organs protruding and a leg "blown off" apparently by a shotgun.

post edit

10:15 - 11:30

Here: http://www.veritasradio.com/guests/2012/07jul/VS-120720-jweidner.php

[aceninja]

I won't spoil the movie but, they admitted that the Richmond/DC earthquake was really an underground explosion that caused the earth to quake.

[Hervé]

Then it becomes a real false flag event: a drill twinned to a real event.

[humanalien]

White House Suggests President Obama Will Not Push for More Gun Control



The White House signaled today that President Obama, who has seldom shown much appetite to fight with the powerful National Rifle Association, did not intend to make a push for stricter gun controls in the wake of the shootings in Aurora, Colo.


http://news.yahoo.com/white-house-suggests-president-obama-not-push-more-002905920--abc-news-politics.html




This probably means that congress will try passing new gun control laws.

[bluestflame]

if the press release says they are not going to call for tighter gun control , that sorta almost guarantees they will dun it ?

[jackovesk]

July 22, 2012 - It might interest you to know that the Dark Knight “lone shooter” was a PhD student in a CIA funded program about experimental neuroscience. He took part in those experiments and somehow, this unemployed grad student wound up with $20K of highly sophisticated military weaponry and armor and started shooting –sacrificing– innocents on a New Moon ritual. In jail, he remains convinced that he’s part of an unalterable movie script. Who gave him the equipment? Where did a neuropsych student learn how to rig such complicated bombs that could have blown up his entire apartment complex? And why did he bother to tell authorities? Classic Manchurian Candidate.

http://shiftfrequency.com/laura-bruno-some-day-theyll-give-a-war-and-nobody-will-come/#more-12562

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Aurora carnage and Bulgaria suicide bomb attack: Desensitizing psy-ops for the Olympics false flag?

Jul 22, 2012

A 24 hrs window between both attacks carried out by MK Ultra Manchurian drones. A cover up of Bulgarian authorities to hide the identity of the suicide bomber. The same cover up of Colorado authorities to hide the identity of the second shooter at the Batman premiere. Human sacrifices that happened 7 days before the London Olympics, which not by coincidence begins in the same day of the Hebrew mystic day of TISHA B’AV aka “Jewish 9-11″. I’ve put these details and some other strange coincidences that happened in the time frame of both attacks, that IMO were made with the purpose of desensitizing people for a false flag attack at London Olympics.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEemO8JMVV4&feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEemO8JMVV4&feature=player_embedded

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Holmes was clearly provided with exotic gear

Mike Adams
Natural News
July 21, 2012

Continuing from CBS:

“He said pictures from inside the apartment are fairly disturbing and the devices look to be sophisticated, adding the booby-traps were ‘something I’ve never seen.’ One rifle, two handguns, a knife, a bullet proof vest, a ballistic helmet, a gas device, a gas mask, military SWAT clothing and unidentified explosives were also found in Holmes’ car, a law enforcement source told CBS News. Oates said Holmes wore a gas mask, a ballistic helmet and vest as well as leg, groin and throat protectors during the shooting.”

In other words, this guy was equipped with exotic gear by someone with connections to military equipment. SWAT clothing, explosives, complex booby-traps… c’mon, this isn’t a “lone gunman.” This is somebody who was selected for a mission, given equipment to carry it out, then somehow brainwashed into getting it done.

http://www.infowars.com/colorado-batman-shooting-shows-obvious-signs-of-being-staged/

[karamba]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=YD4ZZLFh5Y0#!

[Cartomancer]

This situation is getting ever more complex and it may show the motivation, of this man to do this terrible thing. There has to have been a reason. Perhaps he had lost the ability to recognise the line between the games he was playing and the life he was living, especially if he had access to ways to make the game more alive to him. Perhaps it would then be acceptable to him to turn his imagined situation into a real one. It may have appeared to him as a totally logical thing to do. After all-- why had he built up a huge stockpile of weapons? Most of us do not see this sort of hoarding as something we have to do whether we are in favour of gun control or not .

This guy is a much a lone assassin as the JFK coup was. This was an operation by some governments' agency.

Why?

Cui bono? Who benefits? Whoever wants to get people thinking gun control is a good idea that society would benefit from. That any "civilized' people would really want. This is so obvious.

Some people must think Moby Dick is a venereal disease.


Thanks Modwiz, Now everytime I think of Herman Melville classic I will also think V.D

Dang, I thought Moby Dick was a Led Zeppelin song LOL!!

[Cartomancer]

If the following is proven to have any factual reality... it's sick!

Hey Amer,

Regarding the info you posted above...

You may want to listen to some comments that were made at the beginning of this Veritas interview with Jay Weidner:

http://www.veritasradio.com/guests/2012/07jul/VS-120720-jweidner.php

In it Mal from Veritas mentions that some acquaintances of his (Stan & Lisa Romanek) told him via email that some of their close personal friends (who he also named) were directly involved in the shooting and are now in hospital with serious life threatening injuries.

Mal talks about this from about 10:15 through to 11:30 in the recording.

Based on Mal's disclosure I would have to assume that the events in Denver did actually take place and were not a complete fabrication by TPTB as was suggested in the info you found/shared.

That said, I would not at all be surprised to learn that much of the post event media coverage (including eye witness accounts) was/is being fabricated and/or distorted.

Anyway, just thought you (and others here) might be interested to hear Mal's comments.

Mel seems like a reliable guy to me. The next thing you know we're going to be confronted with info that shows Mel Fabregast is and actor as well!

[SilentFeathers]

Could it be that this was nothing more than just a sick psychopath who went beyond the point of no return on his own wanting to be "somebody" other than a loser? ....thus becoming nothing but a bigger loser than he was to begin with.

There's psycho's all over the place who do sick crap like this without some top secret program causing them to be this way.

It's possible this sicko was brainwashed in to doing this.....but then again he may just simply be a sick psychopath who went on some sick power control trip all by himself.....

Everything that happens always isn't some major conspiracy all the time.....but everything that happens always can be made in to one.....

Are you sure Drake isn't somehow responsible?? :rolleyes:

This incident has the peculiar, and now familiar stink, of the deadly clowns who count on morons, rabbits (sheep don't eat their own sh1t) and contrarians to conclude that this is a lone gunman with extraordinary skill and luck. As well as two pairs of arms and hands.

And then, I could be one of those morons, rabbits or conspiracy theorists. Ya gotta place your bets as ya see fit.

Who hoo hoo knows?

It would be a trip if they tied this to Drake lol!

And I never once said anyone is a moron that doesn't agree with me, your words not mine. (but you refer to me as a moron for not agreeing with you?) Clever word playing.

Theories are a great tool for searching for and finding truth, but theories are nothing more than just theories until solid proof proves them more than theories. I just have noticed that no matter what happens now days there's a wave of theories most often that border on the same level of "wildness" as the actual event itself. Perhaps the dude was brainwashed in to doing this (as I mentioned in my post).

I suppose since I don't instantly agree that this is some massive psyops and brainwashing event and look at all other possibilities that I shouldn't even be posting in this thread :(

[Cartomancer]

Good point. I was talking to my wife about all of the stress associated with attending university. Even though I was an average student who didn't obsess over grade etc. it still caused a lot of stress I didn't even realize including recurring dreams of being registered in a class all semester and not finding out about it until final exams! I began taking classes again after a twenty year hiatus and the same dream started recurring again.

If you expect a lot out of yourself then the disappointment can be so great when you fail that my may not see any value in life for awhile. Especially if you are so intelligent and successful prior to grad school or PHD program. It is possible this man simply reached a point like that. It is valuable to consider that there is no conspiracy here as well. It just seems to have all the earmarks of something other than what we are being told. Thank you bringing this up. It is important to stay grounded when you are being assaulted with material that points a certain way.

[SilentFeathers]

Good point. I was talking to my wife about all of the stress associated with attending university. Even though I was an average student who didn't obsess over grade etc. it still caused a lot of stress I didn't even realize including recurring dreams of being registered in a class all semester and not finding out about it until final exams! I began taking classes again after a twenty year hiatus and the same dream started recurring again.

If you expect a lot out of yourself then the disappointment can be so great when you fail that my may not see any value in life for awhile. Especially if you are so intelligent and successful prior to grad school or PHD program. It is possible this man simply reached a point like that. It is valuable to consider that there is no conspiracy here as well. It just seems to have all the earmarks of something other than what we are being told. Thank you bringing this up. It is important to stay grounded when you are being assaulted with material that points a certain way.

I agree that this has many earmarks of some psyops, but I do not believe that it is impossible that this idiot snapped and did this basically on his own because he is a freaking psychopath who took his own sickness, anger, and dissapointments out on others.

It's a perfect scenario for tptb to jump on and use the media and take advantage of it (as they seem to be doing), especially with the UN gun treaty stuff coming up and election year in the works......(never let a good disaster go to waste).....as these elites often say. Its no secret they want to take our guns away, but it's foolish to think that they must have a batman psycho event to give them the power or ability to do it. All it takes is a stroke of a pen and aggressive police actions.

As many already know of me on this forum, I am not easily brainwashed in to just believing anything and think of all possibilities first.

[jackovesk]

Just have a look what the 'Australian SHEEPLE' think of America's 2nd Amendement...:faint:


17498
http://ninemsn.com.au/

These are the type of people who take an hour and a half to watch 60 Minutes...:noidea:

They just would'nt have a 'Clue'...:nono:

Whereas in Mexico who have stricter Gun Control Laws than we do...

...More than 47500 people have died in (Drug & Gun) related violence in Mexico since December 2006 and Guess What...???

They like Australia have no 2nd Amendment and Govt. Gun Control in Mexico has resulted in some of the strictest gun laws in the world. It is in many ways similar to the United Kingdom, except with much more severe prison terms for even the smallest gun law violations.

Gun Control = More Guns for the Criminals (Govt. included)


Now - STFU (Slave/Victim) and do as your Effing - TOLD...!

All Gun Control really achieves is the Good Citizens have no real comparative Defense against the Criminals thanks to the Govt's Policy...

Remember - "Guns don't kill People :nono: People do...:yes4:

Go 'Bloody Figure'...Hey...:faint:

Are some of you starting to (Get-The-Picture) yet...???

Any comeback takers...? As me good old mate 'Ted Knight' (R.I.P) used to say...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=angi1vwUkQc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=angi1vwUkQc

Its all good, just wanted to make my point is all...:)

[jagman]

James Holmes will appear in court in 30 minutes from now.

[bluestflame]

he'll be ushered away , the quantanimo bay , indefinate detension , a revealed plot prevention ....

doesn't matter if he broke programming , he won't be able to tell any one

[Earth Angel]

this article from Mike Adams on Natural News is very interesting......why did nobody fight back? not one person tried to tackle him from behind......all the time he would have needed to reload and nobody attempted to tackle him from behind........something is totally not right with this story.....also the fact that police are revealing so much information right off the bat, like its a script they've been given to feed us.....what happened to the old " no comment' ........now it seems you can't shut them up.....something very fishy about this
Also why is it there was not one police officer in sight during the 2-3 minutes of shooting but in the 60 seconds or so it took him to walk to his car they were right there to arrest him without a struggle......oh and although I took 2 weeks to booby trapping my apartment, hey fella's wouldn't want anyone to get hurt so here's a heads up on that one ;)

http://www.naturalnews.com/036537_James_Holmes_Batman_shooting.html (http://http://www.naturalnews.com/036537_James_Holmes_Batman_shooting.html)

[shadowstalker]

Colorado theater shooting suspect James Holmes appears dazed in court

http://l3.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/RYLD3LY8I.aYqeNR1ll1FA--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7cT04NTt3PTYzMA--/http://media.zenfs.com/en/blogs/thelookout/james-holmes-ap.jpg

CENTENNIAL, Colo.—James Holmes, the suspect in the Colorado theater massacre, appeared in a Colorado courtroom on Monday, three days after one of the deadliest shooting sprees in modern American history.
Arapahoe County District Court Judge William B. Sylvester advised Holmes of his Miranda rights, and that there was probable cause to continue to hold him without bond on suspicion of first-degree murder.
Holmes, who was transported from a holding cell to the courtroom via an underground tunnel, appeared dazed. His brow furrowed. His head bobbed. His eyes opened and closed often. His hair was dyed red. His hands and feet were shackled. He did not speak.
Seated in a jury box next to Tamara Brady, a public defender, Holmes never looked in the direction of a gallery that included about two dozen victims and victims advocates. Two sheriff's deputies stood watch nearby.
The preliminary hearing lasted about 11 minutes. Holmes' next court appearance is July 30, when he could be charged.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/colorado-shooting-suspect-james-holmes-appear-court-monday-111006043.html

Day 3 is done
lets see what they say on his new court date.
which will be a week from now..

[KEmpathK]

Colorado theater shooting suspect James Holmes appears dazed in court

http://l3.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/RYLD3LY8I.aYqeNR1ll1FA--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7cT04NTt3PTYzMA--/http://media.zenfs.com/en/blogs/thelookout/james-holmes-ap.jpg

CENTENNIAL, Colo.—James Holmes, the suspect in the Colorado theater massacre, appeared in a Colorado courtroom on Monday, three days after one of the deadliest shooting sprees in modern American history.
Arapahoe County District Court Judge William B. Sylvester advised Holmes of his Miranda rights, and that there was probable cause to continue to hold him without bond on suspicion of first-degree murder.
Holmes, who was transported from a holding cell to the courtroom via an underground tunnel, appeared dazed. His brow furrowed. His head bobbed. His eyes opened and closed often. His hair was dyed red. His hands and feet were shackled. He did not speak.
Seated in a jury box next to Tamara Brady, a public defender, Holmes never looked in the direction of a gallery that included about two dozen victims and victims advocates. Two sheriff's deputies stood watch nearby.
The preliminary hearing lasted about 11 minutes. Holmes' next court appearance is July 30, when he could be charged.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/colorado-shooting-suspect-james-holmes-appear-court-monday-111006043.html

Day 3 is done
lets see what they say on his new court date.
which will be a week from now..

It is as I said!!! Just another parallel to OKC bombing/McVeigh. He is dazed and confused. Didn't I say this yesterday that I suspected this would be the next official "line"?

[shadowstalker]

It is as I said!!! Just another parallel to OKC bombing/McVeigh. He is dazed and confused. Didn't I say this yesterday that I suspected this would be the next official "line"?
It is a definitive part of the pattern, not surprised at all ...lol that's why I posted it.

[SilentFeathers]

He actually looks a bit more like the Mad Hatter rather than the Joker......

While many are focusing on this event, something bigger is probably being organized and set in motion right now, It wouldn't surprise me if something else quite major and bigger than this happens before the weeks end............

[shadowstalker]

Two Aurora Shootings. - For some reason we are not hearing about the one from a few months ago.

http://thenewamerican.com/usnews/crime/item/12175-two-aurora-shootings-one-widely-known-the-other-ignored

It didn't suit TPTB that plus the guy shot himself, Maybe they didnt make a good enough story for him so it was dropped as it where..

[Cartomancer]

He actually looks a bit more like the Mad Hatter rather than the Joker......

While many are focusing on this event, something bigger is probably being organized and set in motion right now, It wouldn't surprise me if something else quite major and bigger than this happens before the weeks end............

All of this is drawing everyone's attention. Obama is in San Francisco as Bohemian Grove is in session.........................

[humanalien]

Since no one else is asking the question, i will.
Doesn't it look like James Holmes is wearing
a wig or is it just a very bad hair dye job?

[shadowstalker]

Since no one else is asking the question, i will.
Doesn't it look like James Holmes is wearing
a wig or is it just a very bad hair dye job?
Yup I thought i was just seeing things

[Earth Angel]

having been the person in charge of keeping my daughters stop sign red hair colour........this looks like a bad hair dye job........since we don't really know what his hair normally looks like it's hard to say wig or not but the colour looks like faded red manic panic


Since no one else is asking the question, i will.
Doesn't it look like James Holmes is wearing
a wig or is it just a very bad hair dye job?

[Prodigal Son]

What's really sad is that whenever I hear news like this, I immediately know that it's psy-ops and a false flag. No sooner did it come out of the TV set that I was screaming MK-Ultra. I was with my girlfriend at the time who is enlightened enough to know that 911 was an inside job, and she immediately rolled her eyes and started ridiculing, saying, "is there ANYTHING that's not a conspiracy?" And unfortunately I have to shake my head no, there isn't. If it's a major event, with real tangible repercussions, then it was planned.

Personally, I can't understand why people think this is so crazy. Does it make more sense that a human being can just flip out and do something like this on his own? Is that more comforting?

[jagman]

I actually believe James thought he was the Joker. Or he was programed to think so.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=efHCdKb5UWc

[nearing]

While many are focusing on this event, something bigger is probably being organized and set in motion right now, It wouldn't surprise me if something else quite major and bigger than this happens before the weeks end............

All of this is drawing everyone's attention. Obama is in San Francisco as Bohemian Grove is in session.........................[/QUOTE]

Really? How convenient. Hey, don't look over here....

[TargeT]

What's really sad is that whenever I hear news like this, I immediately know that it's psy-ops and a false flag. No sooner did it come out of the TV set that I was screaming MK-Ultra. I was with my girlfriend at the time who is enlightened enough to know that 911 was an inside job, and she immediately rolled her eyes and started ridiculing, saying, "is there ANYTHING that's not a conspiracy?" And unfortunately I have to shake my head no, there isn't. If it's a major event, with real tangible repercussions, then it was planned.

Personally, I can't understand why people think this is so crazy. Does it make more sense that a human being can just flip out and do something like this on his own? Is that more comforting?



it is comforting to some because if it were a conspiracy then everything they thought was true is challenged, so the default is to go with the status quo...

What I don't get is that if people REALLY DID "flip out" like this then why doesn't it happen ALL THE TIME, there's 330,000,000 people in the US, there's gotta be MORE stressed out individuals than this middle class white kid...\

[Ki's]

I personally think the shooter was mind f****d and sent in to do what he did....as a diversion and to promote the gun control issue.

Surprisingly (to me anyways) some of my acquaintances, confirmed lifelong sheeple, have come to the same conclusion. The timing for this incident is just too perfect.

[KEmpathK]

Good point. I was talking to my wife about all of the stress associated with attending university. Even though I was an average student who didn't obsess over grade etc. it still caused a lot of stress I didn't even realize including recurring dreams of being registered in a class all semester and not finding out about it until final exams! I began taking classes again after a twenty year hiatus and the same dream started recurring again.

If you expect a lot out of yourself then the disappointment can be so great when you fail that my may not see any value in life for awhile. Especially if you are so intelligent and successful prior to grad school or PHD program. It is possible this man simply reached a point like that. It is valuable to consider that there is no conspiracy here as well. It just seems to have all the earmarks of something other than what we are being told. Thank you bringing this up. It is important to stay grounded when you are being assaulted with material that points a certain way.

I agree that this has many earmarks of some psyops, but I do not believe that it is impossible that this idiot snapped and did this basically on his own because he is a freaking psychopath who took his own sickness, anger, and dissapointments out on others.

It's a perfect scenario for tptb to jump on and use the media and take advantage of it (as they seem to be doing), especially with the UN gun treaty stuff coming up and election year in the works......(never let a good disaster go to waste).....as these elites often say. Its no secret they want to take our guns away, but it's foolish to think that they must have a batman psycho event to give them the power or ability to do it. All it takes is a stroke of a pen and aggressive police actions.

As many already know of me on this forum, I am not easily brainwashed in to just believing anything and think of all possibilities first.

And they are known by their fruits. If this was all on the up and up, it was all really as they say (and I am of the mind we live in Wonderland where nothing is as it seems) then WHY the need for the obvious staged photos and fake witnesses (as we have seen) and the obvious lies and spin doctoring and the heavy duty media rewrite of this? To my mind, it seems there is only one reason. It isn't as it seems. He wasn't just some lone wacko of the McVeigh/Oswald/Loughner template.

[Fred Steeves]

He wasn't just some lone wacko of the McVeigh/Oswald/Loughner template.

And those guys were?

[Prodigal Son]

He wasn't just some lone wacko of the McVeigh/Oswald/Loughner template.

And those guys were?

You beat me to it by milliseconds....

Bundy, Manson, Dahmer, Berkowitz, etc.... all mind control victims.... nobody goes postal without serious help.

[KEmpathK]

White House Suggests President Obama Will Not Push for More Gun Control



The White House signaled today that President Obama, who has seldom shown much appetite to fight with the powerful National Rifle Association, did not intend to make a push for stricter gun controls in the wake of the shootings in Aurora, Colo.


http://news.yahoo.com/white-house-suggests-president-obama-not-push-more-002905920--abc-news-politics.html




This probably means that congress will try passing new gun control laws.


Hahaha I know right? What it means is he is too cowardly to outwardly admit this is his intent. He will leave it to his obedient minions.

[shadowstalker]

Not meaning to go OFF TOPIC but...

I find it quite odd the Heath Ledger dies of a drug over dose (depression??) while playing the Joker.
Now we have A person trying to kill folks at a Batman movie and media claims he said he was the Joker..
And now looks like he had been dosed down with something..
I can't help but think that this was in the works for a long time...

Any good or even bad actor would not fall into clinical depression while playing a fictional person..
What might have Heath been privee to that he could not handle?

[noxon medem]

Not meaning to go OFF TOPIC but...

I find it quite odd the Heath Ledger dies of a drug over dose (depression??) while playing the Joker.
Now we have A person trying to kill folks at a Batman movie and media claims he said he was the Joker..
And now looks like he had been dosed down with something..
I can't help but think that this was in the works for a long time...

Any good or even bad actor would not fall into clinical depression while playing a fictional person..
What might have Heath been privee to that he could not handle?

Heath Ledger died "long" after the movie "Batman" .

Well, to be fair , here are some other facts , disputable :

- Heath Ledger died on 22 January 2008 from an accidental
"toxic combination of prescription drugs"

- Batman , The Dark Knight was released on July 16, 2008 in Australia,
on July 18, 2008 in North America

So ,
it is kinda overlapping , since the "batman"-movie
was in postproduction on the time of his death,
and the postponed the premiere if memory
serves me well. I tend to digress and assosiate
a lot lately, so please beer with me ...

:fish2:


Ledger played a leading role in Terry Gilliams
"The Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus"
at the time of his untimely death ..


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOL-wZSCn_g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOL-wZSCn_g
( "The Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus" - Official Trailer )

&
- Facts ...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry_Gilliam
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heath_Ledger

..
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[shadowstalker]

ahh I must still be working on what the so called news was saying about his depression an what not, heard that working as the joker made thins worse hmm,
But then again doing real research with wiki is almost for not, as many things are constantly changing cuz that's where I saw it first long ago sorry

PS glad somebody caught it..

[LarryC]

White House Suggests President Obama Will Not Push for More Gun Control



The White House signaled today that President Obama, who has seldom shown much appetite to fight with the powerful National Rifle Association, did not intend to make a push for stricter gun controls in the wake of the shootings in Aurora, Colo.


http://news.yahoo.com/white-house-suggests-president-obama-not-push-more-002905920--abc-news-politics.html




This probably means that congress will try passing new gun control laws.


Hahaha I know right? What it means is he is too cowardly to outwardly admit this is his intent. He will leave it to his obedient minions.

Obama really can't win with some people. If he did push for more gun control, you'd be saying that's proof he's part of the NWO agenda. If he doesn't, it means he's cowardly or sneaky.

I feel like I'm always defending Obama here, which is kind of strange since I didn't vote for him last time and won't this year either. I just have the feeling that being anti-Obama is a kind of trap that's been set for people.

[truth4me]

Not meaning to go OFF TOPIC but...

I find it quite odd the Heath Ledger dies of a drug over dose (depression??) while playing the Joker.
Now we have A person trying to kill folks at a Batman movie and media claims he said he was the Joker..
And now looks like he had been dosed down with something..
I can't help but think that this was in the works for a long time...

Any good or even bad actor would not fall into clinical depression while playing a fictional person..
What might have Heath been privee to that he could not handle?
I also believe Holmes was drugged out because he totally looked out of it . Then again if I had done what he did I would be crying and moaning and probably be on suicide watch. I really feel bad for all those involved including Holmes for I also feel he was MKUltraed.......I still want to know how that emergency exit door was opened and if it was only Holmes then how did he get it opened.

[A Simple Human]

Oh boy, the MSM is really trying to push this "gun control" BS on the people now!

"Batman link" in arrest of Maine man with guns? (http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-57478159-504083/batman-link-in-arrest-of-maine-man-with-guns/) (CBS)

"Batman link" in arrest of Maine man with guns?
By Barry Leibowitz | July 23, 2012

http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/i/tim/2012/07/23/COURTOIS_GUNS_244x183.JPG

State Police in Maine say they arrested a man driving erratically Sunday morning with a cache of weapons in his car, including an AK-47 assault weapon, four handguns and several boxes of ammunition, CBS Boston reported.

Police said the suspect told them he attended the new Batman movie Saturday night with a loaded gun in his backpack.

http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/i/tim/2012/07/23/COURTOIS_MUG_244x183.JPG

Police said a search of the home of 49-year-old Timothy Courtois in Biddeford turned up several more guns, including a machine gun, and thousands of rounds of ammunition. Authorities said they also found recent news clippings about last Firday's shooting massacre at an Aurora, Colo. movie theater, according to CBS Boston.

Police said Courtois claimed he attended the Batman movie at the Cinemagic Theater in Saco Saturday night with a loaded gun. CBS Boston reports Courtois also allegedly told authorities when he was arrested that he was en route to Derry, NH to shoot a former employer.

Police say Courtois was stopped by Trooper Phillip Alexander in the southbound lane of the Maine turnpike about 10 a.m. Sunday in Saco, after other motorists reported a speeding Mustang with its four way flashers on. Alexander reportedly clocked Courtois at 112 mph before arresting him.

Courtois was due to make his first court appearance this afternoon in Springvale District Court on initial charges of having a concealed weapon and criminal speed.
End

Notice how the MSM downplays the following news related to death by firearm. That's because it involves police officers killing innocent citizens and animals. I'm not going to post each article, but I strongly suggest that you use each link, and read them yourself. Note, this is just a small sample of what's out there.

Your first mistake was that you were home. Your second mistake was that you answered the door! (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/17/andrew-lee-scott-dead_n_1679408.html) (Huffington Post)
Police in Florida fatally shot an innocent man, Andrew Scott, over the weekend after they mistook him for an attempted murder suspect.

You need medical assistance; we have something that will cure all your ills. (http://articles.cnn.com/2012-07-02/justice/justice_new-york-marine-shot-lawsuit_1_butcher-knife-pattern-of-police-misconduct-police-shooting-death?_s=PM:JUSTICE) (CNN)
Kenneth Chamberlain Sr., 68, was fatally shot early November 19 by police who had responded to a medical alert. Chamberlain, who was unarmed, apparently had accidentally set off the alert pendant that he wore around his neck.

We bring news; your son is dead, and now so is your dog. (http://www2.timesdispatch.com/news/2012/jul/12/tdmet03-henrico-police-shoot-pet-as-they-notify-fa-ar-2050797/) (Times Dispatch)
And in a horrific turn of events, a Henrico police officer shot and killed the Ellerbe family pitbull, Tiger, as it charged toward the officer off its leash.

Shoot first, ask questions later! (http://www.therepublic.com/view/story/b3fb14b7c20c42089fbb13777046a943/OH--Police-Shoot-Victim) (The Republic)
Police in Columbus, the nation's 15th largest city, were already on their way to approaching a record number of shootings this year when they fatally shot a man Tuesday who had reported a break-in at his apartment Tuesday. "I'm encouraging our people to respond to a suspect's actions and don't worry about statistics," Jim Gilbert, president of the Columbus Fraternal Order of Police, said Friday. "It's important to keep doing what they're doing." [Yeah, just keep killing people. You can always sort it out later.]

So yes, I believe the movie theater shooting in Aurora, Colorado was a FF attack. If it wasn't, then it's certainly being used to accomplish the same goal of "gun control" coveted by the cabal. Personally the only gun control I'm in favor of at this point is that of our police officers, as evidenced by the preceding articles.

A.S.H.

[SilentFeathers]

Its all a conspiracy, everything and all things.....nothing is real folks! It's not possible that anything just happens "naturally" or "Just because" anymore! LOL

...and the whole batman/joker shooting was just staged/false flag event done all by a bunch of actors!

The Truth EXPOSED! 1 of 3
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[9eagle9]

yeah really what does a middle class white kid got to be stressed about?

Why aren't there more poverty stricken lower class unemployed single mothers shooting up gas stations and theaters?

[Flash]

you know, when I want to know if somebody lies to me, I sometimes close or turn around and only listen to the voice, because as non verbal could be manipulated, voices rarely are.

I would be very interested to see a voice analysis of these actors/individuals. If the voices correspond, there would be no possible mistake, it would be the exact same person, if the voices are not modified before showing - which does not seems to happen up to now. (as well as iris patterns analysis are excellent, as long as no contact lenses are used).

[trenairio]

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[A Simple Human]

Some Facts about James Holmes:


Neuroscience student
gave talks on subjective reality and influencing perception of reality
only income is unemployment
buys $10,000 of military weapons, equipment, and explosives in a 2 month span
no experience with firearms and denied access to gun range
still is able to shoot like an experienced shooter
2 months to learn how to build explosives
bombs baffle local SWAT bomb squad and they had to bring in the FBI disposal team, who said that it was "the most sophisticated booby trap" that they had ever seen
no special training
Air Force officer in 911 call says "Reloads very quickly...probably military"
wearing full body armor and carrying several guns
someone lets him into the theater
see answering phone
soon afterwards gears up for attack
shots in the background of 911 calls confirm controlled bursts, and double taps with the pistol.
was also able to quickly clear multiple jams, even under the stress
2 weeks from UN vote on small-arms treaty
biggest gun massacre in several years


Soooo...

You're saying this appears to be a lone, crazed gunman looking to infamously make a name for himself, and nothing more, right?! ;) Nice post, trenairio.

[Carmody]

someone on another site put this forth as a point in perspective:

12 dead..in one spot... is still only 15% of America's daily murder quota.

And if psy-ops are involved, it is a case of it being possibly before and during..but...most definitely after the fact.

IIRC, there have been much greater losses of life in a single place by a single person (in the USA alone), this....long before we considered manipulative practices to be in place, regarding public opinion and associated attempts to steer it.

[Carl Kolchak]

Hello, I’m a new member and this is my first post so please forgive me if somebody else has already commented on this and It may be nothing at all.

I noticed that the design of the Century 16 Theatre’s neon sign logo appears to be somewhat similar in appearance to the logo on the 2012 Olympic medals, both depict random abstract lines. I am somewhat colour blind so maybe someone can confirm to me whether the colours of neon are the Olympic colours or not.

1750117502

[shadowstalker]

Welcome to Avalon

Nice catch

[bluestflame]

read something about lil wayne s filmclip having a part shot in a picture theatre and 12 skeletons in it

can't remember the name of the song

more interesting is this i found on another website
pointing out noone actually seen his face in there and there were witnesses saying he reloaded like military , like he knew what he was doing
what if it was a pro that reentered the theater after the patsy had been observed in there by enough witnesses
pro does shooting with precision then exits theatre , shortly later suspect is arrested at his car , no struggle( cos he'd been planted there waiting )


guns actually used in attack can be switched over from placeholder ones found on suspect and submitted into evidence for balistics matchup( in the changeover , high level security clearence required )

"

Corbin Dates, who was sitting in the second row of the Century 16 cinema and survived the gun attack, said he was stunned to see the suspected killer without his mask.
'It's a shock,' he told CNN. 'I did not expect taht at all. The person who was covered in black - I thought it was someone who works out, who has a history of knowing weapons.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2177881/James-Holmes-Families-The-Jokers-victims-death-penalty-watch-killers-bizarre-court-appearance.html#ixzz21VSkqClM

[jackovesk]

He actually looks a bit more like the Mad Hatter rather than the Joker......

While many are focusing on this event, something bigger is probably being organized and set in motion right now, It wouldn't surprise me if something else quite major and bigger than this happens before the weeks end............

All of this is drawing everyone's attention. Obama is in San Francisco as Bohemian Grove is in session.........................

Obama will be there with 'Bells' on, joining in on all the 'Frivolities'...:grouphug::hug::moony:

OMG - How is a 'President' to manage...:drama:

It won't be the 'Yellow Brick Road' he will be travelling UP...:nono: It will be more likely be the 'Brown Brick Road'...:yes4:

http://rense.com/1.imagesH/obamatoto.jpg

:sorry: :focus:

[Referee]

Hello, I’m a new member and this is my first post so please forgive me if somebody else has already commented on this and It may be nothing at all.

I noticed that the design of the Century 16 Theatre’s neon sign logo appears to be somewhat similar in appearance to the logo on the 2012 Olympic medals, both depict random abstract lines. I am somewhat colour blind so maybe someone can confirm to me whether the colours of neon are the Olympic colours or not.

1750117502

Nice observation. The lines on the back of the Olympic medal IMO represent the vast amount of Ley Lines that cross in the London Area. There are many videos on this subject. PM me if you are interested. However it is an interesting correlation with the Movie Theater.

PS Welcome!

[Airwooz]

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Another piece of this narrative emerged Sunday when ABC News obtained a video of Holmes making a science presentation in San Diego while in high school. The video was taken at Miramar College when Holmes was 18. He is seen giving a presentation to an audience."Over the course of the summer I've been working with a temporal illusion. It's an illusion that allows you to change the past"


My wild guess is he probably used medicine to entered another dimension and encourter some sort of inter-dimensional being, those entities subsequently owned his mind...

[Carl Kolchak]

Thank you all for the welcomes,
I have also noticed that the ribbon that the 2012 Olympic medal hangs from also depicts these abstract lines so I did a search and found this.. Quote from the official description of the medals (image below) “ Criss-crossed by lines which symbolise energy radiating out from the city” so is this energy a type of Ley Line or an occult Line of force?

17504

Was what happened in Colorado a ritual sacrifice of some sort? It seems to me that the Century 16 Theatre’s neon sign could be symbolizing this same type of energy radiating out from the city of Aurora Colorado and if something does happen in London during the Olympics then we may have a clue here that someone or something knew ahead of time. I may be and also hope that I am wrong.

[jagman]

If James Holmes has another psychotic break in reality and he becomes the joker again he will try to break out of prison.Why you might ask?
Reason, Thats what the joker would do.

[Kimberley]

I have not followed this thread...do not know if this was posted already...however I am posting this in case it was not posted already...

Much love to us all!!! :grouphug:

Conservatives Outraged Over Obama Releasing Photo of Private Visit with Aurora Victims

By: Sarah JonesJuly 23rd, 2012

http://www.politicususa.com/conservatives-outraged-obama-releasing-photo-private-visit-aurora-victims.html

And I want to add...I sure like how Obama in the video shows how he is focusing on the up side of the matter...he is showing his lightworker side... (whether you believe that or not...I see it..that is my truth and what I see... and I so know that we all do not see the same thing, however I get to share what I see and I do and I did...)

[Flash]

After reading about the 12 dead in this shoot out, I am truthfully sorry for them and their families, I do send them love and "transit" support as well as support for their families.
I am truthfully sorry as well for all the injured.

But I must say, after seeing the video of this young Holmes making a science presentation, kind of shy but intellingent, that I am very deeply sorry for him as well. Something has been going awfully wrong for him and he is paying a hefty price at the same time that others are paying with him.

Any possibilities can exist:
1. A young genius that turned out to become schizophernic
2. A desperate young man who wanted to commit a public mass suicide
3. A real genius on the verge of discovering something in neurosciences that PTB does not want to be made public
4. A prearrange work to make sure little genius works for free or disappears later on, to get him in the the secure non existing research labs for basically free labor
5. Name it....

I am still sorry for him as well.

[eni-al]

That fact sheet if medal, shows Nike, which cartomancer brought up in another thread, about a slaughter that occured at an arena

One memorable example is how Byzantine Emperor Justinian I invited 30,000 rebels to negotiate in the Hippodrome of Constantinople. Once the rebels were inside he sealed all the doors and slaughtered them all. This incident was known as the Nike (nika: win or victory in Greek language)riots. This occurred in the alignment or ley line created by the Eastern keyhole like orientation of St. Peter's square of the Vatican which 'points to' the hippodrome and Hajia Sophia in Constantinople
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?47665-Occult-Assassinations-and-Mass-Murder-Denver-murals-depict-two-mass-murders&p=526036&viewfull=1#post526036


Strange stuff.

[watchZEITGEISTnow]

100% staged psy-op

IF it happened - then the patsy was MK.

ALL ALTERNATIVE SITES ARE INFECTED WITH NSA/CIA/DoD - and you will spot them now by their stance on issues such as this one...

Be very AWARE of the stand outs - they come in groups too - to cover each other. They play the victim and are very defensive of ANY minds onto that fact.

Paranoid will be the counter argument. To me 'they' stand out. I just want 'them' to know that. And thank you for your service in helping people wake up, even though you are unaware of that fact most times.

[bluestflame]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Aurora_shootingwhat i find of note is that one of the victims , an aspiring reporter , narrowly missed another shooting a short time earlier ( weeks , months?)

and that she wrote a story of her escape

looking for it now

"An aspiring sports reporter who recently wrote a blog post about surviving a Toronto shooting was killed, the woman's brother said.

The death of Jessica Ghawi, who was also known as Jessica Redfield, was a "complete and utter shock," said her brother, Jordan Ghawi.

Jessica Ghawi, 24, moved to Denver from Texas about a year ago and friends and colleagues described her as outgoing, smart and witty.

Ghawi blogged at length about surviving the Eaton Centre mall shooting in Toronto that killed two people and sent several others to the hospital.

Jessica Ghawi wrote of the Toronto shooting: "I was shown how fragile life was on Saturday. I saw the terror on bystanders' faces. I saw the victims of a senseless crime. I saw lives change. I was reminded that we don't know when or where our time on Earth will end. When or where we will breathe our last breath."
http://www.greenfieldreporter.com/view/story/2b691651c0f84563aed52b827cbfd151/US--Colorado-Shooting-Victims

wiki reference is weird~
" 2012 shooting

Main article: 2012 Toronto mall shooting





Toronto police chief Bill Blair speaking to reporters outside the Toronto Eaton Centre after the shooting
On June 2, 2012, a shooting took place at a food court at the Toronto Eaton Centre, while the mall was heavily crowded with shoppers. Five people were shot; one of them, 24-year-old Ahmed Hassan, died at the scene and another on June 11. According to Toronto Police Chief Bill Blair, Hassan may have had gang affiliations and he and perhaps one other victim were specifically targeted. Others were injured in the panic as people fled the area, including a 28-year-old pregnant woman who began undergoing labour but did not give birth.[13][14][15]

On June 4, 23-year-old Christopher Husbands turned himself in to authorities, and was charged with first-degree murder and six counts of attempted murder in connection with the attack. At the time of the shooting, he was under house arrest. Two months prior to the shooting, he had survived an attack in which he was stabbed more than twenty times by six gang rivals.[16] A woman who was near the Eaton Centre shooting, Jessica Ghawi, was killed a month later in the 2012 Aurora shooting.[17]
this is the weird part, reads almost like it was prepared earlier ( wonder who up[dates these things ?)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toronto_Eaton_Centre

and this only four days after and so "sure " and well laid out , lot of bases covered

[Referee]

Thank you all for the welcomes,
I have also noticed that the ribbon that the 2012 Olympic medal hangs from also depicts these abstract lines so I did a search and found this.. Quote from the official description of the medals (image below) “ Criss-crossed by lines which symbolise energy radiating out from the city” so is this energy a type of Ley Line or an occult Line of force?

17504

Was what happened in Colorado a ritual sacrifice of some sort? It seems to me that the Century 16 Theatre’s neon sign could be symbolizing this same type of energy radiating out from the city of Aurora Colorado and if something does happen in London during the Olympics then we may have a clue here that someone or something knew ahead of time. I may be and also hope that I am wrong.


Check out this video it may answer some questions. Origionaly posted by Gridkeeper

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[jackovesk]

Hello, I’m a new member and this is my first post so please forgive me if somebody else has already commented on this and It may be nothing at all.

I noticed that the design of the Century 16 Theatre’s neon sign logo appears to be somewhat similar in appearance to the logo on the 2012 Olympic medals, both depict random abstract lines. I am somewhat colour blind so maybe someone can confirm to me whether the colours of neon are the Olympic colours or not.

1750117502


Thank you all for the welcomes,
I have also noticed that the ribbon that the 2012 Olympic medal hangs from also depicts these abstract lines so I did a search and found this.. Quote from the official description of the medals (image below) “ Criss-crossed by lines which symbolise energy radiating out from the city” so is this energy a type of Ley Line or an occult Line of force?

17504

Was what happened in Colorado a ritual sacrifice of some sort? It seems to me that the Century 16 Theatre’s neon sign could be symbolizing this same type of energy radiating out from the city of Aurora Colorado and if something does happen in London during the Olympics then we may have a clue here that someone or something knew ahead of time. I may be and also hope that I am wrong.

http://www.annotatedmst.com/episodes/beatniks/kolchak-main.jpg Nice bit of 'Investigative Reporting' Carl...:thumb:

Now let's see if we can (Connect...The...Dots) a little further...:)

Who are 'Century 16 Theatre’s'..?

Century 16 Theatre’s = Cinemark (NYSE: CNK)

:shocked: Who is Cinemark & Who owns them..?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/2d/Cinemark.png/200px-Cinemark.png


Cinemark was started in 1984 by Lee Roy Mitchell as a chain of theatres in Texas, Utah, and California. Through new theatre construction and acquisitions, it became the third largest theatre chain in the United States and the second largest theatre chain in the world. In 2009, Cinemark introduced its own large screen concept, known as XD, and has plans to install it in many well-performing locations around the world.

Cinemark Holdings, Inc.
Type: Public company (NYSE: CNK)
Founded: 1984
Headquarters: Plano, Texas
Number of locations: 431[1]
Key People: Lee Roy Mitchell, co-founder and Chairman of the Board
Tim Warner, President & CEO/COO

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinemark_Theatres

Lee Roy Mitchell NWO Globalist..!

http://www.dallasnews.com/incoming/20110629-nb_22cinemarkchair.jpg.ece/BINARY/w620x413/NB_22CinemarkChair.jpg

Cashless Society: Cinemark Theater Workers to Be Paid with a "Cash Card"

Infowars -

http://www.infowars.com/headline_photos/April/cashcard.jpg

From a Listener:

I work at a theater in the Cinemark Movie Theater chain based out of Plano, Texas. I believe it is the third largest theater chain nationwide and the largest privately owned, although they are trying to go public.

I am writing to inform you, your many listeners, and viewers that this company is about to change the way its employees get paid. In the matter of a few more weeks no longer can they get paper paychecks, they have to either get direct deposit or a "PayCard" which they will either have to use in ATM machines, use as a calling card, or to purchase things, then the employees have the option of using credit card-like cash advance checks to get all their money. Even with that choice there are charges involved. There is a rumor that we won't even be able to get paper paystubs unless we go to an ATM.

If you would like to examine the article in the employee newsletter for yourself it can be read at:
http://www2.cinemark.com/vitascope/dec2003/newstoknow.htm

Thank you for your time and keep up the good work spreading the word against the New World Order.

A faithful listener
..........................................................

From the Cinemark Newsletter:

Premiering at your theatre soon!
The Cinemark PayCard by ComData!

Frequently Asked Questions About The Cinemark PayCard


Q: What Is The Cinemark PayCard?
A: It is a new way for our Team Members to receive bi-weekly pay. Instead of getting paper checks each payday, Team Members who are not on direct deposit will now get paid via the Cinemark PayCard. Team Members will still receive pay stubs each pay period.

Q: Why are we Switching to this Method?
A: After the events of September 11th and the challenges they presented in getting paychecks distributed to our Team Members, we felt that this service was a good option for ensuring that Cinemark's Team Members are always paid on time – even during times of national crisis. During those times when we experience national crises, natural weather disasters and/or problems with transportation (FedEx/UPS/Airborne/U.S. Mail), our Team Members can rest assured that they will be paid on time, without interruption.

Rest of Q & A on Cashless Card here...
http://www.infowars.com/print/cashless/cashcard.htm

PS - Anyone following me so far..???

PSS - Forgot to mention Lee Roy Mitchell has his (Own Bank) aswell...:faint:

http://media.corporate-ir.net/media_files/IROL/13/135307/logo.gif

After opening Austin and San Antonio banks, private placement adds well-known area shareholders

DALLAS - After opening new locations of its Texas Capital Bank in Austin and San Antonio, Dallas-based Texas Capital Bancshares, Inc. has added 180 new investors to its ranks of high profile shareholders.

Major shareholders in Texas Capital Bancshares, Inc. include:


EDS and Goff Moore Strategic Partners - a partnership of Richard Rainwater,
Dallas businessman Rusty Rose,
Houston Astros owner Drayton McLane,
Kansas City Chiefs owner Lamar Hunt Sr., and
Lee Roy Mitchell, chairman of Cinemark USA.

Approximately one-third of the new capital came from existing shareholders, including all of Texas Capital Bancshares original founders and all of its current board members.

http://investors.texascapitalbank.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=135307&p=irol-newsArticle_Print&ID=462789&highlight=

[jackovesk]

I have not followed this thread...do not know if this was posted already...however I am posting this in case it was not posted already...

Much love to us all!!! :grouphug:

Conservatives Outraged Over Obama Releasing Photo of Private Visit with Aurora Victims

By: Sarah JonesJuly 23rd, 2012

http://www.politicususa.com/conservatives-outraged-obama-releasing-photo-private-visit-aurora-victims.html

And I want to add...I sure like how Obama in the video shows how he is focusing on the up side of the matter...he is showing his lightworker side... (whether you believe that or not...I see it..that is my truth and what I see... and I so know that we all do not see the same thing, however I get to share what I see and I do and I did...)

How does such an attractive & intelligent woman become so 'Brainwashed & Gullible'...:faint:

...or is it nothing but 'Wishful Thinking'...:confused:

Please let me know, before I call the behavioral health system in Massachusetts or worse still Danvers State Hospital, also known as the State Lunatic Hospital...:pound:

[jackovesk]

http://www.latinol.com/media/contenido/images/century16.jpg

Why on Earth would anyone pick "CENTURY 16" as a name for a movie theatre...:confused:

Let's see Why..?

Shall we have a look at the 'NUMBERS'...:)

CENTURY 16

Tip 16 upside down = 91

CENTURY is 100.

You get 91 1 00

Batman clip SEEN RIGHT BEFORE 911 happened!!!!!!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZN-dqBFsZk&feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZN-dqBFsZk&feature=player_embedded

If you listened Carefully to the Clip 'above' - Yes, things 'Are Heating Up' indeed..!

PS - Coincidence...:confused:

:nono: I don't think so...:secret:

:director: HELLO - Bueller - anyone...:faint:

[Spiral]

Colorado suspect’s secret messages describe 'victim shooting fantasy'

http://cdn2-b.examiner.com/sites/default/files/styles/image_content_width/hash/ec/d0/ecd0d357d1e18cdaebe47feb7c2acb48.jpg


Colorado shooting
james holmes
FBI
MKULTRA
forensic analysis

A new video shows how messages encrypted backwards in human speech may relate to the Batman movie premiere shooting that took place in Colorado early last Friday morning on July 20, 2012. Expert forensic audio analysis of alleged Colorado Batman shooter James Holmes’ 2006 Miramar College science camp presentation reveals the suspect’s potential unconscious preoccupation with violent fantasies six years before the tragedy which police say left 12 dead and 58 injured. Mr. Holmes was photographed appearing dazed and confused at the Arapahoe County Courthouse earlier today.

Read More, http://theufobureau.com/the-latest-ufo-and-alien-news/colorado-suspects-secret-messages-describe-victim-shooting-fantasy-examinercom (http://theufobureau.com/the-latest-ufo-and-alien-news/
colorado-suspects-secret-messages-describe-victim-shooting-fantasy-examinercom)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LznUGlrRvrk&feature=youtu.be&hd=1

[Spiral]

Has anyone seen this, it could have been him going out to his car of course, but a phone call ? Trigger words ?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hhev_9vmh7I&feature=player_embedded

[witchy1]

There is a short video of his appearance in court. He is definately dazed and looks like hes just waking up to whatever happened.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/7335839/Batman-movie-shooting-suspect-in-court

[watchZEITGEISTnow]

CENTURY 16 = 116 UPSIDE DOWN = 911 ! fark eh!
[link to www.latinol.com]

Century 16


=


116

NOW TURN THAT MOTHER UPSIDE OWN!

bam!

911!

[Wind]

Distractions, distractions... That's what these "acts of terror" are. Do not play their game which is fear. Fight back with love and light!

[jackovesk]

CENTURY 16 = 116 UPSIDE DOWN = 911 ! fark eh!
[link to www.latinol.com]

Century 16

=

116

NOW TURN THAT MOTHER UPSIDE OWN!

bam!

911!

:attention: & this...

The shooting was in THEATRE 9.

9 = IX

Put the I on the X and you get the CHI RO...

Chi-Rho (Monogram of Christ)

Christian Symbols Illustrated Glossary.The Chi-Rho is the oldest known monogram for Christ.


Chi-Rho is the oldest known monogram (or letter symbol) for Christ. Some call this symbol the "Christogram" and it dates back to the second century Roman Emperor Constantine. Though the truth of this story is questionable, it is said that Constantine saw this symbol in the sky before an important battle, and he heard the message, "By this sign, conquer."

Thus, he adopted the symbol for his army. Chi (x =ch) and Rho (p = r) are the first three letters of "Christ" or "Christos" in the Greek language. Though there are many variations of the Chi-Rho, most commonly it consists of the overlaying of the two letters, and oftentimes is surrounded by a circle.

http://0.tqn.com/d/christianity/1/7/a/2/Christian_Chi_Rho.png

http://christianity.about.com/od/symbolspictures/ig/Christian-Symbols-Glossary/Chi-Rho.htm

PS - :scared:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzlG28B-R8Y
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzlG28B-R8Y

[watchZEITGEISTnow]

haha! awesome!!

[jackovesk]

Distractions, distractions... That's what these "acts of terror" are. Do not play their game which is fear. Fight back with love and light!

1st of all I'd like to start off by including this icon:faint:and respond by saying 'Heard that One' before...:)

If you have'nt seen this StarSeed you should, because it goes a whole lot Deeper than the use of 'Love & Light' to quell 'Forfeiture & Fear'...

Now, If we only understood the 'Secret & Hidden Knowledge'..? We may just get some more Scope & Depth into the message and not just repetative 'One Liners'...

Enjoy...:tea:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_0g0Oh94jQ&feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_0g0Oh94jQ&feature=player_embedded

PS - There are signals/switches/coincidences in life that may just 'Spark' that brain of ours over into utilising the dormant 'Knowledge' we have always known...:yes4:

Is the video 'above' sharing some of those secrets..???

Well, I'll let you be the judge...

Tip: Switch-Off the (Olympic 2012) theme to the video and focus the mind into watching & listening to the hint of (Energy Transformation) in its purest form (The 'Void' of Cohesive Consciousness)

PSS - What you must remember Starseed is, we are not discussing such subjects out of :scared: FEAR :fear: we are tackling these 'Problems Head-On' in search of (Understanding & Enlightenment)...

What is it just, that the PTW/OWO really don't want us to know...?


To truely 'Know Oneself' try asking these Questions...

1. (Can I? Who am I? What am I?) 2. (Let me Think, As I am, So I am Not) 3. (Yes I can, As we are, So I am)...See now, that wasn't too hard now was it..?

The 1st Motion of the 'Tachion' pairs state "Can I Go", the 2nd Motion, "Let me Think", and the 3rd and Final motion "Yes I Can" are all statements of How the 'Subatomic' particles operate in 'Creation'..!

Simple Summary:

"Who am I, What am I, As I am, I am Not but as We Are I AM"

Do we Remember which President used this Formula, only to decieve his constituents..? (Yes We Can)...:yes4:

So 'Love & Light' to you too...:yo:

[Fred Steeves]

Has anyone seen this, it could have been him going out to his car of course, but a phone call ? Trigger words ?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hhev_9vmh7I&feature=player_embedded

I think it would have been the alert call that the real shooter was ready, as to not leave him hanging outside the door any longer than necessary. Afterwards, the weapons used are given to Holmes, who is dressed identically and believes he is the shooter, with instructions to go shoot as many cops as possible.

Only 'problem' was, the part of his programming to be a vicious killer broke down at the critical point...Something inside of him even deeper than the programming said: "I just can't do it".

[SilentFeathers]

Now the paranoia and fear sets in! It would be best just to roll in the TSA body scanners in to all theaters across the nation now to "make everyone safe"....probably wouldn't hurt to do background checks on all movie goers, weld shut all exit doors, and have armed military personnel at all theaters from now on too!

The government must protect us from OURSELVES at all costs!!!!!!! It's getting pretty dangerous "out there" to even walk your doggy down the street now days!!!!

'Dark Knight' showing halted in Bergen County because of unusual activity near emergency door
http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2012/07/dark_knight_showing_halted_in.html

Has any one checked to see if the owners of these theaters have stock in the companies that make body scanners?

I also find the symbolism and numerology quite interesting about this event.....thanks you'all for pointing those things out.

[Alie]

From http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=310507805712063&set=o.137466796377979&type=1&theater

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[jackovesk]

Much more will be learnt about the 'Human Consciousness & Psyche' this year in 2012...

All the 'Answers' to the Mass Shooting in Denver 7/20/2012 can already be found on this 'Thread'...

Picture yourself 'Flying' :neo: amongst the Skies, Stars & Heaven will unlimited imagination...

In doing so 'Take In' the Sites & Sounds, BUT whilst your at it (Go Within) quiet ones Mind and Open Ones Ears & Eyes to the Ether of 'Truth'...

Keep On Opening your 'Awareness' to allow the 'Free & Ancient 'Knowledge' to flow through your entire being so it can be 'Shared' with everyone who needs to hear it...

PS - Geez, I have a lot of fun (In my Own Mind) I have been laughing and carrying on all day without interuption...:typing:

I sometimes wish some of you could have as much fun...:)

This post is (All Over The Shop) but I'm still having fun...:thumb:

Believe it or Not, I try to leave a 'Pertinent Message' in every single post I write...

Trouble is sometimes they're pretty 'Hard to Find'...:pound:

If your not Looking, Your not Finding & if Your not Finding..? Your not Looking...:faint:

:director: Enough already Jackovesk, and leave these poor people alone...

Ok seeya :wave: :neo:

[OBwan]

Angel over Aurora

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[Fred Steeves]

Keep On Opening your 'Awareness' to allow the 'Free & Ancient 'Knowledge' to flow through your entire being so it can be 'Shared' with everyone who needs to hear it...


Nice one Jack, ancient knowledge does seem to be oozing out of the ether. The shields are coming down, and the playing field is leveling.

Sorry, just had to toss that in there. Back to topic.http://nexus.2012info.ca/forum/images/smilies/newadditions/smile.gif

[Chester]

Has anyone seen this, it could have been him going out to his car of course, but a phone call ? Trigger words ?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hhev_9vmh7I&feature=player_embedded

I think it would have been the alert call that the real shooter was ready, as to not leave him hanging outside the door any longer than necessary. Afterwards, the weapons used are given to Holmes, who is dressed identically and believes he is the shooter, with instructions to go shoot as many cops as possible.

Only 'problem' was, the part of his programming to be a vicious killer broke down at the critical point...Something inside of him even deeper than the programming said: "I just can't do it".

Funny - but I know that feeling. In late December I found myself hanging outside a 33 floor window with nothing but my arms wrapped around the steel rail between the two open windows and my toes on the three inch ledge... I was at the height of a psychotic state (which I am now aware was archontically induced) and where I had "to kill myself to save the world." A voice raging inside my head "Do it! Do it!"

And then I asked... what if this is just some silly test and the real truth is that I had to overcome these insane instructions to save my children's world and my wife's world... I had promised my sons I wouldn't do what my Dad did. And I knew my wife depended on me.

Somehow I scrambled back inside.

But my point is - I was being driven to this by some psychotic state, voices in my head and an incredible desire to "do the right thing" no matter what harm it may cause me personally. To save the world.

How insane?

No, how incredible it is these archontic influences and yet how incredible it is that they can be overcome.

How could I have so rapidly recovered my sanity since that day? Discovery of the true cause and the decision to eliminate that cause from ever influencing me that way again. It all started with Houman's Horus-Ra thread on April 26th. If I can recover, anyone can. justone

Edit - just noticed this happens to be post 333 after writing about floor 33 in my post and thinking of my 3 sons.

[jackovesk]

http://media.masslive.com/entertainment/photo/heath-ledger-joker-dark-knight-a69be39543ded6fb_large.jpg

The JOKER tells you EVERYTHING you NEED to KNOW about the Illuminati & Mind Control Programing and what just happened in (Denver)...:yes4:


Heath Ledger Quote from (The Dark Night):

"You know, you know what I Noticed, (NOBODY PANICS) when things go according to plan..! Even if the plan is (HORRIFYING)..! If tommorow I tell the PRESS that like a Gangbanger will get Shot or a Truck load of Soldiers will be 'Blown-Up' (NOBODY PANICS) because its all...(PART OF THE PLAN)..!

BATMAN is a representation of SATAN..!

BATMAN RISING is the Demon God rising..!

The Dark Knight Illuminati Movies


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpbZU9xMqpA&feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpbZU9xMqpA&feature=player_embedded

PS - Catching On yet..?

Heath Ledger is Dead Now - Was (He-Too) another Illuminati sacrifice..?

PSS - The 'EyE' analogy at the start of the 'clip' is bogus, the rest of the 'clip' is Ok..:yes4:

Pay Attention to (ALL) the written lines spoken (Word for Word) by (ALL) The Jokers...Illuminati 101...:yes4:

[jackovesk]

From http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=310507805712063&set=o.137466796377979&type=1&theater

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http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=17505&d=1343134604&thumb=1

:bump:

http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff32/evildrew81/scary%20stuff/Joker.gif

[SilentFeathers]

Since this MUST be some form of pre-arranged psyops, hmm? Let’s connect some more dots….

Why did this happen in Aurora, CO ?

Someone earlier in this Thread mentioned Drake, well, I found a Drake/Cobra/Galactic Federation connection! I knew if I looked hard enough I'd find that Drake was somehow involved in this shooting! Lol!


Aurora Unit, an element of the game Metroid Prime 3: Corruption
The events in Metroid Prime 3: Corruption take place six months after Metroid Prime 2: Echoes. The game's protagonist, Samus Aran, is a bounty hunter hired to assist the Galactic Federation during its ongoing conflict with the Space Pirates.

Plot
Metroid Prime 3: Corruption begins with a meeting between Samus, three other bounty hunters, and Admiral Dane, leader of the Galactic Federation fleet. The bounty hunters, including Samus, receive orders to clear a computer virus from several supercomputers, called Aurora Units, located throughout the galaxy, but the meeting ends abruptly when Space Pirates attack several Federation ships.

Sounds to me a bit like the story in the Drake thread about the Galactic Federation of Light doing battle above us right now folk’s!!!!!

Seems like we are indeed living in a virtual reality!

Also;
In Roman mythology, Aurora, goddess of the dawn, renews herself every morning and flies across the sky, announcing the arrival of the sun. (There are also some pictures of Aurora as the symbol of Virgo).

From Homer's Iliad :
Now when Dawn in robe of saffron was hastening from the streams of Okeanos, to bring light to mortals and immortals, Thetis reached the ships with the armor that the god had given her.

PS: if ya look hard enough for something you'll surely find it :)

[Cartomancer]

Now the paranoia and fear sets in! It would be best just to roll in the TSA body scanners in to all theaters across the nation now to "make everyone safe"....probably wouldn't hurt to do background checks on all movie goers, weld shut all exit doors, and have armed military personnel at all theaters from now on too!

The government must protect us from OURSELVES at all costs!!!!!!! It's getting pretty dangerous "out there" to even walk your doggy down the street now days!!!!

'Dark Knight' showing halted in Bergen County because of unusual activity near emergency door
http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2012/07/dark_knight_showing_halted_in.html

Has any one checked to see if the owners of these theaters have stock in the companies that make body scanners?

I also find the symbolism and numerology quite interesting about this event.....thanks you'all for pointing those things out.

Good points. It won't take long for this to simply be an excuse for the police to run your warrants. Just like the Patriot Act. As soon as they got that local law enforcement began abusing it immediately in a way it definitely was not meant to be applied. Its all about an excuse to be able to grab your genitals it seems. "Oh boy, now we can increase revenue by arresting people for nothing at the movie theater-and we get to grab their junk."

[Cartomancer]

There is lots of info about the symbolic interpretations of the incident on this thread as well:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?47665-Occult-Assassinations-and-Mass-Murder-Denver-murals-depict-two-mass-murders

[jackovesk]

Suspected Colorado killers' bizarre first appearance in court

Jul 23, 2012

Colorado massacre suspect appears in court.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_vylDirSK0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_vylDirSK0

PS - Batman Shooter James Holmes Was On Hardcore Pharmaceutical Drugs

http://naturalsociety.com/wp-content/uploads/batmanshooter-235x147.jpg

Like virtually all massacre shooters before him, the notorious Batman shooter James Holmes is now reported to have been taking hardcore pharmaceutical drugs. In Holmes’ case, they happen to be the very same drugs that ultimately led to the early death of actor Heath Ledger. With a fix for ‘altering his state of mind’, the ‘Batman shooter’ was heavily hooked on the prescription painkiller Vicodin. Holmes even reportedly dosed up on a pharmaceutical cocktail just before the shooting.

Side effects of Vicodin use, even at ‘recommended’ levels which Holmes likely far exceeded, include ‘altered mental states’ and ‘unusual thoughts or behavior’.

http://naturalsociety.com/batman-shooter-james-holmes-on-pharmaceutical-drugs/#ixzz21UW2S6g2

[Cartomancer]

Its amazing how they took these guys and turned them into something ugly and dark. The original Batman was known as the Dark Knight because at first the police thought he was a bad guy because he kept showing up at crime scenes. Eventually they realized he was a good guy and this part of the comic wasn't emphasized any longer. Hollywood has chosen to emphasize the darker attributes of the character based only on this.


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[AlternativeInfoJunkie]

From http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=310507805712063&set=o.137466796377979&type=1&theater

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I bet CNN won't interview this guy. I bet the mainstream media will avoid him like the plague.

[sleepy]

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[Cartomancer]

http://mapq.st/Ml0HvN

This is just about the best post on the whole forum. Very mysterious.

[sleepy]

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[Ki's]

"PS - There are signals/switches/coincidences in life that may just 'Spark' that brain of ours over into utilising the dormant 'Knowledge' we have always known..."

I am unable to post a picture, so I will try a link.

http://mapq.st/Ml0HvN

In the upper left hand corner is an obelisk set in a sun. The lower right hand corner is the theater.

OK, I'm not getting it. All I see is roads. What am I missing here?

[Leon]

The media love this stuff...

why do people do these sort of shooting?

Because they get attention. they get their 15 minutes or more of fame...

everyone always blames the gun? the gun was the instrument used it is not the cause of the problem... using a gun gets attention this is why people who want to do this buy a gun or more...
they can just as easily use a car, and if he has a few drinks , he more then likely will get away with it. but then we don't blame the car??? wtf?
it's not so interesting..
movies give people the idea of using guns to do this sort of thing, and the media makes them famous!!!

so why don't we blame it on the real problem? because blaming it on guns is easier then blaming it on the real problem.

social pressure, social attitudes, movies, fame etc... maybe someone here can think of some more...

they blame guns because they also know it pisses a lot of people of... and it get's attention..

[sleepy]

xxxxx xxxxx

[SilentFeathers]

"PS - There are signals/switches/coincidences in life that may just 'Spark' that brain of ours over into utilising the dormant 'Knowledge' we have always known..."

I am unable to post a picture, so I will try a link.

http://mapq.st/Ml0HvN

In the upper left hand corner is an obelisk set in a sun. The lower right hand corner is the theater.

OK, I'm not getting it. All I see is roads. What am I missing here?

Switch your view from map to satellite. You will only see the sun that obelisk is placed in, not the obelisk because it is a satellite view. I will try to post a picture of it from google earth.

I had to drag the map a little bit, but I found it. That is really strange to say the least!

Almost looks like 12 statutes in the 3 gray areas to the very near south east of the obelisk, that's weird too.

There's also 12 rays coming from the sun that the obelisk is sitting in too, hmmm?

Picture of obelisk "Aurora Dawn" near theater

http://i.imgur.com/fvmAy.jpg

[bluestflame]

looks lke an offering to the gods to me

[TargeT]

You can ALWAYS count on WIRED to give a good feel for the direction of the controlling parties in this country, its a very biased site that "tips the hand" quite often...


Aurora’s Arsenal, Explained: Feds Can’t Track Stockpiled Guns


If you want to kill large numbers of people, you should seriously consider buying a handgun or assault rifle. As the movie-theater massacre in Aurora, Colorado demonstrated, chances are federal law enforcement and homeland security and counterterrorism agents won’t see you amassing an arsenal of assault rifles, handguns and ammunition.

Longtime law enforcement and intelligence veterans say that the feds simply don’t have ways of spotting stockpiles of firearms. It stands in contrast to their successful post-9/11 efforts at stopping the spread of bomb precursors like chemical fertilizer.

There is no watchlist that captured Aurora suspect James Eagan Holmes, who appeared in court on Monday, as he spent thousands of dollars on AR-15s, Remington shotguns, Glock pistols and body armor. Holmes did much of his ammunition shopping online, where he purchased thousands of bullets and hundreds of shells with what the New York Times called “a few keystrokes.”

In short, one of the most useful tools for killing people is effectively excluded from the attention of federal agents who have received sweeping powers over the last decade to prevent mass-casualty events. “I don’t know of anything” about Holmes’ gun purchases “that would’ve notified law enforcement as a matter of policy right now,” says Jack Cloonan, a retired FBI counterterrorism agent.


It doesn’t work this way with bomb precursor material. While there isn’t a government database of the stuff, the FBI and affiliated law enforcement agencies have spent countless hours convincing manufacturers, distributors and retailers to alert the authorities when suspicious or anomalously large purchases of chemical fertilizer or other potential explosives occur. “You would know a lot more about people who buy chemical fertilizer than people who buy firearms,” says Aki Peritz, a former National Counterterrorism Center analyst.

“There are protocols in place, voluntary ones, for people to call in to the Department of Homeland Security” when potential explosives get bought in bulk, adds Cloonan. “Every time there’s an uptick in the terror warning, they have robust — and I mean robust — outreach” up and down the supply chain for potential explosives.

Those alerts apply to people with criminal backgrounds or who are on terrorist watchlists, as well those who don’t. It doesn’t work the same way with firearms. There is no federal database of gun owners or gun purchasers. The Firearms Owners Protection Act of 1986 prohibits the feds from maintaining one. But there are a few exceptions that give law enforcement and intelligence and counterterrorism agents some visibility into private small-arms stockpiles.

First, when someone seeks to buy a gun or rifle from a licensed gun dealer, federally mandated background checks will pick up if the suspected purchaser is on a terrorism watchlist. If so, his or her name will get sent to the FBI’s Terrorist Screening Center. That’s an internal Justice Department practice, not an alert that the gun dealer has anything to do with; indeed, the purchaser won’t know that his name resides in the data banks at the Terrorist Screening Center. However, people on terror watchlists can buy guns.

Another exception, for those that aren’t on terrorist watchlists and don’t have criminal records: Someone seeking to buy two or more of certain kinds of rifles — semi-automatics; calibers higher than .22; detachable magazines — will attract the attention of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (ATF) along four southwest states bordering Mexico. So will someone who tries to buy two or more handguns within five days, wherever the sale occurs. The ATF can retain information on those individuals for up to two years, if there’s no active investigation resulting from it. Several counterterrorism sources consulted for this story were unclear as to whether intelligence or counterterrorism operatives could access that ATF data.

Ammunition purchases, however, are functionally unregulated and off-limits to federal law enforcement. The only way law enforcement would know about bulk ammo purchases is if the dealer decides he or she is dealing with a shady customer and alerts the authorities.

By contrast, when convicted would-be subway bomber Najibullah Zazi emailed a contact in Pakistan who was under U.S. surveillance for ties to terrorism, an FBI agent near Zazi knew within hours. That agent’s home? Aurora, Colorado.

This may help explain why the primary mode of mass murder in the United States in the post-9/11 world remains a single shooter using an assault weapon or handgun. Holmes will soon face charges for shooting 71 people, at least 12 fatally, on Friday in Aurora. Nidal Malik Hasan, an Army major, used an FN Herstal 5.7 tactical pistol to kill 13 people and wound another 29 in his 2009 Fort Hood, Texas shooting rampage. Seung Hui Cho outdid them both: he killed 32 students and faculty members at Virginia Tech in 2007 before turning his gun on himself. Jared Loughner shot 19 people in Tucson last year, including U.S. Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords.

“If you’re concerned with people stockpiling weapons, you have to have some sort of way to maintain a database on this,” says Peritz, now an analyst with the Third Way think tank in Washington. “Current law does not allow this. I love the Second Amendment as much as the next guy, but it would be nice if law enforcement had some inkling of a guy sitting on a mountaintop of guns.”Update, 10:25 a.m., July 24: Text updated to reflect that information about multiple-rifle purchase only applies to certain kinds of rifles for sales occurring in four southwest states bordering Mexico.



http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/07/aurora/

[Cartomancer]

"PS - There are signals/switches/coincidences in life that may just 'Spark' that brain of ours over into utilising the dormant 'Knowledge' we have always known..."

I am unable to post a picture, so I will try a link.

http://mapq.st/Ml0HvN

In the upper left hand corner is an obelisk set in a sun. The lower right hand corner is the theater.

OK, I'm not getting it. All I see is roads. What am I missing here?

Switch your view from map to satellite. You will only see the sun that obelisk is placed in, not the obelisk because it is a satellite view. I will try to post a picture of it from google earth.

I had to drag the map a little bit, but I found it. That is really strange to say the least!

Almost looks like 12 statutes in the 3 gray areas to the very near south east of the obelisk, that's weird too.

There's also 12 rays coming from the sun that the obelisk is sitting in too, hmmm?

Picture of obelisk "Aurora Dawn" near theater

http://i.imgur.com/fvmAy.jpg

That's almost unbelievable. I wonder if it is part of the city administration complex just to the northeast of the theater? That's all lined up like a miniature State Capitol array or something. That obelisk obviously is the goddess and a Prometheus/light bearer theme all wrapped into one. Perhaps Goddess Columbia as Freeman would define it? This is very strange. They sure like their esoteric imagery in that region.

[Cartomancer]

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White line City Admin. complex to obelisk

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Obelisk w/ red line pointing to theater

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The City Administration complex points to the obelisk! Red line is to theater. Array around obelisk seems to point to theater. Is this a coincidence? This is talismanic.

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Aurora Goddess of the Dawn. Jordan Maxwell talks about the significance of the dawn in the occult.

[SilentFeathers]

Deleted, wouldn't copy image

[Hip Hipnotist]

Its amazing how they took these guys and turned them into something ugly and dark. The original Batman was known as the Dark Knight because at first the police thought he was a bad guy because he kept showing up at crime scenes. Eventually they realized he was a good guy and this part of the comic wasn't emphasized any longer. Hollywood has chosen to emphasize the darker attributes of the character based only on this.


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Many years ago I co-wrote & co-directed a film in which the original Batman, Adam West, appeared.

We had many interesting conversations about the character he portrayed as well as The Joker and all the rest.

What got me thinking about all this after all these years was the title of the film:

"One Dark Night".

Go figure.

[nearing]

Have you guys seen this yet?

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[TargeT]

Have you guys seen this yet?

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Wow... very interesting find, I wonder if there's any other comparative photos.



**Edit**

after reviewing other photo's it appears this is just due to the angle, I'd dismiss this as nothing.

[SilentFeathers]

Have you guys seen this yet?

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Looks like two different dudes to me.....

Could be something fishy going on here folk's :)

Regardless of what's really go on with this case, we are still all victims of propaganda no matter how you look at it.

James Holmes' Goofy Behavior Sign of Psychosis or Faking It, Expert Says
http://gma.yahoo.com/james-holmes-goofy-behavior-sign-psychosis-faking-expert-142209134--abc-news-topstories.html

[jackovesk]

Have you guys seen this yet?

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=17517&d=1343181756&thumb=1

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Yep good find...

But...

Can you go and do a little exercise for me..?

As I just did...


Go to the bathroom and look into the mirror

Take note of both facial expressions (Left: Smile Right: Pout)
Notice how when you Smile your nose flares out a bit as we can see in the photo on the left...:yes4:
Now pout your lips as in the Right hand photo and watch your nose narrow...:yes4:

These photos are of the same person...(note: the shine on the tip of his nose doesn't change and the bridge of his nose is the same)

Conclusion:

IMHO, no cloning going on here...:noidea:

[SilentFeathers]

Have you guys seen this yet?

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Yep good find...

But...

Can you go and do a little exercise for me..?

As I just did...


Go to the bathroom and look into the mirror
Take note of both facial expressions (Left: Smile Right: Pout)
Notice how when you Smile your nose flares out a bit as we can see in the photo on the left...:yes4:
Now pout your lips as in the Right hand photo and watch your nose narrow...:yes4:

These photos are of the same person...(note: the shine on the tip of his nose doesn't change and the bridge of his nose is the same)

Conclusion:

IMHO, no cloning going on here...:noidea:

Yeah, he's 24 and the pic on the left I think was when he was 20 or so, first glance it looks like two different dudes, but it's Jason Bourne, whoops, I mean James Holmes.

He may be an alien! lol!....a bad alien that is.

[bluestflame]

having difficulty finding the original arrest pictures that i've been told clearly shows the "suspect" without bright orange hair

more media stuff to sift through

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2177174/Dark-Knight-shooting-Aurora-Keeley-Hazells-shock-appearing-James-Holmes-online-picture.html

"A British model has spoken out about her horror at discovering that the Colorado 'Dark Knight' shooter had a poster of her on his wall.

James Holmes posed with a picture of Page Three star Keeley Hazell in a photograph he posted on a sex cruising website.

Ms Hazell, who currently lives in Hollywood, said: 'It’s chilling and has shocked and disgusted me.'"



Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2177174/Dark-Knight-shooting-Aurora-Keeley-Hazells-shock-appearing-James-Holmes-online-picture.html#ixzz21bcJy33f

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/07/22/article-2177174-14267ED9000005DC-245_634x689.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/07/22/article-2177174-1429833F000005DC-796_634x464.jpg

still seems like a stitchup to me

[jackovesk]

having difficulty finding the original arrest pictures that i've been told clearly shows the "suspect" without bright orange hair

more media stuff to sift through

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2177174/Dark-Knight-shooting-Aurora-Keeley-Hazells-shock-appearing-James-Holmes-online-picture.html

"A British model has spoken out about her horror at discovering that the Colorado 'Dark Knight' shooter had a poster of her on his wall.

James Holmes posed with a picture of Page Three star Keeley Hazell in a photograph he posted on a sex cruising website.

Ms Hazell, who currently lives in Hollywood, said: 'It’s chilling and has shocked and disgusted me.'"



Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2177174/Dark-Knight-shooting-Aurora-Keeley-Hazells-shock-appearing-James-Holmes-online-picture.html#ixzz21bcJy33f

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/07/22/article-2177174-14267ED9000005DC-245_634x689.jpg

still seems like a stitchup to me

I swear when I first saw the photo 'above', I thought (Oh No) not this bloke again...! :scared:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHmvkRoEowc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHmvkRoEowc

Sorry for that Keeley...:noidea:

[Tarka the Duck]

Just heard it reported that gun sales are up 43% in Colorado following this incident: the average number of requests for background check has risen to 710 a day!

Meanwhile, there are only a couple of Christian Democrats who are calling for a review of gun control laws. Everyone else seems happy to arm themselves to the teeth...

[seantimberwolf]

This is just another nut.
A nut who deserves to have done to him what he done to others, death.
Dont care what people say about bull**** human rights im sick and tired of these grotesque things happening.

You dont deserve human rights when you behave in such a dark manner.

[modwiz]

This is just another nut.
A nut who deserves to have done to him what he done to others, death.
Dont care what people say about bull**** human rights im sick and tired of these grotesque things happening.

You dont deserve human rights when you behave in such a dark manner.

This is another black psy-ops. You got the dark manner part right.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?47780-James-Martinez-on-the-Finacial-Fraud-Colorado-Shootings..&p=527052&viewfull=1#post527052

Nice space suit ya got there.

[Wind]

I hardly see any soul in those eyes. I only see a very corrupted and a dark one, but I don't want to gaze into the abyss for too long.

[seantimberwolf]

They say truth is in the eyes, and i see the truth off it.
I agree modwiz on some respect, these dark souls are easily corrupted.

[nearing]

...
These photos are of the same person...(note: the shine on the tip of his nose doesn't change and the bridge of his nose is the same)

Conclusion:

IMHO, no cloning going on here...:noidea:

Yeah, he's 24 and the pic on the left I think was when he was 20 or so, first glance it looks like two different dudes, but it's Jason Bourne, whoops, I mean James Holmes.

He may be an alien! lol!....a bad alien that is.[/QUOTE]

Except that his nose and ipicanthal folds are different sizes. This isn't about symmetry.

[SilentFeathers]

I wonder if it's in his own handwriting?????

EXCLUSIVE: Movie massacre suspect sent chilling notebook to psychiatrist before attack
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/07/25/exclusive-movie-massacre-suspect-laid-out-plans-in-package-mailed-to/

Quite convenient huh? Slam dunk for the prosecution now!

[noxon medem]

..
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having difficulty finding the original arrest pictures that i've been told clearly shows the "suspect" without bright orange hair

more media stuff to sift through

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2177174/Dark-Knight-shooting-Aurora-Keeley-Hazells-shock-appearing-James-Holmes-online-picture.html

"A British model has spoken out about her horror at discovering that the Colorado 'Dark Knight' shooter had a poster of her on his wall.

James Holmes posed with a picture of Page Three star Keeley Hazell in a photograph he posted on a sex cruising website.

Ms Hazell, who currently lives in Hollywood, said: 'It’s chilling and has shocked and disgusted me.'"



Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2177174/Dark-Knight-shooting-Aurora-Keeley-Hazells-shock-appearing-James-Holmes-online-picture.html#ixzz21bcJy33f

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/07/22/article-2177174-14267ED9000005DC-245_634x689.jpg

still seems like a stitchup to me

I swear when I first saw the photo 'above', I thought (Oh No) not this bloke again...! :scared:

(video embed edited out)

Sorry for that Keeley...:noidea:

Thanks for the photoshop inspiration ...
Not the best of work, but it will work,
I guess ..
( or was it guest ..).

&
( is that a tongue ?.)

:fish2:

..
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[Fred Steeves]

This is just another nut.
A nut who deserves to have done to him what he done to others, death.
Dont care what people say about bull**** human rights im sick and tired of these grotesque things happening.

You dont deserve human rights when you behave in such a dark manner.

For many reasons, I don't for one second think Holmes is the guy who actually set the booby traps, or even stepped one foot in that theater. Here's one of them Sean. Look in the eyes of the goofy 18 year old Holmes 6 years ago, and tell me someone changes that drastically, to the eyes rolling back in the head we are now being shown, without some help.

K47DpqTZoBw

IMHO, this poor kid needs our prayers, not our contempt.

[shadowstalker]

My husband is watching Batman Dark knight rising and I noticed there is a lot of chanting

[SilentFeathers]

Suspected Aurora shooter James Holmes brilliant? Not by a long shot, says former Salk Institute supervisor John Jacobson
'He never completed the project. What he gave me was a complete mess,' says Jacobson. 'I basically fired him.'

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/suspected-aurora-shooter-james-holmes-brilliant-a-long-shot-salk-institute-supervisor-john-jacobson-article-1.1120132

[modwiz]

Except that his nose and ipicanthal folds are different sizes. This isn't about symmetry.

LOL. You get a thanks just for using ipicanthal folds in a sentence. Good point as well.

[TargeT]

Except that his nose and ipicanthal folds are different sizes. This isn't about symmetry.

LOL. You get a thanks just for using ipicanthal folds in a sentence. Good point as well.

I've been looking for some clear ear shots.. those are very telling, but from what I can see the ears look the same so far...

[Cartomancer]

I think its the same guy. He has a different expression and shorter different colored hair in the first shot. The nose does look different but it may be because of the light and he is smiling. I bet Wellaware1 is saying he isn't the same guy in both pics?

[Falcor]

a friend posted this on facebook....

it is at 3:48 on this lil wayne video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_yVRZMFbLc

appeared uploaded on youtube july 17th. many people say he is illuminati

edit: was lookin at this......only problem is. at different frames, there are definitely more than 12 skeletons :)

[jackovesk]

Here we go - See HOW the PTW/MSM reacts when NOBODY believes the OFFICIAL STORY...:faint:

Batman shooter James Holmes sent chilling warning

July 26, 2012

THE man accused of killing a dozen people at a Colorado cinema sent a chilling warning of his plans in a parcel which sat unopened in a university mailroom, Fox News has reported.

The package contained a notebook "full of details about how he was going to kill people" and appeared to have arrived more than a week before Friday's mass shooting, an unnamed law enforcement source told the network's website.

It's not clear why the package was never delivered nor whether it actually arrived in time to potentially prevent the massacre, which also left 58 people wounded.

A second law enforcement source quoted by FoxNews.com (http://foxnewsinsider.com/2012/07/25/fox-news-exclusive-movie-massacre-suspect-sent-chilling-notebook-to-psychiatrist-before-attack/) said they were unable to confirm that the package had arrived prior to the massacre. The first source said it had arrived on July 12, but did not say why it was not delivered.

It was addressed to a psychiatrist who is also a professor at the University of Colorado, where James Holmes was a graduate student.

The spiral-bound notebook was discovered on Monday after the psychiatrist received a package he feared had come from Holmes and police searched the mailroom for suspicious packages.

"There were drawings of what he was going to do in it - drawings and illustrations of the massacre," an unnamed law enforcement source told the website.

Among the drawings were some of gun-wielding stick figures shooting other stick figures.

Officials believe Holmes, 24, meticulously planned his attack on the first midnight showing of the hit movie The Dark Knight Rises in a cinema in Aurora, outside Denver.

The gunman emerged from a fire exit on Friday shortly after the film began and threw two canisters of noxious gas into the auditorium.

After firing one round directly into the air with a pump-action shotgun, he began shooting people at random with a military-style assault rifle that could dispatch 50 to 60 rounds a minute, witnesses said.

Authorities said Mr Holmes had painted his hair reddish orange and claimed he was the Joker, Batman's sworn enemy in the comic book series that inspired the movie.

According to reports and at least one witness, he might have killed more people had his assault rifle not jammed.

Holmes gave himself up outside the cinema (http://www.news.com.au/world/batman-shooting-suspect-appears-in-court/story-fndir2ev-1226433431711), still clad in the body armour witnesses described the gunman wearing.

Police said on Sunday they had found Holmes's computer inside his booby-trapped apartment - rigged to kill anyone who entered - which could provide crucial details about how he planned and executed the attack.

Meanwhile, the New York Daily News reported that Holmes had allegedly asked a stunned jail worker how the Batman film ends.

He "was trying to look like he was sincerely curious," a person who witnessed the bizarre incident in the jail's infirmary on Tuesday told the paper.

"Like he had no idea why there was anything wrong with what he was saying. It was sick ... I think he's trying real hard to act crazy."

His eyes glazed and his voice flat, Mr Holmes reportedly asked a jail worker "Did you see the movie?" and then "How does it end?"
He repeated the question when the worker ignored him.

"If he said that to me, it would have been real hard to resist smacking him," the unnamed witness told the paper.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/true-crime-scene/batman-shooter-james-holmes-sent-chilling-warning/story-fnat7jnn-1226435285610

PS - How to Cover-Up a False Flag Operation & continue the PsyOp for DUMMIES...:yes4:

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PSS - Here's the 'KICKER' so why the 'Fabricated Story' above..?

...and the Contradictions from Fox..?

Fox News Channel Questions Narrative Of ‘Batman’ Massacre

Did James Holmes have an accomplice?

Wednesday, July 25, 2012

A local Fox News channel came off sounding more like Infowars than the mainstream media when it listed a series of unanswered questions that challenge the official narrative of the ‘Batman’ massacre and suggest a wider plot.

Reality Check: Unanswered Questions About Colorado Theater Massacre


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jeW_-Kq7vA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jeW_-Kq7vA

:attention:

[Referee]

I do not know if this has been posted however some are saying a second gas mask was found. This video features a ver un-awake person however a second gas mask would mean alot.

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[jackovesk]

...
These photos are of the same person...(note: the shine on the tip of his nose doesn't change and the bridge of his nose is the same)

Conclusion:

IMHO, no cloning going on here...:noidea:

Yeah, he's 24 and the pic on the left I think was when he was 20 or so, first glance it looks like two different dudes, but it's Jason Bourne, whoops, I mean James Holmes.

He may be an alien! lol!....a bad alien that is.

Except that his nose and ipicanthal folds are different sizes. This isn't about symmetry.[/QUOTE]

https://encrypted-tbn1.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR8AZeeiVxRbMgW43aBg1-wePEJO7WGR2ccNfgejk0sTOvEogkN

http://images.theage.com.au/2012/07/25/3488248/art-353-colorado-300x0.jpg

[Jenci]

This is just another nut.
A nut who deserves to have done to him what he done to others, death.
Dont care what people say about bull**** human rights im sick and tired of these grotesque things happening.

You dont deserve human rights when you behave in such a dark manner.

For many reasons, I don't for one second think Holmes is the guy who actually set the booby traps, or even stepped one foot in that theater. Here's one of them Sean. Look in the eyes of the goofy 18 year old Holmes 6 years ago, and tell me someone changes that drastically, to the eyes rolling back in the head we are now being shown, without some help.

K47DpqTZoBw

IMHO, this poor kid needs our prayers, not our contempt.


Thanks Fred. I see in that old video he is talking about his mentor and the work they were doing on fantasy versus reality.


Who knows what happened to him in the line of research. I saw this new movie trailer yesterday and I can't help thinking about James Holmes.




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4yJP3DiXQM


source : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4yJP3DiXQM

[Cartomancer]

Here's a link to a video I just made about the occult overtones of the incident:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcZRmPYLaos

[nearing]

http://images.theage.com.au/2012/07/25/3488248/art-353-colorado-300x0.jpg

Thanks for that.

Yes, the nose doesn't fit and the eyelids and eyebrows are different.

[Cartomancer]

I guess if his mom says that both are him she must be in on it too. I think the concept of what Wellaware1 is saying is very crafty and likely has been used to some extent. The whole wag the dog concept must be tempting to use when needed. Since the media is controlled and manipulated to one degree or another almost anything can pass for truth these days.

In the split photo above he does seem to have different colored eyes.

[TargeT]

I guess if his mom says that both are him she must be in on it too. I think the concept of what Wellaware1 is saying is very crafty and likely has been used to some extent. The whole wag the dog concept must be tempting to use when needed. Since the media is controlled and manipulated to one degree or another almost anything can pass for truth these days.

In the split photo above he does seem to have different colored eyes.

the left picture is low res, bad lighting, the right picture is higher res and slightly over exposed as well as a slightly different angle... Plus his father being possibly a key witness in one of the biggest banking scams ever makes it all "fit" honestly....

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?47832-James-Holmes-likely-murders-overshadow-father-Robert-Holmes-Libor-testimony.

[ulli]

http://images.theage.com.au/2012/07/25/3488248/art-353-colorado-300x0.jpg

Thanks for that.

Yes, the nose doesn't fit and the eyelids and eyebrows are different.


...and they botoxed his lips as well.

[TargeT]

...and they botoxed his lips as well.

botox ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Botulinum_toxin AKA pig botculinum ) is a neurotoxin that effectively removes wrinkles by localized paralysis of facial muscles.

looks like your thinking of collagen injections (or one of the various other lip injections) ;)

[TigaHawk]

http://www.news.com.au/world/why-am-i-here-batman-killer-james-holmes-asks/story-fndir2ev-1226436278467


He's now got Amnesia.


More and more like MK Ultra.

[ThePythonicCow]

Keep in mind, that because this is a drill, bodies and injured WILL be mentioned and played as real, but it's ALL FAKE as confirmed by recording 1, and the overall attitude in this MP3, where they are talking about WHERE TO PUT THE PRESS AND FAMILIES AND AMBULANCES FOR PHOTOS!

My original suspicions were confirmed by these tapes. The bat man shooting NEVER HAPPENED AT ALL! These MP3's were posted by Wellaware1.com, which is begging people to download these and re-post them elsewhere so they do not get shut down.
The above quote is from a couple of days ago in this thread, and others have already responded. From my quick scan, it seems that yourself (Amzer Zo) and others have reached the conclusion that this shooting in Denver was real - real people were shot.

I'm just beating a dead horse here :).

Beating #1:



Ed Chiarini (DallasGoldBug)'s wellaware1.com site is, in my view, not a reliable site (reliably unreliable in fact.)
Beating #2:



The http://educate-yourself.org/ site has posted an update on this topic here (http://educate-yourself.org/cn/batmanshootingstaged22jul12.shtml):




Update, July 23, 2012. After viewing Youtube vides, It's obvious that that many people were shot at the Aurora theater and the proposition that the entire scene was faked, as suggested below, is no longer credible. However, the oddities of the police dispatch calls heard below offer many clues that a covert operation of some sort was in play. Maybe these recorded police dispatch calls themselves are also part of a plan to confuse and obfuscate the truth.

[Hervé]

Keep in mind, that because this is a drill, bodies and injured WILL be mentioned and played as real, but it's ALL FAKE as confirmed by recording 1, and the overall attitude in this MP3, where they are talking about WHERE TO PUT THE PRESS AND FAMILIES AND AMBULANCES FOR PHOTOS!

My original suspicions were confirmed by these tapes. The bat man shooting NEVER HAPPENED AT ALL! These MP3's were posted by Wellaware1.com, which is begging people to download these and re-post them elsewhere so they do not get shut down.
The above quote is from a couple of days ago in this thread, and others have already responded. From my quick scan, it seems that yourself (Amzer Zo) and others have reached the conclusion that this shooting in Denver was real - real people were shot.

I'm just beating a dead horse here :).

Beating #1:



Ed Chiarini (DallasGoldBug)'s wellaware1.com site is, in my view, not a reliable site (reliably unreliable in fact.)
Beating #2:



The http://educate-yourself.org/ site has posted an update on this topic here (http://educate-yourself.org/cn/batmanshootingstaged22jul12.shtml):




Update, July 23, 2012. After viewing Youtube vides, It's obvious that that many people were shot at the Aurora theater and the proposition that the entire scene was faked, as suggested below, is no longer credible. However, the oddities of the police dispatch calls heard below offer many clues that a covert operation of some sort was in play. Maybe these recorded police dispatch calls themselves are also part of a plan to confuse and obfuscate the truth.




Then it becomes a real false flag event: a drill twinned to a real event.


Well, for once, Chiarini might have caught on some truth (although I too would dismiss him for unreliable info):


Staged Event Hallmark: Colorado University Held Identical Drill on Same Day as Aurora Theater Mass Shooting


http://educate-yourself.org/cn/coloradouniversitydrill23jul12.shtml
July 23, 2012

Hallmarks of a False Flag: Colorado University Held Identical Drill on Same Day as Aurora Theater Mass Shooting, Mind Control, and Multiple Suspects

http://theintelhub.com/2012/07/23/hallmarks-of-a-false-flag-colorado-university-held-identical-drill-on-same-day-as-aurora-theater-mass-shooting-mind-control-and-multiple-suspects/
By Alex Thomas


In the last few days there has been numerous reports that seem to indicate that once again the government and corporate controlled media (http://corporatemediaexposed.com/) are directly lying and possibly covering up a “black op” that resulted in at least a dozen deaths during a premier screening of the new Batman movie at a theater in Aurora, Colorado.
Now, yet another startling revelation has come to light and, like other bits of evidence released in the last two days, this “coincidence” adds to a series of facts that bear all the hallmarks of a false flag.


On the same day as the Aurora massacre, Rocky Vista University College of Osteopathic Medicine was holding an identical drill (http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_21126462/real-life-shooting-imitates-training-exercise-at-parker) that simulated a shooter in a movie theater.



The tragedy that played out in an Aurora movie theater Friday was ironically paralleled as a classroom learning experience in a medical school in Parker the same day.





Rocky Vista University College of Osteopathic Medicine is in the middle of holding specialized classes in disaster life support for 150 second-year medical students. Along with response to natural disasters like hurricanes and floods and terrorist attacks, one of the scenarios being used to train the students is how to respond if a shooter fires at people in a movie theater and also uses a bomb in the attack.


“The irony is amazing, just amazing,” said Rocky Vista Dean Dr. Bruce Dubin.





Full article: http://educate-yourself.org/cn/coloradouniversitydrill23jul12.shtml

[ThePythonicCow]

On the same day as the Aurora massacre, Rocky Vista University College of Osteopathic Medicine was holding an identical drill that simulated a shooter in a movie theater.
Dang - once again, false flag and other controlled events are run in parallel with simulations of the same event.

By my reading of Google maps, the Rocky Vista University College of Osteopathic Medicine is 10 miles due south of the Century Cinema in Aurora, Colorado.

[modwiz]

Hard for me to look at this guy without Zuckerberg being invoked. Must be the creepy scumbag gene*. I do not suggest that others see this. Just the view of a guy from a tent in the forest.
With internet.:thumb:

*As suggested by another member, being from a blueblood family probably assured this poor guy was under some kind of split personalty management. On the other hand, Zuckerberg..........:yuck:

[muxfolder]

Beating #1:



Ed Chiarini (DallasGoldBug)'s wellaware1.com site is, in my view, not a reliable site (reliably unreliable in fact.)


I agree. But I do think his videos are funny.:p He seems to be serious though when he makes his clames about how everybody's an actor and everything is staged. No wonder some people are seriously pissed at this guy.

[jackovesk]

Batman accused's records withheld

July 27, 2012

http://content.video.news.com.au/NDM_CP_-_Sky_News/12/865/Shhoter_Batman01.jpg

A US judge has issued a rare order that prevents a university from releasing records about alleged Aurora cinema shooter James Holmes.

Much speculation surrounding the 24-year-old's possible motive has focused on his time studying neuroscience.

University documents are usually available under the Colorado Open Records Act, but District Court Judge William Silvester cited a provision that bars the public from viewing open records ``prohibited by ... the order of any court''.

His order was signed on Monday but released on Thursday.

At the request of Holmes's lawyers, Silvester also reinforced an earlier order barring officials of the district attorney's office and law enforcement officials from releasing information about the case before the trial.

Holmes is being held in solitary confinement at a detention centre.

He will face court for allegedly killing 12 people and wounding 58 more at a screening of the Batman movie The Dark Knight Rises.

http://www.news.com.au/national/batman-accuseds-records-withheld/story-fndo4eg9-1226436745702

PS - This is all becoming so bloody predictable...:faint:

[ponda]

This article gives an interesting perspective of the movie Dark Knight Rises and some unusual links between the movie and James Holme's father, Dr Robert Holmes.Apologies if this has already been posted.

Some quotes from the article:


Bane’s plot involves a massive transfer of wealth using the stock exchange. It consists further of inciting civil unrest and taking control of cutting-edge technologies that use an algorithm precisely tracked to Bruce Wayne. They use the software to gut the fortunes of the rich.

It begins in a software company where a programmers design statistical software that can track and monitor the spending of some of the richest people in the world. The software is being used by an unnamed agency that has been paid to expose the corruption of a beloved politician that everyone can agree is a savior or messianic figure.

The threat goes out that there will be an exposing of fraudulent practices, which include identity theft, credit card fraud, securities fraud and a number of other practices that the elite do in order to bilk the poor for their money. There is also a sub plot where the software company is about to take their findings to the Supreme Court and expose all of the so called political heroes. This would create riots in various cities. It may even cause marauding shooters to show up in places where they can create mass casualties.

The truth maybe stranger than fiction, as we look at the stories that surround the main story of a so called brainwashed lone nut James Holmes who opens fire at a movie theater in Aurora Colorado and his connections to both neuroscience and ‘Super soldier’ or ‘Peak Soldier performance’ experiments and a father that works for a software company that analyses fraud for business.

According to his LinkedIn profile, James Holmes’s father, Dr. Robert Holmes, who received a PhD in Statistics in 1981 from the University of California at Berkeley, worked for San Diego-based HNC Software, Inc. from 2000 to 2002. HNC, known as a “neural network” company, and DARPA, beginning in 1998, have worked on developing “cortronic neural networks,” which would allow machines to interpret aural and visual stimuli to think like humans.

How interesting and coincidental is it that in the film The Dark Knight Rises Bane gets his hands on Software that is used to expose the fraud in Wall Street and literally guts the rich?

Robert Holmes is said to have developed computer algorithms that demonstrate predictive models for financial services; credit and fraud risk models, first and third party application fraud models and internet/online banking fraud models.

It is just too coincidental to not be eerily synchronistic. This software has been said to be able trace the Trillions of Dollars that have just vaporized into thin air. All of the spending in theory could be traced to the exact bank accounts of the elite thugs who have stolen it.

Now these Software insiders who may have information to nail corrupt officials have always wound up being fingered by intelligence agencies and many have died mysteriously.

Several years ago a system of software was developed called PROMIS, by a company called INSLAW. This was criminal tracking software that was used by the Defense Dept. and other agencies after they stole it from the maker and forced him into Bankruptcy and Jail, where he remains today.

Full article: http://www.groundzeromedia.org/the-storm-is-coming/

[VirgoSun79]

http://images.theage.com.au/2012/07/25/3488248/art-353-colorado-300x0.jpg

Thanks for that.

Yes, the nose doesn't fit and the eyelids and eyebrows are different.

Wow, I haven't been this suspicious of a situation since 9/11. This picture thing reminds me of the Osama Bin Laden pictures/videos that came out right after 9/11 and it was debateable if it were him or not. Some people I'm hearing is saying the pictures look different because the pictures are taken at different angles making his nose look different. Personally I think that's :bs:

[Maunagarjana]

Just to present an alternative view on the two pictures.....the differences could be perhaps explained by different lighting and different quality of the images (which could change the eye color more than one might think), the nose could be explained by his head being tilted back much more on the right image and him flaring his nostrils a bit more in the left image, the difference in the lips could be explained by Holmes pressing them together much more in the left image, the eyebrow difference could be explained by him raising his eyebrow in the right image and him lowing it in the other (plus he could have shaved his eyebrows off recently, not unheard of), the ear difference could be explained by the angle of the head in relation to the camera being different in each image, and the other general differences in facial structure could be explained by changes in diet and exercise (or lack thereof). Also, I would ask people to consider, if you were to take two pictures of yourself that were similarly posed, one current and one from years ago, how many discrepancies might you find??

[Referee]

Aroura Shooting Suspect under phsycologist's care She was previously the head of an Air Force's Biggest Division in San Antonio TX

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[risveglio]

Two Aurora Shootings. - For some reason we are not hearing about the one from a few months ago.

http://thenewamerican.com/usnews/crime/item/12175-two-aurora-shootings-one-widely-known-the-other-ignored

It didn't suit TPTB that plus the guy shot himself, Maybe they didnt make a good enough story for him so it was dropped as it where..

He didn't shoot himself. But I am responding to a post from 5 days ago so sorry if i am derailing a little.
from article

On April 22 of this year a convicted felon, just out of jail, went to an Aurora, Colorado, church and shot and killed a member of the congregation before being killed himself by a congregant carrying a gun.

[Kimberley]

***************

You have to be a member to read this post but here is what someone sent me....

July 25-26, 2012 -- Aurora police chief's dubious connections

http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/articles/20120725

Quoting article: As Aurora, Colorado police chief Dan Oates receives accolades from officials from President Obama to Colorado Governor John Hickenlooper, Oates's past position with the New York Police Department is noteworthy as more details emerge of the connections between the alleged Century 16 movie theater shooter James Holmes and government-funded neuroscience research.
Oates retired from the New York Police Department in 2001 after a 21-year career. He served as safety services administrator in Ann Arbor, Michigan, the home of the University of Michigan, designated by former CIA director Richard Helms as one of the five top CIA-Advance Research Projects Agency (ARPA) [now known as the Defense Advance Research Projects Agency, or DARPA] "behavioral science" research campuses, along with Yale, M.I.T., U.C.L.A, and the University of Hawaii. In 2005, Oates left Ann Arbor to take up his present position in Aurora.

Oates's last job with the NYPD was as the chief of the intelligence division. As a member of Police Commissioner Howard Safir's executive staff, Oates's prepared, according to The New York Daily News, a daily intelligence briefing for Safir, which lasted some two hours. Oates's would have conceivably had access to a wide spectrum of intelligence information, including Drug Enforcement Administration, FBI, and other federal agency reports on the suspicious activities of a number of Israeli "art students" and "office movers" in the year leading up to the 9/11 attack on New York's World Trade Center..........
Oates, in remarks to the media after the massacre at the theater, immediately moved to quash rumors on the Internet. He also told CBS News Face the Nation: "All evidence we have, every single indicator is that it was all Mr. Holmes' activity and that he wasn't particularly aided by anyone else." Oates was discounting anything other than a "lone nut" theory behind the mass shooting.

The Aurora police also revealed they were mistaken when they first reported that the car Holmes allegedly drove to the theater to conduct his shooting spree had Tennessee license plates. The alleged shooter's father, Robert Holmes, worked in some capacity for the U.S. Navy Personnel Research and Development Center in San Diego in 1988. The elder Holmes wrote a technical report for the center and the work appeared to have spanned from 1988 to 1989. In 2000, the San Diego center moved to a remodeled new "lab space" at the Naval Support Activity in Millington, Tennessee, near Memphis. The center was re-named the Navy Personnel Research, Studies and Technology (NPRST) Department. The Millington center concentrates on behavioral and social sciences research and is funded mostly out of the Human Systems Department at the Office of Naval Research (ONR), the Navy research branch that works closely with DARPA and the CIA. NPRST also has close working relationships with two universities, the University of Mephis and the University of Mississippi.

It has also been revealed that Holmes spoke at the Salk Institute at the age of 18 on temporal illusions. Holmes explains that a temporal illusion is an illusion that allows one to change the past. One of slides shows the name of Terrence Sejnowski, Terrence Sejnowski, the Francis Crick Professor at the Salk Institute for Biological Studies and the director of the Computational Neurobiology Laboratory. In 2008, Sejnowski wrote that since early brain research conducted by the RAND Corporation in 1980, "we now know a lot about the brain, perhaps more than we need to know." In 2001, Sejnowski worked with the CIA to develop a facial recognition and analysis system to detect whether someone is lying. Three files of Sejnowski's research papers are located in Box 58 at the System Development Foundation (SDF) in Palo Alto, California. SDF has a rather complex and mysterious origin is said to have been created "in the 1950s" as a not-for-profit entity. SDF has an archival depository relationship with the RAND Corporation in Santa Monica.

RAND and Stanford Research Institute, two of the CIA's top west coast research centers, were involved in temporal illusion research throughout the 1970s and 80s. The CIA and Defense Intelligence Agency projects had various code-names, including GRILL FLAME and STAR GATE. All dealt with remote viewing, and WMR learned from a recent participant in the same program, now under the supervision of the National Security Agency (NSA) in Fort Meade, Maryland, has dealt on numerous occasions with temporal remote viewing, i.e., remote viewing of past and future events. The NSA program involves Johns Hopkins University in Baltimore and the Monroe Institute in Faber, Virginia, according to the NSA source.

[gripreaper]

I don't advocate this, but it's an interesting commentary on how some feel. This is a billboard in Caldwell, Idaho.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/07/28/article-2180452-14447610000005DC-797_634x384.jpg

[Kimberley]

FYI

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2179995/A-mass-shooting-happens-FIVE-days-America-Interactive-map-shows-gun-violence-epidemic-sweeping-nation.html

[Straker]

The Denver Shooting is the US equivalent of the Port Arthur Massacre here in Australia. It was a complete fraud and setup and has very similar elements.

The rifle used in both cases was a military AR15 Assault Rifle. In both cases, photos were circulated on the suspects with reddish/yellow crazy hair and wide eyes, looking insane. Completely different to the regular shots of them. I have made a comparison photo for you to look at.

After the massacre here, began the Government Gun Buyback scheme, of which I have also included a magazine snippet.

The Denver shooting is flawed from the start, as there were many reports of two gunmen wearing gas masks. Notice the plural.

The trail of bloody footprints running out of the exit, goes straight past the spotless white car where the suspect was found drugged out of his mind, and goes all the way down to the end of the building where obviously a car was waiting as the footprints disappear. Being the US, you guys drive on the right, so the car would be parked at the end with the door open waiting, ready to head off in the opposite direction to the police station.

After hopping in the car, the gas mask was dropped out the window, leaving it a few metres away from the footprints, although it could also have been tossed there.

No footprints lead back to the white car.

Another smaller trail of blood spots seems to lead off in the opposite direction, where body armour was found dumped. Obviously the running man still had his on.

Police say the AR15 rifle was found in the car, and the suspect was wearing a gas mask. However there is an AR15 dumped at the exit, and a gasmask at the end of the carpark, that makes two guns and two gas masks.

We all know that someone was already in the theatre, as he took a call and then proceeded to let the other man in. It would take him a few minutes to put his gear on, then come back inside. In the chaos, with people screaming and smoke everywhere, who could tell how many shooters there were.

Interestingly, the suspect and patsy, James Holmes, attended Phi Betta Cappa, (PBK) which you all know for it's members being either Presidents or high ranking members of secret societies and groups such as the CFR, Bilderberg etc

I researched into illuminati mind control, and found that the term "Joker" is used as a trigger for people. I am wondering if there will be other "jokers" appearing now, as we saw a couple of days ago, when another guy claimed he "was a joker".

Notice he's not saying that he IS the Joker, but that he is A Joker, meaning he is an archetype personality, not a particular comic book character. The real Joker has Green hair, not red.

The red and yellow hair colouring may be a reference to flames, hell, burning etc.

In Port Arthur, Martin Bryant was arrested and charged without trial, and held to this day in solitary confinement, with no media allowed. He had an IQ of 66, and couldn't shoot a gun well. He was left handed and a simpleton.

The killer shot from the hip, right handed in almost perfect shot to kill ratio, mostly head or throat shots with perfect accuracy and amazing speed.

The only evidence that seemed to link Martin to being there, was a blurry video, which has later been explained as one of the staff members delivering blankets to wounded in the bus outside. This is most likely true, as you can see people standing on the balcony of the cafe, relaxing, in no hurry to get away.

A mysterious dark van with black windows appeared and disappeared in front of the Broad Arrow Cafe, where the shooting took place, before police or ambulances could arrive, Port Arthur being practically at the bottom tip of the Earth, in Tasmania, an isolated island where nothing ever happens.

The other strange things is the mortuary truck which arrived. It was specially built to accommodate 22 people inside and was refrigerated. It was the only one of it's kind in Australia, and where was it? On a remote Island.

Later, it was advertised for sale, see pic.

Where is the CCTV footage from the rear of the cinema?

What happened to the door alarms?

We as a people must tell our rogue governments that we simply do not believe these lies and frauds perpetrated upon innocent people and children. And DEMAND to know the truth. We can't just sit around letting it keep on happening. Martin has been rotting in solitary since 1996.

Straker

[Straker]

Here are some more photos including the Special Mortuary Truck and PBK Presidents.

Straker

[Straker]

Here's that other gas mask at the end of the car park, plus the video "evidence" that supposedly proved Martin did it, and the mysterious black van....

[jackovesk]

Except that his nose and ipicanthal folds are different sizes. This isn't about symmetry.

https://encrypted-tbn1.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR8AZeeiVxRbMgW43aBg1-wePEJO7WGR2ccNfgejk0sTOvEogkN

http://images.theage.com.au/2012/07/25/3488248/art-353-colorado-300x0.jpg

Thanks for that.

Yes, the nose doesn't fit and the eyelids and eyebrows are different.

Its not about whether we Agree to Disagree nearing...:nono:

Its about time you started using your own 'EYE's and started using some COMMONSENSE...:yes4:

Ignorance & Fantasy just doesn't cut it anymore...:nono:

PS - ipicanthal folds ...:pound:


Except that his nose and ipicanthal folds are different sizes

Epicanthic fold

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6b/Epicanthicfold-highlighted.JPG/250px-Epicanthicfold-highlighted.JPG


The epicanthic fold is the skin fold of the inner corner of the eye, covering the upper eyelid, more often seen in people from North, Central and Eastern Asia.[1]
Latin plica palpebronasalis

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epicanthic_fold

PSS - The 'Frustrating' thing is nearing was use of 'Big Words' to confound your argument...

...and then 'Fooling Others' that you may well be onto something..? Yet, you make yourself look a tad bit 'Foolish' by comparing a Right 'Epicanthic fold' to the Left 'Epicanthic fold'...! (Instead of Apples for Apples)

e.g You should have been comparing the Left 'Epicanthic folds' of the 2 different photos...

Go figure...

[nearing]

Except that his nose and ipicanthal folds are different sizes. This isn't about symmetry.

https://encrypted-tbn1.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR8AZeeiVxRbMgW43aBg1-wePEJO7WGR2ccNfgejk0sTOvEogkN

http://images.theage.com.au/2012/07/25/3488248/art-353-colorado-300x0.jpg

Thanks for that.

Yes, the nose doesn't fit and the eyelids and eyebrows are different.

Its not about whether we Agree to Disagree nearing...:nono:

Its about time you started using your own 'EYE's and started using some COMMONSENSE...:yes4:

Ignorance & Fantasy just doesn't cut it anymore...:nono:

PS - ipicanthal folds ...:pound:


Except that his nose and ipicanthal folds are different sizes

Epicanthic fold

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6b/Epicanthicfold-highlighted.JPG/250px-Epicanthicfold-highlighted.JPG


The epicanthic fold is the skin fold of the inner corner of the eye, covering the upper eyelid, more often seen in people from North, Central and Eastern Asia.[1]
Latin plica palpebronasalis

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epicanthic_fold

PSS - The 'Frustrating' thing is nearing was use of 'Big Words' to confound your argument...

...and then 'Fooling Others' that you may well be onto something..? Yet, you make yourself look a tad bit 'Foolish' by comparing a Right 'Epicanthic fold' to the Left 'Epicanthic fold'...! (Instead of Apples for Apples)

e.g You should have been comparing the Left 'Epicanthic folds' of the 2 different photos...

Go figure...

Jesus, Jack, I don't have an argument. The two men don't look the same to me. You think they do. We disagree. Get over it.

[Kimberley]

See Batman massacre who why how

http://www.helpfreetheearth.com/news617_batmanwhohow.html

Interesting ... thanks!

Yes thanks!! Great find!! I highly recommend reading this article!!

[Ki's]

What I am finding interesting in this whole scenario is that many regular people (of the sleeping masses) aren't buying the official story either. I'm encountering a LOT of people who are talking 'government set up for gun control'.
The sheeple seem to be becoming more and more aware of the fascist government wolves lurking in the shadows.
The underlying rage of the people is almost palpable.

[Kimberley]

*****

Here is another great article that Allie brought to my attention...

Radio Traffic, Witness Statements, Police Chatter
Serious questions surround Colorado shooting

http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/48415

[jmj12]

This has just been released police scanners

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4QBJRNYELQ

[mountain_jim]

See Batman massacre who why how

http://www.helpfreetheearth.com/news617_batmanwhohow.html

Interesting ... thanks!

Yes thanks!! Great find!! I highly recommend reading this article!!


I just read this and also find it highly interesting and plausible - I learned of Scopolomine or "The Devil's Breath on this forum from a link from, Carmody, I think, to a video about this scary, scary drug and it's use in black ops and crimes. I see this same video is the one in this link.

I would like to know where the author of this article got his info to appear so certain in his claims about the use of this and how it went down, or maybe he admitted it was speculative and I just missed that in my fast read.

[sygh]

Alex Jones interviews author Fritz Springmeier about James Holmes, Robert Holmes, implants, and the possibility of mind control playing a part in the Colorado movie massacre. I don't know about all of you but something isn't right here.

According to Dutchsense, Robert Holmes was ready to testify against LIBOR within in the next few days. New reports on Kerry's site tell us police reported 3 men dragging another man into a car not far from Jame Holmes' apartment building prior to the shooting. Any more info would be appreciated.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=4HYt3Bw3wa0#t=803s

[Anchor]

This was my instinct as soon as I heard the story, that is to say, I concur that the demeanor of the alleged shooter are the results of some kind of mind manipulation.

All the on-line "paper" trails that have been found, his plans etc are all easy for a TLA agency to fabricate.

I am less sure about the who, what, why for this action - but I am convinced that someone who is very guilty will not face the consequences (immediately).

May true justice prevail - and let the sword of truth do its work.

[foreverfan]

I said this the first time I heard this.

[mountain_jim]

As I found this link in another thread here, it's an interesting read

http://www.helpfreetheearth.com/news617_batmanwhohow.html

[Anchor]

As I found this link in another thread here, it's an interesting read

http://www.helpfreetheearth.com/news617_batmanwhohow.html

That does have a ring of truth about it.

Even if it is not totally accurate, the facts about his father should be made very public.

Like the article says:

http://www.helpfreetheearth.com/img/mugshot.jpg

[ghostrider]

Some of the witnesses told of a second cs gas canister tossed but not from the shooter, a person in the front got a cell call went to the emergency exit and opened the door. I believe there was at least two people working together. The eyewitnesses say the shooter was dressed in swat gear, and his face was covered, could have been CIA doing the whole bloody thing, who can get military grade cs gas ? swat gear ? Who knows how to booby trap a room so as to keep the FBI at bay ? You would need to know their tactics. Do they assault through the window first or kick the door in or break the wall down with a tank ? A childhood friend says he couldn't have done it and he is being set up. Just look at his disposition in court , like he doesn't even know why he is in court. I hope I'm wrong and they have the right killer, but man the truth needs to come out about this one for sure. The CIA could enter anywhere and do anything and blame it on you or me, with the faces covered and your residence tampered with along with some media sound bites and the masses with believe anything.

[mgray]

I had three reporters look into the father being called to testify and could not find a Libor hearing being conducted. Both HOuse and Senate will be in August recess after this week.

[Anchor]

I had three reporters look into the father being called to testify and could not find a Libor hearing being conducted. Both HOuse and Senate will be in August recess after this week.

Thats the weakest link in the story presented - and the one, if true, would be the subject of the most intense media distraction and blackout.

[Mu2143]

MKUltra
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjWDZ0bDg0w&feature=my_favorites&list=FLv4ZbZoMC2nZzLMVn0B2Vyw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjWDZ0bDg0w&feature=my_favorites&list=FLv4ZbZoMC2nZzLMVn0B2Vyw

[jackovesk]

Let me see now...

Batman's father has connection to DARPA and was going to Testify in Court & Blow the Whistle on the LIBOR culprits...

Now you do the Math...:confused:

[sygh]

As I found this link in another thread here, it's an interesting read

http://www.helpfreetheearth.com/news617_batmanwhohow.html

Thank you for this link, I read the whole thing. Did you take a good look at James' eyes in ALL of his pictures? He was blasted. His pupils were giant. And possibly but not proven, the drug he was on could be Scopolomine? This link was very informative. It is my hope some of the ex-mind controled come out of the wood work and delve into this one to get to the facts and free this kid, if what they find merits it.

Has anyone been able to find out if Robert Holmes was/is set to testify before Congress against LIBOR? I don't have any special contacts and would hate to speculate. Best to have some solid proof. The witnesses who lived to speak out about the others involved is solid.

As to James, I don't think there is any way James would have sacrificed the very thing he was working for by going into an ORAL exam blasted. Nor do I think he would go to an adult site and start talking about being visited in prison.

As to the arms part of this, it seems to me we are walking the fine line between peace and revolution on this one. But wait, why fight a revolution in this country when we can always go to another country? ... we may very well be going to war with Iran and Obama has secretly supported the rebels in Syria. What a triple whammy.

And then there's the Federal Reserve with $9,000,000,000,000 missing.

So, James was found sitting in his car from what I gather from this link, in the riders seat? And there were at least two others.

[sygh]

Let me see now...

Batman's father has connection to DARPA and was going to Testify in Court & Blow the Whistle on the LIBOR culprits...

Now you do the Math...:confused:
Jackovesk,
Are you saying this is bull hocky? That there were no others involved with James, and that his father is just some run of the mill dude who doesn't have anything to do with testifying against LIBOR? And that, after James, whose shining college career was like a becon to all who saw it, just decided to totally change all of his habits starting 8 weeks prior and blow an oral exam by going into it absolutely stoned out of his mind?

If there were others involved with James, and they were regular, run of the mill guys, they will be found. Even so, this maneuver was too slick; it has all of the earmarks of a black-op.

If I'm wrong, I'll be glad to admit I was chasing my own tail. :suspicious:

[sygh]

Some of the witnesses told of a second cs gas canister tossed but not from the shooter, a person in the front got a cell call went to the emergency exit and opened the door. I believe there was at least two people working together. The eyewitnesses say the shooter was dressed in swat gear, and his face was covered, could have been CIA doing the whole bloody thing, who can get military grade cs gas ? swat gear ? Who knows how to booby trap a room so as to keep the FBI at bay ? You would need to know their tactics. Do they assault through the window first or kick the door in or break the wall down with a tank ? A childhood friend says he couldn't have done it and he is being set up. Just look at his disposition in court , like he doesn't even know why he is in court. I hope I'm wrong and they have the right killer, but man the truth needs to come out about this one for sure. The CIA could enter anywhere and do anything and blame it on you or me, with the faces covered and your residence tampered with along with some media sound bites and the masses with believe anything.

The link also said there was a trail of blood going out the exit door and leading driectly to James' car. Wasn't the gunman supposed to have stayed in the front of the movie theater when shooting? Are ther any witnesses saying the shooter ventured further into the audience seating area, jepordizing his own mission and subsequent get-a-way? Are we to suppose there was so much blood, it ran down to the front of the theater?

[bluestflame]

"stands out like dogs balls " as they say

[sygh]

"stands out like dogs balls " as they say

Who says that? :o

Oh wow, they got to be talkin' 'bout mouse balls, man.

[bluestflame]

"stands out like dogs balls " as they say

Who says that? :o

Oh wow, they got to be talkin' 'bout mouse balls, man.

I think the saying came about originally as a means of conveying the obvious nature of a given observation

[sygh]

In another report given to Fox news, supposedly James Holmes sent a spiral notebook to a University of Colorado Denver psychiatrist who treated students on an out-patient basis. Supposedly, within the pages of the notebook were drawings that James had drawn depicting several stick figures shooting other stick figures. Notice the article says the drawing showed "several" stick figures shooting. I find that odd. If he was trying to show the doctor what he was going to do at the theater, wouldn't his pictures have shown just one shooter?

http://www.contracostatimes.com/ci_21157328/colorado-theater-shooting-feds-say-suspect-may-have?source=pkg

[Kimberley]

***************

This thread on this topic was started July 26th...
James Holmes' likely murders overshadow father Robert Holmes' Libor testimony.
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?47832-James-Holmes-likely-murders-overshadow-father-Robert-Holmes-Libor-testimony.

And this tread was started July 27th...
Colorado Shooter's Father Was To Testify On The LIBOR Scandal
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?47863-Colorado-Shooter-s-Father-Was-To-Testify-On-The-LIBOR-Scandal

Both threads have gathered a lot more information on this topic.

At this point I and others have not been able to get any proof or confirmation about "Robert Holmes was ready to testify against LIBOR within in the next few days".

However, if you listen to the various reports from witnesses and recordings of the police radio talk and follow the clues it is very obvious to me that there were others involved in the shootings.

I am also wondering if James was sitting in the car the whole time and whether he ever entered the building at all?

Also the back ground information about James does not show a typical personality profile of other mass shooters being abused abusers.

I would love to see this backfire on those that planned this and the truth be told.

Much love to us all!! :grouphug:

[bluestflame]

[


***************

I am also wondering if James was sitting in the car the whole time and whether he ever entered the building at all?

Also the back ground information about James does not show a typical personality profile of other mass shooters being abused abusers.

I would love to see this backfire on those that planned this and the truth be told.

Much love to us all!! :grouphug:

I think this is a key point and have a feeling he may have been sitting in the car the whole time , originally i had thought he may have been sitting in the theatre after purchasing a ticket just to have witnesses be able to put him at the scene , am getting the feeling they had to modify plans cos he may have showed signs of breaking programming erlier on , as is evidenced by him informing police after the shootings that there were explosive devices in his apartment

[mountain_jim]

Thanks Kimberley. I admit I was too lazy to put up a post with these links here yesterday. :)

Well that or I get a little irritated that threads concerning News and Updates or Current Events are started in the General Discussion forum, without folks looking first in those 2 appropriate sub-forums where the discussion has been ongoing for days.

[jackovesk]

Second Gas Mask Found At Far Corner: It's worse than I suspected

Jul 25, 2012


http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_398345&feature=iv&src_vid=CCFdZcou0II&v=7u3CLfVe8Xg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_398345&feature=iv&src_vid=CCFdZcou0II&v=7u3CLfVe8Xg

Could this be the knife next to the gas mask? http://s9.postimage.org/yj7s8ihjx/knife.jpg and this image: http://binaryapi.ap.org/5cdb7082d9da4795b88882adb8f680dc/460x.jpg

Look at how doctored the scene is: http://s8.postimage.org/h8k9n3kxf/knife6.jpg

Could this have been reported as "other weapon"? http://s8.postimage.org/ak7wr601f/otherweapon.png

Mainstream media is editing it out!: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnpvqU333n0

(Notice the pool of blood in the background, and the trash bag in the background. Looks to me like they doctored the scene as quickly as they could because people are confirmed to have come out of the back entrance of that corner theater. The Sheila interview attests to that. They would have seen a gas mask and a bloody knife on the concrete, and it would have struck them immediately, such that they would testify about them. So a crooked cop/emt probably hid a blood-pack in a trash bag taken from an ambulance and poured some blood on the ground so they could claim Holmes stabbed somebody in the corner.)

UPDATE: It appears a motorcycle cop in that department died (supposedly) 4 days after the event in a "traffic accident". http://www.facebook.com/notes/colorado-springs-police-department/officer-matt...

I went to the local courthouse, the marshalls, and the FBI, and they all took this information very seriously. If we all go, it is the only way in which an actual investigation will occur into such a high level of corruption. Obviously the executive branch will have to change this from the bottom up. So you must do this. Obama is smack dab in the middle of this cover up, as you can see here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpbPy7TKe7E

I need someone to download and upload this interview which shows clear green(blue)-screen activity which is an attempt to corroborate the "Allie neck wound" story. http://video.insider.foxnews.com/v/1749079286001/

This is the other guy who has been investigating the gas mask (and from whom I got these pictures): http://willyloman.wordpress.com/2012/07/22/aurora-massacre-what-does-the-loca... "willyloman"

Attention: My friend and I seem to recall a local news interview from that night of a tall black dude standing with a white friend who mention letting a gas mask wearing cop into their theater through an emergency exit. I am not referring to the fake interview I have linked from fox news above, but an interview from that night. They let the "cop" in and he was warning people. I'm starting to wonder if the perp was supposed to run from the inside out the exit nearest to the road, but was tempted to abduct a child which required him to head out the back. So outside, he freaks out because of the sirens, stabs the poor girl multiple times and drops her, and went a couple theaters over and they let him inside where he was warning everyone of a shooter, and exited out of the theater out the corner (like he was supposed to, where "Sheila" was), and where people reported a cop jumping up and down out the exit door telling people to evacuate. So afraid to round the corner, (let alone: approach the road) with the gas mask and the knife, the man probably threw them down before any person (or any good cop) could notice them. If you have that interview, please let me know.

CNN edits out knife at crime scene


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnpvqU333n0&feature=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnpvqU333n0&feature=relmfu

[Kimberley]

*******

Oh and there is this thread also...started July 20th..
Mass Shooting in Denver 7/20
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?47574-Mass-Shooting-in-Denver-7-20

And Jackovesk just posted a very interesting video in that thread... I will post it here... and in the other threads... be sure to read the "show more" description page... and this channel has some other interesting videos on this topic...

7u3CLfVe8Xg

[jackovesk]

Illuminati card shows Aurora Colorado shooting?

It is possible that this event was already predicted in one of the cards, from the Illuminati Card Games Over the Edge and/or Illuminati card game 1995 or is it just a coincidence?

The card game ‘Over the Edge’ is similar with the Illuminati card game 1995.

There are some similarities in the card and the shooting.

http://www.thetruthbehindthescenes.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Illuminati-shooting-Colorado.jpg

It’s not just the buildings, but what really stuck out is the purple coat in the card like the one joker wears.

http://www.thetruthbehindthescenes.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/illuminati-card-joker.jpg

The AL AMARJA card:

‘Over The Edge’ published in 1992 and the 2nd edition 1997. Over the Edge is a surreal role-playing game of secrets and conspiracies, taking place on the mysterious fictional Island of Al Amarja. (Publisher: Atlas Games) – A second similar Card game On The Edge was a collectible card game released in 1994, The setting and characters were based on the Role Playing Game titled Over the Edge. This game’s story was set on the same island in the southern Mediterranean and also called Al Amarja, where various factions were fighting for control.

“Al Amarja” patois for “Newcomer”.

In 1940, Monique D’Aubainne, a French business woman, bought a small Mediterranean island from Italy, thus rescueing and saving it from its former owner’s fascist influence. Over the decades, the island, being called Al Amarja by Her Exaltedness, attracted lots of people for various reasons. Many of them found themselves to seek the new-born nation because of its liberal and, above all, business-friendly politics, and tried to make a fortune. Others hoped to get rid of annoying circumstances, like all kinds of persecutors, and dived into the Edge’s, Al Amarja’s largest city’s, sprawl. Yet others ended up on the island by sheer coincidence – be it chance or mishap, or through unknown powers, drawing them to an uncertain future. Al Amarja readily engulfed and harbored all these refugees. Some of them might even have found what they were looking for in the first place.

Coincidence or not, the card games ‘Over the edge (atlas games)’ and ‘Illuminati card game 1995‘ show a lot of events which have become reality.

Source and author: ATS * atlas games * media.adamdodson.org Illuminati

Click link below for added links...

http://www.thetruthbehindthescenes.org/2012/07/26/illuminati-card-shows-aurora-colorado-shooting/

[Kimberley]

I just found this update from David Wilcock on his most recent article...

http://divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/1066-great-revealing


UPDATE SATURDAY 7/28: POWERFUL THINGS GOING ON

I had hoped to finish uploading the rest of this investigation on Wednesday -- but was not able to do so.

The investigation itself is still transforming -- on a variety of levels.

Powerful events have taken place -- some very positive, and some definitely negative. None of them have affected me personally. I am safe and my associates are safe.

Benjamin Fulford did not post an update this week, causing alarm for his readers -- but I can confirm that he is OK. I do not know when he will resume posting, but hopefully soon.

I found out that two more massive false-flag attempts have been thwarted by Divine Intervention -- at least so far. Either one of these would have been provocative enough to immediately start World War III.

At this time there is still an old, mothballed destroyer in the Persian Gulf that is wired up with charges set to go off -- and be blamed on Iran. However, the charges will not go off and the effort has been a failure.

There have been many frantic attempts to set up false-flag events like this, and none of them have been working -- since August of last year, if not earlier.

I also found out, from insider contacts, that James Holmes was NOT supposed to have ended up in court, alive, pleading amnesia and looking totally disoriented.

The Cabal is horrified by the fact that this was a "botched job", and so many people are waking up to the idea of mind control that it is becoming widely known -- and only hastening their downfall.

There are plenty of movies that spell out how this is done -- and the public is waking up to it much faster than they ever had expected.

Other significant events have happened as well. Since returning from Chicago I have needed to stop and breathe, get some sleep and live a normal life for a few days.

I am getting close to being rested up enough to dive back in to complex production work like this again -- and my goal is to publish as soon as certain issues work themselves out and find resolution.

[music]

Re the similarities or lack thereof of the different photos of Holmes, note that in all photos the left ear is higher than the right if you draw a line across the face. That would indicate to me that we are talking about the same person. Facial features that rely on muscle tone or habitual facial set may change slightly to correspond with inner changes and habits, but the actual location of the elements (in this case ears) does not change. The real key are the eyes, the same eyes seen on Manson, Oswald, and Bryant. The eyes of a personality that has been traumatically broken down and rebuilt into discrete, key-word avtivated compartments. In short, the calling card of an MK ultra (or similar) victim.

[Anchor]

Well that or I get a little irritated that threads concerning News and Updates or Current Events are started in the General Discussion forum, without folks looking first in those 2 appropriate sub-forums where the discussion has been ongoing for days.

. Sorry !

[sygh]

*******

Oh and there is this thread also...started July 20th..
Mass Shooting in Denver 7/20
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?47574-Mass-Shooting-in-Denver-7-20

And Jackovesk just posted a very interesting video in that thread... I will post it here... and in the other threads... be sure to read the "show more" description page... and this channel has some other interesting videos on this topic...

7u3CLfVe8Xg

Thank you for posting this. It would probably be a good idea to have admin meld this threads, please?

[sygh]

Thanks Kimberley. I admit I was too lazy to put up a post with these links here yesterday. :)

Well that or I get a little irritated that threads concerning News and Updates or Current Events are started in the General Discussion forum, without folks looking first in those 2 appropriate sub-forums where the discussion has been ongoing for days.

Sorry about that. I've been gone for awhile, just wasn't thinking straight. Am requesting a merge.

[mountain_jim]

And I am sorry for my expressed irritation as well - 1 thread or 4, regardless of location, this subject is important to find and communicate the truth of, I feel - the coverups need to be uncovered and all who are posting with new information or additional analyses are helping in that regard.

[sygh]

And I am sorry for my expressed irritation as well - 1 thread or 4, regardless of location, this subject is important to find and communicate the truth of, I feel - the coverups need to be uncovered and all who are posting with new information or additional analyses are helping in that regard.

No worries jim, glad you pointed it out. And you are right, this is important.

[ghostrider]

the days ahead will tell the story, what ever stupid law they pass quickly to supposedly deal with this kind of threat , will shine the light on the agenda , and the op will make sense. Remember the underwear bomber ? they created the TSA scanners and pat downs. Fast and furious , trying again to pass laws against us. Manipulating the public perception is the path to emplimenting their dark agenda that they usually pass in the middle of the night or on holidays. NDAA, and such. In the words of David Icke PROBLEM REACTION SOLUTION.

[meeradas]

This scopolomine blow is some really scary sh!t...

[jackovesk]

Illuminati Card Game .Shows Colorado Batman Shooting on Al Amarja Card. Meaning Newcomer

Jul 31, 2012


An Investigative look into the Illuminati card Games card Al Amarja. Which means Newcomer.Showing the Joker killing at the movie theatre.

They have been telling us Rome Catholicism is Mystery Babyon for along time. The cards symbolism clearly shows Demon Possesion. Orchestrated By the Catholic church.

The Catholic church the Illuminati are preparing for the end of the age and the day of the lord. Nobody Knows the day or Hour.

But there is one.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X13Sl7Nh220
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X13Sl7Nh220

Did Illuminati Card Game Depict Aurora Colorado Shooting?

July 26, 2012

Over the last few weeks we have published over a dozen exclusive reports detailing the extraordinary amount of evidence that indicates that the horrific Aurora, Colorado movie theater shooting was some sort of false flag black operation.

Whether it be the fact that multiple shooters were documented by numerous witnesses or the connection the shooter had with literal mind control programs, the facts speak for themselves.

Now, an eerie ‘coincidence’ has been found which again connects to other false flag attacks and predictive programming events.

The Illuminati card game first appeared in 1995 after its release by Steve Jackson Games and seems to directly predict events that have happened in the 17 years since its release. It has since been written about thousands of times due to its actual depictions of real events.

A similar card game called On the Edge was released a few years before and one of the cards in the deck seems to depict the Aurora Colorado shooting.

“There are some similarities in the card and the shooting,” wrote the Truth Behind the Scenes Blog.

http://theintelhub.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Illuminati-shooting-Colorado1.jpg

It’s not just the buildings, but what really stuck out is the purple coat in the card like the one joker wears.

http://theintelhub.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/illuminati-card-joker.jpg

The AL AMARJA card:

‘Over The Edge’ published in 1992 and the 2nd edition 1997. Over the Edge is a surreal role-playing game of secrets and conspiracies, taking place on the mysterious fictional Island of Al Amarja. (Publisher: Atlas Games) – A second similar Card game On The Edge was a collectible card game released in 1994, The setting and characters were based on the Role Playing Game titled Over the Edge. This game’s story was set on the same island in the southern Mediterranean and also called Al Amarja, where various factions were fighting for control.

“Al Amarja” patois for “Newcomer”.

In 1940, Monique D’Aubainne, a French business woman, bought a small Mediterranean island from Italy, thus rescueing and saving it from its former owner’s fascist influence. Over the decades, the island, being called Al Amarja by Her Exaltedness, attracted lots of people for various reasons. Many of them found themselves to seek the new-born nation because of its liberal and, above all, business-friendly politics, and tried to make a fortune. Others hoped to get rid of annoying circumstances, like all kinds of persecutors, and dived into the Edge’s, Al Amarja’s largest city’s, sprawl. Yet others ended up on the island by sheer coincidence – be it chance or mishap, or through unknown powers, drawing them to an uncertain future. Al Amarja readily engulfed and harbored all these refugees. Some of them might even have found what they were looking for in the first place.

Coincidence or not, the card games ‘Over the edge (atlas games)’ and ‘Illuminati card game 1995‘ show a lot of events which have become reality.

http://www.thetruthbehindthescenes.org/2012/07/26/illuminati-card-shows-aurora-colorado-shooting/

PS - Need anymore proof that this was a False Flag (Black Op) with a purpose..?

PSS - Who coming to take your 'Guns Away' America..???


An Offer You Can't Refuse..!

http://media.adamdodson.org/var/resizes/Illuminati-Card-Game/an%20offer%20youcant%20refuse.png?m=1276952971

Hint: He's (Left-Handed too & also Wears a Wedding Ring)...:yes4:

http://ionenewsone.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/obama-stimulus-plan-20090128221237.jpg

Are you 'Waking Up' yet...???

[CdnSirian]

It's probably a good sign that this thread was hard to find today. Yes I could have searched it directly (which I just did) but I scouted around for a while first. I'd decided no more of this for myself, it can get distracting.

However, through reading about something else, I came across another writer today who has a really different take on this type of event, and his thoughts are intelligent. Not conspiritainment - his word - but widely reflective of past similar events, copycats etc. Here is a little of it if you're interested. From:http://secretsun.blogspot.com/2012_07_01_archive.html

"UPDATE 7/29: Alex Jones screeched for days that the Denver shooting was engineered in order to ensure passage of the UN gun bill. He presented this theory as unassailable fact. Well, guess what? The bill failed after the US voted against it " linked to: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/27/un-arms-trade-treaty-nra_n_1711578.html?utm_hp_ref=elections-2012

"The Aurora massacre is also reminding me of the Amy Bishop shootings [http://secretsun.blogspot.com/2010/02/crimes-cover-ups-and-fringe-science.html] at the University of Alabama, which I blogged on extensively here. As with James Eagan Holmes we immediately saw the usual suspects screaming the usual nonsense about "false flags" and "mind control", even when it soon emerged that the real conspiracy was the coverup of her murdering her brother in 1986, as well as the coverup of a whole host of crimes and outrages in the years between that murder and the U of A shootings (as well as the fact that I have on good authority that she demonstrated signs of psychosis from a very early age".

"The GOP subtly uses the threat of red state militias to intimidate the rest of the country, a troubling development given the fact that the same patrons of the Republican Party also funded Latin American death squads- also largely made up of rural extremists- to achieve its political objectives.

This is one of the reasons I'm all for the Second Amendment, as it's actually written. In fact, it's an amendment I hope all of the non-lunatics in America start thinking seriously about."

" How Come Gun Sales Spike After Mass Shootings?

By now, you can set your watch to a phenomenon that follows nearly every mass shooting in America: A sharp uptick in gun sales. It happened after the shootings at Virginia Tech, it happened after Columbine and Tucson, and it's happening now following the theater shootings in Aurora, Colorado.

Besides the natural fear for one's safety -- remember all those Republicans telling you this would have been prevented if the movegoers had been armed-- there's another fear driving the gun sales.

The fear of stricter gun laws: Another logical factor is that gun owners' or soon-to-be-gun owners' sense a tide of gun control regulations following a massacre and seek to purchase guns ahead of fast-moving laws.

Since coming into office, Obama has been virtually silent on the issue of gun control, despite the protestations of liberals.

So; who benefits most of all from mass shootings? The gun lobby. "

Here is a creepier topic: neuroscience;

"UPDATE: In the previous post I linked to a 1996 essay by Tom Wolfe[http://www.orthodoxytoday.org/articles/Wolfe-Sorry-But-Your-Soul-Just-Died.php} on the hazards of contemporary neuroscience, a discipline that could be used for extremely nefarious purposes. Although the kneejerk response is to classify it all as "mind control," drawing on the evergreen Manchurian Candidate fever dreams of the fringe right wing, it's a lot more dangerous than that."

and the last snippet:

"One of the reasons I've been skeptical of the theorizing about the Holmes shooting- despite all of the weirdness and despite all of the dodgy connections-- is that we've been down this same exact road with Amy Bishop, who was also sucked into the dark orbit of neuroscience.

I'm struck by how many parallels to Bishop there are with the Holmes case and the common denominator between the two is neuroscience."

Interesting and thoughtful take on these events. The whole page read is excellent.

[Kimberley]

Thank you CdnSirian interesting find for sure!

[mountain_jim]

Well I think some of the photographic evidence, (possibly) altered photo evidence, and witness testimony has left the 'conspiracy' door wide-open in this case.

Not to mention the location of a gas mask verses where the accused was found in the car, and the state he was in.

Now of course the judge wants to ensure many of these descrepancies never see the light of day, at least in the MSM trial coverage, anyways.

Yes this inspires confidence that the truth will come out.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/judge-asked-reconsider-gag-order-movie-theater-shooting-114639357.html




The judge's order to seal all records related to Holmes' arrest will be debated in court Thursday. Several media organizations have asked Sylvester to scale back his order barring the release of search warrants, inventories of evidence and other records publicly available in criminal cases.

Holmes (Arapahoe County Sheriff's Office)

The gag order has prohibited the University of Colorado from releasing public records related to the suspect's time there as a Ph.D. neuroscience student. The Aurora Police Department has also stopped answering routine questions about the shooting.

An editorial by the Denver Post says Sylvester's order has "imposed an unusual shroud of secrecy on the case" and goes beyond protecting the defendant's right to a fair trial.

"Barriers against secrecy are important in part because of the heightened public interest and the widespread desire for justice," the paper wrote.

Releasing basic information could help the community better understand how the tragedy took place, the editorial stated.

[SKAWF]

17737

mmmmm

[mountain_jim]

Again for emphasis:


Denver Post says Sylvester's order has "imposed an unusual shroud of secrecy on the case"

another article highlighting issues

http://www.businessinsider.com/james-holmes-conspiracy-theories-2012-8



Police Audio Raises The Possibility There Were Multiple Shooters In The 'Dark Knight' Massacre

Michael Kelley|Aug. 7, 2012, 5:51 PM|14,959|24

AP

At a July 20 press conference Aurora police Chief Dan Oates said investigators were confident that James Holmes acted alone in the largest mass shooting in U.S. history by casualties and that authorities were "not looking for any other suspects."

But doubters are citing official evidence to question that Holmes was the only shooter, or a shooter at all.

The argument of the skeptics can be split into three categories: the discovery of Holmes, the real-time testimony on police radio transmissions and the extra evidence at the scene.


The discovery of Holmes

During the press conference, Oates said that Holmes was "apprehended outside his White Hyundai parked in the back of the theater" and that he "surrendered without any significant incident."

According to police radio transmissions (at 6:15), an officer found "a suspect in a gas mask" and another officer asked "Is that the dude in the white car you're by?" After a few transmissions, an officer asks (at 6:49) "That white car in the rear of the lot – is that a suspect?" The response is "Yes! We've got rifles, gas mask, he's detained right now, I've got an open door going into the theater."

Skeptics cite this exchange as evidence that Holmes was found in his locked car with a gas mask on and heavily drugged – not outside the car as Oates said – which would have forced first responders to break the passenger side window and get a white stretcher board in preparation to transport him.

The police radio transmissions

We've reported on the eye witness report from Corbin Dates, who said that it looked as if someone in the theater took a phone call by the emergency door and pried it open while "looking for somebody to come his way."

Another witness told a reporter: "From what we saw he wasn't alone ... because the second can of tear gas didn't come from his side."

Skeptics highlight that police radio transmissions seem to corroborate those accounts:

Three minutes after Holmes was supposedly detained in/by his car, an officer says (at 9:58): "One of the shooters might be wearing a white and blue plaid shirt" and the dispatcher responds "Copy, outstanding shooter possibly wearing a white and blue plaid shirt."

An officer says (at 11:43): "The suspect is saying that he's the only one but I'm getting conflicting suspect descriptions from the witnesses out here."

Then, the dispatcher receives several updates (at 24:42) and says: "Copy, all units ... male with a red backpack and another one possibly in black clothing headed toward Alameda" Avenue.

Subsequently an officer says (at 25:00): "Suspect is going to be male, unknown race, black camo-type outfit, believed to be wearing a vest, gas mask and multiple long guns." That update is reiterated by another officer at 31:15.

Even after 45 more minutes pass – making it more than an hour after Holmes was detained – the officers still mention other potential shooters:

1:16:16: Officer: "Talking to people making statements, sounds like we have possibly 2 shooters, one that was in Theater 8 seated, another one that came in from the outside into Theater 9. Sounds like it was a coordinated attack."
1:16:55: Dispatch: "Every unit, possible 2nd shooter still at large... Keep the media away from them."
1:31:27: Dispatch: Again, no witnesses are to be released, even if they've been spoken to."


The trail of blood leading toward (as opposed to away from) the emergency exit of Theater 9 is currently unexplained.

The extra evidence outside the theater

There has not yet been an official explanation of the orange duffel bag, gas can and ballistic gear found at a different part of the parking lot than the ballistic gear found near Holmes' car.

And although authorities say they found a 100-round, drum-style ammo clip in the rifle used by Holmes, skeptics note that the rifle found outside of the Theater 9 emergency exit appears to have a normal clip.

Another puzzling piece of evidence if Holmes was the only shooter is the second gas mask found at the far end of the parking lot, hundreds of feet from Theater 9's emergency exit and Holmes' car. (Holmes was found wearing a different gas mask.)

On July 20 Oates said police "immediately arrested the suspect at the back of the theater" 90 seconds after the first 911 call was made, which would make it difficult for Holmes to account for all of the items.

All that being said, the Arapahoe County Court judge has granted a request to seal the case against Holmes after the prosecutors argued that disclosing the court records would be "contrary to public interest" and "could jeopardize the ongoing investigation."

So we won't be able to compare the skeptical line of thinking with the search warrants, affidavits, orders, and case file anytime soon.


Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/james-holmes-conspiracy-theories-2012-8#ixzz235Uo2XRp

[gripreaper]

More shenanigan's around the Aurora shooting. A nurse, Jenny Gallagher, who was intimately involved in receiving victims from the theater at her hospital, mysteriously drowns on vacation with her husband.

http://www.theendrun.com/batman-shooting-nurse-jenny-gallagher-dead-at-46-alleged-drowning

[Rocky_Shorz]

It's probably a good sign that this thread was hard to find today. Yes I could have searched it directly (which I just did) but I scouted around for a while first. I'd decided no more of this for myself, it can get distracting.

However, through reading about something else, I came across another writer today who has a really different take on this type of event, and his thoughts are intelligent. Not conspiritainment - his word - but widely reflective of past similar events, copycats etc. Here is a little of it if you're interested. From:http://secretsun.blogspot.com/2012_07_01_archive.html

"UPDATE 7/29: Alex Jones screeched for days that the Denver shooting was engineered in order to ensure passage of the UN gun bill. He presented this theory as unassailable fact. Well, guess what? The bill failed after the US voted against it " linked to: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/27/un-arms-trade-treaty-nra_n_1711578.html?utm_hp_ref=elections-2012

"The Aurora massacre is also reminding me of the Amy Bishop shootings [http://secretsun.blogspot.com/2010/02/crimes-cover-ups-and-fringe-science.html] at the University of Alabama, which I blogged on extensively here. As with James Eagan Holmes we immediately saw the usual suspects screaming the usual nonsense about "false flags" and "mind control", even when it soon emerged that the real conspiracy was the coverup of her murdering her brother in 1986, as well as the coverup of a whole host of crimes and outrages in the years between that murder and the U of A shootings (as well as the fact that I have on good authority that she demonstrated signs of psychosis from a very early age".

"The GOP subtly uses the threat of red state militias to intimidate the rest of the country, a troubling development given the fact that the same patrons of the Republican Party also funded Latin American death squads- also largely made up of rural extremists- to achieve its political objectives.

This is one of the reasons I'm all for the Second Amendment, as it's actually written. In fact, it's an amendment I hope all of the non-lunatics in America start thinking seriously about."

" How Come Gun Sales Spike After Mass Shootings?

By now, you can set your watch to a phenomenon that follows nearly every mass shooting in America: A sharp uptick in gun sales. It happened after the shootings at Virginia Tech, it happened after Columbine and Tucson, and it's happening now following the theater shootings in Aurora, Colorado.

Besides the natural fear for one's safety -- remember all those Republicans telling you this would have been prevented if the movegoers had been armed-- there's another fear driving the gun sales.

The fear of stricter gun laws: Another logical factor is that gun owners' or soon-to-be-gun owners' sense a tide of gun control regulations following a massacre and seek to purchase guns ahead of fast-moving laws.

Since coming into office, Obama has been virtually silent on the issue of gun control, despite the protestations of liberals.

So; who benefits most of all from mass shootings? The gun lobby. "

Here is a creepier topic: neuroscience;

"UPDATE: In the previous post I linked to a 1996 essay by Tom Wolfe[http://www.orthodoxytoday.org/articles/Wolfe-Sorry-But-Your-Soul-Just-Died.php} on the hazards of contemporary neuroscience, a discipline that could be used for extremely nefarious purposes. Although the kneejerk response is to classify it all as "mind control," drawing on the evergreen Manchurian Candidate fever dreams of the fringe right wing, it's a lot more dangerous than that."

and the last snippet:

"One of the reasons I've been skeptical of the theorizing about the Holmes shooting- despite all of the weirdness and despite all of the dodgy connections-- is that we've been down this same exact road with Amy Bishop, who was also sucked into the dark orbit of neuroscience.

I'm struck by how many parallels to Bishop there are with the Holmes case and the common denominator between the two is neuroscience."

Interesting and thoughtful take on these events. The whole page read is excellent.

taking this a step further for you, a false flag event in Germany was aborted after one of the participants sent an email to a public figure instead of his Boss, who is the owner of NeuroSky...

they have created a headset that reads your mind so you can play video games by mind control...

according to the company, they expect to have over a million of these $99 mind readers on the market...

now, one of the companies who had tested the product with this device and gave the stamp of approval, was Guitar Hero...

the game Holmes played non stop for a month before the killing...

being the second Killer was in a band, along with ties to Neurology, makes me pretty sure he had a chance to try the same equipment with Guitar Hero...

they claim it helps in training your mind to improve capabilities...

anyone wondering what will happen when a million teens plug in to play games?


ps... including Amy makes it 3 tied to Neuroscience, Wisconsin...


would his former position as a psychological operations specialist perhaps mean he had some info about the Colorado shooting? ( he was originally from Colorado as well ) Perhaps he was making some noise about what he thinks went down there??
unfortunately after these stories come out and you have someone like James Holmes going from squeaky clean kid, top of the top of his class, never in trouble with the law then suddenly all kinds of stories about his mental state, treatment by doctors...

[gripreaper]

This was published August 15th. Pretty comprehensive for those who are not up to speed on where this is going.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=qk6OOvgjYdY#t=0s

I don't think the Jenny Gallagher death had happened when this was put together.

[Referee]

More and in depth coverage of the Al Amarja card. The Artist is the same Artist that illustrated the Steve Jackson Illuminati card game.

t-nnbo3hL5Q

[Ba-ba-Ra]

Originally it was posted either here or on TheOneTruth forum with leads to the original article (sorry can't find it) that Holmes's father - Robert Holmes - was scheduled to be questioned in the LIBOR hearings the following weeks.

Does anyone know any follow up to this. Certainly seems like another 'strange' coincidence, does it not?

[Belle]

I'm not that familiar with Jim Stone, but came across an interesting article on the front page of his website dated August 22, 2012 entitled "All the evidence behind why I believe no one died at the theater". This article ties in with the previous few articles on his site...http://www.jimstonefreelance.com/

Excerpts from the article:


"If you listen to the mainstream press, and even the alternative press, both state that people died at the bat man shooting. I now believe that people probably did die, but not at the theater. I believe that a drill took place at the theater, and inconvenient people the government wanted eliminated were murdered elsewhere and blamed on the bat man shooting. This is in contrast with my earlier posts, where I believed no one died at all. But new evidence has surfaced which includes the nurse who drowned in a lake near her home after tending the injuries of one or more of the victims. Regardless of what you have been told about bird shot, bloody little girls, people hitting the floor, etc take a look at what is here, and consider the evidence.

First, the easy stuff.

At no point did we ever get any CCD footage out of the theater. None for the emergency exit, none from inside the screening room, none from the lobby, none from the parking lot, we got NADA. None from a cell phone cam, absolutely NOTHING. Furthermore, the theater was a very nice modern theater which would have had those things in working order, and what about the mall itself? No footage from the mall either? Think about that. Why not?

On top of that, we got no pictures after the fact from the inside of the theater. NONE, NADA. No bullet holes, no gas canisters, no shell casings, no blood on the floor, NOTHING. Why not?

On the outside of the theater, in the back, there was blood on the sidewalk. But there is one problem with it. First and foremost, the spatters were CLEAN. NO FOOTSTEPS in them. People with some exposure to forensics who have posted on my forum have said that at crime scenes the blood ALWAYS has footprints in it, because it is impossible to stay away from it. Purportedly the blood on the ground was from someone carrying the little girl. In that case, whoever was carrying her would have stepped in the blood while carrying her, leaving bloody footprints and there were NONE. Furthermore, the blood spatters lead TOWARD the emergency exit, not away from it.

The only way these two things could coincide is if a setup team laid the blood scene out and screwed up doing it. This scene could have happened as photographed only if the blood was in a container at the end of a handle, keeping whoever was dumping it on the sidewalk far enough away to not get it on themselves or walk in it. Stupid as they were, they started in the parking lot and worked their way toward the door, rather than starting at the door and working their way out into the parking lot. It's obvious in the following two photos.



So we have photos of blood outside, but none from inside. Perhaps because the theater owner did not agree to having a setup crew make a mess of his carpet.


Another thing that should be easy for most people to grasp that it was only a drill is the fact that the police tapes show that the police were discussing where to put the victim's families and press for photos, WHILE THE SHOOTING WAS IN PROGRESS. At that point they would be clueless as to who the victims families even were, or how to get ahold of them, let alone GET THEM TO THE THEATER AT MIDNIGHT. In fact, why would the families even go to the theater? would the hospital be a better place for that? or do families let Bobby bleed out before getting into the ambulance just for a photo op? This simple statement in the police tapes proves it was all a pre planned setup, with the families and press already on scene before it even started. If you have been bamboozled into believing people died in that theater, you really need to look at the evidence and switch on your B.S. detector.".....

And further on in the article:


"Now on to other improbablilites. When doing a search of the names from Aurora on even a small search engine a week after the shooting, ALL VICTIMS FROM AURORA HAD:

1. A complete shutout of the first 50 hits on even a small search engine, as proven by this photo. Search engine hits
2. A memorial page on facebook.
3. A donation page, in their honor on facebook.

Let's contrast that with a real murder scene, the Sikh temple shooting.

2 of the people shut out the first 10 hits on Google, and one of them was the father of the Emmy award winning director Arm Kaleka, who was producing a major disclosure movie about government corruption, stealing of energy technologies, and hidden contact. These hits were because the alternative press covered the story. The others who died did not show up on Google at all. Arm Kaleka had received numerous threats that if he did not stop producing the movie, members of his family would be killed.

NONE of the people at the Sikh temple had a facebook page set up in their honor, nor were any donation pages set up. And attributing this to culture is not good enough, because Sikhs attend Bat Man movies, and not EVERYONE at Aurora would have put up a facebook page in the honor of their lost loved one. It just does not work that way unless it's all a pre planned psy op. These pages were made ahead of time, before the shooting and were simply posted at the "appropriate" time.

Let's look at the difference between the photos coming out of Aurora which was fake, and the Sikh temple where people actually died: "...


Sounds crazy, maybe even paranoid? There's another interesting article on the front page dated August 8, 2012 entitled, "Media Whistle blower confirms Wag The Dog is NORMAL"


"The site hacks started with this article, and got worse after the Navy Vet's testimony. So this one is important as well
8/8/12

I received this mail in response to my work related to the Bat Man shooting, a report in which I clearly showed it was NOT what we were told. My comments will follow."

[wynderer]

edit: mods, i'm not shortening this because 1] we USAmericans don't listen to the political voice of our Original Peoples very often, tho we like their 'shamanic traditions'

& 2] i think some good points are made in here, such as that all in the theater were choosing to watch a very violent movie

from Mohawk Nation News -- the violence in Colorado seen thru the Original People's eyes

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AURORA TODAY’S SAND CREEK MASSACRE 1864
Posted on July 21, 2012 by admin
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MNN. July 21, 2012. The Aurora theatre killer, James Holmes, grew up in San Diego California. His mother sent him to Denver to study for his Phd in neuroscience.

Americans are horrified about the chaotic, horrific, tumultuous and bloody mass murders in the movie theatre showing “Dark Night Rises”. Yet they live unconcerned over the top of our graves. This hemisphere is soaked in our people’s blood, all killed by psychotic mass murderers.


Aurora is 100 miles from the site of the Sand Creek massacre, November 29, 1864. Old Denver families were behind this mass murder of Cheyenne and Arapaho men, women and children.



In the spring of 1864 the Cheyenne and Arapaho were ready for peace. They met with US Officers, Evans and Chivington, at Camp Weld outside of Denver. No treaties were signed. The Indians were offered a sanctuary at Fort Lyon. Black Kettle and over 500 Cheyenne and Arapaho travelled south to set up camp on Sand Creek, near Eads, the town later built on top of the massacre site. Some dissenters headed north to join the Sioux.

General Samuel Curtis sent a telegram, “I want no peace till the Indians suffer more”. 700 Cavalry volunteers called “100 Dazers”, assembled in Denver. The camps of Chief Black Kettle, White Antelope, Left Hand and others, lay in the valley before them. Chivington, with mostly drunken troops, headed to Sand Creek with 4 Howitzers. Black Kettle raised both flags of peace. Chivington raised his arm for attack. Cannon and rifles pounded the camp. The Indians scattered. The frenzied soldiers hunted down and murdered the men, women and children. A few warriors managed to fight back. Silas Soule of Massachussets did not allow his soldiers to fire into the crowd.

Troops continued the murders all day. One bragged about killing 3 women and 5 children who were screaming for mercy. They murdered all the wounded, mutilated and scalped them. They cut open the pregnant women’s bellies and laid the fetus on the bodies. They plundered tipis and divided up the herd of horses. Black Kettle’s wife was shot 9 times and survived. The Cheyenne Dog Warriors who opposed the peace treaty provided sanctuary for the survivors.

The Colorado volunteers returned to Denver as heroes, with scalps of women and children. Colorado residents celebrated. Chivington appeared on a Denver stage telling war stories and displayed 100 Indigenous scalps, including pubic hair of women. Many of the elite of Denver society today are the children of these murderers.

Eye witnesses came forward and reported the murders. Silas Soule testified against Chivington, and was murdered by Charles Squires. It was found to be a carefully planned massacre. Asked why kids were killed, “Nits make lice”, said Chivington.

As word of the massacre spread, the Indigenous resistance to white expansion stiffened. This massacre led to the Little Big Horn battle on June 25-6, 1876 where General George Custer and his men were wiped out by the Lakota lead by Crazy Horse and Sitting Bull.

In December 29, 1890, the US 7th Cavalry commanded by Samuel M. Whitside lead the massacre of over 350 Lakota at Wounded Knee Creek.

We have had to live with these horrors since the arrival of the invaders, while they send their “cry babies” to doctors for counselling.

That mindset to slaughter people was brought here. 80 are shot and killed daily in the US, not counting stabbings and death by other means.

Orders always come from the top. On December 26, 1862 Lincoln sanctioned the hanging of 38 randomly picked Indian men and boys without trial, the largest mass hanging in US history. One week later, January 1, 1863, Lincoln signed the Emancipation Proclamation to free the slaves. The Blacks then formed the regiment called the Buffalo Soldiers who proudly massacred the Indigenous for their masters. Today both races celebrate their plunder with medals and the theft of our land.

Was James Holmes trying to mimic the mindset of those Denver people? If he is insane, then Washington, Grant and Lincoln, and all the other presidents who gave orders to totally annihilate us, are all insane as well.

The Americans must be reminded of this continuing genocide. If they don’t know their history, it is bound to repeat itself. The lesson is: be careful what you ask for, you might just get it.

The movie-goers went to the theatre to see murder, death, chaos and plunder. Then they got it for real!


As Bob Marley sang about, “Buffalo soldier, dread-lock rasta.”

MNN Mohawk Nation News kahentinetha2@yahoo.com For more news, books, workshops, to donate and sign up for MNN newsletters, go to www.mohawknationnews.com More stories at MNN Archives. Address: Box 991, Kahnawake [Quebec, Canada] J0L 1B0

[Carmody]

the more important thing to take away from this is that any group who may expose themselves in any way via such a manipulation of a person, is inherently in a weak position, not a strong one.

For having a strong position, would mean that one would never expose themselves or take a chance of damaging or exposing the self or group, via such an action.

No need to make it any more complex than that, regarding the basics in this equation.

[TargeT]

Originally it was posted either here or on TheOneTruth forum with leads to the original article (sorry can't find it) that Holmes's father - Robert Holmes - was scheduled to be questioned in the LIBOR hearings the following weeks.

Does anyone know any follow up to this. Certainly seems like another 'strange' coincidence, does it not?

This is an important question, however if there was a scheduled testimony you would think it would be all over; the coincidence is too strong for it not to be jumped on by communities like this one.

Therefor I consider this to be incorrect; though certainly it is consevable that the company he works for is involved in some way.

[Carmody]

the more important thing to take away from this is that any group who may expose themselves in any way via such a manipulation of a person, is inherently in a weak position, not a strong one.

For having a strong position, would mean that one would never expose themselves or take a chance of damaging or exposing the self or group, via such an action.

No need to make it any more complex than that, regarding the basics in this equation.

Deleted, as the basic logical conclusion... might be a bit harsh.

[Referee]

Robert Holmes will no Longer be testifying in the LIBOR Scandal is not True...... Sorcha Faall

In fact the entire angle may have originated from the same article via Sorcha Faall

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[truth4me]

Sorcha Faal is David Booth....abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread304918/pg1

[RampartRanger]

I live very close to the theater of the "Batman shooting".

Are there any questions I could answer or dirt I could dig up? I have boots on the ground and want to help, but I haven't followed this event closely (watching "The James Holmes Conspiracy" documentary on YT now to catch-up).

[RampartRanger]

C'mon, no one's following this anymore?

Not that I'm surprised...my neighbors and co-workers, like myself, live near the site of the "Dark Knight Massacre"...but that isn't stopping anyone from going to the movies or anywhere else in public out of fear, even though most are absolutely defenseless. This "tragedy" has already been forgotten and is yesterday's news especially in light of the Sandy Hook incident.

But I am still very much interested in James Holmes and what supposedly happened at the theater, especially given what seems to be a connection between everything (Columbine, Dark Knight Massacre, Sandy Hook, etc.). The theater is within 10 minutes from my door. Columbine is a slightly longer drive. Is there anything a boots-on-the-ground investigator could do at this point to help solve either of these mysteries?

[ThePythonicCow]

C'mon, no one's following this anymore?
Don't confuse (1) the lack of specific suggestions on what you might do there, with (2) lack of interest in understanding this and other such incidents should any more evidence or insight come out.

[Fred Steeves]

That's a good point Paul, the theatre shooting was thoroughly discussed over 24 pages, and seldom do threads make it that far. RampartRanger, living there gives you a front row seat that the rest of us don't have. Please do take it upon yourself to ask your own questions, and follow up on them with a video, pictures, local newspaper articles, word of mouth, etc..I guarantee you will raise eyebrows if you uncover something only some locals are privy to.

Ha! Of course now that I've said that, I do have a lingering question that concerns both recent shootings. Being that you live in Aurora, I'll stick to your locale. Surely there are honest local cops there who genuinely desire to do the "old fashioned" serve and protect thing, and who also couldn't help but noticing the glaring inconsistancies, omissions, and story changes, especially during the first couple of days after the shooting. Now if I were a cop, and knew things I shouldn't of something so horrific, I would have a VERY tough time with that.

What kept your good local cops quiet, in the face of such blatant coverups?

[RampartRanger]

I figured I would have my own questions after reading through this thread but I'm only a few pages in.

Fred, I'd say the potential of losing one's job is what kept most skeptical cops quiet. I wish I knew some Arapahoe County Sheriffs or Aurora LEOs...my girlfriend's dad is a school resource officer (also a legitimate LEO) in the suburbs a few minutes south of me.

[Fred Steeves]

my girlfriend's dad is a school resource officer (also a legitimate LEO) in the suburbs a few minutes south of me.

Well there you go then brother...Why not practice proper discernment, and have an honest, but tactful chat with him when the time is right?

[RampartRanger]

I have. He's very open and honest about everything, but he knows nothing about the Dark Knight Massacre beyond what he saw on TV. He's not a higher up, so to speak, that knows a lot of other LEOs outside his jurisdiction.

[Referee]

Well this video looked interesting to me Looks like a female guard at the facility holding James Holmes posed as an inmate and gave a news interview about his condition in the jail take a look pretty bizarre. Guess what was told to the media James is boasting and knows very well what he did.

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