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Alie
20th July 2012, 13:59
Does anyone have a Natural - Healing recommendation for Depression? (Not mine, but someone I care about).

I know of some herbs --- KavaKava & St. Johns Wort, but would appreciate your input. Thanks.

Eram
20th July 2012, 14:15
Hi Alie,

Having suffered from years of depression I can tell a few things here, but... short of time I will keep it short for now.

It is very helpful to start eating healthy food/drinks and food supplements and get rid of bad food/drinks. I have witnessed this is myself and family members, that when we started eating and drinking healthy bio organic foods... there was a major lift in the 'mood' department.

so:
- no alcohol
- no heavy medicine
- no anti- depressives
- as little sugar as possible
- cut away the unhealthy food additives like mono...glutamaat etc. E621 etc. etc.

and;
- eat organic
- balanced food intake.
- use food supplements like... chlorella, vitamin D3, C, E, magnesium, etc etc ( it can take a while to sort out what you need)
- lots of fruits, nuts and vegetables

further:
- get rid of the TV (unless one is not a heavy user)
- do physical activity


well... there is more to it, but you get the picture I guess..

If one sticks to this ... mostly the depression will fade away or decrease significantly.

Vitalux
20th July 2012, 14:41
See if you can get a hold of some dmt or ayahuasca
That stuff has a way of connecting you to a new perspective of seeing things and allows you to understand that there is a program of fear that is so heavily woven into our social fabric, that its intent is to keep everyone feeling like you do.
We are controlled from a higher evolution by use of fear.

Plus, avoid reading all the doom and gloom posts here as well....that is just throwing salt on a wound.

By experiencing dmt you will discover there really is life beyond what our five senses see.

Fear = Depression so to cure it you have to address the fear. Not close your eyes from it and pretend it is not there. Ask yourself, why do we enjoy watching and reading doom and gloom information around us, and then we are not able to clue into the fact that it will affect us.

Arrowwind
20th July 2012, 14:45
Look into GABA. Just do a search on this and the following.

also lithium orinate if depression is severe.

SAMe is also reported to be quite helpful and is the first line of
treatment in some places in Europe.

add exercise, at least walking daily. Aerobic exercise is best for this.

If the depression has a situational componet,, ie. loss of work or mate, or whatever
counseling will be helpful. If one is depressed due to a situational event then the best thing
someone can do it to find a way to give to others. Giving helps to heal loss and puts their attention elsewhere..

B vitamins are essential including injections of B12 weekly.

eliminate trash food and replace with real food 3x day (lots of depressed people dont eat and it spirals them downward) and assess any other medications they may be on as these could cause depression problems.

donk
20th July 2012, 15:01
...mostly the depression will fade away or decrease significantly.

As someone who was told I had "chronic depression" (since I guess I was born?), I take exception to this. It will not "fade away" or decrease in any any way until the issues causing it are dealt with.

Going to the other side of the spectrum--powerful sh!t like DMT, may not be that good of an answer either...if she is not mentally and spiritually able to handle it, it can be damaging.

I recomend: Counseling (not necessarily professionally), honesty, personal responsibility.

I see Depression as something becomes a truly physical ailment, but I believe it is just a manifestation of your emotional reactions and attachments to reality.

I believe a managable amount of depression is a sign to me you are awake and alive, how could you not be depressed knowing the atrocities that are happening all around, in this anti-life path of "civilization" that someone chose for us. You can only transcend the crippling amount that comes from knowing that your way of life is at the expense of about 7 billion other lives when you can take responsibility for your part, and stop blaming, being a victim and living in fear...which is what it seems to me is programmed into all of us in the "civilized" world.

Anyway, just sharing my experience. I am not a doctor. I got here on two key physical means: 1. quit drinking 2. low dose (3rd of what my pregnant wife was prescribed to quit smoking) of SSRIs. I would recomend #1 to everyone, for any reason, the 2nd i would never recomend to anyone. It was an incredibly powerful and to me necessary bandaid with little to no extra effects, i was respectful (read: fearful) of it, and it's addictive properties, and i used it as tool along side of counseling and constant work on my self...without all of that, it becomes another crutch, a vice even: the magic happy soma sh!t that makes personal responsibilty not matter and I would guess could make depression horribly worse (underneath the chemical effects).

good luck, much love.

Sidney
20th July 2012, 15:01
I once had very severe depression. It was pretty bad, and I had tried antidepressants, st johns wort and a variety of other natural supplements with no progress at all. I went to an accupuncturist, which was a huge effort considering I am a huge needle phobic. I had 3 sessions I think, and after the first one, the depression was GONE. I was a huge skeptic going in, with no expectations.
The session, I admit was very intense (emotionally). Somehow, it unblocks whatever the blockage is, I don't know how it works, but It did.
If possible, get a kitten. Nothing improves my mood better than a baby animal that is dependent on our love and assistance. Meow. : )

Arrowwind
20th July 2012, 15:39
And then I forgot... much of depression is caused by a lack of iodine.

this film by Dr Brownstein will explain.

http://w3.newsmax.com/newsletters/brownstein/iodine_video/?s=al&promo_code=F5EC-1

Meesh
20th July 2012, 15:44
...and monitor your thoughts. Cognitive distortions or taking your thoughts too seriously contributes greatly to depression. Feeling Good: The New Mood Therapy(David Burns) is a great self-help books for eliminating cognitive distortions. If a person has depression, he/she definitely makes more of these distortions than the average person. Meditation also helps with not getting so
attached to your thoughts.

NancyV
20th July 2012, 15:49
I've been reading a lot lately about Oxytocin. It sounds promising.

http://psychcentral.com/news/2012/02/20/treating-depression-with-the-oxytocin-the-love-hormone/35027.html

Treating Depression With Oxytocin, The Love Hormone

When a person hugs or affectionately touches another, the brain chemical oxytocin is released, helping to strengthen social bonds, among other actions.

This “hormone of love” might provide hope for those suffering with depression, according to researchers who are currently conducting a clinical trial.

“In humans, oxytocin is released when they hug or experience other pleasant physical touch, and it plays a part in the human sexual response cycle,” said Dr. Kai MacDonald, assistant clinical professor of psychiatry at UC San Diego School of Medicine.

Oxytocin seems to change the brain signals responsible for social recognition through facial expressions, says MacDonald, perhaps by changing the firing of the amygdala, the area of the brain that plays a major role in the processing of important emotional stimuli. Therefore, oxytocin in the brain may be a very strong mediator of human social behavior.

“That’s why oxytocin is sometimes called ‘the love hormone,’” said MacDonald. “It’s said that the eyes are the window to the soul… they certainly are the window to the emotional brain. We know that the eye-to-eye communication, which is affected by oxytocin, is critical to intimate emotional communication for all kind of emotions — love, fear, trust, anxiety.”

Previously, UC San Diego researchers discovered that oxytocin could help those with schizophrenia, and MacDonald and colleague David Feifel, M.D., Ph.D., professor of psychiatry, are now enrolling participants to study its role in clinical depression.

“Studies of blood levels and genetic factors in depressed patients point to the possibility that this natural hormone might play a part in helping clinical depression,” said MacDonald.

“Previously, studies of healthy individuals have shown that intranasal doses of oxytocin reduce activation of brain circuits involved in fear, increase levels of eye contact, and increase both trust and generosity,” MacDonald said. “Interestingly, people given oxytocin don’t report feeling any different, but they act differently.”

Early clinical data also indicates oxytocin may help women with anxiety disorders.

“A hug or a touch that causes a release of this hormone might somehow change brain signals,” MacDonald said. “We want to see if we can harness this response to help patients who suffer from depression.”

blufire
20th July 2012, 16:03
I would suggest to first determine if the depression is from a bio-chemical (hormones, serotonin etc) imbalance or depression from environmental or situational (life) difficulties or inability to cope or adapt.

The cure or healing modes are different or more successful if the cause of the depression is determined first.

Soul Safari
20th July 2012, 16:40
I had mild depression and panic attacks for a good few years.

Detoxed with Apple Cider Vinegar, Cayenne Pepper and Manuka Honey.

And if you want to put a smile on your boat race (that's 'face' to the rest of the world) you can't beat some Vitamin D. Strongly recommend this- http://www.red23.co.uk/Blue-Ice-Royal-120-Caps_p_286.html?osCsid=erd38doojdb7jqqi65j0nkpub7

HORIZONS
20th July 2012, 16:45
A superfood diet is the best place to start, and Niacin is said to help with depression as well - but you need to read up on its use and not just take supplements at random.

ljwheat
20th July 2012, 17:02
Home grown fruits & vegetables raw if possible will put you back to resemble level physical health. But until you kick your TV set to the curb, digital programming is the last part of the puzzle so many have over looked.

Fast for 30 days of TV viewing. If you cant, then there is nothing else you can do. it’s a silent killer of the subconscious mind, still alive and well, and unchallenged because of its already brain washed the masses. If you don’t stand up right now and unplug the dam thing this moment then you too are under its control.

An uplifting conversation with some one here on Avalon, a good book, light classical music, and a healthy diet, and exercise, Stay away from TV, and Movie’s and friends and family that do.

John xoxo

Antagenet
20th July 2012, 17:08
exercise, especially aerobic

exercise is the necessary metabolism activator that will assist
the body in using all the nutritional supplements better.

EsmaEverheart
20th July 2012, 17:08
When I have had the Blues in the past, I have found that a 20 to 30 minute walk has helped me a lot.

taliesin
20th July 2012, 17:15
Turmeric has sorted me right out, changed my life - 1 tsp a day in hot water with ground black pepper. It works.

xxx

nearing
20th July 2012, 17:36
I have been battling bouts of severe and moderate depression since I was an adolescent. I live a very clean life (eat organically, mostly fruits and veggies, take all od the supplements mentioned in the posts above and more, keep my Vit D3 levels between 60-70ng/ml, exercise hard regularly, get 9 hours of sleep a night, meditate, have a cat, have meaningful work, etc) although I do have a glass of wine nightly.

I have not been able to beat the monster yet.

I have saved up the cash to a central American country to have Iboga Therapy in September. I am very hopeful that this will 're-set' my neural network, as many testimonials have described it. Since the cause of my depression is something that happened when I was an infant, a re-set is really the only way.

I will let you all know how it goes.

Here is the website of the place:

www.ibogahouse.com

Tony
20th July 2012, 17:46
It depends on the individual.
All the above will help. Sometimes this is long term symptom, sometimes it's a short term symptom. Sometimes it is chemical, and sometimes it is conceptual.
Having someone who will listen, and empathise must help. There are negatives and positives to all our lives, and so it's useful to look closely into both.
Sometimes we are in a grey place (mentally) which is easier to work with, but then we may go into a very dark place, and that needs much closer inspection.

My personal point of view is that we should be a little depressed about life... I once saw a T-shirt in Boulder Colorado which read..."If you are well adjusted to life, then you are really f*cked up!"

Depression can bring out a lot of deep questioning. I'd rather talk to a depressed person than a happy one! As a society we try to make life cosy: "Let's all be happy, let's party!"
Some of us are not like that. We are dissatisfied with life................and it is such a relief to know it's OK to be dissatisfied!

A lot of people are depressed because they cannot 'fit in' with what is going on around them, and it causes much inner conflict trying to be what we are not.

Yours, happily depressed,
Tony

Ps. A change of scenery/nature does help.

childs hood end
20th July 2012, 18:00
Sunshine is known to be mankind's best natural antidepressant.... isent this one of the reasons for chemtrails...

Dont worry Be Happy now

Alie
20th July 2012, 20:16
THANKS EVERYONE!

GREAT INFO for me to share.

jessamy99
20th July 2012, 20:39
I have had a tendency to be depressed in the past.
Now, I deal with life differently.
I am so glad to wake up and find all the precious stuff around me.
My garden is full of orange poppies!
My cat rubs her face against mine, cheek to cheek!
My husband makes us a cup of coffee.
My home is so comfortable, and the roof doesn't leak.
The bills are paid.
We have a car and go to the cinema.
I am so happy watching the clouds rush across the sky, rain on its way.
I can hear the birds singing.
Traffic in the distance.
Children shouting.
I just love being here.
I am really lucky.
With lots of love xxxxx

778 neighbour of some guy
20th July 2012, 21:59
B1, B6, B12 and lots of daylight, some excercise balances out hormones as well

Flash
21st July 2012, 03:12
I've been reading a lot lately about Oxytocin. It sounds promising.

http://psychcentral.com/news/2012/02/20/treating-depression-with-the-oxytocin-the-love-hormone/35027.html

Treating Depression With Oxytocin, The Love Hormone

When a person hugs or affectionately touches another, the brain chemical oxytocin is released, helping to strengthen social bonds, among other actions.

This “hormone of love” might provide hope for those suffering with depression, according to researchers who are currently conducting a clinical trial.

“In humans, oxytocin is released when they hug or experience other pleasant physical touch, and it plays a part in the human sexual response cycle,” said Dr. Kai MacDonald, assistant clinical professor of psychiatry at UC San Diego School of Medicine.

Oxytocin seems to change the brain signals responsible for social recognition through facial expressions, says MacDonald, perhaps by changing the firing of the amygdala, the area of the brain that plays a major role in the processing of important emotional stimuli. Therefore, oxytocin in the brain may be a very strong mediator of human social behavior.

“That’s why oxytocin is sometimes called ‘the love hormone,’” said MacDonald. “It’s said that the eyes are the window to the soul… they certainly are the window to the emotional brain. We know that the eye-to-eye communication, which is affected by oxytocin, is critical to intimate emotional communication for all kind of emotions — love, fear, trust, anxiety.”

Previously, UC San Diego researchers discovered that oxytocin could help those with schizophrenia, and MacDonald and colleague David Feifel, M.D., Ph.D., professor of psychiatry, are now enrolling participants to study its role in clinical depression.

“Studies of blood levels and genetic factors in depressed patients point to the possibility that this natural hormone might play a part in helping clinical depression,” said MacDonald.

“Previously, studies of healthy individuals have shown that intranasal doses of oxytocin reduce activation of brain circuits involved in fear, increase levels of eye contact, and increase both trust and generosity,” MacDonald said. “Interestingly, people given oxytocin don’t report feeling any different, but they act differently.”

Early clinical data also indicates oxytocin may help women with anxiety disorders.

“A hug or a touch that causes a release of this hormone might somehow change brain signals,” MacDonald said. “We want to see if we can harness this response to help patients who suffer from depression.”

this is why i always thought that we should pay back the heavy chemtrailing we have been subjected to by

chemtrailing Rotchilds dwellings, Rockerfeller dwellings, all their meeting places with oxytocin

Lets spray the white house with the love hormone lol

all psychopaths being sprayed....

Rozzy
21st July 2012, 05:46
Getting angry and raising hell all around until feeling better seems to work for me! :fish:

Ellisa
21st July 2012, 06:12
I was going to suggest turmeric but someone already has!
St John's Wort is actually used in mainstream medicine in Europe and is quite successful apparently. Be careful though if you try it. There are side effects and it can have bad interactions with other prescribed medications.

Good luck and I hope it clears soon. I did like the animal suggestion, but not just babies--- they grow up you know!

NancyV
21st July 2012, 06:14
I would suggest to first determine if the depression is from a bio-chemical (hormones, serotonin etc) imbalance or depression from environmental or situational (life) difficulties or inability to cope or adapt.

The cure or healing modes are different or more successful if the cause of the depression is determined first.
I agree, it's important to know something about what is causing the depression. I had never been depressed in my life, other than the usual short traumas of lost love, divorces, etc. etc., but I always got over it quickly. So I never really understood what people meant when they said they were constantly depressed. Luckily I got to find out. I had a stroke and because of something that happened to my brain I was depressed! LOL... It was amazing! I couldn't do anything to change it. I immediately went on a fresh juice fast, then all raw foods, oral chelation, all kinds of supplements, etc. But the depression persisted along with other stroke symptoms for two months. Then I started some treatments.

I have mentioned this a couple of times before, but it bears repeating because it cured my depression completely and all my stroke symptoms. I had 20 Pulsed Electromagnetic Field Therapy treatments with a Papimi machine. My depression stopped within 2 treatments and has not come back in the 6 years since I had the treatments. So if there is something wrong with your brain, you might think about PEMFT (Pulsed Electromagnetic Field Therapy). I think it would work for depression from almost ANY cause because it allows your body to heal on a cellular level.

You can look at some videos on youtube for the MRS2000, Bemer3000 and Medithera. The Papimi is no longer legal in the US. Here is a doctor who uses the MRS2000 herself and in her clinic in Santa Fe, NM:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIXha-O14LA

Fondoo
21st July 2012, 22:39
Tony's post struck a similar cord in me. There is depression/sadness and there is our resistance to depression the latter one we can always work with directly in the moment.
So much sadness in the world why should a caring being be immune too feeling it. Westerners in particular, so much of the material wealth we have enjoyed in our history has been ill gotten. If there is any truth to past lives we could have had direct hand in it. Even working for the church for 500 years believing to be serving god we could have been serving the greed of the bishops instead. Intention may set the degree of the negative karma but it's still a messy pot to be stirring in.
I am, and behave like a good man but patterns of depression and self loathing can still feel like a death grip.
I am new to this forum and the quality of these responses is very encouraging for me.
Tracy

9eagle9
22nd July 2012, 00:27
While most of the botanical and herbal advice is effective that treats the organic conveyers of depression but does little to affect the emotion itself which isn't chemical.

Depression is often times a defense mechanism where people are prompted to turn inward and not engage so externally.

Personally I accept my depression instead of rushing to abate it, to release the non chemical emotional part of it. Because we are told something is Wrong about being depressed people rush to fix with natural remedies as quick as some are to rush to fix with pharma chemicals.

Accept that you are depressed, and don't judge but rushing off to fix what may not be wrong.

There is nothing wrong with episodes where one actively withdraws from engaging in life. It often highlights a profound transition point in one's time that we try to rush away from to feel 'normal'.

Most people have never been normal to even know what normal feels like, and depression often heralds a shift in stuck energies trying to release themselves.

Go sit somewhere and be depressed, engage in depressed behaviors,(not suicide) withdrawal, don't force yourself to attend to things that previously interested you, don't do what you don't feel like doing, do do what you feel like doing, and its pretty amazing how fast allowing depression to release happens naturally. Then support it with herbal chemical adjustments. It may take up to four days , and it will be roller coastery, you are okay one moment and then depressed again the next.

Don't judge depression, just accept that is how you are feeling, and feel it, and that is releasing it.

Same as anger. People rush to fix their anger instead of accepting they are angry and try to fix the emotion. You don't fix emotions you, release them. You don't fix love, you release it. You don't fix anger, you release. You don't fix depression you release it.

Flash
22nd July 2012, 00:52
i agree with 9eagle9 bsically. However, when it recurrently destructive, 1 month or 2 of 5HTP works wonderfully without addiction or side effects. 5HTP enhance the production of serotonine precursors, therefore helping the brain to produce serotonine (good mood hormone).

Earth Angel
22nd July 2012, 01:03
EFT ? lots of great youtubes on how to do this, easy to learn and can be done anywhere.......having said that I always mean to do this for my own issues and somehow never do! perhaps I need to tap on why I don't tap lol

9eagle9
22nd July 2012, 15:20
You may think you are joking but i've actually done that. Why am I so unwilling to take care of myself is the actual question.

And it went back to self value.



EFT ? lots of great youtubes on how to do this, easy to learn and can be done anywhere.......having said that I always mean to do this for my own issues and somehow never do! perhaps I need to tap on why I don't tap lol

Earth Angel
22nd July 2012, 15:52
No doubt that is the issue.......if I know I have a problem and I believe EFT might be useful as well as daily meditation, then why do I keep talking about doing it and not DOING it .....on some level I think I deserve to suffer


You may think you are joking but i've actually done that. Why am I so unwilling to take care of myself is the actual question.

And it went back to self value.



EFT ? lots of great youtubes on how to do this, easy to learn and can be done anywhere.......having said that I always mean to do this for my own issues and somehow never do! perhaps I need to tap on why I don't tap lol

21CC
24th July 2012, 22:55
I had completely forgotten about the a.c.vinegar regime. My Dad did this exact honey and cayenne pepper, easy-to-implement routine all through the '70-80's and just sort of forgot, too... He did live to 99 and passed a couple of years ago, healthy, content, with the most peaceful smile and rosy cheeks. I miss my Pa. He was a gentle man who was a pioneer of Holistics, especially Reflexology and worked hard to "legitimize" massage therapy in eras when it was deemed quackery.

Black Panther
4th August 2012, 13:03
Plus, avoid reading all the doom and gloom posts here as well....that is just throwing salt on a wound.


Most threads are about doom and gloom and reading all the threads makes us really
depressed, because than it looks like there is no hope for humanity. "Where focus goes,
energy follows". Instead of focusing on the bad things happening in the world, this is a
thread with solutions. Avalon can use more positive threads. Before finishing this
post I have read the 'The Spiritual Conspiracy' of Bill http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?48125-The-Spiritual-Conspiracy. The Universe responds even before asking! That makes me happy.

There is another thread about alternatives to Prozac: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?22034-Help-...-Alternative-to-Prozac-needed&p=262395#post262395

bogeyman
4th August 2012, 13:26
This is some info, I picked up some time ago. I will also say, the way society works and what it expects of us, isnt helping out mental well being, not to say our physical health:

Take Action and Make an Action Plan:

By taking action you will feel that you are taking control and in control of the situation. This can also build self-confidence and self-esteem. Think on paper and create an action plan. Go through the following and see how you can include them in your action plan, how you will apply them, and how you think they will help you.

Physical exercise helps with stress, anxiety, and depression:

Physical exercise releases chemicals that can help counter the effects of stress and depression. Short (20 minutes) time efficient and high intensity interval training on a tread mill can help and can also be repeated daily. To be able to repeat this training daily the key is not to over exert yourself in one training session. Keep it short and intense so that you are able to recover quickly. This counters the effects of the stress hormone, releasing chemicals, burning the adrenaline and cortisol, pushing blood to the brain, and returning the body to a relaxed state. You should always warm-up the body and heart before intensive exercise and a cool down is also recommended to help you recover (lactic acid). Long distance runners are familiar with the "runners high" which is brought on by the release of endorphins in the brain.

Laughter is great medicine:

Laughter releases chemicals, endorphins, in your brain that can help with stress and depression and many people advocate laughter therapy. It also lowers the stress hormones and strengthens the immune system. The simple act of smiling releases endorphins.
Smiling and Acceptance (opposite of rejection):

The simple act of smiling releases endorphins in the brain. Both laughter and smiling are contagious. When you smile at someone they usually reciprocate with a smile and this is associated to acceptance and making a connection with someone. It's the opposite of rejection. Smiling also enhances peoples view of you. Some studies show that people who are depressed have weaker smiling muscles and advocate smiling therapy in which the person exercise making the smiling facial expression with eyes wide open and reaps the same benefits as a normal smile. Try this exercise and see what results you get. Make the smiling expression with eyes wide open for a few seconds and then rub or massage your face and head for several seconds for an endorphins fix. Do not do this in front of a mirror if you will view yourself negatively and look for flaws. If you do it in front of a mirror while smiling and rubbing your face, think positive and loving thoughts and see how it affects you.

Get a therapeutic massage:

A therapeutic massage stimulates the skin and is linked to affection. It releases chemicals in your brain, endorphins, and can help with stress, depression, and strengthen your immune system. (massage therapy and touch therapy) It relaxes muscles, increases blood circulation and lymph flow, and can alleviating pain in migraine sufferers.

Condition your mind positively:

One of the symptoms of depression is that you probably have feelings of hopelessness and despair. Your mind can also be conditioned negatively to always see the negative side of things or expect the worse. The opposite is also true, you can condition your mind to think positively or expect positive outcomes. It’s not easy at first and does require effort but eventually it can change and become almost automatic where you will be thinking positively instead of negatively. You have a lot of imagination so play the positive imagination game. You may have heard these expressions: look on the bright side, put a positive spin on it or spin it positively. (see also Conditioning your mind negatively or positively)

Act Happy (condition your mind happy):

Act the way you want to feel and soon you will feel the way you act. This is common in self confidence building therapies or courses where you are asked to act the part of or like a confident person. You soon develop that skill or behavior which results in the person having more confidence. There is increasing evidence that acting enraged, obsessed, malevolent, or depressed maybe bad for you. Actor Leonard DiCaprio developed obsessive-compulsive disorder while playing Howard Hughes in the block buster The Aviator. This often happens to actors who get "caught up" in the role they play or keep many of the same character traits of the role they played. Heath Ledger who played the Joker in the Batman movie died and was allegedly clinically depressed. If you act having an enraged or angry conversation with someone, you will usually find that your emotions do get engaged even though you are simply acting the part. When you are acting happy, you are thinking happy thoughts that go with the acting role you are playing, so it's like conditioning your mind to be happy. So try acting happy and you can also consider it "acting happy therapy".

Change your negative self talk to a positive self talk:

If your self talk is negative and you are always criticizing or putting yourself down, you should change this self talk to a more positive one. Try seeing errors and mistakes as a learning experience for example. Something that you can use to learn from and improve on. Many people consider life its self as a learning experience.

Visual and Auditory Brain Stimulation (positivity):

You can try listening to classical or new age music while watching your favorite scenic video or using the visualization function on your music player (windows media player, winamp, itunes).
Many studies indicate that classical music stimulates the brain in many positive ways, adding the visualization function of your player, with many different patterns and colors, can also stimulate your brain in positive ways.

Listen to calming or uplifting rhythmical music:

There are many positive effects from music and people also advocate that some types of music such as Mozart can also make you smarter by working different regions of the brain. You can also try singing one of your favorite positive and uplifting songs (similar to positive self talk and affirmations).

Get a dose of sun light and bright colors:

Light therapy is becoming more popular for seasonal depression. Light therapy can also strengthen your immune system.
Getting a dose of bright colors from watching a colorful movie or cartoons can also have positive effects on the brain.

Positive Visualization:

Many Professional athletes use positive visualization to practice a perfect performance or outcome in their minds. You can do the same or something similar. Visualize good performances, success, and positive outcomes instead of negative outcomes. Practice recalling positive images of your favorite scenic pictures, using your imagination to visualize a calm ocean and beach for example, positive memories, and positive events or actions such as helping friends or people and successful events such as graduations. How you see yourself, yourself image, is also important. Visualize yourself in a positive way, intelligent, caring, and brave for example, do not dwell on your flaws but improve them.

Use positive affirmations:

Using positive affirmations can change your thinking and subconscious. (similar to positive self talk)

Take steps to build self-esteem (set goals and help others):

Setting goals, taking action, accomplishments, success, and helping others, how you value yourself and self-worth, can be very rewarding and can help you build self-esteem.
When you complete a task or a major task your brain releases endorphins the happy and feel good hormone. You feel happy and your self-esteem usually also goes up too. When you complete a major task, reward yourself to enhance these feelings and to further condition this habit of setting and accomplishing goals.

Take Omega 3:

Omega 3's have beneficial effects on the brain and many research articles also claim that it can prevent or help with depression. They are good for the brain, the heart, prevent cancer, and help you lose weight.

Get enough or the required sleep and exercise:
When you are stressed and worried, anxiety, you can suffer from insomnia and insomnia is linked to depression. Sleep deprivation also increases the stress hormone, cortisol, in your body. A person who is sleep deprived brain can look like that of psychotic person's brain in an MRI scan. You can exercise to counteract the effects of stress (Stress Management). Exercise increases blood flow to your brain, counteracts the stress hormones, cortisol and adrenaline, and releases endorphins in your brain, the "feel good and happy hormones". The result is that you will be more calm, relaxed, and sleep better.

Take a hot bath with scented oils:

Taking a hot bath and adding scented oils, Aromatherapy, before bed time also relaxes you and your body and should help you sleep better.

Stay active and preoccupied:

Stay active by doing house cleaning for example. By staying preoccupied your brain has less time to dwell on dark or negative thoughts. You'll also feel organized and productive and get the positive effects of this feeling. Tidiness has also been know to reduce stress and improve psychological health.

Socialize and do not Isolate yourself:

Socializing is therapeutic, works the brain, and makes you smarter. It can also preoccupy you and keep you from dwelling on negative thoughts. The positivity of those you socialize with can also rub off on you. Try to participate in activities and social events that contain comedy and laughter.

Good nutrition is also very important:

A deficiency in minerals and electrolytes, such as calcium, magnesium, and potassium can affect the brain. Too much calcium in your body can also cause a deficiency in your body of magnesium.
The body uses electrolytes to help regulate nerve and muscle function and to maintain acid-base balance and fluid balance.

SUN BLASTER compact fluorescent full spectrum lighting
Similar to Light Therapy compact fluorescent full spectrum lighting in your garden or flower room may have health benefits or help prevent depression.

(Healthy Light -> Healthy People <- Healthy Plants)

"Grow flowers and herbs indoors year round! Most indoor lighting is yellow orange, the narrowest part of the light spectrum. Full spectrum lighting contains all colors of the rainbow and is balanced like natural daylight, making them excellent for indoor gardening where the suns natural light is not available. Full spectrum ensures proper development and maximum growth! It's all about the light!"


The Brain is Changed

If you take a brain image of an ordinary person with no signs of any psychological disorders and submit them to psychological harassment for a long period of time the brain image will probably be different and have increased or decreased levels of activity in area's of the brain that are associated to psychological disorders or disease.

Also, as indicated on the stress effects page, one of the effects of long periods of stress is that it kills brain cells.

amenclinics.com :

''In a similar way, sleep deprivation also decreases brain activity and limits access to learning, memory, and concentration. A recent brain imaging study showed that people who consistently slept less than 7 hours had overall less brain activity. Sleep problems are very common in people who struggle with their thoughts and emotions. Getting enough sleep everyday is essential to brain function.
Scientists have only recently discovered how stress negatively affects brain function. Stress hormones have been shown in animals to be directly toxic to memory centers. Brain cells can die with prolonged stress. Managing stress effectively is essential to good brain function.''

"Happy and hopeful thoughts had an overall calming effect on the brain, while negative thoughts inflamed brain areas often involved with depression and anxiety."

"You can train your thoughts to be positive and hopeful or you can just allow them to be negative and upset you. That's right, it's up to you! You can learn how to change your thoughts and optimize your brain."

"Stay away from substances known to be toxic or those that decrease brain activity."

Magic Mineral Lifts Your Mood

A chemical found in everyday foods may help atypical depression. Duke University scientists found that consuming chromium picolinate, a trace mineral naturally found in whole grains, mushrooms, liver and many other foods, has significant effects on individuals suffering from atypical depression.

Soul Safari
4th August 2012, 13:32
I had completely forgotten about the a.c.vinegar regime. My Dad did this exact honey and cayenne pepper, easy-to-implement routine all through the '70-80's and just sort of forgot, too... He did live to 99 and passed a couple of years ago, healthy, content, with the most peaceful smile and rosy cheeks. I miss my Pa. He was a gentle man who was a pioneer of Holistics, especially Reflexology and worked hard to "legitimize" massage therapy in eras when it was deemed quackery.

I was having this debate down the pub last night. I had trouble convincing people this is how you can cure so many symptoms... one by one ill get there someday.

Saying that i bumped into an old friend this week. He listened to what i had to say about ACV a while back. He's also an 'Iron Man' (in the UK that's like the hardest swim,cycling,run you can enter) he's also the grumpiest man i ever met first thing in the morning. He has just finished his first bottle and he now is totally convinced. He said - 'What the f*ck have you given me? Im actually happy now. I can't believe it!'

Job done!

Camilo
5th August 2012, 00:05
All you (he, she ,they, us) need is LOVE!

spiritwind
5th August 2012, 11:17
This is some info, I picked up some time ago. I will also say, the way society works and what it expects of us, isnt helping out mental well being, not to say our physical health:

Take Action and Make an Action Plan:

By taking action you will feel that you are taking control and in control of the situation. This can also build self-confidence and self-esteem. Think on paper and create an action plan. Go through the following and see how you can include them in your action plan, how you will apply them, and how you think they will help you.

Physical exercise helps with stress, anxiety, and depression:

Physical exercise releases chemicals that can help counter the effects of stress and depression. Short (20 minutes) time efficient and high intensity interval training on a tread mill can help and can also be repeated daily. To be able to repeat this training daily the key is not to over exert yourself in one training session. Keep it short and intense so that you are able to recover quickly. This counters the effects of the stress hormone, releasing chemicals, burning the adrenaline and cortisol, pushing blood to the brain, and returning the body to a relaxed state. You should always warm-up the body and heart before intensive exercise and a cool down is also recommended to help you recover (lactic acid). Long distance runners are familiar with the "runners high" which is brought on by the release of endorphins in the brain.

Laughter is great medicine:

Laughter releases chemicals, endorphins, in your brain that can help with stress and depression and many people advocate laughter therapy. It also lowers the stress hormones and strengthens the immune system. The simple act of smiling releases endorphins.
Smiling and Acceptance (opposite of rejection):

The simple act of smiling releases endorphins in the brain. Both laughter and smiling are contagious. When you smile at someone they usually reciprocate with a smile and this is associated to acceptance and making a connection with someone. It's the opposite of rejection. Smiling also enhances peoples view of you. Some studies show that people who are depressed have weaker smiling muscles and advocate smiling therapy in which the person exercise making the smiling facial expression with eyes wide open and reaps the same benefits as a normal smile. Try this exercise and see what results you get. Make the smiling expression with eyes wide open for a few seconds and then rub or massage your face and head for several seconds for an endorphins fix. Do not do this in front of a mirror if you will view yourself negatively and look for flaws. If you do it in front of a mirror while smiling and rubbing your face, think positive and loving thoughts and see how it affects you.

Get a therapeutic massage:

A therapeutic massage stimulates the skin and is linked to affection. It releases chemicals in your brain, endorphins, and can help with stress, depression, and strengthen your immune system. (massage therapy and touch therapy) It relaxes muscles, increases blood circulation and lymph flow, and can alleviating pain in migraine sufferers.

Condition your mind positively:

One of the symptoms of depression is that you probably have feelings of hopelessness and despair. Your mind can also be conditioned negatively to always see the negative side of things or expect the worse. The opposite is also true, you can condition your mind to think positively or expect positive outcomes. It’s not easy at first and does require effort but eventually it can change and become almost automatic where you will be thinking positively instead of negatively. You have a lot of imagination so play the positive imagination game. You may have heard these expressions: look on the bright side, put a positive spin on it or spin it positively. (see also Conditioning your mind negatively or positively)

Act Happy (condition your mind happy):

Act the way you want to feel and soon you will feel the way you act. This is common in self confidence building therapies or courses where you are asked to act the part of or like a confident person. You soon develop that skill or behavior which results in the person having more confidence. There is increasing evidence that acting enraged, obsessed, malevolent, or depressed maybe bad for you. Actor Leonard DiCaprio developed obsessive-compulsive disorder while playing Howard Hughes in the block buster The Aviator. This often happens to actors who get "caught up" in the role they play or keep many of the same character traits of the role they played. Heath Ledger who played the Joker in the Batman movie died and was allegedly clinically depressed. If you act having an enraged or angry conversation with someone, you will usually find that your emotions do get engaged even though you are simply acting the part. When you are acting happy, you are thinking happy thoughts that go with the acting role you are playing, so it's like conditioning your mind to be happy. So try acting happy and you can also consider it "acting happy therapy".

Change your negative self talk to a positive self talk:

If your self talk is negative and you are always criticizing or putting yourself down, you should change this self talk to a more positive one. Try seeing errors and mistakes as a learning experience for example. Something that you can use to learn from and improve on. Many people consider life its self as a learning experience.

Visual and Auditory Brain Stimulation (positivity):

You can try listening to classical or new age music while watching your favorite scenic video or using the visualization function on your music player (windows media player, winamp, itunes).
Many studies indicate that classical music stimulates the brain in many positive ways, adding the visualization function of your player, with many different patterns and colors, can also stimulate your brain in positive ways.

Listen to calming or uplifting rhythmical music:

There are many positive effects from music and people also advocate that some types of music such as Mozart can also make you smarter by working different regions of the brain. You can also try singing one of your favorite positive and uplifting songs (similar to positive self talk and affirmations).

Get a dose of sun light and bright colors:

Light therapy is becoming more popular for seasonal depression. Light therapy can also strengthen your immune system.
Getting a dose of bright colors from watching a colorful movie or cartoons can also have positive effects on the brain.

Positive Visualization:

Many Professional athletes use positive visualization to practice a perfect performance or outcome in their minds. You can do the same or something similar. Visualize good performances, success, and positive outcomes instead of negative outcomes. Practice recalling positive images of your favorite scenic pictures, using your imagination to visualize a calm ocean and beach for example, positive memories, and positive events or actions such as helping friends or people and successful events such as graduations. How you see yourself, yourself image, is also important. Visualize yourself in a positive way, intelligent, caring, and brave for example, do not dwell on your flaws but improve them.

Use positive affirmations:

Using positive affirmations can change your thinking and subconscious. (similar to positive self talk)

Take steps to build self-esteem (set goals and help others):

Setting goals, taking action, accomplishments, success, and helping others, how you value yourself and self-worth, can be very rewarding and can help you build self-esteem.
When you complete a task or a major task your brain releases endorphins the happy and feel good hormone. You feel happy and your self-esteem usually also goes up too. When you complete a major task, reward yourself to enhance these feelings and to further condition this habit of setting and accomplishing goals.

Take Omega 3:

Omega 3's have beneficial effects on the brain and many research articles also claim that it can prevent or help with depression. They are good for the brain, the heart, prevent cancer, and help you lose weight.

Get enough or the required sleep and exercise:
When you are stressed and worried, anxiety, you can suffer from insomnia and insomnia is linked to depression. Sleep deprivation also increases the stress hormone, cortisol, in your body. A person who is sleep deprived brain can look like that of psychotic person's brain in an MRI scan. You can exercise to counteract the effects of stress (Stress Management). Exercise increases blood flow to your brain, counteracts the stress hormones, cortisol and adrenaline, and releases endorphins in your brain, the "feel good and happy hormones". The result is that you will be more calm, relaxed, and sleep better.

Take a hot bath with scented oils:

Taking a hot bath and adding scented oils, Aromatherapy, before bed time also relaxes you and your body and should help you sleep better.

Stay active and preoccupied:

Stay active by doing house cleaning for example. By staying preoccupied your brain has less time to dwell on dark or negative thoughts. You'll also feel organized and productive and get the positive effects of this feeling. Tidiness has also been know to reduce stress and improve psychological health.

Socialize and do not Isolate yourself:

Socializing is therapeutic, works the brain, and makes you smarter. It can also preoccupy you and keep you from dwelling on negative thoughts. The positivity of those you socialize with can also rub off on you. Try to participate in activities and social events that contain comedy and laughter.

Good nutrition is also very important:

A deficiency in minerals and electrolytes, such as calcium, magnesium, and potassium can affect the brain. Too much calcium in your body can also cause a deficiency in your body of magnesium.
The body uses electrolytes to help regulate nerve and muscle function and to maintain acid-base balance and fluid balance.

SUN BLASTER compact fluorescent full spectrum lighting
Similar to Light Therapy compact fluorescent full spectrum lighting in your garden or flower room may have health benefits or help prevent depression.

(Healthy Light -> Healthy People <- Healthy Plants)

"Grow flowers and herbs indoors year round! Most indoor lighting is yellow orange, the narrowest part of the light spectrum. Full spectrum lighting contains all colors of the rainbow and is balanced like natural daylight, making them excellent for indoor gardening where the suns natural light is not available. Full spectrum ensures proper development and maximum growth! It's all about the light!"


The Brain is Changed

If you take a brain image of an ordinary person with no signs of any psychological disorders and submit them to psychological harassment for a long period of time the brain image will probably be different and have increased or decreased levels of activity in area's of the brain that are associated to psychological disorders or disease.

Also, as indicated on the stress effects page, one of the effects of long periods of stress is that it kills brain cells.

amenclinics.com :

''In a similar way, sleep deprivation also decreases brain activity and limits access to learning, memory, and concentration. A recent brain imaging study showed that people who consistently slept less than 7 hours had overall less brain activity. Sleep problems are very common in people who struggle with their thoughts and emotions. Getting enough sleep everyday is essential to brain function.
Scientists have only recently discovered how stress negatively affects brain function. Stress hormones have been shown in animals to be directly toxic to memory centers. Brain cells can die with prolonged stress. Managing stress effectively is essential to good brain function.''

"Happy and hopeful thoughts had an overall calming effect on the brain, while negative thoughts inflamed brain areas often involved with depression and anxiety."

"You can train your thoughts to be positive and hopeful or you can just allow them to be negative and upset you. That's right, it's up to you! You can learn how to change your thoughts and optimize your brain."

"Stay away from substances known to be toxic or those that decrease brain activity."

Magic Mineral Lifts Your Mood

A chemical found in everyday foods may help atypical depression. Duke University scientists found that consuming chromium picolinate, a trace mineral naturally found in whole grains, mushrooms, liver and many other foods, has significant effects on individuals suffering from atypical depression.

Wow, what a great post. I suffered from fairly chronic but not debilitating depression all my life, cried frequently, honestly felt like it was just too horrible to be here much of the time, and just the last 10 years has that really changed. Mine was largely due to significant traumas, physical and emotional, in childhood, and those do have to be worked through to some extent, brought out of the closet so to speak, to take the charge out of them, at least it was that way for me. But almost everything you listed above is what I use in my basic self care and I pull out the stops whenever I begin to feel overwhelmed again by how things really are here on planet earth (I KNOW I've experienced something else). Absolutely great advice. For me, nature is the best healer of all.

spiritwind
5th August 2012, 11:32
As a side note, and hopefully not too off topic, but my daughter suffers from fairly severe anxiety (which is entirely different than depression) and she is still fairly young (just turned 18) and is planning to go to the doctor to talk with them about medication options. Even though I am big on diet she eats like crap (sorry, she really does). She has tried things like rescue remedy and says it doesn't work, but I sense some deeper issues (she lost her dad to cancer about 4 years ago after a 6 year battle). She can talk very intelligently when she goes to see therapists so they have never done anything but cost me money. I almost got her to try hypnotherapy but she chickened out and just wanted to talk when we went to her appointment so there went that idea. I'm apprehensive about what they are going to probably prescribe for her. Any words of wisdom on this from someone who knows would be greatly appreciated.

bogeyman
5th August 2012, 12:13
Nature is certainly a great healer, and we must understand we are apart of nature and need it for our well being. We live our lives in artifical environments, buildings too close together, great cities of noise and traffic, this creates problems, physically, emotionally and psychologically. I go into nature and it is a breath of fresh air!:thumb:. I did suffer as a result of childhood experiences, but in time and with the right help it changed my life. Healing (hands on as people sometime call it) did indeed help me, but it isnt for all people, find whats right for you.

Arrowwind
5th August 2012, 13:32
[QUOTE=blufire;524542]The Papimi is no longer legal in the US. Here is a doctor who uses the MRS2000 herself and in her clinic in Santa Fe, NM:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIXha-O14LA

the Papami machine has a known track record for curing cancer, and more effectively and easily than rife machines in general, so thats probably why its illegal in the USA. This MRS2000, is it a Rife machine? Do you have to select and dial in frequencies or are they general frequencies for everythng?

fathertedsmate
5th August 2012, 14:12
Depression = an acidic body that is mineral/oil/vit difficient, has parasites,pathogens,yeast,fungus,mould and viruses partying 24/7, electrical circuits are closed down, arteries,full of plaque,kidneys full of calcium, organs full of heavy metals, chemicals creating havoc with every thought,which will be negative,the bodys cells are depleted energy cannot flow,information cannot be recalled or retained, the body is on permenant send and its all negative, just a sample of my thought process which has reversed, depresion,anxiety,stress,tension,anger,constant fear,uncontrollable reactions,hypervigilance,paranoia,which was diagnosed and treatead as ptsd/combatt stress, along the way,tinnitus,athritis,asthma,hay fever,lower back pains,constant jaw biting and currently fibromyalgia all gone,evicted from the party in liquid and solid form over the last 18 months, with fibromyalgia (fungus on most ligament structure) being evicted as i write, depresion is like everything else a symptom of a machine running on contaminated or no fuel, why its contaminated is where the problem and solotions lie,
when i started out i had no intentions of acheiving any of the above,all i wanted to do was stop the anger the awful feelings that had been in controll for years,
first procedure used was to clean out chemicals/super/free radicals, used grapefruit/lemons/hempseed oil/garlic/root ginger and water, every 2nd day for 6 wks, apple juice morning/night,
this process took away tension,anxiety,a sty that had been present for 2 yrs, dissapeared,tinnitus in left ear dissapeared,glasses i required for 25yrs are of no use my eyesight is better, thousands of kidney stones removed
the question was why was i in this condition, what was the source, that turned out to be heavy metals, so now after 18 months removing them slowly whilst replacing magnesium daily using transdermal application, applying iodine, on foot regularly, drink baking soda/lemon/water evey few days,drink hempseed oil/lemon/water daily , dring milk kefir daily, walk every day ,
it aint going to happen by itself this is where the problem lies it needs to be done by self, and untill metals and chemicals are out one cannot see whats in front of ones face, now i just need to get rid of the ronnie wood look and mine can start living again, extreem hard work folks, can be achieved by all, need to look at things from a totally different angle, remember all information that is stored which is used to allow you to make sensible decicions, has been put there by someone else

Swan
5th August 2012, 15:13
I had completely forgotten about the a.c.vinegar regime. My Dad did this exact honey and cayenne pepper, easy-to-implement routine all through the '70-80's and just sort of forgot, too... .

Could you tell me more?

Do you mix a.c vinegar with honey and cayenne pepper?

nearing
5th August 2012, 19:25
I had completely forgotten about the a.c.vinegar regime. My Dad did this exact honey and cayenne pepper, easy-to-implement routine all through the '70-80's and just sort of forgot, too... He did live to 99 and passed a couple of years ago, healthy, content, with the most peaceful smile and rosy cheeks. I miss my Pa. He was a gentle man who was a pioneer of Holistics, especially Reflexology and worked hard to "legitimize" massage therapy in eras when it was deemed quackery.

What is that exact recipe?