Dalai Lama Supports 2045’s Avatar Project

[SilentFeathers]

Now this is one "strange" story!


Congress will gather world-leading scientists and public figures in 2013, in New York, to discuss how Avatar technologies can drive human evolution.

They discussed the three major steps of 2045 Avatar Project. First, the creation of a human-like robot dubbed “Avatar A,” and a state-of-the-art brain-computer interface system to link the mind with it. Next, it be created a life support system for the human brain, which connects to the “Avatar A,” turning into “Avatar B.” The third step, named “Avatar C”, is developing an artificial brain in which to transfer one’s individual consciousness with the goal of achieving cybernetic immortality.

http://www.prweb.com/releases/2012/4/prweb9456373.htm


If your thinking this may just be some more wild BS story, check this link out:

http://www.gf2045.com/

or watch this:

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Has any one else heard of this?

The Global Future 2045 Congress is a nonprofit organization with the goal of creating a network community with the world’s leading scientists in the field of life extension and to support them as an investment hub, contributing to various projects.

This initiative produced its first congress -- "Global Future 2045” -- on February 17-20 in Moscow.

The Congress objectives included:
- Presenting the newest developments in the fields of cognitive sciences, robotics, and modeling of living systems
- Evaluating the potential for transforming planetary civilization in light of the rapid pace of technological development
- Analyzing possible scenarios for the development of civilization in the context of new concepts regarding universal history, or “Big History”
- Discussing strategic problems arising in a dynamically changing world and the potential for the appearance of a global or cosmic mode of thinking.

Event speakers were comprised of world leading physicists, biologists, anthropologists, sociologists, psychologists, philosophers as well as specialists in the fields of Big History, robotics, brain-computer interfaces, neurosciences and space technology from Russia, the United States, Canada, the Netherlands and other countries.

The three-day event concluded with the finalization of a resolution that will be submitted to the United Nations demanding the implementation of committees to discuss life extension Avatar projects as a necessary tool in the preservation of humankind, as well as defining ethical parameters for scientists worldwide.

The next GF2045 International Congress will be held June 15 & 16 2013, in New York City.


Added: If true, this is really some heavy stuff and all I can say is WOW!

....and why is the Dalai Lama being so vocal and "infront" with something like this???? Hmmm?

[shadowstalker]

Could have seen a movie that promoted the same idea, just don't remember the name

[nearing]

This is bull****! Who in their righ kind could think any of this Transhumanity **** is of value and safe for humanity?

They will push his crap on me only if I am only already dead.

Effing Matix world brough to life.

[jackovesk]

Regardless of whether or not the story is True..?

Its (High Time) some of you 'Dalai Lama' devotees & supporters did some 'Homework' on...


Who he is..?
Why all of a sudden has his 'Name' been bandied across the Press of late through a PR Campaign Juggernaut..?
Why is he meeting and having his photo taken with the 'Who's Who of the Criminal Elite'..?


Just 'Bloody-Well' search for yourselves how the 'Dalai Lama' fits into the 'Elite's Big Picture' & Why of late he has become a 'Major Player'...:faint:

[write4change]

This is bull****! Who in their righ kind could think any of this Transhumanity **** is of value and safe for humanity?

They will push his crap on me only if I am only already dead.

Effing Matix world brough to life.

My sentiments exactly. I think there should be some kind of discussion about being pushed in this direction without knowledge or consent. I think stories serve a purpose and it appears to me that there are more stories about aliens regretting giving up their bodies than not.

I have had some other demensional experiences and while I dig them, I come back appreciating my body more. I like the option of getting out of it but I like the option of choosing to get back into it when I am done. I like zipping around the universe but I like being grounded and centered with the earth just as much. Having both options is the best of all worlds. Learning consciousness gives this to you. This is work. Zapping your mind in a mechanical body is trying to avoid doing the work which is why we are here now.

[jmj12]

Regardless of whether or not the story is True..?

Its (High Time) some of you 'Dalai Lama' devotees & supporters did some 'Homework' on...


Who he is..?
Why all of a sudden is he has been bandied across the Press of late through a PR Campaign Juggernaut..?
Why is he meeting and having his photo taken with the 'Who's Who of the Criminal Elite'..?


Just 'Bloody-Well' search for yourselves how the 'Dalai Lama' fits into the 'Elite's Big Picture' & Why of late he has become a 'Major Player'...:faint:

totally agree IMHO we have several clones of him in this theatre of fraudulence

[SilentFeathers]

Regardless of whether or not the story is True..?

Its (High Time) some of you 'Dalai Lama' devotees & supporters did some 'Homework' on...


Who he is..?
Why all of a sudden is he has been bandied across the Press of late through a PR Campaign Juggernaut..?
Why is he meeting and having his photo taken with the 'Who's Who of the Criminal Elite'..?


Just 'Bloody-Well' search for yourselves how the 'Dalai Lama' fits into the 'Elite's Big Picture' & Why of late he has become a 'Major Player'...:faint:

Totally agree, I was wondering who would be the 1st one to bring these points up :) Thanks......

[markpierre]

Humanity does not have a master plan of it's development. (It should know what it's meant to develop into? It doesn't have a clue!)
It seeks stability (well that's a little bit of a problem)
It lives in the present and does not plan. (that's a delusional comment. All it does is plan and watch it's plans corrupt in purpose, ignoring the 'present' entirely)

It's interesting. The determination to believe and pretend that we know our own best interest will always only ever look like how clever we are at making external things
to demonstrate evolution to us, and further isolate us from ourselves.
And distance ourselves ever further from reality as it is.

Lets make unreal bodies. That's a good idea.

[music]

Regardless of whether or not the story is True..?

Its (High Time) some of you 'Dalai Lama' devotees & supporters did some 'Homework' on...


Who he is..?
Why all of a sudden has his 'Name' been bandied across the Press of late through a PR Campaign Juggernaut..?
Why is he meeting and having his photo taken with the 'Who's Who of the Criminal Elite'..?


Just 'Bloody-Well' search for yourselves how the 'Dalai Lama' fits into the 'Elite's Big Picture' & Why of late he has become a 'Major Player'...:faint:

Indeed, I voiced my suspicions about the Dalai Lama in Tenzin's "Spiritual False Flag" thread earlier today. So looks like we may have a challenger to Scientology as to who will be the official NWO religion!

[gabbahh]

Transhumanist propaganda at its finest.
Mortals wanting to become gods.
Science trying to create super humans, sounds like eugenics.

It appears we learned nothing from WWII and the evil agenda is still active.
We truly appear to be at war with our Creator. That tree of knowledge of good and evil sure carries some bad apples.

[heyokah]

Regardless of whether or not the story is True..?

Its (High Time) some of you 'Dalai Lama' devotees & supporters did some 'Homework' on...


Who he is..?



Why all of a sudden is he has been bandied across the Press of late through a PR Campaign Juggernaut..?
Why is he meeting and having his photo taken with the 'Who's Who of the Criminal Elite'..?


Just 'Bloody-Well' search for yourselves how the 'Dalai Lama' fits into the 'Elite's Big Picture' & Why of late he has become a 'Major Player'...:faint:

totally agree IMHO we have several clones of him in this theatre of fraudulence


Could this sudden interest in the Dalai Lama of the elite have anything to do with the research on Buddhist Monks whose brains were scanned during meditation?

Zoran Josipovic, a research scientist and adjunct professor at New York University, says he has been peering into the brains of monks while they meditate in an attempt to understand how their brains reorganise themselves during the exercise.

Dr Josipovic, who also moonlights as a Buddhist monk, says he is hoping to find how some meditators achieve a state of "nonduality" or "oneness" with the world, a unifying consciousness between a person and their environment.

read more:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-12661646

[Mark]

The Dalai Lama's past, particularly with the Nazi's - as well as their spiritual alignment with Tibet and its people, Buddhism being the only religion formally endorsed during the 3rd Reich - is indeed troubling from an aspect of "good" and "evil" as we necessarily understand them being BEings of Duality.

The precepts of Buddhism would fit in quite well with Transhumanism, actually, as it fit in well with Nazism.

Enlightenment is beyond "good" and "evil"

It can occur to anyone who does the work or utilizes the machines and drugs to do it for them. Think of it.

Robert Morningsky has been declaring recently that the human body is unfit for space travel and that only by engaging in some sort of transhumanistic evolution, which this project points to directly, can humanity travel to the stars. A human brain or some sort of cyborg creature to fly the ships. An entity that is no longer what we might consider human.

But, considering how many times our species has been genetically engineered ...

... who is to really say what human is anyway?

[ulli]

The Dalai Lama's past, particularly with the Nazi's - as well as their spiritual alignment with Tibet and its people, Buddhism being the only religion formally endorsed during the 3rd Reich - is indeed troubling from an aspect of "good" and "evil" as we necessarily understand them being BEings of Duality.

The precepts of Buddhism would fit in quite well with Transhumanism, actually, as it fit in well with Nazism.

Enlightenment is beyond "good" and "evil"

It can occur to anyone who does the work or utilizes the machines and drugs to do it for them. Think of it.

Robert Morningsky has been declaring recently that the human body is unfit for space travel and that only by engaging in some sort of transhumanistic evolution, which this project points to directly, can humanity travel to the stars. A human brain or some sort of cyborg creature to fly the ships. An entity that is no longer what we might consider human.

But, considering how many times our species has been genetically engineered ...

... who is to really say what human is anyway?

To be human means human nature, which means flaws and warts.
To be human means free will, which means the freedom to take the wrong turn, or search for higher consciousness.

No matter how many geniuses out there think they can tamper with this basic fact,
they will fail, so that they can discover it was never about mental brilliance in the first place.
These efforts are doomed to fail.
Now, if they got together to discuss food production and simple health matters, to eradicate hunger,
homelessness and sickness, I would give it a thumbs-up.
It appears that the Dalai Lama has lost his way...became a lost soul.

[Fred Steeves]

Well, can't say I'm shocked that the Dalai Lama is involved in this, I've been noticing things not quite right with him for some time now. I know already that this is basically the elite's plan, and they are more than welcome to bore and hollow out what's left of their souls all they want. We'll see how that works out for you guys, best of luck.

As for me, living a good life, doing what I came to do, and dying a simple old man works just fine.

[Mark]

To be human means human nature, which means flaws and warts.
To be human means free will, which means the freedom to take the wrong turn, or search for higher consciousness.

No matter how many geniuses out there think they can tamper with this basic fact,
they will fail, so that they can discover it was never about mental brilliance in the first place.
These efforts are doomed to fail.
Now, if they got together to discuss food production and simple health matters, to eradicate hunger,
homelessness and sickness, I would give it a thumbs-up.
It appears that the Dalai Lama has lost his way...became a lost soul.

I agree, all of those things you mention, compassion, do define humanity as we understand it, but then that would mean, in the larger context, that perhaps many aliens are human too.

From the article:


The Dalai Lama also agreed that it is crucial to discuss the ethics behind these types of progressive technologies. “We should carry out these experiments with a full sense of responsibility and respect for life that will only benefit humanity, benefit others.”

He also made a statement about mind a little earlier that I find quite revealing:


“In the last few years, scientists now begin to show an interest about consciousness, as well as brain specialists, neuroscientists, who also begin to show interest about consciousness or mind. I feel that over the next decades modern science will become more complete,” said the Dalai Lama. “So up to now the matter side of science has been highly technical, highly advanced, but the mind side has not been adequate. This project, definitely, is helpful to get more knowledge.”

His specific mention of "the mind side" in reference to the "brain-computer interface system" that Avatar project will create, speaks to a certain philosophical tact that is prevalent in some forms of Buddhism. The creation of Avatar A, which is that interface system, leads to Avatar B, which is a robot hosting a human brain, then to Avatar C, which is a totally artificial brain within a robot/Avatar, apparently, which the Dalai Lama seems, according to this article, to support.


Creating the “Avatar C” through developing an artificial brain and understanding the nature of human consciousness, says the Dalai Lama, could be attainable, and would be a great benefit to future development of science.

It is my understanding that Buddhism does not proselytize the existence of a soul as many outside of Buddhism might define it. The "Atman" or Self might be the closest thing to it ...

[Finefeather]

My, My, How blind we all are today !
First thing on our minds is to think on the dark side.
Our minds are so indoctrinated with negative thoughts we cannot think without wanting to plant another seed of doom.
We can only conclude that if a holy man stands next to an unholy man, the holy man is been transformed into another dark force with one mission, to control us all, to mislead us into the pits of darkness.

Have you all forgotten sayings like:
“It is easy enough to be friendly to one's friends. But to befriend the one who regards himself as your enemy is the quintessence of true religion. The other is mere business.” ― Mahatma Gandhi
“Whenever you are confronted with an opponent. Conquer him with love.” ― Mahatma Gandhi

Have you all failed to understand the subtle remarks of the Dalai Lama in the linked article:
“In the last few years, scientists now begin to show an interest about consciousness, as well as brain specialists, neuroscientists, who also begin to show interest about consciousness or mind. I feel that over the next decades modern science will become more complete,” said the Dalai Lama. “So up to now the matter side of science has been highly technical, highly advanced, but the mind side has not been adequate. This project, definitely, is helpful to get more knowledge.”

Here he specifically points to the materialistic approach of current man, and the future of consciousness, and what could be the outcome that H.H might be hinting at?...other than the scientific discovery of the existence of the Soul and Higher Mind, the very thing that we here at Avalon are supposedly trying to reveal to the younger souls in the world, those who are desperately searching for truth.

Do you really believe that the forces of Light do not infiltrate the forces of darkness? Do you really believe that true spiritual wisdom is been overtaken by the little human mind?

Where are we exactly, if our only thoughts are in fact our fears?

[ulli]

Aliens who are incarnated on earth are human, I agree, and if they have memory of their former world they may well be super-human....but all others have experiences to do with the conditions of their own world.
It's a matter of how we define stuff.
John F. Kennedy called himself a Berliner....couldn't even pronounce the word properly.
Yet everyone knows a Berliner is also German, and Kennedy was more Irish American than German.

And the Dalai Lama is not all the love and light they make him out to be, and since I am allergic to people with hidden agendas anyone who is quoting Buddhist doctrine is just an indoctrinated person, and needs to read the Trimiondis articles and books about the shadow side of Tibetan Buddhism.
Or at least ask themselves why the MSM who we all agree to be the mouthpiece for the NWO is constantly presenting the Dalai Lama alongside with the Pope as the spiritual authority of this age. I don't want to upset anyone but some balloons do need popping once in a while.
Google Victor and Victoria Trimondi, or Kalachakra, or Buddhism and misogyny.

Anyway, here is one link already:
http://www.trimondi.de/SDLE/Part-1-01.htm

[Mark]

Hello, Finefeather. The point that my posts on this thread have been making is that for the Dalai Lama to come out for this project is not necessarily good or evil. It can be both. Or beyond, depending upon your perspective.

No matter what anyone believes or wants personally, Transhumanism is here. Good is here, Evil is here. They all have to be dealt with in the Now. The Dalai Lama is dealing with it. As he dealt with the Nazis.

He tends to go straight into the fire on some issues and confront people's basic ideas about good and evil and then look to what the benefit is in any situation.

To define him and the philosophy/spiritual system he stands for and lives is to limit him and it.

[Mark]

And the Dalai Lama is not all the love and light they make him out to be, and since I am allergic to people with hidden agendas anyone who is quoting Buddhist doctrine is just an indoctrinated person, and needs to read the Trimiondis articles and books about the shadow side of Tibetan Buddhism.
Or at least ask themselves why the MSM who we all agree to be the mouthpiece for the NWO is constantly presenting the Dalai Lama alongside with the Pope as the spiritual authority of this age. I don't want to upset anyone but some balloons do need popping once in a while.
Google Victor and Victoria Trimondi, or Kalachakra, or Buddhism and misogyny.

You make valid and strong points, Ulli. He certainly is not Love and Light.

[Agape]

Great find .. :thumb: Not to be overly sarcastic but if you care to open the Congress 'participants' page http://www.gf2045.com/persons/

can not resist to say the direction of the exploration is focused on dominant male brain and its activity and how to preserve it ..
because that's what they seem to be worried about after all .

I've had a small chat about this topic time ago , with friend who works in the neurofeedback research full speed and when it came to the 'artificial brain' creation I told him it sounds amusing as long as it's not your head on that table .

Some people think they'd make better life as 'thinking heads' that's it . It would cut some of the unnecessary living costs and expenses, daily traffic and other annoying problems with 'human body' .

I don't know ..perhaps this is how we're going to end up here, congress will be 12 big head in jars who will work 24/7 if required and last 1000 years each .


:haha:


But I'm afraid they'd not be happy that way . I'm afraid of further de-humanisation of humanity .


They're not able and willing to solve some much more acute human troubles, famine, uncontrolled outbreak of diseases, extreme poverty in many parts of world , screaming problems .
But they think an artificial brain will sort it out for them ?

I think it's cynical and frakensteinian idea in extreme .



H.H. Dalailama received so many honorary degrees in psychology and human sciences just because they invite him to lecture and they know he will speak for the humanitarian side of human experience and consciousness .

What appears to be popularised version of him in western media is just it, they can be all from friendly to sarcastic but none is really familiar with the way these people were brought up ,
their life and thinking 'back home' . They want his support just because it fills in a DOT for them,
and that's the tragedy . Names and meanings of Buddhist, Vedic, Christian and other teachings were misused for crimes on humanity too many times .

Similarly as the wrongly understood ideologies were used by Nazis to defend their 'spiritual stand' during WWII.
To this day, the 'new age' movement or 'new occultism' that still continues from Europe to the US bases some of its ideas on wrongly interpreted Hindu and Buddhist terms brought to Europe in 18th and 19th centuries by 'theosophists' such as Madam Blavatsky .

I really hate when some ignoramuses who had never taken the chance to explore personally Tibetan culture, Tibet and the Buddhist tradition that evolves for more than 2000 years throw in '' and did you know of H.H. Dalailama Nazi connection'' or variably '' CIA connection'' .


You tell me who of us here has no interest and no connection to these Projects , just for being aware of them , discussing them, taking part in research in one way or another .


All is interconnected , is the message maybe . If you think we can live in world isolated from everyones else's ideas , dissociate ourselves from what they do, it's not going to work .


Anyway, these are some very substantial questions .




:angel:

[Tarka the Duck]

You know, one of the problems with reading all these conspiracy-orientated sites is that people begin to believe anything that sounds as if it goes against mainstream thought...can't they see how open they are to manipulation?

How clever some on this thread think they are, and how they delight in bringing down those they perceive as being leaders of any kind.
How quick people are to condemn.
How speedily they rub their hands together, adopt a superior tone and say they always thought that was the case....Because believing that suits their personal agenda.

Has it ever occurred to these oh-so-wise beings that they are, quite simply, innocent victims of propaganda? That the reports they are so desperate to believe in and so quick to quote are nothing more than a very unsubtle attempt to sway and influence public opinion?

Makes you wonder...
...who would choose to believe without question in the hated-filled words of the evangelical Chris Rosetti of the ironically named New Spiritual Bible?
...why believe the likes of the Trimondi double act?
...are there some out there who actually believe the lies written by those in the pay of the 50 cents party?

The anti-imperialist propaganda machine that is the Chinese is a massive power. It is systematically attempting to control and influence information on the web. Don't underestimate its wish to discredit someone as influential and widely respected as the Dalai Lama.


As you continue to believe this garbage, the oppression and murder of the Tibetan people continues. What an effective smoke screen you've been engulfed by...

Funny...I suppose I would have hoped that the caring, aware people on this forum would have been happier putting their energy to supporting the Tibetan people in their fight for human rights and freedom from the oppression of the Chinese communist party? Do you not care that the Chinese authorities have introduced policies by which the unique culture, language and natural resources of Tibet are being systematically and irrevocably eroded?

Obviously not...

Wake up, people...you're falling straight into the trap....

Kathie

Reason for edit: I replaced the word "revere" as a member objected to it.

[The Arthen]

Looks like really bad news. Sigh.

[Spiral]

The biggest problem with transhumanism is its basic tenet that we are the brain in the head, the human being is so much more than this, we have many "brains", in the heart, the stomach, various ganglions & plexi, even the aura has a form of intelligence to it, to strip all that all they would have is the Ego by their way of measurement.

They would have nothing but automated wraiths.

As for Buddhism, we have been indoctrinated into thinking its some wonderful tranquil philosophy, all smiles and wise humility, not many know there is a very dark side to it, many adepts of the black lodge are red hat dugpas .

[ulli]

You know, one of the problems with reading all these conspiracy-orientated sites is that people begin to believe anything that sounds as if it goes against mainstream thought...can't they see how open they are to manipulation?

How clever some on this thread think they are, and how they delight in bringing down those they perceive as being leaders of any kind.
How quick people are to condemn.
How speedily they rub their hands together, adopt a superior tone and say they always thought that was the case....

Has it ever occurred to these oh-so-wise beings that they are, quite simply, innocent victims of propaganda? That the reports they are so desperate to believe in and so quick to quote are nothing more than a very unsubtle attempt to sway and influence public opinion?

Makes you wonder...
...who would choose to believe without question in the hated-filled words of the evangelical Chris Rosetti of the ironically named New Spiritual Bible?
...why revere the likes of the Trimondi double act?
...are there some out there who actually believe the lies written by those in the pay of the 50 cents party?

The anti-imperialist propaganda machine that is the Chinese is a massive power. It is systematically attempting to control and influence information on the web. Don't underestimate its wish to discredit someone as influential and widely respected as the Dalai Lama.

As you continue to believe this garbage, the oppression and murder of the Tibetan people continues. What an effective smoke screen you've been engulfed by.

Funny...I suppose I would have hoped that the caring, aware people on this forum would have been happier putting their energy to supporting the Tibetan people in their fight for human rights and freedom from the oppression of the Chinese communist party? Do you not care that the Chinese authorities have introduced policies by which the unique culture, language and natural resources of Tibet are being systematically and irrevocably eroded?

Obviously not...

Wake up, people...you're falling straight into the trap....

Kathie

There is an assumption here in your choice of the word "revere".
I do not "revere" the Trimondis. I consider myself a free being who investigates all religious history, even their various sects.
Only the founder I consider worthy of reverence, everything that comes later after his death is human interpretation and subject to error.
An all-male clergy arouses my suspicions especially if it is endorsed by Hollywood and the main stream media.

Oh, and sometimes I revere nature and the mysterious Hand of God whenever I detect a sign of It.
Kind of like a native American... or maybe a Gnostic.

[Tarka the Duck]

Thanks for the reply, Ulli.

If you prefer, I'll change the word "revere". It makes no difference to the main argument of my post. Perhaps you could now respond to that?

Kathie

[ulli]

Thanks for the reply, Ulli.

If you prefer, I'll change the word "revere". It makes no difference to the main argument of my post. Perhaps you could now respond to that?

Kathie

It's up to you. Whatever you do is fine.
I have made my statement, and have nothing further to add, for the time being.

[Mark]

The anti-imperialist propaganda machine that is the Chinese is a massive power. It is systematically attempting to control and influence information on the web. Don't underestimate its wish to discredit someone as influential and widely respected as the Dalai Lama.

This is indeed something to take in consideration in general.

As far as the topic of this thread goes, it is not necessarily so that the Dalai Lama's endorsement of this Transhumanist initiative is a negative. It can also be taken as a positive, depending upon perspective. It seems to me that what he has stated specifically in the interview is that he believes that the creation of an artificial brain/cyborg type entity will help humanity in the long-run. And that he welcomes further scientific exploration of the brain and its capacities. For those who are fans of Transhumanistic science, that is a positive. If you are not a fan of Transhumanistic science, it is a negative.


Wake up, people...you're falling straight into the trap....

I take it this means that you believe the article is fake? And that the Dalai Lama would never endorse such an initiative?

[Agape]

And the Dalai Lama is not all the love and light they make him out to be, and since I am allergic to people with hidden agendas anyone who is quoting Buddhist doctrine is just an indoctrinated person, and needs to read the Trimiondis articles and books about the shadow side of Tibetan Buddhism.
Or at least ask themselves why the MSM who we all agree to be the mouthpiece for the NWO is constantly presenting the Dalai Lama alongside with the Pope as the spiritual authority of this age. I don't want to upset anyone but some balloons do need popping once in a while.
Google Victor and Victoria Trimondi, or Kalachakra, or Buddhism and misogyny.

Anyway, here is one link already:
http://www.trimondi.de/SDLE/Part-1-01.htm




It's about what happens with 'right-brain teachings- holistic doctrine based on gnosticism and consciousness ' the moment you apply 'left-brain - western approach of freudian analysis ' to them .

In sense it's very primitive because the polarisation occurs in each individual brain and we all carry both polarities and I've studied with traditional teachers in traditional environment .. for so many years ..
and I know my 'western brain analysis ' and it's dominance can suppress the subtle , intuitive and more conscious intelligence in me in just about a second .


Typically , our 'western -rational ' brain is analytical, dominant, surgical , critical .



If you use 'Freudian psychoanalysis' on ancient and not well understood systems like Kalachakra or Mahamaya,
you will get simple anal comics . That's what Freud is about, not what Kalachakra is about .


There's sort of primitivism in our 'civilised' western cultures baring people from communication with their -Higher Self- .



:hug:

[Tarka the Duck]

Wake up, people...you're falling straight into the trap....

I take it this means that you believe the article is fake? And that the Dalai Lama would never endorse such an initiative?

Hello Rahkyt

No, I'm not saying that. I don't have the evidence to make any of those statements. I have written to the Office of Tibet in London expressing my concerns about the apparent support of the Dalai Lama for this project: I'll let you know the response when I get one.

I am issuing a general warning (sorry, that sounds arrogant! :rolleyes:) to all the people on this thread who have leapt in with gusto to badmouth this man.
All I wish to say is beware of the many, many disinformation sites out there.

Kathie

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It's up to you. Whatever you do is fine.
I have made my statement, and have nothing further to add, for the time being.

Do you have any thoughts about the importance of being open to the possibility of indoctrination by propaganda?

[ulli]

And the Dalai Lama is not all the love and light they make him out to be, and since I am allergic to people with hidden agendas anyone who is quoting Buddhist doctrine is just an indoctrinated person, and needs to read the Trimiondis articles and books about the shadow side of Tibetan Buddhism.
Or at least ask themselves why the MSM who we all agree to be the mouthpiece for the NWO is constantly presenting the Dalai Lama alongside with the Pope as the spiritual authority of this age. I don't want to upset anyone but some balloons do need popping once in a while.
Google Victor and Victoria Trimondi, or Kalachakra, or Buddhism and misogyny.

Anyway, here is one link already:
http://www.trimondi.de/SDLE/Part-1-01.htm




It's about what happens with 'right-brain teachings- holistic doctrine based on gnosticism and consciousness ' the moment you apply 'left-brain - western approach of freudian analysis ' to them .

In sense it's very primitive because the polarisation occurs in each individual brain and we all carry both polarities and I've studied with traditional teachers in traditional environment .. for so many years ..
and I know my 'western brain analysis ' and it's dominance can suppress the subtle , intuitive and more conscious intelligence in me in just about a second .


Typically , our 'western -rational ' brain is analytical, dominant, surgical , critical .



If you use 'Freudian psychoanalysis' on ancient and not well understood systems like Kalachakra or Mahamaya,
you will get simple anal comics . That's what Freud is about, not what Kalachakra is about .


There's sort of primitivism in our 'civilised' western cultures baring people from communication with their -Higher Self- .



:hug:

Glad you brought up the brain hemisphere thing... I do believe higher consciousness arrives the moment both hemispheres are balanced. The faster one can switch from left to right and back again, the closer one can come to such an event happening. The effect is like meditation, only a different approach. I have done both so I can testify to the effect being similar. As they say, many roads lead to Rome.

Apparently dancers have the highest rate of brain hemisphere switches, as they have to use judgement of physical space as well as allowing their artistic expression to flow, which mean both sides of the brain need to be used at their optimum.

My work has always been about integrating opposites, now more into reconciling science and religion, but also jewelry design, fashion design, construction, astrology...all are right and left brain activities combined.

[Fred Steeves]

I am issuing a general warning (sorry, that sounds arrogant! :rolleyes:) to all the people on this thread who have leapt in with gusto to badmouth this man.



Hi Kathie, speaking just for myself, I had no intent of "badmouthing" the Dalai Lama. I see him, and not just in this instance, going down his chosen path in this life. That path is nowhere near my path, so I choose not to take in too much of what the man has to say. Pointing out that his path is not my path is not badmouthing him. If it is, then we all are going to have a tough time discussing these matters.

Do I think he's evil? Absolutely not. Do I think he's atleast lost himself a bit? Yes.

Cheers,
Fred

[jackovesk]

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[Tony]

............?.............! ..............!............? ..................? I know nothing...!


s6EaoPMANQM

[meeradas]

Some people think they'd make better life as 'thinking heads' that's it . It would cut some of the unnecessary living costs and expenses, daily traffic and other annoying problems with 'human body' .

HvYm68dOQ4k

:biggrin1:

Btw, that bs2045 channel holds a couple more 'pearls', e.g. this one (http://youtu.be/Df9TniopFJc).

[Spiral]

My wife & I have been going through this & have come to some very disturbing conclusions.

First I need to explain that the "powers" are a duality, these primerally at the Occult level constitute the White & Black Lodges respectively.

These lodges do not pertain exclusively to any group, creed or race, they are universal in nature.

The White Lodge operate under the laws of God / Source, are selfless & do not seek dominion over others.

The Black Lodge seeks to circumvent Gods laws to gain power, wealth, & dominion for its self, is utterly amoral, the ultimate goal of its adherents is immortality & freedom from gods Law.

There are various practices used by these entities ,to these ends, of an occult nature that I won't go into here.

However as the human body is ultimately a creation of God, it is subject to Gods Laws, which can only be bent so far.

As I'm sure you all know we are rapidly approaching a point of some significance, at this point the practices of these people will be their undoing.

It is for this reason that they want to create bodies for themselves, bodies under their law, specially developed to serve their ends, and to escape the fate that awaits them.

This is very disturbing reading; http://www.carboncopies.org/home

[9eagle9]

We've lost our life rights; this trends towards taking away the privilege of death as well.



This is bull****! Who in their righ kind could think any of this Transhumanity **** is of value and safe for humanity?

They will push his crap on me only if I am only already dead.

Effing Matix world brough to life.

[WhiteFeather]

This is bull****! Who in their righ kind could think any of this Transhumanity **** is of value and safe for humanity?

They will push this crap on me only if I am only already dead.

Effing Matix world brough to life.

That just about sums it up for me as well Nearing.

Hey did Bill Gates have his hands in on this one too?

And what is the motive here? Mmmmm my spidey senses are starting to tingle again!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Kek3GqbsTk

[Maia Gabrial]

Regardless of whether or not the story is True..?

Its (High Time) some of you 'Dalai Lama' devotees & supporters did some 'Homework' on...
•Who he is..?
•Why all of a sudden has his 'Name' been bandied across the Press of late through a PR Campaign Juggernaut..?
•Why is he meeting and having his photo taken with the 'Who's Who of the Criminal Elite'..?

Just 'Bloody-Well' search for yourselves how the 'Dalai Lama' fits into the 'Elite's Big Picture' & Why of late he has become a 'Major Player'...

The Dalai Lama is a religious figure and as we all know, religion IS a source of mind control. His followers would probably follow him blindly with this nonsense.
Several years ago, I looked at a close up photo of the Dalai Lama and I didn't see a holy man there.The impressions that came to me was dishonesty.... It was in his eyes...

As for the transhumanistic garbage they want to pawn on us, I don't see anyone being ASKED if they want this sh*t! These criminals just don't seem to think they need anyone's permission for anything. That's their biggest offense. Why in hell, do they think becoming a machine is the answer to our problems....?! Anyone with half a brain could see that it's not. But what no one is seeing is that "the agenda" is to ruin our humanity and plunder our world while the human traitor collaborators benefit from it all. They're all sh*t IMO....

Just in case these people decide to do the right thing and ask, I will say that I like being the perfect human that I AM already. Respect my sovereignty or suffer the consequences....!
The Dalai Lama will have much to answer for if he's part of "the agenda"....

[Maia Gabrial]

We've lost our life rights; this trends towards taking away the privilege of death as well.

9eagle9, they want us to believe and accept that our life is not ours or that our rights are nothing. They're the ones fooling themselves. I stopped repeating their garbage about this. If enough of us say that there are no rights taken away, it'll force them to accept our sovereignties. People must realize that we have alot of power and THAT'S what they want to take away. I'm saying HELL NO! Our rights will always be intact! That should be the way people should think. It will reinforce OUR powers....

Everything is OUR choice. The creeps seemed to be ignoring this and need a HARD lesson regarding this. I'm not sure if this'll work, but I have a boot I'd love to put up their *ssess where their brains seem to be....

[WhiteFeather]

The Dali Lama is acting a little strange of late it seems. Has he been cloned or MK Ultra'd perhaps? Just a thought, just a thought.

[Agape]

Glad you brought up the brain hemisphere thing... I do believe higher consciousness arrives the moment both hemispheres are balanced. The faster one can switch from left to right and back again, the closer one can come to such an event happening. The effect is like meditation, only a different approach. I have done both so I can testify to the effect being similar. As they say, many roads lead to Rome.

Apparently dancers have the highest rate of brain hemisphere switches, as they have to use judgement of physical space as well as allowing their artistic expression to flow, which mean both sides of the brain need to be used at their optimum.

My work has always been about integrating opposites, now more into reconciling science and religion, but also jewelry design, fashion design, construction, astrology...all are right and left brain activities combined.




It's what they are trying to find out , so far there's a vast and open field we could name 'non specific functions of the brain ' .

I think it's 'sort of' workable with carefully designed synchronicity programs imprints .

Higher the intelligence higher the consciousness but it's all but Light and Love , if you don't 'love it' you know it feels hurt .

Somehow we need to learn to love even those unloved parts in ourselves to heal them and give them meaning .
That way , everyone is in us and we're in everybody which is a meaning of the Great Mandala ..

all is interconnected .


I believe quite few of us here n there were 'thus' imprinted , and it's how we know there are dimensions beyond human .
Maybe the dimension does not look the same to you as it does to me ...but I see a pure dimension of beings who are like us

but live perfect life in transparent world full of subtle colours and complex patterns .


Is this where from some of our inspirations come from ?



Humans , again, seem to want another -deus-ex-machina- .

What's more important to me is that there is Peace



:alien: :luv:

[Tarka the Duck]

Several years ago, I looked at a close up photo of the Dalai Lama and I didn't see a holy man there.The impressions that came to me was dishonesty.... It was in his eyes...



Interesting...I too looked into his eyes - close up and in person - and found honesty there. Funny, eh? Maybe that says more about you and me....
Not sure if it says anything at all about him...;)

[Spiral]

Several years ago, I looked at a close up photo of the Dalai Lama and I didn't see a holy man there.The impressions that came to me was dishonesty.... It was in his eyes...



Interesting...I too looked into his eyes - close up and in person - and found honesty there. Funny, eh? Maybe that says more about you and me....
Not sure if it says anything at all about him...;)

A leader can't lead if he/she doesn't believe what they are expounding, however this doesn't mean they are right, look at tony Bliar.....

[Tarka the Duck]

A leader can't lead if he/she doesn't believe what they are expounding, however this doesn't mean they are right, look at tony Bliar.....

Sorry, Spiral - can't catch your drift here :o Please could you elaborate?
Kathie

[SilentFeathers]

I doubt "Mr. Lama" is the only religious figure involved as a "spiritual adviser" so to speak in this project.....the dude does get around though and is a part of much more than just this....

He seems to have a hand or two in many cookie jars around the world and I've been waiting for him to start endorsing political candidates, but I guess too many people would be a bit suspicious of him if he drew too much attention to himself doing such a thing! lol!

He may have no "dark" agenda but is just a curious critter who gets around and sometimes gets put in these situations just because of what he represents.......he probably finds these things quite interesting to say the least.

Personally I feel there are many strange things about this dude....and many unanswered questions.......but that doesn't make him an alien or double agent :)

[Tarka the Duck]

I doubt "Mr. Lama" is the only religious figure involved as a "spiritual adviser" so to speak in this project.....the dude does get around though and is a part of much more than just this....

He seems to have a hand or two in many cookie jars around the world and I've been waiting for him to start endorsing political candidates, but I guess too many people would be a bit suspicious of him if he drew too much attention to himself doing such a thing! lol!

He may have no "dark" agenda but is just a curious critter who gets around and sometimes gets put in these situations just because of what he represents.......he probably finds these things quite interesting to say the least.

Personally I feel there are many strange things about this dude....and many unanswered questions.......but that doesn't make him an alien or double agent :)

Yep, I have to partially agree with this sentiment. I have absolutely no idea why he appears to be condoning this "research", which is why I have contacted the Office of Tibet to see if I can get any clarification.

The Dalai Lama is well known as a person who is fascinated by science, and in particular, neuroscience, as shown by his involvement in the Mind Life programme.

[Dorjezigzag]

The first time I met the Dalai Lama was in the early nineties when I was living in the adjacent village to Dharamsala where the Dalai Lama lives. It is not often reported but there is not the most harmonious relationship between many of the native Indian population and the Tibetan refugee population in Dharamsala. This all came to a head and while I was there a full scale riot broke out and many of the native Indian population went around trashing the Tibetan businesses and even attacking the monasteries and monks, martial law was imposed by the Indian authorities and no one could enter or leave the area for quite some time.

I think before people attack the Dalai Lama they need to do their research, he was still a boy when China invaded his country and he had to do many of the negotiations at this tender age, later he had to flee the country under advice from the oracle. His stay in India has never been the easiest so he has constantly had to be in dialogue and negotiation.
He knows the importance of dialogue, as someone who aspires to non violence he knows that the way to have influence is to discuss. If he just pointed the finger and said this project is evil then he may no longer have any influence over the potential dangers of this project, of course he is going to accept the oportunity to have some input into its ethical direction.

If anyone really researched the Dalai Lama they will be aware of his constant critique of technology and western values

But some aspects of this technology cannot be written off, as the dalai Lama is aware. I know one of the pioneers of robotic surgery whereby a top surgeon can perform a operation in another location be it country or continent without actually being there. This already exists and it can be life saving as there are certain procedures that only a few surgeons are actually capable.

Here are a few Dalai Lama quotes to help people better understand where he is coming from, I would sum it up as ‘ you keep your friends close but your enemies closer’


“To be aware of a single shortcoming within oneself is more useful than to be aware of a thousand in somebody else. Rather than speaking badly about people and in ways that will produce friction and unrest in their lives, we should practice a purer perception of them, and when we speak of others, speak of their good qualities.”

“Human use, population, and technology have reached that certain stage where mother Earth no longer accepts our presence with silence.”

“Human happiness and human satisfaction must ultimately come from within oneself. It is wrong to expect some final satisfaction to come from money or from a computer.

“In the present circumstances, no one can afford to assume that someone else will solve their problems. Every individual has a responsibility to help guide our global family in the right direction. Good wishes are not sufficient; we must become actively engaged.”

[Anchor]

Everything is OUR choice.

YES

That is it and the important thing to remember.

We can choose - and we can choose to push technology as far as it will go if we want to do that.

Or we can choose to spend time nurturing live in the garden ;)

[eni-al]

I don't think their pushing it on people have it done to them.

I like science anyway, so am interested and have always imagine we'd seen the linking of human to machine in ways never done before, already being done with artificial limbs. I'd actually love to hook to hook up to a computer if it could create a virtual world, so basically the ultimate VR for games, I think there was mention somewhere that that is exactly one of the biggest likely uses, for entertainment. Don't know about the rest, I imagine most people will want to retain humanity.
Puhalo Lazar, apparently also supports it, another religious figure.

[Tony]

To understand His Holiness the Dalai Lama, you have to understand the Tibetan Buddhist mindset.
He is the head of state and spiritual leader of the Tibetan people. His mindset is one of absolute compassion and untainted. He will see people and situations differently to common understandings.

When dealing with others, low or high, he will deal with it in the simplest way, always looking to the good. He will not see the bad, though it may be noted. He will have to tread a very fine line when dealing with other heads of state. As with all of us, he has to rely on the good will of others, so much skill is needed, when in fact his people are being tortured physically and mentally.

If you listen to him, he will sound like a very simple monk. At no time will he find fault with others, though he may point out an inaccuracy to his students. He will be very, very, very mindful of other's karma, to not create any situations where another's karma will be effected.

You must be very careful how you judge others, tread very carefully. Forums whip themselves up into a righteous frenzy. I am not condemning it as it is the way of things, but be very careful of losing your inner peace.

In modern terms, keep to the highest vibration, do not allow your own mind to be contaminated with hatred. This is the time to love, as you have never loved before.

You always have a choice.

All the best to us,
Tony

PS... I know spiritual leaders, who are only concerned with spiritual matters, can find themselves in situation which they are asked to support, which on the surface seems a good idea, like climate change. They have no wish deny a seemingly good cause, but may not have all the facts. Our job is to educated them. I know mine is! This is very hard work, precisely because the alternative media make hysterical claims and over react.

[Tony]

Just another thought.
"Be careful you do not torment your own mind."

[Tony]

If you think you have problems with his Holiness the Dalai Lama, well, he will retire soon and his place will be taken by his Holiness the 17th Karmapa. And guess what...there are two of him! One the Tibetan chose, and other chosen by the Chinese...interesting! I used to be confused about this, when I was picture of him as he grew up I thought, “Crickey he's changed...?”


Easily confused,
Tony

[Maia Gabrial]

YES

That is it and the important thing to remember.

We can choose - and we can choose to push technology as far as it will go if we want to do that.

Or we can choose to spend time nurturing live in the garden

I don't have a problem with pushing technologies as far as they go, but not when it's pushed on people without their knowledge and permission. You can bet that at some point these muddas will force things on people some way....


Interesting...I too looked into his eyes - close up and in person - and found honesty there. Funny, eh? Maybe that says more about you and me....

Tarka, sounds to me like you're a dalai lama follower, so you're going to defend him even when he's wrong. Understand that I trust my instincts more than I trust anyone else's or their opinions. For some reason I can pick up impressions about people without trying. I saw DISHONESTY in his eyes. No telling what I'd see in them face to face. For all we know, the moment that was captured in the photo was his public mask. Who knows what he's like out of the lime light.... Not all holy men are holy. There are plenty of examples of that....

[Tarka the Duck]

“Take care of your Thoughts because they become Words.
Take care of your Words because they will become Actions.
Take care of your Actions because they will become Habits.
Take care of your Habits because they will form your Character.
Take care of your Character because it will form your Destiny,
and your Destiny will be your Life"

[Mark]

You must be very careful how you judge others, tread very carefully.

This is oh so very true Tony.

[Tarka the Duck]

If you think you have problems with his Holiness the Dalai Lama, well, he will retire soon and his place will be taken by his Holiness the 17th Karmapa. And guess what...there are two of him! One the Tibetan chose, and other chosen by the Chinese...interesting! I used to be confused about this, when I was picture of him as he grew up I thought, “Crickey he's changed...?”


Easily confused,
Tony

What about the Panchen lama? He has not been seen for 17 years now, after "disappearing"...

Tha Panchen lama is the highest ranking Lama after the Dalai Lama in the Gelugpa tradition of Tibetan Buddhism.
The People's Republic of China asserts that the true Panchen lama is Gyancain Norbu, while the 14th Dalai Lama asserted it was Gedhun Choekyi Nyima on May 14, 1995. The latter vanished from public eye shortly after being named, aged six.

Chinese authorities stated that Gedhun has been taken into "protective custody" from those that would spirit him into exile and is now safe. Tibetans and human rights groups throughout the world continue to campaign for his release.

Do not doubt the lengths the Chinese Communist Party will go to to control and ultimately annihilate Tibet, her people and their cultural and spiritual heritage.

www.freepanchenlama.org

[music]

And the Dalai Lama is not all the love and light they make him out to be, and since I am allergic to people with hidden agendas anyone who is quoting Buddhist doctrine is just an indoctrinated person, and needs to read the Trimiondis articles and books about the shadow side of Tibetan Buddhism.
Or at least ask themselves why the MSM who we all agree to be the mouthpiece for the NWO is constantly presenting the Dalai Lama alongside with the Pope as the spiritual authority of this age. I don't want to upset anyone but some balloons do need popping once in a while.
Google Victor and Victoria Trimondi, or Kalachakra, or Buddhism and misogyny.

Anyway, here is one link already:
http://www.trimondi.de/SDLE/Part-1-01.htm




It's about what happens with 'right-brain teachings- holistic doctrine based on gnosticism and consciousness ' the moment you apply 'left-brain - western approach of freudian analysis ' to them .

In sense it's very primitive because the polarisation occurs in each individual brain and we all carry both polarities and I've studied with traditional teachers in traditional environment .. for so many years ..
and I know my 'western brain analysis ' and it's dominance can suppress the subtle , intuitive and more conscious intelligence in me in just about a second .


Typically , our 'western -rational ' brain is analytical, dominant, surgical , critical .



If you use 'Freudian psychoanalysis' on ancient and not well understood systems like Kalachakra or Mahamaya,
you will get simple anal comics . That's what Freud is about, not what Kalachakra is about .


There's sort of primitivism in our 'civilised' western cultures baring people from communication with their -Higher Self- .



:hug:

Glad you brought up the brain hemisphere thing... I do believe higher consciousness arrives the moment both hemispheres are balanced. The faster one can switch from left to right and back again, the closer one can come to such an event happening. The effect is like meditation, only a different approach. I have done both so I can testify to the effect being similar. As they say, many roads lead to Rome.

Apparently dancers have the highest rate of brain hemisphere switches, as they have to use judgement of physical space as well as allowing their artistic expression to flow, which mean both sides of the brain need to be used at their optimum.

My work has always been about integrating opposites, now more into reconciling science and religion, but also jewelry design, fashion design, construction, astrology...all are right and left brain activities combined.

Thanks ulli, it is ALL about the (re)unification of the poles. Developing linkages in the corpus collosom so that left and right hemispheres of the brain are united is essential. There are some good techniques for those of us who can't dance :) Imagining the letters of the alphabet rising in one hemisphere and setting in the other, then vice versa is good. Then visualise numbers doing likewise, then the alphabet and numbers backwards, and then the rising and setting of the moon and the sun. As we become more aware, we notice less assymetry in the face, especially the eyes. Wildly different left and right eyes are a sign of internal disconnection, and one eye will show our true inner nature, while the other shows the mask by which we attempt to navigate through the world with minimal pain. Extreme differences in eyes are evidence of personality destruction and reconstruction, think of Manson and the James Holmes. Informed readers may also wish to look at images of Inelia Benz with this in mind.

Hemispherical union is merely a first step though. Our goal is to unite the masculine and the feminine within our hearts. Union is truth and Love. Try taking masculine energy through the crown, and feminine energy through the root. Combine these within the heart. The lower chakras are analogues of the 3 physical dimensions, the throat is the gateway to higher dimensionality, and the other two higher chakras are analogues of "as above". The heart is the place where the lower and higher dimensions meet within the body, this is where union takes place. and that is without even getting into the high heart, nasal or any of the transpersonal chakras! Chakras are best worked in tandem, look for colours that are opposites on the colour wheel - these are the power pairs e.g. sacral and throat (orange and blue). Sacral and throat are probably the two most important chakras in the "ascension" process, for without proper functionality of these two, we can only fool ourselves with ersatz (ego-based) awareness. Another way of saying this is that without these two chakras working we can not truley connect with higher consciousness. That is why these are the two chakras that are most under attack in todays world. Well, the pineal is equally under attack mainly through fluoridation, but the sex/psychology/magic/unconsciousness/fear foundation of the sacral chakra is the prime target.

[music]

We should all allow for the possibility that we are victims of propaganda, and it is by re-examining those things we hold as most sacrosanct that we achieve the most growth.

Remember also that the acts of humans in the great spiritual traditions does not have any effect on the value of the teachings contained therein. Another way of saying this is that religions were a really great idea, but then human beings got involved and it all went downhill pretty quickly after that!

[Maia Gabrial]

I don't believe the dalai lama is any holier than anyone else. Or wiser. Anyone who calls him "his holiness" has just placed themselves lower than him. That's a judgment against themself. I'm of the belief that we're ALL equal in the eyes of the Divine Creator. The dalai lama is a man on his journey just as the rest of us are. No more. No less. At one time, I would have been in awe of someone like him because I actually believed they were higher somehow. Take how some aliens want us to believe they're gods...
If this sounds hateful to you, then maybe you don't understand hate....

IMO a spiritual leader should NOT be endorsing anything that is against our humanity as Transhumanism teaches. Is there anything wrong with what we are now? Don't we have the perfect bodies we were created with or not? Do we REALLY need machines attached to our bodies and minds? What is so great about that anyway? Will that REALLY make us something better? IMO that perverts our divine design. I believe we already are something better. The universe thinks so. Why can't some of us?

Why is there such a campaign to take away all those things that make us unique human beings? Our emotions, feelings and yes, our judgements are what we have that helps us in our creative process. THESE are what make us unique in this whole cosmos. All those ET's out there who have bred emotions out of their races are finally seeing their mistakes. Ask yourselves WHY are we allowing this to happen to us? Whose agenda does that serve?

We exist in the arena of life where it's impossible NOT to feel or judge. It's a Universe of Duality. When you eat something and like what you taste, you have made a judgement. What the hell is wrong with expressing what you're experiencing? Or how you feel about someone? All these emotions and feelings and judgements are allowed by the Divine Creator of all that is. IMO when you deny these things for yourself, then it's a limitation you've made for yourself. If you think that it's wrong to feel or say what's on your mind, that's great for YOU. I'm of the belief that none of those limitations matter in the long run. I don't think karma is all that either, just another control mechanism that's designed for OUR compliance. But then, we'll all see the truth of that when we transition....won't we?

I have discovered that once you lose the physical body, all those emotions, feelings and judgments become memories....

[The One]

And remember

Treating people with respect makes your world a nicer place to live in, whether it's at home, on a forum, or out in your community. And it's easy all you have to do is treat people the way you like to have them treat you.

We live in a diverse world made up of many different cultures, languages, races, and backgrounds. That kind of variety can make all our lives a lot more fun and interesting, but only if we get along with each other. And to do that we have to respect each other.

It does not matter if you are a teacher of this or that we all have different beleifs there is no one member on here who is better than the other

Together we all make a difference.

Malcolm

[Maia Gabrial]

I wish more people would reject religious programming and go on a real spiritual journey.

[Mark]

As we become more aware, we notice less assymetry in the face, especially the eyes. Wildly different left and right eyes are a sign of internal disconnection, and one eye will show our true inner nature, while the other shows the mask by which we attempt to navigate through the world with minimal pain. Extreme differences in eyes are evidence of personality destruction and reconstruction, think of Manson and the James Holmes.

This puts me in mind of a LOT of actors and politicians and leaders out there that are on the television and big screen.

[Feren]

All I can think is: "We have to stop war. Everywhere. We have to stop the global capitalist consumerist system. Now. God, we really need to do it soon".
I can't see a way yet.

[Tarka the Duck]

As I mentioned earlier in this thread, I contacted several Office of Tibet to enquire about this apparent endorsement. I've had this reply from Thubten who works at the Office of Tibet in London. I'll call in a couple of weeks to see if anything else has come to light.

Kathie

From: officeoftibet.ca


My apology for the delayed response. I also did some google search and found more information. It is difficult for me to say exactly if His Holiness endorsed this research work, but it seems at least that they definitely met. Right now, His Holiness is in Ladakh area and doing a retreat and it is difficult for me to reach his party. I would like to find out little more about this myself on his return.

I have learnt over the years that many many people meet with him for a 2 minute chat and try in many ways to get his endorsement and some times even a "very interesting" is interpreted and then reported as his endorsement when he was merely being polite. We have to be very careful in what we believe.

I am not sure if you are going to hear back from my other colleagues you contacted at the other offices since we are all very understaffed and each one of us handle between 12 to 20 countries and it is almost impossible to respond to every emails and letter! Your email caught my attention and I would love an answer to this myself. Perhaps you can call when you return from your holiday?

Best,

Thubten

[Tarka the Duck]

@ music


As we become more aware, we notice less assymetry in the face, especially the eyes. Wildly different left and right eyes are a sign of internal disconnection, and one eye will show our true inner nature, while the other shows the mask by which we attempt to navigate through the world with minimal pain.


Oooo er...uncomfortable flashback to the 16th century:eek: when any kind of skin blemish or physical deformity was said to have been the devil's mark and sufficient evidence to put someone on trial as a witch...

We all have assymetical faces don't we? Some more than others - never heard about this outer asymmetry being "corrected" through inner work! Some (not all of course) of those held up to be an example of great classical beauty (models, actresses) often have very symmetrical faces :confused:

[Tony]

His Holiness the Dalai Lama cares for millions of people and teaches non-stop about compassion. He understands, and does more than I could ever hope to do. We all have different functions and capacities in each lifetime.

Admiration is inspiration...it's good to be happy and to know who you are.

Tony

[music]

@ music


As we become more aware, we notice less assymetry in the face, especially the eyes. Wildly different left and right eyes are a sign of internal disconnection, and one eye will show our true inner nature, while the other shows the mask by which we attempt to navigate through the world with minimal pain.


Oooo er...uncomfortable flashback to the 16th century:eek: when any kind of skin blemish or physical deformity was said to have been the devil's mark and sufficient evidence to put someone on trial as a witch...

We all have assymetical faces don't we? Some more than others - never heard about this outer asymmetry being "corrected" through inner work! Some (not all of course) of those held up to be an example of great classical beauty (models, actresses) often have very symmetrical faces :confused:

Haha, I can see how you might see that. Yes, our faces are assymetrical, but I probably didn't make it clear that I was really talking about the eyes especially. We habitually relate to each other "mask" eye to "mask" eye, and we feel uncomfortable when we are "true" eye to "true" eye. This is natural, and to be expected with physical existence. When we become aware we can relate in truth and know that truth is our nature. This changes the way we view our environment, and so the mask we show changes, becomes more aligned with our inner truth. The subtleties of the human eye are amazing. Wildly different eyes are so not primarily by their physical difference, but by the differences in the divine spark within. In mind-controlled people the distance is so great that the connectivity between mask and truth is weak or severed.

[SilentFeathers]

Here's another interesting article that's related to this thread.


The '2045 Initiative' Says Immortality Will Come Via Brain Computers And Hologram Bodies In 30 Years

Here's the plan for holographic immortality if you want to get on board:
2012-2013. The global economic and social crises are exacerbated. The debates on the global paradigm of future development intensifies.

New transhumanist movements and parties emerge. Russia 2045 transforms into World 2045.

Simultaneously, the 2045.com international social network for open innovation is expanding. Here anyone interested may propose a project, take part in working on it, or fund it, or both. In the network, there are scientists, scholars, researchers, financiers and managers.

2013-2014. New centers working on cybernetic technologies for the development of radical life extension rise. The 'race for immortality' starts.

2015-2020. The Avatar is created — A robotic human copy controlled by thought via 'brain-computer' interface. It becomes as popular as a car.

2020. In Russia and in the world appear — in testing mode — several breakthrough projects:
Android robots replace people in manufacturing tasks; android robot servants for every home; thought-controlled Avatars to provide telepresence in any place of the world and abolish the need business trips; flying cars; thought driven mobile communications built into the body or sprayed onto the skin.

2020-2025. An autonomous system providing life support for the brain and allowing it interaction with the environment is created. The brain is transplanted into an Avatar B. With Avatar B man receives new, expanded life.

2025. The new generation of Avatars provides complete transmission of sensations from all five sensory robot organs to the operator.

2030-2035. ReBrain — The colossal project of brain reverse engineering is implemented. World science comes very close to understanding the principles of consciousness.

2035. The first successful attempt to transfer one's personality to an alternative carrier. The epoch of cybernetic immortality begins.

2040-2050. Bodies made of nanorobots that can take any shape arise alongside hologram bodies.

2045-2050. Drastic changes in social structure, and in scientific and technological development. All the
for space expansion are established.
For the man of the future, war and violence are unacceptable. The main priority of his development is spiritual self-improvement.

A new era dawns: The era of neohumanity.

FULL ARTICLE: http://www.businessinsider.com/initiative-2045-says-we-will-be-brain-computers-in-hologram-bodies-in-30-years-2012-7#ixzz22BnzhWCg

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[Davidallany]

Regardless of whether or not the story is True..?

Its (High Time) some of you 'Dalai Lama' devotees & supporters did some 'Homework' on...



Who he is..?
Why all of a sudden has his 'Name' been bandied across the Press of late through a PR Campaign Juggernaut..?
Why is he meeting and having his photo taken with the 'Who's Who of the Criminal Elite'..?



Just 'Bloody-Well' search for yourselves how the 'Dalai Lama' fits into the 'Elite's Big Picture' & Why of late he has become a 'Major Player'...:faint:

Reading titles like His holiness, her Majesty or Saint bla, bla gives me the creeps. So many saints are nothing but Wolves In Sheep's Clothing.

[Flash]

Some saints were real saint, check with your heart, you will know.

But Billy Graham ain't imho.