America is not the greatest country in the world anymore! (Video clip)

[A Simple Human]

Hello Avalonians,

I received the following video clip via email today. It’s a short segment from HBO’s show, The Newsroom (http://www.hbo.com/the-newsroom/index.html#/the-newsroom/about/article/about.html/eNrjcmbOYM5nLlTPz0lxzEvMqSzJTA5ITE-1S8xN1SzLTEnNh4k65+eVpFaUcDIyskknlpbkF+QkVtqWFJWmsjGyMQIAUKwXOA==). I can not endorse the show because I’ve never seen it before. I do not subscribe to HBO, or even watch much t.v. anymore. As its title suggests, the show tracks the ongoings of a fictional newsroom staff.

I feel the clip would be a good resource to show patriots who refuse to believe that anything is wrong with America (or the world for that matter), who believe that everything you present is a conspiracy theory, and who wish to remain with their heads in the sand.

The segment does a stellar job of pointing out some key problems in a concise, relatable fashion without getting into the NWO agenda, Black Ops, Archons, Extraterrestrials, etc…, which tends to go over most people’s heads.

Warning: The following video contains explicit language

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“The first step in solving any problem is recognizing there is one… America is not the greatest country in the world anymore.”

We, Americans, need no longer seek international supremacy either. Humanity needs to collectively overcome this pyramidal hierarchical structure which places one nation (or a small group of nations) above all others. Humanity needs to adhere to the noble ideals where every human being is afforded the same rights, opportunities, necessities and freedoms regardless of his/her residence. Obviously, the Cabal’s NWO agenda is not the solution.

A.S.H.

[jackovesk]

The 'Ironic' thing is Simple Human is that America Never Was or Ever Has been "The Greatest Country in the World"...:nono:

That is a (TAG) the Corporate Global Elite 'Puppetmasters' gave them, to further their Agenda...:yes4:

[Mark]

Interesting video.

My own thoughts run more toward the esoteric destiny of America as the gathering of the "4 Human Tribes" and the "Place of Destiny" the "Land Fortold" where the great challenges of our times will be played out. I see America as a nationalistic Avatar of sorts that represents the entire world in microcosm, as all of the world's people are there and, despite the failings of the country toward its citizens and the rest of the world - as partly enumerated in this video - it still represents an apex of potentiality that many people, groups and nations across the world still strive to emulate and even best America in manifesting.

The times are what they are. Problems are world-wide. All here know the issues probably better than most around the world.

But I think it goes without saying that when America finally explodes into conflict, everyone around the world will know what time it really is.

[Maia Gabrial]

Just found this on Red Ice Creations

Jeff Daniels does a great job giving hard, honest facts after the other 2 candidates gave their typical BS answers to this college audience. What impressed me the most was the way he explodes with his answers and then explains why. Can you imagine ANY candidate speaking the truth like this? The audience couldn't, judging by their silence.... I have to say sadly, I agree with what he said. See what you think....

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My hopes are that once all of the "reasons" that brought us down are totally eliminated, we'll have a better country than ever before....We're evolving and so will our country.... It will get better....

And who can forget this famous rant:

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[9eagle9]

Not likely people are going to get mad as hell and proclaim their life is worth something...

it's not 'positive'.

Which is precisely why the positive program was initiated so no one would get mad enough to charge up and change their condition.

The abused woman who finally got fed up enough on her own account has more empowerment than most of our BS modern beliefs....

[christian]

Not likely people are going to get mad as hell and proclaim their life is worth something...

it's not 'positive'.

Which is precisely why the positive program was initiated so no one would get mad enough to charge up and change their condition.

The abused woman who finally got fed up enough on her own account has more empowerment than most of our BS modern beliefs....

Sure there is a pseudo-spiritual movement operated as a part of COINTELPRO.

But as far as I can see, by the time more and more people are identifying this false 'positivity' for what it is and realize that genuine spirituality means becoming aware of the dark and consciously transcending it -- instead of running from it.

Anyways, since you seem rather pessimistic about this process, now what to do to support the hopelessly trapped?

[RunningDeer]

Not likely people are going to get mad as hell and proclaim their life is worth something...

it's not 'positive'.

Which is precisely why the positive program was initiated so no one would get mad enough to charge up and change their condition.

The abused woman who finally got fed up enough on her own account has more empowerment than most of our BS modern beliefs....

Sure there is a pseudo-spiritual movement operated as a part of COINTELPRO.

But as far as I can see, by the time more and more people are identifying this false 'positivity' for what it is and realize that genuine spirituality means becoming aware of the dark and consciously transcending it -- instead of running from it.

Anyways, since you seem rather pessimistic about this process, now what to do to support the hopelessly trapped?

I'm thinking as a jump start that if enough people got a taste of what's going on the good, the bad, the ugly, then awareness on the planet would shake people out of their complacency. They'll have to find their own answers. We're just substituting sleeping pills for wake up pills and hope enough come out of their slumber.

I can't fix anybody. I can offer a picture that they, up to this point, haven't seen.


I’m brainstorming... which means awareness of the flaws, but keep the process going.

- Free Fridays for any and all, 5:00-10:00 @ drive in’s, theaters, parks, picnic blanket meet ups...anywhere to run “alternative information," time to inform in places that internet is not working.
- Time to spread knowledge with fresh packaging.
- Meet up groups for discussions for two hours. First hour is to air anger and second hour to brain storm solutions on all levels.
- Each meet up group posts on a main switch board on web for further brainstorming.
- Skype discussions across the world.
- The larger it spreads, many more will come on board.

At the very least what happens?

bonding
information
ideas
strength in numbers
safety in numbers creates people to relax enough to allow their ideas to flow
renewed sense of purpose
revive hope
chance to make a difference
energies are raised which in turn spread out to those about to awaken



You can't do anything for the hopelessly trapped. ..
...this might not be positive, it may 'sound' and feel pessimistic but it has freed me from the idea or thought that I have to help everyone. You can't help people who don't want help. That is a truth that is not feel good but still a truth that sets you free and being free actually feels good.

[9eagle9]

You can't do anything for the hopelessly trapped. That was my lesson, that is my **** I had to transcend--I can't help anyone who "wants what they don't want.". Because they want to be in that condition. They are addicted to their emotions. They want to be hopelessly trapped in a false emotional box.

Now on the few occasions when I attempt to pry them from the box they are perceived as being attacked because they need an abuser.

It suffices to hear something 'positive' that makes them feel good. It doesn't matter if it its not true or will never happen, it suffices that they get a fix from it.

The only people I can help are the ones who truly want to be empowered. It's not pessimism it is realism. What I am optimistic about are those who want facilitation, who understand they have to look at their own density,that darkness is a necessary condition of this 3d world and they can't be afraid of it because there is nothing in the dark to be afraid of.

What failed me was me...my own expectations when it was made known to to me that I'd be helping others like me. So 'thinking' that everyone was pretty much the same as I, I expected to be helping a lot of people. A LOT Of people showed up not wanting help but to make a co dependent scenario. I can't work with people like that. I support, I don't carry baggage. I'm not a bell hop. That is another trap that very aware people are lured by. Once you start supporting baggage you become so burdened you can do nothing. ...you stop being aware.

The minute someone makes me responsible for their emotions, and I accept that responsbility, I stop being aware. They give up their power and so do I.

Ultimately I would be surprised if I could facilitate a dozen people a year. I missed the point. People LIKE me, that were on a similar density level or vibrational level. Even people who are genetically similar to me. Who else would support them?

Who would support me, a relatively aware person? Someone who is blinded by the light. They can't help me. This is reciprocal, everything is.

Very few people can I faciltiate with (not help, or drag baggage but direct) but still that much more worthwhile because they are so rare--that person who wants to dig in and help themselves, do their work, instead of tying their compromised psyche up in a bunch of prattling indulgence. People sitting in armchairs waving their fists with Drake are deluding themselves, if they have sat in an armchair their whole life they don't even have the physical wherewithall to participate in some bloody revolution.

People who fall for the Wilcocks and those like him don't have the psychological wherewithall to conduct a means of extricating themselves from psychological warfare when they are inviting it in.

I can't help those people and I know why I can't help those people so I'm not going to obsess over the multitudes I can't help and put my energy into helping those that I have a chance of facilitating with.

The masses will damage me or at least make the attempt to, dragging me down with their **** they don't want to let go of..

People who want to free themselves and do the work necessary to do that, empowers both of us, frees both of us. It's a two way street.

The only people I learn from in this forum are people who have done their work. People who are shown through their own endeavors, and not just 'told'. People who are authentic in their expression.

this might not be positive, it may 'sound' and feel pessimistic but it has freed me from the idea or thought that I have to help everyone. You can't help people who don't want help. That is a truth that is not feel good but still a truth that sets you free and being free actually feels good.

[christian]

this might not be positive, it may 'sound' and feel pessimistic but it has freed me from the idea or thought that I have to help everyone. You can't help people who don't want help. That is a truth that is not feel good but still a truth that sets you free and being free actually feels good.

I meant pessimistic in the sense that you were saying it's not likely that people will stand up for themselves. That is a pessimistic outlook, isn't it?

People, who do not want to be helped, cannot be helped, this is very true and not pessimistic, but realistic. But then again, I don't really accept this as the end of 'what one can do about this' :)

I think, by purposefully not caring about them, not commenting on their misery and stupidity you can do something about it. Because then on the one side you are free to use your energy more creatively and on the other side they might feel uncomfortable with not getting any attention from you and then they maybe change, if it's only for getting your attention. Or they change because they feel miserable while they see you enjoying your life abundantly without even wasting a thought on them. Leading by example, inspiring them.

[9eagle9]

You asked me a question: How do we support the helplessly trapped.

And I answered. I didn't give you an answer you wanted. I can give people medicine but I can't make them swallow it. I can give people advice but I can't make them follow through on it. How do I make anyone do anything? I can't without losing my own integrity. I'd have to do it the same way the ptb does it and I'm not going there. It's not up to me to decide who lives or dies. It's up to the individual--that's the sovereignty they keep squalling for as if some external entity could give it to them.

One they aren't helpless. That is actually pessimism.

They aren't moving under their own volition which isn't the same as helpless. Once one is informed they are no longer a victim they have a choice.

People are not standing up for themselves now in spite of being made aware of all the psychological warfare that is going on. Right here in the forum all you hear people with hurt feelings, and woundedness and screaming for moderation that they've been insulted. These people are going to take on the world's power brokers?

Right. What are they going to do? Cry? Emotionally manipulate those who created the emotional manipulation programs in the first place.

The future is created now.

So what is occurring NOW that would lead me to know that they will make different choices in the future when right now they are doing the same thing over and over again, belief hopping and calling spiritual growth, when they are just hopping from belief to belief with no awareness whatsoever. They can't get mad now....when the future is being put into motion, so when should I know they will get mad?

Maybe in another life time. People are still caught in the mindtrap of evolution. Spiritually they are not evolving, they are expanding what traps them in the first place and can't tell them otherwise because they are attached to those endeavors.

What needs to occur to change that? It's not like anything is hidden anymore.

How do you care for something that doesn't care for itself? You can't.

If I want to create my own future, I have to know these things and accept them. It takes courage to accept that which I cannot change. It has nothing to do with me, so there's no point in flinching from it.

Not necessarily 'like' what is becoming more apparent but accept what I am seeing is in fact what is concurring. We can't frost it with icing to make the future sound better but that doesn't mean the cake is currently in the oven. We have been 'told' for two decades or more that wonderful things were going to happen, and its become apparent NOW that those where just stories. But we are loathe to give up that happy ending scenario.

The only way I can navigate my own future to my full potential is accepting that, not getting bogged down in it.

[modwiz]

You asked me a question: How do we support the helplessly trapped.

And I answered. I didn't give you an answer you wanted. I can give people medicine but I can't make them swallow it. I can give people advice but I can't make them follow through on it. How do I make anyone do anything? I can't without losing my own integrity. I'd have to do it the same way the ptb does it and I'm not going there. It's not up to me to decide who lives or dies. It's up to the individual--that's the sovereignty they keep squalling for as if some external entity could give it to them.

One they aren't helpless. That is actually pessimism.

They aren't moving under their own volition which isn't the same as helpless. Once one is informed they are no longer a victim they have a choice.

People are not standing up for themselves now in spite of being made aware of all the psychological warfare that is going on. Right here in the forum all you hear people with hurt feelings, and woundedness and screaming for moderation that they've been insulted. These people are going to take on the world's power brokers?

Right. What are they going to do? Cry? Emotionally manipulate those who created the emotional manipulation programs in the first place.

The future is created now.

So what is occurring NOW that would lead me to know that they will make different choices in the future when right now they are doing the same thing over and over again, belief hopping and calling spiritual growth, when they are just hopping from belief to belief with no awareness whatsoever. They can't get mad now....when the future is being put into motion, so when should I know they will get mad?

Maybe in another life time. People are still caught in the mindtrap of evolution. Spiritually they are not evolving, they are expanding what traps them in the first place and can't tell them otherwise because they are attached to those endeavors.

What needs to occur to change that? It's not like anything is hidden anymore.

How do you care for something that doesn't care for itself? You can't.

If I want to create my own future, I have to know these things and accept them. It takes courage to accept that which I cannot change. It has nothing to do with me, so there's no point in flinching from it.

Not necessarily 'like' what is becoming more apparent but accept what I am seeing is in fact what is concurring. We can't frost it with icing to make the future sound better but that doesn't mean the cake is currently in the oven. We have been 'told' for two decades or more that wonderful things were going to happen, and its become apparent NOW that those where just stories. But we are loathe to give up that happy ending scenario.

The only way I can navigate my own future to my full potential is accepting that, not getting bogged down in it.

You have so much to offer that could help us, but if you can't say it nicely then I CAN"T HEAR YOU! At least that is my excuse for not making use of all the excellent insight you offer us. And, since you seem unable to say things nicely, then I can stay stuck and it is all your fault. :cry::crutch: How do you expect me to respect you as a teacher if you can't be nice? Give me a gold star, my esteem needs boosting. :yes4::help:
You're a mean ol' curmudgeon. :whip::fish:

[Sidney]

America has become the Greatest failure, and the epitome of broken promises on earth. I am ashamed.

[9eagle9]

Here's your gold star, fashioned from one hundred percent gilt plated foreskin . A Teste-ment to your own curmedgeonly being. It used to be mine but I'm not buying this curmedgeon crap--that website was filled with silver haired scowling men--no one in there in the least resembled me. I'll keep the gold metal though, who knows when another will come my way.


Help-LESS...without help. Obviously there's tons of of people out there wanting to help them, formerly I used to too. So they weren't without help, or lacking in help. They refuse help. They are not help deprived.

I know....I KNOW...I am often tempted to give a video response to the emotionally sensitive so they know I'm speaking in a modulated, calm, conversational, detached tone, and its their emotional state that is assigning values to it.

I'm not withholding anything from anyone in spite of my perceived tone and then I'm alternately accused on not helping people and that is just crazy making **** and it aint' coming from me!


OMG Starchild why are YOU ashamed?


QUOTE=modwiz;529317]
You asked me a question: How do we support the helplessly trapped.

And I answered. I didn't give you an answer you wanted. I can give people medicine but I can't make them swallow it. I can give people advice but I can't make them follow through on it. How do I make anyone do anything? I can't without losing my own integrity. I'd have to do it the same way the ptb does it and I'm not going there. It's not up to me to decide who lives or dies. It's up to the individual--that's the sovereignty they keep squalling for as if some external entity could give it to them.

One they aren't helpless. That is actually pessimism.

They aren't moving under their own volition which isn't the same as helpless. Once one is informed they are no longer a victim they have a choice.

People are not standing up for themselves now in spite of being made aware of all the psychological warfare that is going on. Right here in the forum all you hear people with hurt feelings, and woundedness and screaming for moderation that they've been insulted. These people are going to take on the world's power brokers?

Right. What are they going to do? Cry? Emotionally manipulate those who created the emotional manipulation programs in the first place.

The future is created now.

So what is occurring NOW that would lead me to know that they will make different choices in the future when right now they are doing the same thing over and over again, belief hopping and calling spiritual growth, when they are just hopping from belief to belief with no awareness whatsoever. They can't get mad now....when the future is being put into motion, so when should I know they will get mad?

Maybe in another life time. People are still caught in the mindtrap of evolution. Spiritually they are not evolving, they are expanding what traps them in the first place and can't tell them otherwise because they are attached to those endeavors.

What needs to occur to change that? It's not like anything is hidden anymore.

How do you care for something that doesn't care for itself? You can't.

If I want to create my own future, I have to know these things and accept them. It takes courage to accept that which I cannot change. It has nothing to do with me, so there's no point in flinching from it.

Not necessarily 'like' what is becoming more apparent but accept what I am seeing is in fact what is concurring. We can't frost it with icing to make the future sound better but that doesn't mean the cake is currently in the oven. We have been 'told' for two decades or more that wonderful things were going to happen, and its become apparent NOW that those where just stories. But we are loathe to give up that happy ending scenario.

The only way I can navigate my own future to my full potential is accepting that, not getting bogged down in it.

You have so much to offer that could help us, but if you can't say it nicely then I CAN"T HEAR YOU! At least that is my excuse for not making use of all the excellent insight you offer us. And, since you seem unable to say things nicely, then I can stay stuck and it is all your fault. :cry::crutch: How do you expect me to respect you as a teacher if you can't be nice? Give me a gold star, my esteem needs boosting. :yes4::help:
You're a mean ol' curmudgeon. :whip::fish:[/QUOTE]

[modwiz]

@9keagle9, Grail Maiden of Kindness:
If you weren't so busy scolding people maybe you could master the quoting thingy. I can't even use your post because of the way you mangled it. :P

No thanks either.:mad2:

[Sidney]

I am ashamed because I too have failed to make a difference in this country that is my home.

[9eagle9]

The foreskin remark apparently bent your line of thought that you've just referred to me as Kegle.

to let you know.....

Now...what were you saying about my quote?



@9keagle9, Grail Maiden of Kindness:
If you weren't so busy scolding people maybe you could master the quoting thingy. I can't even use your post because of the way you mangled it. :P

No thanks either.:mad2:

[David Trd1]

America has become the Greatest failure, and the epitome of broken promises on earth. I am ashamed.


Not yet,slumped,slouched and sick yes,but failure no.It has also been one of the greatest tools of awakening(COLLECTIVELY) through its actions,positive and negative(more so),since its inception.There are gifts in the suffering and growth in the depths to which she has fallen.We can only learn through experience and from a different perspective the actions of the states has been fruitful to many who wish to see.

One cannot know the wrong road until its been walked before.

And collectively we are learning that i feel.

peace.

[Sidney]

I realized today while watching the olympics that even our national anthem is made up of words of war. The rockets red glare and the bombs bursting in air......................... Its all about the wars. It makes me sick. Stopping the wars is the greatest answer to the greatest problems. Our anthem......:(

[Rocky_Shorz]

you know, I am sitting here, 5 miles from the beach in a land that is 75 degrees every day, it rains 5 days a year yet everything is green...

we have every nationality in the world living here with us, of all religions living in complete peace...

we have neighborhood BBQs where everyone is invited, kids laughing and playing, adults talking about changes in the workplace...

now, looking around, I think I'm in the promised lands, because it doesn't get any better than this...

if a country is rated on it's riches, I measure it by golden hearts, and I'm surrounded by them...

so unless you're in the 1% crying your eyes out seeing your world is about to change, well big deal, go to your money that you shipped off shore, it is your greed that crippled this country. Your cold cruel hearts are the reason America isn't loved, we the people are...

we're all excited to hear you are packing up to leave, once you are gone, I'm changing the whole world into San Diego... ;)

[pyrangello]

I saw that video a week or 2 ago, just as in the movie starman, " why is it you humans are at your best when things are at their very worst". Politicians all around the world have ran on the premise that say and give the people what they want to hear and thus get elected. Only thing is the game is just about up which is why you are seeing some new politicians come to the surface with no sugar coatings, just an actual snapshot of today's reality . Just as the govenor of new jersey said to a group of 4000 union firefighters after he slashed there pension to actually save their pension quote " The diirty little secret is that all the politicians before me lied to you to get elected ".

I wouldn't rule the people of america out, it's the system that actually needs to change in order to function anymore . And just as all governments do, they wait til the last minute. As a friend of mine said from sweden one time, you only have a revolution if you don't have 3 things, 1) a bed to sleep in 2) food to eat 3) a warm place to take a xxxx - hint -in a toilet, :) . Back when George Washington was president it only took 3 % of the popualtion to make a difference against the tyranny of the british.

I'm thinking with the awakening of many, the flash mobs of a higher energy of music all around the world and many who believe that yes one person can contribute, large or small does indeed make a difference for us to smile!

[chancy]

you know, I am sitting here, 5 miles from the beach in a land that is 75 degrees every day, it rains 5 days a year yet everything is green...
we have every nationality in the world living here with us, of all religions living in complete peace...
we have neighborhood BBQs where everyone is invited, kids laughing and playing, adults talking about changes in the workplace...
now, looking around, I think I'm in the promised lands, because it doesn't get any better than this...
if a country is rated on it's riches, I measure it by golden hearts, and I'm surrounded by them...
so unless you're in the 1% crying your eyes out seeing your world is about to change, well big deal, go to your money that you shipped off shore, it is your greed that crippled this country. Your cold cruel hearts are the reason America isn't loved, we the people are...
we're all excited to hear you are packing up to leave, once you are gone, I'm changing the whole world into San Diego... ;)

Hello Rocky_Shorz and Avalonians:
It's always great to hear some patriotic rant! It's always great to watch the fireworks when someone says something about anothers beliefs or country.
I for one love all the countries I have ever travelled too! I love the usa! It's the only place in the world you can get put in jail for doing nothing and wished a great time as they send you on your way! I love america!!
As for all the wishy washy comments I'll stay away from them since anything I have wanted to say will be said and probably more eloquently than it could and would be said by yours truly.
For a teaser on patriotism here's a documentary to show how patriotism more than likely came about. (Here's a hint...WAR! )
What else can you tell a family when their son or daughter doesn't come home? What else can you tell yourself when your son or daughter has to enter the service? What else do you tell your kids when their mom, dad, brother or sister, aunt, uncle or any other loved one just doesn't come home and isn't coming home.
( Another hint....Hero )
Before giving everthing away please just watch this well done documentary. It's quite inspiring to say the least!
I speak no ill towards anyone! I love being treated like a criminal with no record to prove my innocence. The only thing I can offer in this thread is a worn out key board from typing when the urge strikes.
Enjoy the documentary
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWyhOKbqdEQ

[Rocky_Shorz]

well I wouldn't count my comments as a Patriotic Rant, I live in a Bubble in paradise...

I don't turn on the news for 24 hours a day so I can be programmed into depression

I walk the beach every day, other than rising food prices, nothing else really bothers me, I hopped off the debt wheel a dozen years ago...

I don't need two people working 18 hours a day to keep the banks mansion I live in paid for... but one hic-up and they toss me into the streets

that's stress...

not earning enough to pay for it... is stress

not having enough to pay for my house and still buy food... is stress

3rd world countries spend over 50% of their income to feed the family...

they're the happiest people in the world, just knowing they aren't hungry...

they sing they dance and they love...

children are happy, parents are home to watch them grow up instead of working...

now, the middle class has fallen off the wheel, and are finding happiness with less...

everyone is happier with less...

except for the Bankers of Wall Street FREAKING OUT because credit is getting paid off, and cards tossed away...

they can't get anyone back on the wheel...

they destroyed everyone's credit to charge higher rates from everyone needing money...

but no one wants it...

[chancy]

Hello everyone:
I'm not pointing any fingers or blaming anyone. Simply making a statement that all of us are in the same boat and we need to stand up and say "NO".
In my tiny part of the planet most foods have gone up 60 % in the last year. Taxes keep everyone in line by paying upto 50% plus all the hidden taxes. Most people want to pay more taxes according to the polls. The government just took everyones land away by legislation and no one cares. ( could give ya"ll the bills that were past but kind of tired as of late. )
Even as a debt free type of person I find that everything is going up all the time and no one but myself seems to care. Since we are debt free the increase is just an increase and not a mortgage destroyer or marriage breaker.
Since we are talking about the great us of a in this thread I don't think it's the best place on the planet nor do I think there is any perfect place on the planet since I have travelled it quite a few times. I've loved every country I have been to for it's dynamic and unique traits.
North America needs to stop buying, buying and more buying and enjoy what we have. We could always kick out the flavor for another set of politicians but that wouldn't solve anything!
My motto is "pay it forward"
Not for brownie points but just to make someone's burden a little less for a short or hopefully a long time.
chancy

[Rocky_Shorz]

a smile is an act of kindness and does get passed on...

everyone sits around saying how bad it is, but is it?

more time with family, drinking less beer so we're all losing weight, doctors are loving we cut down on red meat...

pretty soon everyone is laughing and tossing in other positive things, it's all about the moment, but, it is remembered and shared...

might as well enjoy what we have, while we have it...

[Bill Ryan]

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The presentation linked below is fascinating -- and makes a compelling case that the most powerful country in the world (measured against a number of counts) is now China.

http://finance.uncommonwisdomdaily.com/reports/RWR/DEC-VSP/dec-vsp-49-alt.php?ccode=&em=&sc=ytub&ec=5039101

Grit your teeth and tolerate the financial promotion part (which is what this is!) -- but the information in it, comparing the US and China, is really valuable and important to understand.


(http://finance.uncommonwisdomdaily.com/reports/RWR/DEC-VSP/dec-vsp-49-alt.php?ccode=&em=&sc=ytub&ec=5039101)

[Feren]

There is no such a country called "America".
Why do northern americans (from the US) call their country America? It is "The United States of America" isn't it?
Anyway, it has never been the greatest country in the world. Only the most arrogant.
I'm american, from Colombia, near Venuezuela, Panama, Ecuador. As american as any american.

[WhiteFeather]

IMO.......America is owned by Great Britain, Always was. We are just their police force......if you will. The bloodlines of our presidents that revert back to Great Britain is the clue.

[RunningDeer]

You asked me a question: How do we support the helplessly trapped.

And I answered. I didn't give you an answer you wanted. I can give people medicine but I can't make them swallow it. I can give people advice but I can't make them follow through on it. How do I make anyone do anything? I can't without losing my own integrity. I'd have to do it the same way the ptb does it and I'm not going there. It's not up to me to decide who lives or dies. It's up to the individual--that's the sovereignty they keep squalling for as if some external entity could give it to them.

One they aren't helpless. That is actually pessimism.

They aren't moving under their own volition which isn't the same as helpless. Once one is informed they are no longer a victim they have a choice.

People are not standing up for themselves now in spite of being made aware of all the psychological warfare that is going on. Right here in the forum all you hear people with hurt feelings, and woundedness and screaming for moderation that they've been insulted. These people are going to take on the world's power brokers?

Right. What are they going to do? Cry? Emotionally manipulate those who created the emotional manipulation programs in the first place.

The future is created now.

So what is occurring NOW that would lead me to know that they will make different choices in the future when right now they are doing the same thing over and over again, belief hopping and calling spiritual growth, when they are just hopping from belief to belief with no awareness whatsoever. They can't get mad now....when the future is being put into motion, so when should I know they will get mad?

Maybe in another life time. People are still caught in the mindtrap of evolution. Spiritually they are not evolving, they are expanding what traps them in the first place and can't tell them otherwise because they are attached to those endeavors.

What needs to occur to change that? It's not like anything is hidden anymore.

How do you care for something that doesn't care for itself? You can't.

If I want to create my own future, I have to know these things and accept them. It takes courage to accept that which I cannot change. It has nothing to do with me, so there's no point in flinching from it.

Not necessarily 'like' what is becoming more apparent but accept what I am seeing is in fact what is concurring. We can't frost it with icing to make the future sound better but that doesn't mean the cake is currently in the oven. We have been 'told' for two decades or more that wonderful things were going to happen, and its become apparent NOW that those where just stories. But we are loathe to give up that happy ending scenario.

The only way I can navigate my own future to my full potential is accepting that, not getting bogged down in it.

You have so much to offer that could help us, but if you can't say it nicely then I CAN"T HEAR YOU! At least that is my excuse for not making use of all the excellent insight you offer us. And, since you seem unable to say things nicely, then I can stay stuck and it is all your fault. :cry::crutch: How do you expect me to respect you as a teacher if you can't be nice? Give me a gold star, my esteem needs boosting. :yes4::help:
You're a mean ol' curmudgeon. :whip::fish:


I agree modwiz. 9eagles9, your capacity to see from the greater perspective has assisted me. I’ve share this already, but want to repost it because it’s my way of saying thanks again. And because I worked hard at meeting your ideas half way, I was able to break free of some out dated and false views. Many that haven’t had the time or opportunity aren’t able to at this time. So it's unfortunate that they’ll loose out on your wisdom.

Repost to 9eagle9 from another thread:

I’ve had to work beyond judgements, and be open to hear. Once I stepped back to see from the larger perspective, your delivery style dissolved.

On an inner level, your messages registered. There were times I was only able to chew on one sentence at a time. Then I’d go out with my researcher's cap, to disprove one of us; always hoping it was you.

(Oops, no surprise there.) http://www.pic4ever.com/images/wind14.gif

:moil: So, my approach to busting through the few firewalls left is with a new found honesty and clarity.


Also from another post, and a reminder for all of us at times:

Blinded by an urgency for change, one forgets that we all process information differently. When the communication style eclipsed the message, we all loose.

Peace,
Paula

[RMorgan]

There is no such a country called "America".
Why do northern americans (from the US) call their country America? It is "The United States of America" isn't it?
Anyway, it has never been the greatest country in the world. Only the most arrogant.
I'm american, from Colombia, near Venuezuela, Panama, Ecuador. As american as any american.

Agreed 100% my friend!

There´s no country called America.

There´s South-America, Central-America and North-America; three different continents.

America is just a general term to describe the this tri-continental set.

I believe the USA is the only country that doesn´t have a proper and accurate term to designate its natural born citizens, I mean, Brazil/Brazilian, Colombia/Colombian, China/Chinese, Germany/German, Canada/Canadian...USA/American?????

That´s weird and extremely arrogant indeed.

Here in Brazil we use the term "estadounidenses" to describe United States (Estados Unidos) citizens , which could be translated to something like "unitedstatians".

Raf.

[SilentFeathers]

IMO.......America is owned by Great Britain, Always was. We are just their police force......if you will. The bloodlines of our presidents that revert back to Great Britain is the clue.

I agree, it was really apparent during W's admin as Georgie couldn't tie his shoes without Blairs permission. These two critters were like two peas in a pod. A good study on American USA history will confirm this "ownership" even more. Reagan made it look obvious too in several instances, wasn't he even knighted?

A keen observation and it's quite telling that Brittian basically owned and controlled most of the world for a few centuries now....their cleverly crafted flags are still flying all over on this planet.

Long live the queen!!!!! LOL!!!!!

[Ilie Pandia]

The presentation linked below is fascinating -- and makes a compelling case that the most powerful country in the world (measured against a number of counts) is now China.

http://finance.uncommonwisdomdaily.com/reports/RWR/DEC-VSP/dec-vsp-49-alt.php?ccode=&em=&sc=ytub&ec=5039101


From a financial market point of view the above presentation makes sense. But if you step back and have a broader perspective you're just changing one digital currency with another digital currency. The financial elite will continue to prosper while the "not so lucky" will continue to get poorer and poorer.

I also don't understand this compulsive obsession with making money of thin air... double and triple your profits each year! Stocks are about soar to the moon! Quickly people, act now! Let's shuffle a pile of money a couple of times and surely will have more in the end!

I fail to understand how investing in any kinds of stocks will help you in the case of a financial collapse, unless you have your private jet and you can fly to China to take possession of your gold or whatever paper assets you have bought. Otherwise you will just be left with piles of paper with "title of ownership" that will be less valuable than toilet paper.

The video makes one point clear though. The only economic power that US has left is that it can print the US Dollar (a reserve currency (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reserve_currency)). But that is irrelevant to China (and anybody) who understands that real wealth are natural resources and the human intelligence and creativity to use those resources. Money is simply a convenient means of exchange (that is now being used to confuse people about what "value" really is).

Oh, and by the way, while this shows continues of "counting the money until they appear to be more", the banks are busy acquiring real assets.

[9eagle9]

The same Reasons South America is called South America and North America is North America--to have a conglomerate to be unionized at a later date.

Personally I refer to the United States as the United States or the US..We are the United States of (the) America(s )which includes Canada, and Mexico. When someone refers to America here in the north I am presuming they are speaking of the continent, Mexico, Canada or the US.

The US , being united, was intended to be unionized. United.


There is no such a country called "America".
Why do northern americans (from the US) call their country America? It is "The United States of America" isn't it?
Anyway, it has never been the greatest country in the world. Only the most arrogant.
I'm american, from Colombia, near Venuezuela, Panama, Ecuador. As american as any american.

[9eagle9]

That may be because most of us are not indigenous to this country save for the Native Americans. Why we used to call ourselves Irish-Americans, German-Americans, Afro Americans. This form of address fell out of favor a few years back, people that it was exclusionary even though its more correct. We weren't with the 'program' if we didn't refer to ourselves as Americans. Most Canadians refer to themselves as Canadians and not Americans even though they are. Most Canadians are not indigenous to Canada either.

"America' was supposed to be a great melting pot so people could lose their cultural identity ". So if there is some confusion ...that's why. It's intentional. The ptb want us to have not our natural identities but the ones of the place they created for us to lose our identity in.



Most of the Canada and US are not naturally born here and should have been born elsewhere...lol.



There is no such a country called "America".
Why do northern americans (from the US) call their country America? It is "The United States of America" isn't it?
Anyway, it has never been the greatest country in the world. Only the most arrogant.
I'm american, from Colombia, near Venuezuela, Panama, Ecuador. As american as any american.

Agreed 100% my friend!

There´s no country called America.

There´s South-America, Central-America and North-America; three different continents.

America is just a general term to describe the this tri-continental set.

I believe the USA is the only country that doesn´t have a proper and accurate term to designate its natural born citizens, I mean, Brazil/Brazilian, Colombia/Colombian, China/Chinese, Germany/German, Canada/Canadian...USA/American?????

That´s weird and extremely arrogant indeed.

Here in Brazil we use the term "estadounidenses" to describe United States (Estados Unidos) citizens , which could be translated to something like "unitedstatians".

Raf.

[Feren]

The same Reasons South America is called South America and North America is North America--to have a conglomerate to be unionized at a later date.

Personally I refer to the United States as the United States or the US..We are the United States of (the) America(s )which includes Canada, and Mexico. When someone refers to America here in the north I am presuming they are speaking of the continent, Mexico, Canada or the US.

The US , being united, was intended to be unionized. United.


There is no such a country called "America".
Why do northern americans (from the US) call their country America? It is "The United States of America" isn't it?
Anyway, it has never been the greatest country in the world. Only the most arrogant.
I'm american, from Colombia, near Venuezuela, Panama, Ecuador. As american as any american.

'THE AMERICAS' or 'AMERICA', which are the same, include the United States of America, Canada, Mexico, Guatemala, El Salvador, Honduras, Puerto Rico, Costa Rica, Belice, Panama, Nicaragua, Colombia, Venezuela, Peru, Ecuador, Bolivia, Guyanas, Brazil, Argentina, Chile, Uruguay, Paraguay, and many others that I can't remember.
There should not be any confusion. If there is, it is because of your consent.

[ThePythonicCow]

Grit your teeth and tolerate the financial promotion part (which is what this is!) -- but the information in it, comparing the US and China, is really valuable and important to understand.
While the shift in dominance from the US to China that this video outlines is important to recognize, by the time I apply my "fear and greed" filter, there's not much left :).

And yes, as Ilie notes, winning the financial markets game doesn't count for much, if the entire financial market game loses.

[9eagle9]

North America is called North America because its in the Northern hemisphere. South America is called South America. So we know what America we are talking about across a broad expanse of hemisphere.

There's not a whole lot to be confused by. If you want me to say that South America is better than North America then okay, it is.




'THE AMERICAS' or 'AMERICA', which are the same, include the United States of America, Canada, Mexico, Guatemala, El Salvador, Honduras, Puerto Rico, Costa Rica, Belice, Panama, Nicaragua, Colombia, Venezuela, Peru, Ecuador, Bolivia, Guyanas, Brazil, Argentina, Chile, Uruguay, Paraguay, and many others that I can't remember.
There should not be any confusion. If there is, it is because of your consent.

[Feren]

9eagle9,
I don't think we are speaking the same language. I am just pointing out OUR ignorance.
Sorry if I sounded like I was attacking you.
Cheers,
Ferén

[christian]

You asked me a question: How do we support the helplessly trapped.

And I answered. I didn't give you an answer you wanted.

I must protest, I don't want anything from you :) I appreciated your honest answer, I just felt like taking the baton were you dropped it and running on. Because in my view, as I said, you can still help those who do not want to be helped -- from a certain perspective. Of course you can never successfully take over their free will, but we don't want that anyways. But you can do something to prepare the ground for them as good as possible, that's what I wanted to point out, just meant to share this viewpoint.

[Cartomancer]

I'm going to sound old here but what the hey. If you are over 45 years old you would agree 100% with what the guy said in the video. The United States of America is no longer what it used to be for good or ill. We have been intentionally hamstrung and handicapped. If you are younger than that you may not have a concept of what the United States of America used to be. I saw the rest of the show on youtube and it is pretty good. I notice some HBO programming being done by someone who is awake and aware.

Having traveled a little I and many other citizens of the United States of America usually say the state that we are from to describe where we live so those distinctions are not as valid as you may think. We are mostly referred to as 'Americans' by others. On paper the official story is that the 'Americas' were named for Amerigo Vespucci who mapped the continent early on. He actually mapped what is now the east coast of the United States of America and this came to be called America by Europeans. This historical dynamic was not applied to Canada or Central/South America.

[Arrowwind]

The same Reasons South America is called South America and North America is North America--to have a conglomerate to be unionized at a later date.

Personally I refer to the United States as the United States or the US..We are the United States of (the) America(s )which includes Canada, and Mexico. When someone refers to America here in the north I am presuming they are speaking of the continent, Mexico, Canada or the US.

The US , being united, was intended to be unionized. United.


There is no such a country called "America".
Why do northern americans (from the US) call their country America? It is "The United States of America" isn't it?
Anyway, it has never been the greatest country in the world. Only the most arrogant.
I'm american, from Colombia, near Venuezuela, Panama, Ecuador. As american as any american.

'THE AMERICAS' or 'AMERICA', which are the same, include the United States of America, Canada, Mexico, Guatemala, El Salvador, Honduras, Puerto Rico, Costa Rica, Belice, Panama, Nicaragua, Colombia, Venezuela, Peru, Ecuador, Bolivia, Guyanas, Brazil, Argentina, Chile, Uruguay, Paraguay, and many others that I can't remember.
There should not be any confusion. If there is, it is because of your consent.

Absolutley. You dont have to travel very south of the border for very long to find out that Mexicans consider themselves Americans too, as well as Costa Ricans.
Its our blindsighted ingnorace that keeps us thinking that we are Americans and all the others are not. 'Americans" need to get out of town more and experience the world. That it the only cure for our collective ignorance/arrogance.

[LarryC]

America has become the Greatest failure, and the epitome of broken promises on earth. I am ashamed.

Why be ashamed? I am neither proud nor ashamed that I am labeled an American by various bureaucracies whose authority I don't recognize.

Any nation considered great would have to be one that has successfully implemented its agenda on a large number of people.

If you have to identify with one of these institutions at all, you're better off with a smaller one that's hardly ever in the news.

Tao Teh Ching
Verse 76

Men are born soft and supple;
dead, they are stiff and hard.
Plants are born tender and pliant;
dead, they are brittle and dry.

Thus whoever is stiff and inflexible
is a disciple of death.
Whoever is soft and yielding
is a disciple of life.

The hard and stiff will be broken.
The soft and supple will prevail.

Lao Tzu (c.604 - 531 B.C.)

[9eagle9]

If you know how to help people who refuse help by all means write it up. Preparing ground for them to do what?



You asked me a question: How do we support the helplessly trapped.

And I answered. I didn't give you an answer you wanted.

I must protest, I don't want anything from you :) I appreciated your honest answer, I just felt like taking the baton were you dropped it and running on. Because in my view, as I said, you can still help those who do not want to be helped -- from a certain perspective. Of course you can never successfully take over their free will, but we don't want that anyways. But you can do something to prepare the ground for them as good as possible, that's what I wanted to point out, just meant to share this viewpoint.

[Sidney]

America has become the Greatest failure, and the epitome of broken promises on earth. I am ashamed.

Why be ashamed? I am neither proud nor ashamed that I am labeled an American by various bureaucracies whose authority I don't recognize.

Any nation considered great would have to be one that has successfully implemented its agenda on a large number of people.

If you have to identify with one of these institutions at all, you're better off with a smaller one that's hardly ever in the news.

Tao Teh Ching
Verse 76

Men are born soft and supple;
dead, they are stiff and hard.
Plants are born tender and pliant;
dead, they are brittle and dry.

Thus whoever is stiff and inflexible
is a disciple of death.
Whoever is soft and yielding
is a disciple of life.

The hard and stiff will be broken.
The soft and supple will prevail.

Lao Tzu (c.604 - 531 B.C.)

Thats really beautiful, thank you for sharing that. : )

[sygh]

Every day this country changes. Concentrate on doing one true thing that you believe will be of a help to this country and the world. Become a master of it. Keep this pure in your meditations. Keep a pure heart. And... make sure you get your rest so you can think straight.


cheers.

[ghostrider]

The 'Ironic' thing is Simple Human is that America Never Was or Ever Has been "The Greatest Country in the World"...:nono:

That is a (TAG) the Corporate Global Elite 'Puppetmasters' gave them, to further their Agenda...:yes4:

yes, we are the nanny of the world , except we put ourselves in daycare. Food for africa, money to panama, troops to Iraq, ambassadors to Israel, to average american, just a letter from the IRS.

[scarletfire]

I spend lots of time with those "trapped" and I've come to the realization that many of these folks don't want to know truth but would rather keep their head in the sand. For example, I am not catholic and work at a catholic hospital. Lots of my co-workers are what I call "cradle catholics" which means they have been programmed from a very young age to believe and live what the program dictates. When I simply state that I can't get past the virgin birth, I get a target on my back and marked as a lost soul.....very frustrating. I work in an emergency dept and nobody believes the 13 year old gals that come in that promise that they haven't been "exposed" although this is the story that built the foundation of the whole institution. Mind boggling to me but the fact is that opening ones mind to alternative theory would be to have to acknowledge the fact that decades have been sacrificed to uphold ideals based on a bs premise, not easy to admit such a mistake. To admit that America is not the greatest country in the world shakes a similar foundation for those of us who have been programmed to believe that it is...by a long shot! Maybe it was at one time.....for example no blues music if not for America. Now it seems that the creativity that birthed such American accomplishments are being suppressed, that is what is causing us to loose our way. If we as a people could turn off the TV and tap in to our creativity, perhaps we could move forward....save our place in the global community become an intelligent thinking population.

[modwiz]

If you know how to help people who refuse help by all means write it up. Preparing ground for them to do what?



You asked me a question: How do we support the helplessly trapped.

And I answered. I didn't give you an answer you wanted.

I must protest, I don't want anything from you :) I appreciated your honest answer, I just felt like taking the baton were you dropped it and running on. Because in my view, as I said, you can still help those who do not want to be helped -- from a certain perspective. Of course you can never successfully take over their free will, but we don't want that anyways. But you can do something to prepare the ground for them as good as possible, that's what I wanted to point out, just meant to share this viewpoint.

@9eagle. C'mon try harder. You can dig holes for people to stick their heads into. :rolleyes:
@ Christian. Very compassionate. :frusty:

[9eagle9]

Why do I need to try harder when they don't try at all?

:lalala:

People dig their own graves; I don't have to dig for them.

[christian]

You don't need to try harder, you don't 'need' to do anything. I wouldn't demand anything from you. I'm open for extra efforts always. To me the question is not 'why work harder' but 'why not work harder'? Just my personal pov of course, I wouldn't demand to do the same from anybody.


If you know how to help people who refuse help by all means write it up. Preparing ground for them to do what?

When I focus on how stupid people are and that they will never make it, I feel like shutting doors to opportunities. I can realize the current situation and still focus on always being open to invite them to work with me on freeing ourselves and humanity. Being open merely ensures, that this door stays open, it does not push them a bit through, so this 'help' is just leaving my hand out there for them, physically, mentally, emotionally -- it's up to them if they grab it or not. When I mock them, I feel like moving away from them and pulling back and I don't want that. Treat people like they are and they get worse, treat them like they could be and they will grow, I heard. And after all, reaching out and building a house that would accomodate them as well, even if they don't work with me on it demands more effort from me and I'm not here to refuse to make an effort when it would open doors to positive opportunities. I am willing to do this extra effort for people who are asleep. I wouldn't do that for psychopaths who absolutely know what they're doing and who are purposefully behaving anti-social.

The only way, to directly help someone, who doesn't want to be helped, in the sense of making them do something, is tricking them. Like people are in a burning house but don't realize it and won't come out. So you tell them outside is a shiny new car or whatever they desire waiting for them. Heaven knows what would actually be achieved, when this makes them get out and realize, that there is no car. Maybe they look back and understand, that the house indeed was burning. Maybe they don't and get mad at you for lying to them.

[LarryC]

When I first replied to this post, I hadn't watched the video clip and I've never seen that show on HBO. After watching it, I would say that the first 2 minutes are accurate and the last minute is pure b.s. Many people have this romanticized view of the America of 50 or so years ago. There never was such a country. The following article is extremely mainstream and leaves out many important issues but it still does a good job at deconstructing this myth. It centers around the Andy Griffith show, which kind of symbolizes these idealized view of 1950s America.

http://nymag.com/news/frank-rich/declining-america-2012-7/

[Feren]

The 'Ironic' thing is Simple Human is that America Never Was or Ever Has been "The Greatest Country in the World"...:nono:

That is a (TAG) the Corporate Global Elite 'Puppetmasters' gave them, to further their Agenda...:yes4:

yes, we are the nanny of the world , except we put ourselves in daycare. Food for africa, money to panama, troops to Iraq, ambassadors to Israel, to average american, just a letter from the IRS.

I am not sure that I understand what you are trying to say. (Maybe because I am not a native english speaker).

Do you think that the U.S.A. sends troops to Irak, money to Panama and all that stuff FOR FREE? Someone must be getting a lot of profit, don't you think so?

Please, explain your point.

Cheers!

Ferén

[Cartomancer]

America went wrong the day Jimmy Carter took office. He was the first homogenized and truly owned president of the last fifty years. After him they were all the same no matter what party they were a member of. I'm sure the fix was in before that but at that point it started to become clear to me that there was no difference in the political parties and there was this underlying tone that the world would never be the same.

Back to those who wish to portray Americans as being snotty for using that name. Figure it out. The United States of America is the only country in the Americas to include the word 'America' in the name of its country. Half of you out there criticizing the US are still being ruled by some imperial jerk wad and you want to blame us for everything? The plot line for this B.S. was written long before the United States of America ever existed mostly by the same people that rule you.