Edward Leedskalnin's secret of the Pyramid Builders, Perpetual Power

[7redorbs]

(or the Magneto Pyra engine - translated to non engineering speak: the only fuel in this ancient device is magnetic substance recirculating perpetually like atoms)..

The following schematic I am sharing for the express means and purpose of liberating humanity from the slavery and slumber that it finds itselves.

Here we have a drive for a motor, that drives itself. With only one moving part there is a magneto flywheel which drives the ignition coil which provides voltage to the ignition timer (primary and secondary windings) which alternate the current in an electromagnet next to the magnetic flywheel, which causes the flywheel to spin. Note the spin of the flywheel is "self referential" like the orbits of planets, or magnets around the atoms. So the electricity that comes out of an atom is worth less than the infinite and perpetual magnetic orbit of electricity that exists within it. This hereby be known as the "atomic force" or "cosmic force". It is not electricity. Electricity is what happens when the perpetual orbits are broken by atomic force, in case of battery this is the acid pealing the annode or cathodes atoms, and thereby releasing the orbits that held them together. In the case of more advanced coil devices, such as the Tesla coil or condensor, an electric field is used to vary the atomic properties of a soft iron core, thereby causing similar internal atomic changes and storages by a more indirect yet sophisticated means,

As you can see mine and Leedskalnins device works like the atomic and gravitational orbits of planets, they are perpetually rotating and connected in the same channels.

This can be built and will provide perpetual A.C power like an atom, from only one battery start or stop. This will form the proof of what I have said all along, that the electricity in a battery is perpetually rotating around the acid and annode and cathode, and the electricity that leaves the atoms is no longer magnetically bound to a perpetual orbit.

My device and instructions for the first time show humanity how to keep the atomic magnets moving, in a large wheel, like they would in the atom, perpetually, and since the large wheel has magnets on it, then they can be used for energy generation purposes as well.


Again, I do not ask for anything. Again, even if there is little thanks,

http://conspiracy.co/leedskalnin3.PNG

Best,
A

Here is Leedskalnin with this device. He used it for power whilst he was constructing and living at Coral Castle, Homstead Florida, Enjoy. You won't find better information anywhere. It doesn't exist except for in the deepest recess of the secrets of King Solomon. You can find the secrets of solomon though encoded in the best masonic work at the Pennsylvania Masonic Grand Lodge, in the Norman Hall on the ceilings and in the walls. There you will see the same geometry and relationships as are in my schematic as is the arrangement of Leedskalnins device.

This translated means that Pennsylvania Grand Lodge Norman Hall Ceiling, The Leedskalnin device, and the Ford 1908 model T magneto flywheel and ignition drive schematic of mine.

They all go together.

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(Leedskalnin, Coral Castle, 1945, showing his device demonstrating the perpetual atomic movement, and it's ability of perpetual power in the right channels as discussed in his book Magnetic Current where he describes his 2 years of "experiments with magnetic current" at Coral Castle, what Leedskalnin refers to as "Rock Gate".)

Leedskalnin after years of being questioned why he would not reveal the secrets of the pyramid builders he terminally replied "If the world had unlimited power it would destroy itself". If leedskalnin did not create perpetual power, he certainly was a great man who built coral castle, and at least believed, and wrote in plain words in his book magnetic current that "perpetual motion holder device has the potential for perpetual power". I know that if perpetual power could exist in any form outside of the atoms perpetual movements then the only way to do that would be to create a machine that did would have to be like a large version of the atom. Leedskalnin does not hide this in his work either and he explains that magnetism is a perpetually moving substance in between the atomic metal's atoms, he suggest that the science and engineering minds are totally deluded by the "non existing electrons" and goes on to say that the magnetism is certainly not the magnet metal, but the substance that exists within it. Leedsklanin explains this is why one magnet can influence another.

In the case of my schematic I have shown the perfect and balanced way for another magnet to influence another, in that the magneto flywheel (power generator) powers the ignition and electromagnet that causes it to rotate.

Thus, this arrangement is exceptionally unique and specific making them EASY to put all together , not a difficult task even for even the "non engineer". As long as the human being is capable of understanding that all science and electronics is wrong, and there is no danger in not being an expert, since all experts are clue-less, and all electricity is NON PERPETUAL. The clue-less experts yet do not ask themselves why all that non perpetual orbiting electricity energy was created by 100% PERPETUAL ATOMIC ORBITS that if it wasn't for them creating the electricity would continue to orbit perpetually. This proves again that what is making electricity is much more potent than the electricity itself, and that whilst the electricity cannot continuously rotate a device, the atomic force is readily accepted by experts as the force that continuously causes their non existent electrons to rotate around perpetually.

If the electricity is not perpetual, and the atomic orbits no longer are perpetual inside the device, then they must have left and perpetually caused the rotation of atoms elsewhere.

[Cartomancer]

I really am fascinated by Coral Castle and Ed. He was a quirky character and seemingly knew some ancient hidden information. Some of the study I have done on Coral Castle indicates that the position or place it was built was important in a symbolic and possibly real physical way. This is why he moved Coral Castle after he had built it once. His calculations may have been slightly off so he moved it ten miles north. Here's a link to my movie about Coral Castle if you are interested. Thanks for this I just love this subject.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCUr7QCsz78

[7redorbs]

Cartomancer it is my pleasure. It is worth noting if I am right I may be endangering myself.

I think that the information I have presented above urgently requires your attention firstly and foremostly of all, if you are interested in the Coral Castle mystery then I have much information that is not publicly available anywhere, I have shared it up above, I hope you appreciate it

Best,
A

[Oouthere]

7redorbs,

Until you have a device that is working under its own power it is only theory. I am aware of no one that has built a working device. Numerous times I ran across what appeared to be solid theory for overunity and now having built built over a dozen different concepts have found none that work.

Please get your hands dirt and jump in the mix....

Rich

[7redorbs]

7redorbs,

Until you have a device that is working under its own power it is only theory. I am aware of no one that has built a working device. Numerous times I ran across what appeared to be solid theory for overunity and now having built built over a dozen different concepts have found none that work.

Please get your hands dirt and jump in the mix....

Rich

If you think you can do better (know more about A.C transformer theory, The history of R.C.A, Tesla Marconi, and 291,000 mile per second longitudinal wave's) there is a space below for you to describe.

If you do not, do not worry, I have many descriptions and working examples, and in time will describe why this device works in this thread. If you are not patient you can look in my other thread covering the R.C.A and Tesla Marconi suppression of FASTER THAN LIGHT longitudinal waves. Obviously I am refering to Tesla's and Marconi's magneto dielectrical system, used in both the PRE R.C.A Era Electrical systems and also in the Tesla Magnifying Transmitter - because you've tested everything and know all about this already I will not go on too much.

Do not worry, I am already building as fast as I physically can.

Best,
A

[GlassSteagallfan]

7redorbs,

Can you post a larger image? It's hard to read the one in your original post.

Thanks

[7redorbs]

Here you go

http://conspiracy.co/leedskalnin3.PNG

I also updated the original thread with a larger picture. Sorry about that,

Best,
A

[Kindred]

EXCELLENT WORK 7REDORBS! I can't wait to build it!

This will be after I've completed my current project - I hope to share it sometime soon, but, one can never tell what problems may arise.

This confims some of my own 'understandings' of how it operated, but I've never been able to visit the site, and I suspected it was tampered with over the years, if not completetely rearranged so as to confuse others.

THANK YOU for your dilligence and perseverance!

In Unity, Peace and Love

[seko]

I'm fascinated with all this energy concepts but I am a beginner in all this and need to be explained like if I was a 6 year old...... would it be possible to learn all this from scratch.. any suggestions???

I'm willing to learn this and create my own device.

Thanks 7redorbs.

[PHARAOH]

Thanks for the info. Be nice if we had a video of one being constructed.

:nerd::nerd::nerd:

[bluestflame]

next question , what did the pyrmid /generator/bunker power ?

[Oouthere]

I highly suggest people hold off and wait for 7redorbs to build it himself. I say this after spending over $10,000 and hundred's of hours on projects that work (but really don't). If you want to learn, please build it but I can almost guarentee it will not work. If it does, this will be the first.....

Rich

[7redorbs]

I highly suggest people hold off and wait for 7redorbs to build it himself. I say this after spending over $10,000 and hundred's of hours on projects that work (but really don't). If you want to learn, please build it but I can almost guarentee it will not work. If it does, this will be the first.....

Rich

I have told how it works, in this thread and the others. It recirculates the orbit of the perpetual atomic force found in the smallest atom, in a larger frame. Simple. I also spent at least an hour replying to your PM to try and explain the difference between fraud and coral castle, or Tesla & Steinmetz. It looks like this has been missed by you, to my disappointment, nonetheless my statements about the Alternating Current Transmission Line remain. The A.C transmission line pulls in the magnets from THIN AIR.

REPEAT.

THE A.C Transmission Line PULLS IN Magnets from THIN AIR. That is why the A.C transmission line is not losing voltage. Because at the "0 point" or "cross-point" between the A.C cycle + and - pole, the pressure is exactly 0, causing the surrounding magnets from the air to be pulled in.

What I have described and provided to you is a schematic that I believe is capable of doing this. Except the only difference is the magnets are pulled into the alternating current generator instead of the alternating current transmission line.

According to the foremost expert on Tesla, Eric Dollard, and also myself this will remain to be an advanced transmission line problem which consists of more than the MAGNETIC considerations of modern electronics today. Essentially though the seperation of the dielectric field from the magnetic in Maxwell Theory can alone account for the misconception of faith that is suffered by Rich here along with many corporate engineers. I myself have contracted for the ministry of defense and am distinctly aware of the barriers that exist between engineers, mathematicians and scientists. I am personally a musician and suffer none such bias. I do however suffer from the aggravation of "EXPERTS".

That is the Edward Leedskalnin adaptation of the model t ford 1908 magneto automobile. It's spark plug has NO BATTERY, NO DYNAMO Support. The technology is generally different to what you see in a car today, and, as you said in your pm to me that you were an aviation and AT &T engineer with over 12 years experience I thought you would immediately understand that the flywheels rotation alone is responsible for providing electricity to the ignition coil, but that the ignition coil is in fact driving the flywheel too. Therefore there is a system of antithesis at work here.

To the layman what this means is that the wheel is reicirculating it's current to drive itself, through the energy storage of it's movement from the pickup coil, to ignition's capacitor and to the electromagnet itself which further drives the PMH. We have 3 alternating current systems with a differential of dx/dt here as Eric Dollard and Steinmetz express in their work on Alternating Current. We see a system not unlike the T.M.T or Magnifying Transmitter developed by Tesla whereby the goal was to create a minimum of about 137% output per second, of the lineal input per second of the power supply.

My good friend is an ex nasa spacewatcher. He has a T.M.T working in Tandem resonance at 137% output of the input per second. There is nothing fictional about this.

My schematic is for a "T.M.T" like system, whereby instead of the transmission line sucking in magnets during the half-cycle, the generator is, but also it is receiving energy back from itself, at the superposition of the stop and starts of the electromagnet. This means that with the correct timing of ignition for electromagnet, and magneto flywheel, that the wheel is RECIRCULATING it's power in the same was as Tesla's T.M.T (>100% output of input PER SECOND). and, that 137% of output is fashioned back into the flywheel as an attraction or repulsion of the electromagnet , and, that 137% causes the generator, like the transmission line to pull in a greater number of magnets in the cross 0 pressure of the alternating current than it is expending.

What I seriously consider you do Rich is build a T.M.T that is capable of 137% amplification , or read Leedskalnins book Magnetic Current, or one of his other numerous publications, and, you will see it is as I have said, and, that your failures make no reflection of mine own, Tesla's or Leedskalnin's. Nor does your skepticism. It merely enrages me that people like yourself, unfortunately, will continue to preserve the delusion that is known as the electron for the next 100 years.

This is not a joke Rich, because unlike you, I have done some more research into this than you. Tesla actually said it himself. "reads like works fiction". That is the science you risk leaving us with.

It is simple. Atoms are perpetually moving. Chemically. That is why a conductor can convey electricity, because it has free gaps, in it's "so-called" recirculating "electrons". What is happening, I have discovered to be different. The electron is a [b] PRODUCTION and not a constituent part. This is akin to saying that the electron is a reflection, wheras the perpetually rotating atomic force that we have labelled the electron is the real force. This is of profound importance to humanity, as it actually proves that electron power is as Tesla describes. An utter work of fantasy and fiction. Electrons are produced by the destruction of atomic orbits. What produces the electrons move indefinitely (e.g. metals, or liquids of acid in the battery). The perpetual movement of those liquids and metals atom's is then converted into a NON PERPETUAL electricity, that is NOT endlessly moving, NOR is it endlessly moving the electron with a MASS.

E.g. [the atom and] everything in the universe is moving [an electron that has mass around it], indefinitely. Perpetually.

- Richard Feynman, Celebrated Nobel Physicist, and renowned author of the Feynman Lecture series and Q.E.D.

i.e. The electron is performing WORK.

e.g. The electron is the SECONDARY force. The PRIMARY force within the atom that causes the electron to spin indefinitely creates the SECONDARY FORCE. Since we see in chemical batteries that when the magnets leaves the atom it cannot run in an perpetual orbit anymore, and the energy is "converted" to other energies and orbits - like heat. In superconductors , the orbit is perpetual like in an atom, and so a superconductor works like my device here, and that is why it is special, because if a superconductor is able to orbit perpetually an alternating current, and if the alternating current really does pull in voltage at the 0 pressure point of the "middle" of each AC cycle, then we know for sure that a superconductors orbit in alternating cycles with <0% loss is capable of indefinitely pulling in the surrounding magnets and thus indefinitely providing power. Leedskalnin says that this "perpetual motion orbit" of superconductors, and magnets, is capable of "perpetual power".

His words too, not mine. It is not hard, knowing how is the trick.

I have shared it for free, so there can be no mistake about my intention,

Best,
A

[TargeT]

I'm sure your intention is good, but if you understand the story " The boy who cried wolf" you'll understand the hesitation in the responses to your idea here.

I too have wasted time and money perusing " over unity" devices and found nothing that was "satisfying".

One or two things give me a slight pause in reading your posts here in this thread, though perhaps English is a second language for you so Symantec analysis isn't as important.. However:


THE A.C Transmission Line PULLS IN Magnets from THIN AIR. That is why the A.C transmission line is not losing voltage. Because at the "0 point" or "cross-point" between the A.C cycle + and - pole, the pressure is exactly 0, causing the surrounding magnets from the air to be pulled in.


Why did you choose to use "magnets" or "causing surrounding magnets from the air to be pulled in"...... Magnetism, electricity (and gravity) all seem to be tied together and inseparable; if you are "pulling magnets from the air" then you are pulling electricity with it, there is a ton of potential energy everywhere so I can see the base concept for what it is; I just have an issue with how you worded that.

I too am looking into Coral Castle & think I have a pretty good grasp (though little to NO technical details) on how he accomplished what he did, but I will have to compare my notes with your post in more detail to see if the two agree, until then I think you may find this video useful as it covers this topic with some very interesting findings:


Ancient knowledge pt4
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and the teaser for the next part:
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Now, Let me dig more into your first post :)

[7redorbs]

No offence TargeT, I think if you knew more than me about this, you wouldn't have asked me why I stated that magnets are pulled in by an A.C transmission line.
The reason why I state this is because the man who built Coral Castle, namely Edward Leedskalnin states it to be so in his book Magnetic Current. As does he state in his publications about the atomic force in newspapers, that his books and the publications, go together.

So to answer your question, I state "magnets" because I am quoting Leedskalnin directly. I have also read all of his publications and books. It is important that you do this,

Whilst I appreciate that you have wasted much time in fruitless efforts, as have many physicists, Leedskalnin was quick too to point this out in the scientists "non existing electrons". I add that whilst again you and many other peoples efforts may be fruitless, both mine and Leedskalnins efforts have not been, and the proof of that is merely in performing the experiments as written in his books.

It is to be understood that the chemical battery is merely producing an electrical orbit from an atomic orbit, and that whilst the atomic orbit would have run in the atom bound perpetually, the electrical orbits do not, there is heat, there is resistance, and where there is resistance there is no orbit. So Leedskalnin makes it clear that guiding magnets and their orbits in the right path, and that a magnet is really a perpetually orbiting substance inside the metal magnet that is moving at very high speed, as a perpetual motion. And, how he points out specifically that the perpetual motion of the magnetic substance he speaks of, can be converted into perpetual power in a generator. Leedskalnin even goes on to describe his "best generator" in his book. The reason becomes clear why the Ford 1908 Model T Magneto flywheel was used in the build of Leedskalnins flywheel A.C generator, since it provided the alternating current required to convert the perpetual motion into perpetual power, and, that it's "SWEET 16" Mimics perfectly the shape of a magnet.

You do know that Agnes is not a person. Sweet 16 is a cryptogram. I worked for British Forces, as a programmer, so I am not unfamiliar with crypto.

Agnes is leaving out first letter M and 6th letter T of MAGNETS. So whenever LEedskalnin is talking about Agnes and his Sweet 16. He is really talking about Agnes, and the Ford 1908 Model T Magneto Flywheel.

I've done my research. I shared this because I wanted to share it. Again I must point out regardless of yours and others failures, and delusions, mine and Leedskalnins successes and beliefs are the same. I do not believe anything I am unable to prove, and that is why it is important to do the experiments to realise that electrons do not exist. They come AFTER the acid and metal atoms interact in the battery. This is proof that the electrical force is secondary to the primary force that is responsible for it. This of course negates all known existing science on MAXWELL FIELD THEORY since it is a substance with a SOUND pressure and not a FIELD with an amplitude. Leedskalnin makes this clear as he refers to the "SOUND BASE" right to begin with on page 1 of MC.

Ed called it the Cosmic force, and this is about all I have to say on the matter, I hope that is enough



Best,
A

[TargeT]

Oh I certainly do not claim to know more than you; I've just spent some time on this fascinating topic.

I've read "magnetic Current" and think its more of a coded book than a strait forward text, the key of which is this:

http://www.paranormalawarenesssociety.org/Coral%20Castle%20Ed%20Magnetic%20Current%20Book.jpg

http://www.world-mysteries.com/coral_2cclue.gif

http://www.world-mysteries.com/coral_pat1.gif

I found this an interesting analysis on the book also:


I did some research into Coral Castle in 2004 and came up with a few revelations regarding what Leedskalnin was possibly doing and what the sweet sixteen really was.

There is a disk hanging up in his workshop, very faded now, but I could still decipher the markings in photoshop, once I pulled the contrast and levels.

It was basically a translucent plastic disk, with a horizon line drawn on it, and a path showing the angle of the sun and moon. I noticed around the outside that there were increments (degrees) and that he had marked the 16th degree point with a marker or something.

What I think he was doing, was charting the passage of the moon and sun, and waiting for the sweet spot, when both the sun and moon were on the same side (the gravity pull is less).

In his "Book in every home" it is widely accepted that he left one page blank opposite each page of text, and invites the reader to basically work out the coded message within that book.

I call it the sweet 16 code, because I figured out that it might be a 16-base code (see image below)

He also states that the sweet sixteen is not a girl, but a "new one". I think he is meaning a new moon, as the female energy is usually the moon.

This might have been one of the keys to his manipulation of gravity.

http://www.antigravitymovie.com/disk.jpg

http://www.antigravitymovie.com/book.jpg

Best
James


Just trying to learn and clarify ;)

[7redorbs]

http://www.conspiracy.co/forums/attachments/main-wall/1169d1336576516-edward-leedskalnins-sound-base-cracked-world-me-forever-cc.jpg

http://www.conspiracy.co/forums/content/attachments/131d1305425400-ed2.jpg



"Contrary to popular relief, the Tesla transformer is not a steady state device but is a magnifier of transient phenomena. If all parts of the system are designed properly the EMF and hence dielectric flux jumps from zero to an enormous value almost instaneously, thereby producing an almost inconceivable displacement current into space. The transformer is then basically a evice for rapidly discharging the capacitor bank nearly instantly into free space, producing an enormous dielectric shock wave similar to a sonic boom." - Eric Dollard


http://www.conspiracy.co/forums/content/attachments/133d1305425408-ed3.jpg



"Because the dissipation of the transformer is for all practical purposes negligible, the energy keeps increasing at a linear rate per cycle of oscillation, thereby accumulating a gigantic quantity of electrical energy. " - Eric Dollard



I created these some time ago. I am familiar with Mr J. Stride and we do talk, notice I do not have a copyright logo. Also quite familiar with Jon Depew's work. Haven't seen a schematic from him though.



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Best,
A

[7redorbs]

An original Publication of mine originally at: http://www.conspiracy.co/forums/main-wall/12534-eric-dollard-tesla-sbarc-longitudinal-wave-energy-ham-radio-chris-carson.html

In the following Video, Eric Dollard, the worlds renowned and foremost expert in the Tesla Technology explains and demonstrates the Longitudinal Wave, Longitudinal Dielectric Phenomenon, Unexplained pressures, and new science in this absolutely riveting demonstration and lecture at SBARC.

Eric Dollard discusses the different type's of wave currents that can exist, direct (flat horizontally), impulse (curved asytotically getting small), saw, (triangular) and longitudinal (entirely flat vertically). Eric Dollard explains , from basics the dimensional representation of waves, and how they are used in the conceptions by the great Nikola Tesla.

Eric Dollard goes on to give the speed of wave forms as pi / 2 * C, when a man from the audience is unable to accept that longitudinal waves of the old Marconi System are described by Eric as traveling at the speed of 291,000mi/sec. Eric Dollard talks about the longitudinal wave in detail, and unlike all other Tesla researchers not only provides the engineering algebra, but has created much of it himself studying Tesla's work for well over 30 years now, he truly is a trove of information. The author has learnt everything he knows that is astonishing, good, and worth while from this man, and the author cannot emphasise the importance of supporting this work.

Eric Dollard explains transverse waves, or sinusoidal waves travel over space and time, but the longitudinal wave travels per time, and that there is a 105,000mi/sec difference between the speed of light and the speed of a longitudinal wave (Dollard). Eric reveals things like the waves emitted by the moon are Longitudinal in type, and as a result are not visible until they reflect off mass , like the moon, or the earth's atmosphere, creating transverse light at light speed, what Einstein called a constant. Eric Dollard, as pointed out by the member of the audience, and Nikola Tesla's work diverges from what is considered working science.

It is most likely that the work that Tesla did is now of defence interest and is classified, in some cases unfairly and without a properly due cause, but in Eric Dollards case he has time and time again demonstrated the engineerability of devices, and has even helped people such as Chris Carson (featured in the video) create a parametric transformer, which they named the rotary electrostatic transformer.

Unfortunately Chris Carson is no longer with us, god rest his soul. The author asks the reader to take with absolute seriousness the following video's, less humanity lose a great technology along with the only great man the author knows that could liberate us all. ALL OF US.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhuSn6sc7sc&feature=relmfu


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64yKW9FSsBY&feature=relmfu


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5ZWrjcrPl4&feature=relmfu


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lqMiZPO9TM&feature=relmfu


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsrbaCJo3Qw&feature=relmfu


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwu8rspxQWE&feature=relmfu

Eric Dollard Tesla Longitudinal Wave Energy SBARC Ham Radio with Chris Carson

Key Notes:

High RPM is the key to Telsas energy devices.

Who to study: (please correct spellings and give links):
Steinmeitz
Kennelley
Heavyside
Maxwell
Faraday
Buelle
McFalren (mathemetician, Austin, TX)

CW everyday 7.037 morning 7.137 evening

2-meters isnt good for your face. Causes eye-cataracts.
Cell-phone 15-minute exposure causes mutation in radish seeds


6105195/7129

291-186 = 105
105-195 = -90

[TargeT]

6105195/7129

291-186 = 105
105-195 = -90

I think these numbers are more complex, for example:

It's important to remember that there are 24 magnets used, the angles of the magnets are 15* in a 360* circle.

This is from memory:

The first 24 prime numbers are : 2, 3, 5, 7, 11, 13, 17, 19, 23, 29, 31, 37, 41, 43, 47, 53, 59, 61, 67, 71, 73, 79, 83, 89. (add them together, position 1 (2) is added to nothing, position 2(3) has two additions 2+3, position 3 has three additions 2+3+5, position 4 has 4 additions 2+3+5+7 ETC... ) the sequence of prime sums is:

2, 5, 10, 17, 28, 41, 58, 77, 100, 129, 160, 197, 238, 281, 328, 381, 440, 501, 568, 639, 712, 791, 874, 963


7 129

This is present in the other number as well, I got this info from the following video starting at 11:50:
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Could you take a look at that and let me know what you think? its a short section with the math & angles (in reference to the fly wheel).

[silvervioletrubie]

The proof is in the pudding......

I would like to ask of those folks reading this post......has anyone been able to replicate any of the you tube videos or diagrams that indicate perpetual motion with out human or lined electrical current input?

I have my own list I am trying to get through......just wondering if someone has one they can steer me towards that was successful for them.. The simpler the better, lets leave the complicated schemes to the folks that like things that way.....

The answer is always love!!

[Spiral]

Dear readers, its a good Idea to copy all relevant text & diagrams from this thread, so the info cannot be so easily lost & to protect the author.

[Oouthere]

Silvervioletrubie,

This is exactly how true research needs to be approached. I've been to free energy conferences and people throw-out all sorts of equations to prove theirs is right, not one was overunity. Even when you do see good numbers, they have to be proven in real world. I've built one that showed about 1,200 watts in and 3,600 watts out....it was not usuable power, only created and balanced power (rotoverter). People had even accused me of hiding free energy.

But in regards to your question, I have not been able to test any that worked as stated. Even lost a few thousand dollars on a stock investment concerning free energy.

Off the top of my head, I can tell you a few that do not work: Tom Bearden's MEG (fellow researcher drove to his house and saw it did not work), Bidini's overunity designs (I've built several of his designs), wankel magnet motor, Gary Effect Motor, Jakel motor, Joe Cell (I've built three different versions, may only work in Australia), Morentz generator (spelling?), water lift systems, orgone generators to power combustion engines, hydrogen boost systems (at least on a 2006 Dodge Cummins)....and however many more I've forgotten about in the last 25 years.

You will find people lie about their results, hold their feet to the fire. Too many resources (time and material) are wasted duplicating failed attempts. I'm currently working on revision #8 of a Robert Alexander motor/generator....it has never produced anywhere near overunity even though the patent states it does. Do not believe everything you read.

Rich

[Oouthere]

There is one theory that does hold water....that people in the beginning of the 20th century were unknowingly using radioactive materials in their experiments or they were near by and the coils were interactig and this would account for why the experimetns cannot be duplicated. That makes sense.....

Rich

[Ammit]

OK, So the magnetics are under a sort of vacuum. Keeping everything stable but moving,, weired, but love it if I have grasped the concept....

[7redorbs]

This article provides a rock solid ANCIENT Egypt/African heritage that can be traced back before them, to the Pyramid Builders. This is providfed with the evidence and identical symmetry present in Sankofa, the Sankofa heart, and Leedskalnins Symbol for Magnetic Current.

This is a direct historical connection to the claims of Edward Leedskalnin, and they cannot be muddied by the claims of any self-appointed aforementioned so-called expert opinion.

People are not educated if they are willing to believe in things they are unable to prove. I believe that I have proven Electrons do not exist, and that electrons come from the atomic and magnetic perpetual orbits. This is a profound statement. I have provided evidence, and experiments. So has Leedskalnin. This should be taken seriously, since, it is not my claim, but the claim of the builder of the Coral Castle complex as written in his book Magnetic Current.

Do you want to make a liar out of both me and Edward Leedskalnin? Do not do this. They did this to Tesla. They did this to Wilhelm Reich. They did this to Dollard. They did this to Chris Carson. 2 Of them died in FBI custody. One of them of brain cancer shortly after inventing the electrostatic rotary transformer with Dollard.

The R.C.A Suppression, the "electromagnetic" and "electron" farce is a GRIM REALITY that we face as humanity that essentially is prevented the revolution of technology and social evolution of the new Babylon. The rich, the wealthy and the influential, the military, and the government have sought since about 1915 to control the power, influence and technology of Radio and Electrical systems. The advent of the electronic system marked the entire deletion of faster than light propogating electrical waves. Tesla's geodynamic's, and NON HERTZIAN oscillating current. Things like motors that run of your hand alone would sound like witchcraft, but such things really existed.

Things such as devices capable of commanding the lightning and weather, existed, in the laboratory of Nikola Tesla, shortly before it was destroyed in fire. Worry not, Tesla demonstrated these inventions to crowds of people.

Do you know anyone who can do that today?

No? Then you must be becoming readily familiar with what is known as the R.C.A Firewall. The Longitudinal Wave suppression mechanism of the American Government of the Bolinas Tesla Marconi Wireless System, and the general truth as recorded by Radio History is in fact heavily distorted and in some cases entirely missing from account . Such reasoning can become readily obvious in the defense and strategic functionality of a working parametric transformer. This is something that absolutely terrified the Americans. And so the patent monopoly R.C.A was formed, and Marconi Wireless was no-more. The bi-wave magneto dielectric system employed by the MArconi Wireless of longitudinal waves of 291,000 miles per second, and transverse sinusoidal waves of 186,000miles per second was forever forgotten. Replaced by scientists quacking that the very possibility of such a thing is ludicrous, regardless of the fact that the very communications technology, some of which is still in place today at Bolinas, was transmitting electrical propogations in a fashion more advanced than any known public electrical system today.

Repeat, the CIRCA 1910 Marconi Wireless System at Bolinas was MORE ADVANCED than any public electrical system today. Repeat. Parts of it still exist, including the ground antennae system.

All good scientists and engineers of course know that radio waves cannot be received without an aerial or reception through the air. The Tesla system of course employed the ground. All scientists know it is of course impossible to receive radio transmissions t hrough the ground, as Tesla claimed it was so with his "PERFECT" Wardenclyffe system. Except here below in the video we have Eric Dollard demonstrating this system working.

The only way it could ever possibly work against the ministry and laws of the religion of science, would be if the magneto dielectric system and field considerations employed by Tesla, the pre R.C.A marconi plant, and Dollard were evidently important in the cross-field relationships of a SEPARATED ANTITHESIS of the magnetic and dielectric field; or rather these two propogation constants of transverse radio propogations of 186,000miles per second at the speed of light bore a resemblence to a different longitudinal wave that exists seperately in antithesis, as the dielectric countepart, which afterall is what allows this "Impossible Ground Antennae" to work.

It is interesting to note the only way this Aerial could work is if the dielectric and magnetic field were SEPERATE. Maxwell considers this unnecessarily complicated, because Heaviside has raped the mathematical equations. To put it bluntly, the maxwell equations, they are not how they used to be. LITERALLY. They were changed by Oliver Heaviside some short duration before he went entirely insane, painted his fingernails pink, and replaced all his furniture with granite slabs.

For those of you that were paying attention and are puking blood - at the very notion that some as scientists and professional engineers could have ever been fooled or misled. History, and truth are not alike in the same way that the original maxwell equations are not the same as the ones that we are left today. Specifically the ignored difference between the magnetic and dielectric components in the later maxwell theory adopted by all scientists today as accepted-truth is the very thing that can account for the effects employed in Tesla's MAgnifying Transmitter System, and indeed the very same faster-than-light propogation constants exhibited by Tesla's OC T.M.T technology and Edward Leedskalnins CFA & CCD antennae's and flywheel system. Particularly assymetry is key.

In any case the only thing the scientist , skeptic, or engineer needs to understand to work with Dollard, Tesla's and Steinmetz A.C Method of representing waves is to understand that the magnetic component is not necessarily identical to the dielectric field, and specifically the magnetic field is not a static line of force, but a high speed recirculating substance that is capable of generating a current. The current stays there forever in my electromagnet, and I can leave it for months holding some peice of metal, with no battery, and when I pull off the metal, the current released is just as strong as it was before. This proves that the current is orbiting around the transformer perpetually, and so we have one half of the requirement of perpetual power, an atomic orbit that can indefinitely provide energy to work against gravity.

That old scientific saying MAGNETS CANT DO WORK.

I'm not impressed with it, so scientists do not expect my sympathy!! You have none for me and also none for yourself, for had you listened to the repeated mentions that the dielectric and magnetic field should not be considered IDENTICAL and STATIC fields as in MAXWELL Version 2, it would become more obvious as to what I was saying. I am using a magnetic system to build up a dielectric charge per second that is over 100 percent of the total input from the magnetic system per second. This in turn causes a large spike, and when that output per second spike is connected , let me put it this way - when the drive of the engine output gearbox is reconnected back to the input of the engine, the engine blows up, if it is mechanical, it is not possible, but my schematic shows a way to do it, and the key is understanding the importance of dielectric storage, and how magnetic (magneto) energy was derived by Edward Leedskalnins flywheel into a dielectric component capable of driving the flywheel further around in a perpetual magnetic orbit akin to the pumping of a heart.

And so the adaptation of the ford 1908 model t is merely replacing the GAS CYLINDER ENGINE with an ELECTROMAGNET that sits next to the magnetic flywheel which alternates it poles at high speed. The alternating ELECTROMAGNET poles are varied by the flywheel, but the flywheel is also being driven by the ELECTROMAGNET. The dielectric energy stored in the ignition system, instead of sparking a spark plug is providing the 20,000volt impulses to the electromagnet, and so instead of combusting the gas like in the 1908 ford model t magneto, Leedskalnin found a way to use it using MAGNETS ONLY.

I merely provided enough evidence to make it absolutely incontrovertible in fact.

http://www.conspiracy.co/forums/content/53-secrets-pyramid-builders-edward-leedskalnin-continued-modulo-step-operations.html

Best,
A

[TargeT]

7redorbs, you sound very convinced that this system works & allude that you have done it yourself, do you have any working electrostatic rotary transformers?

I would be more than willing to build something like this myself, Mr Dollard's talks are very interesting, I'm lightly involved with radio's and know a few HAMS that have some of the more advanced certs as well as working with Army radio specialists that could lend what ever hertzian knowledge I may need.


Is the diagram you posted on the first page just for conceptualization or have you built working models from this?

[Lost Soul]

Let's hope it's proven with a working model and that a better diagram and components list is made. If everyone had their own, it's a game changer as oil, coal and other fuels will be obsolete. We will be in for a dramatic paradigm shift and the PTW will be the POP (pissed off people).

[spiritguide]

7redorbs, thank you for this thread and the information within. While working with these theories, somehow the aspect of the energies inherent in quartz crystals keeps jumping out. Sharing hunch that is all.

[meat suit]

7redorbs,
this kind of stuff is always really interesting, like a few guys here, I have invested considerable time and money in over unity stuff and got nowhere.
that said, like you, I also viciously defended the potential of the devices while I was believing in them.....:p
your setup looks simple to build, but I would need a more detailed diagram or better a video tutorial (its the fashion now..) before I could get exited enough to throw some time at this. I would though....

[bennycog]

this thread is going to have to be a favourite of mine.. thanx to all who are adding to it..
and i hope it makes a few heads turn a little more into action..
'cheers'

[TargeT]

I like the Eric Dollard stuff, he's the kinda super geek I wish I had as a friend ;)

Here's some of the info I found on Dollard

http://www.borderlands.com/dollardandtesla.htm


This one is a goldmine that includes material as new as 2011:

This page will be a resource directory for all things Eric Dollard Related. My aim is to create the single most comprehensive resource on the internet for material on Mr. Dollard. Eric is coming out now for the first time in 2 decades and releasing a lot of information that will change everything. His theories and ideas stemming from the works of Tesla, Steinmetz and Heaviside will revolutionize the field of physics & electrical engineering. In my opinion this man is smarter than Albert Einstein. You have to be in order to so eloquently debunk Einsteins theory of relativity. Please read The Work of Eric Dollard by Tom Brown for a brief summary into his research
http://www.gestaltreality.com/energy-synthesis/eric-dollard/

An interesting talk:
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etc... this should keep me busy for a while.. haha.

Misconceptions on electricity (2007 talk)
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[Cartomancer]

I wish you well in your quest to reconstruct Ed's magnet machine! I wouldn't worry about anyone bothering you. Keep us up to date on your progress and shoot some video! I'm excited for you.

[7redorbs]

You have done well TargeT! These are good lectures that cover some of the phenomenon i have witnessed first hand from these apparatus,

Best,
A

[13th Warrior]

Wow! A lot of information to chew on here; i need some time to go over what's been presented so far...

I have an initial question though for 7redorbs, looking at your schematic it would appear to me that the two magnetic field created by the opposing coils driven by the ignition coil would cancel each other out; unless they where fired at separate intervals?

[TargeT]

You have done well TargeT! These are good lectures that cover some of the phenomenon i have witnessed first hand from these apparatus,

Best,
A

the concept of dieletric instead of eletric, the fact that magnets do not push echother way (same pole repulse) from eachother, they PULL themselfs away from eachother... Gravity being a function of a pressure differential in cosmic rays (neutrino's etc..) is also something I always figured, he also says that due to this fact ALL planets have to be hollow (which Nassim Hariem also agree's with his "black hole" ideas).

Dieletric running on the "skin" of wires, not the core of them... (this is how Tesla could hold a lightbulb and have it light with no harm to himself) .. Lots of interesting stuff here.
I'm watching the misconceptions of electricity again trying to absorb all this info, fascinating stuff.

[7redorbs]

Well done Target. Your grace, efforts and attention to detail are to be commended. Keep on trucking!


Best,
A

[Oouthere]

Electrons running on the skin of wires is taught in basic electricity class, that's why some wires are steel on the inside and copper on the outside (in order to save money). If you are talking about this picture of Tesla (http://www.cosmolearning.com/images_dir/education/photos/302.jpg) holding a lighted bulb, it has nothing to do with electrons running on the skin. That is a gas filled bulb and is a completely different principal. Here's another photo showing http://www.doobybrain.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/richard-box.jpg lighting the same manor.

I will agree with planets being hollow, this practically has to be the case to account for continental drift. What still baffles me is how the core can still be running at a different speed than the crust for so many millions of years. Even with a minor amount of friction the two should eventually run at unity but of course this would also kill off the magnetic sphere of protection we enjoy....some things are a bit difficult for a redneck to understand.

[13th Warrior]

Check it out!

What do you think? Is this a legitimate demonstration of what's been discussed on this thread?

It is quite possible that the circuit is being driven off camera by a wireless tesla coil?

Anyway, It'll be cheap and easy enough to try on my own to verify...

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[Oouthere]

I've built a similar circuit that was stated to work, still have the parts laying around. Mine did nothing, but it's possible for circuits to pick-up the field coming off high voltage power lines. At least one person found this to be true. Farmers in the old days would get caught placing coils next to the high tension powerplant lines and powering their house....lol

Rich

[13th Warrior]

Another interesting demonstration:

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I've built a similar circuit that was stated to work, still have the parts laying around. Mine did nothing, but it's possible for circuits to pick-up the field coming off high voltage power lines. At least one person found this to be true. Farmers in the old days would get caught placing coils next to the high tension powerplant lines and powering their house....lol

Rich

Did you use a strong neodymium magnet?

[TargeT]

a 3000 watt generator would surely have raised some eyebrows if it were functional... I hate to be a skeptic, but I just don't think something like this is possible... not that easily done nor that easily "shown" to be done..

[7redorbs]

- This is an Amateur peice by myself, on the discussion of Electricity, Energy, Gravity & Conveyance of Energy, and provides basic abstracts of the Atomic Force, the derived energy of atomic force and the part that magnetism and it 90 degre right hand twist seems to play in the perpetual orbits of atom's, planets, and their conveyance of power by electrical means,

This piece is about the two sides of planetary action. The first side is the scientific opinions, theories and facts, and the other side is the alternative theory that works the same as the science and gets the same results.

The planets gravity, and their rotations around eachother, it is fair to say that the right hand rule law applies to the 90 degree lineal speed of 100% causing an orbiting speed of the gravity well of perpetual kind. But it is also truer to say that it is the timing of the orbits themselves that is responsible for keeping the lineal velocity. If a large object were to sit in between the gravity of a planet and obstruct the gravity from reaching it's satellite then the force that once attracted the satellite now is using it's force to attract the obstruction, and so the satellite orbit is liberated from the planets "gravitation". Here we see that the perpetual motion of an orbiting satellite is not purely caused by gravitation or it's lineal velocity, but the path that was of the least obstruction between so-called strong gravitational objects and their satellites was the cause of the force.

So whilst it is true to say the lineal velocity of the satellite in a straight line fashion, and the pull of gravity at a right angle to that motion will give rise to an orbit provided that the lineal velocity is great enough to account for the right angle "gravity" pull. It is important to note that it is equally true to say that an obstruction between the planet and it's satellite causes a push on the orbit of the planets satellite, and a lack of obstruction (a free path) causes a pull of orbit. This is proof for sure that whilst it was true to say scientifically the satellite's perpetual orbit was maintained by a constant lineal velocity at right angle to plane of gravity, it is also truer and fairer to say that the timing of the rotation of each planets north and south pole planes and the obstruction of one of the poles by things in between planets cause an inversion of the active pole. And so it is fair to say that it is the South pole that is keeping the moon satellite in it's orbit, and, that any obstruction between the two causes an extra pole, which causes the moon satellite to receive the opposite magnetic pole (field) of what it would have otherwise without the obstruction. This is proof for sure that whilst it was true to describe the constant lineal motion of the satellite relative to the gravity plane, what was truer was that the poles push and pull, and that the formation of new currents of polarity between an obstruction of the satellite causes an inversion of the active pole. This is why it must be true that if the moon was to be turned 180 degrees or one half rotation, then it's south pole will be pushing on the north pole of the earth, and so there will be an attraction.

As I have described how gravity can be alternatively described, I should also tell about how the moon satellites gravity has been scientifically found to move the billions of trillions of watts of current in the oceans on the planet earth. This large current is simply obtained by the motion of the moon relative to the flat plane of the earth per time. The ocean is a lineal conductive mass of connected atoms entirely continuously connected via a network of current systems. In the same way that the distance of the planet, or strength of the gravity is determined, the same applies to the local north and south poles. This is why it can be said for sure to say that lineal motion perpendicular to a flat plane of single gravity is equal to missing out that the lineal motion perpendicular to the flat plane is only a perpetually maintainable orbit when there exists no obstruction between the strong gravity of a planet or sun, and it's satellites.

This means that it is not the lineal motion of the satellite alone that is causing the orbit any more than science's non existent single-force gravity pull and that it is the north and south pole that is responsible for gravity, and, that when an obstruction of the earth's north pole forms between it's moon then the obstruction closest to the earth forms an opposite pole to the earth, and the furthest point of the obstruction forms an opposite pole to it's nearest. So if the earth is north pole, the obstruction nearest the earth is south pole, the obstruction furthest the earth is the north pole, and that is why the satellite would move away. Not because gravity cannot get through, but because the obstruction inverted the poles when it sat in between two electrostatic objects. This is the best work of Nikola Tesla and Edward Leedskalnin and Eric Dollard. You can read about it in their books but you will not find information this detailed.

It is important to go away after reading this text - knowing for sure that lineal motion and a single force of gravity cannot explain perpetual stable orbits of planets and suns. The alternative way to properly explain those perpetual stable orbits and gravity is undertaken by the magnetic pole recirculation, and obstructions in that circulation create new poles, which are responsible for the abscence of normal gravity, and not the obstruction itself. This is akin to saying it is the manner in which objects obstruct existing orbits and their poles, and the formations of the poles in between that are responsible for the governing forces that create gravity. This basically means that gravity pull is a secondary force that arises as relative interaction - the gravity and the light itself are secondary - and that the thing that makes them up can be explained like poles akin to the way in which the energy storage system of Nikola Tesla's Tesla Magnifying Transmitter uses a 3 coil system to invert the direction of 2 pole fields to create "true monopolar" electricity. This is done in the same way as Edward Leedskalnin did it in his flywheel, and in the same way that the planets are creating the push and pull of their gravity. The obstruction between determines if there is a push or a pull. There is no such thing as abscence of gravity, because gravity is caused by the poles, and so gravities effect or diminished effect is determined by the presence of one pole or another in the same way the magnification effect of the Tesla MAgnifying Transmitter apparatus is determined by the inter-modal inversion of north and south pole currents, and, the 3 lump set of 2 poles in 3 coils, or 3 planets - e.g. a satellite, a planet, and an obstruction between, represent the same movement of forces of energy as eachother. Meaning gravity and electrical systems can be described purely in polar means.

This should not be readily believed by the expert or the layman. Quickly to be checked by seeing that energy extraction in nuclear power plants is done by a turbine that has north and south pole magnets in should be proof enough. Quickly checking you will find the same thing in the Coal Power Plants - the turbine, that has the magnets in. You will find the same thing in any electrical generation system. You will find the north and south pole magnets in the ford 1908 flywheel system, this is used to fire the petrol ignition of the motor without a battery or a dynamo. The only generator in the ford model T is the engine's spinning magneto. (Magnets next to spinning coils or reverse). You will find the same north and south pole magnets in the electrical motor, these are created by a running electrical current at the right hand twist, or 90 degrees, like the gravity and the lineal motion of the satellite the same relationship exists between the wire and the transformer core for generated polar magnetism. As you can see all of the electricity that is made is being made by the north and south pole in the same way. At the nuclear power plant, at the coal plant, and in the engines of your car, and their dynamo's, all of the electricity is being made the same, with rotating magnets. The planets are like power plants too, and, just like the flywheel, the mass of a planet, and it's speed of rotation store energy. As I have explained about how gravity and electrical energy is stored and conveyed as north and south pole at the right angle twist - I do not need to tell you what or how the earth is storing it's energy.

What I do need to tell you is that the electricity can only be made by the magnets. The magnetism can only be made by electricity. Electricity can only be made with energy, but no energy can be made at all without mass. Before the turbines at the nuclear and coal station get their hot excited steam particles to spin their magnets around next to the coil to generate the electricity from their magnetic poles - an atomic reaction occurs. The coal is burnt, and perpetual orbiting electrons are released at high speed. When the nuclear rods heat the water, it is because they too are releasing their atomic orbits at extreme speeds, and that these atomic orbits have energy. The only way that is scientifically and factually established of processing both of these energies into significant electrical power is with the use of magnets.

Niagra Falls, Hydroelectric - north and south pole magnets. Wind-Turbine's, north and south pole magnets. Now I have proven inductively for sure that electricity and energy is only conveyed by the north and south pole magnetic force. That the production of electricity from any atomic reaction be it coal, or nuclear radiation being discharged at high speed into water to drive a turbine - there is always the turbine, the north and south pole spinning magnet that is deriving the energy - and this is the way in which the planets are working as well. That is my revelation of Alchemy.

There is more proof to that light can only be form by magnets of north and south pole being obstructed. The only way a light bulb will light is if a high pressure voltage current is applied to a wire with a very small radius comparatively - this forms an obstruction to the running current and the north and south pole magnets are released from the wire at high speed. This causes heat at first (infra red), and after a very short time (in modern light bulbs fractions of miliseconds) the light becomes higher frequency visible light. If the width and assymetry of the filament is altered further and the pressure (voltage) increased further an entire manner of harmful radiations ensue. Dangerous work to say the least. Like it is dangerous to be too near to a nuclear radioactive source, and like it is dangerous to be too near the sun. So you can see that light is only created by obstruction's in the same way that the lack of gravity is caused by a presence of obstruction between any single planetary body of 2 poles or more. The only way to generate the electricity is to use the north and south pole magnetism in the turbines, while the only way to generate light with the electricity is to reduce the mass of the filament, and create an obstruction to the ampere current, causing the wire to leak it's magnet's and create light in the same way that the earth creates the aurora borealis from it's north and south pole recirculating magnets interact with the north and south poles of the running sun. (so, the earth has perpetual motion magnetic orbits and other north and south pole forces from the sun is interacting with them to create light, and all sorts of forces like mountains.)

This is how it works. This work is dedicated to E.D.L, E.D, C.P.S, T.T.Brown, N.T, W.R & Wheatstone.

Best,
A

[Oouthere]

13th Warrior,

Very interesting video. I've ran across these guys before and not a single replication to be found. I just looked for about two hours again and still found no replication. They will gladly send you plans (that you are instructed not to build) if you donate $200 though.

I've spent $40 per piece on magnets that are rated to hold 300lbs, about 12 of them I still have.

Rich

[13th Warrior]

13th Warrior,

Very interesting video. I've ran across these guys before and not a single replication to be found. I just looked for about two hours again and still found no replication. They will gladly send you plans (that you are instructed not to build) if you donate $200 though.

I've spent $40 per piece on magnets that are rated to hold 300lbs, about 12 of them I still have.

Rich

Hi Rich,

I don't doubt that what they are doing is legitimate...the guy doing the demo says that the generator makes just barely enough power to run the motor that's driving the generator. The end result being that the unit is only capable of running one piece of equipment at a time (without a load).

I wouldn't waste my money on their plans; since i don't think they have a useful machine at this time but, it does demonstrate some potential...the fact that the motor/generator combination continue to run without a continuous power supplied would indicate that extra energy is being drawn from somewhere else.

The guy with the simple coil and magnet is doing the same thing. The first motor is driving the second as a generator which in turn is feed back into the coil...

[Oouthere]

I can state he's wrong about the generator not having enough power to run the mot (http://www.generatorjoe.net/html/electricmotor.html)or. Also, the drill and grinder were not loaded so power usuage is much less (probably less than 1/2 hp motor anyway (http://www.harborfreight.com/12-speed-bench-top-drill-press-44836.html)/500 watts or so).

I'm still going through their site as it could be the real deal, just not convinced at this point. The overunity water heater may be real but is probably beyond my understanding (not all rednecks are created equal...lol).

Rich

[7redorbs]

ELECTRICAL ADVERTISEMENT:

Advertisement: I am building a flywheel generator system as built by Edward Leedskalnin did at Coral Castle, Rock Gate. I need your help and advice for parts. I need the following parts. Ford 1908 Model T differential and gearbox (90 degree transverse type transmission). Buzz Coil Ignition Systems from the ford 1908 model T. I also require some engineering or mechanical engineering advice or assistance in terms of mounting the magneto onto the differential properly (balanced) and especially securely (for high speed rotation).

I have designed, and re-developed a magneto system (North and South Pole magnets on a wheel spinning) that supplies power to an coil winding, which provides power and polarity inversion timing for to the ignition model T (which has tunable spark gap). This in turn will invert the polarity (and thus the poles) on an electromagnet that sits inline with the flywheel, is powering the flywheel, and is powered by the flywheel. This should result in a "bulk" transport in excess of 100% unity akin to the way in which reverse resistance and mutual inductance is passed from the secondary to the primary in the T.M.T by reverse resistance, or the manifestation of -i in between A.C cycles from a magneto or an A.C power supply in the Tesla MAgnifier. Amplifications of output, or recirculating currents that exceed the input by over 100% are possible according to Steinmetz when leakages are proportionately and quantatively smaller than the power provided added to the power recirculated by reverse resistance per second. Hence the magnification factor. I Intend to determine if a magnetic pole arrangement system may be viable for this design in the same way that supposed lineal vectors of a planet, and it's gravitic 90 degree pull can be expressed by the poles of planets alone, to account for both the gravity, and the 90 degree expression of supposed lineal motion. This would suggest that perpetual orbits of planets, is not from a balanced lineal motion at 90 degrees to a gravity plane, and are in fact a result of the alignment of north pole of moon, to south pole of earth. This suggests where I to rotate the moon 1/2 of a radial, then it would fall, and that my magneto flywheel north and south pole spinning, with the right ignition timer, could create the self-referencing polar system seen in both the energy configuration's of planets, and in the Tesla Magnifier itself. This is a bold step in my career and I have invested all of my time and efforts into the pursuit of truth. Nikola Tesla's truth. Wilhelm Reich's truth. C. P Steinmetz truth. How atom's and their electrons apparently maintain an indefinite and perpetual spin, as according to the nobel prize winner Richard Feynman, and how academic theories such as "entanglement" relate strongly to the initial discoveries in radio frequency and transmission by Nikola Tesla and Heinreich Hertz. I have discovered that individuals such as Lord Kelvin and Wheatstone had experiments which conceived the speed of electrostatic induction to be 291,000 miles per second, a full 105,000 miles per second faster than the speed of light 186,000 miles per second. MY friend from NASA, has a working T.M.T at 137%, and I am using his design, and test data, and Eric Dollards mathematical equations to apply this to my flywheel. I have found a "co-efficient" or a "constant" relationship between the total surface area of a working T.M.T 137% amplification primary:secondary SA ratio and a secondary:extra SA Ratio. I have found that the ratio is a constant of about 1.56, roughly expressed by the theoretical ratio of difference between the theoretical speed of a longitudinal wave, or electrostatic induction of 291,000 miles per second, divided by the speed of light 186,000 miles per second.

I have a belief that the electron is non existent. The electron is a reaction between the measuring instrument and the north and south poles causing the perpetual orbits inside the atom like the planets do. I have ways to prove this now and I invite anyone who wishes to help me with stiff engineering requirements and precise alignments that would be necessary to create a magneto, pickup, flywheel, ignition, magneto recirculating system as I have described earlier to test the arrangement's and timing of the redistribution of poles of my flyhweel system to create a perpetual motion akin to the atom's or the poles.

I accept that many will not be willing. Neither was I. I was forced to do this work, by the motivation of astonishment alone. Confirmations have flooded my way, I have the basic perpetual motion holder that proves magnetism is a substance that is inside the metal. Not how science believes (What Tesla called "delusive theory [and] works of fiction"). Now it is time for me to build a system that can convert the permanent perpetual movement of the magnetic currents into perpetual power. The proof in it is that if the magnetic current (or magneitc fields) is not static like the experts say, and it is moving, then surely there is a perpetual movement occuring, and, in the right channels, these should have the capacity for perpetual flow considering that polar arrangement alone could be an alternatively and perfectly working expression for gravity (and it's motivational movement). This was what Nikola Tesla called the wheelwork of nature.

I bid you this is my advertisment on my research into electrical theory, and the foundations of my beliefs, experiments , observations and philosophies. I did not get this far over night. I did study much harder than even the experts have, and, I had to used the inductive scientific method when the inventive method provided more inventive fictions that were too contradictory. This is similar condition in scientific theory that was suffered by the long-lived epicycle movement, until the inventive theories became so ridiculous that a non-epicycle movement of planets might usher a revolution into a truer, more representative science. If one is to look back at the history of Radio Corporation America in 1917. It will become obvious that the Tesla MArconi system used a two wave propogation, a complex magneto dielectric antennae systems that had transverse waves propogating sinusoidally at 186,000 miles per second, or at right angles in space and time, as well as the longitudinal waves of 291,000 miles per second that our scientists say cannot exist and do not exist or have ever been proven. I have discovered the old Marconi Wireless plant in Bolinas, California, it was using them, they did exist, and a man called Wheatstone, the inventor of the Wheatstone bridge actually put longitudinal waves of electrostatic induction to be 291,000 miles per second. Given Wheatstone is the father of electronics and computing in the way that faraday was the father of transformer theory - a clear divide occurs here. The R.C.A complex was taken over by a government military rule in 1917, Marconi was removed, and the whole thing became a government and military patent monopoly. IT was even ran by a general.

That is why you think the longitudinal wave is only theoretical. It isn't. The longitudinal wave existed. IT worked here. If you are a scientist you know that you have been lied to or taught wrong, or that I "Must be a fraud". You must listen to me carefully. I have not lied. You can check it all. The claims of Nikola Tesla were to transmit energy absolutely regardless of distance. You experts tell us that planets do this with their gravity all the time, but you never put it together.

The ocean delivers, from it's magnetic or gravitic force alone enough electrical potential and kinetic in the ocean to deliver power in the billions of trillions of watts, or, in a day of total ocean movement, we could power the earth for a year. The scientists and the experts though, they think they know, and they build their windmills and their hydro-dams, Tesla built Niagra falls - surely the greatest and first of them all. But tesla, like I and the aforementioned great men, we realised that if the ocean was being motivated by the Sea, and the limited devices of application such as hydroelectric or windpower were like toys in comparitive analysis of a device that could harness the field from the moon before it ever reached the ocean. He would not only be the richest man, but the man that discovered that power from the sea is a magnetic current. The power from the atom itself is of course ultimately more powerful, and the perpetual movement of the atoms as promised by Nobel Prize Winner Richard Feynman is certainly a truth. The denial and continuing beliefs preserved by current science of today ignores the working instruments of the brilliance of Tesla yesterday. The conception by experts that making use of the SECONDARY wind and SECONDARY Ocean currents being the only and most efficient way of leveraging energy, is the clear and delusive lie that prevents mankind from liberating itself from energy scarcity. Essentially, if I am correct, and their movements are secondary motivations, it is akin to an electrical engineer taking a single power cable and trying to gain power from it indirectly with a pickup coil next to the single wire. This is madness! This is inefficient! This is indirect. This is what the experts do though. They build their windmills, they build their wind-power, they build their dam's with sea-power, but the sea power comes from the moon, and the air power from the sun and the stars of space. And so, you can see, that if the ocean turned the moons gravity into energy, and the wind turned the airs potential current temperature difference into energy, then there are more direct ways to create power. Tesla claimed he had done this with his Wardenclyffe Tower. The company was sold, and the tower destroyed. Tesla claimed there were entirely more efficient systems that existed. If you were selling and creating devices that used this, would you want your car to spin around like an atom indefinitely, or would you prefer to sell more of them, and the fuels.

Electricity is not electricity it should be called magnetricity, and then it would be alright. An Alternating Current Transmission line, for instance, you are probably wondering why it can keep it's magnets, or amperes, without too much loss, like in D.C. Because in A.C the pressure between each stop and start of the line is zero, and so magnets from the surrounding air currents flow in. This is why the A.C transmission line is able to keep it's volts, because it is working like a generator. Try using high voltage D.C, you will find it is useless. This is proof enough that A.C has a characteristic of energy gains akin to the Tesla MAgnifying Transmitter.

Given that Tesla invvented the A.C system this should hardly be surprising. What i put to you that is surprising, is that A.C or north and south pole (clockwise and anticlockwise rotations) appear to be the same thing that motivates the rotation of the moons, planets, suns and stars, - and as much as the electrons. This was Tesla's discovery - also was his claim to have transmitted energy regardless of distance - or, transmit power at the speed that physicists theorise gravity may travel. Or rougly translated, the inventor of the A.C system discovered the electrogravitic connection, and then claimed to have harnessed it to use the planet for gravitic energy transmission (INSTANT POWER TRANSFER). Tesla went further claiming to have contacted aliens, using this system of transmission - he was ridiculed. However, the science of the experts suggests that if the gravity wave was harnessable some how as a transmission medium like morsecode, and an advanced civilisation anywhere in the entire universe was listening to their planets seismic vibrations, it may be possible for Tesla's system to work in this way.

Let gravity be known as invisible ropes that extend accross all points in space. Get a rope of indefinite length and lay space with it, ignore that it would rip apart by the expansion of space, and assume an aether. Now when you push or pull with a longitudinal wave the speed of transmission is instant, not 291,000 miles/per second. Pull the rope, it's instant. Try a transverse propogation or sinusoidal up and down transmission of the rope accross the uiniverse. It is not instant. It is slow. And so, the fabric of space is really the thing that determines whether Leedskalnin, Reich, Dollard, Tesla, Steinmetz and I have really anything to the claim. One I intend to thoroughly put to the test.

Thank you for reading my advertisement about electricity and magnetism. You and I, we are not educated if we cannot fully test our theories, inductively, and if necessarily inventively.

[eaglespirit]

Leedskalnin crude example:

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[psykopanther]

another example

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[Bob]

There is one theory that does hold water....that people in the beginning of the 20th century were unknowingly using radioactive materials in their experiments or they were near by and the coils were interactig and this would account for why the experimetns cannot be duplicated. That makes sense.....

Rich

Hi Rich, I don't know if you are follow this thread any more, I was just reading the archives seeing where interest is, Coral Castle was one of those places that hit a resonance with me back in 1960's I believe. I don't remember the dates exactly but it was something to "book mark" mentally.

On your comments about adding radioactives.. I believe valid.

In the 50's the US Atomic Energy Commission was posting articles for high school teachers to get their kids interested in Atomics, and the making of "atomic batteries" showed "over-unity" due to the radioactive decay.

Methods to accelerate radio active decay, i.e. neutron triggers it seems to me would be a great way to facilitate particle generation - the issue being how to downconvert the millions of electron volts into either thermal for thermo-converters or go with a new type of potential difference motor concept.

Bob

[TargeT]

another example

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he is missing very very important pieces to this wheel... there is suppose to be a structure on top of the wheel from my understanding, this is key.

[STR]

My understanding is that a bell was involved with this device. I have not seen one mention of it here. Why? To lift the stones note that Leedskalin was reported once or twice to be singing to the stones. So it appears from the bell that some harmonics are involved in this equation to lighten or lift these stones and based on cursory understanding of it you activated the flywheel, it got to the correct frequency and you then hit the bell. During the time that the bell chimed you moved the stone and each addtional lift required another bell chime as the harmonics with the magnetism apparently combined as I understood it. Surely there is a mention of the bell on that roof you mention no? What I recall is that you have to have dust from the rock you plan to work or the stones. Each one has its own harmonic or frequency it will react to or resonate with. You need the bells for the scale major and minor, you need a membrane and the sand goes on the membrane. You use the bells to find out the vibe of the stone. Once the crystals on the membrane react to the sounds and you find that harmonic you make note of it and apparently you match that to the magnetic frequency and while the bell chimes you use the membrane as the dial to be sure your project is tuned to the proper frequency to vibe the entire crystal structure of the stone so that you can both carve into it very easily and/or move them much easier as well as sand them to shape much easier during the vibration of resonance. I believe that the bells are shown in Sumerian drawings or chimes of some sort that went in procession with the device (the star wheel) they show in stone and it is very much the same as that of Leedskalin and what the Khemet clan used in Egypt.

[Bob]

My understanding is that a bell was involved with this device. I have not seen one mention of it here. Why? To lift the stones note that Leedskalin was reported once or twice to be singing to the stones. So it appears from the bell that some harmonics are involved in this equation to lighten or lift these stones and based on cursory understanding of it you activated the flywheel, it got to the correct frequency and you then hit the bell.

During the time that the bell chimed you moved the stone and each additional lift required another bell chime as the harmonics with the magnetism apparently combined as I understood it. Surely there is a mention of the bell on that roof you mention no? What I recall is that you have to have dust from the rock you plan to work or the stones. Each one has its own harmonic or frequency it will react to or resonate with. You need the bells for the scale major and minor, you need a membrane and the sand goes on the membrane.

You use the bells to find out the vibe of the stone. Once the crystals on the membrane react to the sounds and you find that harmonic you make note of it and apparently you match that to the magnetic frequency and while the bell chimes you use the membrane as the dial to be sure your project is tuned to the proper frequency to vibe the entire crystal structure of the stone so that you can both carve into it very easily and/or move them much easier as well as sand them to shape much easier during the vibration of resonance.

I believe that the bells are shown in Sumerian drawings or chimes of some sort that went in procession with the device (the star wheel) they show in stone and it is very much the same as that of Leedskalin and what the Khemet clan used in Egypt.

Trying to revive my memories of being in Egypt I think either the 88 trip or the 93 trip, there was a lot going on looking at the specific frequencies.. I remember a long discussion over there about that.. OH, ok, when traveling down to Crocodopolis off Nile towards Aswan, I noticed all our batteries, if just freshly used (a start of the electrolysis process was going on), when we passed over a particular zone, EVERY battery died almost instantly if they were slightly depleted. What we had running was various musical tones, bowls.. When those were playing (I don't recall which one was playing) and we crossed over the "field zone" that accelerated the energetics. The speakers obviously had the moving magnetics with the voice coils wiggling...

[Kindred]

I happened upon this Gem while perusing this site: http://rune.galactic.to/venuscont2c.html

(this excerpt is about 1/4 way down the page)

They gave an explanation on this mystery - where a singe, poor man, Edward Leedskalnin from Latvia, 60-80years ago, did build this castle of those BIG stones- which some of them weighs tens of tons. How were they cut and lifted high into place? The ET stated that Coral Castle was constructed using the same science as used in the construction of certain of the great pyramids.

Yes - there is a little known, magnificent coral rock edifice of huge, imposing megalithic stones near the town of Homestead, Florida. The castle’s elaborate construction rivals that of Stonehenge, as well as the Egyptian and Mayan pyramids. Coral Castle is a leading tourist attraction on a ten acre tract of land 25 miles south of Miami. It should be classified as the eighth wonder of the modern world.

Scientists and engineers who have marvelled at its intricacies offer no logical explanation as to exactly how its builder, Edward Leedskalnin, lifted and placed the huge coral blocks. Altogether Leedskalnin used over thirteen million pounds of coral block in the construction of Coral Castle’s walls, tower and artistic creations. Edward Leedskalnin was a tiny, frail man who immigrated to America from the European country of Latvia. He barely stood 5’ 6" tall, and never weighed over 110 pounds; yet he single-handedly built Coral Castle. He had very little formal education, perhaps a fifth grade level at best. For over 25 years he built, improved and added to Coral Castle, until his death from malnutrition, at the age of 64 in December 1951. He took his secrets with him to his grave. He permitted no one, absolutely nobody to ever watch him at work. The closest hint he ever gave explaining his clandestine methods was that he would remark to close friends that he knew the secrets used in the building of the Egyptian pyramids.

Acc.to the ET, Edward built his entire coral rock castle by employing the aid of a levitation device almost identical in appearance and operation to those devices used in the actual building of many of the Egyptian and Mayan pyramids a long time ago. Ed was the reincarnate of a succession of prominent Egyptian high priests who were involved in using levitation principles to manipulate the huge stones used in the construction of certain pyramids thousands of years ago.

Prior to the Egyptian lives, he lived many reincarnational existences as high priests in Atlantis. In Atlantis, - and before that, in Lemuria, Edward Leedskalnin’s occupation was the building of huge pyramids that collected, stored and produced for use, the electro-magnetic energy ever present in the atmosphere. Such free energy used to charge the floating airships that frequently traversed the continent.

Ed was always a keeper, guardian, and user of these remarkable levitation devices down through dozens of reincarnation lifetimes. To illustrate this seemingly incredible phenomenon, Ed, along with all of his reincarnation selves, is psychically, and spiritually connected, representing a soul genealogy. His selves, or souls, can be explained as being compatible counterparts of his greater, central conscious self. This greater self comprises a vast and unimaginable gestalt of conscious energy. This gestalt is possessed of intelligent personality and exists in a non-physical realm, a dimension unperceivable to our physical senses.

All Ed’s selves, or counterparts originate from this, his greater self, and become physically actualized as different people living in various time periods throughout the world, for the purpose of utilizing creative talents and also acquiring the necessary experience for progress. Such gained experience then enables that counterpart to reincarnate into a more advanced world time period where the counterpart can utilize the sum total of all its experiences to lead a more productive and rewarding life than the previous one. Edward Leedskalnin and all his many reincarnation personalities chose to express their talents by becoming involved in the building of massive structures. He was also incarnated many times in the Egypt -high-civ.time.
They chose as their tools, devices that used cosmic forces. All of Ed’s counterparts are not mere clones, for each has its own unique personality identity.

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Edward Leedskalnin’s conscious knowledge of the principles of levitation came to him as a result of a natural phenomena known as psychic bleed through. Under rare circumstances, which only occur to very few people, bits and pieces of information pertaining to past lives manage to slip through psychic doors which are slightly cracked.

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He had within him, and his inner-being, the mental knowledge to build levitation devices and use them. Ed did not have mental recall of his past lifetime personalities as they were, but he could clearly remember exactly how to construct levitation devices and how to use them. Ed, as Lemurian, Atlantean and Egyptian priests, had always been familiar with the procedures of obtaining and applying natural electromagnetic energies to perform tasks.

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He knew of the unlimited power available through the process of harnessing certain vibrations of sound. He was well aware of the free energy available through musical resonances. In addition, he also knew that light rays, or waves, contained tremendous amounts of power that could be put to work.

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What was Edward Leedskalnin’s levitation device like? The device he used in building Coral Castle was considered a medium sized hand held instrument that was composed of a series of thin, hollow metal pipes, or tubes, of varying lengths ranging from eighteen to thirty-six inches. The pipes were mounted in a special way on a one and one half by one and one half inch wooden frame that was eighteen inches square. Altogether, there were eight such pipes evenly spaced across the top of the frame. I did not learn of the pipes metallic composition, but I would assume that they were either of steel or aluminium.(or copper?-rø.rem) The pipes were arranged on the frame long to short, from left to right. I was not told how the pipes were insulated from the frame or other components *

The wooden frame and pipes were attached to a length of wood, a 2" x 4", that the butt of which was carved to resemble a rifle stock in appearance. Due to the instrument’s weight when being used, a monpod was fashioned and attached to the bottom of the frame for ground support and stability. A series of powerful magnets was fitted to the sides of the frame opposite the pipes. In other words, when the instrument was held in the arms for use, the magnets were located on the frame to the left and right of the pipes. Both the magnets and the frames were wrapped at certain positions with thin, copper wire. A heavy gauge copper wire (insulated) was connected in a certain manner to both left and right magnet banks, and they both joined together at a connecting terminal at the back of the frame.


By connecting these two wires, an electro-magnetic current, or flux, was immediately induced, or drawn across the pipes, resulting in a perpetually flowing circuit of electrical energy. The device is then primed and ready for use. Beyond this connection, no outside energy source is required to maintain the current. To activate it, the pipes must then be struck with a small hand held hammer. This produces musical tones which creates a special vibrational resonance.

When a special musical chord is reached, it does not diminish in sound intensity, but is held in constant audible amplification by the action of the electro-magnetic flux on the pipes. This musical chord will effect a natural weight or buoyancy, in the object, which causes it to lose it’s weight and float slowly off the ground. At this point, in order to then raise the object from it’s neutral position and lift it up in elevation, a different series of musical notes are struck on the pipes. This new chord then cancels out the neutral chord, and its lifting effect takes over, at which time the object rises to the pointing of the levitation instrument. Next, In order to then move the object from point A to point B, an additional musical chord is struck.

This is known as the moving chord. There is several other special musical chords that are played to move the object at different angles, and there is one for moving the object closer or further away also.

To explain the concept of how the music moves the object is very difficult. The music, in effect, creates a state of electro-magnetic equilibrium in the object.

The music is emitted as vibrational energy waves and they actually nullify the objects gravity, thus causing it to lose it’s weight. The applicable power and range of such a device is limited to certain mathematical specifications. These have to do with the size of the pipes, frame, magnets, and other components. More potential power is obtained by building a larger levitation device, however, there is a limit beyond which a diminishing return law takes effect. When the object is safely moved to the desired location, the device’s power is turned off by isconnecting the two large copper wires at the back of the frame. If for any reason, the circuit is broken in this manner while the object is still airborne, it will instantly fall to the ground having promptly regained its weight.

If Edward Leedskalnin could have tape recorded himself at work moving the huge coral blocks about at Coral Castle, it would have sounded as if he were instead, playing a strangely intriguing melody on an instrument sounding similar to a xylophone. Book claims he was one of the builders of Stonehenge in an earlier incarnation.

"It must be mentioned here that my Venusian friend purposely did not give me more detailed technical information concerning the construction and operation of the levitating device Edward Leedskalnin used in his work. There were more electrical and magnetic gadgets connected to the instrument than mentioned here."

In Unity, Peace and Love