Which is the best spiritual path?

[Tony]

Which is the best spiritual path?

The one that increases your compassion.
The one that increases your tolerance.
The one that increase your faith.
The one that increase your intelligence.
The one that increases your devotion.
The one that satisfies you.
The one that answers all your questions.

The one that takes you out of yourself!




Tony:hungry:

[Eram]

The path that is paved with truth and leads to deeper and more truths.

:juggle:

[Kelly]

The path of knowing yourself.
Treat others like you would want to be treated.
The path of your own branch of spirituality, as long as it hurts no-one else.

MAKE ME A CHANNEL OF YOUR PEACE


Make me a channel of your peace.
Where there is hatred let me bring your love;
Where there is injury your pardon, Lord;
And where there's doubt true faith in you.

Refrain:
Oh, Master grant that I may never seek
So much to be consoled as to console;
To be understood as to understand;
To be loved as to love with all my soul.

Make me a channel of your peace.
Where there's despair in life let me bring hope;
Where there is darkness, only light;
And where there's sadness, ever joy.

Refrain

Make me a channel of your peace.
It is in pardoning that we are pardoned;
In giving to all men that we receive;
And in dying that we're born to eternal life.

[shadowstalker]

the spiritual Path does not always consist of a conceivable list, for one may have learned certain lessons already, it all depends on the individual person.

[Finefeather]

The one that satisfies you. :)

What else can drive us more than seeking satisfaction?
And when contentment is reached, desire is forgotten and enlightenment begins.
:)

[Mu2143]

Understanding the differents between this body your in and what Spirtit is.
Which is following the way of the spirit and it is not what satisfies you, because that can include the things of this body and your never progress spiritualy

[Spiral]

Well, there are three answers that come to mind;

The one where someone with some book tells you what to believe.

The one with pretty girls ( I've heard of it but still looking).

The one where you go still and listen to the quiet voice within.


Is there a prize for the best answer Tony ? :high5:

[Tony]

Welll, there are three answers that come to mind;

The one where someone with some book tells you what to believe.

The one with pretty girls ( I've heard of it but still looking).

The one where you go still and listen to the quiet voice within.


Is there a prize for the best answer Tony ? :high5:


The object is everyone wins!
The prize is being happy and satisfied with what you have found.
The bonus is real confidence, that no one can ever upset you, ever again.

And, one now have compassion for other's point of view....however that does not mean, one leave one's brains outside on the pavement (sidewalk)!


Tony

[shadowstalker]

:peace::first::whoo::grouphug::party::laugh::welcome::popcorn::thumb:

[Fred Steeves]

The one that takes you out of yourself!


Uh oh, did I get that one backwards Tony? I was just beginning to really go in deep...

[Autumn]

Good one pie'n'eal -

Said in one word: Ubuntu

[RMorgan]

Hey Tony,

You know, I have a friend who is a philosopher, a very good one.

He thought me something very interesting, during our numerous long discussions; know your question, know your answer.

In this case, he would ask me to define the meaning of best, define the meaning of spiritual, define the meaning of path, and then define the meaning of best spiritual path.

Of course, it isn´t easy to define these things, but once you successfully do it, you probably wont have a question anymore; you´ll have the answer.

Cheers,

Raf.

[truthseekerdan]

Which is the best spiritual path?

The one that increases your compassion.
The one that increases your tolerance.
The one that increase your faith.
The one that increase your intelligence.
The one that increases your devotion.
The one that satisfies you.
The one that answers all your questions.

The one that takes you out of yourself!




Tony:hungry:

There is nothing we can do to avoid any moment of experience but we can cultivate an openness to be present for each moment we experience. We must not conceal or deny anything to know truth. My answer may not make sense to many, but here it is: None and All

[Tony]

As usual conspiracy sites being conspiracy sites, cloud the issue!

Spiritual paths are just a boat to get to the other shore,
once arrived the boat is no longer needed.

Of course you may see this differently.
Spiritual... is that which is beyond the thinking mind, our essential nature.
Path...is our confused state we are in now, that does not know our essential nature.
Best...that which is conducive for the individual to realise that essential nature.

Do not confuse PATH with ORGANISATION!.

An organisation is just a method, we choose a method or not to facilitate the realisation of our essential nature. We choose what satisfies us, it is always our choice – as WE have to do the work.

To claim that one needs no Path makes no sense whatsoever. Are you claiming to be enlightened?
Even then you are only talking about you....again! Conspiracy sites being conspiracy sites, teach to not trust anyone, and as Mr Sinatra says...I did it myyyyy way!
I sometimes think that conspiracy sites are there to confuse people. You are fooling yourself if you think any of your ideas are original.
The whole point of spirituality is to go beyond our confused thinking and of those around us.

One more point. Out of compassion for others suffering, there are those that choose to take the spiritual boat back, to hand it to others to use....if they wish and if they find it useful!
Of course one does not have to do this...it's a choice thing!


Tony

[Tarka the Duck]

Hey Tony,

You know, I have a friend who is a philosopher, a very good one.

He thought me something very interesting, during our numerous long discussions; know your question, know your answer.

In this case, he would ask me to define the meaning of best, define the meaning of spiritual, define the meaning of path, and then define the meaning of best spiritual path.

Of course, it isn´t easy to define these things, but once you successfully do it, you probably wont have a question anymore; you´ll have the answer.

Cheers,

Raf.



Hello Raf

I wish an education in the basics of philosophy was compulsory in state education...I know little about it unfortunately, but I know it would be hugely beneficial.

So what is the difference between philosophy and spirituality? That would make a good thread for discussion! I can't see that there would be a cut and dried division but there must be aspects by which they differ.

How about this...off the top of my head...

Philosophy is about gaining an expansive, objective understanding of "reality". It tends towards the realm of concepts, and hopefully, knowledge arises.

Spirituality is about gaining a personal understanding of our relationship to "reality" and our place within that. It goes beyond the conceptual, and hopefully wisdom arises.

We need both - they are not mutually exclusive.

Kathie

[Rantaak]

I would say that any path which leads to death is an effective spiritual path. So the only one that doesn't really work is physical immortality. I mean, that works... It's just really slow.

[The Truth Is In There]

the one that frees you of all desire and allows you to simply be.

[jackovesk]

Which is the best spiritual path?

The one that increases your compassion.
The one that increases your tolerance.
The one that increase your faith.
The one that increase your intelligence.
The one that increases your devotion.
The one that satisfies you.
The one that answers all your questions.

The one that takes you out of yourself!

Tony:hungry:

Please Mr. pie'n'eal Pick Me :target: Pick Me...:high5:

...and I'll share with you the only worthwhile answer...:yes4:

[crested-duck]

Which is the best spiritual path?

The one that increases your compassion.
The one that increases your tolerance.
The one that increase your faith.
The one that increase your intelligence.
The one that increases your devotion.
The one that satisfies you.
The one that answers all your questions.

The one that takes you out of yourself!




Tony:hungry: For me ,the only one I've found at this point in "my personal quest" that adequately satisfies by answering all my questions honestly while increasing my intelligence is :http://www.ucadia.com/home.htm

[RunningDeer]

These days the best path is to sit in reflections and contemplation until less and less words flow. Then more silence than thought. Then lots of silence. I'm aware that there's a beyond, but I enjoying this place Now.

[Fred Steeves]

To claim that one needs no Path makes no sense whatsoever. Are you claiming to be enlightened?
Even then you are only talking about you....again! Conspiracy sites being conspiracy sites, teach to not trust anyone, and as Mr Sinatra says...I did it myyyyy way!
I sometimes think that conspiracy sites are there to confuse people. You are fooling yourself if you think any of your ideas are original.
The whole point of spirituality is to go beyond our confused thinking and of those around us.


Hi Tony, please stop ragging on old blue eyes would ya? Geez Louise. "My Way" is one of my all time favorite songs. Just ask our neighbor who heard me belt it out last weekend while working outside.(LOL) She actually applauded!

Now anyone who knows me, knows I'm certainly nowhere near enlightened, so let's put that baby to bed shall we? Now then, what's so awful about being a misfit toy, and doing it one's own way? Here's how I see it in metaphor: "O.K., time for the journey to begin, all packed and ready to go. Let's double check our supplies one more time, before setting off across no man's land".

Treat others the way you want to be treated. Check.
Silent observer is in place and on duty. Check.
Reminder to laugh often, and encourage others to do so as well. Check
Don't be afraid to cry. Check
Don't be afraid of failure, it WILL happen, and often.
Sing. Check
Never take your eyes off the destination. Check

And lastly of course, the note from Creator."This is not a race, for remember that there is no time where you come from. You have all the 'time' in the 'world'. There are no winners, no losers, no right way or wrong way to proceed. Boldly do it 'your way', do it well, and have a good story for me when you get there. I'll be waiting with the light on".

Cheers,
Fred

[Sebastion]

I reckon I am gonna have to agree with you Fred. We are all unique beings. I cannot subscribe to the idea that one way fits all. I don't think for a second that everyone has the exact same thoughts, ideas or beliefs regarding much of anything.

So with that being said, how could there be any other way besides your way?

[Tony]

It's true that time does not actually exist, as this is a measurement of changing matter. However we inhabit a temporary human body, and cannot be certain that the next incarnation will be conducive to even being aware that we have a mind!

When speaking of spiritual matters, as we say, this is for the individual to decide what they want or don't want to do. We are very fortunate here that we have an opportunity to share ideas, experiences and methods together. This time together has been to most important in my life, as it has triggered many insights.

As one refines one's understanding, the mind becomes clearer. That clarity of inner space, one could call it purity, becomes very precious, as it is less contaminated by concepts. This lucid knowing makes the mind very sharp. Whereas at one time one could allow one's mind to be vague, and entertain itself, it now cannot, because it is able to sense subtleties of change.

For some of us, when we look back on our childhood, it wasn't very pleasant, it was heavy with emotional upsets and coarseness. This can take a long time to shake off, as it has a great effect on our minds and brains. So, for some of us we have no wish to go back to that lack of understanding. So time is very precious -moment to moment precious!

Many practitioners wish for a better incarnation to continue practicing. So, this limited time in this body has to be used wisely. I know I could die at any moment, so time is precious.

Yes, we have all the time in the world, and that is precisely how long it could take to realise our true nature!



Tony

[crested-duck]

It might just be more importantly about the "story/journey" rather than about a happy ending to it all. And the "island/land of misfits"does actually exists here in my yard, and I fit right in and feel welcome with all those misfit odd looking and sounding ducks too.....Rob

[Tony]

I reckon I am gonna have to agree with you Fred. We are all unique beings. I cannot subscribe to the idea that one way fits all. I don't think for a second that everyone has the exact same thoughts, ideas or beliefs regarding much of anything.

So with that being said, how could there be any other way besides your way?

There are many ways, that was the point of the opening post.
There are many encounters or catalysts were there has been meeting of minds beyond thoughts and ideas....Art, music, a child standing for the first time, an open response to an angry question, we do it all the time. What gets in the way is...noise in the mind!

We are unique, but if we hold onto our uniqueness we separate ourselves. It's a very fine line we have to tread.

Tony

[Feren]

Hi Tony, please stop ragging on old blue eyes would ya? Geez Louise. "My Way" is one of my all time favorite songs. Just ask our neighbor who heard me belt it out last weekend while working outside.(LOL) She actually applauded!

Now anyone who knows me, knows I'm certainly nowhere near enlightened, so let's put that baby to bed shall we? Now then, what's so awful about being a misfit toy, and doing it one's own way? Here's how I see it in metaphor: "O.K., time for the journey to begin, all packed and ready to go. Let's double check our supplies one more time, before setting off across no man's land".

Treat others the way you want to be treated. Check.
Silent observer is in place and on duty. Check.
Reminder to laugh often, and encourage others to do so as well. Check
Don't be afraid to cry. Check
Don't be afraid of failure, it WILL happen, and often.
Sing. Check
Never take your eyes off the destination. Check

And lastly of course, the note from Creator."This is not a race, for remember that there is no time where you come from. You have all the 'time' in the 'world'. There are no winners, no losers, no right way or wrong way to proceed. Boldly do it 'your way', do it well, and have a good story for me when you get there. I'll be waiting with the light on".

Cheers,
Fred

Hello Fred,

Thank you for your inspiration. I've had that same feeling since I was a kid, the feeling that what I do is good because I do it my way, with all my heart and soul.
This is, in a certain way, the 'morality' or the moral sense I cultivate and as you may know, it is a whole-life task since the 'world' is full of opposite forces.

To all of you: you are not alone here, don't give up.

Have a wonderful day and a wonderful life!

See you around.

Ferén

[WhiteFeather]

It starts here.....Connecting With Nature and The Natural Law,, Or The Law of One...If you will
http://www.whitegadget.com/attachments/pc-wallpapers/16215d1222951905-nature-photos-wallpapers-images-beautiful-pictures-nature-444-photos.jpg

[jackovesk]

Which is the best spiritual path?

The one that increases your compassion.
The one that increases your tolerance.
The one that increase your faith.
The one that increase your intelligence.
The one that increases your devotion.
The one that satisfies you.
The one that answers all your questions.

The one that takes you out of yourself!

Tony:hungry:

Please Mr. pie'n'eal Pick Me :target: Pick Me...:high5:

...and I'll share with you the only worthwhile answer...:yes4:

pie'n'eal you still have'nt picked me yet..?

FYI: I was being serious and have a serious answer...:yes4:

[Davidallany]

Everyone is on this path, some claimed to have reached the end some are still somewhere in the beginning.
The truth is we are all special, powerful beyond the wildest dreams and have vast awareness. It´s just that we got cought up in a game that we loved it so much, then we forgot it was just a game. Like a movie goer that forgot himself and identified with the movie being played for the duration of the movie. There is this silver thread of light that goes deep down under the waters, if we follow it all the way down we will find the sunken star deep within us, it´s our guide back home.
To get out of oneself, is to get out of the imagened self, it´s to look through the eyes of the body and to listen to the chatter of the mind as an observer.
The body lives with in you, you do not live in the body. The body is limited, you are not.

[Feren]

Which is the best spiritual path?

The one that increases your compassion.
The one that increases your tolerance.
The one that increase your faith.
The one that increase your intelligence.
The one that increases your devotion.
The one that satisfies you.
The one that answers all your questions.

The one that takes you out of yourself!




Tony:hungry:

Tony, thank you a lot for your post. It's funny, because you made me think and actually I have radically different feelings:

Compassion? Not for me. Power.
Tolerance? No. Activity.
Faith? In what? I don't have faith in nothing. Peace of mind.
Devotion. Towards life.
Satisfaction, yes.
No faith = no questions answered, 'I only know I know nothing'.
Intelligence, of course, for better digestion. :D

Do you think these (your and mine) may coexist somehow? It would be a very interesting philosophical talk.

Ferén

[Tony]

pie'n'eal you still have'nt picked me yet..?

FYI: I was being serious and have a serious answer...:yes4:

Dear Mr J

I am longing, waiting, yearning and burning for your answer. The prize is your everlasting happiness...no pressure then ;)

Tony

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Tony, thank you a lot for your post. It's funny, because you made me think and actually I have radically different feelings:

Compassion? Not for me. Power.
Tolerance? No. Activity.
Faith? In what? I don't have faith in nothing. Peace of mind.
Devotion. Towards life.
Satisfaction, yes.
No faith = no questions answered, 'I only know I know nothing'.
Intelligence, of course, for better digestion. :D

Do you think these (your and mine) may coexist somehow? It would be a very interesting philosophical talk.

Ferén

Emptiness and unconditional compassion are power because they are limitless.

We should talk more.
Tony

[jackovesk]

pie'n'eal you still have'nt picked me yet..?

FYI: I was being serious and have a serious answer...:yes4:

Dear Mr J

I am longing, waiting, yearning and burning for your answer. The prize is your everlasting happiness...no pressure then ;)

Tony



Ok here goes...2 words

The 'Truth'


Spirituality = Truth [COLOR="black"]& Truth = Spirituality

Just let that sink in for a second...:yes4:

...and regardless of Who you are and Where your Spiritual Journey takes you, it ALWAYS comes back to the 'TRUTH'...:)

Do we have a winner..? :first: :clap2:

[Tony]

pie'n'eal you still have'nt picked me yet..?

FYI: I was being serious and have a serious answer...:yes4:

Dear Mr J

I am longing, waiting, yearning and burning for your answer. The prize is your everlasting happiness...no pressure then ;)

Tony



Ok here goes...2 words

The 'Truth'


Spirituality = Truth [COLOR="black"]& Truth = Spirituality

Just let that sink in for a second...:yes4:

...and regardless of Who you are and Where yor Spiritual Journey takes you, it ALWAYS comes back to the 'TRUTH'...:)

Do we have a winner..? :first: :clap2:



Dear Jack',
Take a bow, and receive the golden happiness medal!
But, just so we are sure your answer gets the applause it rightly deserves, ........................................................................what is truth?

[greybeard]

"I am" ---think everyone can agree that they are aware of themselves.
A traditional path is -- find out who/what you are?
Ie who is it that is aware of the finger as I type?
What is it that enables the eyes to see, the ears to hear, the senses to register?

Find out what is really,really important for the personal self.

For me I want to know what is beyond the concepts of me--- ego driven.
I want to discover the true Self--- its in there somewhere-- I get glimpses.

Be still and know that I am God-- in the stillness-- the emptiness, it seems, is found the eternal "I" --- I am That.

Namaste

[jackovesk]

pie'n'eal you still have'nt picked me yet..?

FYI: I was being serious and have a serious answer...:yes4:

Dear Mr J

I am longing, waiting, yearning and burning for your answer. The prize is your everlasting happiness...no pressure then ;)

Tony



Ok here goes...2 words

The 'Truth'


Spirituality = Truth [COLOR="black"]& Truth = Spirituality

Just let that sink in for a second...:yes4:

...and regardless of Who you are and Where yor Spiritual Journey takes you, it ALWAYS comes back to the 'TRUTH'...:)

Do we have a winner..? :first: :clap2:



Dear Jack',
Take a bow, and receive the golden happiness medal!
But, just so we are sure your answer gets the applause it rightly deserves, ........................................................................what is truth?

That's the best part about it...

The Truth is the Truth & Nothing but the Truth in whatever form that may be...Its UNIVERSAL...

Why do we continue to make life so difficult for ourselves, when the 'Truth' is the only thing that matters...

When we look in the mirror we know the Truth, upon our reflection we can choose to hide the Truth, when we Meditate we search for knowing or discovering the Truth, and when we are at our most peaceful - we are living the Truth...:yes4:

[Tony]

pie'n'eal you still have'nt picked me yet..?

FYI: I was being serious and have a serious answer...:yes4:

Dear Mr J

I am longing, waiting, yearning and burning for your answer. The prize is your everlasting happiness...no pressure then ;)

Tony



Ok here goes...2 words

The 'Truth'


Spirituality = Truth [COLOR="black"]& Truth = Spirituality

Just let that sink in for a second...:yes4:

...and regardless of Who you are and Where yor Spiritual Journey takes you, it ALWAYS comes back to the 'TRUTH'...:)

Do we have a winner..? :first: :clap2:



Dear Jack',
Take a bow, and receive the golden happiness medal!
But, just so we are sure your answer gets the applause it rightly deserves, ........................................................................what is truth?

That's the best part about it...

The Truth is the Truth & Nothing but the Truth in whatever form that may be...Its UNIVERSAL...

Why do we continue to make life so difficult for ourselves, when the 'Truth' is the only thing that matters...

When we look in the mirror we know the Truth, upon our reflection we can choose to hide the Truth, when we Meditate we search for knowing or discovering the Truth, and when are at our most peaceful - we are living the Truth...:yes4:



Well you get the medal and universal happiness!:kiss:

[Sebastion]

My question for you Mr Pie is simply this: What is the definition of true sanity while living in a world full of insanity?

[Tony]

my question for you mr pie is simply this: What is the definition of true sanity while living in a world full of insanity?


knowing it"s insane!

[Tony]

The problem is with knowing it's insane, while knowing its true nature is sane!

This brings us back to the two truths; relative and absolute.

"I know" and "Knowing."

[Sebastion]

True sanity exists in the pure spiritual. The deeper question is how does one express pure sanity in an insane world?



The problem is with knowing it's insane, and, knowing it's true nature is sane!
This brings us back to the two truths, relative and absolute.

"I know and knowing."

[Tony]

@ Sebastion

The deeper question is how does one express pure sanity in an insane world?

When one truly recognises one's insanity, that is sanity.
Then one realises that within everyone else's insanity, there is sanity.
Because of that, compassion automatically arises, and therefore one only speaks to the sanity in the person.
In this way, one respects everyone - and within that respect is love.

Of course, we want to hug everyone and put everything right but that doesn't work. One has to get the biggest picture possible, and know that everyone has their own path to deal with and that we rub shoulders for a while...and maybe some time in the future something will manifest for that person (that happened to me - "Aha! That was what was meant!") Bit by bit, we join up the dots in our own time and in our own way.

A meeting of minds is a very precious moment.