The occult significance of Glastonbury Tor in the Olympics opening ceremony

[Ishtar]

Friends have been asking me about the magical significance of Glastonbury Tor since they saw it in the opening ceremony of the Olympics last night.

I don’t profess to know everything about the Tor. I doubt there are many that do. But I do live here in Glastonbury and, as a shaman, when I walk these lands, they reveal to me some of their secrets. And so I can share with you what I know, and also the thoughts of those more expert than me.

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In a nutshell, Glastonbury Tor is a huge vortex of spiritual and temporal power for the British Isles. Wnen Alfred the Great was trying to recapture them back from the Vikings, in the 9th century, he was camped out near here. But before that, as a child of just six, he had been sent to Rome to learn the great arts and his curriculum would have included magical alchemy, as this was practised by the monks of that time. And so it is my belief that Alfred used the power of the Michael and Mary leylines, which intertwine in a kind of etheric fertility dance to create the incredble vortic energies of Glastonbury Tor, to change who held the power in the land.

After signing a treaty with the Vikings, to consolidate his power, a series of campaigns by Edward Elder and his sister, AEthelflaed, known as the Lady of the Mercians, swiftly saw off the countrymen of Eric Bloodaxe and Ragnald son of Sygtrygg ~ and they haven’t been back since!

Read more at The Alchemical Secrets of Glastonbury Tor (http://www.ishtarsgate.com/forum/showthread.php?3283-The-alchemical-secrets-of-Glastonbury-Tor)

[Flash]

What a nice pyramid picture here above! Under the tower. I would love to dig this site...

[Cartomancer]

I have read some things about Dr. John Dee and Glastonbury that state he found the 'Holy Grail' there. Interesting was the skit with the Queen and 007 James Bond. 007 was Dr. Dee's code name when communicating with Queen Elizabeth I. Dr. Dee was also the Queens astrologer and taught navigation to the Royal Navy. As I said in the other thread about the symbolism of the ceremony it was interesting that the tree of life sprang from the top of the hill. In some mythology Joseph of Arimathea was said to have come to Glastonbury more than once and possibly Christ as well.

I also noticed the large flying pig hung above Battersea power station in that skit. A direct reference to Pink Floyd's 'Animals' album!

[Ishtar]

Yes, John Dee came to Glastonbury and ransacked the post Reformation ruins of the Abbey and the church, looking for St Dunstan's recipe for the Philosopher's Stone. It is uncertain whether he found it.

Dunstan (909-988) was the Abbot of Glastonbury and also went on to become Archbishop of Canterbury. He was a personal counsellor to King Edmund.

[Ishtar]

By the way, it's only just occurred to me that some on here may not know that the inner planes name for Glastonbury is Avalon? And the mythical site of King Arthur's Camelot is also just a half-an-hour's drive from here?

[Cartomancer]

By the way, it's only just occurred to me that some on here may not know that the inner planes name for Glastonbury is Avalon? And the mythical site of King Arthur's Camelot is also just a half-an-hour's drive from here?

I have noticed that and thought it was a wild synchromystic thing! I recently came across another Avalon clue in my work. The Avalon Peninsula in Newfoundland was named by Bacon and his Colony there was named Cupids (eros god of love). Interestingly he may have chosen the spot for Avalon and Cupids based on the ancient directional systems that I have been talking about. Rosslyn Chapel is due north of Glastonbury Tor and may have been placed this way intentionally.

Personal synchromystic note: My mother is from just three miles north of Cupids!!

The Avalon in Newfoundland included Cupids one of the Colonies Bacon had an interest in including Jamestown Virginia. Part of my theory is that he used the same ley line to place Cupids that was used to hide the Oak Island Treasure. Many legends say his papers or what is known as Bacons Vault is indeed the Oak Island Treasure. Here's my video about that and an article is being included in the first volume of True History Journal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tI7rss4dtQ

[Mark]

Have you found out any more info regarding the Kolbrin Bible (http://thekolbrin.com/) and Glastonbury Abbey, Ishtar?

How interesting that that locale is of such significance in so many areas.

[Cartomancer]

I was recently reading that an archaeologist was saying that Galstonbury was built up in levels and had different forms as it was built up. He was saying that the lowest level had an octagonal shape to it. This is interesting becuase others theorize that King Arthur's Castle was at Stirling Castle in Scotland. A huge octagonal earthworks is located there that many equate with the 'round table.' It would be so interesting if there was also an octagon at Glastonbury. Link to Stirling article;

http://www.theepochtimes.com/n2/science/king-arthurs-round-table-possibly-located-in-scotland-61421.html

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[gripreaper]

By the way, it's only just occurred to me that some on here may not know that the inner planes name for Glastonbury is Avalon? And the mythical site of King Arthur's Camelot is also just a half-an-hour's drive from here?

Uncanny, isn't it? The most highly evolved and energetic blog on the internet is called Avalon?

[Ishtar]

Here's my video about that and an article is being included in the first volume of True History Journal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tI7rss4dtQ

Oh my goodness! I've been talking to you for a good while now, and I've only just realised who you are. Not only that, but there's some amazing synchronicity here, because since Red Ice Creations started publishing some of my stuff, I've been exploring their radio section and today for the first time heard you being interviewed about Axis Mundi. I was rivetted to my seat the whole way through, trying to jot down the points of interest but in the end there were so many , I resolved that I would have to listen to it again. I then proceeded to find your blog and have earmarked it with the resolution to read every single thing that's on it. Meanwhile, I posted the Axis Mundi interview on my forum, Ishtar's Gate, saying that I couldn't recommend it more highly. And I can't. It's going to take me a while to work through all your research, but I do intend to do so.

My life has taken me more into landscape zodiacs lately and landscape giants... but also I'm working with another female shaman to bring together the Divine Masculine at Cadbury/Camelot (I think the so called hillfort is a serpent mound) and the thinly disguised Divine Feminine Venus Temple of Stourhead.

To me, Arthur is not a historical character but a mythological character derived from the constellation of the Great Bear ('arth' in Celtic).

Avalon, I believe, derives from the River Avon, but the word 'avon' (afen and afon also) means 'river'. So the River Avon means 'River River'.

Yes, Bacon was another fascinating character, I believe.

It's great to meet you, Cort. I think your work is fantastic and groundbreaking and I look forward to exploring it all.

[Ishtar]

Have you found out any more info regarding the Kolbrin Bible (http://thekolbrin.com/) and Glastonbury Abbey, Ishtar?

How interesting that that locale is of such significance in so many areas.

Hi Rahkyt,

It's good to see you! And I must thank you again for introducing me to The Kolbrin.

There is some controversy about whether or not it's a fake, which will probably remain unresolved until they find a way to date the bronze leaves it's inscribed upon.

But for me it was an eye-opener ~ on my father's mother's side, I'm a Smith, and all the bells in my head started ringing when I started to read these texts because it is obviously the works of the smiths, who were here in Glastonbury until Henry 1st threw them out and changed the currency from a debt-based one (for which the smiths produced the gold and silver coins) to one based on wooden sticks. This is referred to as the time that the Jews were thrown out of Britain (only to be let in again by Cromwell about four hundred years later, to create the Bank of England), but I don't think they were Jews in how we think of Jews today, although they had come here from the Middle East, but probably via Mesopotamia, judging from the stories in the Kolbrin.

A lot of the above is based on my hunch about it... it just resonated with me on the smith level and as a shaman, I have met and have been working with this branch of the ancestral tree, and I'm very fond of them! So somebody could probably 'prove to me' that the Kolbrin is a fake, but I still probably wouldn't believe them, because my sense is so strong about this.

Just before Henry threw out the smiths, there was a fire in the abbey that is thought to have been started deliberately and many precious artifacts were 'lost' from that. I think The Kolbrin could have been amongst those lost items.

Anyway, I live just off Silver Street which runs along the side of the Abbey. Some say it's called Silver after silvan, Latin for 'wooded'. But I'm convinced that this was the street of the goldsmiths and silversmiths before they were thrown out, and my dreams confirm it.

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I would say that the Michael tower atop Glastonbury Tor is an earthing device, to scramble and dissapate Goddess energies, a giant phallus erected by Christians to disempower us and to render us magically barren. The tower is a phallus to f*** over the Godess, the terrace along which the flags were displayed in the opening ceremony is a labyrinth in which service to the Godess was consolidated and in which the individual was charged with energies of the divine feminine. The tower atop Glastonbury Tor is an early device for perpetuating separation consciousness.

[Cartomancer]

Thank you Ishtar. I am always enjoying what you have to say because we are approaching similar subject matter from a different perspective but with significant overlap! I have gleaned a lot of appreciation for your views and insights. I'm always here to discuss any of this with you and the entire forum. Please link to your articles on Red Ice if possible.

[Ishtar]

I would say that the Michael tower atop Glastonbury Tor is an earthing device, to scramble and dissapate Goddess energies, a giant phallus erected by Christians to disempower us and to render us magically barren. The tor is a phallus to f*** over the Godess, the terrace along which the flags were displayed in the opening ceremony is a labyrinth in which service to the Godess was consolidated and in which the individual was charged with energies of the divine feminine. The tower atop Glastonbury Tor is an early device for perpetuating separation consciousness.

Well, I think Danny Boyle was quite right to put an oak tree on the top of his Tor, in the Olympic stadium, because there almost certainly would have been one there, when the Druids led the spiritual tradition of these Isles. However, the Michael 'tower' you speak of is really not a tower, but all that's left of a Christian church which has been destroyed over time. So I agree that the church would have been placed on a 'pagan' ritual site, as was the Romans habit of the time, to hijack the sacred places and install their own patriarchal religion on top. But the Tor itself is far from phallic or masculine, because its etheric body is built by two intertwining male and female leylines (Michael and Mary) and also the male red iron-containing spring and the female white calcium-containing spring. In this way, Glastonbury Tor represents the perfect balance between masculine and feminine energies.

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Yes, I know what the tower is the remains of. I have been there and dowsed it and the surrounding area, as I have most sacred sites in Britain. Everything in a duality expresses in this world as either masculine or feminine, despite the fact that all is 50% masculine and 50% feminine. The Tor expresses as feminine despite being a point where the streams meet. The tower of every church is an earthing device, period.

I nowhere say the tor is phallic - the tor is the hill, and completely unconnected to the tower. The tower is an abherration. The tor is for service to the goddess, despite the fact that yes, like everything in this duality, it is half and half.

[Ishtar]

Ah, I see...when you said...


The tor is a phallus to f*** over the Godess it was probably a typo and you meant tower?

[music]

Ah, I see...when you said...


The tor is a phallus to f*** over the Godess it was probably a typo and you meant tower?

Yes, sorry, my mistake, doing too much too quickly before going to work :) Thanks for picking up on the that, I'll change it now.

[Ishtar]

Thank you, Cartomancer. I really appreciate that.

I'm watching the Oak Island Mystery as we speak.

I've had a few articles on Red Ice but the one I think that will interest you the most is The Enchantment of the Olympics and the Earthstars Matrix (http://www.redicecreations.com/article.php?id=20907).

Recent leyline stuff on the Gate includes the new Melkhart Leyline (http://www.ishtarsgate.com/forum/showthread.php?3096-Presenting-the-new-Melkarth-%28Herakles%29-leyline) and also more on the Belinus Line (http://www.ishtarsgate.com/forum/showthread.php?2495-And-The-Wise-Men-Followed-the-Star-along-the-Belinus-Leyline-of-the-British-Isles) since Gary Biltcliffe's book, The Spine of Albion, came out about it. Also Prehistoric leylines of the British Isles (http://www.ishtarsgate.com/forum/showthread.php?806-Prehistoric-ley-lines-of-the-British-Isles) might be of interest if you haven't already seen it.

In addition, we've got lots of stuff on landscape zodiacs in the Archaeo-astronomy section (http://www.ishtarsgate.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?33-Archaeo-astronomy) including threads about the Glastonbury and Malvern Zodiacs and also the huge landscape zodiac of the British Isles which has been developed from something called the Gipsy Switch. The Gypsy Switch is the annual cyclic pattern of 12 gypsy and traveller horse fairs that would talke place around the British Isles at one time according to the time of year, and the travellers would follow those fairs. Most of the fairs have died out now but some older travellers remember the course of the Gypsy Switch and if you follow it, you gradually see that the place names tie in with the relevant astrological sign. It's quite fascinating!

[TWINCANS]

I have noticed that and thought it was a wild synchromystic thing! I recently came across another Avalon clue in my work. The Avalon Peninsula in Newfoundland was named by Bacon and his Colony there was named Cupids (eros god of love). Interestingly he may have chosen the spot for Avalon and Cupids based on the ancient directional systems that I have been talking about. Rosslyn Chapel is due north of Glastonbury Tor and may have been placed this way intentionally.

Personal synchromystic note: My mother is from just three miles north of Cupids!!

The Avalon in Newfoundland included Cupids one of the Colonies Bacon had an interest in including Jamestown Virginia. Part of my theory is that he used the same ley line to place Cupids that was used to hide the Oak Island Treasure. Many legends say his papers or what is known as Bacons Vault is indeed the Oak Island Treasure.

The Oak Island Treasure may more likely have been brought by a group of Templars earlier than Bacon - in the 14th c. The Templar group came to begin the New Arcadia and was headed by Henry I Sinclair (c. 1345 – c. 1400) Baron of Roslin and Earl of Orkney, a Scottish nobleman and grandfather of William Sinclair 1st Earl of Caithness the builder of Rosslyn Chapel.

At dissolution in 1312 the western Templars fled from Portugal to Scotland. Much of the Templar treasure was taken with them to Portugal and funded centuries of sea projects to the New World.

I posted a reference to a series of excellent research books on the subject here:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?9584-Swedes-brought-Templars-to-MN-to-hide-ancient-treasures-in-1342.../page3

Written by Toronto researcher Michael Bradley, the 3 part series of books are called
1/ Holy Grail Across the Atlantic-The Secret History of Canadian Discovery and Exploration" (1988)
2/ Grail Knights of North America - On the Trail of the Grail Legacy in Canada and the United States" (1998)
3/ Swords at Sunset - last Stand of North America's Grail Knights" (2004)

In this series Bradley outlines his many infield discoveries, including being taken to see existing remains of a 14th c. 'castle' in Nova Scotia, as well as his 'speculations' about settlements by Prince Henry's remaining 400+ Knights Templars.

He traces their descendants' spread from Nova Scotia to NY state, Vermont area, ending with settlements along Lake Ontario and throughout the Niagara region. In his opinion the finally tally was about 13,000 descendants, until they were assimilated or massacred about 250 years later. (DNA findings among natives in the area does actually prove some mixed race lineage with Scandinavian markers.)

BTW He also links the Mormon bible with the settlement. Joseph Smith was among many 'treasure hunters' in the Vermont area. The writings that Smith later used in his bible apparently have eerie echos to ancient Templar writings.

[Cartomancer]

I have noticed that and thought it was a wild synchromystic thing! I recently came across another Avalon clue in my work. The Avalon Peninsula in Newfoundland was named by Bacon and his Colony there was named Cupids (eros god of love). Interestingly he may have chosen the spot for Avalon and Cupids based on the ancient directional systems that I have been talking about. Rosslyn Chapel is due north of Glastonbury Tor and may have been placed this way intentionally.

Personal synchromystic note: My mother is from just three miles north of Cupids!!

The Avalon in Newfoundland included Cupids one of the Colonies Bacon had an interest in including Jamestown Virginia. Part of my theory is that he used the same ley line to place Cupids that was used to hide the Oak Island Treasure. Many legends say his papers or what is known as Bacons Vault is indeed the Oak Island Treasure.

The Oak Island Treasure may more likely have been brought by a group of Templars earlier than Bacon - in the 14th c. The Templar group came to begin the New Arcadia and was headed by Henry I Sinclair (c. 1345 – c. 1400) Baron of Roslin and Earl of Orkney, a Scottish nobleman and grandfather of William Sinclair 1st Earl of Caithness the builder of Rosslyn Chapel.

At dissolution in 1312 the western Templars fled from Portugal to Scotland. Much of the Templar treasure was taken with them to Portugal and funded centuries of sea projects to the New World.

I posted a reference to a series of excellent research books on the subject here:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?9584-Swedes-brought-Templars-to-MN-to-hide-ancient-treasures-in-1342.../page3

Written by Toronto researcher Michael Bradley, the 3 part series of books are called
1/ Holy Grail Across the Atlantic-The Secret History of Canadian Discovery and Exploration" (1988)
2/ Grail Knights of North America - On the Trail of the Grail Legacy in Canada and the United States" (1998)
3/ Swords at Sunset - last Stand of North America's Grail Knights" (2004)

In this series Bradley outlines his many infield discoveries, including being taken to see existing remains of a 14th c. 'castle' in Nova Scotia, as well as his 'speculations' about settlements by Prince Henry's remaining 400+ Knights Templars.

He traces their descendants' spread from Nova Scotia to NY state, Vermont area, ending with settlements along Lake Ontario and throughout the Niagara region. In his opinion the finally tally was about 13,000 descendants, until they were assimilated or massacred about 250 years later. (DNA findings among natives in the area does actually prove some mixed race lineage with Scandinavian markers.)

BTW He also links the Mormon bible with the settlement. Joseph Smith was among many 'treasure hunters' in the Vermont area. The writings that Smith later used in his bible apparently have eerie echos to ancient Templar writings.

Amazing. Thank you for the new sources. I covered many of these topics in my last book 'Axis Mundi.' Yet I have never read any of the sources you noted. I have found evidence linking Joseph Smith to the Knights Templar Strict Observance A.R. I have also found some wild spatial associations with the discovery site of the Golden Tablets to the Great Pyramid of Giza. In addition I found a significant portion of the Newark Earthworks in Ohio oriented towards the Great Pyramid of Giza. The NW diagonal of the GPOG creates an azimuth on the globe along which the Golden Tablets were found and a specific earthen structure at Newark were intentionally oriented.

Within the central portion of this feature was found a burial that included a stone inscribed with the ten commandments in Hebrew! The statue also depicted a Goddess figure with stellated crown like the statue of Liberty. The City of Memphis Tennessee and the Pyramid there are oriented along this same azimuth. Memphis is the official sister city of Memphis Egypt. The Serepent Mound in Ohio is also located very near this azimuth or Ley Line. Here are links to two videos I made about Newark and the Secret Maps of the Knights Templar. These both touch on subjects you brought up in your post.

Newark Earthworks and the Golden Tablets of Joseph Smith:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5S7KJi0waTM

Secret Maps of the Knights Templar

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ER9g_L9EQRc

I have a video coming soon about Glastonbury and Avebury!

[TWINCANS]

Very interesting work. I'm just finishing The Secret Maps of the Knights Templar but something else came to mind.

The group who wrote Shakespeare included another major investor in the Jamestown project - Sir Henry Neville. So that links to Bacon.

I don't know if you have heard of The School of Night. There is a link to all those of the time - Marlowe, etc to this 'school' that was very frowned upon by Elizabeth I and her supporters. The School of Night were (gasp) atheists. I suspect they were more than that.

As to the Joseph Smith connection and the golden tablets, Michael Bradley's partner is/was a former Mormon and so she was able to make some interesting connections very quickly. He covers those in his book. Not sure which book but I have all three so if you are interested I can look it up.

[Aurvandil]

Thanks for this thread, very interesting topic. A lot of questions suddenly got their answers, very interesting symbolism. Wonder how Dann Boyle created the plot for the show.

I recognized the shape of the hill at the opening show but couldn´t figure out where I had seen it, now I know...

And I have yet to see any comments about the very clear pyramid towers with their ben-ben top, all around the Olympic Stadium...

[Cartomancer]

I have never heard of the School of Night though I will now check it out. There is kind of a thread of philosophy attached to Bacon that rejects Christianity in favor of rationalism but he and many of his adherents seemed to at least believe in God. Thomas Jefferson and James Madison seemed to value Bacon and his New Atlantis ideas as they both displayed his values through their lives. I believe Bacon was clued into the art of navigation by John Dee who legend states may have regained ancient knowledge by something he learned or realized at Glastonbury.

Dee had a relationship and may have studied under Gerhardus Mercator who invented one of the earliest usable map projections that displayed the entire globe on a flat map. Prior to this time navigators and priests may have used globes some of which where likely very large to plot directions. Some illustrations of Dee even show him holding a globe and geometry compass as if he was measuring azimuths.

Joseph Smith is such a character. A lot of the information I have gathered about him came from a book I stumbled on entitled "The Book of the Holy Grail." This book is said to have been written by Joseph of Arimathea at Rennes Le Chateau. The book is later said to have been edited from French to English by Thomas Jefferson and then again by French minister to the US Henry Mercier. The book contains what is said to be the Merovingian bible and this was the original older portion of the book. The newer portion written by strange named author J.R. Ploughmann goes off on tangents that include the Knights Templar being "vampires of the pyche" and some being immortal in the tradition of St. Germain and Bacon.

I have come to view this part of the book as mostly unbelievable but what he is saying is backed up by facts I have found out concerning St. Germain and his role in creating the order of strict observance in France and Germany and beyond. The parts about Thomas Jefferson and Joseph Smith being members of the Knights Templar Strict Observance make sense given the mens relationship to the alignment of events and places of talismanic importance over the globe. This book may well represent a prime example of how secret societies and occult groups 'tell the truth' in a form that may not later believed by many. Henry Lincoln cracked the Rennes Le Chateau mystery by reading 'Le Tresure du Modit' and finding an obvious code in a pulpy book he bought to read on vacation.

I think there is a large difference within the Mormon Church as to how Joseph Smith is viewed. He is considered a prophet. I think Smith may have seen artifacts like the statue recovered at the Newark Earthworks and this may have contributed to his beliefs that a lost tribe of Israel had come to North America long ago. That is possible as many espouse that the Phoenicians came to the Americas and influenced Central and South American culture as well. More likely is that people with similar beliefs to Henry Sinclair who came in the twelfth century may have left or influenced the presence of seeming Hebrew artifacts in North America. This may have also led to them working with and influencing the orientation of the Newark Earthworks and Serpent Mound. In the end the smaller numbers of Europeans led to their culture being overshadowed or interpreted differently by the aboriginal population. As time went on any trace of their influence disappeared except some items of material culture and things like the Newark Earthworks. There may be a written record of these events somewhere. Joseph Smith and Thomas Jefferson may have been privy to this truth. Jefferson and later F.D.R.'s value of the site of the future International Peace Garden may confirm that fact.

It all ties back to Glastonbury and "007" Dr. John Dee.

[Ishtar]

My own view would be that anything ascribed to the authorship of Joseph of Arimethea would have to be a fake, for the same reasons that I part company with the whole Merovingian bloodline thing, and that is my own research has led me to understand all scriptures and sacred texts as allegorical teaching aids for the Mysteries, including the New Testament.

I'm not alone in this and it was the way they were commonly viewed by philosophers of the time, like Philo of Alexandria in the last century of the BCs. The Gnostics around then (first Pagan Gnostics, then Christian Gnostics) also viewed the stories as allegorical and it wasn't until the 2nd century AD revisionist, Bishop Irenaeus, who turned what had been regarded as metaphorical teaching stories to teach natural philosophy (including astronomy) about a dying and resurrecting sun god (of whch similar tales were found all over the Middle East, Mesopotamia, Babylon and India at that time) were turned into the story of a real dying and resurrecting human being.

Iraenaus decreed that only Matthew, Mark, Luke and John could be included in the Canon of the New Testament, and the Gnostics, who had believed their stories to be allegorical, buried their texts.. some were recovered at the beginning of the last century in Nag Hammadi in Egypt.

Any Gnostic who didn't accept that Jesus was a real man that lived and died and rose again was persecuted and murdered. These Gnostics included many groups including the Nazerenes, the Valentinians, the Paulians and many others. Some managed to cling on longer than others. We know the Gnostics viewed Jesus as an mythical character from the writings of Irenaeus, who is continually complaining about it, and other commentators of the time. Plus the Roman commentator Josephus was in Jerusalem only thirty years after when the crucifixion was supposed to have taken place, and yet doesn't even mention anything about a Jesus, or anyone like him.

Arianism is a much later form of Gnosticism which, in keeping with the times (3rd century AD), propagated the story of a real living Jesus ~ and Catharism didn't emerge until about the 1100s AD, which is even later.

To get to the real story of Jesus, I found I had to go back further than 1 AD, which in itself is a false marker on the calendar. I eventually realised that the story was not even written in Jerusalem at that time, or any other, but was composed in Antioch and Alexandria by Greeks quite probably in the pay of the Romans.

It is for this reason that the Templars and the Freemasons found it so easy to run their own story in a subterranean way through all the Roman Christian and later Norman church architecture of the time. Most of the painters and architects were members of the Brotherhood too, and gave clues in their works. The symbols contained in the sacred geometry, architecture, stained glass windows and so on told the story that they understood to be true, in code, of the mythical dying sun god, who resurrected after three days, knowing full well that it was about the winter solstice sun that 'stands still' for three days before beginning its return again. Meanwhile the rest of the masses were told that it was a story about a real Son of God who died for our sins, in order partly to keep us in ignorance about how stuff works, and partly to institute the idea of Original Sin and thus give the Church the ability to control us.

Even Emperor Constantine, who established the literal form of Christianity in the 4th century AD as the state religion for his burgeoning empire, retained his own understanding and remained a 'pagan' until the day he died.

I've written about all this in much more detail in A Greco-Roman Tragedy (http://ishtarsgate.wordpress.com/2011/04/19/sacred-drum-test-post/).

[Cartomancer]

I'd have to agree with you that most of the information out there from the past is metaphorical including anything ascribed to Joseph of Arimethea A great deal of what can be found is out and out B.S. but you have to strive for what is true or backed up by other sources. What I thought interesting about the 'Book of the Holy Grail' was the fact that it was likely contrived but with some knowledge of the subject matter. The Rennes Le Chateau mystery in particular has exposed many dodges or false clues and lines of reasoning in relation to the mystery there. Watch the movie "Bloodline" on youtube for a great example of this. Also watch 'The Holy Grail in America' if you have not already. It talks about the Kensington Runestone and its date of 1362.

Some of the things you read hints that Constantine and subsequent Byzantine and Roman rulers knew the actual truth of Christ and may have kept these details to themselves and later the Church. Many overlook the differences between the Byzantines and the Romans. The Byzantines were Greek speakers and writers and culturally significantly different from western Rome. I think Justinian II is especially interesting in that he had to struggle a great deal to retain his crown. In the process of his rule it is easier to see the imperial mechanizations and manipulation he had to use to get what he wanted done. In the end it was skullduggery that did him in though he was a master of that craft.

I also could not agree more with your thoughts on how artists and architects were there to make sure all the correct symbolism and dimensions were included in significant structures and events (like the Olympics). I think this still applies today and many overlook this now as they did in the past.

The truth of Jesus is obviously interpretive to many. It is easy to see why rationally minded people would take to appreciating him as a man with a revolutionary philosophy as opposed to a deity or object of worship.

[Ishtar]

Yes, and this is why I thank you for all the work you've been producing on the Byzantium side, because you are quite right, it does get forgotten. I think our ancestors were all very well trained by the Roman Christians to ignore the Byzantium side of the story, especially as the Byzantines allowed God to keep his wife (Sophia). ;)

Also, your azimuth work has added importance in exposing a common mistake of scholars ~ not to realise how cosmopolitan the spiritual teachers were at that time. Some scholars make the mistake of studying systems of thought as if they stopped at the political and geographical borders we recognise today, not daring to cross without a passport or a visa. But as I'm sure you know, the teachers of these times did not recognise political and geographical borders and wandered around all over the civilised world, telling their stories and selling their dreams.

According to my understanding, the stories which ended up on the Sumerian tablets, the Indian Vedas, and the Greek, Egyptian and Hebrew texts originally came from a common stock which was composed orally when all the Indo-European speaking tribes were holed up together around the Caucusus region and Siberia, just after the last Ice Age about 12,000 years ago.

These different tribes gradually migrated to all points south, east and west, ahead of the melting glaciers, and carried their stories with them. Over time, the stories took on more local characteristics according to where they ended up and then they were embellished by the wandering priests and bards of successive ages. But the core of the stories are the same. To me they are metaphors for astronomical processes. Just the names of the heroes and heroines get changed.

Spiritual teachings were also taught via the Mysteries through shamanic techniques where the adepts were put in touch directly with the spirits. When one is directly in touch with the spirits, as an individual, there is no need for religions or priests purporting to act as middlemen to the 'gods' or spirits.

The rot sent in once guys with beards started coming down from mountains with the tablets in hand, engraved with "what God told me you must do". :rolleyes:

[Cartomancer]

It is almost as if a priesthood of women and men have always existed whose goal is to propagate their faith using some of these monuments as axes and others as talismans related to that axis. Then they create a faith similar to the mother faith with regard to the cultural aspects of a given region. That seems kind of simple but it seems to be what is going on. This may be evident in the development of the Mormon faith as well as the kind of New Age lore that seems to be intentionally created at Mt. Shasta or the Denver Airport for example. A mystique is always part of the equation in many of these places. There has to be a good yarn associated like a treasure or ghost story, UFO, etc. Not to say those things aren't possibly real as well. We see this even on Mars in the form of Cydonia or the face on Mars.

I have recently been reading about the Couch of Typhus in Turkey. This may have been the original site of oracular divination that inspired later oracles such as Delphi and Dodona in Greece. All of the same geographical place names are associated with TCOT and Delphi. TCOT more closely resembles Roman geographer Strabo's description of the site. The Couch of Typhus is much older and some scholars believe that the Greeks simply moved the same tradition closer to home at their whim to Delphi. I have found this site closely related to important events in the life of Justinian II. It is also located on an azimuth generated from the Dome of the Rock which may have actually been built by Justinian as his axis.

The Couch of Typhus is where Zeus/Baal battled the fifty headed reptile known as the Typhus. Zeus lost and his body parts were reassembled in a cave and brought back to life by Hermes and Pan.

The Couch of Typhus:

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An early Christian Church hidden in the Couch of Typhus:

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[mahalall]

Glastonbury Tor is a beacon of immense light energy.

What helped me to see the Tor for what it is, was when residing at the tor for a short period last summer, with kundalinic practises and by meditating on the question whilst observing the hill, "it is not what is on the tor but what's in it!" the key was turned and the greeness of the region dissolved into radiant love.

Its relevance as a symbol at the Olympics is a little easier to understand, of bringing people and the world together for higher union values. Having shared the Olympic energy in London this weekend, the city (if only temporarily) has moved up a few frequencies.

[TWINCANS]

Another thought comes to mind here. British researcher Peter Dawkins is an expert on Francis Bacon and now runs this geomancy organization. I ran across his work in the 1980's when he began The Gatekeeper Trust.

http://www.zoence.com/

[Ishtar]

I've just heard about Tom Brook's new book Seeing Around Corners (http://www.prehistoric-geometry.co.uk/) which is about long straight tracks aligning sacred sites in the Mesolithic Era in Britain.

I think it begs the question ... was the geomancy of the secret societies (Templars et al) just piggy-backing on existing work carried out thousands of years before?


Tom Brooks brings to light, after a lifetime's study, his many discoveries that provide easy to follow mathematical confirmation of the employment of properties such as Isosceles and Pythagorean triangulation to create landscape patterns coast to coast in Mesolithic and Neolithic Britain.

Such patterns include long distance alignments unknown to all the many previous writers on the subject – alignments that themselves are integral sections of the geodetic scheme that reaches across 300 miles linking prehistoric features such as hill camps, long barrows, standing stones, cairns, circles and earthen mounds. Many of these alignments are still evident today as paths, tracks, parish boundaries and even trunk roads, many such examples being illustrated in this new, illuminating work.

The scale of this ancient survey is vast while its planning and execution is bewilderingly accurate, particularly in view of the hostile post Ice Age conditions of the time. Learn of the true purpose of Silbury Hill and its pivotal role in the Grand Scheme as well as the critical function of a single standing stone on a remote island. Learn of the trackways we can still explore today that formed part of the prehistoric geometry of yesteryear and how the most innocuous small tumulus was encoded to lead the ancient traveller to more distant objectives...

Perhaps the greatest revelation is that with the ancient surveyors' uncanny judgement of distance and angulation to all points of the compass, mathematics had its beginnings not in the Middle Eastern countries in historic time as is the current established belief, but some three millennia earlier in Prehistoric Britain. The straightforward calculation work upon which this treatise is based undeniably substantiates this staggering claim.




Read more and buy the book here (http://www.prehistoric-geometry.co.uk/).

[TWINCANS]

Ishtar, I suspect that is exactly true. I have read about a very early pre-Egypt, pre-Babylon etc. religion that was, for a better term, called The Great Western Goddess Worship. Even before the Druids who were rather late on the scene.

It was stated that this Great Western Goddess (earth) religion was the origin of all religions (but of course once the God went on top the whole idea was corrupted.)

This dovetails with the fact that there is a single completely unique DNA that does not come from the African line - from the Scandinavian area. Also that King Tut and his family carried that European gene.

So not only from the standing stones and ley line constructs, but from a belief system too, we see that there is a lost body of knowledge that was held somewhere in the West... Atlantis? Why not.

[Ishtar]

I was nodding contentedly in full agreement with you all the way through, TwinCans, until you used the A word!! :eek:

I agree that there must be a vast treasure trove of knowledge that has been lost which we're only just starting to uncover. There's also a lot of lands that have gone under the sea for various reasons.

But out of all the many possible locations that have been proposed for Atlantis, not one of them fits very exact description given by Plato. It's my belief that Plato never meant his Atlantis to be taken as a real place, because the numbers he used in its design were a sort of Pythagorean code and like all myths, it was designed to carry teachings about universal truths and natural philsophy, and was not to be read as history.

There is a lot more underpinning my belief that Atlantis wasn't a real place, because one can almost read it as another Deluge myth, like Noah's Ark. I've managed to amass more than 30 of those worldwide, some much older than the Noah one. On top of that, I understand the metaphor for Deluge to be End of Days, or End of a Day of Brahma, which is a complete precessional cycle. I go into a lot more detail about how I think this works in Why Mythologists Don't Believe Atlantis Was A Real Place (http://www.ishtarsgate.com/forum/showthread.php?3114-Why-Mythologists-Don-t-Believe-In-Atlantis)

[TWINCANS]

My only problem with the idea that Atlantis did not exist is what do I do with my memories of the place?

[Ishtar]

My only problem with the idea that Atlantis did not exist is what do I do with my memories of the place?

Perhaps I should amend what I said. When I said it didn't exist, I meant there is no evidence for it in this dimension.

The shaman walks back and forth through many dimensions and so it' s important to keep the liminal walls in place between them all ~ otherwise, you'd go mad.

[Ishtar]

Cort, I've been wondering about your comparisons between hexagons and octagons and not being able to figure out which chronological direction they go in? It would be interesting to know.

I used the octagon shape as a basis for an etheric sun temple I've built here in Glastonbury, after learning about it from John Michell's New Jerusalem Model. Michell had discovered that this diagram served as the design (blueprint) for many sacred sites, including Stonehenge, The Great Pyramid, St. Mary’s Chapel at Glastonbury and the City of Magnesia in Plato’s The Laws.

It is based on the number 864, which is a cosmological number.

There are 8,640 million years in a Day and Night of Brahma and 86,400 seconds in a 24 hour day.

That’s why the numbers 8 and 64 crop up so often ~ for instance, there are 64 hexgrams in the i-Ching, 64 sections to the Eye of the Horus, 64 squares on a chess board etc etc. 64 is the atomic weight of copper which is the metal associated with Venus, previously known as Ishtar. Lord Shiva has 64 manifestations and there are 64 Dakinis in the Vedic Indian literature. 8 x 8 = 64, and so 88 is a very special number.

The eighth of the eight gates (88) of Babylon was Ishtar’s Gate, dedicated to the goddess Ishtar and the holiest gate in Babylon. It would only be used on holy days when great processions would leave the city and pass through Ishtar’s Gate to the ziggurat dedicated to Marduk.

http://blog.world-mysteries.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/NJ_ICN.jpg

NOTE: The New Jerusalem Diagram is also known as The Cosmological Circle.

Read more here: The New Jerusalem Model (http://www.ishtarsgate.com/forum/showthread.php?3128-The-New-Jerusalem-Model)