Beware of false prophets.

[AMystic3434]

Isnt that what the bible says. It just seems that you have all these channelled messages about the galatic federation of light and how the ETs are coming but it never seem to happen. They always have a different excuse. Is it misleading people to believe something that is not true? Is it possible that these people are the false prophets that are talked about in the bible.

[The Arthen]

Isnt that what the bible says. It just seems that you have all these channelled messages about the galatic federation of light and how the ETs are coming. Is it possible that these people are the false prophets that are talked about in the bible.


Doesn't matter if it's the Bible of the GFL. Boil it all down to which bits resonates with you at the moment in time, and that's about it. There's parts of the Bible that's just pure bull too. As far as the GFL is concerned - all you need is yourself.

The true higher power will never present itself due to too many false prophets. Instead it has to present itself in ways you never even imagined. And by the time you found it out - it's already gone on to present itself in other ways you won't predict.

Least that's where I am for now.

[wobbegong]

AMystic3434, I believe you are focusing on something that is and will be more and more the reason for great confusion that will increase at a galloping rate. Many threads here at Avalon discuss related issues but I think it's a very good idea to address this specifically - so thanks mate.
Personally I resonated with this passage:
"Many people today are very ambitious regarding spirituality and spiritual direction. They think really that they are messengers (...I add: "messengers" intended as prophets) for God and that their beliefs, associations and ideals are really something bigger than they are. And they insist upon this position, not understanding that God’s Messages are rarely given. They have assigned themselves to be God’s representatives, but they are not, not really, not in this way. It is their ambition and their ideology that drive them on, that makes them make these assumptions and that make them think and believe, even fervently, that they are so endowed with the Divine. They claim that their messages are profound and come from a greater source. But this is not true because God’s Messages are rare, as we have said. They are not given frequently. They are never given to the ambitious and they are never given to those who would assign themselves splendid roles.
Indeed, those chosen to be the true Messengers are reluctant, even to the point of self-denial. They don’t really want the job. But they will accept it because of who asks it of them. They don’t really want to shine in the world as an Emissary or as a Messenger. This is almost painful to them. They are more retiring, more private, more discreet, and yet these are the ones who are chosen to be the real Messengers, and there are not many of them. Everyone else is chosen or appointed to support the Message.
It is not necessary for God to communicate profound Messages to humanity very often. This is a very serious thing. It does not happen that often. And yet the ambitious will assign themselves the role and the privilege of delivering messages from a higher source. Unfortunately, these people often become representatives of the Intervention and proponents of the whole Pacification Program. They have very strong views about what is spiritual, and then they appeal to higher powers to substantiate what they believe and to anoint them as the representatives of a greater truth. How perfect this is for the Intervention.
People who assign themselves these roles and responsibilities are not the Emissaries of the Creator. At best, they are the emissaries of their own ambition and their own failed ideologies. At worse, they fall into service to powers that they cannot even recognize and begin to endorse, represent and propose things, the source of which is unknown to them. They have claimed that they are not the authors of their own demonstration, and because they do not want to even think that they are the authors of their own demonstration, they will naturally appeal to any other source that to them represents a kind of spiritual power.
It is this kind of self-deception, it is this kind of self-glorification that would make one extremely vulnerable to manipulation from beyond. ..."
The source I got it from is the only one that, after decades of research, has never let me down (Marshall Vian Summers - www.newmessage.org). Any source that claims to be from a higher spiritual realm and then makes a wrong prediction, re-schedules its predictions etc. should IMO be discarded.

[humanalien]

The false prophets are us. We tell others that so and so said this and it
sounded so good to me that i believed it. Then i told my friend that so
and so said this and my friend believed it. My friend told her friend and
......, See how the false prophet works?

Quit believing every little thing your told by others, just because they
are popular with everyone else. Being popular does mean that they speak
the truth.

[CD7]

Isnt that what the bible says. It just seems that you have all these channelled messages about the galatic federation of light and how the ETs are coming but it never seem to happen. They always have a different excuse. Is it misleading people to believe something that is not true? Is it possible that these people are the false prophets that are talked about in the bible.

LOL!! I think this is one of the best predictions ive heard yet!!!!! YES beware of false prophecies....how bout beware of false EVERYTHING everywhere!...yes tht seems more accurate!!!

[wobbegong]

The false prophets are us. We tell others that so and so said this and it
sounded so good to me that i believed it. Then i told my friend that so
and so said this and my friend believed it. My friend told her friend and
......, See how the false prophet works?

Quit believing every little thing your told by others, just because they
are popular with everyone else. Being popular does mean that they speak
the truth.

Speak for yourself humanalien, people on this forum read information with discernment and like to share it and discuss it.

[danceblackcatdance]

the bible also says that god told adam and eve that they would die if they ate from the tree of knowledge and that was a lie... but the serpent told the truth :eyebrows:

question is does god lie or does man lie whilst pretending it's the word of god...

i'd say the latter..

[KosmicKat]

Isnt that what the bible says. It just seems that you have all these channelled messages about the galatic federation of light and how the ETs are coming but it never seem to happen. They always have a different excuse. Is it misleading people to believe something that is not true? Is it possible that these people are the false prophets that are talked about in the bible.
Would you discuss the possibility that the majority of these channeled messages are the product of (for want of a more clearly-defined term) the human subconscious mind? Perhaps the subconscious is hearing things from a superhuman source, but unless the message is truly channeled there will be some interference as the subconscious tries to relate concepts, some of which may never have been encountered previously, to things it already comprehends? And of course, the subconscious insists on expressing itself, whether it is trying to pass forward a message received from an external source, or its own.

[humanalien]

[QUOTE=humanalien;529275]The false prophets are us. We tell others that so and so said this and it
sounded so good to me that i believed it. Then i told my friend that so
and so said this and my friend believed it. My friend told her friend and
......, See how the false prophet works?

Quit believing every little thing your told by others, just because they
are popular with everyone else. Being popular does mean that they speak
the truth.

"Speak for yourself humanalien, people on this forum read information with discernment and like to share it and discuss it."


I think that what i posted was sound advice, yet i was treated like i am of no
importance here by you. I demand a duel and i will supply the squirt guns....

[another bob]

A missionary of the Galactic Fantastic Federation, who claimed to be able to channel their messages across space/time, once visited Ixnay and asked if he could speak to the Lumens, in order to spread the good news from the Kalon Elders.

Ixnay shrugged and nodded assent.

The missionary, unfamiliar with the local vernacular, had an interpreter with him. He stood before the Lumens and announced:

"Your Kalon Family of Light has determined that they will intervene in your planet's ascension into the next dimension!"

The Lumens all thought that was hilarious. They raised their hands in the air and yelled "Kaplocky!"

The missionary continued:

“This involves the complete removal of all evil conspiratorial parasites by the special powers and cosmic devices that Kalons possess!"

The Greebs all had big smiles on their faces and yelled "Kaplocky!" for the second time.

Finally, he said:

"The Kalons have giant space ships that will land and then take you to the higher reaches of Omada, where you will enjoy domestic bliss and happy animal husbandry with no strings attached!"

At that the Greebs all collapsed in fits of laughter, yelping "Kaplocky! Kaplocky!"

When the missionary was finished with his announcement, he was escorted to the edge of the village and given directions to the next stop on the journey.

Ixnay made one final remark to the interpreter and then went back to the village. The interpreter looked at the missionary and told him the parting message.

Apparently there was a large herd of cattle about a mile up the road, and Ixnay had suggested that the visitors watch where they walk, so as to avoid stepping in any Kaplocky.

[gooty64]

Why would anyone want to go to Omaha anyway?


A missionary of the Galactic Fantastic Federation, who claimed to be able to channel their messages across space/time, once visited Ixnay and asked if he could speak to the Lumens, in order to spread the good news from the Kalon Elders.

Ixnay shrugged and nodded assent.

The missionary, unfamiliar with the local vernacular, had an interpreter with him. He stood before the Lumens and announced:

"Your Kalon Family of Light has determined that they will intervene in your planet's ascension into the next dimension!"

The Lumens all thought that was hilarious. They raised their hands in the air and yelled "Kaplocky!"

The missionary continued:

“This involves the complete removal of all evil conspiratorial parasites by the special powers and cosmic devices that Kalons possess!"

The Greebs all had big smiles on their faces and yelled "Kaplocky!" for the second time.

Finally, he said:

"The Kalons have giant space ships that will land and then take you to the higher reaches of Omada, where you will enjoy domestic bliss and happy animal husbandry with no strings attached!"

At that the Greebs all collapsed in fits of laughter, yelping "Kaplocky! Kaplocky!"

When the missionary was finished with his announcement, he was escorted to the edge of the village and given directions to the next stop on the journey.

Ixnay made one final remark to the interpreter and then went back to the village. The interpreter looked at the missionary and told him the parting message.

Apparently there was a large herd of cattle about a mile up the road, and Ixnay had suggested that the visitors watch where they walk, so as to avoid stepping in any Kaplocky.

[SummerSolsticeChild]

Now, I'm not one to make up my mind on any conclusion. Once you think you know everything you have no urge or need to learn anything more, and therefore if you know it all you are ignorant. It does not hurt to experiment with different states of mind and different ideas as long as you realize that you don't really KNOW ANYTHING. If you had read my previous forum I posted that at the time I believed that most of the people in the world are demonic figures, or evil entities. The other night I was with my new roommates, the power went out and the door opened again. I felt stronger evil entities around me, hinting and the fact that they would kill me, essentially, I didn't care.

I went into another room, separate from them, and got on my knees and prayed to God, for a good ten minutes. I discovered that these entities around you are not evil, or aliens, they are a test from your mother/father God, to allow you to join Him. Immediately I noticed a change in the people who I was with, and a change in myself, they were my parents God came to save me. The whole next day at work, every single person who walked into the store was God, all of them smiling and making good conversation.

That is just an example of how not making up your mind is a tool you can use. When you truly believe something about your reality and will forever, it is set in stone, and cannot be changed. A truly powerful mind is one who can take in information and determine the usefulness of the information in their perspective, it helped with me. I am going to experiment more with different mind states in the future, none to dark anymore. But remember you NEVER KNOW ANYTHING.

Regards

[Gridkeeper]

Isnt that what the bible says. It just seems that you have all these channelled messages about the galatic federation of light and how the ETs are coming. Is it possible that these people are the false prophets that are talked about in the bible.


Doesn't matter if it's the Bible of the GFL. Boil it all down to which bits resonates with you at the moment in time, and that's about it. There's parts of the Bible that's just pure bull too. As far as the GFL is concerned - all you need is yourself.

The true higher power will never present itself due to too many false prophets. Instead it has to present itself in ways you never even imagined. And by the time you found it out - it's already gone on to present itself in other ways you won't predict.

Least that's where I am for now.

So true. This symbol is a catalyst for change. The flower of life symbol has been used for many years. It has also been used by corrupt organizations and secret societies for a long time now. It is a key and this year the wave frequency contained within this symbol was activated from pure source. I am one of those who have been tasked to gift it to the world. The black and white symbol contains all the colours. It will effect anyone who comes into contact with it and when the waves hit, you will know about it. Nothing can stop it's power, nothing. It is ALL healing. It has been given to many religions and secret societies including grand masters and various lodges including the vatican. I have seen the dark side of the military's response to this and they are on edge. You're right in saying that changes will happen in ways we never imagined. There's so much disinformation in the world and the divine plan is so simple and brilliant that it will cut straight through it. The fruits from this will be seen by everyone on the planet in some way and there is much more to all this than et disclosure, much more. It will be brilliant. When you see the fruits you will know it.

Everyone on the planet will be in some way touched by the signature of this All Powerful symbol. When you look at it now it will reflect back at you what you need to know. It will awaken you and you will experience what you need. Sorry to be vague but this will touch each individual that comes into contact with it in unique ways. Someone carrying the signature in their light body/matrix could walk past you in the street or even look at you and you will be touched by it.

Who I really am is not important. What is important is that the world sees the divine fruits for themselves.
Unconditional Love and The 22/44 Fully Activated Flower Of Life - Shine Bright 2012
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZOgRJVI2zM

[wobbegong]

I think that what i posted was sound advice, yet i was treated like i am of no
importance here by you. I demand a duel and i will supply the squirt guns....

...mmmm...squirt guns...only water I hope? LoL
Anyway, sorry about the harsh remark, you actually are important to me and you sound like a very nice person (also for not responding with the same harshness). It's not that I consider your advice all wrong, it's just that right after I try to share something, you say nah, stop believing every little thing, we're all false prophets etc. ...well it did kind of rub me the wrong way, you know what I mean? In my opinion, I would sort of modify what you wrote and say that we could all potentially, not necessarily, be false prophets. I hope I did better this time and we can stick to the (water) squirt guns:-)

[ghostrider]

I like to think of it this way, beware of giving my power to someone else. The only one predicting my future is me.

[humanalien]

I think that what i posted was sound advice, yet i was treated like i am of no
importance here by you. I demand a duel and i will supply the squirt guns....

...mmmm...squirt guns...only water I hope? LoL
Anyway, sorry about the harsh remark, you actually are important to me and you sound like a very nice person (also for not responding with the same harshness). It's not that I consider your advice all wrong, it's just that right after I try to share something, you say nah, stop believing every little thing, we're all false prophets etc. ...well it did kind of rub me the wrong way, you know what I mean? In my opinion, I would sort of modify what you wrote and say that we could all potentially, not necessarily, be false prophets. I hope I did better this time and we can stick to the (water) squirt guns:-)

It was just by chance that i posted right after your post but none of my
post was directed at you or anyone here. I was referring to people in general,
world wide.

Anyway, i'm sorry if i upset you. I really didn't think that i said anything
that hasn't already been said before. I feel that i have a right to post my opinions,
even if they aren't popular ones as long as i don't associate forum members with
my post.

We are cool now but now i have to upgrade to a super soaker. A man has to
protect himself, you know.... :victory:

[Unified Serenity]

the bible also says that god told adam and eve that they would die if they ate from the tree of knowledge and that was a lie... but the serpent told the truth :eyebrows:

question is does god lie or does man lie whilst pretending it's the word of god...

i'd say the latter..

Actually, they did die, and as always Lucifer/Satan/Abaddon/Apollyon/Destroyer/Son of Perdition/Great Dragon among a few of his names.... is a liar. "A thousand years is as a day and a day is as a thousand years to the Lord".

[danceblackcatdance]

hey Unified Serenity :) i don't believe in 'the bible', i've made my position clear that i don't waste faith in man masquerading as a vengeful god, besides all mortals die... but it wasn't because of the tree... so, either way....

[observer]

Isnt that what the bible says. It just seems that you have all these channelled messages about the galatic federation of light and how the ETs are coming but it never seem to happen. They always have a different excuse. Is it misleading people to believe something that is not true? Is it possible that these people are the false prophets that are talked about in the bible.

On the subject of 'false prophets', and with no intentions of derailing this thread, I would like to present an alternative interpretation of prophecy.

For the sake of a foundational understanding, allow me to offer an optional explanation as to where it is that the Mass of Humanity dwells.

A lengthily investigation of all the available evidence will conclude that we are dwelling within a 'locked-down' density (dimension). One interpretation would suggest, this particular three dimensional reality was spicifically created as a place for the 'fallen' to dwell. The evidence will show, this place is an endless a$$-biting-loop of birth-death-rebirth. Only those capable of figuring-out the conundrum can ascend out of here, and back to the God of Unconditional Love, from whence we all separated.

If one considers this as a possibility, one must also conclude that there is an hyperdimensional entity (or race of entities) that act as the 'prison wardens' to this 'locked-down' dimensional structure.

These 'prison wardens', or Archons (from antiquity), or, as I like to call them (from the evidence), a Reptilian Species, are using this place.... a place where access is restricted from all the rest of creation, as a well organized operation to harvest energies as a food crop - a soul farm.

Without boring the members with too much evidence in support of this thesis, let us move-on to the phenomenon of telepathically transmitted thoughts.

If, the above foundational understanding is accurate, (and I assure any member that there are years of research associated to this hypothesis) than any individual who would critically review this evidence, will immediately come to the conclusion that ALL telepathically transmitted thought is a primary function of keeping our species locked within this matrix.

Once one considers the evidence, it isn't at all difficult to conclude:

Everything we think we understand, is a part of a much bigger lie.... and the lie is different at every level of understanding.




[....snip]
Actually, they did die, and as always Lucifer/Satan/Abaddon/Apollyon/Destroyer/Son of Perdition/Great Dragon among a few of his names.... is a liar. "A thousand years is as a day and a day is as a thousand years to the Lord".

So to Serenity's list of liars, we must also add Yahweh, Allah, Krishna, and, yes even, Buddha, for all these dogmatic concepts were influenced by telepathically transmitted thoughts. Once one abandons the hypnotic trance, and clears the fog from one's mind, there simply is no other conclusion - all dogmatic religious belief systems were designed to enslave the soul of Human Kind into an eternity of sacrificing the best part of our soul-stuff to a reptilian feeding operation.

Nothing is.... has ever been, what it appears to be, and nothing has ever changed for the better - In spite of a continuous promise of better days, all the way back to the Dawn of Man.

They are very clever at what they do....

[Prodigal Son]

[QUOTE=AMystic3434;528933]Isnt that what the bible says. ....

I've always loved the Bible, but I must admit that it took me for a ride, and it was detrimental to my health..... until I learned of its allegorical wisdom. It's prophecies have not been proven infallible. In fact, many of them have failed.

Just a couple off the top of my head:

Damascus was never desolated....

Nor was Egypt for 40 years...

Or Tyre for that matter. It's still a thriving city today.

Prophecy was and is a psychic function.

Dictated from God.... not!!

Seers come in all forms. Some are good, some not so good.

It all had to do with the Akashic Record, the time-space continuum, and the ability to read it accurately.

However, human consciousness can override any and all prophecy. Otherwise, there is no free will.

If we are Co-Creators, prophecy of doom and gloom is nothing more than a warning. It is not cast in stone.


Everything we think we understand, is a part of a much bigger lie.... and the lie is different at every level of understanding.


So to Serenity's list of liars, we must also add Yahweh, Allah, Krishna, and, yes even, Buddha, for all these dogmatic concepts were influenced by telepathically transmitted thoughts. Once one abandons the hypnotic trance, and clears the fog from one's mind, there simply is no other conclusion - all dogmatic religious belief systems were designed to enslave the soul of Human Kind into an eternity of sacrificing the best part of our soul-stuff to a reptilian feeding operation.

Nothing is.... has ever been, what it appears to be, and nothing has ever changed for the better - In spite of a continuous promise of better days, all the way back to the Dawn of Man.



Having been raised in the ultimate Doomsday Fear Cult, the Jehovah's Witnesses, I am completely convinced that it all boils down to Love and Fear. These "demonic" entities, these "Reptilians", eat fear for breakfast lunch and dinner. Knowledge of the truth is key for all of us: We're all in this boat together, and death in not the end of anything but a mere transition of consciousness. Use the knowledge wisely, and the cabal can be defeated right here and right now!

[bogeyman]

If the world was ideal there would be no lies, wars or false prophets. Due to the nature of the world, the divisions between our selfs, people claiming all sort of messages will be present. These prophets do it for a number of reasons, personal power, money, attention or they actually believe what they are saying. It is difficult to distinguish between the truths and the lies, if misinformation and half truths are involved. They feed off peoples need for something better, hope as well and those that are desperate for a better life.

[Karunai]

There's always a wonderful solution for too much 'noise'.

Silence. : D

[humanalien]

Welcome back Unified Serenity...

[Falcor]

forgive me, im not very familiar with the christian bible. im not even that familiar on the process of channeling.

are the writings of the bible not 'channeled' in any way? as in......man writing from a higher voice or power inside of him?

[WanderingRogue]

the bible also says that god told adam and eve that they would die if they ate from the tree of knowledge and that was a lie... but the serpent told the truth :eyebrows:

question is does god lie or does man lie whilst pretending it's the word of god...

i'd say the latter..

I'm not going to totally defend the bible in its entirety...but Adam and Eve did die withint the day that they ate...I was always taught that the Hebrew word used for day in that passage was not in reference to a specific 24 hour period of time. Its like saying in my grandparents day, it's a reference to a time period that doesn't have a specific duration of time, but has an event that begins it and one to end it.

I found this: [e] bə·yō·wm בְּי֛וֹם the day.....at this site : http://biblos.com/genesis/2-17.htm

2 Peter 3:8 says, "With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day."

I think that instead of each of us trying to prove where everyones beliefs are wrong, that we could try looking at ways to make sense of things for what they are, pull what truth or knowledge we can from them, and then look for where all of our stories intersect. I think there is a possibility that we are all trying to say the same thing, but we are so stuck on making sure that every word is spoken perfectly and interpreted perfectly, that we lose sight of the big picture.

Just for kicks, take two stories you believe oppose each other, and then try to see if reasonable changes in understanding can bring the two stories into sync. For example, science says the earth has been in existence for millions of years due to thier study of the earth itself, but many Christians believe that is has only been here for 7 thousand years or so...the Hebrew word for day can mean an indeterminant amount of time....could it be that yes, the earth has been here for millions of years, and the bible simply tries to give explanation of the phases the earth went through in terms of days...it's not a cure all to suddenly make the bible, science, or any other story suddenly become 100% provable, but it does help to start seeing how maybe we are all holding a piece of the same puzzle. ;)

[danceblackcatdance]

i believe in Source because its kinda hard to dispute All-That-Is...

but the bible is generally make-believe (as far as I'm concerned) although i'm happy to play the game :becky:


The Bible lists three types of death. There is physical death when the body dies. A second type of death is spiritual death - a separation of the spirit from the body. A third type of death is eternal death - permanent separation of humanity from God.

Some interpreters contend that Adam and Eve did die when they ate the forbidden fruit, but their death was spiritual, not physical. The main idea behind death is separation. The death that Adam and Eve experienced when they ate the forbidden fruit was immediate separation from God.

don't take it too literally folks.....

Jim_HBj7Bdk