Archons?

[ernesto]

Hello,

I have read in this forum the name Archons, and the word Archontics, refering to an et race or culture. I have tried to search for information on the subject without success.
I will be more than gratefull if you could redirect me to the right place / web site / book, etc. Thanks in advance.

Ernesto

[Kristin]

Ernesto,
I would suggest this thread: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?40941-Horus-Ra-as-the-Archontic-Alien-Parasite-A-follow-up-interview-with-Maarit

You can also type in "Archons" in to the forum search engine.
From the Heart,
Kristin

[9eagle9]

Read the threads.

[RMorgan]

Hey mate,

Archons are the new black in the alternative community.

Currently, they are the ultimate blaming mechanism you can find here.

Before, people used to blame the Powers that Be for everything. Now, if you want to blame someone for anything, blaming the Archons is the way to go.

Archons are the solution for those who want to exempt themselves of any self-responsibility over the many huge problems we´re currently facing worldwide.

Cheers,

Raf.

PS: Don´t blame me for this reply! Blame the archons! :)

[Taurean]

This is a pretty good source =

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vida_alien/alien_watchers22.htm

[9eagle9]

Actually if one believes that archons are to blame for our situation then they are entirely missing the point. They are simply something to be aware of like the fine print in a contract, neither are the new. Its just that more people have just recently managed to pull their heads out of their asses enough to become aware of something that medicine people, shamans, and energy workers have been aware of for a thousand years.

We have not been silent about this phenom....we've been ignored...until recently.

Not new at all.

Yes the ptb use archonic influence to manipulate us. But its been our ignorance that's kept the sheeple in the dark until recently. Becaues its perceived as an unpleasant topic like getting a headful of lice.

[Daughter of Time]

Hey mate,

Archons are the new black in the alternative community.

Currently, they are the ultimate blaming mechanism you can find here.

Before, people used to blame the Powers that Be for everything. Now, if you want to blame someone for anything, blaming the Archons is the way to go.

Archons are the solution for those who want to exempt themselves of any self-responsibility over the many huge problems we´re currently facing worldwide.

Cheers,

Raf.

PS: Don´t blame me for this reply! Blame the archons! :)

RMorgan,

With all due respect to you and your excellent, intelligent posts and threads, i feel you are being somewhat unfair in this post as you think the reason people believe in archons is because they wish to evade responsibility.

Much has been written about archons on this forum. And I feel that members of this forum are, for the most part, incredibly responsible individuals.

The reason so many of us believe that the world is manipulated by archon forces is not because we wish to evade personal responsibility. Quite the contrary! Those of us who believe in archontic manipulations want to take responsibility and want others to take responsibility for everything they experience. But the only way to do that is to become aware of what one does and why one does those things. This includes personality, upbringing, societal programmings from this life, programmings from past lives, and, archontic influences which affect all these programmings. This is taking taking responsibility!

When I first joined this forum late last year, you started a thread I remember posting on. That thread was about how your father had married a younger woman who was into black magic and how she was manipulating him and trying to turn him against you and she was sucking the life force out of him. You thought that perhaps she might want to cause his death so she could inherit all his money. If she was into black magic, was this not some kind of archontic influence?

Of course, you can argue that being into black magic was her choice. But the situation is more complicated than that. I remember you saying that her whole family was into black magic so she was programmed to follow that lifestyle. Don't misunderstand me here, I'm not defending that woman at all! And I do hope that whatever spell she had on your father has been broken. I remember you got a lot of advice on how to proceed to break the spell she had on your father. I hope it worked and your father is no longer under that destructive influence.

If we can evolve into beings who are free from archontic and other influences, then we can become the best we can be. That is taking responsibility!

[RMorgan]

Hey mate,

Archons are the new black in the alternative community.

Currently, they are the ultimate blaming mechanism you can find here.

Before, people used to blame the Powers that Be for everything. Now, if you want to blame someone for anything, blaming the Archons is the way to go.

Archons are the solution for those who want to exempt themselves of any self-responsibility over the many huge problems we´re currently facing worldwide.

Cheers,

Raf.

PS: Don´t blame me for this reply! Blame the archons! :)

RMorgan,

With all due respect to you and your excellent, intelligent posts and threads, i feel you are being somewhat unfair in this post as you think the reason people believe in archons is because they wish to evade responsibility.

Much has been written about archons on this forum. And I feel that members of this forum are, for the most part, incredibly responsible individuals.

The reason so many of us believe that the world is manipulated by archon forces is not because we wish to evade personal responsibility. Quite the contrary! Those of us who believe in archontic manipulations want to take responsibility and want others to take responsibility for everything they experience. But the only way to do that is to become aware of what one does and why one does those things. This includes personality, upbringing, societal programmings from this life, programmings from past lives, and, archontic influences which affect all these programmings. This is taking taking responsibility!

When I first joined this forum late last year, you started a thread I remember posting on. That thread was about how your father had married a younger woman who was into black magic and how she was manipulating him and trying to turn him against you and she was sucking the life force out of him. You thought that perhaps she might want to cause his death so she could inherit all his money. If she was into black magic, was this not some kind of archontic influence?

Of course, you can argue that being into black magic was her choice. But the situation is more complicated than that. I remember you saying that her whole family was into black magic so she was programmed to follow that lifestyle. Don't misunderstand me here, I'm not defending that woman at all! And I do hope that whatever spell she had on your father has been broken. I remember you got a lot of advice on how to proceed to break the spell she had on your father. I hope it worked and your father is no longer under that destructive influence.

If we can evolve into beings who are free from archontic and other influences, then we can become the best we can be. That is taking responsibility!

I hear you, my friend.

However, frankly, we don´t even know if archons exist.

We should first be humble, take responsibility for our mistakes and clean up this mess.

Only then, if still facing bad results, we may conclude if an external force is really influencing us; or not.

Right now, personally, I believe the so called archons are mostly the fruit of the collective unconscious composed of 7 billion unbalanced, confused and brainwashed minds.

We know so little about our own minds and conscious, but we have enough evidence to suspect that we can make very mysterious things with the power of intention, good and bad things.

So, I´m most inclined to think that archons are not an external force or entities; they are a manifestation of our unconscious minds when used for evil purposes.

Possibly, black magic rituals work just as a trigger to activate this mysterious powerful human tool.

Anyway, this is just my opinion. Anyone who says with 100% certainty that archons exist, or that they don´t exist, is simply lying.

Both God and the Devil have been used as excuses for centuries. When people do good things, it´s God helping them; when people do bad things, it´s the Devil manipulating them.

Nowadays, I don´t believe either God or the Devil to be external entities. I believe they are just part of who we are. We can do really good or really bad things...

It´s just my current belief anyway. I change beliefs as I change socks; I´m not attached to them.

About my father, I´ve reached my limits. I tried everything I could to help him, without success.

Cheers,

Raf.

[RUSirius]

I thought archons was a cartoon from the early 80's.

[Daughter of Time]

Thank you RMorgan,

If you could be bothered to answer this question, I'd appreciate it.

According to the best of your knowledge and understanding, which power(s) is/are brainwashing the 7 billion people?

I'm not asking this to challenge you, but simply because I'm interested in how you see the situation.

P. S. - since you've added comments to your last post, then I'm adding a comment to this post. Your explanation is much clearer now.

[truth4me]

Well, all I know is right from wrong. I try to do the right thing instead of the wrong thing. I don't steal nor lie knowingly. I try to treat my fellow human as I do myself. I know all that sounds so simple and it is. Why make life complicated when you don't have too? As far as the Arhcons existing in my eyes they do yet that is me and I don't have to live with you but everyday I have to live with me.

[9eagle9]

I'ts not as easy as just being responsible. Doing the right thing, its what is going on beneath the surface where people don't know something is wrong is where archonic activity can leverage. In the overall scheme of things that may not be all that serious...It's not like everyone who gets attached in to something turns into the ptb , or go on a killing spring. It causes insecurity, it causes people not to want to achieve much, it causes people to be absued, not value themselves,not stand up fear , anxiety, making wrong choices in relationships, depression, chronic disease, patterns of failure, tp stick one's head in the sand, feel like they shouldn't expect more than to slave their whole life, feeling like one is useless...

People can be perfectly responsible their whole lives with an influence attached to them. Hell people are held hostage by their own thoughts and belief systems. If that not sufficient enough to address situations like this, understand these entities are often times what controls the ptb, and the ptb uses them to leverage us.

At the very least it doesn't allow us to access who we really are.



Well, all I know is right from wrong. I try to do the right thing instead of the wrong thing. I don't steal nor lie knowingly. I try to treat my fellow human as I do myself. I know all that sounds so simple and it is. Why make life complicated when you don't have too? As far as the Arhcons existing in my eyes they do yet that is me and I don't have to live with you but everyday I have to live with me.

[Hervé]

[...]

Anyway, this is just my opinion. Anyone who says with 100% certainty that archons exist, or that they don´t exist, is simply lying.

[...]
Cheers,

Raf.

Personally, I wouldn't be so categorical...

Drawing from the Australian tradition:


Some of the clever Elders that still know the old way have said, “We know what we can do, but we did not go to school, therefore we do not know the words to use for what we can see and do, we only know that we can do what we can do, and there is the seen and the unseen and all things are alive.


The clincher is that last part: "All things are alive."



The Aboriginals had the ability to take the free flowing energy and use it to visualize through the dreamtime into the manifestation of reality. They were more developed, using the spiritual internal world of manifestation, rather than the external analytical world. Never seeing the world through analytical eyes, they were aware the earth has a living Spirit, they worked in harmony with the spirit of the earth, and the spirits of all life forms. They were taught the understanding of communication with the spirit of animals, trees, rocks, water and that all other life forms are alive. That also includes our thoughts that can become thought forms and grow into life forms that can then manipulate the soul of man.


Accordingly, even though under the aspect of "thought forms," these things take a life of their own and therefore "exist" as independent entities if only in the individual's universe and not in anyone else's... at first... until these entities gather enough energy to spill over into other individuals' universes.

Therefore, affected individuals can rightfully swear with 100% certainty to the existence of such entities and the unaffected ones can equally swear with the same amount of certainty as to their non-existence.

More info on the above in this thread: Dreamtime Healing - Using Holographic Kinetics (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?38458-Dreamtime-Healing-Using-Holographic-Kinetics)

and at this website: http://www.holographickinetics.net/default.html

[WanderingRogue]

I sometimes think that maybe it doesn't really matter whether any of this exists in our minds or in reality. If these negative influences are socially constructed entities that just change names from time to time, or if they truely are real does not really matter because either way, the effect is the same. Understanding how to remove ourselves from the influence is really the goal. Whether a monster is blue or green, big or small, or whether the threat is called satan, demon or archon or PTB or some may argue that maybe you were blessed with a powerfully creative mind that imagines it all doesn't matter. Understanding the details only serves to clarify that which everyone knows which is yes, something is there; but divisions between people and groups are usually created when the details become the focus. I guess you can almst say that noone is right and yet at the same time we are all right about this threat, because honestly I am starting to think that it manifests itself differently to all, though its intent never changes. It is the obsevance of a negative infuencing intent that we all seem to recognize. Maybe the important thing to understand is that we will all need to choose a different weapon to fight with, one that we are uniquely adept at weilding, because we all see the foe differently. I think its really cool that there are all of these people out here looking for the answers, getting to know the foe in the way they see it and looking for ways to be effective in thier individual fight.

As usual, these is just my thoughts at the moment and are subject to change. :biggrin:

[ernesto]

Thank you all!
Thank you Taurean too!

This is a pretty good source = http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vida_alien/alien_watchers22.htm I found your suggested link a good starting point.
I found this very instructive too: http://www.jayweidner.com/Archons.html
Now I have tons of texts to study

E

[Rantaak]

Your local medicine man or drug dealer is an Archon. There is a distinction between these two shades.

Archons are entities that catalyze the development and alchemy of human consciousness. Before I understood this fully, I just pictured some fat blue guy in outer space.

Like in Starcraft. http://www.sc2blog.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/archonconcept.jpg

[westhill]

Hi Ernesto...
John Lash is a good start. Red Ice Creations is a great site for most topics.
http://www.redicecreations.com

loCoTx99yAg

[Bo Atkinson]

I transcribed a little of John Lash's DVD "Sophia Returning" covering the archons epic here:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?45632-Handling-psychopaths&p=497829&viewfull=1#post497829

Below is a John Lash site which, at least in part, covers this amazing story
or is it a time line we are all sharing in a climatic period??

http://www.metahistory.org/img/MetaQuestTitle.gif
http://www.metahistory.org/images/ptbanner.jpg
METAHISTORY
S i t e G u i d e

http://www.metahistory.org/sitemap.php#gaiasophia
TOPICS:
Guidelines
Reading
Lexicon
Alternative Grail
Psychonautics
Lydia's Well
Gnostique
Gaia-Sophia
Magdalene
Living Myth
Sky Lore
2012 Shift
Rite Action

[9eagle9]

Mind if I tinker with your statement a little, Amer?

...therefore, PREVIOUSLY affected individuals can rightfully swear with 100% certainty to the existence of such entities and the unaffected ones can equally swear with the same amount of certainty as to their non-existence EVEN AS THEY ARE WEARING AN ARCHONIC INFLUENCE.


You can clearly show one's archonic influence to them...if they are wiling to look at it. The most obvious evidence is when you remove one, and one has the contrast between being controlled and not being controlled. Uncontrolled people are a pain in the arse.

What prevents people from looking at it? Some internal or external influence--archonic energy.

The mind itself is archonic influence, that is the artificial installation that was imposed on us. Programming is OBVIOUS, its all labeled, for one to see it. Nothing is hidden. Archonic influences are in such plain sight that we don't see them until we learn to perceive without the mind. Because its the mind putting on the rose colored lenses or filters.

Look at the word >>>>>MIND<<<<<<.

Minding. Minding you. Minding your business. It's babysitting you, directing, minding you. The MIND! How obvious this is this. So know you've been shown an archon. Still in denial? Thank your archon. Do you have a mind? You are then minded by something other that what you really are.

I'm an example. I've carved out huge portions of my consciousness, my minder. Put me in this forum, and I authentically express the nature of programming, and minding and parasitical influences. The mindful people immediately rush to re-install me --I'm not with the program--"You're mean, you're insensitive, you're narcissistic, you are a tyrant, you don't care what my archon, my mind has to say. "



No I don't. Lol.

I'm not minding their minder. There is always an attempt made to punish those not minding the minder. What happens when we don't mind the Archaic laws we are currently living under. Aren't we punished.


We don't like to look at these things because...it reminds us we are like the ptb, the minders we all like to bark about.

Weak minded people. Their archonic influence is insecure. Get rid of your mind, manage your minder.

People who work in removing archonic influences , like a shaman, understand they have to lose their mind. What's minding them. In spite of the statement about about medicine people catalyzing the mind, authentic medicine people would just assume people lose their mind, get rid of it entirely,let along stir its pot, that portion of the consciousness that lays the template and playing ground for these things. Reducing the minder, expanding it doesn't help.

When you get out from under the minder you can alter reality. My most recent favorite example is running out of gas. Oh my minder is having a field day with that. "You'll have to walk home! Get a gas can! There won't be any gas in it! Oh your day succccccccks!!!"

Push the mind voice away and I drove home without even fumes to assist me.

That is the power laying behind the mind. It can move the physical.


It's all in our mind? What creates our PERCEIVED reality but for the mind? Yes we in part re-create these things. They are in the dimension of ourselves that is our trap consciousness. The non-physical or unseen portion of the Matrix. The person who speaks of expanding consciousness is unwittingly wanting to spread this influence. the jail, the jailkeepers.


For those who don't believe in archonic influences, how about your parents? You have parents? Someone raised you, MINDED you, and imposed your first roles on you. That is an archonic influence. Our parents initially define who we are while we are relatively unformed. How many people have spent their adult life attempting to get out from the damage their father or mother did to them? Not necessarily bad or evil parents, but parents who instilled beliefs that were not truthful or relevant to who we really are, how powerful we really are. You think my mother raised me to think I could run a car without gas?


Before the first external influence attaches the mind is already busily herding several internally generated ones. The external influences attach in there, in that role. Where did they come from? The mind of someone else. We are all archonic. We have to learn to not feed on other people, in turn we have to learn not to let other's feed or prey on us.

Think about what sort of influence the mind of sociopath would replicate compared to someone who wasn't?



[...]

Anyway, this is just my opinion. Anyone who says with 100% certainty that archons exist, or that they don´t exist, is simply lying.

[...]
Cheers,

Raf.

Personally, I wouldn't be so categorical...

Drawing from the Australian tradition:


Some of the clever Elders that still know the old way have said, “We know what we can do, but we did not go to school, therefore we do not know the words to use for what we can see and do, we only know that we can do what we can do, and there is the seen and the unseen and all things are alive.


The clincher is that last part: "All things are alive."



The Aboriginals had the ability to take the free flowing energy and use it to visualize through the dreamtime into the manifestation of reality. They were more developed, using the spiritual internal world of manifestation, rather than the external analytical world. Never seeing the world through analytical eyes, they were aware the earth has a living Spirit, they worked in harmony with the spirit of the earth, and the spirits of all life forms. They were taught the understanding of communication with the spirit of animals, trees, rocks, water and that all other life forms are alive. That also includes our thoughts that can become thought forms and grow into life forms that can then manipulate the soul of man.


Accordingly, even though under the aspect of "thought forms," these things take a life of their own and therefore "exist" as independent entities if only in the individual's universe and not in anyone else's... at first... until these entities gather enough energy to spill over into other individuals' universes.

Therefore, affected individuals can rightfully swear with 100% certainty to the existence of such entities and the unaffected ones can equally swear with the same amount of certainty as to their non-existence.

More info on the above in this thread: Dreamtime Healing - Using Holographic Kinetics (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?38458-Dreamtime-Healing-Using-Holographic-Kinetics)

and at this website: http://www.holographickinetics.net/default.html

[Timreh]

Hi ernesto, I am rather new to the whole Archontic concept but with an open mind and many hours of research I had no problem subscribing to the theory... it is a pretty big pill to swallow!

I made a post in Houman's thread (Horus-Ra as the Archontic Alien Parasite: A follow-up interview with Maarit) including some written references to the Archons, some ancient some recent.
If you have adobe reader pull up a book and do a find for the word "archon" you will see all the references.
Hope they may help?


*Gnostic Bible; The Pistis Sophia Unveiled; Samael Aun Weor, 1983

The Pistis Sophia are Gnostic Coptic manuscripts believed to have been written around 200 AD (CE) and uncovered in Egypt nearly 2 ½ centuries ago

*Pistis Sophia. G R S Mead, 1921

*Ante Nicene Fathers; Philip Schaff (Editor)
(at least 4 volumes contain accounts of the archons with Vol 5 containing numerous accounts)
Originally printed in 1885, the ten-volume set Ante-Nicene Fathers brings together the work of early Christian thinkers. In particular, it brings together the writings of the early Church fathers prior to the fourth century Nicene Creed. These volumes are noteworthy for their inclusion of entire texts, and not simply fragments or excerpts from these great writings. The translations are fairly literal, providing both readers and scholars with a good approximation of the originals.

*The Gnostic Bible: Barnstone & Meyer, 2003

Addl * Gnostic Religion, the. Hans Jonas, 1958

Addl *Gnostic Gospels. E Pagels, 1979,1989

*Nag Hammadi Library, the, 3rd Ed. J M Robinson, 1988
The Nag Hammadi Library, a collection of thirteen ancient codices containing over fifty texts, was discovered in upper Egypt in 1945. This immensely important discovery includes a large number of primary "Gnostic Gospels" texts once thought to have been entirely destroyed during..
the early Christian struggle to define "orthodoxy" scriptures such as the Gospel of Thomas, the Gospel of Philip, and the Gospel of Truth. The discovery and translation of the Nag Hammadi library, completed in the 1970's, has provided impetus to a major re-evaluation of early Christian history and the nature of Gnosticism.

*Gnostic Handbook, the. (Institute for Gnostic Studies, Gnostic Apostolic Church)

Addl *Gnostic Theurgy (Institute for Gnostic Studies, Gnostic Apostolic Church)

Addl *Gnostic Heresies of the First and Second Centuries. H L Mansel, 1875

If anyone is interested in researching the archons in any of these books they are available here..
http://theknowledgeden.com/area/gnosticism/

[Finefeather]

The word Archon, as we know, means Ruler, because they are suppose to be the rulers of the physical world. The physical world or 3D as we like to call it, as far as humans are concerned, actually consists of the physical body, emotional body and
mental body.
The archons are astral/emotional/mind bound entities or forces who live and are fed by negative emotions and thoughts.
The Archons DO NOT project fear, as fear would scare us away from doing the very things they feed on, so they usually always project a kind of false innocence, to attract you to something they can feed on.
Anyone who is immersed in emotional and mental activities, which are known as the '7 deadly sins' are certainly fair game for these entities.
The '7 deadly sins' are: wrath, greed, sloth, pride, lust, envy, and gluttony.
These entities most certainly exist, but DO NOT EXIST as little creatures or disguised humans, they ONLY exist in the astral and mental planes.
I have encountered many of these little creatures during my work in the astral and they can be clearly seen attached to some humans. I have on numerous occasions helped souls who were stuck in the lower astral, after death, to allow them to continue on up to the realm in which most of us live when we are not incarnate.
I have also helped drug addicts who have been unable to return to their bodies after a large drug dose because the archon energy can block the return of the dweller and this often is the cause of death of a drug overdose.
When you are new at astral projection and your emotion and mental life is in disarray because of negative actions, these archons will be your first visitors. :)
They appear, in the lower astral, in the form of a damp foetus like animal and quickly attach themselves to your astral body if you have any hidden emotional or mental secrets. They are experts and know your weeknesses.
Now this the the MOST IMPORTANT thing to know about them:
They do NOT atack us, as in a warlike manner, they ONLY respond to our emotional and mental weeknesses.
They do not discriminate and will respond to any weeknesses from any human.
The mechanics of there presence is that their vibration merges with ours and increases the negativity of our emotional and mental attitudes. This is the exact same principle as in body sickness, or for that matter, in a positive way, healing is achieved by a healer or by a homeophathic remedy or even one you get from orthodox medicine. This process is called constructive and or deconstructive interference.
The ONLY thing that prevents their attachment to us is living a life of truth, honesty, compassion, unconditional love, in otherwords be nice..:)

There are people that have written volumes about the Archons to instil fear into us and create a sense of us been attacked by some demon like creatures from the black darkness. In reality the Archons just 'love' us until death us do depart, because they are helpless without our weaknesses, they cannot exist without us. They will slowly die off as man becomes more spiritual.
So while we are all out of our minds, fighting and jostling for the top jobs, killing each other, stealing from each other, lying and cheating, and hooked on drugs sex and money, the Archons will play. :)

[Pam]

I sometimes think that maybe it doesn't really matter whether any of this exists in our minds or in reality. If these negative influences are socially constructed entities that just change names from time to time, or if they truely are real does not really matter because either way, the effect is the same. Understanding how to remove ourselves from the influence is really the goal. Whether a monster is blue or green, big or small, or whether the threat is called satan, demon or archon or PTB or some may argue that maybe you were blessed with a powerfully creative mind that imagines it all doesn't matter. Understanding the details only serves to clarify that which everyone knows which is yes, something is there; but divisions between people and groups are usually created when the details become the focus. I guess you can almst say that noone is right and yet at the same time we are all right about this threat, because honestly I am starting to think that it manifests itself differently to all, though its intent never changes. It is the obsevance of a negative infuencing intent that we all seem to recognize. Maybe the important thing to understand is that we will all need to choose a different weapon to fight with, one that we are uniquely adept at weilding, because we all see the foe differently. I think its really cool that there are all of these people out here looking for the answers, getting to know the foe in the way they see it and looking for ways to be effective in thier individual fight.

As usual, these is just my thoughts at the moment and are subject to change.




Wanderingrogue, So beautifully stated...If I might go one step further and add that the final product of any of this is FEAR....I don't know that "fighting" fear (or the object of fear) is the answer. Having spent many years as a slave to fear masquerading as anxiety,resentment and apprehension I have followed a simple technique that works wonders to release fear. After all ,fear in most cases is nothing more than a paper tiger.
Try this: Create that scenario that creates fear or angst or anything that makes you uncomfortable. Intentionally tell yourself all the stories that intensify this feeling to its maximum....Now just sit there with the emotion, do nothing to sweep it away...Stay with it and watch it melt before your eyes...Try to drum up that fear again...it may be gone or it may be diminished. Do it until there is no emotional response....this simple technique, if used used by everyone might be the great undoing of all negativity....don't knock it unless you try it....... pammy
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[East Sun]

Peterpam,
Thank you for those words of wisdom. You may be absolutely correct. I often think that the reasons some teachers promote and believe in a positive future is in order to manifest it.
I think it makes a world of a difference what we believe and expect while being aware of those who try to promote the opposite.
Great leaders have taught to, 'Believe.' That's all, but Really believe it will happen.
And while we are doing that we will feel better.

[Hervé]

Mind if I tinker with your statement a little, Amer?

...therefore, PREVIOUSLY affected individuals can rightfully swear with 100% certainty to the existence of such entities and the unaffected ones can equally swear with the same amount of certainty as to their non-existence EVEN AS THEY ARE WEARING AN ARCHONIC INFLUENCE.

[...]

Well, I stand corrected with that tinkered statement...

I considered "unaffected" to mean "not under archonic influences" forgetting that, indeed, such an individual -- without external and/or internal influences -- would be able to perceive the existence of such entities and energies... :doh: !

Thanks for the finer tuning!

[Daughter of Time]

I agree with 9eagle9 that you cannot trust your mind. Your mind is just a conglomeration of information which consists of a lot of misinformation. And it's the misinformation that archontic forces re-inforce.

And I also agree with Finefeather that if you are a righteous person and live a righteous life then you will not be influenced to cause chaos upon others. However, I've found from personal experience, that even if you're a righteous person you can still be caused to commit acts that will create chaos for yourself. I've committed many acts of self-sabotage and every time I did, I'd ask myself "am I stupid? or am I stupid?" The answer is not that I'm stupid, but that I've been controlled, knowingly aware that I was being controlled, but i didn't know how nor by whom or what. And then I'd become very angry with myself. Whenever this anger towards me would occur, I could almost, literally, hear someone laughing, which made me more angry, thus still feeding the controllers.

I cannot say that I've managed to free myself of all these influences as of yet. But I'm so aware of them now and I'm recognizing what is "I" and what is not. And I feel that I'm on my way to regaining who I truly am. I don't know if I can do this completely on my own. The information imparted by those who have experiences in this area is always helpful and I thank all those of you who share your knowledge and understanding.

I will add that whenever I'm affected by unpleasant thoughts or reactions, I ask myself "is this really me, or is it someone else". I usually get an immediate answer in the form of a vision. I see my father, who had a horrendous effect on me. I see other people who have hurt me or negatively affected me. Sometimes I just feel a pressure, which means it's not a person but a force of some kind. The reaction then immediately stops and I experience a sigh of relief.

[Finefeather]

However, I've found from personal experience, that even if you're a righteous person you can still be caused to commit acts that will create chaos for yourself. I've committed many acts of self-sabotage and every time I did, I'd ask myself "am I stupid? or am I stupid?" The answer is not that I'm stupid, but that I've been controlled, knowingly aware that I was being controlled, but i didn't know how nor by whom or what. And then I'd become very angry with myself. Whenever this anger towards me would occur, I could almost, literally, hear someone laughing, which made me more angry, thus still feeding the controllers.
We cannot blame everything on some outside influence, even if you believe you are 'righteous'. Despite the influence of the so called 'archons', ultimately it is you that makes the choices.
Continual denial of some deeper conflict, unrecognised by ourselves in the moment, can lead us far away from the real problem.
Self examination is often directed by a lively ego which is not recognised...I am not suggesting that you are egotistical, just giving a common example, yours might be different.
In situations where you find conflict in yourself, it is always wise to get some honest outside opinion by someone you are sure will tell it like it is.
We go through life in a certain environment and for years form habits and ways which become 'normal' in our minds, but even boxers think it is normal to knock each other unconscious.

[9eagle9]

Self sabotage in some form or another is more common than imposing on other people.

Even being righteous is a form of self sabotage. The mind twists any virtue and attempts to make a vice from it. WHY one is so determined to be righteous would have to be examined.

It is hard to do it on your own, you are only your own experience, and a 3rd party observer is helpful in seeing where you are sabotaging yourself.

We make agreements to these sorts of things, its not like they are forced onto us, and we are just not consciously aware of those agreements--the consciousness is in part responsible for making the agreement.




I agree with 9eagle9 that you cannot trust your mind. Your mind is just a conglomeration of information which consists of a lot of misinformation. And it's the misinformation that archontic forces re-inforce.

And I also agree with Finefeather that if you are a righteous person and live a righteous life then you will not be influenced to cause chaos upon others. However, I've found from personal experience, that even if you're a righteous person you can still be caused to commit acts that will create chaos for yourself. I've committed many acts of self-sabotage and every time I did, I'd ask myself "am I stupid? or am I stupid?" The answer is not that I'm stupid, but that I've been controlled, knowingly aware that I was being controlled, but i didn't know how nor by whom or what. And then I'd become very angry with myself. Whenever this anger towards me would occur, I could almost, literally, hear someone laughing, which made me more angry, thus still feeding the controllers.

I cannot say that I've managed to free myself of all these influences as of yet. But I'm so aware of them now and I'm recognizing what is "I" and what is not. And I feel that I'm on my way to regaining who I truly am. I don't know if I can do this completely on my own. The information imparted by those who have experiences in this area is always helpful and I thank all those of you who share your knowledge and understanding.

I will add that whenever I'm affected by unpleasant thoughts or reactions, I ask myself "is this really me, or is it someone else". I usually get an immediate answer in the form of a vision. I see my father, who had a horrendous effect on me. I see other people who have hurt me or negatively affected me. Sometimes I just feel a pressure, which means it's not a person but a force of some kind. The reaction then immediately stops and I experience a sigh of relief.

[PHARAOH]

Hey mate,

Archons are the new black in the alternative community.

Currently, they are the ultimate blaming mechanism you can find here.

Before, people used to blame the Powers that Be for everything. Now, if you want to blame someone for anything, blaming the Archons is the way to go.

Archons are the solution for those who want to exempt themselves of any self-responsibility over the many huge problems we´re currently facing worldwide.

Cheers,

Raf.

PS: Don´t blame me for this reply! Blame the archons! :)


RMorgan, I found your post to be both profound and humorous as i have also found myself at times wondering why we refuse to accept responsibility. I appreciate you perspective as you are only seeking to empower us all. I thank you for that sincerely.

However I do have a story to tell that may ring a bell to many in this forum and outside whom may come across this post.

About 2mths ago I was heading out of my home to umpire a couple of 9 inning baseball games. I had recently purchased sunglasses as the weather here in Florida can be a bit sunny most of the time. As I drove from my home I realized I had not seen my sunglasses and began searching for them in my truck. After looking 3-4 times and not finding them, I remembered I had left them in my home near my computer. I promised myself before I even turn around to go home, that I would not lose my cool as the family was asleep (9am). As a father of 3, I have grown accustom to not finding things where I leave them as my wife is always moving my things around and at times, my children. I told myself over and over again, "do not lose your cool" when you get home, ask your wife if she can help find the sunglasses. When I got home I immediately looked by the computer and a few other areas, including my truck again. I asked my wife if she had seen them and she hadn't. I continued to search. As I did, I could not overstand what had come over me. I began getting angrier and angrier as I searched to no avail. I then began waking up my children demanding they assist me in finding my sunglasses as I was now blaming them for having moved my sunglasses. As everyone searched, the rage that had come over me was so unbearable that I began to shout, "where the h@%% are my sunglasses". The more I thought about it, the more I became enraged. I felt as though i had been taken over by a force that was hell bent on causing strife, chaos and confusion as I was now, in that mind set. Although, I had a momentary lapse in my fit of rage, my higher mind attempted to reach out to me to say, "what are your doing"?, "You promised yourself you wouldn't do this". However, the force was much too strong as I continued to shout and yell at my loved ones. At this point, my wife began to come after me as she knew I was out of control. She began asking me why was I so upset. I then continued yelling at her at the top of my lungs. The rage that came over me was so uncontrollable, I decided to leave my home at once, as I now knew I was possessed. By what?, I do not know. What I do know is, whatever it was, it was in control of me and I needed to get out of my home before I said or did anything I would regret. So I did just that. Once i left, i immediately began to feel shame and humiliation as I had now disrupted and completely destroyed the tranquility in my home. As you can imagine, I was in no hurry to get back home. The games had been cancelled due to excessive rain the previous day and there would be no games played. I stayed at the park for about 1hr before heading back home. Can you imagine the dread?

So you see RMorgan, there truly are forces out there that do influence us daily and at times of great emotional stress do seize the opportunity to enter our body and cause undue harm to those we love, including ourselves. Which is why I do stress, "we must build up our physic defense" as these forces are truly powerful.

As you can imagine, it was not easy for me to discuss this topic, but I feel i am amongst friends and family and I can only hope to have helped someone with my post.

[ernesto]

Thanks a lot You All, Again!
It looks I will need some more lifes to read and learn all this!

Ernesto

[CeltMan]

Hello,

I have read in this forum the name Archons, and the word Archontics, refering to an et race or culture. I have tried to search for information on the subject without success.
I will be more than gratefull if you could redirect me to the right place / web site / book, etc. Thanks in advance.

Ernesto

Firstly, Ernesto-welcome to the forum.

Don't worry about asking a question that some already may know the answer to.

Most here are generous with their knowledge and will help point you in the right direction.

Here is an excellent radio/audio recording (which I happen to be listening to at the moment-multitasking...lol)


Red Ice/John Lash

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJZqw601Jxw&feature=share

[Taurean]

"There are powers at work in this country about which we have no knowledge'. H. M. Queen Elizabeth II (in conversation with royal butler Paul Burrell) Daily Mirror

http://www.bilderberg.org/

Maybe Her Majesty could do with doing a bit of research on this subject.

[pueblo]

Just on the Archons, I was wondering if anyone else has ever noticed fleeting shadows that appear in your periphery vision but zip away at the speed of light when noticed?

I have often wondered if perhaps I am catching some sort of physical manifestation of an 'inorganic thought-form'...

[Valerie Villars]

My boyfriend sees that all the time. I do not. He is not quite sure what they are but they are dark, out of his periphery and very fleeting.

[pueblo]

My boyfriend sees that all the time. I do not. He is not quite sure what they are but they are dark, out of his periphery and very fleeting.

I have seen orbs too, for me it's difficult to know exactly what I was seeing, I am prepared to accept the 'fleeting shadow' thing could have a physiological explanation however the spidey senses sort of tingle with the shadows and they were on full alert for the orbs, and what about a possible alternative explanation for the orbs?.........simple, they were orbs.