Water Powered Car Hits Mainstream in Pakistan

[WhiteFeather]

Just found this. Not sure if it was posted. I know Stanley Meyer Had One back in the 70's. But this is 2012. Hope this guy doesnt get poisoned like Stan Did. Good News Anyways.

Today, the Times of India reported: "Members of Pakistani parliament, scientists, and students alike watched in awe as Waqar Ahmad, a Pakistani engineer, successfully demonstrated a working water powered car in Islamabad." Earlier videos show him apparently running a motorcycle.

SLAMABAD: A Pakistani engineer has successfully developed a unique technology that uses water as fuel in vehicles instead of petrol or CNG, a feat once considered a farfetched dream. Waqar Ahmad drove his car using water as fuel on Thursday during a demonstration for Pakistani parliamentarians, scientists and students.

He claimed that on one litre of water a 1000 CC car can cover a distance of 40 km and a motorbike can run up to 150 km using this technology.

http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2012-07-28/science/32906478_1_hydrogen-cng-cc-car

[WhiteFeather]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTDwzV41cyI


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aU2MMxIElAw

A translater would be most appreciated here. Anyone?

[Jean-Luc]

I remember talking personaly to Henri Deacon / Arthur Neuman in Amsterdam and him saying that FE was meant soon or later to blossom like "seeds in the spring" all over the place.

I recommend everyone to also keep a close eye on the Keshe Foundation with major releases of information due for September of this year.

[Jean-Luc]

More info and videos on PESWIKI: http://pesn.com/2012/07/28/9602147_Water_Powered_Car_Hits_Mainstream_in_Pakistan/


Water Powered Car Hits Mainstream in Pakistan

Today, the Times of India reported: "Members of Pakistani parliament, scientists, and students alike watched in awe as Waqar Ahmad, a Pakistani engineer, successfully demonstrated a working water powered car in Islamabad." Earlier videos show him apparently running a motorcycle.

Here's a screen shot from a video that shows the inventor putting water in a tank. The date is probably wrong. The video was uploaded this month.


by Robert Lee
Pure Energy Systems News


Members of the Pakistani parliament, scientists, and students alike watched in awe as Waqar Ahmad, a Pakistani engineer, successfully demonstrated a working water powered car in Islamabad. With just one liter of water, Ahmad claims a 1000 cc car could cover a distance of 40 km, or a motorbike could travel 150 km.

Ahmad's 'Water Fuel Kit Project' utilizes a hydrogen bonding technique with distilled water, creating hydrogen to power the vehicle. If realized on a massive scale, Ahmad's invention could seriously challenge the current energy paradigm, and could usher in a new way of thinking about energy in general.

First reported today by the Times of India, the promising exhibition took place on Thursday, as a Pakistani cabinet subcommittee member praised the technology. A stunned audience sat in astonishment when Religious Affairs minister, Syed Khurshid Ahmad Shah, proclaimed Ahmad's water car was "this years' Independence Day gift to the nation."

This is not the first time a water powered car has been proven to work. Nearly a year ago, on July 31st, 2011, Presscore.ca broke a story on Genepax, a Japanese company that unveiled a car that can run on river, rain or sea water, and even Japanese tea. A subsequent article goes on to state, "The key to the Genepax system is its membrane electrode assembly (or MEA), which contains a material that’s capable of breaking down water into hydrogen and oxygen."


Comments by Sterling D. Allan

First, let me welcome Robert Lee as a writer for PESN. This is his first story.

I was approached a few days ago by a member of a Pakistan crew involved with this, or a similar technology. He gave me some links to three videos that they posted.

I was waiting for a response from them on a reply I sent to their email, asking some questions about the technology.

But with this announcement in Times India today, I thought we should go ahead and post what we have so far on this. Here are four (1 | 2 | 3 | 4) videos from their YouTube channel. First, the inventor clears the carburetor of petrol, then hooks up the fuel source from his system that appears to extract energy from water. Then he drives the bike down the road at around 5 mph.

The date stamp on these videos is 2008. Not sure if that is correct. And, again, we're not sure this is the same group. A commenter below said they are not the same.

(See video's on the link provided)

He wrote (slightly edited) :

Because of video length I have made 3 parts. In first, I disconnect petrol connection and then finish the remaining petrol in carburetor. When we have confirmed there is no petrol in bike, then we will install our system. Next time, our bike full complete version is also coming. And also a car test and 2.5 kW generator.

[contact:]
name: Muhammad Wasim
email: wasimsahu@yahoo.com
phone: +92 3467319516


"Bogus"

On July 30, 2012 10:51 AM MDT, I received the following email from Brother Andrew (slightly edited) :

Hello Sterling,

[...]

I sent [your article] to our contacts in Pakistan, and they say this guy is bogus. Please contact them yourself, they speak good English. They say the guy was lying and can show you how he [does] it. [...]

These guys [contacts] actually got Gov. approval of BB series cell system HHO boosters! The can get 50% to 150% better mileage over there with there un refined fuel. [...]

Pakistan will be the FIRST country to accept and approve HHO!!!!

Sincerely,

Andrew

Hydrogen Garage LLC
630 Quintana Road #125
Morro Bay, CA 93442 • USA
http://HydrogenGarage.com
http://HydrogenTrucker.com
(805) 995-4809 • (805) 772-7324

I had a three-way Skype chat with Andrew and [anonymous] at around 7 pm MDT. [Anonymous]' main points or allegations were:


The 130 octane gas produced in this process is not suitable to the engine it is running. It will burn out the injectors and damage the engine.
The amount of energy being produced is less than the amount of energy required to make the hydroxy gas.
The technology is not unique to this "inventor"; originating earlier by other researchers as shown on YouTube videos that have been available for years.
When the inventor was asked basic questions in his TV interview by the scientists, who came in open-minded, he exhibited a lack of knowledge about something he should have known about, indicating that he is not the originator of the technology.
As this technology is discredited, it is likely to bring blowback to legitimate researchers who are trying to get hydroxy technology rolled out in Pakistan.

[danceblackcatdance]

I recommend everyone to also keep a close eye on the Keshe Foundation with major releases of information due for September of this year.

Have been keeping an eye on it as am fascinated and ever hopeful :)

Unfortunately Keshe has said:

It is important to note that these presentations are and will be frequent events which are and to be organised by the Foundation and these will be used for teaching and not demonstration of any part of the technologies which we have developed....
...As you all know the last time we announced what we are going to show in the space technology ended with nuclear inspection and unannounced police meeting on our research lab and with Foundation materials being secured and sealed under police and governmental nuclear inspection seals on the 25.11.2011 and up today we have not managed to get our materials back or get a licence to be able to do any demonstration.


Disappointing but understandable...

http://www.keshefoundation.org/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2593

[Flash]

A Pakistani, they could not put the hand of him soon enough. He went trough the net..... great.

Now, being official, this will go like wild fire in the third world and come back here. We now have to go through the poorest world to develop technology that is forbidden here....

Brazil and Canada, with their petroleum.... we are doomed. Although Canada has lots of water lol.

[WhiteFeather]

A Pakistani, they could not put the hand of him soon enough. He went trough the net..... great.

Now, being official, this will go like wild fire in the third world and come back here. We now have to go through the poorest world to develop technology that is forbidden here....

Brazil and Canada, with their petroleum.... we are doomed. Although Canada has lots of water lol.

My thoughts exactly.. This would be nice when it slips through the cracks. I just hope this scientist doesnt drink the Cool-Aid.

[sigma6]

Is this a car actually running on water or just one of those HHO hydrogen supplementation devices that increases the gas mileage, as those are two totally different approaches, and remember when videos appeared of at least two Japanese corporations that had built complete water powered vehicles, and then nothing... (like no one in Japan was interested freeing themselves of foreign oil... righhhht...)

based on some of the previous msgs, it sounds a little up in the air... and I can't believe the crap they are putting Keshe through... and by the wonderful magic of MSM everyone is asleep or busily working away to keep the Banking cabals funded with our taxes... we need more people to wake up...

[WhiteFeather]

Does anyone know if there is an open source to this petroleum to water modification perhaps? I would like to utilize this newer technology before i purchase the possibly obsolete HHO cells.

[kanishk]

In market HHO kits are available, But they will only tell you that this kit is for installation in air intake, so as to decrease petrol consumption. But they can be used as direct source of fuel..

Read third question in this link http://hydrogengarage.com/faq.html

In Patric J Kelly's 'Practicle guid to free energy devices' he is explaining how to convert generator fully running on hydroxy gas. In erlier version of that book he was directly telling about cars CAD CAM setting for conversion into fully hydroxy powered car.

I recently found this Indian site http://watercar.in/specification.aspx . I think {dont know, I have to personally ask them about it} that they are supplying complete generator system running on water.

To know how excess energy is being created
1> Note Amperage and Volts presenter of (YouTube video)/ experimenter is using when showing production rate of hydroxy gas in 1 minute.
2> 12 volts * 20 amps = 240 watts
3> And there are 9.54BTU/L {BTU of energy per liters} {energy hydrogen can generate} in one liter of hydrogen.
4> i.e. equals to 10065 Jules per liter of hyrogen burned.
And
5> 240 watts = 240 jules/sec
then
6> For device were 1.5 liters of Hydroxy gas is produce per minute {1 lites of hydrogen is produced} for 12 volts and 20 amps. then,>
7> 1 liter of Hydrogen / 60 sec.
8> 14400 jules / minute is input electrical energy [input]
and 10065 Jules / minute of Hydrogen produced energy [output]

[KiwiElf]

The idea works, and is not new,...

http://waterpoweredcar.com/archieblue.html

[kanishk]

Thankyou KiwiElf,
My guess was correct, there is a problem with BTU. Therefore converting BTUs into jules is showing quit less power generated in form of hydrogen than used for electrolysis. As well as in Hydroxy gas we are providing perfect hydrogen and oxyden mixture for burning.

[kanishk]

Now I have found out another perfect technique of finding out energy released after burning of Hydroxy gas, which is by finding out energy required for converting water into hydrogen and oxygen molecules.

In this technique energy
consumed for breaking O-H bonds in water molecules and
energy released after formation of H-H and O=O bonds of hydrogen and oxygen molecules is calculated.
Because energy released in H-H and O=O bond formation is consumed in breaking of O-H bonds.

We have,
'PV=nRT, {used for gased}
where P=STP pressure of 1 atm, V= volume, n=# of moles (1 here), R=ideal gas constant (0.082057 L*atm/mol*K) which is always the same, and T =temp in Kelvins at STP= 273.15K'

THEN 1 LITER OF HYDROGEN IS A 0.044615 moles OF HYDROGEN. {used for chemical reaction calculations}

n = PV/RT
= 1 x 1 / 0.082057 x 273.15
= 0.044615 moles

I gathered below information from this site http://users.rcn.com/jkimball.ma.ultranet/BiologyPages/B/BondEnergy.html

'The bond energy of the H-O bond is 110 kcal.
The bond energy of H-H bonds is 103 kcal.
The bond energy of the O=O bonds is 116 kcal.
The decomposition of 2 molecules of water requires breaking 4 H-O bonds and thus the input of 440 kcal.
The formation of 2 moles of hydrogen yields 206 kcal (2 x 103).
The formation of 1 mole of oxygen yields 116 kcal.
The difference between
the energy released (206 + 116 = 322 kcal) and
the energy consumed (4 x 110 = 440 kcal)
gives the net energy consumed = 118 kcal.'

Therefore,
1 LITERS OF HYDROGEN BURNED BY 1/2 LITERS OF OXYGEN WILL PRODUCE
5.26457 Kcal = 22027 Jules

1lit hydrogen = 0.044615 moles of hydrogen

energy released > 0.044615 x 118 Kcal = 5.26457 Kcal
= 22027 Jules

THAT MEANS A HYDROXY CELL PRODUCING 1.5 LITERS OF HYDROXY GAS PER MINUTE IS RELEASING 22027 JULES OF ENERGY BY BURNING OF THAT GAS PER MINUTE. WHILE MOST OF THESE CELLS {some consume less or more} WICH PRODUCE 1.5 LITERS OF HYDROXY GAS PER MINUTE CONSUME ENERGY AT 14400 JULES PER MINUTE means 240 watts of HHO cell running on 12 volts and 20 amps.

[ I might be wrong in my methodology or calculation but I know free energy / zero point energy does exist. Before year 2000 I watched TV episodes on Discovery channel about man who is making so enormous amount of hydrogen gas from very less electricity. I think some guys have poisoned him. Discovery channel was showing things about cars and buses running on water only. One person converting water into extremely hot vapor in very less energy. Zero point energy was once discussed on discovery channel. When I ask some of my friends about episode shown on Discovery channel about zero point energy some remembered that. Now I find these videos are shared through torrents by peoples who want to spread awareness about free energy.]