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ernesto
1st August 2012, 14:49
That is it!
Apparently this happened in 1964
Ks-6DEFmEfo
gooty64
1st August 2012, 14:54
Any idea who/what country launched the nuke and who they were aiming it at?
ET's were probably protecting themselves and the Universe and not so much worried about earthlings. imho
Bill Ryan
1st August 2012, 15:41
Any idea who/what country launched the nuke and who they were aiming it at?
http://thenightsky.org/vandenberg.html
UFO Shoots Missile Launched From Vandenberg AFB
September 15, 1964
Vandenberg AFB - Lompoc, Ca
A crew of 120 military personnel at Vandenberg AFB prepared for the launch of at Atlas F missile. The launch took place as scheduled. However, at about 60 miles of altitude and traveling 11,000 to 14,000 M.P.H., the missile mysteriously malfunctioned and plunged into the Pacific Ocean.
Dr. Robert Jacobs, then a lieutenant, was in charge of filming the missile launch with a telescopic camera hooked to a radar display that kept the viewfinder locked on the missile. The next day, his superiors called in Jacobs to view the film. To his shock, he observed a round object hovering next to the missile.
Says Jacobs:
"It flew right up to our missile and emitted a vivid flash of light. Then it altered course and hovered briefly over our missile, and then there came a second vivid flash of light. Then the UFO flew around the missile twice and set off two more vivid flashes from different angles, and then it vanished. A few seconds later, our missile was malfunctioning and tumbling out of control."
Jacobs was ordered to remain silent about what he saw. He dutifully kept silent for 17 years, before he finally went public with his story. Despite his sterling reputation, he was immediately attacked by arch skeptics/debunkers Phil Klass & James Oberg. He also received numerous death threats, lost his employment, and his mailbox was destroyed with skyrockets following another threat.
Investigators, however, located Jacobs' superior, Major Mansmann, who, on multiple occasions, confirmed the details of Jacobs account. This account is one of several in which UFOs have shown their capability to affect even our most advanced technology.
bogeyman
1st August 2012, 15:45
As with many UFO related events the footage is classified. I think it would now be refered to as a OPREP -3 report (operational reports). I know the DOD has many OPREP-3 reports but are "very sensitive" and will not be released or even admitted to.
Taurean
1st August 2012, 15:52
Well, you would not expect a test launch to be armed.
So what was the target ?
Bill Ryan
1st August 2012, 15:59
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Here's a more detailed (better!) report -- no mention of any warhead.
My personal guess is that it was simply a demonstration of what the ETs could do any time they wanted to. They would have known it was all beng monitored and recorded.
http://nicap.org/reports/bigsur1.htm
T. Scott Crain, Jr:
Getting the Air Force to admit they have on film a UFO encircling an Atlas F missile while in flight, is not an easy thing to do. For the better part of a year, this researcher tried to track down a film taken by First Lieutenant Robert Jacobs of a UFO that interfered with a missile launch off the coast of California on September 15, 1964.
The 1369th Photographic Squadron dispatched from Vandenberg Air Force Base unwittingly filmed the UFO while tracking the missile some 60 miles above the Pacific Ocean. Two days later, Chief Science Officer at Vandenberg AFB, Major Florenz J. Mansmann, summoned Jacobs to his office to view the film. Among those present in Mansmann's office were two CIA agents from Washington, D.C.
As the men watched the rocket soar high in the sky, an unidentified light swims into the picture and encircles the rocket, emitting brilliant, strobe-like flashes, around the missile Upon closer inspection of the film, Mansmann confirmed later the light was definitely "saucer-shaped". According to Jacobs, the warhead malfunctioned while in flight, and fell several hundred miles short of its intended target. Mansmann tells Jacobs to keep quiet about the incident, and the two CIA agents leave with the film, which has never been seen again.
NEW TESTIMONY
When this researcher initially reported on this incident in the January, 1987 issue of the MUFON UFO JOURNAL, Mansmann's testimony was unavailable. Since then, he has responded to my inquiries, as well as OMNImagazine UFO writer, Eric Mishara, who was helpful in identifying a spokesman for the Air Force who claims the rocket did not go off course, but hit its target.
In a letter from Florenz Mansmann (May 6,1987), he confirmed Robert Jacobs' account of the incident that is described in detail in issue No. 225 of the Journal. Mansmann states he ordered Jacobs not to discuss the incident with anyone "... because of the nature of the launch, the failure of the launch mission and the probability that the optical instrumentation (the film) showed an interference with normal launch patterns."
Mansmann confirmed he studied the film, having screened it on four different occasions. Mansmann said he viewed the film "once in my quality control review and editing for the General and his staff; once in review with the Chief Scientist and his assistant; once for the Commanding General with only one of his staff; and a fourth time with the Chief Scientist, his assistant, the three government men and Bob Jacobs." If Mansmann's recollection is correct, a number of military officials viewed the film before the CIA agents confiscated it.
When asked why he told Jacobs to "tell no one about this," that "it never happened," Mansmann explained that he was "ordered not to discuss any of what was seen or discussed during the screenings. I only passed my order, as the ranking optical instrumentation officer, on to Lieutenant Jacobs."
Wouldn't the CIA agents have to sign out a military film before leaving the Air Force Base with it, I asked. According to Mansmann, "No film was ever released from our archives without a signature. I even signed out film when we had launch showings to VIPS in the General's office on short notice. However, I released the film to the Chief Scientist over his signature, then they departed."
I asked Mansmann to comment on an article about this case that appeared in OMNI, in which UFO writer Eric Mishara quoted an Air Force spokesman as saying, "We have no documentation of a UFO incident - The dummy warhead hit the target."
Mansmann claims the statements made by the AF spokesman makes no sense. If the Air Force spokesman did review a close-dated launch and saw nothing, it could not have been the launch that perpetuated such quick security action."
ANALYSIS
Mansmann's past military credentials are impressive, having served in special projects for the Air Force throughout his entire career. He worked on airborne radar during World War II, Air Defense Systems during the Korean War, and Airborne Reconnaissance Systems during what could be called the Cold War. He also worked with photo computerized systems of unprecedented utilization and intelligence gathering during the Vietnam conflict.
Whatever happened to the film both these Air Force officers claim the CIA took? I attempted to find out.
Beginning on January 19, 1987, a series of letters were forwarded to Vandenberg AFB in California, requesting under the Freedom of Information Act that copies of all films taken by the 1369th Photographic Squadron on September 15, 1964, be sent to me, along with any analyses that may have been performed on these films. At the end of this tedious letter-writing campaign, I finally reached Vandenberg's FOIA Manager, William I. McCorvey, who responded to my request. His last letter to me dated March 10, 1987, ended with "The records you requested do not exist in our files."
My associate in this investigation, Robert Todd of Citizens Against UFO Secrecy, also made similar FOIA requests to Vandenberg AFB for the film. His response from McCorvey in a letter dated March 27, 1987, ended with "... our records indicate that no Atlas F missiles were launched from Vandenberg AFB, CA on 15 September 1964." It was obvious that McCorvey either was not aware of, or wanted not to discuss with us the details behind this incident.
Another lead in our search for information was the article written by Eric Mishara entitled, "UFO Cover up," in the January 1985 issue of OMNI. Mishara writes that an Air Force spokesman knew of this reported incident, indicated that there was no UFO, and that the missile successfully hit its target. Here was an Air force officer who publicly admitted that he had knowledge of what happened, and could even report the Atlas F missile did not veer off course but completed its mission.
Through the assistance of a senior editor at OMNI, I was able to track down Mishara at his residence. "Who was the Air Force spokesman you quoted in your article," I asked. His answer surprised me. It was a Sergeant Lorri Wray who worked in Media Relations at none other than Vandenberg AFB, California. Needless to say, a letter to Sergeant Wray on September 7, 1987, went unanswered and unreturned.
In the end, if it was not for the courage of Robert Jacobs and Florenz Mansmann in coming forth and telling what happened, we may never have known about the saucer-shaped UFO that caused a missile to crash near Vandenberg AFB in 1964.
Source: MUFON UFO Journal, No. 245, September 1988
(T. Scott Crain is a MUFON Journal staff writer and state section director for Pennsylvania)
gooty64
1st August 2012, 16:06
Thanks for the info.
It was launched in California 1964
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Was it actually loaded with nuke juice or not?
If it was loaded then- is there any testimony who it was intended for?
If it was an unloaded test missile then were the ET's over-reacting, unsure that it was loaded, or just sending a message to the test launchers?
D. none of the above-something else?
E. too many dumb questions
Any idea who/what country launched the nuke and who they were aiming it at?
http://thenightsky.org/vandenberg.html
UFO Shoots Missile Launched From Vandenberg AFB
September 15, 1964
Vandenberg AFB - Lompoc, Ca
A crew of 120 military personnel at Vandenberg AFB prepared for the launch of at Atlas F missile. The launch took place as scheduled. However, at about 60 miles of altitude and traveling 11,000 to 14,000 M.P.H., the missile mysteriously malfunctioned and plunged into the Pacific Ocean.
Dr. Robert Jacobs, then a lieutenant, was in charge of filming the missile launch with a telescopic camera hooked to a radar display that kept the viewfinder locked on the missile. The next day, his superiors called in Jacobs to view the film. To his shock, he observed a round object hovering next to the missile.
Says Jacobs:
"It flew right up to our missile and emitted a vivid flash of light. Then it altered course and hovered briefly over our missile, and then there came a second vivid flash of light. Then the UFO flew around the missile twice and set off two more vivid flashes from different angles, and then it vanished. A few seconds later, our missile was malfunctioning and tumbling out of control."
Jacobs was ordered to remain silent about what he saw. He dutifully kept silent for 17 years, before he finally went public with his story. Despite his sterling reputation, he was immediately attacked by arch skeptics/debunkers Phil Klass & James Oberg. He also received numerous death threats, lost his employment, and his mailbox was destroyed with skyrockets following another threat.
Investigators, however, located Jacobs' superior, Major Mansmann, who, on multiple occasions, confirmed the details of Jacobs account. This account is one of several in which UFOs have shown their capability to affect even our most advanced technology.
GoodETxSG
1st August 2012, 16:15
The war heads are called "dummies" by the launch crew. However, do you think they are going to waste an opportunity to place something in LEO for free piggy backed on another program? I am sure these dummy war heads are monitored and this one may have had a payload that was "unknown" to the vast majority of the participants in the launch.
My opinion based on what I have heard about launch tests being used to place "items" in orbit... this was most likely technology that was considered a possible threat to whom ever was controlling the attack vehicle (Be it just one of the break away societies of earth or one of our many watcher/manipulator races).
It could also have been a show of force against a violation of some sort of treaty that was being violated or skirted. The politics of space are so dynamic and complicated because of the races/groups involved that us as "Earthlings" have very little say so what goes on in our own atmosphere (And beneath the oceans and continents) let alone outside our atmosphere.
Disclosure, true disclosure is an interesting prospect indeed... But that is an off topic and completely different discussion.
Doctor
1st August 2012, 21:57
My take on this is that UFO's don't always have to be extraterrestrial. We know that other militaries have alien technology. So when maybe a different country sees them about to launch a nuke (possibly not know it was a dummy), they choose to disarm it.
bogeyman
1st August 2012, 23:00
Another classic encounter was at Loring AFB, Maine October 27, 1975, in which the UFO was circling the nuclear weapons storage area to within 300 yards of the facility.
http://www.nicap.org/ncp/ncp-loringafb.htm
WhiteFeather
1st August 2012, 23:14
Now thats some deep technology our friends from the stars possess ehh?
bogeyman
2nd August 2012, 00:29
I have heard of an encounter with an aircraft carrier, the whole thing went dead when a UFO appeared. I quote:
"Would you be interested in details of several UFO sightings by crew members of the U.S. Navy’s 45,000 ton aircraft-carrier Franklin D. Roosevelt CVA - 42.
I was myself a member of her crew from 1958 to 1960, and I was one of the many eyewitnesses in one of the UFO sightings, in September or October of 1958. The ship was on a shake-down cruise off the U.S. Naval Base of Guantanamo in Cuba, at between 8.00 and 10.00pm, when a small light appeared and started following us and then headed straight for us. The sky was clear, the air warm, and, as I was not on duty I had gone up on to the flight-deck (where I should not rightly have been).
Suddenly the thing was overhead; it was cigar-shaped, with a row of windows, through which we could see the figures of people watching us. I could feel the heat from the craft on my face. It was quite silent. Altogether I estimate that up to 25 other men who were there on the flight deck also saw it.
Through the ship’s intercom someone from the bridge watch was screaming for the officer of the deck or bridge to get up there at the double. Then suddenly the object turned to a red-orange colour. (This was when, against the dark night sky, I was able to see its ‘cigar’ shape.) And it vanished rapidly. Meanwhile the ship’s own movement had stopped suddenly. I estimate that the sighting may have lasted five minutes or more.
Special investigators from the CIA subsequently came aboard the carrier. (On the pretext that they were allegedly investigating "gambling below-deck"!) But they questioned many sailors about this sighting. My own Petty Officer First Class questioned me about what I had seen and I replied that I did not know what it was. After that, I heard nothing more about the matter.
Years later, after I had left the Navy, I joined the FDR Reunion Group so as to be in touch with some of the others who had been with me on the flight-deck that night and who might help me to document the event.
The widow of one of my friends (he had since died) told me he had discussed it with her and had spoken of "a big red ball leaving the ship". And gradually I learned of quite a lot of other UFO sightings from aboard our ship.
One other such sighting --- now quite famous --- had been on September 20, 1952, when the F.D. Roosevelt was taking part in "Operation Mainbrace" with the NATO fleets, in the English Channel and North Sea. Three photographs of the UFO, a fast-flying disc, were taken at the time, by a journalist named Wallace Litwin who was aboard our carrier. The disc was following the NATO ships. Those who saw the disc were numerous. And there were also many other UFO sightings in Western Europe on that same day during the NATO exercise. One of these sightings was of a flying disc, seemingly metallic, at 7.30 pm over the most important military airfield in Denmark.
In the course of my enquiries, I discovered evidence of at least three and probably more, other UFO sightings from my carrier. One, in 1953, had been observed by the bridge watch and picked up on the Commander-in-Chief’s radar.
In 1956 there came another sighting, when the ship was anchored in the harbour at Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, and UFOs were seen by many of the crew, including officers. I learned that one of the witnesses drew sketches of the UFOs. The sketches were sent to the U.S. Department of Defence, and the witness was warned that he "should tell nobody about it for twenty years."
In that same year, 1956, came yet another sighting - by a Chief Warrant Officer, and it was also registered on the radar of the Commander-in-Chief. The radar operators said the UFO vanished off their ‘scope’ after only two or three sweeps. And I also know that there were more cases yet.
But we can be sure that the Regulation JANAP 146 (E) will have prevented details of any of these cases getting onto the warship’s log-books. However I possess letters of testimony from a number of crew members. I also enclose herewith, along with a photo of the carrier USS Franklin D. Roosevelt, prints of two of the photos of the flying disc taken on September 20, 1952 by Wallace Litwin during "Operation Mainbrace", and a sketch of the scene on our flightdeck on the night in 1958 when, off the coast of Cuba, I saw the big ‘cigar.’ This sketch was made by my companion and fellow-witness William Scott. Along with the photo of our carrier, I also enclose a copy of the official U.S. Navy’s MERINT radio-telegraph procedure chart for reporting UFOs, and a copy of the letter of promulgation issued on March 31, 1966, by the Joint Chiefs of Staff in connection with JANAP 146 (E) instructions for the reporting of vital Intelligence sightings (incidentally still in force today.)
Finally I should mention that the F.D. Roosevelt was decomissioned in October 1977 and sold for scrapping in March 1978."
http://www.fsr.org.uk/fsrart4.htm
Craig
2nd August 2012, 06:10
from a technological viewpoint the idea of a craft moving around a missile at 11000 - 14000 mph is amazing, to stay in contact and to move around it to shoot the light whilst travelling at these speeds, what levels are we looking at here? even at a tenth of that speed is amazing. When you watch a formula 1 race and the cars are side by side at 150 - 200 mph a little move has the car skittish and the like, I know it is on the 2D of a track so exponential speeds with an extra dimension?
amazing
delfine
2nd August 2012, 07:08
Truly amazing footage..
bogeyman
9th August 2012, 16:18
This is a good website pertaining to the 1968 UFO encounter at Minot AFB.
http://minotb52ufo.com/introduction.php
jimmer
9th August 2012, 17:12
I hope everyone realizes that the video 'footage' is simulation animation.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONsrx67le4Q
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