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freespirit
1st August 2012, 15:45
Been thinking of ditching the telly but,

crosby
1st August 2012, 15:48
i have a television, but i do not have cable or satellite stuff. the only thing i watch on my television is my dvd's. i ditched television programming several years ago. and i do not miss it. go for it, ditch the crap. there isn't anything on there that will do you any good.
regards, corson

Bill Ryan
1st August 2012, 15:49
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Me. I keep abreast of world news on CNN (http://cnn.com), BBC (http://bbc.co.uk), Al Jazeera (http://www.aljazeera.com), Russia Today (http://rt.com)... and the Avalon Forum. :)

Olam
1st August 2012, 15:49
:bounce:
3 years now, feels great!
That source of light is not authentic and its getting worst every year.
Playing on your ego and desires, limiting your true potential.
A part of you is telling you that its time to go forward !

Kristin
1st August 2012, 15:55
I got rid of the box a long time ago. 14 years now? It's wonderful. I notice that many folks talk about TV shows and not much else. It's nice not be contained in one's way of thinking and expressing.

From the Heart,
Kristin

Carmody
1st August 2012, 16:01
The last time i had a telivision, is when I was watching it on one hour, on sundays, to see the new episodes of the x- files. Other than that, it was shut off.

Then... G. Junior won the US election, and I said, "I've had enough of you, and If I see one more second, I'm going to put my boot through the television."

And that was done after I had done the German Christmas thing, for about 5 years, where if you where bad, you got a lump of coal in your Christmas sock, on Christmas morning. I had modified that so there was a big lump of coal on the top of the TV. So if I turned it on, I had to look at this big lump of coal.

Basically, I stopped watching television (removed from the house) completely in 2000, but had nearly stopped period, since about 1992-1994.

Of course, I was one of the internet originals, and was on the net before it existed. (late 80's the beginnings...and then fleshed out in the early 1990's)

That desire for input and then also ..exchange..it has to go somewhere, it does not simply go away on it's own.

Christine
1st August 2012, 16:05
Hi,

I haven't had a television for over 20 years... never missed it. I actually know that part of my awakening was turning off and tuning out the TV. I can't actually listen to television, it sounds like babble to me, literally I can't focus on the words so they make no sense at all.

Many of my childhood years were relatively television free, our set broke and my family couldn't afford to replace it. I do remember feeling deprived and would eagerly watch shows at friends houses. It felt like if you didn't know what was going on on television you were not part of the community. Insidious really how it took over.

Good thread.

Christine

Carmody
1st August 2012, 16:06
Think of it this way. If the world was ending, you'd open the door of the the house..and see everyone running around madly....and at that point, you'd know (right or wrong) as much as they do. And if one was working with the internet, you'd likely see it coming long before and know exactly what it is, which they, of TV land... would not be privy to.

the mind takes TIME to re-wire, so expect a few months of bodily pining and whining, as one re-learns how to operate without the idiot box eating up one's time.

To re-iterate a very important point made by the hypnotist and regressionist Dolores Cannon, she said that in her understanding (of some study she had looked at) that no person has ever been found..who can survive watching television for more than 30 seconds(!)..WITHOUT going into the auto-hypnotic suggestive state (or some similar mental state).

You physiologically slip into the passive data acceptance mode, when you watch television.

Seriously so.

Rosco1
1st August 2012, 16:09
Iv'e had no TV now for five years AND have No regrets!

Still get the regular letters for me to renew my licence - No Chance there!

People think I am weird because I choose not to have a television and yet I am more upto date than they are regarding true events around the globe.

People seem to waste much of their precious time on watching soaps or playing on there playstations, X box etc.

They need to get a life!

RMorgan
1st August 2012, 16:17
We have a TV here, but it´s always turned off.

I enjoy reading much more than watching videos, but whenever I don´t feel like reading, it´s great to watch some movies and documentaries.

I got myself a video projector, so I can download whatever I want from the internet and watch it like in a movie theater, with the advantages that I don´t need to go to a shopping mall and socialize with a bunch of zombies whenever I want to watch a movie.

Feels much better when you can actually choose whatever you want to watch, instead of wasting time switching between stupid TV channels. I feel sick whenever I watch the TV; I can´t stand to watch it for more than 5 minutes.

I´ll get married next year and when we eventually have kids, I´ll definitively dump my TV.

I really don´t want my kids to get brainwashed by stupid cartoons and tv shows, while they could invest their time learning a musical instrument, reading cool books or just playing outside with friends.

I have a 5 years old nephew ; whenever he isn´t at school, he´s watching TV (drooling in front of it, actually) or playing video games. It´s really sad to see him growing up like that.

What kind of adult will he become? Probably, when he grows up, things wont change much. He´ll work in a stupid job all day long and waste the rest of his time watching TV and drinking beer when he gets home.

To all of you who have young kids, don´t let their lives be sucked by a TV. They wont understand your choice right now and their friend´s parents will call you weird, but I´m sure they´ll thank you in the future.

Raf.

Kindred
1st August 2012, 16:22
If "everything goes well'', it will be only for a little while longer until I'm completely 'free' of the current paradigm. I had begun the 'transition' a short bit ago, but still need to rid myself of some constraints. This won't happen until the beginning of the new year. Just the same, I've not had tee-vee since '95, but did keep the set. Had it set up when I bought my home in '02, but only watched the 'news' on occasion - didn't have cable or Anything. Only got 1 station through my rabbit ears and the news was the Only thing it was on for - weather in the morning, and national news in the evening, but never consistently - WAY too much to do and keep active with.

When they invaded Iraq, they showed some night-vision feed from a Huey gunship... and slaughtered some civilians right there on prime time - that did it... haven't watched anything since, and I've weened myself from even the 'alternative' news over the last few months.

It's ALL FEAR PORN. I've NO USE for Any of it.

Now I've got some really interesting projects that will allow for more 'transitions' away from the current energy paradigms, and look forward to this new chapter in my own life, and Mother Earth's.

I'll repeat - MEDITATE

"Let thine eye be single, and thy whole body will be filled with Light"

In Unity, Peace and Love

DarMar
1st August 2012, 16:23
For some 13 years i live without TV and radios. I do not track mainstrim media on daily basis, but sometimes i look on some sites arround, in fact i dont track news serving at all. Rather i look for people opinions throught net, my fav is of course Avalon as here one can find such wide spectrum of news, insights, ideas, opinions and rather than just suck ideas into brain it develops discussion and different opinions.
As my past job i worked on few TV stations here and one of my oldest interest was video montage, still when beta cassetes was involved alot. I did montaged breaking news and "informative" programs. The day I stopped watching TVand track news is a day i started to montage news :)
When I realised how much false information, stealing other stations false info and putting false picture on some false text stumbled me so much that i had to stop doing that, and that one put me in 3D animation and doing cartoons and video animations rather than doing work on filling human brain with nonsense.
But don't worry that false info finds his way arround TV today.. goes through internet more and more, there is so much interference and false information on net that is real art to filter any useful info out of it.
Also i did a wast number of "educational" documentary movies which is so much damaged info cause of involvement of TV stations. To release one good documentary TV stations needs to interfere alot and change content. For example we did one on war in ex-Yugoslavia and we pointed real info towards making that war on purpose and deal between presidents and their master plan. When we presented work on one local station, they sent one guy which changed alot of info telling that is the only way that documentary sees its day on that station. I was just animation dude, no more or less and producer agreed on changing content which got me personally so angry that i decided to leave in middle of it without collecting any payement from it. They released it anyways and response from people was: "such a great info and deep understanding of things unfolding" .. WHICH WAS TOTALLY FALSE
It made me sad from inside how easily is to present things in such media, you can easily hide real content and truth and make watcher to see only what you want him to see. That fact is real horror to me.

Today i cant even be in a room while TV works when i come to visit some friend. Simply i politely take remoteand turn it of, if he turns it on i simply leave :)
Cause i noticed that i can suck info even passively while not giving any attention to it, it simply hipnotises anyone in presence of it.
Also I noticed that is real art to get involved in any constructional conversation with TV people cause they are so much INFORMED on events and so much in denial and standing in "reality" makes conversation end in predictable ways like .. if only our goverment would.... what to do in recession .. what if war .. what if this and that .. not to mention those new age metereopat weather forecast like: today we gonna feel sad and tommorow will be happy :P

And when you throw your TV out of window than you realise one more awfull fact.. Buildings in city's are full of antennas, ordinary city is full of radio and TV signals traveling through peoples brain even if they don't have any apartaus to catch those signal. Tons of low frequencies march through air 0-24 affecting human behaviour and will.

It's tinfoil hats time :jaw:

modwiz
1st August 2012, 16:31
I have no TV. I use my flat screen for DVD's. I will not fund a cable company for their product.

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Been thinking of ditching the telly but,
But, what? Whatever is holding you back isn't pretty.

Prodigal Son
1st August 2012, 16:36
Got rid of mine six years ago when I started my awakening.... about the time I quit smoking. Combined savings: About $500 per month, and untold amounts in medical/psycho-therapy expenses.

If I want to watch a ball game, I go to the sports bar down the block.

Thanks mostly to Colin Powell, bless his heart, for admitting in front of the UN that they knew there were no WMD's in Iraq. Made me wonder if ANYTHING they tell us is true. Sure enough, not much of it is.

freespirit
1st August 2012, 16:36
i have a television, but i do not have cable or satellite stuff. the only thing i watch on my television is my dvd's. i ditched television programming several years ago. and i do not miss it. go for it, ditch the crap. there isn't anything on there that will do you any good.
regards, corson

Cheers corson.

I have cable and I am finding most of it on constant cycle of repeats.

seko
1st August 2012, 16:37
No tv here since 2009.

Sold it very cheap and bought some food. That was money well spent.

freespirit
1st August 2012, 16:42
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Me. I keep abreast of world news on CNN (http://cnn.com), BBC (http://bbc.co.uk), Al Jazeera (http://www.aljazeera.com), Russia Today (http://rt.com)... and the Avalon Forum. :)

Oddly bill you can get rt on freeview for nowt.

Mark
1st August 2012, 16:45
Our TV has no cable, we use it to listen to music and watch movies sometimes. It has only been a year or so since we've been TV-less, persay.

Because I study and write on pop culture, I used to watch TV in order to dissect the paradigm. That included reality shows, the news, HBO series and movies. And they were and are entertaining! I'd watch the mainstream news just to see what lies were important at the moment or what the spin was, because that was indicative of what was really going on behind the scenes.

I only watch a few things now. Falling Skies, Merlin, Game of Thrones, So You Think You Can Dance, Spartacus, Fringe, X-Factor, American Idol, the Walking Dead, Survivor and whatever almost new movies are out that we might find interesting.

Now I can get all of that I want without the commercials or subliminals on the Net, more particularly, at the Pirate Bay. Haaaaaarrrrrr!!!!!

ulli
1st August 2012, 16:46
I don't watch TV at all, but often think of putting my boot through my husband's TV addiction.
But then I catch myself and remember my commitment to having a marriage in which the partner receives the space to be himself. Which in turn allows me to be an Avalonian.
There was a time when I was alone a lot so I had House and Garden TV running in the background, but even that became an annoyance...except for the shows that remodel a home on a shoestring.

Mark
1st August 2012, 16:49
Oh yeh, when I'm at my lady's mother's house, I always turn the tv to HGTV. I like to look at House Hunters International. LOL

SKAWF
1st August 2012, 16:49
mmm, i dont watch TV as such.

i used to, but i found myself constantly raging at advertising. (i hate it.)
and after waking up to whats happening in the world,
i didnt see a point in watching the news either.
(well lets face it.... we know where things are going already!)

so i erm.... acquired all the programs that i like. i have them on a 2tb hard drive

ive saved myself about £250 a year, no adverts, no news.

i am much less angry than i was.

it was things like the adverts being broadcast at 3 times the sound volume of the prorgams

i swear, once i heard an advert that kept repeating the word 'cancer' over and over and over
and a million other things.

so i'd say, keep the good things and get rid of the bad.
dont throw the baby out with the bathwater.

ps

one of my favourite programs, is the onedin line.

freespirit
1st August 2012, 16:49
:bounce:
3 years now, feels great!
That source of light is not authentic and its getting worst every year.
Playing on your ego and desires, limiting your true potential.
A part of you is telling you that its time to go forward !

I know.But I love the simpsons:tsk:

modwiz
1st August 2012, 17:00
:bounce:
3 years now, feels great!
That source of light is not authentic and its getting worst every year.
Playing on your ego and desires, limiting your true potential.
A part of you is telling you that its time to go forward !

I know.But I love the simpsons:tsk:

I see you are focusing on the important things. :rolleyes:

Karunai
1st August 2012, 17:00
I have an old tv, that was actually a gift... from my dad, his old tv -"nice way" to recycle... now that I think about it lol-. Most of the time it's off, and when on -and mute- it's used only as a lamp. A nice antique, from another timeline. : D

Spiral
1st August 2012, 17:10
Been thinking of ditching the telly but,

Try watching "Leeds TV" on Showcase..........I guarantee it'll be in't bin in 2minutes.....;)

cloudno7
1st August 2012, 17:11
i don't have TV

Cartomancer
1st August 2012, 17:15
I do not own a TV. I gave it up about five years ago. I get my news from where ever I choose to. My guitar playing has improved dramatically and I read twice as much as I ever did. I wrote a book. I also use the extra time to learn movie making and music recording. Get rid of it. You will be amazed how you begin to see the world.

IndigoStar
1st August 2012, 17:18
I have a tv. I hook it up to the laptop and watch youtube videos and movies on the big screen.

Sometimes I watch the news channels to see what's happening in the world, but just like 5 minutes to get a quick update.

I love watching Simpsons, Family Guy and The Big Bang Theory. I find it a great way to relax and they also make me laugh which I think is healthy. I love spotting the references to symbolism, NWO etc..
When the adverts are on I usually mute the tv or turn over.

I noticed that when I'm working I feel more drawn to watching tv because I'm so exhausted I just want to shut off to the world and zone out, but when I'm not working I feel more like meditating and reading and get easily bored by the tv. I just listen to my body and let myself do what I feel like doing...no point in being too strict or rigid!

Antagenet
1st August 2012, 17:19
Never bought one. Was given one but kept it covered with a shroud and rarely watched it, then gave it away in 1987.

Swan
1st August 2012, 17:25
I have a 5 years old nephew ; whenever he isn´t at school, he´s watching TV (drooling in front of it, actually) or playing video games. It´s really sad to see him growing up like that.

What kind of adult will he become? Probably, when he grows up, things wont change much. He´ll work in a stupid job all day long and waste the rest of his time watching TV and drinking beer when he gets home.

To all of you who have young kids, don´t let their lives be sucked by a TV. They wont understand your choice right now and their friend´s parents will call you weird, but I´m sure they´ll thank you in the future.

Raf.

My son didn´t watch TV for the first 5 years of his life. Then I succumbed to the pressure from familly and friends.

Now he and his sister watch TV maybe a couple of times a week, and dvds sometimes too.

I see a difference how my son and daughter respond to TV. My son is definatly hypnotised and will watch TV for hours until someone switches it off.

My daughter will get bored after about an hour, and go off and play.

So I am very happy I stuck to my guns for the first 5 years of my sons life ( since he is obviously very easily addicted to TV ). As a result my son is alot more creative than his peers, and never complains he is bored. He also doesn´t "get" video games. He just doesn´t enjoy them. He would much rather build something in lego.

BUT I do think watching TV sometimes is important for children, since EVERYBODY else does ( at least where I live ). Being too different is painful.

GlassSteagallfan
1st August 2012, 17:29
Stopped watching "the weapon of mass deception" bout 3 years now.

Bought a laptop with s-video out and now download documentaries etc, from the internet. Use the TV to play the long documentaries sitting on a couch vs. sitting on the office chair.

Also get news from multiple websites.

M6*
1st August 2012, 17:37
ME.....One of the best decisions I ever made:-) M6*

gooty64
1st August 2012, 17:45
I have had no TV reception period for years. But I do have a 47" big screen HDM1 Vizio left over my store I closed last year.

I run my macbook through the 47" big screen and it practically changed my life!

The big TV is great for youtube videos and programs.

Spiral of Light
1st August 2012, 17:52
I don't. Haven't watched TV in at least two years.

I do have a small TV with a DVD player so that I can play movies when my grandchildren are here, but it is not hooked up to cable and I have no off-air reception.

Don't miss it at all... and find that I have much more time to do more meaningful things. I catch up with the news online because I never trusted mainstream media anyway.

Limor Wolf
1st August 2012, 18:08
I have no Tv for for about 7 years now, before that I used to watch very little, mostly 'Eastenders' :rolleyes:
I resonate with what Christine wrote about telvision programs sounds to her like babbeling. I think Tv has the potential to turn me ADD in 5 minutes.

I hope you don't mind me catching a ride on freespirit's question: Who here has no Microwave?

Michelle Marie
1st August 2012, 18:15
I heard internal guidance to stop watching tv over 10 years ago! I haven't watched it in years. I was living with a boyfriend who started watching tv and I had to move out. I can't stand the vibration. I was wondering what to do about when it's on at other people's houses...this is an idea, but I feel like I should communicate its effect on me first. It could raise awareneness, IF there is receptivity to the idea. If not, I'm in the wrong place!

"Today i cant even be in a room while TV works when i come to visit some friend. Simply i politely take remoteand turn it of, if he turns it on i simply leave
Cause i noticed that i can suck info even passively while not giving any attention to it, it simply hipnotises anyone in presence of it."

Michelle Marie
1st August 2012, 18:21
ABOUT KIDS:

I stopped getting cable tv for my son when he was about 11. He had to rely on the internet. I also home-schooled him and taught him with new teaching instruments that I developed for "Follow Your Heart" education. He uses his creativity now to make videos. He's 25 and has been supporting himself for 8 years through the skills he has developed. I'm proud of him and I'm glad he is a pioneer in the new paradigm way of being -- creative freedom.

Deborah (ahamkara)
1st August 2012, 19:32
No TV for the last 5 years. Did not have TV in college. Had a TV while raising children (wasn't quite as awake :). It is the number one first step to clearing your head. TV is a major programming tool - you will see this right away once you remove it from your life. Also, "Pratyahara" or sense withdrawal is one of the limbs on the yogic path, and I cannot imagine trying to practice this with the nonstop stimulation of TV. Thanks for this thread. It makes one feel a bit less alone in a sea of TV addiction. Peace.

kersley
1st August 2012, 20:14
I have a 65" plasma TV, How good is the picture? It's never been connected. but sure looks good on my wall..

Earth Angel
1st August 2012, 20:18
we got rid of the cable 2 years ago.......to this day my mother still says " I was going to call you last night because there was a great show on tv'..........this I highly doubt!!
I love not having cable......I still get my dose of programming from dvd's though .......my mother actually asked me the other day what do i do at night with no tv?? i said, we read, we talk, we listen to music, we meditate.....sometimes we watch a video......this is something she just can't seem to get.

I love the line from Jim Carrey's Cable Guy " somebody has to kill the baby sitter"........so many people think they HAVE to have a TV because they have kids!!.......yea and diet coke while they're at it??

Earth Angel
1st August 2012, 20:24
I have no Tv for for about 7 years now, before that I used to watch very little, mostly 'Eastenders' :rolleyes:
I resonate with what Christine wrote about telvision programs sounds to her like babbeling. I think Tv has the potential to turn me ADD in 5 minutes.

I hope you don't mind me catching a ride on freespirit's question: Who here has no Microwave?

another great question Limor..........we have the microwave that we bought several years ago but we don't use it.....i keep trying to give it away but so far no takers and again i feel a little like i am giving something damaging to someone.......I know they are using their own and will buy a new one if theirs breaks but somehow I feel like it should be turned into a filing cabinet lol

IndigoStar
1st August 2012, 20:40
We were given a microwave as a present but never use it. I really don't trust those things! My in-laws microwave EVERYTHING because their doctor told them it's the healthiest way to cook!!! : S
So at their house I have to eat microwaved food to be polite! I do detox when I get home!

Eram
1st August 2012, 21:01
Been thinking of ditching the telly but,

ditch it!
Can't think of a easier way of taking back some of the power that people give away in the course of their lives.

TigaHawk
1st August 2012, 21:16
I have one, but its not been connected to an antenna, nor capable of playing normal telly without one.

Only gets used rarely, for DVD's that my partner and I watch.

I suck at socialising with others, as all they seem to talk about is celebraties, fashion and gossip. I dont even know actors real names, i refer to them as the character from such and such movie.

RunningDeer
1st August 2012, 21:16
About 3 years ago, I decided to cancel my basic cable service with “Charter Cable TV”. I explained it TV was geared to a younger crowd, reality TV, and creepy, violent shows. It was clear that it was the gentleman’s job to keep the customer, so he suggested bundling or pick a channel that I’d were prefer to have as part of the package. I explain that when you bundle, it’s a hassle to change providers and one is locked into when the service either increases or a poorer show selection. The final solution was to reduce the bill from $30 to $5 a month for a year, and I could cancel without penalty.

Again, I went to cancel and they dropped the price by 50% for the last two years now. I kept the service because there was talk about the internet shutdown. But I figured, shut down or not, it still would be a mind control machine even more so. I cancel service several months ago.

Christine
1st August 2012, 21:32
I have no Tv for for about 7 years now, before that I used to watch very little, mostly 'Eastenders' :rolleyes:
I resonate with what Christine wrote about telvision programs sounds to her like babbeling. I think Tv has the potential to turn me ADD in 5 minutes.

I hope you don't mind me catching a ride on freespirit's question: Who here has no Microwave?

another great question Limor..........we have the microwave that we bought several years ago but we don't use it.....i keep trying to give it away but so far no takers and again i feel a little like i am giving something damaging to someone.......I know they are using their own and will buy a new one if theirs breaks but somehow I feel like it should be turned into a filing cabinet lol

Use it for a Faraday cage.. microwaves work to protect electronics from EMPs and CMEs... If there was a large solar event you could save your most valuable electronics by putting them in the microwave. You need to cut the cord off and seal the hole with aluminum tape.. (check this out to make sure) There are lots of YouTube videos about home made Faraday cages.

Whatever you do Don't use it to cook food. :)

SKAWF
1st August 2012, 21:38
No tv here since 2009.

Sold it very cheap and bought some food. That was money well spent.


that post knocked me over.

ThePythonicCow
1st August 2012, 21:39
Been thinking of ditching the telly but,

I've never had a TV of my own in my life ... (though in years past a parent, then a former spouse, had one.)

I've not lived in a household with a TV for over a decade.

Christine
1st August 2012, 21:44
No tv here since 2009.

Sold it very cheap and bought some food. That was money well spent.


that post knocked me over.

I loved that one too... thanks seko.

WhiteFeather
1st August 2012, 22:20
Since after my brain was rewired by ETs or from some sort of an awakening that occured in 2010 if you will...... I slowly stopped watching The Tell Lie Vision. When HD was instituted and i purchased an HD T.V. I could no longer be in an area where there was a TV set. Gives me Headaches and Scrambles the brain matter, much like when you are preparing an omelette. Its also highly insulting to watch as well, especially The LameStream News along with Those Ass-Clown News reporters. The radio effects me the same way. Not sure why this happened. I use to love watching Movies, and Ice Hockey. When my kids watch TV, I have to evacuate the room and sometimes the residence. Its very difficult.

bogeyman
1st August 2012, 22:27
I didnt have a TV for six months, I got so harrassed by the TV licence people I decided to have one again. The first thing I noticed was the manipulative adverts, and frankly a lot of the substance of TV programs was frankly awful. It is very addictive too. I now only switch it on when there is something I wish to watch, by with the internet having such a large choice, that is getting less and less.

RunningDeer
1st August 2012, 22:35
I didnt have a TV for six months, I got so harrassed by the TV licence people I decided to have one again. The first thing I noticed was the manipulative adverts, and frankly a lot of the substance of TV programs was frankly awful. It is very addictive too. I now only switch it on when there is something I wish to watch, by with the internet having such a large choice, that is getting less and less.

I'm judging here: " I got so harrassed by the TV licence people I decided to have one again. "

You Whhhhhaaaattttttttt? Please, please tell me this is a joke? Even if it is not, please lie. Pretty please...just....lie.

Never mind. I've already done that for you. I feel better already. http://serve.mysmiley.net/cool/cool0012.gif (http://www.mysmiley.net)

Jean-Luc
1st August 2012, 22:36
No more TV for the last 8-9 years or so. First, we removed it from the sitting room and put it in an inhospitable place: the either too cold or too hot attic. And then, gradually and very quickly, we completely forgot about it :)

Earth Angel
1st August 2012, 22:42
Oh I forgot to mention that my husband wont even leave the tv plugged in when we are not watching it as he says it can still be used by TPTB to program you just by having it plugged in and not even turned on!!..........maybe he is wrong but we aren't taking any chances!!

enfoldedblue
1st August 2012, 22:44
Here's some posts I wrote on a similar thread: Re: How many avalonians have/own or watch TV ? (Sorry I don't know how to make it link)

Wow it is amazing to see how many people here have ditched the tv and radio! I'm sure it's no coincidence that there are so many aware people here...and so little tv watching going on. I have a memory of my first experience with television. I would have been very very young and I remember it felt unbelievably intensely powerful. Like a deep swirling vortex, it was at once very frightening and incredibly alluring at the same time. However, the more I watched it, the more 'normal' it became.

Tv played a big role in the end of my last relationship. My partner loved to vege in front of the box and it would drive me crazy because no matter where I went in the house I could not escape the horrible sound. Now it has been 6 yrs since I had that invasive technology in my home...luckily my current partner feels the same.

I do feel losing the idiot box assists with extricating ourselves from the matrix, and allows us to tune into our own vibe. It's the kind of thing that feels difficult at first ...but before you know you realize you are missing nothing, and have gained so much!

*****
I remember once watching the news (after not watching tv for a long period) and the anchorman said what would you think if you heard.......bla bla bla (can't remember). I began to think about it..what would I think if I heard...bla bla bla. As I began formulating my ideas, I was interupted by the anchorman saying "you would think bla bla bla". I remember being stunned...hey you #$&tard that wasn't what I was thinking at all. I wonder how many people don't even bother trying to formulate their own thoughts and just wait for the television to tell them what to think. Life without tv is liberating on so many levels!

Christine
1st August 2012, 22:52
I didnt have a TV for six months, I got so harrassed by the TV licence people I decided to have one again. The first thing I noticed was the manipulative adverts, and frankly a lot of the substance of TV programs was frankly awful. It is very addictive too. I now only switch it on when there is something I wish to watch, by with the internet having such a large choice, that is getting less and less.

I'm judging here: " I got so harrassed by the TV licence people I decided to have one again. "

You Whhhhhaaaattttttttt? Please, please tell me this is a joke? Even if it is not, please lie. Pretty please...just....lie.

Never mind. I've already done that for you. I feel better already. http://serve.mysmiley.net/cool/cool0012.gif (http://www.mysmiley.net)

Wow, I some how missed that on a first read through.... scary, scary to think that you can get harassed into having a TV. Is this common practice? I would actually like to know, it underscores how essential that particular media is to get the hypnotic message out. Scary indeed. :behindsofa:

Carmen
1st August 2012, 23:16
I don't have television. It is soo dumbingly boring!! Sex and murder!! And they wonder why people murder each other and are obsessed with sex, it's their minds diet! What people watch, they copy, especially kids! There are some stunningly beautiful nature program's but I couldn't be bothered paying for the rest of the crap!

christian
1st August 2012, 23:54
No TV since 2007, no microwave either :cool:
TV just didn't appeal to me anymore, it was not like having to stop smoking when you don't want to.

meeradas
2nd August 2012, 00:25
Quit tv in '94.

Won't make a difference - everyone, no matter if you don't have a device, reject the whole thing, or worse, are blind and deaf, shall have to pay the mandatory household state tv fee here in Germoney from 2013... :boxing:

bogeyman
2nd August 2012, 00:26
I didnt have a TV for six months, I got so harrassed by the TV licence people I decided to have one again. The first thing I noticed was the manipulative adverts, and frankly a lot of the substance of TV programs was frankly awful. It is very addictive too. I now only switch it on when there is something I wish to watch, by with the internet having such a large choice, that is getting less and less.

I'm judging here: " I got so harrassed by the TV licence people I decided to have one again. "

You Whhhhhaaaattttttttt? Please, please tell me this is a joke? Even if it is not, please lie. Pretty please...just....lie.

Never mind. I've already done that for you. I feel better already. http://serve.mysmiley.net/cool/cool0012.gif (http://www.mysmiley.net)

Wow, I some how missed that on a first read through.... scary, scary to think that you can get harassed into having a TV. Is this common practice? I would actually like to know, it underscores how essential that particular media is to get the hypnotic message out. Scary indeed. :behindsofa:

They harrassed me to check if I had a TV, even though I contacted there head office and told the that I didnt and put it in writing, I had so many visits it was unbelievable.

sandy
2nd August 2012, 00:56
No tv since 2009>>>>>>>>>now I'm addicted to the internet , forums, alternative news sites, documentaries, radio talk shows, etc. but rationalize it as educating myself :p

RunningDeer
2nd August 2012, 01:01
I didnt have a TV for six months, I got so harrassed by the TV licence people I decided to have one again. The first thing I noticed was the manipulative adverts, and frankly a lot of the substance of TV programs was frankly awful. It is very addictive too. I now only switch it on when there is something I wish to watch, by with the internet having such a large choice, that is getting less and less.

I'm judging here: " I got so harrassed by the TV licence people I decided to have one again. "

You Whhhhhaaaattttttttt? Please, please tell me this is a joke? Even if it is not, please lie. Pretty please...just....lie.

Never mind. I've already done that for you. I feel better already. http://serve.mysmiley.net/cool/cool0012.gif (http://www.mysmiley.net)

Wow, I some how missed that on a first read through.... scary, scary to think that you can get harassed into having a TV. Is this common practice? I would actually like to know, it underscores how essential that particular media is to get the hypnotic message out. Scary indeed. :behindsofa:

They harrassed me to check if I had a TV, even though I contacted there head office and told the that I didnt and put it in writing, I had so many visits it was unbelievable.

- Boundaries are critical for scummy establishments. They feed on people that give their power away. I say, send them packing to the nearest MickyD's.http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/smiley_faces/roflmao-smiley-face.gif (http://emoticoner.com)

- If you open the door after telling them NO, that's an invitation to come knocking again and again. :moil:

- They can't take your money without your permission.

OR...have a bit of fun with it. Show them one flash card at a time. No words. Be a mime. The cards read: No, No, No, No, Can't, you, read?, No. Then take pleasure closing the door.

http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii610/WhiteCrowBlackDeer/images-2.jpg

David Trd1
2nd August 2012, 01:21
Not for quite a while.

The recent research that points to the similar brainwave state of a Person watching TV to a person in a hypnotized state is a good indicator what its used for generally,The events on it are called ''programs'',coincidence or just bad irony?
.
I find its just adverts with ''entertainment breaks'' and if its an advertisement free state run affair like the BBC in Britain its maybe 80% establishment propaganda.

I find it that whenever i do watch it somewhere i find it hilarious for its ridiculousness from Ad`s to news and generally get an entertaining time but for different reasons as is intended i think. i would mention though like bill,RT is quite a good news station as it comes close to reporting the news as is in the west although trying to get a balanced report from inside russia is prob quite hard as its pretty much an arm of russian foreign intelligence (GRU)

I am a sucker for a good documentary(or six) though,even if many are very un-comprehensive in the subject matter they tackle.

Turn if off,or in very small doses of your choosing,Its very much like poison tea.

Peace

Carmody
2nd August 2012, 01:25
Our TV has no cable, we use it to listen to music and watch movies sometimes. It has only been a year or so since we've been TV-less, persay.

Because I study and write on pop culture, I used to watch TV in order to dissect the paradigm. That included reality shows, the news, HBO series and movies. And they were and are entertaining! I'd watch the mainstream news just to see what lies were important at the moment or what the spin was, because that was indicative of what was really going on behind the scenes.

I only watch a few things now. Falling Skies, Merlin, Game of Thrones, So You Think You Can Dance, Spartacus, Fringe, X-Factor, American Idol, the Walking Dead, Survivor and whatever almost new movies are out that we might find interesting.

Now I can get all of that I want without the commercials or subliminals on the Net, more particularly, at the Pirate Bay. Haaaaaarrrrrr!!!!!

When I was 13, I had figured out that the greatest amount of effort and money was spent on advertizing design and execution for television. Thus, I spent time looking at the ads to find the cutting edge of psychological analysis and effective patterning for programming people below their conscious thinking.

as for my earlier comment of opening the door and finding the world ending and at that point knowing as much as anyone else (thus TV not needed, there will be no early warning issuing from that device)..I was reminded of this film.


The soundtrack:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpElfy6ZHjU&feature=related#movie_player

The review:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S62bs8fhE_I

the film:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_je8sgtMFw

Senso
2nd August 2012, 01:50
Hi there! I havent had a tv since april 2011. The best thing i have ever done, and by choice. You dont realise how much time we waste watching the old box. So much more to explore and learn about ourselves. Most people still are amazed that i dont have one. the internet is a definately is there if I need to look or check anything out.
enjoy your day :-)

ghostrider
2nd August 2012, 02:43
I watch the golf channel, and the weather, everything else is noise.

Carmody
2nd August 2012, 03:03
I watch the golf channel, and the weather, everything else is noise.

I used to watch golf while I was in my teens..... I'd look at all the green, sun, and water.....and shiver and whine like an expectant dog stuck in the car.

It would be winter and -40F/C outside, with blizzard winds so strong the cold breeze would come through the house.

nearing
2nd August 2012, 03:29
Been over a decade for me. I haven't even one regret.

Ron Mauer Sr
2nd August 2012, 03:47
Television was a source of irritation beginning some time prior to 1991 but the wife would not be without it. More than my spare time was spent on the computer. Hers was spent watching TV. She felt neglected so she got a boyfriend who watched TV. Wife left, so no TV in the background since 1999.

My TV is connected to my DVD player, not connected to the outside world.

And I'm still using the computer more time than I should. A little lonely, yes. But no complaints from the now ex-wife. It is nice to not be irritated by the TV.

One disadvantage of no TV is that subjects that I find interesting are not interesting to most TV watchers (most of the world). So I'm thankful to have Avalon available for some of my favorite subjects. And I'm thankful for all of you who took the red pill instead of the blue.

DouglasDanger
2nd August 2012, 04:12
Sometimes I miss the Mind numbing ability of Sitcoms and animated TV series of the70's 80's and 90's. Not having to form one Ioda of a single thought in my head... this one being my favorite! With a german version!...

NcV-SC6ha2I

music
2nd August 2012, 04:49
Been over a decade for me. I haven't even one regret.

Ditto, ditto :)

Mind control tool number 1, why should we subject ourselves to that?

Even alternative shows like X-files gives out NWO friendly messages: "the truth is out there" - really, I thought it was within. "Trust no-one". Really? How sad.

Better off without it, my kids especially.

Timreh
2nd August 2012, 06:13
Don't have one, for years now I have lost all interest in tv.
It can do to the brain what Mc Donalds can do to the body.
Just no longer fits into my life. :-)

GK76
2nd August 2012, 07:35
I stopped watching about two years ago, it's still in the corner of the room. The good news is I can't even give it away, and it isn't a bad piece of kit even after 10 years.

I still get my fix of things that I choose to watch via the WWW, there are some sci-fi programmes which pique my curiosity as to the origin of the storyline.

The news - I can happily live without all forms of 'news', there's just no telling what crap has been orchestrated to deceive, even the most weary can get caught up in their web. Although, what isn't said seems to shout very loudly these days. Sadly it's still a vital part of our struggle, I guess we should just hope that we don't get caught up.

Matisse
2nd August 2012, 11:05
I haven,t had a television for over ten years, but even then i hardly watched it, must be more than 20 years i haven,t really wathed the t.v., when i catch a glimpse of it in a cafe or somewhere public it just seems ridiculuos, it has no atraction for me.

9eagle9
2nd August 2012, 11:52
I have a tv but its not plugged into any media source. Mainstream programming is just that, but I still like to watch DVD's. Even so I don't think the thing has been on since early spring.

markpierre
2nd August 2012, 12:14
It's been a couple of years since I've even seen a TV let alone watched one. But I remember the last time I was exposed to one and realized how repugnant it was and how different I was
Daytime commercial television felt like the white noise that settles in at the brink of madness or a brain hemorrhage or something.
It's been maybe 20 years since I've owned one. I didn't consciously stop, circumstances just conspired to leave it behind. I just forgot about it.

I really don't think you'll miss it. In fact you may discover what was missing. How things look when you're not being told how they look.
It's very different.

ulli
2nd August 2012, 12:31
I watch the golf channel, and the weather, everything else is noise.

I used to watch golf while I was in my teens..... I'd look at all the green, sun, and water.....and shiver and whine like an expectant dog stuck in the car.

It would be winter and -40F/C outside, with blizzard winds so strong the cold breeze would come through the house.

After my last divorce during the mid eighties, and before having my first PC, the TV set went with my ex-husband (neither of which were a great loss) that's when the heat of Barbados drove me to go to the local library and rent books about cold weather, like the biography of Sir Edmund Hillary, and books on expeditions to the South Pole, and Himalayan summits. Those books helped me cool down when the temperature was over 30 C. I was reminded of this when I read about you watching golf in midwinter. LOL

Fred Steeves
2nd August 2012, 12:35
What better way to study propaganda and mind control programming, than to watch t.v.? As a matter of fact, I just got done studying.http://nexus.2012info.ca/forum/images/smilies/newadditions/smile.gif

blufire
2nd August 2012, 13:59
I agree with Fred’s observation. Also, I have found that I can better understand people outside the alternative media world by watching certain programs and especially (as Bill said) the cable network news programs. I still need to relate effectively on a daily basis with people who have no idea of forums and ways of thinking as here in PA.

I always find it interesting that in the alternative world that there is a subtle presumption and expectation that if you do or don’t do certain things then you are more spiritual, conscious, and aware or headed toward a higher or lower dimensional level. It was very much the same when I was in a very dogmatic legalistic church.

Maybe I am naïve’ but I would like to think that the more educated, informed and “aware” we become of all things in this world we live as a whole that we can digest and categorize more realistically and wisely and move away from rejecting and casting out ideas and thoughts because they don’t fit the current popular “mold”.







What better way to study propaganda and mind control programming, than to watch t.v.? As a matter of fact, I just got done studying.http://nexus.2012info.ca/forum/images/smilies/newadditions/smile.gif

westhill
2nd August 2012, 14:04
New meaning to idiot box.
What I finally realized that I was paying them in their efforts to program me.
So now I have an extra $840 a year. So over the span of 10 years of PAYING for cable
I gave THEM... well you do the math.

modwiz
2nd August 2012, 14:11
What better way to study propaganda and mind control programming, than to watch t.v.? As a matter of fact, I just got done studying.http://nexus.2012info.ca/forum/images/smilies/newadditions/smile.gif

Studying, eh? Master's degree or going for a Doctorate? :p

bluestflame
2nd August 2012, 14:14
i have a tv , mainly dvds , but as they say " don't throw the baby out with the bathwater"

ie is good to be selective on what you choose to watch , to keep one eye on what people are being fed , but not to use tv to fill in time out of habit cos it is by design addictive

SEAM
2nd August 2012, 14:16
I have 5, but two have been off for weeks....

moderation is key... DVR is a must have.. no commercials

(I've copied and pasted all your email addresses, and sent to my friend who owns "Used TV's R Us"):eek:

Seriously, I am totally plugged in... 10 percent of my daily content is from the net... 25 percent from books (the kind that smell, but don't glare) the rest from TV..

I've learned everything I need to know from Kindergarten, and:

How it's made: http://science.discovery.com/fansites/howitsmade/howitsmade.html
Does anyone here really know how they make a bowling ball??!

Stephen Hawkings: http://science.discovery.com/tv/hawkings-sci-fi-masters/

Through the wormhole: http://science.discovery.com/tv/through-the-wormhole/

How do they do it?: http://science.discovery.com/tv/how-do-they-do-it/how-do-they-do-it.html

Are we alone?: http://science.discovery.com/tv/are-we-alone/

An idiot abroad: http://science.discovery.com/tv/an-idiot-abroad/

Nat. Geo... Anything Discovery Channel..anything travel channel, (particularly Anthoney Bourdain)... a little Animal Planet..many food network shows... Whale Wars...Bill Maher..PBS... Palladium and Classic Rock Concerts...

Totally avoid the "Dancing with the American Idol Survivors" schtick.... and anything with the same people week after week..

Otherwise, I'd rather be fishing (pic. and release only)

Ron Mauer Sr
2nd August 2012, 16:14
Maybe I am naïve’ but I would like to think that the more educated, informed and “aware” we become of all things in this world we live as a whole that we can digest and categorize more realistically and wisely and move away from rejecting and casting out ideas and thoughts because they don’t fit the current popular “mold”.


Out-of-the-box learning can be difficult because (in my case) new information is assessed on what I think I know at that moment, which is frustratingly incomplete sometimes. The intuitive and rational parts of the mind are not always in sync, but when they are it is like experiencing a bright flash bulb. When not in sync there is vacillation. Hoping for and expecting more synchronicity as evolution continues.

NancyV
2nd August 2012, 16:40
I went through the whole NO COMMERCIAL TV fear of mind control and programming trip from 1980 up to the early 90's. I wanted my children to not have the influence of constant TV when they were very young. We had TV only to watch movies. Finally I rejected the fear I had programmed myself with to be afraid of TV. My children were more in a habit of reading or playing games so when we finally hooked up to commercial TV they only watched it occasionally, as did I.

Now I very much ENJOY recognizing the blatant attempts and catching the subtle attempts to program and control. I don't bother fearing anything anymore. I do whatever the heck I choose to do and I practice not allowing myself to be mentally controlled. It's like a game. I do turn off commercials most of the time since they are louder and most often obnoxious.

The shows I watch are most of the ones Rahkyt mentioned "Falling Skies, Merlin, Game of Thrones, So You Think You Can Dance, Spartacus, Fringe, X-Factor, American Idol, the Walking Dead" plus Supernatural, Lost Girl, NCIS, NCIS LA, and a few others. I love good science fiction and action type shows.

My mother had a theory about germs. Back when I was a child people were getting very concerned about germs and starting to be conscious about constant cleanliness. My mother felt that constant exposure to germs or pathogens would build up a natural immunity to diseases, so my sister and I got to romp around in the dirt a lot. We didn't go to doctors and rarely got sick, so maybe her theories were valid. She had a couple of masters degrees and considered herself to be somewhat of a brilliant scientific type person who was constantly experimenting with strange things.

Maybe the early programming I picked up from my mother finally kicked in and got me to the point of deciding that watching TV was inoculating myself AGAINST mind control. We are all brainwashed from the day we are born. We develop patterns and beliefs because of that brainwashing. TV is just another form of brainwashing. School and peers are about as "dangerous" or effective type programming for children as TV. If you really want to protect your children and yourself you may have to entirely withdraw from society.

I've done that. I've lived out in the middle of nowhere with no TV, large organic garden, total vegetarianism (because of being afraid of meat, animals suffering, karmic consequences, etc etc ad infinitum ad nauseum), meditating daily and OBE's daily, home schooling children. When you get that PURE you can barely deal with going into a frigging grocery store because the vibrations of the food are so gross and polluted.

I much prefer living within this world now and not fearing ANYTHING, including being polluted and controlled by TV. I reject any other beings attempts to control me, whether they are blatant or subtle attempts or light and love attempts. I recognize these tactics and I find them amusing.

I enjoy watching the state of the world and how things have changed so much since I was born. Technology is fascinating and has accelerated the battle between so called good and so called evil. It's now a great action game played out in every aspect of our lives including the Internet, TV, AND also on every lower vibrational frequency dimension when you leave your body. I have no fear of negativity in any form, be it a demonic spirit or TV. It's all part of the game we're playing here and believe it or not, it's all a part of the LOVE.

grannyfranny100
2nd August 2012, 19:58
Go for surgery tomorrow and feel panicked about having to be exposed to another person's TV addiction. It jangles my insides and shows up in my vital signs. Makes me want to light up a cigarette and expose them to my addiction. But you know who wins that battle; modern medicine is content to have mind controlled passive patients in their waiting rooms and hospital rooms. Starting in the sixties, I would watch TV every six months to determine the change in social engineering as expressed in programing and commercials. Don't even bother with that anymore.

binemaya
2nd August 2012, 20:05
hey, me,
and am happy about it! :-)
cheers,
maia:humble:

Lifebringer
2nd August 2012, 20:30
Me, I can get anything I need on the net through Netflix and have ended the cable enslavement. Whatever happened to the more we sign on the less the bill clauses when Cable first started?
They lied that's what and the bill just kept climbing. So I now pay only for net and 15 bucks for any entertainment that Netflix can supply, including series I never saw because I couldn't afford the 1370.00 annually.

50 + 15=65
x's 12 = 780 and the world is mine a year with no limits on knowledge for school.

RunningDeer
2nd August 2012, 22:35
Go for surgery tomorrow and feel panicked about having to be exposed to another person's TV addiction. It jangles my insides and shows up in my vital signs. Makes me want to light up a cigarette and expose them to my addiction. But you know who wins that battle; modern medicine is content to have mind controlled passive patients in their waiting rooms and hospital rooms. Starting in the sixties, I would watch TV every six months to determine the change in social engineering as expressed in programing and commercials. Don't even bother with that anymore.

http://www.pic4ever.com/images/computer3.gif Sending you happy, 100% natural sun rays for your stay tomorrow, grannyfranny100.:cool:

ghostrider
3rd August 2012, 03:43
I find it interesting , awake minds watch little or no tell lie vision . Sleeping masses can't go a day without it, maybe it's the tool that keeps them asleep ?

nomadguy
3rd August 2012, 05:01
I have no TV, and I suggest not having one.

huyi82
3rd August 2012, 12:44
I still have a tv but i don't use it for normal broadcasting, its only used for net browsing and movie watching, and when i watch movies it's not he typical brainwashing crap it's intelegent movies like documentries and sci fi e.t.c

CeltMan
3rd August 2012, 14:03
Been thinking of ditching the telly but,

IMO//IME- it is not the TV that is the prob, it is our ability to apply discrimination.

Personally, I mark the TV Times each week after buying it, with progs that I want to watch, or record.

I also skim through all the channels daily and record progs that I want to watch later. (about 207 channels)

There is a lot of info out there which is useful, IMO,...however- 'soaps' make me feel like retching,..but hey, that's just me.

I also use my recording box a lot, have a lot of progs, films, documentaries etc still to watch.

As I also read a lot and research on the net,... there are only so many hours in a day!

In summary, the TV is but a 'tool', and IMO should be used in that fashion.

GrnEggsNHam
3rd August 2012, 15:14
I've gone without a Television programming provider for approximately 8 years now. I have no doubt that this played a large role in my ability to begin seeing "through the veil". I probably should read the thread before theorizing here but I skimmed it lightly and didn't see anyone else doing it.

These are the following ways the signal can reach you.
USA - ATSC
Commercials? = Yes, approximately 8m per 30m block. No, with paid DVR subscription. (data collected over last 5 years)

Europe - DVB-T (C-OFDM)
Commercials? = Yes, no advanced data(from me)

Japan (Satellite?) -ISDB-T (OFDM) uses MPEG-2, I think this is what the Satellite networks use?
Commercials? = Yes, Approximately 6-7m per 30m block. (data collected over last 5 years)

China - DTMB (TDS-OFDM)
Commercials? = I will assume yes, no advanced data(from me)

Downloads - Video: MPEG-4, H.264 Audio: AAC
Commericals? = No

Now what? Do we think it's mainly the Video signals or the Audio signals affecting us? Or is it a combination of both?
Does the display technology of the device have an affect? (ie. LCD, DLP, LED, etc)
Can surround sound play a role? What about emulated SS?

These are the questions I've come up with from pondering 5m or so. Maybe there is someone on this board is who educated far more than I am on the subject of these signals and how we perceive them.

Edit: Over the last 8 years I have watched cartoons from the USA and Japan. Either because I liked them or because I was around younger family members. Over this time I have observed one absolute truth. The Japanese cartoons include morals and ethics in their story lines. The American cartoons seem to focus on violence perturbing violence with little to no message at all. Or the message is something like "be the best you can be, and step on whomever gets in your way or disagrees".

Maria Stade
3rd August 2012, 15:47
I dont have a TV !
Year 2008 was the last year I hade an TV !
And frankly I dont miss it and dont need it.
I noticed that it scrambled my energy feald and I am very sensetive to sounds.

It is also a distraction fro self and Im here to experience self so I have no time for it, my life is to pressius to throw avay on archontic devises in to illussions created by others.

centreoflight
3rd August 2012, 16:06
Don't have one since decades and I am happy for that. When I am in a hotel, I start watching TV and after I while I get nervous, because I rarely find anything I like to see to the end...

Michelle Marie
3rd August 2012, 16:13
I've gone without a Television programming provider for approximately 8 years now. I have no doubt that this played a large role in my ability to begin seeing "through the veil". I probably should read the thread before theorizing here but I skimmed it lightly and didn't see anyone else doing it.

These are the following ways the signal can reach you.
USA - ATSC
Commercials? = Yes, approximately 8m per 30m block. No, with paid DVR subscription. (data collected over last 5 years)

Europe - DVB-T (C-OFDM)
Commercials? = Yes, no advanced data(from me)

Japan (Satellite?) -ISDB-T (OFDM) uses MPEG-2, I think this is what the Satellite networks use?
Commercials? = Yes, Approximately 6-7m per 30m block. (data collected over last 5 years)

China - DTMB (TDS-OFDM)
Commercials? = I will assume yes, no advanced data(from me)

Downloads - Video: MPEG-4, H.264 Audio: AAC
Commericals? = No

Now what? Do we think it's mainly the Video signals or the Audio signals affecting us? Or is it a combination of both?
Does the display technology of the device have an affect? (ie. LCD, DLP, LED, etc)
Can surround sound play a role? What about emulated SS?

These are the questions I've come up with from pondering 5m or so. Maybe there is someone on this board is who educated far more than I am on the subject of these signals and how we perceive them.

Edit: Over the last 8 years I have watched cartoons from the USA and Japan. Either because I liked them or because I was around younger family members. Over this time I have observed one absolute truth.

The impact on the conscious and subconscious mind is not just about the signals. Values, opinions, and mindsets are imprinted. It has a major impact on the field of the mass consciousness as well as individuals. Conformity and the usurping of human energy is implemented.

There was an earlier post that reflected this--the one about asking someone what they thought and then giving the answer to what they thought!

I've encountered this "cookie cutter mindset" when talking to a being whose consciousness was imprinted. They use common terms with negative connotations to discredit and label those not in the conformed programmed opinion-set. So I was called a name with some energy behind it that indicated that I was certainly some kind of nut case.

To program the subconscious mind the two main tools are: elicit strong emotions (connect these to ideas), and repetition. Our subconscious mind controls over 80% of our brain's functions. Our programmed behaviors create our reality based on these patterns that are imprinted.

Instead of natural responses, we are walking around with conditioned behaviors that affect our relationships, circumstances (micro and macro), and environment.

I'm so glad we are having this discussion. The focus of the group intent (clear perceptions by eliminating television and its effects on our consciousness) and our discussion of sharing this awareness will illuminate this Truth and it will spread. We are ALL Waking Up...maybe at different times, but with compassion and patience and assistance we can accomplish this with ease and grace.

I appreciate all of you and this discussion. Thank you!
Michelle Marie:wizard:

Feren
3rd August 2012, 17:02
I haven't had a T.V. ffor 6 years now. And, as many others around I recommend not to have one. But everyone is different, so it is not a rule --it can't be-- of spirituality not to have a T.V.

You need to get rid of anything that stop your spiritual growth.

Recently I quit smoking, and believe me, I feel much better now.

Cheers,

Ferén

Hughe
3rd August 2012, 17:04
I've owned TVs for myself about 16 months over 40 years. Then I got rid of radio, never been a fan of mobile devices.
These are powerful psychotronic machines. Only downside not having these is being isolated with normal people.

GrnEggsNHam
3rd August 2012, 17:05
The impact on the conscious and subconscious mind is not just about the signals.

Indeed, but that is another discussion. That is one of the substance of the actual programming and my very first thread on Avalon is pointing a blatant one out. http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?47978-The-Rose&p=531015&posted=1#post531015

Here I was hoping to figure out the means by which they reach us. Because as you may know this programming has been going on prior to the invention of T.V. signals. It just so happens that this is the latest and greatest of their tools. I think lol, perhaps these Interwebs :p are actually doing something similar on the back end.


Values, opinions, and mindsets are imprinted. It has a major impact on the field of the mass consciousness as well as individuals. Conformity and the usurping of human energy is implemented.

There was an earlier post that reflected this--the one about asking someone what they thought and then giving the answer to what they thought!

I've encountered this "cookie cutter mindset" when talking to a being whose consciousness was imprinted. They use common terms with negative connotations to discredit and label those not in the conformed programmed opinion-set. So I was called a name with some energy behind it that indicated that I was certainly some kind of nut case.

To program the subconscious mind the two main tools are: elicit strong emotions (connect these to ideas), and repetition. Our subconscious mind controls over 80% of our brain's functions. Our programmed behaviors create our reality based on these patterns that are imprinted.

Instead of natural responses, we are walking around with conditioned behaviors that affect our relationships, circumstances (micro and macro), and environment.

I'm so glad we are having this discussion. The focus of the group intent (clear perceptions by eliminating television and its effects on our consciousness) and our discussion of sharing this awareness will illuminate this Truth and it will spread. We are ALL Waking Up...maybe at different times, but with compassion and patience and assistance we can accomplish this with ease and grace.

I appreciate all of you and this discussion. Thank you!
Michelle Marie:wizard:

I appreciate your thoughts nonetheless :dance:

Michelle Marie
3rd August 2012, 17:45
Congratulations for quitting smoking, Feren!! AND for feeling better!!

Michelle Marie
3rd August 2012, 18:05
Hi! GreenEggs&Ham -- I love your name!

Yes, I'm aware the programming began way before tv...even before the acquisition of the majority of the media in 1925 referred to in this poem that I wrote (adding a little smirky humor to the state of affairs!!):

Money is No Object

Your worries are over! Set your mind free
Money is no object as you will soon see

It’s just an idea, a mental construction
A belief, a perception, a false seduction

Money is printed on paper with no backing
By central bankers whose code we’re cracking

Created as debt when there’s no money there
Just another piece of paper for those unaware

Tricked to use real property for paper trade
By deceivers who mastered the power to persuade

Yes, they bought up the media in twenty-five
With intent to control everybody alive

Psychological operations of mind control
The mechanisms of Nazi patrol

Now don’t get mad, we played the game
But now it’s time for our wealth to reclaim

Intelligence was used wrongly to deceive
Bus wise are they who open to perceive.

The same intelligence can be used to outwit
Sharing abundance where all benefit

Now if money has no value outside of perception
How can we prosper after this long held deception?

Remember what is real holding true worth
Consider the resources on planet Earth

Where did they come from? How were they created?
Know this now and be liberated

God is our Source teaching us to create
With the substance of pure love that is innate

This is what’s real and of value to us
Abundance comes from inner knowing we trust

An inspired idea, a creative endeavor
An awesome solution from genius so clever

We create our own abundance of what is truly real
The underlying value no one can steal

Though money is only paper that is getting old
We’ve acquired mastery; we attract gold!

Michelle Marie Angel
March 2010

And I'm talking about Golden Wisdom here, too!

Nanoo Nanoo
3rd August 2012, 19:04
i have been sober of television for 3 years. and i dont miss it one bit. Actually when i happen to see a tv going i marvel at the arrogant display of stupidity and that someone somewhere thinks we need this stuff ? personally i find tv and advertising absolutely repugnant, almost as repugnant as a country spending millions on a sports show they call "olympics" when people on the streets of this very same country starve each night.

i don t really need to be reminded of these sad happenings in this beautiful place.

its not that i dont want to know , its just that i cant get on with changing it when im bashed into fear and submission every time i turn it on.

if it gets bad enough out there im sure someone will write me a letter. in the mean time im doing my thing.

N
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GrnEggsNHam
3rd August 2012, 19:37
Hi! GreenEggs&Ham -- I love your name!

Thank you :) I enjoy it as well. I also enjoyed your poem and feel a kindred spirit through your verse. Like minded we may be.

GaelVictor
3rd August 2012, 23:10
There are some channels, ARTE for instance, which is a combined bi-langual German-French channel, that give very good info and documentary's, critcising big corp/food/farma etc.
The rest, except for The Tour de France ofcourse, you can shut off.



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grampah
4th August 2012, 03:42
In the 80's working from an office in my home I put the TV in a closet and only opened the doors to watch ice hockey. I sold it to my son in 1987 after buying my first computer. I get up and move when I'm stuck anywhere with a TV on. Numerous times in waiting rooms at the VA I've gone to the box and turned the sound off. No one has ever complained. In recent years in a very large waiting VA waiting area I've noticed maybe 5% at most are watching it. I resented the "talking heads", "news at 11" way back in the 70's. I grew up without TV. First family one was in the fifties and it would only run for an hour at a time which was all we wanted.

sdv
4th August 2012, 09:43
Have always lived without TV and radio. Weird when I visit my sister as her lounge is dominated by a huge TV that is always on!

Doctor
4th August 2012, 10:38
My television broke a couple years ago and right away, I noticed how much better off I was. So, it hasn't been replaced, ever.

Any shows that I like, I can always stream on Netflix.

Kindred
4th August 2012, 11:05
Well... Here's a Classic Example of the Programming THEY want us to have:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?48133-Solar-Flash-wipes-out-the-worlds-Power...-Revolution

I posted what I Think of it a bit down on the first page...

What do YOU think?

In Unity, Peace and Love

westhill
4th August 2012, 11:09
Cable (cabal) losing customers...
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/08/02/paytv-idUSL2E8J29MJ20120802

WRAPUP 1-Americans drop pay-TV; business matures in weak economy
Thu Aug 2, 2012 2:06pm EDT
* DirecTV makes first customer loss of 52,000

* Time Warner Cable loses 169,000 video customers

* TWC looks to Internet for growth

By Yinka Adegoke

NEW YORK, Aug 2 (Reuters) - Stubbornly high U.S. unemployment, a weak housing market combined with a mature business prone to regular programming blackouts has seen more than 400,000 American homes drop their pay-TV service since the start of the year.

DirecTV Group, the No.1 U.S. satellite TV provider, revealed its first ever quarterly customer losses on Thursday, with some 52,000 homes dropping the service in the second quarter. That was more than analysts expected from a company long seen as the best run video provider in the industry.

Also on Thursday, Time Warner Cable Inc, the No.2 cable provider said it lost more subscribers than analysts expected with 169,000 customers leaving the service. While a small per centage of Time Warner Cable company's 12.3 million total customers, this is a 10th straight quarter of customer losses. [ID: n L4E8J22FP]

"Basic video subscriber losses aren't getting better," said Bernstein Research analyst Craig Moffett of Time Warner Cable. He said in a client note that the company had done alright overall but "it is hard to shake the perception of an opportunity lost."

The biggest U.S. TV distributor, Comcast Corp, lost 176,000 video subscribers, which was considered an improvement as the rate of losses was better than recent quarters. Of the big four distributors Dish Network Corp , the other major satellite provider, said it lost just 10,000 subscribers, also considered an improvement.

To be sure the second quarter is traditionally the weakest quarter for customer additions in the pay-TV business as people move homes ahead of the summer and students leave college campuses. Also the newer entrants to the TV market -- Verizon Communications' FiOS TV and AT&T Inc's U-verse -- added 275,000 customers during the quarter.

The numbers usually improve somewhat in the third quarter but the overall trends are ominous for traditional pay-TV distributors.

The maturity of the nearly fifty-year-old cable TV market has raised the stakes leading to more bitter and prolonged battles between distributors and their program maker partners. These disputes now typically end up with customers losing some of their favorite programming for days on end and adds to customer weariness with pay-TV.

DirecTV for example lost 17 channels from MTV and Nickelodeon parent Viacom for 10 days last month. The loss of that many high profile networks for such a long period is bound to have an impact on DirecTV's third quarter results due three months from now.

The steady parade of customer losses has led to speculation that customers are 'cutting the cord' and dropping the expense of paying for TV altogether.

Time Warner Cable Chief Executive Glenn Britt disputed this suggestion saying the numbers "are still quite small."

"We actually think a bigger issue in the market is that there is a group of customers that are in really serious financial shape, they have been out of work for a long time," said Britt.

Time Warner Cable, which added 59,000 Internet subscribers during the quarter, has been emphasizing its growth ambitions with the Internet.

"Our real opportunity for residential growth rests with our high-speed data product," said Time Warner Cable President Rob Marcus. "We have been postulating that that's the case for some time now."

The idea of cord-cutting has gathered steam as several major technology companies have held talks with program makers about putting together TV packages that will be delivered via the Internet. The idea would be to use cheaper, smaller TV packages to attract customers to buy or use their services. So far Google Inc, Intel Corp and Amazon are among those known to have held talks.

Netflix Inc is an example of one company that is already offering such services for streaming to customers on demand. Rather than see Netflix as a rival, Time Warner Cable has been promoting its Internet service as being robust enough to deliver Netflix to customers.

"That is the mindset that informs our marketing efforts," Marcus said.

sigma6
4th August 2012, 11:52
When I watch others watching TV there is something depressing to see another so zombified, knowing they are being 'programmed' ... literally sucking in so much crap...

Haven't watched TV in years ... as there is a substitute for everything on TV you can find on the internet from TV shows, local weather, news, movies, and everything the internet has that TV never will... and minus the all the commercials which are getting retarded now (like 25% of all viewing time? on a pay cable channel to boot!!??

In fact I use the internet as a filtre, if there is something so big, so important it will usually eventually show on the internet, if not already be there within the hour...

It's about absolute control over your information. If computers were easier for people to maintain, (I like to personally build to rebuild my own IBM desktops) then we could create a revolution starting right at the choice of view screen.

kanishk
6th August 2012, 09:14
laptop entertainment only ..

muxfolder
6th August 2012, 10:02
I was without tv for 6 years or so. It was after all television broadcasts here was digitalized, so everybody was forced to buy digital receiver. So back then I just decided that's enough. But I did bought a new tv just recently because it's much more useful than basic monitor, especially in a small apartment. I have my desktop computer and Blu-ray connected to it but I rarely watch any tv-broadcasts anymore. After you stop watching tv yourself you see how people are really hypnotized by it. Especially when I visit my parents, it's just so obvious though they'd never admitted it. Of course there's a very good reason why I'm not interested anymore: it's just plain awful what they show on tv these days.:)

Swan
6th August 2012, 12:58
I used to be addicted to TV. Literally wasted years of me life watching it.

Now I find it repulsive. Haven´t watched for several years.

Once in a while when I need a quick "pick me up" I´ll turn it on in the hope of finding something funny ( to be honest 2 1\2 men is my favorite...)

But usually when I flip through the channels all I find is murder, mayhem, suffering. Horrendous.

And somehow I just can´t stand the "dancing with the stars...idol...whatever". It´s as if I am just done with TV.

airaspect
6th August 2012, 13:52
Around 2 years without a TV now. No higher reasons for throwing it away either - there are just no interesting tv programs any more, and you can get info from the net.

STATIC
6th August 2012, 18:11
I still watch tv but only the stuff I enjoy and only and absolutely only commercial free which means no cable. I do most of my stuff on the pc. Spend most of my time these days working on a vineyard where there are not tv's, no internet, no phone.... So peaceful
http://i48.tinypic.com/1e2hrc.jpg

http://i49.tinypic.com/5cjcjc.jpg

Rocky_Shorz
24th September 2012, 20:06
how many think of the show Whale wars when reading this...


Officials from the Japan Coast Guard have stated that a Japanese fishing has collided with a large cargo ship in the Pacific Ocean on Monday. The accident occurred just east of northern Japan, sending the 22 members of the fishing boat crew into the sea as their boat sank. Almost half of the crew has been rescued, but 13 are still missing. At around 2:30 AM local time on Monday morning, the Horiei Maru, a 119-ton tuna-fishing boat, collided with the Nikkei Tiger, a 25,000-ton cargo ship identified as originating from Panama... link (http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/site/?pageid=event_desc&edis_id=VI-20120924-36667-OTH)

therinkydinktink
24th September 2012, 21:04
Haven't had a TV in about 4-5 years and didn't watch much before then. If there's anything I want to watch I watch online. Have a friend who sits in front of his TV all day every day and is one of the most zombified people you could ever meet, even when friends are round he has it on and on the rare occasions he ventures out he asks whoever he's visiting if he can put the TV on.

OBwan
24th September 2012, 21:17
I have a television and use it for watching videos that inspire and the times of my children’s youth. Like Bill, I keep abreast of the news using some of the website he discussed.

It has been two years since I had the cable disconnected. I can honestly say this has impacted my life in a positive way.

Metaphorically I do not stick my head in the sand. I know of the horrific things that are occuring on the earth. Before I review the news, I set the intention to know where my prayers are needed.

The Truth Is In There
26th September 2012, 11:27
i have a tv for watching dvds/blurays but don't receive tv programs since about 6 years. i enjoy spending time outside of this everyday "reality" on a regular basis and books + dvds are my favourite means to do that.

i get my news from our regional newspaper (incl. the lies and bs) and the rest from the web (mostly glp, avalon and some others). actually glp is my no.1 news source because it's usually up-to-date with pretty much any news imaginable, and because i need my daily dose of doom predictions and interactions with "doomtards" and "morans". avalon is a close second but it's more for serious discussions and less for the bare news bones or just plain bs-ing.

freespirit
26th September 2012, 12:27
Who needs a television licence?

You need a TV Licence to use any television-receiving equipment to watch or record TV programmes as they are being shown on TV. These include programmes on the BBC, ITV, Channel 4, Channel 5, cable and satellite television. Television-receiving equipment includes:

TV sets
set-top boxes
DVD recorders
video recorders
computers and laptops
mobile phones or other battery-operated devices
games consoles.

You don't need a television licence if a TV set cannot receive TV programmes and is used only:

for close circuit monitoring
for watching pre-recorded videos or DVDs
as a computer monitor
to play computer games.

You don't need a TV licence if you only ever watch catch-up services, like BBC i-Player, that let you watch programmes after they have been broadcast.

http://www.adviceguide.org.uk/wales/consumer_w/phones_tv_internet_and_computers_index_e/consumer_tips_phones_tv_internet_computers_e/about_tv_licences.htm

My plan is to sell my telly buy decent size PC monitor and a cheap computer
Then I will watch pre-recorded and catch up.
The reason I'm doing this is to finally rid my self of adverts and crappy scheduling.
My favourite channel is Discovery but I have noticed and it's the same with most of the channels.The program starts and 6 minutes in the adverts come on
Grrrrrrrrrrrrr,Grrrrrrrrrrrrr

therinkydinktink
26th September 2012, 12:32
^^^^Yeah freespirit I was going to post about this, I thought when i got the internet connected here I would need a TV license but upon checking the site you linked (and reading everything THREE times:dance:) I just declared I didn't need one. A nice chap came around about 6 weeks later and agreed with us.

Akasha
1st October 2012, 20:52
Stuck my telly on top of the garden wall for collection by whoever about 9 years ago. Best thing I ever did. My only concern is for the poor sod who walked off with it!

Realeyes
1st October 2012, 21:50
We no longer have TV transmissions since it turned digital.

I have a collection of DVD's and videos that occasionally get watched when I am in that mood to curl up under a blanket and watch an inspiring, thought provoking film. I am going through the 'Lost' complete season at the moment - I'm having great mind flips of fun.

Life without commercials is bliss!!!

And lovely evenings of silence reading a book.

On Friday's out comes the old records to play and if I am in the a jolly mood, will also have a little boogie and some glass of ruby ale. Smile.

pugwash84
1st October 2012, 22:01
I have a huge tv, I cant remember the last time I watched it though lolol. Everybody talks about the X-factor and the soaps but I never know whats going on because I think it's too boring to sit there and watch it. I have the attention span of a fish when it comes to tv lolol

GloriousPoetry
1st October 2012, 22:12
Do it ! I walked away from T.V. watching in 2005 and I don't miss it. I only rent movies now. Giving up T.V. watching is like giving up junk food except that you go on a mental diet.