Cancer: is it contagious?

[Daughter of Time]

The Cancer Research Society assures us, beyond the shadow of a doubt, that cancer is not contagious. Cancer itself may not be contagious, but most of the pathogens present in the body of a person with advanced cancer, are contagious. These pathogens include: viruses, molds, fungii, bacteria, parasites and toxins. Of these, only toxins (heavy metals, plastics, pesticides) are not contagious. The others are highly transmitable through bodily fluids.

In my studies of holistic medicine, the naturopath I studied with and learned from the most would not treat a cancer patient unless their significant other was present (if they had a significant other) so as to make them both aware of all the protocols to be observed.

This very knowdgeable and wise man would inform the couple (amongst many other things) that care, love, affection and attention were very desirable and necessary, but the exchange of bodily fluids was not for it could put the healthy person in danger of contracting the above mentioned pathogens. When this was clearly explained to the couple, both parties always understood the importance of his message.

When a person who had lost a loved one to cancer would go to him because they felt extremely run down and sickly, part of his medical advice was that they immediately start a cleansing regimen including high doses of high potency garlic (allimax/allicin) and oregano oil as these substances are highly effective at clearing whatever the person might have contracted during their intimate relationships with their spouse/lover before s/he passed away.

I know someone whose wife died of cancer. This man is feeling very unwell. He has expressed his confusion at things getting worse with the passing of time instead of getting better. Since he had remained sexually involved with his wife until close to the end, I suggested what I'd learned from the naturopath. He did not respond to my suggestion. Instead, he immediately went to the cancer research society and the oncologists who treated his wife, with obviously no success. They informed him that my advice on following a cleansing protocol was totally unnecessary and whatever information I gave him was entirely faulty because cancer is not contagious in any way, shape or form. They told him that scaremongers like me only serve in spreading misinformation and confusion on already suffering people who are grieving the death of a loved one. They told him holistic medicine is mostly quackery and he would do himself the favour to stay away from any medical advice I'd try to force on him for I am no authority on such matters as cancer since they are the experts, not I!

I had carefully explained to this man that his intimate contact with his wife would not mean that he would get cancer too, but that he might have become susceptible to a number of unseen things such as candida (very high in people with cancer) and parasites (also very high) and other invisible things, since he would probably not be aware of carrying these things in his system. I also told him that these pathogens could probably be dealt with successfully without any need for medicine, but only if the body's immune system was very strong. I also mentioned that the exhaustion, worry, grief and all the painful emotions one goes through while a loved one is dying are very powerful factors which weaken the body's natural defences.

I didn't bother to mention belief systems and other spiritually related issues such as imprints of disease we carry subconsciously since I knew they would fall on deaf ears and probably be scoffed at.

It seems that whenever I try to enlighten someone on something which is outside their frame of reference, I become persona non grata. That's OK. If I try to help and it's not appreciated, then it's not my problem.

Whatever this man chooses to do is his privilege. So this is not my concern anymore.

I know there are a number of members of this community who are very well versed in holistic medicine, with probably more certifications and higher knowledge than I have. I would appreciate knowing your well educated comments on this matter. If you have medical knowledge, whether holistic or otherwise, I would appreciate your input.

Thank you.

Daughter of Time

[Atlantean Avatar]

I have experience of what you are talking about. In late 2010 my mother in law was diagnosed with ovarian cancer. She was told that if she did nothing she would probably only have 6 years to live. Having grandchildren (the youngest being only 6 at the time) she wanted as much time with them as possible. I discussed alternate treatments with her which she agreed to. Her doctor however was very insistent that she come back to him for further advice. Within a week of the diagnosis he had her so terrified that she agreed to all the treatments.

She was in hospital within days having a hysterectomy. A week later she had radiotherapy which she complained felt like her insides had been burnt. This pain stayed with her permanently. A few weeks later she began chemo. (Up until this point she had been taking the alternative treatment I had prescribed for her). When she told her doctor that she was taking natural supplements he told her to go off of everything else because it might upset the chemo. By christmas the treatments were over and she was declared to be in remission.

In February my mother in law bumped herself in the ribs when she was erecting the annex on caravan. She went to the chiro. who said she had bruised her ribs as well as her oesophagus and other internals. She also went to her GP who said she had a touch of mouth thrush(candida), gave her some medication and sent her back to the oncologist. He did scan after scan and could find no sign of cancer. He decided that she must have a sprinkling of cancer cells somewhere that were undetectable. He had an experimental chemo drug he wanted to test and decided she was perfect for it.

She and the woman in the chair next to her had the same chemo drugs administered within minutes of each other. Within half an hour my mother in law was feeling quite ill. She was sent home but couldn't keep food down. The GP made a housecall and prescribed more drugs. Within a week she had regurgitate constantly dribbling out of her mouth. She was placed in hospital to have her next week's chemo so they could hydrate her with a drip. The oncologist was not concerned with her deteriorating health except that she might not live long enough to have her next chemo session.

BY the next week she had constant diorrea and vomiting. But thanks to the drip she was retaining fluid. Everyday that I would go to see her I would tell the nurses what was happening but the oncologist seemed to be several days behind in his observations. It took three days for him to accept that she was in renal failure. By which time she was in multi organ failure. She and the other woman died in the same hospital within minutes of each other. No nurses came when my father in law called them. She choked and drowned in her own fluids.

To add further suffering to our family the hospital called an inquest into her death with the oncologist saying that it was the teaspoon of thickened water(as prescribed) and given to her by my father in law that killed her. They let him off with a warning. My mother in law suffered and died horribly within 6 months of her diagnosis. 3days before her 70th birthday.

[Atlantean Avatar]

My father in law was ill after the death of my mother in law. He rejected the doctors and phoned me daily to give me health updates and ask for my advice. He referred to her death as unnecessary and preventable. I felt like saying that it is the medical establishments form of acceptable murder.

I would also like to add my agreement to your theory that you can suffer a disease imprint. Her mother had died of ovarian cancer years before. She worried that the cancer would be in her genes and that she would also die of this. Before her death she discussed with me that she agreed that it was likely the years of worrying and the graphic picture of the disease her mind constantly conjured that had likely caused her to get the disease and not her DNA.

After watching many people that I care about go through the fear of diagnosis to the suffering and dying through treatment. I was also afraid. I concluded that despite my many years of treating illness in myself and others through natural methods I was still felt unsure of how I would deal with the diagnosis myself. My mother has said that whilst she believes in natural health she would have the oncologists treatment out of fear. I felt that maybe I would do the same. I had my question answered when I myself was ill. The diagnosis was non hodgkins lymphoma -slow progression(doesnt respond well to chemo, radio or operations very well).

I went through the same panic briefly but then fell back on my knowledge and ability to research I found recent research from John Hopkins University (amino acid and enzyme treatment which has had a very high success rate). I was still not satisfied with the "cure". I wanted to know the cause. I reversed engineered the problem for months until I came to the BASE problem.
+ and - charges. It turns out that just about everything that is bad for us comes down to elements that have a + charge. I reasoned that the elements associated with this type of cancer (fluoride, alluminium, mercury) could and should be removed from my body and my environment as much as possible. I began chelation therapy to remove them from my body. I stopped bathing, doing dishes or consuming tap water (in South Aussie our water has been contaminated by Fluoride, aluminium etc... since 1975) also no toothpaste. Within 2 weeks all the symptoms had disappeared.

As an added bonus without fluoride the inflammation and water retention al lover my body has disappeared and I feel as good as I did when I was 18. My advice "NO FEAR"

[Tangri]

The Cancer Research Society assures us, beyond the shadow of a doubt, that cancer is not contagious. Cancer itself may not be contagious, but most of the pathogens present in the body of a person with advanced cancer, are contagious. These pathogens include: viruses, molds, fungii, bacteria, parasites and toxins. Of these, only toxins (heavy metals, plastics, pesticides) are not contagious. The others are highly transmitable through bodily fluids.

In my studies of holistic medicine, the naturopath I studied with and learned from the most would not treat a cancer patient unless their significant other was present (if they had a significant other) so as to make them both aware of all the protocols to be observed.

This very knowdgeable and wise man would inform the couple (amongst many other things) that care, love, affection and attention were very desirable and necessary, but the exchange of bodily fluids was not for it could put the healthy person in danger of contracting the above mentioned pathogens. When this was clearly explained to the couple, both parties always understood the importance of his message.

When a person who had lost a loved one to cancer would go to him because they felt extremely run down and sickly, part of his medical advice was that they immediately start a cleansing regimen including high doses of high potency garlic (allimax/allicin) and oregano oil as these substances are highly effective at clearing whatever the person might have contracted during their intimate relationships with their spouse/lover before s/he passed away.

I know someone whose wife died of cancer. This man is feeling very unwell. He has expressed his confusion at things getting worse with the passing of time instead of getting better. Since he had remained sexually involved with his wife until close to the end, I suggested what I'd learned from the naturopath. He did not respond to my suggestion. Instead, he immediately went to the cancer research society and the oncologists who treated his wife, with obviously no success. They informed him that my advice on following a cleansing protocol was totally unnecessary and whatever information I gave him was entirely faulty because cancer is not contagious in any way, shape or form. They told him that scaremongers like me only serve in spreading misinformation and confusion on already suffering people who are grieving the death of a loved one. They told him holistic medicine is mostly quackery and he would do himself the favour to stay away from any medical advice I'd try to force on him for I am no authority on such matters as cancer since they are the experts, not I!

I had carefully explained to this man that his intimate contact with his wife would not mean that he would get cancer too, but that he might have become susceptible to a number of unseen things such as candida (very high in people with cancer) and parasites (also very high) and other invisible things, since he would probably not be aware of carrying these things in his system. I also told him that these pathogens could probably be dealt with successfully without any need for medicine, but only if the body's immune system was very strong. I also mentioned that the exhaustion, worry, grief and all the painful emotions one goes through while a loved one is dying are very powerful factors which weaken the body's natural defences.

I didn't bother to mention belief systems and other spiritually related issues such as imprints of disease we carry subconsciously since I knew they would fall on deaf ears and probably be scoffed at.

It seems that whenever I try to enlighten someone on something which is outside their frame of reference, I become persona non grata. That's OK. If I try to help and it's not appreciated, then it's not my problem.

Whatever this man chooses to do is his privilege. So this is not my concern anymore.

I know there are a number of members of this community who are very well versed in holistic medicine, with probably more certifications and higher knowledge than I have. I would appreciate knowing your well educated comments on this matter. If you have medical knowledge, whether holistic or otherwise, I would appreciate your input.

Thank you.

Daughter of Time

No Cancer is not contagious but it can be triggered by in,/out site effects. It can be an accident or deliberate. It can be traceable or Untraceable !!!?.

[Lettherebelight]

Hello, Daughter of Time :)
I have studied holistic healing practices, human physiology and naturopathy.

In the Ayur Veda, it is explained that sexual intercourse should only be engaged between two healthy adults. If one or both people are sick, sex should be avoided as the body needs to direct its energies to healing and any illness could affect the other person.

If the cancer is the type caused by a fungus which has invaded other tissues, then it is possible that it could be transferred through fluids, or even the skin, our largest organ. This would be a heightened risk if the recipient had a weakened immune system. The immune system can be compromised by many factors. If one has extremely robust immunity, then perhaps one could get away with it (having sex) without being affected.

So I would agree with this concept, although this type of transference may not conform to the classic conception of 'contagious' (ie. airborn), being slower and more involved with subtle energies.

I am not surprised the Cancer Research Society has no understanding of this. :(

[Daughter of Time]

Hello, Daughter of Time :)
I have studied holistic healing practices, human physiology and naturopathy.

In the Ayur Veda, it is explained that sexual intercourse should only be engaged in between two healthy adults. If one or both people are sick, sex should be avoided as the body needs to direct its energies to healing and any illness could affect the other person.

If the cancer is the type caused by a fungus which has invaded other tissues, then it is possible that it could be transferred through fluids, or even the skin, our largest organ. This would be a heightened risk if the recipient had a weakened immune system. The immune system can be compromised by many factors. If one has extremely robust immunity, then perhaps one could get away with it (having sex)
without being affected.

So I would agree with this concept, although this type of transference may not conform to the classic conception of 'contagious', being slower and more involved with subtle energies.

I am not surprised the Cancer Research Society has no understanding of this. :(

Thank you Letterebelight,

This is exactly what I was trying to convey to the person I mentioned above, and as I've stated, it was totally ridiculed and caused a great deal of anger.

[Arrowwind]

It is my opinion that cancer is not contageous.... but many of the micro-organisms that cause cancer are contageous if one has a weak system that is susceptible to them.

There is a whole list now of cancers that are known to be caused by pathogen. ... and dark field live blood analysis is proving it out. ... also, think of the work of Royal Rife.

If one has a cancer caused by a pathogen a partner could possibly catch that pathogens but it does not mean that all pathogens will lead to cancer. It all depends on that individuals overall health and how well pathogens are controlled in the individual body's autoimmune system.

for instance, HPV can cause cervical cancer. HPV can be sexually transmitted. Not all people who get HPV will get cancer but your risks go up. Many people will pass off HPV over time without any treatment.

If you already have cancer caused by a pathogen you would want to detox that pathogen out and stay away from it for you have demonstrated a susceptibility to it. Hence that pathogen could pass back and forth , making cancer treatment more difficulty.

It is my opinion that almost all, if not all cancer has a pathogen at the center of causation. It is not the only cause. There is the pre-inclination for not managing a pathogen well and somewhere in there lies the cause of chronic disease that can develop into cancer.

Homeoapthy is great because it can remove a predispositon to a pathogen and eliminate the cancer miasma in some cases. See " The Homeopathic Treatment of Cancer" by Ramakrishnan. Also read up on the homepathic remedy called Carcinocin... which is effective in treating a percentage cancer but mostly for removing the predispositon for that miasma to take hold. Within carcinocin is a very specific cancer personality picture that is quite interesting. There are a number of remedies known for curing cancer in homeopathy. The above mentioned book is quite revealing. I have had good success in treating an advanced basel cell carcinoma case with homeopathy with the Ramankrishnan method. If I had cancer Id be all over those remedies..

[RMorgan]

Hi my friend,

There´s definitively something very mysterious regarding all diseases.

I really don´t know if cancer is contagious, I mean, physiologically contagious, but diseases aren´t all about our physical bodies.

You know, when I was about 15, I had appendicitis and had to be operated.

Exactly one week after my recovery from the surgery, my older sister, who was about 21, also was diagnosed with appendicitis and had to be operated as well.

In this case, I think she was jealous about all attention and special care I was receiving from my family, and her subconscious actually produced the disease, or at least the symptoms of it, in order to receive special attention as well. Unfortunately, she´s always been a jealous and "needy" person.

Isn´t it weird?

Cheers,

Raf

[WhiteFeather]

IMO.....The triggers to cancer involve a person whom has had a tragic experience (loss). For Ex: Losing a loved one from death. Loss of a relationship. A death in the family. A tragic event in ones life. A financial crisis, etc. What occurs in these aforementioned examples, can actually effect the vibrations of ones self...if you will. Stress and Negativity can take its toll and cause/create cancer from these lower vibrational frequencies. I have known several people in different familys that fit this common denominator. Can this be a Coincidence?

From your post above used as an example: " I know someone whose wife died of cancer. This man is feeling very unwell. He has expressed his confusion at things getting worse with the passing of time instead of getting better." Coincidence? Did you ever hear of an older couple that has been happily married for a long while, then had lost a spouse to death and in the next several months the other partner dies of a broken heart. Coincidence?

One of the Avalon forum members spoke of this topic of stress and cancer awhile back on a post. I couldnt understand it. Now I do.

Vibration and Frequency is to be considered here.

I hope I made sense of my words here. Perhaps it could be confusing.

My Opinion on Cancer!


Please Read This : Dr. Hamer, a German oncologist, developed cancer in the late 70s, shortly after his son's untimely death. Theorizing there was a connection between stress and cancer after the stress of his son's death was followed by his development of cancer, he began to investigate his cancer patients' histories, and found that they too had experienced an unexpected shock or trauma shortly before their cancer.

More Here: http://www.cancerfightingstrategies.com/stress-and-cancer.html


Dr. Hans Selye,"the father of stress" was an endocrinologist in 1950's who did research on the response of organisms to stress. He determined that stress is the underlying cause of all illness and dis-ease. His research was taken a step further by Dr. Herbert Benson.
Some Good Therapy Techniques: Tibetan Singing Bowls Sound Therapy. Check this out!
http://www.soundmindhealing.com/services/tibetan_singing_bowls/

[Kimberley]

I do not think cancer is physically contagious, however it can certainly be mind contagious... (belief contagious).

I have two suggestions : plz read "The Biology of belief" By Bruce Lipton and /or google Bruce Lipton and listen to his many available lectures and interviews. http://www.brucelipton.com/

Second google Anita Moorjani and listen to her many interviews and read her book, "Dying To Be Me"... http://anitamoorjani.com

I have interviewed both of them and their knowledge and information is fabulous!!!

Much love to you!!! :hug:

[Daughter of Time]

I do not think cancer is physically contagious, however it can certainly be mind contagious... (belief contagious).

I have two suggestions : plz read "The Biology of belief" By Bruce Lipton and /or google Bruce Lipton and listen to his many available lectures and interviews. http://www.brucelipton.com/

Second google Anita Moorjani and listen to her many interviews and read her book, "Dying To Be Me"... http://anitamoorjani.com

I have interviewed both of them and their knowledge and information is fabulous!!!

Much love to you!!! :hug:

Thank you for your input Kimberley.

I have read Bruce Lipton's "The Biology of Belief". It's a great read.

Thanks for your love too. xo

[cloud9]

IMO.....The triggers to cancer involve a person whom has had a tragic experience (loss). For Ex: Losing a loved one from death. Loss of a relationship. A death in the family. A tragic event in ones life. A financial crisis, etc. What occurs in these aforementioned examples, can actually effect the vibrations of ones self...if you will. Stress and Negativity can take its toll and cause/create cancer from these lower vibrational frequencies. I have known several people in different familys that fit this common denominator. Can this be a Coincidence?

From your post above used as an example: " I know someone whose wife died of cancer. This man is feeling very unwell. He has expressed his confusion at things getting worse with the passing of time instead of getting better." Coincidence? Did you ever hear of an older couple that has been happily married for a long while, then had lost a spouse to death and in the next several months the other partner dies of a broken heart. Coincidence?

One of the Avalon forum members spoke of this topic of stress and cancer awhile back on a post. I couldnt understand it. Now I do.

Vibration and Frequency is to be considered here.

I hope I made sense of my words here. Perhaps it could be confusing.

My Opinion on Cancer!


Please Read This : Dr. Hamer, a German oncologist, developed cancer in the late 70s, shortly after his son's untimely death. Theorizing there was a connection between stress and cancer after the stress of his son's death was followed by his development of cancer, he began to investigate his cancer patients' histories, and found that they too had experienced an unexpected shock or trauma shortly before their cancer.

More Here: http://www.cancerfightingstrategies.com/stress-and-cancer.html


Dr. Hans Selye,"the father of stress" was an endocrinologist in 1950's who did research on the response of organisms to stress. He determined that stress is the underlying cause of all illness and dis-ease. His research was taken a step further by Dr. Herbert Benson.
Some Good Therapy Techniques: Tibetan Singing Bowls Sound Therapy. Check this out!
http://www.soundmindhealing.com/services/tibetan_singing_bowls/

It would be great if more people knew more about Dr. Hammer's research. To his credit, he's been 100% correct on all his diagnosis which would be impossible for any other doctor about the causes of cancer on all his patients.

[Kimberley]

And I want to add Jim Humble and MMS as a cancer cure... many threads here on Avalon about Jim Humble and here is his web site.. http://jimhumble.biz/

And I want to add to you cloud9 and others... that a diagnosis can be a killer in the mind belief zone... that is why I do not any longer go to western medical doctors.... I do not want ANY diagnoses.... diagnoses can be your demise if you believe them! So I do not ask for them and therefore do not even have to think about them!!

I expect to live long and prosper! I expect to do the time I signed up to do... If that means I will pass on tomorrow so it is... I KNOW that I signed up for this life on earth experience and will pass on when I signed up to pass on (or not pass on if ascension takes place where we get to move into light bodies and not die a physical death)

However I know for sure that we all signed up for our life path before we incarnated on planet earth and when it is our time to depart (in any way shape or fashion) we will depart right on time!!!

Although I have no fear if I am still to experience a physical death..that has been happening to planet earth "humans" for thousands of years and if I am to experience that so be it...I do know that my spirit, soul, essence, is eternal and so I have no fear in dieing a physical death...

However I also know I agreed to be here now and am grateful for all that is and all I experience here and now...and how fun it is to be here now and witness all that is taking place ... Whooo Hooo what a ride!!!

Therefore my new avatar explains who I have come to understand I am!!!! I am Love... I am fun!... I am infinite!!!! ECT!!!... And so are YOU!!!!

Much love !!! :grouphug:

[Daughter of Time]

And I want to add Jim Humble and MMS as a cancer cure... many threads here on Avalon about Jim Humble and here is his web site.. http://jimhumble.biz/

Thank you Kimberly,

I'm very acquainted with Jim Humble's MMS cure. I've never had cancer (knock on wood!) but I did an MMS cleanse for detoxifications purposes. It tastes like bleach, but I don't mind that. And it certainly is a powerful destroyer of molds, fungii, bacteria, parasites, and probably even viruses. Although i am very well acquainted with your suggestions, there may be visitors who might benefit from this information and I thank you for posting it.

[cloud9]

And I want to add Jim Humble and MMS as a cancer cure... many threads here on Avalon about Jim Humble and here is his web site.. http://jimhumble.biz/

And I want to add to you cloud9 and others... that a diagnosis can be a killer in the mind belief zone... that is why I do not any longer go to western medical doctors.... I do not want ANY diagnoses.... diagnoses can be your demise if you believe them! So I do not ask for them and therefore do not even have to think about them!!

I expect to live long and prosper! I expect to do the time I signed up to do... If that means I will pass on tomorrow so it is... I KNOW that I signed up for this life on earth experience and will pass on when I signed up to pass on (or not pass on if ascension takes place where we get to move into light bodies and not die a physical death)

However I know for sure that we all signed up for our life path before we incarnated on planet earth and when it is our time to depart (in any way shape or fashion) we will depart right on time!!!

Although I have no fear if I am still to experience a physical death..that has been happening to planet earth "humans" for thousands of years and if I am to experience that so be it...I do know that my spirit, soul, essence, is eternal and so I have no fear in dieing a physical death...

However I also know I agreed to be here now and am grateful for all that is and all I experience here and now...and how fun it is to be here now and witness all that is taking place ... Whooo Hooo what a ride!!!

Therefore my new avatar explains who I have come to understand I am!!!! I am Love... I am fun!... I am infinite!!!! ECT!!!... And so are YOU!!!!

Much love !!! :grouphug:

Kimberly,
one of the biggest achievements of Dr. Hammer was his map or chart of the brain (through scans) where he could detect the organ affected by the emotion and many times he would know even before the cancer was present in the organs. There's a reason why this is possible and it's due to the holographic nature of the body, he has cured thousands of people after explaining to them the impact that emotions have in the body.
He also believes that when cancer is present is because the body is already healing itself and leaving it alone it's not fatal; the problem is when regular doctors see a tumor and they immediately want to get rid of it through surgery not allowing the body to do its healing work. Anyway, I'm not an expert but I've read about this a lot and right now I'm researching a new methodology called biodescodificacion (in Spanish as it comes from a Spanish psychologist) which is based on the hologram model.

[The Truth Is In There]

i agree with arrowwind's post, and i also agree with what louis pasteur allegedly said on his death bed - "the germ is nothing, the terrain is everything".

since people who live together usually are exposed to the same toxins and pathogens it makes sense that these people are more susceptible to the same cancers. that doesn't mean that cancer itself is contagious but the terrain may be similar and thus support the same type of cancer or, if the genetic predisposition is different, a different form of cancer or another disease caused by the same toxins or pathogens.

a healthy person, on the other hand, will not catch the disease as long as the body remains in a healthy state. a strong immune system will not allow pathogens to take hold and should also be able to detoxify harmful substances in a manner that prevents accumulation to harmful (cancer-causing) levels.

[christian]

To cut it short: Cancer is a vibrational frequency and is just as contagious as fear, hope or anything else. And of course there are ways to boost your vibrational immune system such as meditation and anchoring or tuning into higher frequencies.

For your consideration:





http://justalist.blogspot.pt/2008/03/vibrational-frequency-list.html

In 1992, Bruce Tainio of Tainio Technology, an independent division of Eastern State University in Cheny, Washington, built the first frequency monitor in the world. Tainio has determined that the average frequency of the human body during the daytime is 62-68 Hz. A healthy body frequency is 62-72 Hz . When the frequency drops, the immune system is compromised. Check out these very interesting findings:

Human Body:
Genius Brain Frequency 80-82 MHz
Brain Frequency Range 72-90 MHz
Normal Brain Frequency 72 MHz
Human Body 62-78 MHz
Human Body: from Neck up 72-78 MHz
Human Body: from Neck down 60-68 MHz Thyroid and Parathyroid glands are 62-68 MHz
Thymus Gland is 65-68 MHz
Heart is 67-70 MHz
Lungs are 58-65 MHz
Liver is 55-60 MHz
Pancreas is 60-80 MHz

Colds and Flu start at: 57-60 MHz
Disease starts at: 58 MHz
Candida overgrowth starts at: 55 MHz
Receptive to Epstein Barr at: 52 MHz
Receptive to Cancer at: 42 MHz
Death begins at: 25 MHz

This is from David Hawkins, author of Power vs. Force (www.twtebook.com/pdf/twitebook18.pdf):

http://learningfromdogs.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/mapofconsciousness.gif

[Koyaanisqatsi]

recent studies show that it is contagious, and actually having read this thread will have increased your chances. Thanks TS

[nearing]

i agree with arrowwind's post, and i also agree with what louis pasteur allegedly said on his death bed - "the germ is nothing, the terrain is everything".

since people who live together usually are exposed to the same toxins and pathogens it makes sense that these people are more susceptible to the same cancers. that doesn't mean that cancer itself is contagious but the terrain may be similar and thus support the same type of cancer or, if the genetic predisposition is different, a different form of cancer or another disease caused by the same toxins or pathogens.

a healthy person, on the other hand, will not catch the disease as long as the body remains in a healthy state. a strong immune system will not allow pathogens to take hold and should also be able to detoxify harmful substances in a manner that prevents accumulation to harmful (cancer-causing) levels.

This is my take on the situation as well.

[Daughter of Time]

recent studies show that it is contagious, and actually having read this thread will have increased your chances. Thanks TS

Are you being facetious Koyaanisqatsi?

[Arrowwind]

recent studies show that it is contagious, and actually having read this thread will have increased your chances. Thanks TS

Are you being facetious Koyaanisqatsi?

I would hope so... elsewise the whole world is doomed to cancer for it is discussed and studied and reported on without end.

I do not believe that thinking about something like this will cause it or even draw it to you. The causes are multifolded, and certainly our level of stress contributes as well as any mindset or lifestyle that drags down the autoimmune system function.

[The Truth Is In There]

To cut it short: Cancer is a vibrational frequency and is just as contagious as fear, hope or anything else. And of course there are ways to boost your vibrational immune system such as meditation and anchoring or tuning into higher frequencies.

For your consideration:





http://justalist.blogspot.pt/2008/03/vibrational-frequency-list.html

In 1992, Bruce Tainio of Tainio Technology, an independent division of Eastern State University in Cheny, Washington, built the first frequency monitor in the world. Tainio has determined that the average frequency of the human body during the daytime is 62-68 Hz. A healthy body frequency is 62-72 Hz . When the frequency drops, the immune system is compromised. Check out these very interesting findings:

Human Body:
Genius Brain Frequency 80-82 MHz
Brain Frequency Range 72-90 MHz
Normal Brain Frequency 72 MHz
Human Body 62-78 MHz
Human Body: from Neck up 72-78 MHz
Human Body: from Neck down 60-68 MHz Thyroid and Parathyroid glands are 62-68 MHz
Thymus Gland is 65-68 MHz
Heart is 67-70 MHz
Lungs are 58-65 MHz
Liver is 55-60 MHz
Pancreas is 60-80 MHz

Colds and Flu start at: 57-60 MHz
Disease starts at: 58 MHz
Candida overgrowth starts at: 55 MHz
Receptive to Epstein Barr at: 52 MHz
Receptive to Cancer at: 42 MHz
Death begins at: 25 MHz

This is from David Hawkins, author of Power vs. Force (www.twtebook.com/pdf/twitebook18.pdf):

http://learningfromdogs.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/mapofconsciousness.gif

here's a tip for people who want to make use of this information and influence their body frequency in a beneficial way - start using essential oils, not just in your rooms but also on your body (e.g. instead of deodorants which contain aluminum and lots of other harmful ingredients and have a low frequency). for problems with certain glands or organs use the essential oils that have a matching frequency, for overall health use any kind of oil you like. all of them have a frequency raising effect as long as they're natural (and ideally organic). many can and should be ingested or put on the skin (mixed with oil, for instance) but some are toxic and can only be used for their fragrance and vibration.

[Daughter of Time]

Perhaps I misphrased the title here. Perhaps the title should be: Are cancer pathogens contagious?

Lettherebelight agrees that if the cancer is caused by fungii then the fungii are definitely contractable to one with lower immunity.

Arrowwind agrees that cancer itself is not contagious but microorganisms that cause cancer are transmitable.

These are basically the answers I was looking for.

Thank you Arrowwind and Lettherebelight for your knowledgeable input.

[witchy1]

Hi Daughter of Time - at least they are acknowledging the fact that bugs / virus cause cancer: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?45657-Bacteria-viruses-and-parasites-cause-1.5million-cancer-deaths-each-year

"Key cancer causing infectious agents include human papillomavirus (HPV), the gastric bug helicobacter pylori and the Hepatitis B (HBV) & C viruses"

Also not forgetting that cancer is always initally a disease of the epithelial tissue so an adequate intake of Vit A is vital.


I also agree with the others, yes the bugs are communicable if the immune system is deficient. The same as "catching" colds and flu - they dont get everyone.

There are studies done (google scholar) that show where they are unable to form cancer in some animals, where in others it takes hold using the exact same mechanism. (chemicals or injecting live tumor cells, or pathogens ) This can only be a natural defense mechanisms at work.

(As a FYI - I dont support animal testing at all in any way shape or form)

[Finefeather]

According to my understanding of the body, cancer is a disease of inhibition.
The kundalini/evolutionary energies which flow through our body, from the etheric/energy body through the nerves is been restricted so it causes abnormal tissue growth.
It is like an electrical circuit which for some reason has too much resistance at some point and the result is you have an electrical failure because the circuit is destroyed.
Many things can cause this restriction or inhibition in the body, like:
Stuff you eat or drink which is bad for you.
Contact with pathogens and parasites that can cause tissue congestion and disease.
Some radiations, like sound and light etc with frequencies which we are not able to balance.
Emotional blockages are by far the biggest cause as it slows down the vibrations which you can see in christian's (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?p=531916#post531916) post.

We know from many reports that people have cured themselves of cancer by spiritual practice, right thoughts, emotional balance and a happier outlook.
The most interesting thing about cancer and emotion is that you can diagnose the problem by realising that each chakra serves and feeds specific areas in the body.
As an example, if a woman has cancer (or problems), of the ovaries or cervix or in the area of the gonads, it is more than likely that the person's sex life is out of balance due to frustration, maybe, or some other sexually related problem.

[Daughter of Time]

To cut it short: Cancer is a vibrational frequency and is just as contagious as fear, hope or anything else. And of course there are ways to boost your vibrational immune system such as meditation and anchoring or tuning into higher frequencies.

For your consideration:





http://justalist.blogspot.pt/2008/03/vibrational-frequency-list.html

In 1992, Bruce Tainio of Tainio Technology, an independent division of Eastern State University in Cheny, Washington, built the first frequency monitor in the world. Tainio has determined that the average frequency of the human body during the daytime is 62-68 Hz. A healthy body frequency is 62-72 Hz . When the frequency drops, the immune system is compromised. Check out these very interesting findings:

Human Body:
Genius Brain Frequency 80-82 MHz
Brain Frequency Range 72-90 MHz
Normal Brain Frequency 72 MHz
Human Body 62-78 MHz
Human Body: from Neck up 72-78 MHz
Human Body: from Neck down 60-68 MHz Thyroid and Parathyroid glands are 62-68 MHz
Thymus Gland is 65-68 MHz
Heart is 67-70 MHz
Lungs are 58-65 MHz
Liver is 55-60 MHz
Pancreas is 60-80 MHz

Colds and Flu start at: 57-60 MHz
Disease starts at: 58 MHz
Candida overgrowth starts at: 55 MHz
Receptive to Epstein Barr at: 52 MHz
Receptive to Cancer at: 42 MHz
Death begins at: 25 MHz

This is from David Hawkins, author of Power vs. Force (www.twtebook.com/pdf/twitebook18.pdf):

http://learningfromdogs.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/mapofconsciousness.gif

Thank you Christian, for this very valuable information.

[Chester]

To cut it short: Cancer is a vibrational frequency and is just as contagious as fear, hope or anything else. And of course there are ways to boost your vibrational immune system such as meditation and anchoring or tuning into higher frequencies.

For your consideration:





http://justalist.blogspot.pt/2008/03/vibrational-frequency-list.html

In 1992, Bruce Tainio of Tainio Technology, an independent division of Eastern State University in Cheny, Washington, built the first frequency monitor in the world. Tainio has determined that the average frequency of the human body during the daytime is 62-68 Hz. A healthy body frequency is 62-72 Hz . When the frequency drops, the immune system is compromised. Check out these very interesting findings:

Human Body:
Genius Brain Frequency 80-82 MHz
Brain Frequency Range 72-90 MHz
Normal Brain Frequency 72 MHz
Human Body 62-78 MHz
Human Body: from Neck up 72-78 MHz
Human Body: from Neck down 60-68 MHz Thyroid and Parathyroid glands are 62-68 MHz
Thymus Gland is 65-68 MHz
Heart is 67-70 MHz
Lungs are 58-65 MHz
Liver is 55-60 MHz
Pancreas is 60-80 MHz

Colds and Flu start at: 57-60 MHz
Disease starts at: 58 MHz
Candida overgrowth starts at: 55 MHz
Receptive to Epstein Barr at: 52 MHz
Receptive to Cancer at: 42 MHz
Death begins at: 25 MHz

This is from David Hawkins, author of Power vs. Force (www.twtebook.com/pdf/twitebook18.pdf):

http://learningfromdogs.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/mapofconsciousness.gif

What an outstanding post from an outstanding member - Thanks, Christian... justone

[Arrowwind]

Absolutley, frequency has everything to do with it. Study the life and work of Rife. He cured cancer by changing the frequencies in the body, which in effect impinged upon cancer causing microbes, killing them and hence curing the cancer. In one study done in the Rife lab, 17 cancer patients were treated with frequency. All were cured. The directed aim was to kill the disease causing microbes that Rife saw with his powerful microscope.

Rife believed and witnessed polymorphism under the microscope. That is where one microbe actually transforms into another microbe, even a virus to a bacteria and back to a virus or possibly fungus. The terrain has everything to do with disease and ones ability to create or distroy it. If the immune system is run down a disease can flourish either from microbe that reside naturally inside the body or new microbes that impinge from the outside, as in contageous disease. Medication and working with the chakras etc will have a beneficial effect, but it is not the only way to curb disease in the body. It is just one of many. Ever notice that some very highly distressed and dysfunctinal people never get sick? Ever notice that some who practice meditation etc get sick frequently? or at least occassionally? It is a very complex issue.

Changing the frequency of the energy field of the body is what Homeoapthy is all about and it is why it is one of the few medical sciences that actually can cure disease.