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Dr. Walker was born in England in 1910. He received is B.S. in Engineering in 1932, his M.B.A. in 1933, and his D.Sc. in 1935 - all from Harvard University in Cambridge, Massachusetts.
Dr. Walker taught mathematics and electrical Engineering, for two years, and became chairman of the Dep't of Electrical Engineering at Tufts College (now Tufts University). It was here that Dr. Walker met Dr. Vannevar Bush who had also been the head of the EE Dep't. at Tufts.
Walker also taught mathematics and electrical Engineering at the University of Connecticut, where Walker initiated courses for a special War Training Program.
Once the Americans had entered World War 11, Walker joined the Underwater Sound Laboratory at Harvard University. He was promoted to Assistant Director, and then to Associate Director. Working for Dr. Vannevar Bush's Office of Scientific Research and Development. Dr. Walker found himself in charge of ordnance ( specifically weapons).
Dr. Walker was instrumental in the development of sonar. Dr. Walker had studied the industrial use of acoustics. His studies were applied to the " homing torpedo", which was developed at the Underwater Sound Lab and was successfully used against Axis submarines. For his work, Dr. Walker was awarded the Naval Ordnance Award, and also a Presidential Certificate of Merit.
In 1944, Walker was a civilian employee of the Office of Scientific Research and Development. In 1945, Walker was persuaded by the Dean of Engineering at Penn State to come there and fill a position as Department Head of the Electrical Engineering Dep't.
Interestingly enough, the ordnance section of the Harvard Underwater Sound Laboratory was transferred to Penn State at the same time. It became the Ordnance Research Laboratory, one of the four major Navy Research Laboratories. Dr. Walker was the Director.
In 1951 Dr Walker became Dean of the Dep't of Engineering and Architecture at Penn State, and directed the construction of a research reactor ( Bereazeale Reactor) on the Penn State University Park campus.
In 1956, the then president’s brother, Dr. Milton Eisenhower, named Dr. Walker as Vice president and then President of Penn State to succeed himself. Dr. Eisenhower moved to run John Hopkins.
In addition to his earned degrees., Dr Walker had honorary Doctorates from the following Universities - Temple,Lehigh, Hafstra, Lafayette, the University of Penn, The University of Rhode Island, Elizabethtown College, Jefferson Medical College, Wayne State University, the Univ. of Notre Dame, and the university of Pittsburgh.
Dr. Walker wrote two prize papers for the American Institute of Electrical Engineering, and co-invented the coliolithophone ( a device used for theacoustical detection of gallstones.)
Dr. Walkers awards include, the Navy Distiquished public Service Metal; the American Legion Distinquished Service Award; Fellow, Institute of Radio Engineers; Fellow, Royal Society of Arts (London); Fellow, American Physical Society; Fellow, American Acoustical Society; Horatio Alger Award; Tasker H. Bliss Award of the American Society of Military Engineers; the Golden Omega Award of the Electrical Insulation Industry; the Lamme Award - and an Honorary membership - from the American Society of Electrical Education; the White House Citation from President Nixon; and the Dept of Defense Distinguished Public Service Medal.
Dr. Walker's professional nominations include member of the us Army's Scientific Advisory Panel, Chairman of the Navy Research Advisory Committee,Vice Chairman of the Presidents Committee for Scientists and Engineers, member ( and former Chairman) of the National Research Council's Committee on Undersea Warfare.
Dr. Walker was Executive Director ( and therefore chief administrator) of the Research and Development Board, from 1950 to 1951. This is the same time as the Sarbacher/ Smith conversation. It should be noted that Vannevar Bush was not the Director of the Research and Development Board at this time. He had resigned as director a few years earlier in a disagreement with Truman. There were a number of directors for this period. During the interlude between directors, and when the director was not available, Dr. Walker served as the acting Director.
Dr Walker was chairman of the National Science Foundation Committee for Engineering, Chairman of the Engineering College Research Foundation, President of the Engineers Joint Council. He was appointed in 1957 by President Dwight Eisenhower as General Chairman of the Conference on Technical and Distribution Research for the Benefit of Small Businesses, member of the Board of Visitorsof the United States Naval Academy, Board of Visitors to the US Military Academy, President of the Penn. Association of Colleges and Universities, member of the Advisory Committee on Higher Education, member of the Commission on Higher Education of the Middle states association of Colleges and Universities, Vice President and President of the American Association of Engineering Education, founding member and President of the American Academy of Engineering, President of the Commonwealth Industrial Research Corporation, Chairman of the National Science Board, advisor on engineering and technicalmanpower Pres. Sci. Advisory Committee.
Walker was a member of the Board of the Engineering Foundation, the Board of Trustees of the Science Service, the Board of Directors of the Mid-State Bank and Trust Company. Dr. Walker was Vice President of Science and Technology for Aluminum Co. America. He was on the Board of Directors of Girand Trust Company, and the Board of Directors of Westinghouse Brake Company. He was chairman of the Board of Directors of Melpar Corporation as well as Consultant of Research and Engineering to Koppers Corp, Borg-Warner Corporation, Bendix Aviation Co, Hughes Aircraft Corp, IBM Corp, and other firms.
Walker served as a member of the Institute for Defense Analysis from 1958 to 1981 when he became Chairman of the Board. In 1986 he became Chairman Emeritus and remained in that position until his death. The Institute for Defense Analysis (IDA) is known as " the think tank to the highest echelons of the Pentagon " and "the principal advisory organization serving the office of the Secretary of Defense as a whole."
90% of the work done by IDA is TOP SECRET, the other 10% is for OFFICIAL EYES ONLY.
This organization spawned off a group from within known as DARPA, or the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency. DARPA was responsible for " the scientific investigation into advanced technologies of the future." DARPA is responsible for the initial research funding for over the horizon radar, the Stealth Technology, and the Internet. ( The internet was begun as a way to make all military computers independent and yet able to communicate with each other even in the event of a nuclear war. There is no central computer to knock out)
Dr. Walker initiated the Conference on the Administration of Research in1947.
He published numerous articles in various periodicals and professional journals and co-authored a book entitled The Physical Basis of Electrical Engineering.
Dr. Walker wrote a column for the Center Daily Times of State College, Penn and in the early 1970s, directed a nationwide study for the ASEE on the " Goals of Engineering Education." In 1989 Dr. Walker published his autobiography " Now Its My Turn: Engineering My Way."
Dr. Walker maintained an office at Penn State University and went there almost every day until his death. He died at home Feb. 17, 1995.
I filed FOIA request for his government records. I obtained his FBI file the Office of Federal Investigations, and a file from the then Defense Investigative Service. I also obtained documents from the Eisenhower Presidential Library. I can confirm also during the early 1970s Dr Walker did some work for the National Security Agency.
THE CONVERSATIONS
January 26, 1990 Interview Henry Victorian and Dr. Eric Walker
Dr. Robert Sarbacher identified Dr. Eric Walker as one of a group who attended a briefing on the military recovery of a downed flying saucer, and the bodies of the crew within. Posted here is a conversation between Dr. Armen Azadehdel, (using his English name Henry Victorian) a physicist from Nottingham England, and Dr. Eric Walker. Phone conversation January 26,90
Mrs. Walker: Hello?
Azadehdel: Hello, good morning ma'am. Is Dr. Walker in?
Mrs. Walker: No, he is not. He is out.
Azadehdel: That is fine. I am calling long distance. Do you know when he will be back?
Mrs. Walker: Well. I am sure that he is playing tennis. Oh, here he comes now. He is driving in. Just hold on. He will be here.
Dr. Walker: Hello?
Azadehdel: Dr. Walker?
Dr. Walker: Yeah.
Azadehdel: Very good morning to you. This is Dr. Victorian from Nottingham. ( Dr. Azadehdel is using the name Dr. Victorian )
Dr. Walker: Well, how are you?
Azadehdel: Not bad, thank-you, and you?
Dr. Walker: Pretty good.
Azadehdel: Doctor, I was in the Long Eaton Library ( Dr. Walker was born in England) I was talking to the librarian there, and I mentioned that there is a gentleman who was born here. Doctor, is there anything you have written that I can ask you to send us in order to leave in the library in Long Eaton? Dr. Walker I have written an autobiography, and it was published about three months ago, and I had a friend who took several copies over to England he wanted to leave in various places. It is called " Now it's my Turn."
Azadehdel: Doctor, would it be possible if I ask you to send a copy auto- graphed by you specifically for the Long Eaton Library?
Dr. Walker: Yes. I think so. Give me an address.
Azadehdel: You have my address.
Dr. Walker: Not here, no.
Azadehdel: I'll give it to you. ( I started giving my address again to him spelling the name of the street I live in. Then when I wanted to spell the name of the area that I live in, he interrupted me and said " I know where Aspley Park is." Then after giving him my address, I said " Doctor - did you get my second letter?
Dr. Walker: No I have not. See, I am not in Pennsylvania, so my mail piles up till I get back.
Azadehdel: Yes. I have replied to your first letter. I don't know the gentleman you have mentioned ( referring to Bill Steinman ) As a matter of fact, I have no contact with anybody else at all. I have been working alone on this project.
Dr. Walker: Well, the man has a network with all the people interested in this, and he tries to keep all the information in one place.
Azadehdel: To be honest with you, I'd rather not contact these people at all. I'd rather keep to myself.
Dr. Walker: Yep
Azadehdel: There are five photos available about the case I mentioned to you. ( Henry is referring to the crash of a UFO in Bolivia that he attended while searching for orchids in the late 1970s)
Dr. Walker: Yep
Azadehdel: But the entities photographed are all insect like.
Dr. Walker: Aha
Azadehdel: They were very light.
Dr. Walker: Do they have antennae?
Azadehdel: No. The skin was pale. Extremely large eyes. Three on the river side, two inside. I had a German friend with me. Do you have any interest in Botany?
Dr. Walker: No, not that I can get at.
Azadehdel: ( I explained the circumstances < whereby we had been led> to take the photographs to him)
Dr. Walker: No ears. How many eyes?
Azadehdel: Two eyes.
Dr. Walker: Big eyes?
Azadehdel: Yes. Big eyes. Extremely large eyes. Especially their forehead was very large. Their arms and hands were very thin. The same thickness of my five year old son's.
Dr. Walker: I say, I have no resources at all, no friends for these things where I am now.
Azadehdel: But, Doctor, have we captured anything at all. We must have.
Dr. Walker: SURE
Azadehdel: Anything, did we learn anything?
Dr. Walker: Yeah. I think so.
Azadehdel: Doctor would it be possible if you could help me with this?
Dr Walker: You know, you can contact Crain.
Adadedel: Who is Crain?
Dr Walker: The guy I wrote you about. The man I told you about...( He had not mentioned Crain's name in the letter to me. My guess is that he was throwing the name to see if I knew him or would give the game away. Or maybe there is a letter in the post to me in which he has mentioned Crain's name. However, I told him the truth that according to our correspondence to date I do not know Crain)
Azadehdel: in the letter there was something about a Mr. Sti...Steenman?
Dr Walker: Steinman. He and Crain work together. (He gave the name of Steinman's home town to me.)
Azadehdel: Well, I really try to keep out of them. With due respect, you are a scientist, a well known one, and you know. I am a physicist and rather keep to myself. My interest is purely scientific more than anything else. Is it determined which star system they come from?
Dr.Walker: I didn't get that.
Azadehdel: I repeated the question
Dr. Walker: Ah, I do not think so.
Azadehdel: Is it still unknown?
Dr. Walker: I think that is the picture, I am not sure.
Azadehdel: But what amazes me, Doctor, is the frequent appearance of these objects. Does this suggest that they might have a base in one of our solar systems?
Dr Walker: Well. We can make a point of these, but they did not tell us.
Azadehdel: Have we been able to make contact with them on a communication basis?
Dr Walker: We promised not to tell.
Azadehdel: I can understand it. Does it mean that the official communication has been made, and it has been promised not to tell? Orders are that outside this circle there are private ( bits of ) information they should not know ( the public)
Dr. Walker: I do not think that it is official. If three, four individuals got together on this, it can't be official.
Azadehdel: Do they constitute any threat to the national security of any country?
Dr Walker: Everyone decides this on his own.
Azadehdel: I am told by the Ministry of Defense ( in England) they don't constitute a national threat to this country.
Dr Walker: Well, maybe they know.
Azadehdel: Do you know whether there is any cooperation between them (EBEs) and us, as an advanced civilization?
Dr. Walker: I think so. There have been occasions, but I can only speak for myself.
Azadehdel: But, Doctor, would you consider them to be intruders as a scientist?
Dr Walker: I don't think so. But, if they went into England as intruders, then I think yes, you could.
Azadehdel: Is any one of them alive?
Dr Walker: I cannot answer that.
Azadehdel: Forgive me Doctor, I am not trying to be nosy. Believe me please. It is just scientific curiousity that I have had for many years. I swear.
Dr Walker: All right. If you swear that it is private. You want to talk about it. Then we will talk about it.
Azadehdel: I swear that this is something that is private, and I am eager to learn.
Dr. Walker: I'll send you copies of the book. You read it and see what you learn from it. Of course. I don't have them here. It would take a little while.
Azadehdel: Doctor. Thank-you. I am grateful for your time. Bye. Dr.
Dr. Walker: Bye.
Telephone conversation between Henry Azadehdel of Nottingham, England and Dr.Eric Walker, former (1956-1970) President of Penn State Univ.; ChairmanInstitute for Defense Analysis, and founder and former director of the Navy's Ordanance Research Laboratory. The interview took place March 8,1990.
Mrs Walker Hello?
Azadehdel Hello. Is Dr. Walker in, please?
Mrs. Walker Yes.
(I waited for a short while)
Dr. Walker Hello?
Azadehdel Hello. Dr. Walker. This is Henry from Nottingham.
Dr. Walker Hello. How are you?
Azadehdel I am fine thank you. Doctor, I have sent you a book earlier this week. I hope you will enjoy reading it. It is called the Open Verdict. It is about 25 scientists who worked in the Ministry of Defense, and all died in mysterious circumstances.
Dr Walker Well I have not received it yet. Have you received my book?
Azadehdel No. Doctor. I sent this book on Tuesday by Air Mail. You should receive it in ten days or so. But, Doctor, I have been reading this book called Above Top Secret. There are some documents there referring to a group known as MJ -12. Have you heard of them?
Dr Walker For a long time now. I have nothing to do with them.
Azadehdel Are the documents authentic?
Dr Walker I don't think so.
Azadehdel Doctor. Is there such a group still active?
Dr Walker How good is your mathematics?
Azadehdel As good as it could be for a doctor in physics, but why?
Dr Walker Because only a couple people are capable of handling this issue. Unless your mind ability is like Einstein's or likewise, I do not think you can achieve anything.
Azadehdel well, Doctor, for years I have been trying. But, are there government scientists?
Dr Walker Everyone mistakes this issue. I gather by that you mean whether they work for the Defense establishments of the military.
Azadehdel Yes, Doctor, that is what I meant.
Dr. Walker Well, that is where you are wrong. They are a Handful Of Elite. When you are invited into that group I would know.
Azadehdel Is it a group like Bilderbergs, Pugwash, or the Trilaterals?
Dr Walker I didn't get that
Azadehdel Is this group like the Bilderbergs, Pugwash, or the Trilaterals?
Dr Walker (Silence for a long while) Something like that.
Azadehdel Are there any members of the public in this group?
Dr Walker What do you mean?
Azadehdel I mean ordinary people who have dedicated their lives to studying UFO?
Dr Walker No.
Azadehdel Are you a member of that group?
Dr Walker I cannot answer that. How good is your sixth sense? How much do you know about ESP?
Azadehdel I know to some degree about ESP and EVP. But, what has that got to do with it?
Dr Walker Unless you know about it, and how to use it, you would not be taken in. Only a few know about it.
Azadehdel Doctor, are there any military people in that group?
Dr Walker No.
Azadehdel Have we used any derivative of the learnt technology in the military?
Dr Walker I cannot answer that question. You are trying to squeeze answers out of me. If you are invited into this group I would know.
Azadehdel Are the members 10, 12, 14, are they all Americans?
Dr Walker I cannot give you the numbers, and no, not nessessarily, they are not all Americans.
Azadehdel Doctor, have we mastered the knowledge? Are we working together with the entities? Dr Walker No. We have learned so much, and no we are not working with them...only contact.
Azadehdel Have we captured any saucers.. any material from the discs to study?
Dr Walker The technology is far behind what is known in ordinary terms of physics that you take the measure and obtain measurements. You are pushing for answers aren't you?
Azadehdel Doctor, I have obtained a report called Project Magnet. Have you ever met Wilbert Smith who worked on this project in Canada?
Dr Walker No, I don't believe having met this person.
Azadehdel Is the concept on the Electromagnetic or Gravity?
Dr Walker As I said. It is far ahead of the known level of physics. A very few have knowledge of it.
Azadehdel O.K. Doctor. Let us change the subject. What do you usually read?
Dr Walker Well, at the moment, I am reading The Spy Catcher.
Azadehdel You are a little behind, Doctor, in that department, aren't you?
Dr Walker ( he laughs ) Well, I have not had the time. But it is interesting.I like books like this.
Azadehdel Well, Doctor, in that case you will enjoy my book. I would send you hereafter some books.
Dr Walker Are you familiar with the theory of Relativity? Do you know whether we have used it or not?
Azadehdel Yes, I am familiar with it. But, whether we have used it, I guess my answer would be yes and no.
Dr Walker That is correct, yes and no.
Azadehdel Doctor, I guess this subject is like chasing the whirlwind. ( Henry specifically used this word because of the curious phrase " chasing windmills " used by Walker in the Steinman interview)
Dr Walker Well, yes. But if you capture that whirlwind, what do you want to do with it?
Azadehdel It is a very good and valid question, one which...that sort of analogy from my point of view does not apply to it. I am not going to pass judgment on it, as to whether it is good or bad, and hence I should not follow it up for those reasons. I am a scientist, looking for answers and solutions. I guess like any other scientific problems which I might encounter.
Dr Walker As I said, very few who are not officials have been able to work ( with them ) and if you are invited into their circle, I would know.
Azadehdel Doctor, thank you very much for your time. We should chat again.
Dr Walker Thank you, yes, we should. Bye.
May 30, 1991 Interview Henry Victorian and Dr. Walker - Topic December 9, 1965 crash at Kecksburg PA.
During the investigation of the involvement of Dr. Eric Walker into the area of crashed flying saucers, we realized that Dr. Walker lived only 100 miles from the site of the Kecksburg, Penn Crash in Dec, 1965.
Dr. Walker at the time was then President of Penn. State University. Mr. Stan Gordon was contacted, the chief investigator into the Kecksburg crash. He confirmed that there was a report of someone fitting Dr. Walker's description at the crash scene.
After some discussion, it was decided that Dr. Armen Victorian would do the interview related to the Kecksburg crash with Dr Walker.
The interview was done by phone 6;15 P.M. May 30,1991
AV - Armen Victorian
EW - Eric Walker
AV: Hello?
EW: Hello. Yes.
AV: Dr. Walker?
EW: Yes.
AV: This is Dr. Victorian from England.
EW: Yes. How are you?
AV: Thanks Doctor. I am fine. How are you?
EW: Pretty good.
AV: Doctor. I guess last time I caught you in a bad moment.
EW: I guess you did.
AV: How about this time? Are you doing anything that I might have interrupted?
EW: No. It is OK.
AV: Doctor. I want to ask you about something that might not have anything to do with UFOs. Would you mind asking you? (there was a long silence and then he answered)
EW: What is that?
AV: Doctor. It is about an incident which happened in the mid 60s, on December 9,1965, in Kecksburg. It was, one could say almost in your back garden. Could you tell me anything about it?
EW: What about it?
AV: Well. What did you find out about it?
EW: You still have not given up.
AV: Well doctor. You could say that I am like a turtle. You turn me over, to get rid of me. I struggle for a while on my shell, and eventually get back on my toes.
EW: Well, we went there...
AV: With the military?
EW: Well you could say. There were two from the military - but not on duty.
AV: How about the others?
EW: He was a fellow colleague of mine.
AV: What did you find. Was it a... I know you are not going to like the word... but... was it a UFO?
EW: I cannot comment on that. I cannot tell you.
AV: Were you there for long?
EW: Why?
AV: Well, Curiosity. I thought maybe there was a purpose in the sense of, maybe preparing a report, or taking some notes.
EW: We did not prepare any reports.
AV: Well, Doctor, apart from everything, how are you now-a-days?
EW: I am fine.
AV: Thank-you for your time and help. Good-bye.
EW: BYE.
There are other conversations, some of which were never published which goes into a variety of different aspects of the military and the methods used by the intelligence services and others. Dr Walker was asked whether we had could deal military with these visitors of ours, his response "not a chance!". It also seems if you wish to access certain information, there is a "codeword" which is used which is only valid for a certain period of time.
I did talk to his daugther after Dr Walker's death, she mentioned all his personal records wer taken away by the military and some plain clothes officials.
Dr. Walker taught mathematics and electrical Engineering, for two years, and became chairman of the Dep't of Electrical Engineering at Tufts College (now Tufts University). It was here that Dr. Walker met Dr. Vannevar Bush who had also been the head of the EE Dep't. at Tufts.
Walker also taught mathematics and electrical Engineering at the University of Connecticut, where Walker initiated courses for a special War Training Program.
Once the Americans had entered World War 11, Walker joined the Underwater Sound Laboratory at Harvard University. He was promoted to Assistant Director, and then to Associate Director. Working for Dr. Vannevar Bush's Office of Scientific Research and Development. Dr. Walker found himself in charge of ordnance ( specifically weapons).
Dr. Walker was instrumental in the development of sonar. Dr. Walker had studied the industrial use of acoustics. His studies were applied to the " homing torpedo", which was developed at the Underwater Sound Lab and was successfully used against Axis submarines. For his work, Dr. Walker was awarded the Naval Ordnance Award, and also a Presidential Certificate of Merit.
In 1944, Walker was a civilian employee of the Office of Scientific Research and Development. In 1945, Walker was persuaded by the Dean of Engineering at Penn State to come there and fill a position as Department Head of the Electrical Engineering Dep't.
Interestingly enough, the ordnance section of the Harvard Underwater Sound Laboratory was transferred to Penn State at the same time. It became the Ordnance Research Laboratory, one of the four major Navy Research Laboratories. Dr. Walker was the Director.
In 1951 Dr Walker became Dean of the Dep't of Engineering and Architecture at Penn State, and directed the construction of a research reactor ( Bereazeale Reactor) on the Penn State University Park campus.
In 1956, the then president’s brother, Dr. Milton Eisenhower, named Dr. Walker as Vice president and then President of Penn State to succeed himself. Dr. Eisenhower moved to run John Hopkins.
In addition to his earned degrees., Dr Walker had honorary Doctorates from the following Universities - Temple,Lehigh, Hafstra, Lafayette, the University of Penn, The University of Rhode Island, Elizabethtown College, Jefferson Medical College, Wayne State University, the Univ. of Notre Dame, and the university of Pittsburgh.
Dr. Walker wrote two prize papers for the American Institute of Electrical Engineering, and co-invented the coliolithophone ( a device used for theacoustical detection of gallstones.)
Dr. Walkers awards include, the Navy Distiquished public Service Metal; the American Legion Distinquished Service Award; Fellow, Institute of Radio Engineers; Fellow, Royal Society of Arts (London); Fellow, American Physical Society; Fellow, American Acoustical Society; Horatio Alger Award; Tasker H. Bliss Award of the American Society of Military Engineers; the Golden Omega Award of the Electrical Insulation Industry; the Lamme Award - and an Honorary membership - from the American Society of Electrical Education; the White House Citation from President Nixon; and the Dept of Defense Distinguished Public Service Medal.
Dr. Walker's professional nominations include member of the us Army's Scientific Advisory Panel, Chairman of the Navy Research Advisory Committee,Vice Chairman of the Presidents Committee for Scientists and Engineers, member ( and former Chairman) of the National Research Council's Committee on Undersea Warfare.
Dr. Walker was Executive Director ( and therefore chief administrator) of the Research and Development Board, from 1950 to 1951. This is the same time as the Sarbacher/ Smith conversation. It should be noted that Vannevar Bush was not the Director of the Research and Development Board at this time. He had resigned as director a few years earlier in a disagreement with Truman. There were a number of directors for this period. During the interlude between directors, and when the director was not available, Dr. Walker served as the acting Director.
Dr Walker was chairman of the National Science Foundation Committee for Engineering, Chairman of the Engineering College Research Foundation, President of the Engineers Joint Council. He was appointed in 1957 by President Dwight Eisenhower as General Chairman of the Conference on Technical and Distribution Research for the Benefit of Small Businesses, member of the Board of Visitorsof the United States Naval Academy, Board of Visitors to the US Military Academy, President of the Penn. Association of Colleges and Universities, member of the Advisory Committee on Higher Education, member of the Commission on Higher Education of the Middle states association of Colleges and Universities, Vice President and President of the American Association of Engineering Education, founding member and President of the American Academy of Engineering, President of the Commonwealth Industrial Research Corporation, Chairman of the National Science Board, advisor on engineering and technicalmanpower Pres. Sci. Advisory Committee.
Walker was a member of the Board of the Engineering Foundation, the Board of Trustees of the Science Service, the Board of Directors of the Mid-State Bank and Trust Company. Dr. Walker was Vice President of Science and Technology for Aluminum Co. America. He was on the Board of Directors of Girand Trust Company, and the Board of Directors of Westinghouse Brake Company. He was chairman of the Board of Directors of Melpar Corporation as well as Consultant of Research and Engineering to Koppers Corp, Borg-Warner Corporation, Bendix Aviation Co, Hughes Aircraft Corp, IBM Corp, and other firms.
Walker served as a member of the Institute for Defense Analysis from 1958 to 1981 when he became Chairman of the Board. In 1986 he became Chairman Emeritus and remained in that position until his death. The Institute for Defense Analysis (IDA) is known as " the think tank to the highest echelons of the Pentagon " and "the principal advisory organization serving the office of the Secretary of Defense as a whole."
90% of the work done by IDA is TOP SECRET, the other 10% is for OFFICIAL EYES ONLY.
This organization spawned off a group from within known as DARPA, or the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency. DARPA was responsible for " the scientific investigation into advanced technologies of the future." DARPA is responsible for the initial research funding for over the horizon radar, the Stealth Technology, and the Internet. ( The internet was begun as a way to make all military computers independent and yet able to communicate with each other even in the event of a nuclear war. There is no central computer to knock out)
Dr. Walker initiated the Conference on the Administration of Research in1947.
He published numerous articles in various periodicals and professional journals and co-authored a book entitled The Physical Basis of Electrical Engineering.
Dr. Walker wrote a column for the Center Daily Times of State College, Penn and in the early 1970s, directed a nationwide study for the ASEE on the " Goals of Engineering Education." In 1989 Dr. Walker published his autobiography " Now Its My Turn: Engineering My Way."
Dr. Walker maintained an office at Penn State University and went there almost every day until his death. He died at home Feb. 17, 1995.
I filed FOIA request for his government records. I obtained his FBI file the Office of Federal Investigations, and a file from the then Defense Investigative Service. I also obtained documents from the Eisenhower Presidential Library. I can confirm also during the early 1970s Dr Walker did some work for the National Security Agency.
THE CONVERSATIONS
January 26, 1990 Interview Henry Victorian and Dr. Eric Walker
Dr. Robert Sarbacher identified Dr. Eric Walker as one of a group who attended a briefing on the military recovery of a downed flying saucer, and the bodies of the crew within. Posted here is a conversation between Dr. Armen Azadehdel, (using his English name Henry Victorian) a physicist from Nottingham England, and Dr. Eric Walker. Phone conversation January 26,90
Mrs. Walker: Hello?
Azadehdel: Hello, good morning ma'am. Is Dr. Walker in?
Mrs. Walker: No, he is not. He is out.
Azadehdel: That is fine. I am calling long distance. Do you know when he will be back?
Mrs. Walker: Well. I am sure that he is playing tennis. Oh, here he comes now. He is driving in. Just hold on. He will be here.
Dr. Walker: Hello?
Azadehdel: Dr. Walker?
Dr. Walker: Yeah.
Azadehdel: Very good morning to you. This is Dr. Victorian from Nottingham. ( Dr. Azadehdel is using the name Dr. Victorian )
Dr. Walker: Well, how are you?
Azadehdel: Not bad, thank-you, and you?
Dr. Walker: Pretty good.
Azadehdel: Doctor, I was in the Long Eaton Library ( Dr. Walker was born in England) I was talking to the librarian there, and I mentioned that there is a gentleman who was born here. Doctor, is there anything you have written that I can ask you to send us in order to leave in the library in Long Eaton? Dr. Walker I have written an autobiography, and it was published about three months ago, and I had a friend who took several copies over to England he wanted to leave in various places. It is called " Now it's my Turn."
Azadehdel: Doctor, would it be possible if I ask you to send a copy auto- graphed by you specifically for the Long Eaton Library?
Dr. Walker: Yes. I think so. Give me an address.
Azadehdel: You have my address.
Dr. Walker: Not here, no.
Azadehdel: I'll give it to you. ( I started giving my address again to him spelling the name of the street I live in. Then when I wanted to spell the name of the area that I live in, he interrupted me and said " I know where Aspley Park is." Then after giving him my address, I said " Doctor - did you get my second letter?
Dr. Walker: No I have not. See, I am not in Pennsylvania, so my mail piles up till I get back.
Azadehdel: Yes. I have replied to your first letter. I don't know the gentleman you have mentioned ( referring to Bill Steinman ) As a matter of fact, I have no contact with anybody else at all. I have been working alone on this project.
Dr. Walker: Well, the man has a network with all the people interested in this, and he tries to keep all the information in one place.
Azadehdel: To be honest with you, I'd rather not contact these people at all. I'd rather keep to myself.
Dr. Walker: Yep
Azadehdel: There are five photos available about the case I mentioned to you. ( Henry is referring to the crash of a UFO in Bolivia that he attended while searching for orchids in the late 1970s)
Dr. Walker: Yep
Azadehdel: But the entities photographed are all insect like.
Dr. Walker: Aha
Azadehdel: They were very light.
Dr. Walker: Do they have antennae?
Azadehdel: No. The skin was pale. Extremely large eyes. Three on the river side, two inside. I had a German friend with me. Do you have any interest in Botany?
Dr. Walker: No, not that I can get at.
Azadehdel: ( I explained the circumstances < whereby we had been led> to take the photographs to him)
Dr. Walker: No ears. How many eyes?
Azadehdel: Two eyes.
Dr. Walker: Big eyes?
Azadehdel: Yes. Big eyes. Extremely large eyes. Especially their forehead was very large. Their arms and hands were very thin. The same thickness of my five year old son's.
Dr. Walker: I say, I have no resources at all, no friends for these things where I am now.
Azadehdel: But, Doctor, have we captured anything at all. We must have.
Dr. Walker: SURE
Azadehdel: Anything, did we learn anything?
Dr. Walker: Yeah. I think so.
Azadehdel: Doctor would it be possible if you could help me with this?
Dr Walker: You know, you can contact Crain.
Adadedel: Who is Crain?
Dr Walker: The guy I wrote you about. The man I told you about...( He had not mentioned Crain's name in the letter to me. My guess is that he was throwing the name to see if I knew him or would give the game away. Or maybe there is a letter in the post to me in which he has mentioned Crain's name. However, I told him the truth that according to our correspondence to date I do not know Crain)
Azadehdel: in the letter there was something about a Mr. Sti...Steenman?
Dr Walker: Steinman. He and Crain work together. (He gave the name of Steinman's home town to me.)
Azadehdel: Well, I really try to keep out of them. With due respect, you are a scientist, a well known one, and you know. I am a physicist and rather keep to myself. My interest is purely scientific more than anything else. Is it determined which star system they come from?
Dr.Walker: I didn't get that.
Azadehdel: I repeated the question
Dr. Walker: Ah, I do not think so.
Azadehdel: Is it still unknown?
Dr. Walker: I think that is the picture, I am not sure.
Azadehdel: But what amazes me, Doctor, is the frequent appearance of these objects. Does this suggest that they might have a base in one of our solar systems?
Dr Walker: Well. We can make a point of these, but they did not tell us.
Azadehdel: Have we been able to make contact with them on a communication basis?
Dr Walker: We promised not to tell.
Azadehdel: I can understand it. Does it mean that the official communication has been made, and it has been promised not to tell? Orders are that outside this circle there are private ( bits of ) information they should not know ( the public)
Dr. Walker: I do not think that it is official. If three, four individuals got together on this, it can't be official.
Azadehdel: Do they constitute any threat to the national security of any country?
Dr Walker: Everyone decides this on his own.
Azadehdel: I am told by the Ministry of Defense ( in England) they don't constitute a national threat to this country.
Dr Walker: Well, maybe they know.
Azadehdel: Do you know whether there is any cooperation between them (EBEs) and us, as an advanced civilization?
Dr. Walker: I think so. There have been occasions, but I can only speak for myself.
Azadehdel: But, Doctor, would you consider them to be intruders as a scientist?
Dr Walker: I don't think so. But, if they went into England as intruders, then I think yes, you could.
Azadehdel: Is any one of them alive?
Dr Walker: I cannot answer that.
Azadehdel: Forgive me Doctor, I am not trying to be nosy. Believe me please. It is just scientific curiousity that I have had for many years. I swear.
Dr Walker: All right. If you swear that it is private. You want to talk about it. Then we will talk about it.
Azadehdel: I swear that this is something that is private, and I am eager to learn.
Dr. Walker: I'll send you copies of the book. You read it and see what you learn from it. Of course. I don't have them here. It would take a little while.
Azadehdel: Doctor. Thank-you. I am grateful for your time. Bye. Dr.
Dr. Walker: Bye.
Telephone conversation between Henry Azadehdel of Nottingham, England and Dr.Eric Walker, former (1956-1970) President of Penn State Univ.; ChairmanInstitute for Defense Analysis, and founder and former director of the Navy's Ordanance Research Laboratory. The interview took place March 8,1990.
Mrs Walker Hello?
Azadehdel Hello. Is Dr. Walker in, please?
Mrs. Walker Yes.
(I waited for a short while)
Dr. Walker Hello?
Azadehdel Hello. Dr. Walker. This is Henry from Nottingham.
Dr. Walker Hello. How are you?
Azadehdel I am fine thank you. Doctor, I have sent you a book earlier this week. I hope you will enjoy reading it. It is called the Open Verdict. It is about 25 scientists who worked in the Ministry of Defense, and all died in mysterious circumstances.
Dr Walker Well I have not received it yet. Have you received my book?
Azadehdel No. Doctor. I sent this book on Tuesday by Air Mail. You should receive it in ten days or so. But, Doctor, I have been reading this book called Above Top Secret. There are some documents there referring to a group known as MJ -12. Have you heard of them?
Dr Walker For a long time now. I have nothing to do with them.
Azadehdel Are the documents authentic?
Dr Walker I don't think so.
Azadehdel Doctor. Is there such a group still active?
Dr Walker How good is your mathematics?
Azadehdel As good as it could be for a doctor in physics, but why?
Dr Walker Because only a couple people are capable of handling this issue. Unless your mind ability is like Einstein's or likewise, I do not think you can achieve anything.
Azadehdel well, Doctor, for years I have been trying. But, are there government scientists?
Dr Walker Everyone mistakes this issue. I gather by that you mean whether they work for the Defense establishments of the military.
Azadehdel Yes, Doctor, that is what I meant.
Dr. Walker Well, that is where you are wrong. They are a Handful Of Elite. When you are invited into that group I would know.
Azadehdel Is it a group like Bilderbergs, Pugwash, or the Trilaterals?
Dr Walker I didn't get that
Azadehdel Is this group like the Bilderbergs, Pugwash, or the Trilaterals?
Dr Walker (Silence for a long while) Something like that.
Azadehdel Are there any members of the public in this group?
Dr Walker What do you mean?
Azadehdel I mean ordinary people who have dedicated their lives to studying UFO?
Dr Walker No.
Azadehdel Are you a member of that group?
Dr Walker I cannot answer that. How good is your sixth sense? How much do you know about ESP?
Azadehdel I know to some degree about ESP and EVP. But, what has that got to do with it?
Dr Walker Unless you know about it, and how to use it, you would not be taken in. Only a few know about it.
Azadehdel Doctor, are there any military people in that group?
Dr Walker No.
Azadehdel Have we used any derivative of the learnt technology in the military?
Dr Walker I cannot answer that question. You are trying to squeeze answers out of me. If you are invited into this group I would know.
Azadehdel Are the members 10, 12, 14, are they all Americans?
Dr Walker I cannot give you the numbers, and no, not nessessarily, they are not all Americans.
Azadehdel Doctor, have we mastered the knowledge? Are we working together with the entities? Dr Walker No. We have learned so much, and no we are not working with them...only contact.
Azadehdel Have we captured any saucers.. any material from the discs to study?
Dr Walker The technology is far behind what is known in ordinary terms of physics that you take the measure and obtain measurements. You are pushing for answers aren't you?
Azadehdel Doctor, I have obtained a report called Project Magnet. Have you ever met Wilbert Smith who worked on this project in Canada?
Dr Walker No, I don't believe having met this person.
Azadehdel Is the concept on the Electromagnetic or Gravity?
Dr Walker As I said. It is far ahead of the known level of physics. A very few have knowledge of it.
Azadehdel O.K. Doctor. Let us change the subject. What do you usually read?
Dr Walker Well, at the moment, I am reading The Spy Catcher.
Azadehdel You are a little behind, Doctor, in that department, aren't you?
Dr Walker ( he laughs ) Well, I have not had the time. But it is interesting.I like books like this.
Azadehdel Well, Doctor, in that case you will enjoy my book. I would send you hereafter some books.
Dr Walker Are you familiar with the theory of Relativity? Do you know whether we have used it or not?
Azadehdel Yes, I am familiar with it. But, whether we have used it, I guess my answer would be yes and no.
Dr Walker That is correct, yes and no.
Azadehdel Doctor, I guess this subject is like chasing the whirlwind. ( Henry specifically used this word because of the curious phrase " chasing windmills " used by Walker in the Steinman interview)
Dr Walker Well, yes. But if you capture that whirlwind, what do you want to do with it?
Azadehdel It is a very good and valid question, one which...that sort of analogy from my point of view does not apply to it. I am not going to pass judgment on it, as to whether it is good or bad, and hence I should not follow it up for those reasons. I am a scientist, looking for answers and solutions. I guess like any other scientific problems which I might encounter.
Dr Walker As I said, very few who are not officials have been able to work ( with them ) and if you are invited into their circle, I would know.
Azadehdel Doctor, thank you very much for your time. We should chat again.
Dr Walker Thank you, yes, we should. Bye.
May 30, 1991 Interview Henry Victorian and Dr. Walker - Topic December 9, 1965 crash at Kecksburg PA.
During the investigation of the involvement of Dr. Eric Walker into the area of crashed flying saucers, we realized that Dr. Walker lived only 100 miles from the site of the Kecksburg, Penn Crash in Dec, 1965.
Dr. Walker at the time was then President of Penn. State University. Mr. Stan Gordon was contacted, the chief investigator into the Kecksburg crash. He confirmed that there was a report of someone fitting Dr. Walker's description at the crash scene.
After some discussion, it was decided that Dr. Armen Victorian would do the interview related to the Kecksburg crash with Dr Walker.
The interview was done by phone 6;15 P.M. May 30,1991
AV - Armen Victorian
EW - Eric Walker
AV: Hello?
EW: Hello. Yes.
AV: Dr. Walker?
EW: Yes.
AV: This is Dr. Victorian from England.
EW: Yes. How are you?
AV: Thanks Doctor. I am fine. How are you?
EW: Pretty good.
AV: Doctor. I guess last time I caught you in a bad moment.
EW: I guess you did.
AV: How about this time? Are you doing anything that I might have interrupted?
EW: No. It is OK.
AV: Doctor. I want to ask you about something that might not have anything to do with UFOs. Would you mind asking you? (there was a long silence and then he answered)
EW: What is that?
AV: Doctor. It is about an incident which happened in the mid 60s, on December 9,1965, in Kecksburg. It was, one could say almost in your back garden. Could you tell me anything about it?
EW: What about it?
AV: Well. What did you find out about it?
EW: You still have not given up.
AV: Well doctor. You could say that I am like a turtle. You turn me over, to get rid of me. I struggle for a while on my shell, and eventually get back on my toes.
EW: Well, we went there...
AV: With the military?
EW: Well you could say. There were two from the military - but not on duty.
AV: How about the others?
EW: He was a fellow colleague of mine.
AV: What did you find. Was it a... I know you are not going to like the word... but... was it a UFO?
EW: I cannot comment on that. I cannot tell you.
AV: Were you there for long?
EW: Why?
AV: Well, Curiosity. I thought maybe there was a purpose in the sense of, maybe preparing a report, or taking some notes.
EW: We did not prepare any reports.
AV: Well, Doctor, apart from everything, how are you now-a-days?
EW: I am fine.
AV: Thank-you for your time and help. Good-bye.
EW: BYE.
There are other conversations, some of which were never published which goes into a variety of different aspects of the military and the methods used by the intelligence services and others. Dr Walker was asked whether we had could deal military with these visitors of ours, his response "not a chance!". It also seems if you wish to access certain information, there is a "codeword" which is used which is only valid for a certain period of time.
I did talk to his daugther after Dr Walker's death, she mentioned all his personal records wer taken away by the military and some plain clothes officials.