[HOAX] Warning from "NASA Scientist": claims Aliens warn of massive threat to Earth

[Unified Serenity]

There is a new video up talking about how NASA's SARA group made contact with an "Alien" intelligence back in '93, that they don't know where they are communicating from, and that the SARA team has figured out a message from them of a great warning for our planet.

You can read the entire post here. (http://unifiedserenity.wordpress.com/2012/08/12/nasa-scientist-extra-terrestrial-contact-is-fact/)

Here is the video though:

gFSPWC8TKnk

Is this just fear mongering, another psy-op or a real event we are about to experience?

Basically, we are about to experience in 2016 a pole flip which will cause the Van Allen Belt to come through our magnetic field which will devastate life on earth, and the NASA higher ups are not revealing it because this information will cause worldwide panic.

My mind is not made up, but I share this infor with you to know and discuss it.

[Bill Ryan]

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US, many thanks for this. Just read your very detailed blog report. (http://unifiedserenity.wordpress.com/2012/08/12/nasa-scientist-extra-terrestrial-contact-is-fact/). I've also downloaded the video, and will watch it now.

One note -- which I'll amend later if needed! A geomagnetic pole shift is not a physical pole shift. That would certainly trigger all kinds of earth changes, but it's not the kind of catastrophic event that's like slopping a basin of water around, causing inundation, tsunamis, and mass flooding. [Having said that, I've not yet watched the video. More later.]

[Unified Serenity]

Thanks Bill,

Yeh, he says in the video that it's not like the 2012 scenario that the problem arises ie massive deluge etc, but we are seeing earth changes in weather, and he discounts a lot of the HAARP stories, but says SARA does use HAARP for sending messages out in space. He was basically saying that the pole shift we have been warned about by the aliens will weaken our magnetosphere and that radiation will kill most of life on the surface and cause genetic mutations for what is left.

He offers some solutions, but says it will take the whole world working together to siphon off the radiation from the van allen belt so we can survive it, but we can't do that if the people remain ignorant. Many here know my views on a push to make us fearful, that a time of incredible chaos is coming and from that the elites can play their NWO game of system change. I look forward to hearing from the scientists on the forum.

[greybeard]

Red Ice Radio - Drunvalo Melchizedek; July 7th
On the radio interview Drunvalo said that the Mayans predict a magnetic pole shift first but in February 2016 a physical pole shift will happen.
There is an enormous amount in this interview.
With me its a maybe so --hypothetical.
However quite a few "pundits" are pointing to an upraising of human consciousness and upgrade in DNA.
Chris

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTh_ALf1Rok


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTh_ALf1Rok

[Bill Ryan]

Thanks Bill,

Yeh, he says in the video that it's not like the 2012 scenario that the problem arises ie massive deluge etc, but we are seeing earth changes in weather, and he discounts a lot of the HAARP stories, but says SARA does use HAARP for sending messages out in space. He was basically saying that the pole shift we have been warned about by the aliens will weaken our magnetosphere and that radiation will kill most of life on the surface and cause genetic mutations for what is left.

He offers some solutions, but says it will take the whole world working together to siphon off the radiation from the van allen belt so we can survive it, but we can't do that if the people remain ignorant. Many here know my views on a push to make us fearful, that a time of incredible chaos is coming and from that the elites can play their NWO game of system change. I look forward to hearing from the scientists on the forum.

I kind of hate to say this, but this aligns with the tens of trillions of dollars spent in construction of all the underground bases in every first-world country. This scenario alone would explain it.

[Unified Serenity]

Thanks Bill, I thought of the underground bases. So, if this is true, and the radiation can be that bad, will building earth ship homes underground 10 feet protect us for the worst few months this is going on? I have several designs already, and options. I would appreciate any scientific data as that would be most helpful.

Thanks

[Adi]

"The world is very beautiful place but it won't always be this way",

This quote just popped into my mind from Bill's interview with Freedom Central, creepy.

Adi

[Molope]

This scenario is perfect for the NWO to kill most of humanity and only left the "chose ones" Alive.If they got their underground bases ready for that event then i doubt they will inform the world about the threat i really doubt it the elites will simply hide and watch the show.

[Unified Serenity]

Here's the question, is there enough room for 500,000,000? I kind of doubt that, but then again, I'm not privy to the underground base holding / provision abilities. I do think that is why the seed vaults were made though to survive a crisis event that would kill off most plant life on the surface.

[Möbius]

Why don't they ask the ETs for a solution to this problem?

[Bill Ryan]

"The world is very beautiful place but it won't always be this way",

This quote just popped into my mind from Bill's interview with Freedom Central, creepy.


For those unfamiliar with the anecdote:

Many years ago (1984) my girlfriend at the time, whose name was Angi, started to demonstrate a number of strong signs that she was not fully human.

It was at that time that an ET physically appeared (materialized) in my bedroom. I was in bed with her (at about 10.30 at night, and neither of us had fallen asleep) -- and we were cuddling face to face.

Looking over her shoulder, I saw the being appear in the doorway. It was there for about 30-45 seconds, and looked like a bald-headed 12 year-old child, with large eyes (but not the huge, almond-shaped kind). It was not an illusion. It was physically there.

It just looked at me. I stared back, frozen. I never said a word (I was speechless!) -- and Angi had her back to the being. As my body tensed, she said, without once turning her head to look towards the door: "Don't worry, it's all right. I see them all the time."

Write that into a movie script! After that, a whole series of things happened that are beyond the scope of this post or this thread. The remark Adi referred to was when we were having breakfast, soon after the ET incident. Everything was perfectly normal. It was just breakfast.

Out of the blue and without warning or context, Angi looked up at me from her bowl of granola and said:

"The Earth is a very beautiful place. It won't always be this way."

I asked her what on earth she meant -- and she acted as if she'd never said anything. It was like the words were not hers, but were coming through her. (This happened increasingly often). I get chills every time I think about it.

[cloud9]

I just got a question:
what if the van Allen belt is the grid or mechanism (I don't remember the right word) that is keeping us out of contact with the rest of the universe? The reason some people say this planet is a prison and that we have been quarantined... I'm kind of rambling here but would there a chance that this event would be positive instead of negative?

[Molope]

I think Ets are just simply spectators of whats going on.But they warned us just to see if we are capable of working together to fix our own problems if we dont death will be our punishment kinda like a game.

Edit:If this even happens i will die whith 22 years damm too young...i really really hope we can just put our diffenrences away and say ok people lets do this for humanity.

[Sidney]

Oh darn, does this mean we have to wait 2 more years? I was much more hoping for a 2012 event to start getting our planet back to its good health.

[greybeard]

Over the years I have been looking at the essence of this subject--- starting with Gordon Michael Scallion re earth changes.
The conclusion I have come to is that there is a possible separation--- some will stay on the present earth and experience the massive changes, others will have a change in perception, that comes from many sources.
With a change in perception our view of the world would be the equivalent of moving to 4th dimension. That does not have to be physical.
So those with a change of perception would not experience the massive changes that seem very likely to happen.
This would seem to depend on the personal level of consciousness. ie the ability to forgive and be kind to others.
Not saying im right just the way I see it at the moment.
Chris

[Arrowwind]

Oh darn, does this mean we have to wait 2 more years? I was much more hoping for a 2012 event to start getting our planet back to its good health.

Have you ever noticed that the dramatic events predicted keep getting pushed into the future?

[ThePythonicCow]

He was basically saying that the pole shift we have been warned about by the aliens will weaken our magnetosphere and that radiation will kill most of life on the surface and cause genetic mutations for what is left.
The inner Van Allen radiation belt, the one closest to the surface of earth, has mostly alpha radiation (protons.) Dr. Sal says as much in the above video.

However when I look up what sort of shielding is required to protect my body from alpha radiation, I read that a single sheet of paper is sufficient. Even my skin is sufficient, so long as I don't breath in alpha emitting radioactively decaying material into my lungs or ingest it into my digestive tract.

This suggests to me that if the inner Van Allen radiation belt descends to earth's surface (Northern Lights -- everywhere! ?), it's not a serious risk so long as one can stay in doors and has food and water for the, say, two months he expected this to be at its worst. That seems doable, on an individual basis. What might not be so doable is getting most of humanity through this, or feeding us all after it is over, if all we have left to eat is what we can grow from stored seeds on barren ground.

I would have guessed further however that our atmosphere would protect us and even outdoor plants and animals would mostly survive, except perhaps those at very high elevations or those already of rather marginal health.

In sum, I'm suspending judgment on this for three reasons:

were we told this by knowledgeable aliens communicating to NASA,
will earth's magnetic poles rapidly flip causing the Van Allen radiation belts descend to earth's surface, and
would that really be an extinction level event.

Some reasonably knowledgeable in astrophysics and the biological affects of alpha radiation should reasonably be able to answer at least my third reason.

[seantimberwolf]

This is allot more plausible, bill has been saying for a long time that a 2012 type event is not possible and i have stood by that, but this....this seems.....real if you catch my meaning.
Its always been a fact that the most deadly things in space are that which we cannot see.

How far would one have to go to avoid radiation?

[cloud9]

Bill, I'd like to ask your opinion about the Galen Winsor video about radiation if you have seen it. My idea is that if radiation were so dangerous we would know but now about thousands or even millions of japanese people dying and other close areas of the world. Is it possible that the so feared radiation is "absorbed" or integrated by planet earth without so much problem?

[seantimberwolf]

i think this will and has been affecting us already.

It seems nowadays the population is divided into a chalk and cheese scenario,
Some have started to become more aware and more empathic, (being an empath i sense this)
And the other part of society is becoming more and more barbaric, with horrible attacks and more war.

Something has to give at some point, i used to be very much into things that now i just cannot stomach,
For instance i used to love fighting, like kickboxing, MMA, and i used to quite enjoy crushing an opponent in the ring, i stop doing it about 9 months ago and can no longer even process the thought of hurting another to further my ego.

I guess this could all be linked but the video certainly explains allot in my life right now ill tell you that much

:)

[Chester]

Over the years I have been looking at the essence of this subject--- starting with Gordon Michael Scallion re earth changes.
The conclusion I have come to is that there is a possible separation--- some will stay on the present earth and experience the massive changes, others will have a change in perception, that comes from many sources.
With a change in perception our view of the world would be the equivalent of moving to 4th dimension. That does not have to be physical.
So those with a change of perception would not experience the massive changes that seem very likely to happen.
This would seem to depend on the personal level of consciousness. ie the ability to forgive and be kind to others.
Not saying im right just the way I see it at the moment.
Chris

Finally! Someone else who shares my (basic core) view... Thanks! I hate being alone... justoneoptimist

[Unified Serenity]

I like your explanation a lot Paul, so I can just keep paper? Ok, I know that's not what you said, but it seems we can survive this. Is there more to the story scientific type peeps on this forum, please respond. What if it means the outer belt can get to us? I am serious about what is coming. I think knowing how to garden, process and keep water, and not be dependent is key, but I don't want to go over-board.

[Rocky_Shorz]

There is a new video up talking about how NASA's SARA group made contact with an "Alien" intelligence back in '93, that they don't know where they are communicating from, and that the SARA team has figured out a message from them of a great warning for our planet.

You can read the entire post here. (http://unifiedserenity.wordpress.com/2012/08/12/nasa-scientist-extra-terrestrial-contact-is-fact/)

Here is the video though:

gFSPWC8TKnk

Is this just fear mongering, another psy-op or a real event we are about to experience?

Basically, we are about to experience in 2016 a pole flip which will cause the Van Allen Belt to come through our magnetic field which will devastate life on earth, and the NASA higher ups are not revealing it because this information will cause worldwide panic.

My mind is not made up, but I share this infor with you to know and discuss it.


We have been endarkened again!!! woo hooo!!!

we were getting pretty close to passing the Mayan date...

[Selene]

Can someone please archive this vid into some other format for long-term viewing?

I've a feeling it's going to get 'taken down' from YT by NASA very soon....

gFSPWC8TKnk

Thanks,

Selene

[Praxis]

I think that this would explain why they are not telling people and building underground bases because this scenario would fulfill what they would like to happen, if it truly is their intention, of having most humans die. However, I can't get over the logistics of keeping the community going underground. If the surface is going to get uninhabitable, then the bases underground have to self contained and self sufficient. This means they have to have means of providing water, food, and air for all the people down there. Basically they have to have a space ship that would be able to travel space but underground. Are they creating biospheres underground? It seems that they either have amazing technology, that could probably help avert the crisis on the surface, or they are setting up crazy complex biological systems underground.
But I can not believe that most people in the conspiracy, willing or not, truly are alright with the genocide of most of their own species. Yes, people in the capstone most certainly do this but how much of the capstone is truly that way? I would put it at 5 to 10% and the rest are just working for them because they do see any other options. These people are smart and they have to know about genetic diversity requirements and when you kill 80% of the people, it is not a stable gene base to avoid what has happened to the royal families because of inbreeding. Yes this would fir the Dan Burisch side of things where they are coming back to fix genetic problems, but wouldnt interacting with them and knowing that make you want to not carry out the plans?
damn temporal paradox. I have no idea what is going on . . .

[lightseeker]

Graybeard, I tend to think along the line you have suggested. There are those who will chose to stay and experience what will happen and those who have changed their perception (raised their vibration into 4/5 dimension). We all have the freedom to create / make our own choices. I need not remind anyone here that there is no right or wrong choice, no judgement! There never has been judgement, that is a human frailty/flaw based on misunderstanding and plain ignorance. Many of us are still not capable of the wisdom required to see deeper and from many different views to the perceived realities we chose to create, in my humble opinion. Regardless of what happens collectively or individually, we are all ONE! Digging holes to live in from my point of view is a waste of time and energy. What ever will happen will happen. I chose to put my time and energy into creating the reality we wish to be. Live with love and compassion. We already know that we are immortal beings enjoying a human body experience. I/WE KNOW we are not our bodies. Choose the paths we will, whatever you wish and enjoy!!

[ThePythonicCow]

Can someone please archive this vid into some other format for long-term viewing?

I have copies.

[nearing]

If this guy is for real, then well this is HUGE!!!!!!!!!

gFSPWC8TKnk

I wonder if Bill or Kerry could confirm what he is saying and who he is?

[schneider]

Another concern is what happens to our minds when these changes occur. Like he said, we may be experiencing the beginnings of this already. Are there any studies out that have shown the affects of quick magnetic changes on humans, animals or plants?

[delfine]

There is a new video up talking about how NASA's SARA group made contact with an "Alien" intelligence back in '93, that they don't know where they are communicating from, and that the SARA team has figured out a message from them of a great warning for our planet.

You can read the entire post here. (http://unifiedserenity.wordpress.com/2012/08/12/nasa-scientist-extra-terrestrial-contact-is-fact/)

Here is the video though:

gFSPWC8TKnk

Is this just fear mongering, another psy-op or a real event we are about to experience?

Basically, we are about to experience in 2016 a pole flip which will cause the Van Allen Belt to come through our magnetic field which will devastate life on earth, and the NASA higher ups are not revealing it because this information will cause worldwide panic.

My mind is not made up, but I share this infor with you to know and discuss it.

Yes he seems 100% sincere. (And also a very dear man) :). Thank you so much for posting Unified Serenity!

[greybeard]

Eckhart Tolle in The Power of Now said there will be increased madness--- some cant stand the energy coming into the earth at the moment.
Eckhart also said at a talk in London that the human race is on the brink of the biggest step forward in the evolution of man kind since we became land animals.
Gregg Braden has been speaking about magnetic reversal for years.
Many including Gregg have talked about the effects on DNA of energy from the sun.
Heart Maths is worth googling.
David Sereda on Coast to coast AM talking about 2012 energy (U tube)
Its all out there if you know where to look.
Science and spirituality really is coming together.

My belief is that we will be fine, not saying that it will be easy.

Chris

[ROMANWKT]

Well here we go again,

I think that the guy is a possible B S ter, and we do have the pushing of the dates forward again, finalization by 2017 as mentioned by others. Did not like the fact that if its time to tell the truth, he shows amazement at the speed of communication, and as we well know Teslas communicating speed was removed from us , and limits set by RCA, and poor old Nasa don't quite know what to do with all this info and has not a clue how to handle this, and they are supposed to be 10,000 or more years ahead in technology, here behaving like lost souls, he is very into all the BS that we are bombarded daily with disinfo, but has no clue or wishes to diminish the fact of Alien presence, I think he is desperately trying to unite the world and do the good thing, but the weakness of his disclosures, it lack all the thing that should of been said that Nasa has been withholding from humanity for a long time, I am not sold on this as yet, he is in communication, errr I don't think so.

regards
roman


edit: well hell Bill I wrote this, and you have published before me, yes I did not find him knowledgeable, maybe as you said, compartmentalization.

[GlassSteagallfan]

More on the pole shift at '2 Minute News' Published on Aug 11, 2012 by Suspicious0bservers:

The pole shift info starts at 1:35


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBLF-Y2qxaw&list=UUTiL1q9YbrVam5nP2xzFTWQ&index=2&feature=plcp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBLF-Y2qxaw&list=UUTiL1q9YbrVam5nP2xzFTWQ&index=2&feature=plcp

Links are below video if you watch it on Youtube

[K626]

I'm dismissing it out of hand.

love and peace

K

[cloud9]

There's something that makes me to be on the fence with this information, Dr. Sal says that the messages take 331 days to traverse the space between their planet or area in space to get to earth but according to quantum physics and if their technology is so advanced, I'd say this is waaaay too long. If they are so advanced as to know or foresee what is going to happen in our planet even though they are so far away, how come the communication is not faster?
Besides, why would they be interested in looking at the future of a planet that perhaps it's not related to them? What would have made them interested or curious about us?

[GK76]

Another 2012 to hook us all on? Let's face it the old 2012 crap was running out of time.

Can anyone confirm he is who he says he is? Maybe he is who he claims to be but the story is fake, he fell for it, and is playing a part orchestrated by others. There is probably another NASA department getting their jollies watching the reactions.

Surely TPTB would have been aware of this. If so then surely they would stop wasting their time trying to create the NWO, go underground and wait for the 70-80% loss of life, then come out triumphant and force the remainder to unite under one government.

Also these messages they have received, isn't that similar to channelling? No idea who or what they are talking to. Also the message is sent out and received much sooner than expected. Doesn't this seem dodgy to anyone? After all it is known that the secret government has access to technology way advanced to our own, couldn't NASA and the space command (or whatever they claim to be called) get together to create this whole fiasco?

Well they have been looking for a false flag event to introduce us to ET. Surely we all slowly come to terms with the inevitable and then... ET to the rescue! Although there is no real rescue due to the fact the story was BS.

For me there are so many questions to ask and no real sources of information, after all does anyone have a spare HAARP to test with?

That's my waffle for the moment - too many ways to throw spanners in the works and so little known about this guy and his story. Thanks for reading (assuming you made it this far) :)

[lightwalker]

Don't you think Mother Earth would have something to say about this.....and if they" (whoever they be) killed off everyone wouldn't that be defeating their purpose of feeding off of us emotionally. I choose not to watch the video but I think that there is an even bigger picture to all of this.
lightwalker

[gripreaper]

Eckhart Tolle in The Power of Now said there will be increased madness--- some cant stand the energy coming into the earth at the moment.
Eckhart also said at a talk in London that the human race is on the brink of the biggest step forward in the evolution of man kind since we became land animals.
Gregg Braden has been speaking about magnetic reversal for years.
Many including Gregg have talked about the effects on DNA of energy from the sun.
Heart Maths is worth googling.
David Sereda on Coast to coast AM talking about 2012 energy (U tube)
Its all out there if you know where to look.
Science and spirituality really is coming together.

My belief is that we will be fine, not saying that it will be easy.

Chris

Yes, as well as Pane Androv, Drunvalo Melchizedek, and others are calling for a pole shift. Can we really influence the source field, the Grand Sophia with our intention, as these new energies begin to vibrate our cores and bring up memories of who we are as the ancients?

The idea of my bug out bag and a few weeks worth of canned goods just doesn't seem to cut it when it comes to these types of scenarios.

[K626]

There's something that makes me to be on the fence with this information, Dr. Sal says that the messages take 331 days to traverse the space between their planet or area in space to get to earth but according to quantum physics and if their technology is so advanced, I'd say this is waaaay too long. If they are so advanced as to know or foresee what is going to happen in our planet even though they are so far away, how come the communication is not faster?
Besides, why would they be interested in looking at the future of a planet that perhaps it's not related to them? What would have made them interested or curious about us?

Here is the flaw. If they can see the future of the planet why can't they communicate a 'heeluva' lot faster? :lol:

love

K

[Unified Serenity]

I left a lot out of what is being said in the video. If you don't watch the video then you really don't know what you are talking about in regards to the information shared and what others are sharing based on that information. I am not pro or con on this, just watching and reading. I think I am more in line with what GK76 has said. There is too much unknown and not a lot of proof, just some guy talking on a video, and without someone vetting him, and knowing he is exactly who he says he is, I am reticent to take it at face value. He does seem sincere, but then that is why some people are chosen to share lies. They lie well, and I don't know if that is the case here.

I respect those who are seeing the truth in this and are sharing what they know. I too have heard about the pole shifts long before this video and know about the record of the shifts via rock data. Of course, that can all be used cleverly to say, it's happening again. I don't have the rocks or scientific background to study them myself. I will gladly keep reading educated and thoughtful responses to the data.

Thanks for sharing what you can.

[ROMANWKT]

Kerry on Camelot is pushing this too with added info, maybe its really on.

regards
roman

[meat suit]

the video guys body language and narration style tells me that this is an actor.

Raf, what say you?

meat

[Unified Serenity]

Ok, meatsuit now you have me doing my other analysis work. I am not where I can analyze voice data at this time dang it. Can anyone do a voice analysis on this video, and check for stress levels etc. . I can do the visual cues and will watch it again, but as I recall, he did not send off warning bells in that regard the first time I watched him, but to be honest, I was also not watching him constantly.

I'd like to hear from reverse speech analyzers, voice analyzers and visual cue analyzers if they are reading this thread.

I know, lots of requests for those with other duties, but if you have the time, please let me know what you find, and thank you in advance.

[K626]

Ok, meatsuit now you have me doing my other analysis work. I am not where I can analyze voice data at this time dang it. Can anyone do a voice analysis on this video, and check for stress levels etc. . I can do the visual cues and will watch it again, but as I recall, he did not send off warning bells in that regard the first time I watched him, but to be honest, I was also not watching him constantly.

I'd like to hear from reverse speech analyzers, voice analyzers and visual cue analyzers if they are reading this thread.

I know, lots of requests for those with other duties, but if you have the time, please let me know what you find, and thank you in advance.

I realise it's important to put these videos up and for us to get a chance to analyse them. One day one of these will be 'on the button'. :)

Apart from the unbelieveable form of communication, the time lag and so on...(if this great distance IS TRAVERSED) then it would be a matter of minutes..If not it would be years and years. THEY either have the tech or they don't...There is no inbetween. ET who can predict the future IMO has the tech so I find the time lag improbable. Other than this, if ever there was a severe pole occurrance, the magnetic field never falls, it weakens and actually the two fields meld with each other and 'wax and wane'...There is no SHIELD DOWN MOMENT. Other than this it has already happened 100's of times in earths history. :)

My money is still on some kind of 'playing up' of our sun. Hence the re-doubling of our chemtrail sheild (which doubles as a medium for scalar and haarp).

I like the guy though.

love

K

[bogeyman]

Contact has been made some time ago, its not official though. The current group are in contact, not cooperation, as such. I think the law says no citizen can negotiate with a foreign power, and I think "alien" is certain foreign, well at least in part. So no ordinary joe blogs can represent a country so it has been written. As regarding threat the biggest threat is "contamination of the environment", by man's lack of understanding of his world and of course his stupidity. Alien threat, not in the sense as we would understand it. They do not think along the same lines of thought as we do, conquest, plunder etc. Every creature has needs, and if some alien entity has a need for something it will take what it needs, there are no emotions or ethics or ownership of the resources involved here, they do not think along these lines. I find it interesting how man seems to think all life out their has the same level of mentality has himself and that all worlds revolve around him, it is a narrow line of thought. We are just a tiny world, in a ocean, a vast ocean of life.

[Bill Ryan]

Kerry on Camelot is pushing this too with added info, maybe its really on.

Kerry wrote: (http://www.projectcamelotportal.com/kerrys-blog/1263-2016-geomagnetic-reversal.html)





I can say we have other information similar to this from at least one other scientist who is highly respected and is no longer in communication with us. That scientist told us that those in the know were expecting 3 major events in the near future including possibly during 2012:

This is accurate. I referred to that in my post #28 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?48483-Warning-from-NASA-Scientist-stating-Aliens-warn-of-massive-threat-coming-to-Earth&p=536973&viewfull=1#post536973) on the previous page.



I had heard this (about the magnetic field reversal) from another insider source back in October 2007. This man was also a scientist who regretted relaying bad news. ("We're all going to be in for a very hard time", he reported.)

The first event this man reported was a forthcoming 1859-scale CME. He again confirmed this to me privately this March, stating that as best as was predicted, we would start to experience extreme solar events round about this coming December-January. He said that it was not fully known to what extent this event would compromise electronics and the grid.

This scientist, a physicist whose name quite a few on this forum would recognize, has a Top Secret clearance working for the Department of Homeland Security. (Yes, you read that right! Go figure.)

[mountain_jim]

This video is also currently the top-ranked thread at ATS - about 38+ pages, but I am not going to read thru that to see if any value has been added there.

[Molope]

Sometimes i think that seeing things like this i say to myself how it is possible that we have so many threats all going against us its like humanity its already doomed or was doomed from the beggining.Im feeling kinda hopeless because im sure the goverments wont do anything to stop whats coming because if they are leaving the planet or hiding then they are leaving us the rest of the humans to die basically.

Sorry for my negativity.

Best wishes Molope.

[K626]

Sometimes i think that seeing things like this i say to myself how it is possible that we have so many threats all going against us its like humanity its already doomed or was doomed from the beggining.Im feeling kinda hopeless because im sure the goverments wont do anything to stop whats coming because if they are leaving the planet or hiding then they are leaving us the rest of the humans to die basically.

Sorry for my negativity.

Best wishes Molope.

But we're still here. :)

love

K

[bogeyman]

We are lock in a cycle of negativity and fear, through many channels, just look at the media. But light will prevail so will mankind, we are apart of something far greater.

[Mark]

He looks up and to the left, a lot, when he is introducing himself and giving his creds, also when he is speaking about the event itself. He looks up and to the right when he is clearly accessing memory and directly at the camera when he is speaking from his heart. Up and to the left, for a right-handed person, is accessing the creative part of the mind, what those fluent in body-language would consider lie-indicating eye movement. Also, at times, it sounds like he is reading from a script written by a bad MLM guru.

With all of that said, I cannot and will not call the man a liar. The information makes a lot of sense. What he shares regarding the magnetic pole shift and the Van Allen belts is highly speculative at best, as no one has direct evidence of what exactly would happen outside of the ancient examples he gave, so, their guess is as good as anyone's with access to the same data. This information does fit well with many of the weather and tectonic shifts occurring and the correlation between earth's magnetism, electricity and human emotions and mental states is also very well connected scientifically. There is definitely something here. I'd also like to find out more about who this guy is.

[ROMANWKT]

London is celebrating the end of the Olympics, but being daily here on London roads, I see a country closing shop, they are not getting ready for a future they are literally shutting shop, England. Check out Europe, its going on every where, all kept up with printing of money that they know will never be paid back, but just keep propping up the system till something they know lets loose.

regards
roman

[CD7]

All i have to say is...the source of the message is unknown

[ThePythonicCow]

A bit of off the wall speculation: Perhaps he's real, as Bill perceives, but perhaps the unknown beings on the other end of this "conversation" were right here on Planet Earth and are amongst the small group of (more or less) humans who can control what HAARP is used for and what it reports.

In other words ... some among the bastards in power here have HAARP used to report to some NASA scientists, in the form described here, the information relayed to us here, about magnetic pole shifts and massive die offs. They expect it will end up leaking out, sooner or later, in some form or other. Just another example of injecting energy and story lines into the milieu, which they seem so fond of doing.

[Tarka the Duck]

Mmmm….he's Italian eh? Born in Rome? Then why the Spanish accent? He is definitely not Italian. Listen at 11.10 - he pronounces the "v" in observation as a "b" which no Italian speaker would do. His intonation and timbre of his speech is Spanish, not Italian.

Why lie about that?

At 23:10 he says "we" have been certain of our assessment for over a year now - if there is any truth to this (IF...) then there must be many other scientists involved in the same project who could verify this.

Wonder where they are?

The "evidence" found on Steels Mountain, Oregon is highly disputed, and not generally held to be proof of a rapid geo-magnetic pole shift that only took a few years as opposed to thousands of years. From the Science News magazine: ....the theory, based on rocks at Steens Mountain, Ore., has never gained widespread acceptance in the paleomagnetism community.

I don't know about you, but I find he is certainly not speaking with the authority, understanding, language or demeanour that I would associate with a high level scientist.

I'm sure he's a lovely man, but I am utterly disregarding this information. More of that pathetic fear mongering...watch the birdie, folks :eyebrows:

[MorningSong]

WOW.... thanks for this heads up, Unified Serenity!

I found this before even watching the video ( while waiting for it to download to my computer..) It is mentioned at the 24 min mark of the video:

http://www.tethers.com/hivolt.html


Summary:
The space radiation environment presents a significant impediment to both human and robotic exploration and development of space. The Earth’s magnetic field traps high energy charged particles generated by cosmic rays, solar storms, and other processes, forming the “Van Allen” belts. The high fluxes of energetic particles in the radiation belts will rapidly damage electronic and biological systems in these regions unless extraordinary and expensive measures are taken to harden or shield against these particles. Even with hardening measures, the lifetime and reliability of space systems is often limited by the steady degradation caused by very energetic particles. Under funding from NASA's Institute for Advanced Concepts, TUI is currently investigating a novel concept for remediating the radiation belts to improve the safety and reliability of manned and unmanned missions in Earth orbit. The High Voltage Orbiting Long Tether (HiVOLT) System, illustrated in Figure 1 below, will utilize long, lightweight, conducting structures deployed in the radiation belts and charged to very high voltages to scatter the energetic radiation particles, causing them to leave the radiation belts. Preliminary analyses indicate that a HiVOLT System can reduce the MeV particle flux in the inner electron belt to 1% of its natural levels within about two months.

http://www.tethers.com/WebImages/RadiationBelts3.jpg

[Unified Serenity]

I just found this at "Ye old false flag (http://yeoldefalseflag.com/thread-dr-sal-s-warning-have-we-made-contact-nasa-scientist-comes-clean)" site:


Im having some difficulties with my homework on this guy. He said his name was Dr. Salvadore Conte after some searching Im finding no one conected to NASA with this name. I have found a Dr.Salvatore Conte, MD one in the Bronx and one in NJ.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I did find a
ALBERTO CONTI

Dr. Alberto Conti is an Astronomer and the NASA Multimission Archive Scientist at the Space Telescope Science Institute, known widely as MAST, in Baltimore, MD, located at the Johns Hopkins University campus, home to the Hubble Space Telescope and the development of the James Webb Space Telescope. He is well known for his work on Galaxy Formation and numerous pieces of work on sky survey data.

Dr. Conti has been a leader in developing data mining tools to deliver Optical and UV data to the astronomical community as part of MAST for the past 8 years. As Hubble Chief Engineer he was responsible for the Data Management System of the Hubble Space Telescope. He is currently the project manager for the MAST/GALEX survey: the largest ongoing space-based UV mission.

Dr. Conti has been an early proponent of the use of modern data mining and visualization techniques across the astronomical community. Many will recognize him as the co-creator of the GoogleSky concept and a team member of Microsoft's World Wide Telescope.

See what you can find.

So, let's do our usual digging and see if we can find out more on this guy.

[Bill Ryan]

Mmmm….he's Italian eh? Born in Rome? Then why the Spanish accent? He is definitely not Italian. Listen at 11.10 - he pronounces the "v" in observation as a "b" which no Italian speaker would do. His intonation and timbre of his speech is Spanish, not Italian.



Not a Spanish accent.

His profile is here:

https://plus.google.com/103075040831622434250/about

http://projectavalon.net/Dr_Salvatore_Conti_profile.gif

[K626]

Mmmm….he's Italian eh? Born in Rome? Then why the Spanish accent? He is definitely not Italian. Listen at 11.10 - he pronounces the "v" in observation as a "b" which no Italian speaker would do. His intonation and timbre of his speech is Spanish, not Italian.

Why lie about that?

At 23:10 he says "we" have been certain of our assessment for over a year now - if there is any truth to this (IF...) then there must be many other scientists involved in the same project who could verify this.

Wonder where they are?

The "evidence" found on Steels Mountain, Oregon is highly disputed, and not generally held to be proof of a rapid geo-magnetic pole shift that only took a few years as opposed to thousands of years. From the Science News magazine: ....the theory, based on rocks at Steens Mountain, Ore., has never gained widespread acceptance in the paleomagnetism community.

I don't know about you, but I find he is certainly not speaking with the authority, understanding, language or demeanour that I would associate with a high level scientist.

I'm sure he's a lovely man, but I am utterly disregarding this information. More of that pathetic fear mongering...watch the birdie, folks :eyebrows:

Agree with all of that.

K

[ROMANWKT]

I think just about everybody has the Nasa shot of the 12 mile tether that broke loose, it was all over the web which we all downloaded, did he as others not see the hundreds of space ship checking what that floating strip was?

regards
roman

[Tarka the Duck]

Not a Spanish accent.

His profile is here:

https://plus.google.com/103075040831622434250/posts

If one considers what is shown on this profile to be true, then one would expect an Italian accent. His accent is not Italian. I wonder what it is then, because to my ear, it is hispanic.
Does any other language pronounce a "v" as "b" as he does?

[Unified Serenity]

I appreciate all the thoughtful replies both pro and con. We all know I am not one to jump on any bandwagons quickly, and I certainly am not with this story. I find it very interesting, including the timing of it coming out etc.. I think if people feel it's about fear and that's all, then that is for them to deal with. I do not fear the future no matter the scenario because I know I am a spiritual being having a physical experience and those are not just words for me. I truly live it and feel it. It does not mean, I don't like my physical experience (Well some of them anyway, LOL), but I don't get all bothered by the physical world either. I watch, look and listen, and right now, I want to listen to those on this forum who are astute in this area of science and life experience. I don't consider a communication from an actual place channelling. I consider channelling something no one can verify and which only the channeller can give the message. If any person can sit at a console and record a message coming in on some physical device they are recording and analyzing data. I find that much more believable than someone closing their eyes or whatever and speaking words or writing. I know for the person experiencing it, that it feels very real, but it cannot be verified or heard by others. I speak from direct experience and thus, I understand how personal such an event is, but I am looking for proof or as much as can be obtained as proof.

No disrespect is intended here.

¤=[Post Update]=¤





Not a Spanish accent.

His profile is here:

https://plus.google.com/103075040831622434250/posts

If one considers what is shown on this profile to be true, then one would expect an Italian accent. His accent is not Italian. I wonder what it is then, because to my ear, it is hispanic.

How on earth do we even know that's this guys page? And if it is his page, how do we know it's truthful? I know I know, ever the naysayer. Vetting is much more proof than a google social site.

[bogeyman]

I just found this at "Ye old false flag (http://yeoldefalseflag.com/thread-dr-sal-s-warning-have-we-made-contact-nasa-scientist-comes-clean)" site:


Im having some difficulties with my homework on this guy. He said his name was Dr. Salvadore Conte after some searching Im finding no one conected to NASA with this name. I have found a Dr.Salvatore Conte, MD one in the Bronx and one in NJ.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I did find a
ALBERTO CONTI

Dr. Alberto Conti is an Astronomer and the NASA Multimission Archive Scientist at the Space Telescope Science Institute, known widely as MAST, ...
See what you can find.

So, let's do our usual digging and see if we can find out more on this guy.

It would make what he is saying more credible if documents are provided regarding where he worked and his qualifications, the basics such as employment records are standard forms for any government position. At least then we have a base to work from, and it is check able, documents can be faked obviously. Ive search Yale online site for his name, no luck.

[greybeard]

It seems the further away (distance) a message comes from, the more credibility we give to it.
Regardless I would be inclined to look at crop circles.
The circles have appeared with conjunctions etc and possible changes to our Sun Earth and the Milky Way.
There is no doubt that Governments are expecting something.
As pointed out ---No one would spend trillions on underground "cities" if they did not have good reason to do so.

[MorningSong]

Here's this...coincidence?


ELEASE : 12-272


New NASA Mission Ready to Brave Earth's Radiation Belts


WASHINGTON -- NASA's Radiation Belt Storm Probes (RBSP) mission will send two spacecraft into the harsh environment of our planet's radiation belts. Final preparations have begun for launch on Thursday, Aug. 23, from Florida's Space Coast.

The RBSP spacecraft are designed to fly and operate in the heart of the most hazardous regions of near-Earth space to collect crucial data. The data will help researchers develop an understanding of the Van Allen radiation belts, two rings of very high energy electrons and protons that can pose hazards to human and robotic explorers.

...
RBSP will help scientists understand how the invisible radiation belts -- named for James Van Allen, who discovered them -- behave and react to changes in the sun, thereby contributing to Earth's space weather. Space weather is caused in great part by the sun's influence on Earth and near-Earth space, including solar events such as giant eruptions of solar material called coronal mass ejections.

...
The mission will last two years. The spacecraft, carrying the best and most comprehensive instrumentation ever sent into the radiation belts, will fly through surging and swelling belts of energized particles that would damage ordinary spacecraft. By using a pair of probes flying in highly elliptical orbits, scientists will be able to study the radiation belts over space and time, learn how particles within the belts are produced and behave during space weather events, and what mechanisms drive the acceleration of the particles.

...
More here: http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2012/aug/HQ_12-272_RBSP_L-14.html

[Unified Serenity]

It seems the further away (distance) a message comes from, the more credibility we give to it.
Regardless I would be inclined to look at crop circles.
The circles have appeared with conjunctions etc and possible changes to our Sun Earth and the Milky Way.
There is no doubt that Governments are expecting something.
As pointed out ---No one would spend trillions on underground "cities" if they did not have good reason to do so.

Interesting perspective, I do recall several that could point to the van allen belt, not sure how I look them up quickly. There was the obvious one that seemed to point to DNA, but was it about a change or just theirs vs ours? Good thought Greybeard.

¤=[Post Update]=¤


Here's this...coincidence?


http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2012/aug/HQ_12-272_RBSP_L-14.html

I'm beyond accepting "coincidences" anymore. There are way too many false flags, manipulations etc going on right now to push the people into a direction of panic, fear, and chaos. This is very interesting, thanks, and good find!

[M6*]

Just finished watching this. Not quite sure what to make of it either. M6*

[MorningSong]

RE: His accent.... I teach highschool ESL (English as a Second Language) here in Northern Italy and this man sounds very much like my colleagues who have learned American English (as opposed to British English).

Just a thought: with all the Mexicans in the US now, he may speak more Spanish in daily life than Italian having lived in Texas for the past 19 years and all.... Afterall, he did immigrate to the US at age of 20 in 1969... a loooong time ago.... And, Romans do use the "b" instead of the "v" and have other strange pronounciation (as do the Toscans who use a gutteral "h" sound instead of the "c" sound) ....just saying....

[Unified Serenity]

Thanks Bill for that update. I see it is a google site, I am still looking for something at NASA. I appreciate all the digging. This guy should have a history of some kind online, though there are some cave dwellers who have managed to not venture much online, particularly older adults.

[MorningSong]

I snitched this from ATS... by "Janus", posted at lunaticoutpost.com:


They misinterpreted the message a little.
The field is going to flip as the equatorial bulge of earth
reacts to gravitation pressure in flux. (pole shift)

The Van Allen belt (as he calls i) cannot 'fall' unless the
earth stops. It won't stop. It will continue on it's path
around the sun, but roll continually and in exponential spiral,
till it is in opposite spin. The electromagnetic
field will flip, causing arc flash, high winds, flooding of
coastlines, and the complete failure of all electricity,
as our grids are built to operate by energizing the electron
in atoms that make up copper, gold etc.

The electron will be something else. Atomic values will
change, as they are affected by the electromagnetic
field and gravitational pressure or 'signals'

...
More here: http://lunaticoutpost.com/Topic-VA-belt-collapse-full-magnetic-reversal-summer-2016?pid=3946690#pid3946690

[Vitalux]

It is enough to make you wanna schit your pants :pout:

http://i1023.photobucket.com/albums/af356/stuarburstphotography/aparanoid.jpg



:behindsofa::juggle::violin::usa2::bored::rain::suspicious::

[Flash]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alberto_Conti check this

Italian and American citizenship

Not a Spanish accent I agree, but a veeeery well worked out slight latin accent (Italians raised in Italy are usually much worse at speaking English) - definitely not French and not Portuguese either nor Romanian, therefore.... Italian

http://lifeboat.com/board/alberto.conti.jpg

This above is Dr Conti. My problem is that is does not seem to be the same guy. Check at the nose in the video vs the picture. Some face analysts here???? If it is deemed to be the same guy, then I will check if he is saying the truth in the non verbal. But if it is the same guy, his reputation will be sooo tarnished in the scientific community after this that there is no reason for telling lies.

If it is an imposter, he has to be called off. Dr Conti should have received thousands of calls by now, any denials anywhere on the Web?

Rakhyt, you are right in the basic premises in the non verbal but have it wront in the left vs right of the eye direction.

A web site of an organisation Dr Conti is part of:
Lifeboat foundation, safeguarding Humanity


Here another picture:

http://philsoc.org/2011Fall/AlbertoConti.JPG

[Bill Ryan]

I snitched this from ATS... by "Janus", posted at lunaticoutpost.com:


They misinterpreted the message a little.
The field is going to flip as the equatorial bulge of earth
reacts to gravitation pressure in flux. (pole shift)

The Van Allen belt (as he calls i) cannot 'fall' unless the
earth stops. It won't stop. It will continue on it's path
around the sun, but roll continually and in exponential spiral,
till it is in opposite spin. The electromagnetic
field will flip, causing arc flash, high winds, flooding of
coastlines, and the complete failure of all electricity,
as our grids are built to operate by energizing the electron
in atoms that make up copper, gold etc.

The electron will be something else. Atomic values will
change, as they are affected by the electromagnetic
field and gravitational pressure or 'signals'

...
More here: http://lunaticoutpost.com/Topic-VA-belt-collapse-full-magnetic-reversal-summer-2016?pid=3946690#pid3946690



Nonsense.

Back to the serious discussion, please. :)



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alberto_Conti


It's not Alberto Conti. It's Sal(vatore) Conti.

A request to all (with no disrespect intended to anyone): please be pretty sure of what you're posting before you contribute. Otherwise, this thread will soon expand to 40 pages and the really important posts will be lost in the noise -- and the long thread, despite all good intentions, will become a deterrent for others to read.

[Unified Serenity]

I snitched this from ATS... by "Janus", posted at lunaticoutpost.com:



thx, I'm snitching it too...good info to add.

[Unified Serenity]

Why is it nonsense Bill? I know for those in the know, it's probably elementary, but again, I am not a scientist in this area at all. My speciality is energetics, metalurgy, woodwork, gardening, healing, business and hmmmmm oh research, duh.

[Unified Serenity]

Not sure if you will allow this Bill or Paul, but Druscilla at ATS posted this, and seems to add some hmmm to the topic:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread870306/pg2 about half way down the page



...
Thus, predictions like the one framed in the OP have next to zero validity, other than the fact that the planet Earth is geologically active, and as long as Earth is geologically active, we will continue to have earthquakes, volcanoes, tsunamis, and other natural disasters caused by the earth moving and changing as it's expected to do.

More at above link.

[Bill Ryan]

Why is it nonsense Bill? I know for those in the know, it's probably elementary, but again, I am not a scientist in this area at all. My speciality is energetics, metalurgy, woodwork, gardening, healing, business and hmmmmm oh research, duh.

Nonsense science in red (quite a lot of it!):





They misinterpreted the message a little.
The field is going to flip as the equatorial bulge of earth
reacts to gravitation pressure in flux. (pole shift)

The Van Allen belt (as he calls i) cannot 'fall' unless the
earth stops. It won't stop. It will continue on it's path
around the sun, but roll continually and in exponential spiral,
till it is in opposite spin. The electromagnetic
field will flip, causing arc flash, high winds, flooding of
coastlines, and the complete failure of all electricity,
as our grids are built to operate by energizing the electron
in atoms that make up copper, gold etc.

The electron will be something else. Atomic values will
change, as they are affected by the electromagnetic
field and gravitational pressure or 'signals'

Summer of 2016, is probably about right, about when
the point of no return of the equatorial bulge has reached
apex, and then begins it's reverse restabilization process.
It's a matter of pressure to mass of different densities.

There is nothing they can do. Putting drain straps on
satellites will only increase the amount of harmful radiation
to people on the earth from the sun.

The movie he mentioned was The Core. Great movie
Stanley Tucci, Hillary Swank, Aaron Ekhart.
The project the movie featured was Destini. I found it
odd that he used the word toward the end of the vid.

Whoever those aliens are, they better realize, the higher
up the people, with the most money to communicate, the
dumber they are.

A third of all life will die, not 80%.
My message remains the same, do not go underground.
Disturbances to the earth's crust will be greater than
any man made hardening.

If a message was sent three times, from a 331 based
communication, it's real. Luciferians are numerologists.
they know the meaning of the numbers and could fake it.

Learn to cook by campfire.

[MorningSong]

Out of context, everything is nonsense...sorry 'bout that.

[K626]

We are diamonds in the mud.
We are part of the universe and we are on a journey, if not a full blown quest.

We are one with the logos and we participate in the further dreams of the universe itself. In short we are ONE. The universe is not fixing to wipe any number of us out. The unfolding is the knowing, the droplets of memory filtered by light. Fear cannot hold us and has failed totally thus far in all contexts. Man has overcome at every turn and someitmes against vast odds.

Love

K

[bogeyman]

With security regulations, and the consequences, why would this Dr risk a good job, and his career? He would know the consequences of violating security regulations, it is under the preview of espionage, Homeland Security regs, EOs etc. Surely he wouldn't leak information and let his identity be known, you would use a 2nd or 3rd party, and the information wouldn't be too specific other wise it can be backed track to the source, since everything is compartment and a "need to know". Any way as a security check a polygraph would be used at random. This is what surprises me with all these revelations and leaks, its too fishy, these people are checked for the highest level of security clearances, they have psychological checks, they have special background checks as well by the FBI, they don't just leak, not without consent. It is easier to hide a lie in between two truths. Misinformation or disinformation? Sometimes you can obtain good information other than directly from the primary source. Tim Wiener in his book Blank Check, did just this, he found the amount of resources and money for the so called "Black Budget", by using his investigation skills, to obtain open source information and the FOIA for other pertinent materials, and places them all together and created a picture.

[synaxis]

Another concern is what happens to our minds when these changes occur. Like he said, we may be experiencing the beginnings of this already. Are there any studies out that have shown the affects of quick magnetic changes on humans, animals or plants?

This is the point that caught my attention - where he starts talking about the psychological affects of magnetic field shifts - which he suggests may be starting even now. This does not appear to be an area in which he has expertise.

At about 21:10, he says "Let me just throw this in ... [pointing at camera] ... Have you noticed how many cases of normal people suddenly going crazy and doing unthinkable things are happening lately? It all makes sense .... There are certainly no zombies. But I believe that some of the weakest, most vulnerable minds are already being affected by the earliest, slightest magnetic disturbances."

He seems to be alluding here to the recent mass shooting in Aurora, Colorado. But no information he gave about his education or training indicates that he has a basis for making such an extrapolation, i.e. from slight magnetic disturbances (which may be occurring even now) to such an event. As a consequence, this part of his presentation comes across as a kind of fear-mongering without a scientific basis.

[Adi]

...My problem is that is does not seem to be the same guy. Check at the nose in the video vs the picture.
...

1: Shape of the mans nose in the picture is different to the Dr Sal's in the video.
2: Dr Sal has quiet a prominent dark mole on the left side of his cheek, this man in your picture, does not.

The human mind interprets different faces by there shape and structure. That is how we can remember our mothers face from our sisters face, ect. If you look at the facial shape and structure of Dr Sal and the individual in your pictures, you can clearly see they are not the same.

Adi

[Flash]

Bill, i will refer you to your own post, at the bottom: other name: Sal conti post 70


If I do not check for myself, I may as well go on the channelling threads and stay there.

Seriously, how many astro-physicist, Italian, working at Nasa, doing what exactly the work described in the video is there? Salvatore and Alberto??? Unless they are twins, I bet there is just one working at Nasa in science under the name of Conti or Conte and born and raised in Italy.

It seem that he took Alberto's credential and created something interesting with it.

From ATS:
Dr Sal's Warning, page 22





www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread870306/pg22





Block all www.abovetopsecret.com results


17 posts - 9 authors - 17 hours ago
I found some papers written by a conti, S along with other researchers on the ... Also, the name sergio is used which is likely a different alias.. maybe a pen name. .... what his middle initial could be, but I did find two matches for "Salvatore Conti" .... things he is saying run contrary to what we know of physics and astronomy.

It is fine Bill, I won't research it anylonger.

By the way, I did not say you were wrong or nothing will happen, I did just say this dude may be a fake.

Adi, that is precisely what I am saying those ARE NOT the same guy. The real astronomere is the one in the pictures, with a different name, Alberto and not Salvatore or Sal. The second in the video is, in my idea, an imposter.

[bogeyman]

I hope this Dr grabbed some insurance as well to back up his story. Other wise the powers that be will plug the leaks internally and that is the end of the story, if true that is.

[Mark]

Ok, in trying to figure out where this dude was coming from, perhaps something related to the following was his line of thinking:

The newest theories in physics state that gravity as a weak force is an effect of the 'brane within which we exist interacting with others and with the source of gravitation, which exists beyond our universe and our experience of it is only partial compared to its full force wherever its origin might be.

Beyond that, any shifts in gravitation that occur simultaneous to a magnetic pole shift could affect the actual physical matter on the planet, as well as electromagnetism (as it is affected by gravitation) and which could potentially affect any metals in the earth itself and upon the earth, which could in turn lead to tectonic shifting and volcanic pressure release.

The atomic value (number) stuff is pure alchemy. And not the spiritual type. Changing the values is equivalent to changing its properties, making it something else altogether.

The equatorial bulge stuff has to do with the spin of the earth, it's not a perfect circle, it's a geoid, and it's wide at the middle because of its rotation on its axis, according to the most popular theory. I'm not exactly sure what he's talking about here unless he is speaking about some sort of mass movement of earth mass to the equator, causing the bulge to increase, which might be related to the first paragraphs above, if the theories being put forth regarding the nature of gravity now are accurate.

All of the pole shift theories I've ever seen talk about the ice caps melting and destabilizing the planet as being the most probable cause of a physical pole shift, or some massive astronomical body passing close to the earth.

The forces at work within the planet's interior are massive, the pressures are beyond imagining if the current model of the earth and its internal composition are true and the core is a giant metallic and crystalline ball surrounded by a molten region. Anybody who plans to go down there when things get iffy on the surface must have quite a bit of faith in human technology.

[SilentFeathers]

With security regulations, and the consequences, why would this Dr risk a good job, and his career?

If Dr Conti had recorded his message anonymously, on audio only, maybe with his voice changed with an audio filter, can you imagine how people would ridicule it?

The dismissal from quite a few folks (who simply do not want to believe anything like this) is discouraging enough as it is -- even though he's stated his credentials and left his face and voice unchanged.

What more should the guy do? :)

After doing this it is highly likely he doesn't work at NASA anymore. I for one Bill, do NOT want to believe this, especially being a father. This is "deadly" news if true, which it may or may not be. People don't want to hear that they and all their loved ones are most likely going to be snuffed out.

It is true that many things going on over the past several years could really make this scenario very likely (seed vault, underground bases/colonies, Elites cashing in, etc) that would cause many to believe this guy and his story. Most of us here on this forum know something BIG is gonna happen, most likely soon too. 2016 is rather sooner than later in my opinion.

I find a scenario like this quite possible but I am hesitant to bite the hook on this one so to speak, mainly due to seeing one story after another like this coming out almost on a daily basis it seems lately, claiming the end of the world or ELE type scenarios. This year especially has been full of "hard to believe" stories....people like Sal are coming out of the woodwork at the speed of light it seems lately.

This "new" claim needs some more research for sure and crossed examined big time.

Watching him speak I did think of the Hopi purification prophecy and some other ancient prophecies that somewhat align with a type of event that could be dove-tailed with this......

it'll take a bit more convincing for me to believe this Sal dude though :)

[Vitalux]

In my opinion, this is just another example of Avalon's bi-yearly end of the world dramas.:drama:

Every single end of the world prediction and scenario from this website has proven to be false. All prediction of disasters were duds

Bill Ryan, due to his numerous misfires, has a pretty good track record for backing duds. Therefore I don't take too seriously his stamp of approval for truth.


However, no matter how many times the Jester :jester: come out saying " The World is ending! The world is ending!"
The vast majority eats it up like Mac Donald's french fries.

Well...now that I said my piece, let us all go back and eat more fear of dying.


Myself I am just going to love :luv: rather than to fear:pout:

[bogeyman]

I remember reading that in the 1960s or late 1950s the US military for a reason I cannot recall at present, wanted to blast a hole in the ozone layer, it got the go ahead through the military channels to the highest level, it was only the President that stopped it. So I have an open mind on these on all sorts of military and government projects, regardless of how off beat or bizarre, but I am cautious about these matters.

[Unified Serenity]

I am thankful for all the thoughtful posts. Yes, it is very true we keep getting these posts / vids of seemingly knowledgeable well some are some are not about upcoming events. I personally don't believe anything other than hurricanes and earthquakes, false flag events will be happening in 2012. I will not simply dismiss any new report just because of all the other bs ones. I think we have some pretty good investigators on this site, and flash, I hope you still dig, because you are obviously pretty well skilled in it.

If this guy is legit, he will either be in perpetual hiding or dead soon imho. If he is a liar he will get his 15 minutes of fame and then after thousands of posts it will die down and disappear. My view is watch, listen and verify. That's the only reason I posted this here. I believe we have some sound scientific minds and I don't care if Bill has backed donkeys in the past, he has valid experience and insights and whether I agree or disagree with someone, I'd be a fool to not hear them out if they have pertinent information to share.

[ghostrider]

I was in the Army 1986-1990 , my job was nuclear biological chemical warfare. The only protection from radiation is DISTANCE. If the amount of rads you recieve per hour is over the safe level, you will not survive. I don't care what anyone says, you wont survive. You have two hours to get to a safe distance from the radiation that will be carried by wind, and contaminate water, and the ground , you can't drink the water or touch the ground. This is a model for radiation exposure at a ground zero point, meaning it was focused in a specific area, when you talk of a GLOBAL covering of the entire planet with radiation, ... nothing will survive, no plant, no animal , no humans, no single cell , and it will take years for something like this to disperse and even then the ground and the water will take even longer to return to safe levels for life. I dont know much about what is talked about on the forum, I can't spell worth a dam, I don't post videos I'm not that skilled in computers, but when it comes to nuclear, or chemical warfare/protection, I know what I'm saying . How many people survived hiroshima at ground zero ? imagine that all over the earth without the big boom fireball , in the Army we called it silent death, you can't see it, taste it , or touch it, but it's there. If ET is correct , it's game over. If ET is wrong , nothing will happen. I wonder is this group of ET's is running low on fear energy , what better way to power up than spook the caveman humans on earth. It does bring the underground cities into play, and our governments lack of interest in anything but their own lives.

[Star Tsar]

All i have to say is...the source of the message is unknown


Yes very good point christinedream.
Perhaps the Atlantean renegades are try to break the Etheric Barrier/Ouroboros and leave their quarantine?


:bolt:

[ulli]

The essential point he is making is not so much that there will be an earth-shattering event ....
Or he would have stopped there.
But he went on to say at the end that humanity needs to unite in the face of such danger...
And to make it through that event people need to put aside their different religious beliefs
and focus on one single belief in one single God...

In other words, he is calling for a new world religion.

[ThePythonicCow]

The only protection from radiation is DISTANCE. If the amount of rads you recieve per hour is over the safe level, you will not survive. I don't care what anyone says, you wont survive. You have two hours to get to a safe distance from the radiation that will be carried by wind, and contaminate water, and the ground , you can't drink the water or touch the ground. This is a model for radiation exposure at a ground zero point, meaning it was focused in a specific area, when you talk of a GLOBAL covering of the entire planet with radiation, ... nothing will survive, no plant, no animal , no humans, no single cell , and it will take years for something like this to disperse and even then the ground and the water will take even longer to return to safe levels for life.
Doesn't that depend on how much radiation? It is not a binary condition - either kill everything, or zero radiation. We experience radiation from the sun and from elsewhere in space all the time - just not enough to usually cause noticeable harm.

And isn't shielding, of appropriate material and depth, useful? Otherwise how could technicians manage nuclear reactors? They are too close ... but protected by serious shielding.

[ROMANWKT]

If we can prove that this guy is genuine, then I will take it all back, and we better start taking this seriously, the guy was pouring his heart out, but for me it did not tally, I don't know why.

regards
roman

[Snoweagle]

We already know there is going to be a magnetic pole shift, so consideration of confirmation from "far off" and "advanced" super beings is irrelevant. Pole shifts have been known to occur for hundreds of years with varying degrees of impact on Earth. So no big deal.

Why is it that all these super beings from advanced races in the darkest parts of some unknown galaxy always communicate in English? Of course I realise Sali is an Applied Mathematics professional (confirmation needed) and mathematics is the universal language of everything (supposedly), so how come the cypher developed to interpret those signals (and retransmit) had become so proficient to broadcast such a complex message as portrayed by Sali?

The van Allen belts will NOT collapse to the surface of earth. The Earths magnetism is a derivative of GRAVITY. Electricity (both scalar and commercial) is a derivative of MAGNETISM. So no matter the speed of pole reversal gravity will remain the same throughout and everything electrical will be impacted including life forms, us.

Being vague for the source troubles me. The use of HAARP as well, personally rings bells and at this moment I find that difficult to believe. But, assuming HAARP was used then how do we know this actually off world transmissions in the first place?

The Earth cannot possibly be alone in experiencing pole reversal, other bodies in the solar system will be affected and little is mentioned about the position of the Solar System in respect of its position in the spiral arm of the Milky Way that promotes this problem in the first place, something that should have been considered IMO during Sali's presentation. Am sure the aliens noticed:-)

With reagrd DUMBS, China has just completed the largest underground nuclear test ever. Thats going to leave a whacking great hole to build an underground shelter.

And 2016 is the thousand year anniversary of the building of Solomons Temple.

Whether whistleblower or otherwise, Sali IMO has brought nothing to the table that isn't already known. Frustrating us all with unverifiable sources and from an institution that courts conspiracy controversy at each announcement. Now he has disappeared. I really do think, if you are going to commit to revelation then you dump the mother lobe of data into the public arena as an offset to being made dead.

For my part, am equipped for the pole reversal: deck chair, sunglasses and snorkel. Of course posting to Avalon in real time as it happens.

[Hervé]

Here is a Wikipedia summary as to why a magnetic pole inversion would ensure a collapse of the Van Allen Radiation Belt:

Magnetic field (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth)


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/44/Structure_of_the_magnetosphere_mod.svg/300px-Structure_of_the_magnetosphere_mod.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Structure_of_the_magnetosphere_mod.svg)
Schematic of Earth's magnetosphere. The solar wind (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_wind) flows from left to right




Main article: Earth's magnetic field (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth%27s_magnetic_field)
The Earth's magnetic field (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth%27s_magnetic_field) is shaped roughly as a magnetic dipole (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_dipole), with the poles currently located proximate to the planet's geographic poles.

[...]

According to dynamo theory (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamo_theory), the field is generated within the molten outer core region where heat creates convection motions of conducting materials, generating electric currents. These in turn produce the Earth's magnetic field. The convection movements in the core are chaotic; the magnetic poles drift and periodically change alignment. This results in field reversals (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geomagnetic_reversal) at irregular intervals averaging a few times every million years. The most recent reversal occurred approximately 700,000 years ago.[125] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth#cite_note-fitzpatrick2006-136)[126] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth#cite_note-campbelwh-137)

The field forms the magnetosphere (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetosphere), which deflects particles in the solar wind (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_wind). The sunward edge of the bow shock (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bow_shock) is located at about 13 times the radius of the Earth. The collision between the magnetic field and the solar wind forms the Van Allen radiation belts (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van_Allen_radiation_belt), a pair of concentric, torus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torus)-shaped regions of energetic charged particles (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charged_particle). When the plasma (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasma_(physics)) enters the Earth's atmosphere at the magnetic poles, it forms the aurora (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aurora_(astronomy)).[127] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth#cite_note-stern2005-138)

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What generates the scenario put forth in the video is this:

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South Atlantic Anomaly (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Atlantic_Anomaly)

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bc/ROSAT_SAA.gif/350px-ROSAT_SAA.gif (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:ROSAT_SAA.gif)
The anomaly at an altitude of approximately 560 kilometers[1] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Atlantic_Anomaly#cite_note-ROSAT-0)


The South Atlantic Anomaly (SAA) is an area where the Earth's inner Van Allen radiation belt (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van_Allen_radiation_belt) comes closest to the Earth (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth)'s surface dipping down to an altitude of 200km (124mi). This leads to an increased flux (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flux) of energetic particles in this region and exposes orbiting satellites to higher than usual levels of radiation. The effect is caused by the non-concentricity (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concentric) of the Earth and its magnetic dipole (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dipole), and the SAA is the near-Earth region where the Earth's magnetic field (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth%27s_magnetic_field) is weakest.

Position and shape
The Van Allen radiation belts are symmetric about the Earth's magnetic axis, which is tilted with respect to the Earth's rotational axis by an angle of ~11 degrees. The intersection between the magnetic and rotation axes of the Earth is located ~500 kilometres (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kilometre) (300 mi (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mile)) more to the North, above the centre of the Earth. Because of this tilt and translation, the inner Van Allen belt is closest to the Earth's surface over the south Atlantic ocean where it dips down to 200km (124mi) altitude, and farthest from the Earth's surface over the north Pacific ocean.[2] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Atlantic_Anomaly#cite_note-1)


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6d/South_Atlantic_Anomaly.svg/350px-South_Atlantic_Anomaly.svg.png (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:South_Atlantic_Anomaly.svg)
A cross-sectional view of the Van Allen radiation belts, noting the point where the South Atlantic Anomaly occurs

The highest intensity portion of the SAA drifts to the west at a speed of about 0.3 degrees per year, and is noticeable in the references listed below. The drift rate of the SAA is very close to the rotation differential between the Earth's core (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Structure_of_the_Earth#Core) and its surface, estimated to be between 0.3 and 0.5 degrees per year.

Current literature suggests that a slow weakening of the geomagnetic field is one of several causes for the changes in the borders of the SAA since its discovery. As the geomagnetic field continues to weaken, the inner Van Allen belt gets closer to the Earth, with a commensurate enlargement of the SAA at given altitudes.[citation needed (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed)]

Effects
The South Atlantic Anomaly is of great significance to astronomical satellites (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satellite) and other spacecraft (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spacecraft) that orbit (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orbit) the Earth at several hundred kilometers altitude; these orbits take satellites through the anomaly periodically, exposing them to several minutes of strong radiation, caused by the trapped protons in the inner Van Allen belt. The International Space Station (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Space_Station), orbiting with an inclination (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inclination) of 51.6°, requires extra shielding to deal with this problem. The Hubble Space Telescope (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hubble_Space_Telescope) does not take observations while passing through the SAA.[5] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Atlantic_Anomaly#cite_note-4) Astronauts are also affected by this region which is said to be the cause of peculiar 'shooting stars' (phosphenes (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phosphenes)) seen in the visual field of astronauts.[6] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Atlantic_Anomaly#cite_note-AskA-5) Passing through the South Atlantic Anomaly is thought[7] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Atlantic_Anomaly#cite_note-6) to be the reason for the early failures (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Globalstar#Recent_satellite_problems) of the Globalstar (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Globalstar) network's satellites.

The PAMELA (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Payload_for_Antimatter_Matter_Exploration_and_Light-nuclei_Astrophysics) experiment, while passing through the SAA, detected antiproton (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antiproton) levels that were orders of magnitude higher than those expected from normal particle decay (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Particle_decay). This suggests the Van Allen belt confines antiparticles produced by the interaction of the Earth's upper atmosphere with cosmic rays (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmic_rays).[8] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Atlantic_Anomaly#cite_note-7)

NASA has reported that modern laptops have crashed when the space shuttle flights passed through the anomaly.[9] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Atlantic_Anomaly#cite_note-8)
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Most too often, this South Atlantic Anomaly is taken as meaning the Earth magnetic poles inversion is afoot... something which would need more evidence.

[ghostrider]

too much too fast, we already feel the effects of small CME's changing our moods. we can handle small doses of rads, but this guy is talking about the atmosphere/magnetic field breaking down allowing all that radiation to come in at once. What if it is the magnetic field that keeps oxygen on earth ? the field goes down and our air drifts up and away. this will be our sixth ectinction .

[bogeyman]

If this is a misinformation or disinformation ploy on behalf of those in power, what are the motives behind such tactics? To test the public's reaction, or to divert our attention from something else?

[ThePythonicCow]

Sali IMO has brought nothing to the table that isn't already known.
We don't know when the magnetic pole shift would be strongest, we don't know how severe its affects would be this time, and we didn't know that extraterrestrials were telling us these specifics

Now we have a claim of them telling us, providing information on the when and how severe.

[sigma6]

Oh darn, does this mean we have to wait 2 more years? I was much more hoping for a 2012 event to start getting our planet back to its good health.

Have you ever noticed that the dramatic events predicted keep getting pushed into the future?


2012, 2013, 2016, the window is still progressively getting smaller, ie. we can only push it back so far, and then I think we will either have to "sh** or get off the pot"...

[Selene]

http://lifeboat.com/board/alberto.conti.jpg

This above is Dr Conti. My problem is that is does not seem to be the same guy. Check at the nose in the video vs the picture. Some face analysts here???? If it is deemed to be the same guy, then I will check if he is saying the truth in the non verbal. But if it is the same guy, his reputation will be sooo tarnished in the scientific community after this that there is no reason for telling lies.

<snip>

Here another picture:

http://philsoc.org/2011Fall/AlbertoConti.JPG


Well, I am not an *expert* at facial identification – I have only spent about a dozen years in research identifying the sitters in Tudor portraits based on their bone structure, musculature, nasal, skull, ear, hair growth patterns, etc. And my track record there is reasonably good, if I may say so. So I will climb out on my limb, hand you the saw, and venture an opinion here.

Based only on these two photos and the man in the video, I would say they are very probably 1) the same person, 2) brothers, or 3) or father and son.

The man in the video is somewhat older – this can also happen when people prefer to post younger, more flattering photos of themselves on websites. (None of us would dream of doing that, would we?)

The differences between the man in the photos and the vid can be almost entirely accounted for by the effects of aging. Some things, however, remain constant for both:

• The overall shape of the skull, cheekbone prominences, nasolabial area, chin is the same.

• The hair growth pattern, shape of the brows, trace of mustache, etc is the same.

• The nose is the same actually, at the insertion (procerus), bridge, nasal (alar) shapes, although showing signs of normal tip drooping in the older face, and possibly? some earlier surgical intervention at the very tip. Nevertheless,

• The upper and lower eyelids are the same

• The lips are the same, albeit thinning in the older man

• The ears are the same – again, with some posterior drooping in the vid image due to age. Ears are a highly significant indicator.


Overall, the probability that the same person or a very close blood relative is depicted here is fairly high.

And secret ops employing family members of “trusted” employees is not exactly unheard of, is it? If this isn’t the same guy, he’s very close to someone at NASA….

Just my opinion.

Cheers,

Selene

[Hawkwind]

Okay, let me get this straight- NASA received a warning from an unknown alien source predicting a cataclysmic event in 2016. If we all work together, however, we should be able to survive it. ... Let me guess, part of that entails the institution of a unified world government and currency. Sorry, but if an event of this magnitude were genuinely expected by tptb and the decision had been made to keep a lid on it, this video would have been taken down within hours, if not minutes of being posted. "Silent Weapons for a Quiet War" talks about stress testing society in order to be better able to predict it's reaction to a given stimulus. This video strikes me as another stress test.

[Wind]

Interesting video, but I don't think that we will have to wait another four years for something to happen. Major changes are going to happen in less than a year, but that's just my conclusion.

[ED209]

I hate to always be the skeptic and I do love his message about how rad it would be for us all to work
together, but I can't completely buy into what he is selling. I used to be a professional interviewer. I was specifically trained to detect lies. If I had been interviewing this man, I would have written him off as a liar...at least partially. He injects off-message gripping dialogue that is draws you in with speculative fear; he spends far too much time trying to convince us of his legitimacy; and his body language and facial gestures are especially questionable while he is talking about receiving messages from aliens. He appears to be honest about who he is, what he does, and what he knows, but based on what I know about lie detecting, he is making up the part about receiving messages from aliens. I do believe he has participated in sending messages out into the universe, but I do not think he actually gets a message back. Also, he stresses that these aliens are very advanced, yet we are somehow able to understand their language about a complex cataclysm? Finally, he would do more good being candid than not. If he puts it all out there to the world, he will no longer have access to the information because he will lose his information privileges. If he were clever, he would have at least tried to hide his identity.

[cloud9]

I was in the Army 1986-1990 , my job was nuclear biological chemical warfare. The only protection from radiation is DISTANCE. If the amount of rads you recieve per hour is over the safe level, you will not survive. I don't care what anyone says, you wont survive. You have two hours to get to a safe distance from the radiation that will be carried by wind, and contaminate water, and the ground , you can't drink the water or touch the ground. This is a model for radiation exposure at a ground zero point, meaning it was focused in a specific area, when you talk of a GLOBAL covering of the entire planet with radiation, ... nothing will survive, no plant, no animal , no humans, no single cell , and it will take years for something like this to disperse and even then the ground and the water will take even longer to return to safe levels for life. I dont know much about what is talked about on the forum, I can't spell worth a dam, I don't post videos I'm not that skilled in computers, but when it comes to nuclear, or chemical warfare/protection, I know what I'm saying . How many people survived hiroshima at ground zero ? imagine that all over the earth without the big boom fireball , in the Army we called it silent death, you can't see it, taste it , or touch it, but it's there. If ET is correct , it's game over. If ET is wrong , nothing will happen. I wonder is this group of ET's is running low on fear energy , what better way to power up than spook the caveman humans on earth. It does bring the underground cities into play, and our governments lack of interest in anything but their own lives.

Have you ever seen the Galen Winsor video about radiation?

I have asked Bill about several times and I've never got any answer.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?46819-A-video-they-won-t-want-you-to-see--Galen-Winsor-nuclear-scam-

I ask about this because even though you say your work was related to radiation, after watching the video is very clear that it was a myth so strong that is very hard to get people to change their ideas about radiation. Also I have pointed several times that if radiation were a problem in the scale it's believed to be, how come we are not counting dead people from Japan by the thousands or millions? So far, nobody has dared to give me an answer.

[cloud9]

The essential point he is making is not so much that there will be an earth-shattering event ....
Or he would have stopped there.
But he went on to say at the end that humanity needs to unite in the face of such danger...
And to make it through that event people need to put aside their different religious beliefs
and focus on one single belief in one single God...

In other words, he is calling for a new world religion.

Wow! How can you say that? He says that it doesn't matter in which God you believe, at the end is the same God and regardless your religious background, we need to be united in case of a catastrophe.

Definitely every mind is a whole different universe.

[Snoweagle]

Sali IMO has brought nothing to the table that isn't already known.
We don't know when the magnetic pole shift would be strongest, we don't know how severe its affects would be this time, and we didn't know that extraterrestrials were telling us these specifics

Now we have a claim of them telling us, providing information on the when and how severe.

A magnetic pole shift is an energy transfer from one dipole to another and will transition relatively ie sinusoidally, linearly, etc
The severity is an uncertainty as our only term of reference is historical records which we know and can easily accept as predominantly flooding and these days the demise of our electrical technology. Who knows? We will have to wait and see.
Extra terrestrials? I want to believe but regretfully I am unable based on this single presentation without any means of verification to the stories background. And to correct you, we still don't know if extra terrestrials are advising NASA. A single you tube video is hardly evidence. Noteworthy for discussion maybe but hardly evidence,

[ThePythonicCow]

Sali IMO has brought nothing to the table that isn't already known.

Now we have a claim of them telling us, providing information on the when and how severe.

A magnetic pole shift is an energy transfer ...
The severity is an uncertainty ...
Extra terrestrials? I want to believe but regretfully ...
But he DID bring claims of something to the table which we did not have before.

Obviously it's your choice what credence to place in these claims.

But don't dismiss them as nothing new. That's not true.

[ulli]

The essential point he is making is not so much that there will be an earth-shattering event ....
Or he would have stopped there.
But he went on to say at the end that humanity needs to unite in the face of such danger...
And to make it through that event people need to put aside their different religious beliefs
and focus on one single belief in one single God...

In other words, he is calling for a new world religion.

Wow! How can you say that? He says that it doesn't matter in which God you believe, at the end is the same God and regardless your religious background, we need to be united in case of a catastrophe.

Definitely every mind is a whole different universe.

But that's just what I did say...
How come you interpreted something different?

[Snoweagle]

Here is a Wikipedia summary as to why a magnetic pole inversion would ensure a collapse of the Van Allen Radiation Belt:
Magnetic field (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/44/Structure_of_the_magnetosphere_mod.svg/300px-Structure_of_the_magnetosphere_mod.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Structure_of_the_magnetosphere_mod.svg)
Schematic of Earth's magnetosphere. The solar wind (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_wind) flows from left to right
Main article: Earth's magnetic field (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth%27s_magnetic_field)
The Earth's magnetic field (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth%27s_magnetic_field) is shaped roughly as a magnetic dipole (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_dipole), with the poles currently located proximate to the planet's geographic poles.
[...]
According to dynamo theory (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamo_theory), the field is generated within the molten outer core region where heat creates convection motions of conducting materials, generating electric currents. These in turn produce the Earth's magnetic field. The convection movements in the core are chaotic; the magnetic poles drift and periodically change alignment. This results in field reversals (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geomagnetic_reversal) at irregular intervals averaging a few times every million years. The most recent reversal occurred approximately 700,000 years ago.[125] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth#cite_note-fitzpatrick2006-136)[126] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth#cite_note-campbelwh-137)

The field forms the magnetosphere (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetosphere), which deflects particles in the solar wind (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_wind). The sunward edge of the bow shock (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bow_shock) is located at about 13 times the radius of the Earth. The collision between the magnetic field and the solar wind forms the Van Allen radiation belts (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van_Allen_radiation_belt), a pair of concentric, torus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torus)-shaped regions of energetic charged particles (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charged_particle). When the plasma (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasma_(physics)) enters the Earth's atmosphere at the magnetic poles, it forms the aurora (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aurora_(astronomy)).[127] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth#cite_note-stern2005-138)

The wiki article promotes the same mistruths that have bamboozled researchers for millenia. At the centre of EVERY heavenly body in ALL the spacial galaxies is a BLACK HOLE. Our ancestors could only pass on one piece of spiritual advice; passed to them by respective priests to their devoted flocks when challenged on mankinds spirituality. We have heard it so many times and had us transfixed. Physicists today are only now beginning to consider this as a possibility.
AS ABOVE SO BELOW
Restart your understanding of science by seriously considering the work of Nassim Harramein and Dr Constantin Meyl. There are many more. It is the doorway to free energy as well.

[GaelVictor]

A world faith under science, led by brothers of the white council. Who wouldn't want that..

[syrwong]

This man looks a bit suspect to me. While we have learned not to trust alien messages unskeptically, he is believing them a lot more than we do. Also wouldn't it stupid for NASA scientists to post the question of why can't the atmosphere stop the fall of the V belt, having to wait for days to get the answer when a bright school kid can produce the same reply?

[Hervé]

[...]

The wiki article promotes the same mistruths that have bamboozled researchers for millenia. At the centre of EVERY heavenly body in ALL the spacial galaxies is a BLACK HOLE.

[...]

And... so what?!

The various theories do not change observations nor instrumental measurements recorded and depicted in those wiki articles, they are just an attempt at explaining these OBSERVATIONS and MEASUREMENTS RECORDED!

[cloud9]

Wow! How can you say that? He says that it doesn't matter in which God you believe, at the end is the same God and regardless your religious background, we need to be united in case of a catastrophe.

Definitely every mind is a whole different universe.

But that's just what I did say...
How come you interpreted something different?

Because he never said anything that implied, advocated or called for a new world religion, at least believing in one God is already the NWO religion.

[ThePythonicCow]

The wiki article promotes the same mistruths that have bamboozled researchers for millenia. At the centre of EVERY heavenly body in ALL the spacial galaxies is a BLACK HOLE. Our ancestors could only pass on one piece of spiritual advice; passed to them by respective priests to their devoted flocks when challenged on mankinds spirituality. We have heard it so many times and had us transfixed. Physicists today are only now beginning to consider this as a possibility.
AS ABOVE SO BELOW
Restart your understanding of science by seriously considering the work of Nassim Harramein and Dr Constantin Meyl. There are many more. It is the doorway to free energy as well.
I have not considered Konstantin Meyl before, but I have considered Nassim Haramein before, and commented elsewhere on this forum on his "science" that there's a black hole inside every atom.

Please do not distract this thread further with such bunk.

[nearing]

I am wondering how he or the ETs arrived at the % of humans who would die (70-80). Why wouldn't we all die, especially since he clearly stated that all plant and animal life and those living just under the surface of the ocean woud die.

What would make that 30-20% of humans different? And how in the hell could they 'survive', if all of their food was killed?

That's the part that shouted out to me.

[bluestflame]

what if the original "magnetic pole shift" was the installation amnesia(anyone remember "the fall"? )and the reversal we are heading towards is the uninstalling of it , like a veil being lifted , a positive thing

more to it

about magnetics , an observation of how the disturbances are affecting birds guidance systems

about duality based "operating system" and how it's anchored into the physical

if there's one thing the ruling elite fear it's the veil being lifted from our energetics and of course they want us to fear it too ,, they want us to fear it so we'll fight it to and see things through fear and confusion , so we'll believe the things they have prepared for release , so intricate the web of lies , a network seemingly independant of one another yet connected

[syrwong]

I am wondering how he or the ETs arrived at the % of humans who would die (70-80). Why wouldn't we all die, especially since he clearly stated that all plant and animal life and those living just under the surface of theboceanwoud die.

What would make that 30-20% of humans different? And how in the hell could they 'survive', if all of their food was killed?

That's the part that shouted out to me.

Yes, I had the same thought then.

[David Trd1]

In regards to the method of communication with some saying that given our understanding that of quantum mechanics that our assumption should be that a communication from ET`s should be instantaneous.Its just that an assumption.
Also if we concede that NASA supposedly work with ''old'' technology in the sense that what they have belongs,in part(In so far as our provable understanding),to the mainstream scientific paradigm it would make sense to logically assume they would send and receive communications with what they have or had in the past and once a line has been opened up why change the method?,Just a thought.
The movie contact(book written by Carl Sagan) comes to mind where mathematics and prime numbers were the basis for communication,it would make sense to me that if such communications were ongoing and mathematics(accepting that its the one true universal language) being the basis for such that this man,assuming he is who he is,would be involved at some level given his background in the field.

The elite are most certainly preparing for ''an event''whether its one of their own making or something that is coming anyway,well all our jury's are out.

Publicly(and provable) available information...

Seed banks in norway.
The construction of underground shelters/bases/cities
Chemtrails.
Haarp and its many(speculative) uses
The re-discovery of ancient underwater cities which point to regular earth changes..
The disappearance of trillions of dollars from financial institutions around the world..

Which brings me to....

Information based mainly on testimony..

Completely new advanced scientific paradigm based on a more developed understanding of the sub-nuclear level of reality and more.
Secret space program
Off world bases.
Underground alien bases
Reversal of alien technology.
Break away civilization re rich dolan

Taking all the above into account particularly the first list,this mans(whom ever he is) point of view and information fits very well with the actions of the elite/governmental structure of the past 50 years.Most of the above actions have been taken through a fear for the future of the human race,at least in there beginnings.
Whether this fear was or is being manipulated is open for debate and speculative on our parts.
It has been the dominant energy on this green sphere for some time now,that is changing.This is obvious to even the most insensitive energetic receptors we have here and its quite tangible on a scientific basis.


We should try and keep our belief systems in balance when viewing information such as this,the very fact that it ties into the actions of the power structure in itself warrants notice and scrutiny from a neutral perspective other wise we may be guilty of permitting the same mistakes our power brokers of the past may have made in regards to material such as this.Resonance is a guide,just because it doesn`t,does not mean it has no relevance.

[Mulder]

21 Dec 2012 is just a Pys-Op like 01 Jan 2000 was. I predict as we get into 2016, more "seers" will predict the "destructive event" has been mitigated. All the while we are distracted by these ever-further dates, we are losing more rights, GMOs and chemtrails are increasing and we are being enslaved

[ThePythonicCow]

I am wondering how he or the ETs arrived at the % of humans who would die (70-80). Why wouldn't we all die, especially since he clearly stated that all plant and animal life and those living just under the surface of the ocean woud die.

What would make that 30-20% of humans different? And how in the hell could they 'survive', if all of their food was killed?

That's the part that shouted out to me.

Those parts didn't add up for me either.

I'm willing to excuse these details as not essential to the key message, that the magnetic pole migration would become rapid allowing a dangerous increase of radiation on the earth's surface.

[ThePythonicCow]

I just moved a post on this thread to a new thread: The South Atlantic Anomaly (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?48496-The-South-Atlantic-Anomaly).

It was too far off topic for this thread.

[Snoweagle]

I have not considered Konstantin Meyl before, but I have considered Nassim Haramein before, and commented elsewhere on this forum on his "science" that there's a black hole inside every atom.

Please do not distract this thread further with such bunk.

Am happy you choose to disagree, Paul though threats are unnecessary.
The fact you choose to consider Harrameins work bunk is your choice.
Choosing to believe an unverifiable source talking to unverifiable aliens by unverifiable methods is your right also.

I have expressed my opinion fairly and openly along with others here so as to promote debate and I hope it continues.

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[Mod-edit: This thread is not about Nassim Haramein's work. No such debate will continue on this thread. -Paul.]

[Bill Ryan]

Based only on these two photos and the man in the video, I would say they are very probably 1) the same person, 2) brothers, or 3) or father and son.

http://projectavalon.net/Sal_Conti_Alberto_Conti.jpg

Not the same person. (Look at the ears, for a start...)

If Sal Conti and Alberto Conti are related, then fine. But that doesn't help very much!

[ulli]

But that's just what I did say...
How come you interpreted something different?

Because he never said anything that implied, advocated or called for a new world religion, at least believing in one God is already the NWO religion.

While we can't be sure what he implied there is still this possibility that he is being psy-opped
and might be relaying a message on behalf of more hidden masters without being aware of it.
Keyword here, as I see it, and Bill has also pointed out, is "compartmentalized" ....
that is the nature of the world in which he has worked all these years.
So unlike us at Avalon, he may be lacking a bigger picture and perhaps even could do with some help in dealing with his fears.

[applecrusher1992]

I tend to agree with people who are questioning his message. Why would the powers that were be into trying to more quickly than ever take away our lives and try to unify everything when they know in 4 years we are all going to hell anyway. That just doesn't make any sense. In addition I feel even if this is true there are so many things we can do about it. We can engineer plants that can remove this waste , we can give gas mask to everyone(if breathing in the radiation is the only problem why not). We can meditate to alleviate some of this stuff. Also just a reminder that you are trusting NASA which got signals from aliens, the same organize that gets pictures from Mars brought to you by Coca-Cola. Just kidding about the Coca-Cola part , maybe. Who knows what these aliens are? They could be ones that want to do us harm. I do not believe for a second that this planet will be completely destroyed. There are several reasons for this. One being that many people say that we have a rough but bright future ahead of us for humanity. I know both personally and online who have said this. Also this video has been up for about 4 days. If this was a super secret with 20,000+ views that NASA didn't want online I think they would have taken it down. I do hold think he is telling the truth about his experience but I don't think we will suffer that fate. I think we can stop this or it will not be as bad as people say it is. If we are worried about this why don't we meditate on emptying out the Van Allen Belt?

[applecrusher1992]

The issue of the 331 days is unanswered (as is the modality of the coding and decoding of complex, detailed information with an alien culture) -- but there's enough here to convince me that he believes absolutely everything he is saying.

It could take our message 331 days to reach them and only minutes for them to get back to us.

[Bill Ryan]

The issue of the 331 days is unanswered (as is the modality of the coding and decoding of complex, detailed information with an alien culture) -- but there's enough here to convince me that he believes absolutely everything he is saying.

It could take our message 331 days to reach them and only minutes for them to get back to us.

Yes, that's absolutely true. The ETs might be responding instantaneously.

[Selene]

Not the same person. (Look at the ears, for a start...)

If Sal Conti and Alberto Conti are related, then fine. But that doesn't help very much!

Not exactly, Bill. If they are indeed related, this increases the probability that the guy in the video is not an actor/impostor but does indeed have "some connection" (therefore knowledge) to NASA....

Drawing a long bow, I know. But it does eliminate a certain level of outright flimflam fraud, no?

Cheers,

Selene

P.s. Since the [optically] right ear of the younger man appears without the outer extension, we must take into account that the photo itself has been "selected out" of another photo to be imposed on the lower layer of the cosmos shot - the exact outline of the ear may have been inadvertently clipped in photoshopping or perhaps smoothed for flattery.

I'm inclined to think the guy on the website is his much younger brother, myself. Same parents. But we'll see, I suppose.

[SKIBADABOMSKI]

Ok heres my take on this.

Do you really think that we are only at that level of communication with ETs to a level where we have to use HAARP and have to wait 331 days for a response to each message? Like seriously... with all the mashed up evidence that this site alone has. The answers are already here on this site. In bits & bobs but it's here.

It's not so hard to see that he talks in that context of a conspiracy theorist (TPTB) and denies being into all that.

Believe me one doesn't need any agenda to pull of one of these stunts. The fact the video is out on YT is a message in itself.

Yes the piece fits nicely (VERY NICELY) in our jigsaw minds of how things may very well end up.

Personally I believe that we have more than enough individuals throwing out different explanations of how we communicate with other races of life to believe that we are using a coded chat box to keep updated on things to come.

So ok lets play ball.... he is being honest. He was tested on trying to decode a very complex lingo that is being used by the bloodlines themselves. He was being used to see how safe the secret lingo is. Then they played him out of the picture having him running for his life when he's totally fine with the silly info he has. And thats if he is being honest.

The secret bloodline coded info is so complex that you have to be born into it to understand it. Coded chats with ETs will be a tad more complex and spiritual.

Clearance my ass.. lol

In this day & age you are developed and designed before you are even born. And even then they might not let you in. Unless your getting your own hands dirty you won't get privy info. Sorry but thats the way.

So puuurrrlease... a pinch of salt?

[Bill Ryan]

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Here's some more data. (It's just data. Salvatore Conti is quite a common name, at least in Italy. None of this proves anything. But having said that: )

Go to http://hcad.org/records/Real.asp?search=acct and enter in account number 1116460000039. You get this:

http://projectavalon.net/Salvatore_Conti_Hcad_Acct_1116460000039.gif

The PDf of the page is here: http://projectavalon.net/Salvatore_Conti_Hcad_Acct_1116460000039.pdf

Enter that address into Google Maps and you get this. The address is just over 30 miles from the Johnson Space Center.

http://projectavalon.net/Sal_Conti_Houston.gif

[Hervé]

What's beginning to connect are this dots that are at crow's flight distances... and emerging as a consequence of far too many of these spilled out scenarii is the damages to electronics and power grids as an end results:


* CME/EMP

* Direct solar winds without geomagnetosphere protection
Both of the above related to the sun's behaviour and even the second one could come from a sympathetic earth pole reversal from the solar cyclical pole inversion which occurs every 11 years.

The consequences of either a dropped geomagnetic protection shield or an overwhelmed one are quasi identical and a subject which Dr. Deagle has explained and expanded on many times in his Nutrimedical radio shows (would have to dig through the achives).

The main picture to contemplate is that if the earth is pummeled for 24 hours by unshielded sun's radiations, the entire earth would literally be toast. If it only last 12 hours, then only one side of it would be crunchy...

Now, although an EMP could happen with a mega X-class solar flare beside high atmosphere nuclear blasts, it could also happen with high altitude meteor bursts.

Anyway, that's what we are repeatedly being told through MSM and Alt. media.

[Craig]

Question, if this is true and NASA received this information, why send a ship to Mars? Wouldn't they be better off further preparing somehow? Or are they after something up there? And reading this I am vaguely reminded about an interview with Dan Burisch about differing timelines and two different entities travelling back from the future - P45 and P50 something? wasn't something mentioned about some humans going underground and the rest staying above ground and going through some pretty harsh challenges. So those in the know go underground and become one of the future aliens, the 30% of us what manage to survive become the next group. Am I remembering this bit correctly? It was a while ago.

I for one am only sad cause I have a young child, but otherwise getting increasingly tired of this scenario, it is time to boycott coming back to this planet when offered in prelife situations.

Vote no to Earth. - until it is cleaned up and returned to its pristine condition in which it deserves to be.

[Bill Ryan]

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From http://nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2012/aug/HQ_12-272_RBSP_L-14.html :






New NASA Mission Ready to Brave Earth's Radiation Belts

NASA's Radiation Belt Storm Probes (RBSP) mission will send two spacecraft into the harsh environment of our planet's radiation belts. Final preparations have begun for launch on Thursday, Aug. 23, from Florida's Space Coast.

The RBSP spacecraft are designed to fly and operate in the heart of the most hazardous regions of near-Earth space to collect crucial data. The data will help researchers develop an understanding of the Van Allen radiation belts, two rings of very high energy electrons and protons that can pose hazards to human and robotic explorers.

"At the end of this month we will turn our attention from planet Mars to planet Earth, both immersed in the atmosphere of our sun," said Barbara Giles, director of NASA's Heliophysics Division. "RBSP will further explore the connection of solar variability and its impacts on Earth's radiation belts."

RBSP will help scientists understand how the invisible radiation belts -- named for James Van Allen, who discovered them -- behave and react to changes in the sun, thereby contributing to Earth's space weather. Space weather is caused in great part by the sun's influence on Earth and near-Earth space, including solar events such as giant eruptions of solar material called coronal mass ejections.

"The dramatic dynamics of Earth's radiation belts caused by space weather are highly unpredictable," said Barry Mauk, RBSP project scientist at the Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory (APL) in Laurel, Md. "One of the fundamental objectives of the RBSP mission is to use Earth's magnetosphere as a natural laboratory to understand generally how radiation is created and evolves throughout the universe. There are many mysteries that need to be resolved."

(Article continues here (http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2012/aug/HQ_12-272_RBSP_L-14.html)...)

[Patrikas]

ascention is the opposite of dissention .........and is a return to the place of original purpose and intent and of orignal design ....

and is where earth herself along with many other consciousness have chosen to go

it just happens to be the place we, along with many other consciousness call home also .. so each consciousness must choose

[ThePythonicCow]

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From http://nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2012/aug/HQ_12-272_RBSP_L-14.html :

Dup of Post #67 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?48483-Warning-from-NASA-Scientist-stating-Aliens-warn-of-massive-threat-coming-to-Earth&p=537056&viewfull=1#post537056) :)

[Ron Mauer Sr]

Oh darn, does this mean we have to wait 2 more years? I was much more hoping for a 2012 event to start getting our planet back to its good health.

Have you ever noticed that the dramatic events predicted keep getting pushed into the future?


The possibility occurred to me that some of these disaster scenarios might be thoughts planted to keep the energy of fear flowing. Dates come and go without manifestation of predicted events.

Another possibility. Non-physical entities who cannot create on their own may be influencing humans who can create with thought. Thereby using us to create situations that they want.

Of all the disaster scenarios I've heard there is only one that I feel is definite and unavoidable. Economic collapse.

[Bill Ryan]

Question, if this is true and NASA received this information, why send a ship to Mars?

There are hundreds (if not thousands) of different programs, projects and departments, which are heavily compartmentalized and keep secrets not only from us but from each other.

For example, there certainly exists a secret space program utilizing very advanced technology -- but very few people, (if any!) even in NASA will know about it.

If coded signals were received by a project within SARA, and the decision was made to keep it all under wraps, most of the people in SARA itself would not know. Most in NASA would not know. Obama and many of his political advisors may not know. Only those very senior in military intelligence are likely to be in the loop -- while key preparations are made and critical decisions are evaluated.

Having said that, I'm still concerned with the 331 day delay (would we really sit tight and wait 331 days before asking our next question?) -- and with how a workable protocol for sophisticated communications was established given that there could (apparently) only have been between 10 and 20 opportunities for two-way message exchange.

That's not a lot of communication when not only do you have to understand very complex messages, but prior to that establish and agree a language based on math and coded sequences that's rich enough for there to be no room for error when discussing the end of civilization(!).

[cloud9]

Well, I just need to say that this information era is quite a challenge and it's really all about our minds...

I don't know and I don't want to know about mental parasites and the like, it's just too complex and unpleasant but it seems very clear to me that we are being played in such a variety of ways that if we were to believe everything we read or find on the internet without a strong mind and character, it would be easy to go insane. Has anyone counted how many terrible threats are we dealing with? Not just the real physical ones but the possible or future ones, it goes from Nibiru and invading ETS, asteroids, second sun, sun going supernova, EMS, weather, etc. etc. The list is pretty long as you all know.

Is there a chance this exchange of information of this kind is of benefit to somebody or some group? Or is it that we are so bored, not enough entertained with our gadgets and movies that even more is needed? I remember dear Bob Dean talking about Nibiru very seriously and he even called Bill and Kerry for a new interview because he had new information about it. Is it than I took Nibiru out of mi mind long ago and because of that I haven't hear anything about it? Or is it that the Nibiru scare is already a thing of the past? More or less, every two months there's a prediction about something, mostly the financial collapse of the economy but the list seems never ending.

I don't say this information is false because I don't know but many times I wonder why this madness is going on.

[Ron Mauer Sr]

I don't say this information is false because I don't know but many times I wonder why this madness is going on.

The madness may be going on to sustain fear, to feed the dark side.
Or it may be manipulation by the dark side to focus our attention on events they want to manifest but cannot. Whatever we focus on becomes greater.

[cloud9]

Yes, I absolutely believe fear is the game being played but I also believe in the shift. My problem is perhaps with the scary nature of the shift that many are trying to convey.

[gripreaper]

Since it has been postulated that these messages may be planted psy-ops, I thought I would cross pollinate this post from the Archon's thread and reintroduce Barry Trower:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?40941-Horus-Ra-as-the-Archontic-Alien-Parasite-A-follow-up-interview-with-Maarit&p=536895#post536895

Although I do believe that this video in the OP is sincere, I do not know if the source is genuinely benevolent aliens or some other source. Hope this cross threading is not off topic and irrelevant to the discussion, as I don't think it is.

[Turcurulin]

I'm not buying this one.

Firstly, can anyone find anything else on this guy? I cannot with only minimal research so far. OK, he has a google plus (https://plus.google.com/103075040831622434250/about) page, but that is not evidence enough - I could make one for Santa Claus right now, if I wanted.

Secondly, he is a bit dramatic in his presentation. "[Microwaves from the sun scorching the earth is nonsense, but these Van Allen belt particles...]" Claiming that most conspiracy theories are nonsense is ridiculous here. He worked for NASA, right?!

Thirdly, how come the newest thing to be 'afraid-of' is always pushed just a couple of years in front of the present day? 2 years ago it was 11/11/11, last year (and earlier) it was 12/21/2012, this year it's 2016... and so on. If this information has been around for 16 years (ok - it's only absolutely confirmed as of 3/23 of last year, but still,) why are we just now hearing about it? This is the type of thing that has a potential for MASSIVE leakage. It feels to me that someone would have brought this to the table by now. Members of our alternative community have a knack for jumping all over things like this and bringing them to light immediately.

Fourthly, receiving messages from ET is nothing new. Does anyone remember this? -

http://www.wisdomoftherays.com/images/crop-circles/digital-rendition.jpg

MUCH more convincing, IMHO.

Fifthly, the editing job on the video feels suspicious to me...

I'm not saying that the ideas that he's conveying aren't a possibility. I just feel that what he is saying is not true.

[frozen alchemy]

I feel he believes what he's saying, but so did all the millions of people down through the ages who 'believed' in one religion or another. Sincerity doesn't translate to truth.

And why in the world would a NASA physicist need 'help' posting a Youtube video?

[Mandala]

About the percEntage of deaths and survivors, is it because 20 percent of the population will be underground in bunkers with filtered air and water, free from radiation with hydroponics and protein sources, and recycled water ?

[Rocky_Shorz]

Based only on these two photos and the man in the video, I would say they are very probably 1) the same person, 2) brothers, or 3) or father and son.

http://projectavalon.net/Sal_Conti_Alberto_Conti.jpg

Not the same person. (Look at the ears, for a start...)

If Sal Conti and Alberto Conti are related, then fine. But that doesn't help very much![/QUOTE]

James is beating up Kerry and suddenly a NASA insider is rocking the alternate media...

brings back fond memories now doesn't it... ;)

[ED209]

If he were clever, he would have at least tried to hide his identity.

But he is clever. The man in the video (whoever he is! :) ) is no dimwit. Why would he have willingly given more than enough information for good researchers to verify his credentials?

By saying that if he were clever he would have tried to conceal his identity, I meant that by making his such a public statement, that he probably would lose access to his primary source of information.

Also, it wasn't that he willingly gave credential information, which you are right, he should do, but it was the way that he dwelled on it for so long it seemed offish to me...outside of how most people generally behave. To me, it made me suspect that he was abusing his credentials by delivering a possibly untrue message. That is just me making assumptions based on generalities, he may be different, especially since being a NASA mathematician in and of itself would make him somewhat extraordinary. But I just got a not-right dishonest feeling from subtle things that he did and said.

[ThePythonicCow]

And why in the world would a NASA physicist need 'help' posting a Youtube video?
None of us are familiar with all technologies, even all common technologies, even the brightest.

[Tangri]

the video guys body language and narration style tells me that this is an actor.

Raf, what say you?

meat


Meat suit,
You seems a behavioral psychologist . Which one did you chose first, avatar Picture or name?

[airaspect]

He doesn't seem too emotional about the subject and he covers it up with some face mimics. His intonation follows the same, repeating pattern, like he's reciting a poem. The speech is well prepared, there are almost no pauses and there's no reaching to memories on his side that i can notice.

Scientists with quite a few years of work behind them also tend to think automatically in scientific language and it's rather hard for them to avoid using it. The speaker seemed more like an educated layman to me.

That being said, the message itself may contain some truth, who knows.

[K626]

To put that into perspective Nasa consider 50km up and ESA consider 80km up as 'space'. :lol:

love

K

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Question, if this is true and NASA received this information, why send a ship to Mars?

There are hundreds (if not thousands) of different programs, projects and departments, which are heavily compartmentalized and keep secrets not only from us but from each other.

For example, there certainly exists a secret space program utilizing very advanced technology -- but very few people, (if any!) even in NASA will know about it.

If coded signals were received by a project within SARA, and the decision was made to keep it all under wraps, most of the people in SARA itself would not know. Most in NASA would not know. Obama and many of his political advisors may not know. Only those very senior in military intelligence are likely to be in the loop -- while key preparations are made and critical decisions are evaluated.

Having said that, I'm still concerned with the 331 day delay (would we really sit tight and wait 331 days before asking our next question?) -- and with how a workable protocol for sophisticated communications was established given that there could (apparently) only have been between 10 and 20 opportunities for two-way message exchange.

That's not a lot of communication when not only do you have to understand very complex messages, but prior to that establish and agree a language based on math and coded sequences that's rich enough for there to be no room for error when discussing the end of civilization(!).

As you probably know 331 is a masonic code. ;)

love

K

[bogeyman]

If you were told you truth or came cross the truth would you recognize it? It is mainly conjecture on this thread, fact and evidence is what is needed to have a solid base. There has been so many stories, leaks etc, that it is a confusion of fact, fiction and half truths and guess work. Forget about opinions, beliefs, get the facts, get a proof or a paper trail at least to start with.

[AMystic3434]

first it was 2012, then I heard it was 2011, now its 2016. I dont buy it for a second. The conspiracy theorists just want to establish a new date so they can keep getting money from you. I think I figured out what they do. They always come up with something new and people buy it like a fish eating a worm on a hook. Im thinking that its all just for entertainment and you cant take all this stuff about aliens and pole shifts and illuminati as real. Its just entertainment. Its very easy to play with peoples minds, or for people to let there minds be manipulated. I wouldnt believe it. Did you ever concider that the government is building underground bases just in case of a nuclear war so they can operate still in case the surface is wiped out. That is more of a plausable explanation as opposed to a pole shift. Real scientists say that a pole shift can happen but wont happen for hundreds of years, im not talking about some ameture scientist that works as an IT specialist during his day job. I think it makes scence to say that if any of these conspiracys were true that a real reporter would eventually get it out through some main stream media. Im not talking about some blogger who thinks he has it all figured out and comes up with some dillusional story. Im talking about a real reporter, if any of this was true they would get it out to the main stream. After all, not all main stream is controlled by the "illuminati".

[HURRITT ENYETO]

The inner Van Allen radiation belt, the one closest to the surface of earth, has mostly alpha radiation (protons.) Dr. Sal says as much in the above video.

However when I look up what sort of shielding is required to protect my body from alpha radiation, I read that a single sheet of paper is sufficient. Even my skin is sufficient, so long as I don't breath in alpha emitting radioactively decaying material into my lungs or ingest it into my digestive tract.

This suggests to me that if the inner Van Allen radiation belt descends to earth's surface (Northern Lights -- everywhere! ?), it's not a serious risk so long as one can stay in doors and has food and water for the, say, two months he expected this to be at its worst. That seems doable, on an individual basis. What might not be so doable is getting most of humanity through this, or feeding us all after it is over, if all we have left to eat is what we can grow from stored seeds on barren ground.

I would have guessed further however that our atmosphere would protect us and even outdoor plants and animals would mostly survive, except perhaps those at very high elevations or those already of rather marginal health.

In sum, I'm suspending judgment on this for three reasons:

were we told this by knowledgeable aliens communicating to NASA,
will earth's magnetic poles rapidly flip causing the Van Allen radiation belts descend to earth's surface, and
would that really be an extinction level event.

Some reasonably knowledgeable in astrophysics and the biological affects of alpha radiation should reasonably be able to answer at least my third reason.

Hi Paul, I thought the Van Allen belt was one of the main reasons that astronauts have to have a lead shielded compartment on their space crafts? I would have thought that if their skin was enough to protect them, that NASA could save a few quid! :p

I don't think the radiation would be our biggest problem either. The alleged NASA scientist states that 70-80% of the plant life on Earth will be killed off, including all life that lives near the surface of the oceans. Much of the Earth's breathable oxygen (in fact half) is produced by the Plankton (which lives right at the surface) so with no, or very little, Oxygen being produced, and no Co2 being removed from the atmosphere, mankind will have a very tough time.



Here is the flaw. If they can see the future of the planet why can't they communicate a 'heeluva' lot faster? :lol:

love

K

I would think that any sufficiently advanced civilization, could quite easily model these kind of Earth changes, which after all, are regular and cyclical in nature, especially if they are observing from a vantage point of having millions, perhaps hundreds of millions of years of Earth change data from our planet.




http://www.tethers.com/WebImages/RadiationBelts3.jpg

I was thinking that exact same thing MorningSong, how the 'tether' incident made much more sense to me now (if this NASA info is true) the official explanation for the Tether mission never made much sense to me, perhaps it was a trail run to see if the tech was viable.

ps I don't believe that the objects seen surrounding the 'tether' footage were spacecraft either, but that's for another thread.


Hurritt

[araucaria]

Channelling for scientists. It has to get past people like Bill Ryan : not an easy matter, but worth trying, because so many people value Bill’s opinion !

331 earth days is a paradoxical number to have. The prime number is a smoke screen to hide the fact that anything in whole earth days makes no sense whatsoever. This is like Maurice Cotterell’s number-crunching on sunspot cycles. All very impressive, to x decimal places, but the two basic sun cycles used (polar and equatorial) were exact earth days (26 and 37): very, very round numbers, and terrocentric to boot. Why on earth (pun intended) would the sun be working to terran schedules, as opposed to say operating to Jupiter time or Saturn chronology???

But Cotterell was dealing with cycles of only a few thousand years. Here we are being asked to believe that a one-in-fifteen-million-years event is going to hit us next Tuesday or as near as dammit. How very convenient.

Many scientists are not all they are cracked up to be – mostly by their peers. In fact they are sometimes just cracked up, period. This guy quotes Richard Dawkins, author of ‘The God Illusion’, a grave mistake in my view, and the next thing he is saying is his own version of that selfsame god illusion, in spades. He cannot have it both ways. A minimum of basic logic might have given him a bit more credibility.

Incidentally, by all accounts, Ursa Major is not a very pleasant neck of the woods for these messages to be coming from. You even read that what we see as stars up there are not stars at all but something artificial. But you don’t even want to go there (pun intended). Even their near polar location is not neutral. It would be a very handy place to be for example to trigger a planetary wobble or a magnetic pole shift in the “war on Terra” (not my pun).

Interestingly, Ursa Major in Mayan astronomy/mythology is Seven Macaw, which in John Major Jenkins reading is dislodged from its perch as a focus of attention in favour of the galactic centre. This is a rendering of the visual effect of the constellation tipping round the pole star every day, and through the precessional cycle as well.

[Eric J (Viking)]

If we don't embrace or support the NWO, then we are all doomed, me thinks...!

Hmmmmm ....:rolleyes:

viking

[greybeard]

Red Ice Radio - Drunvalo Melchizedek; July 7th
On the radio interview Drunvalo said that the Mayans predict a magnetic pole shift first but in February 2016 a physical pole shift will happen.
There is an enormous amount in this interview.
With me its a maybe so --hypothetical.
However quite a few "pundits" are pointing to an upraising of human consciousness and upgrade in DNA.
Chris

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTh_ALf1Rok


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTh_ALf1Rok


I have bumped this as its very relevant to external alien messages.
Drumvalo claims the indigenous people have are in contact with Aliens.
He also claims in the interview that he is not of this world but came to see the human race through these times.
Overall his message is positive----
I neither believe nor disbelieve in his story but I prefer positive messages.

Chris

[Mutchie]

If this guy is for real im kind of speechless .... how could et,s 58 light years away possibly know that we have a geomagnetic reversal coming ?

I understand they may be really advanced etc ... evidently the earth is going through changes and the north pole is drifting towards russia

im on the fence but I WANT TO KNOW MORE !!!

[Jean-Luc]

BASIC DUE DILIGENCE ON THE AUTHOR OF THE VIDEO

Salvatore Conti : https://plus.google.com/103075040831622434250/about

Place & date of Birth : Aranova or Ara Nova, Province of Rome, Italy, 1949
http://goo.gl/maps/9prFJ

>> Could anybody in Italy check this (birth registry in Ara Nova & surroundings)?


PhD of Applied Mathematics & Physics Yale University (1972-... 1980?)

There is no such department or program (at least today) at Yale University. The courses are separate courses:


http://www.hotcoursesusa.com/us/phd-in-applied-mathematics-at-yale-university-51790904-usa.html, Duration: 4 years

http://www.uniguru.co.in/studyabroad/united-states-courses/ph-d-applied-physics-course-details/cseid/51790946/cid/72204/programs.html Duration: variable. Doctoral work should be completed in no more than six years.

Yale Thesis & Dissertation dabase
http://resources.library.yale.edu/online/dbsbysubjecthfxml_info.asp?searchfor=med&lookfor=YUL03922
Access Restrictions: Restricted by IP address to Yale Univ + YNHH

>> Does any of you have acquaintance with access do the Yale Thesis & Dissertation dabase?

Here is a short list to start with:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Yale_University_people :)

More seriously, I am sure some of you know some scientists who could have have access to this database.


One more thing, go and check these video channels subscriptions of his friend:
http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCOdImxz1hJUNXGg9_St4BvA?feature=watch

If I were a scientist with such a message to convey, this is not exactly the format or the friend I would use.

[araucaria]

For all I know, his credentials may be impeccable, but that wouldn't be enough to validate his message.

Born in Ara nova: = New Macaw. Interesting :)

[The Truth Is In There]

if one doesn't discount countless prophecies, future predictions and the accounts of people who have seen their futures through hypnosis as nonsense, then one will realize that a total extermination of everything on earth is extremely unlikely.

most people who will be in a body in the near future or have seen the future talked about major destruction and population reduction but certainly not to the point of human extinction.

what bothers me is that now they say it's going to take another 4 years until the hardcore doom happens when all the while it was 2012/13. maybe there will be several events (very likely, imo) but if nothing major has happened by may 2013 i'm beginning to seriously doubt the common sense of the creator (or the controllers of this illusion, if you will). the world can't go on as it is now or humanity as a whole will eventually reach a state to which death would be preferable.

[Alan]

From the beginning of ET-human contact, the ETs have been communicating dire predictions of natural disasters, none of which have come true.

Why should we believe this message? Sounds like a prank call from ET.

[niki]

I just hope this is not another bull****/BS again just like that Olympics thing...

it makes me hates human beings and their "made-up stories for their own personal motives" even much more!...
just saying, honestly.

[SilentFeathers]

I'm still concerned with the 331 day delay (would we really sit tight and wait 331 days before asking our next question?) -- and with how a workable protocol for sophisticated communications was established given that there could (apparently) only have been between 10 and 20 opportunities for two-way message exchange.

That's not a lot of communication when not only do you have to understand very complex messages, but prior to that establish and agree a language based on math and coded sequences that's rich enough for there to be no room for error when discussing the end of civilization(!).

This is the same reason why I became VERY suspicious and backed off of "Sal" and his message. It really makes no sense.

When he said they didn't want to overlap messages or get overwhelmed with data by sending too many messages that really sounded illogical, especially when an ELE event was the topic and also knowing we have computers that can work millions of times faster than a bunch of human code breakers with a pencil and paper.

The 331 thing? hmmm? (Great numerology) but, If ET was so set on warning us, cared so much about telling us, and so advanced, they could "pull" and "send" messages instantly IMO. It makes no sense that if they cared enough about us to give us a heads up, why aren't they floating right above us now trying to help more? Perhaps the war going on with the GFL and others just above our atmosphere right now is preventing them from doing this? LOL!

I don't mean to be sarcastic, but I see this story as being just another story spinning off of the pole shift possibility, which in fact is a likely thing considering magnetic north is on the move right now more than usual. All this other stuff Sal is talking about could be possible, but I'm not buying it.

PS: Good luck researching this one folks!

[Bill Ryan]

BASIC DUE DILIGENCE ON THE AUTHOR OF THE VIDEO

Salvatore Conti : https://plus.google.com/103075040831622434250/about

Place & date of Birth : Aranova or Ara Nova, Province of Rome, Italy, 1949
http://goo.gl/maps/9prFJ

>> Could anybody in Italy check this (birth registry in Ara Nova & surroundings)?


PhD of Applied Mathematics & Physics Yale University (1972-... 1980?)

There is no such department or program (at least today) at Yale University. The courses are separate courses:


http://www.hotcoursesusa.com/us/phd-in-applied-mathematics-at-yale-university-51790904-usa.html, Duration: 4 years

http://www.uniguru.co.in/studyabroad/united-states-courses/ph-d-applied-physics-course-details/cseid/51790946/cid/72204/programs.html Duration: variable. Doctoral work should be completed in no more than six years.

Yale Thesis & Dissertation dabase
http://resources.library.yale.edu/online/dbsbysubjecthfxml_info.asp?searchfor=med&lookfor=YUL03922
Access Restrictions: Restricted by IP address to Yale Univ + YNHH

>> Does any of you have acquaintance with access do the Yale Thesis & Dissertation dabase?

Here is a short list to start with:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Yale_University_people :)

More seriously, I am sure some of you know some scientists who could have have access to this database.


One more thing, go and check these video channels subscriptions of his friend:
http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCOdImxz1hJUNXGg9_St4BvA?feature=watch

If I were a scientist with such a message to convey, this is not exactly the format or the friend I would use.

Many thanks, Jean-Luc --

Many people on the net are pitching in with uninformed, unhelpful lay opinions. Let's see if smart Avalonians can come up with some hard data.

Note this, stated by Enrico De Luca. (He opened his own YouTube account two days before posting this, his only video. My guess is that he clicked on a few channels to subscribe to without knowing what he was doing. He knew how to upload a video, but is a YouTube newbie.)






A few days ago, my friend asked me to help him tell the world a huge message. For months, I had noticed him withdrawn and worried, and when he explained to me what his secret was, I almost fainted.

The good news is that he's convinced that there's hope, which is the main reason why he wants to defy everything and everyone that has kept him quiet for too long.

Last night he gave me this video, which was almost 30 minutes long. He wanted me to edit out an introduction intended only for me, but I didn't: I want the world to see it.

I only edited a couple of moments in which he is quietly thoughtful or when he searches for a word for a few seconds, with the only purpose of making it as short as possible, without altering the essence of his message.


He later wrote as a comment:






Let's clear things up:

THIS IS ABOUT AN IMPENDING DANGER! IT'S NOT A RELIGIOUS DEBATE!!

If you read this video's description, it will tell you where it came from.

Dr. Salvatore Conti has been my close friend for over 15 years, and he had been dying to tell the world the message in it. He recorded himself telling all the relevant information, and asked for my opinion. Following his wishes, I reviewed it and posted it. He doesn't have any Youtube, Facebook or any other social network account.

[Christine]

Since it has been postulated that these messages may be planted psy-ops, I thought I would cross pollinate this post from the Archon's thread and reintroduce Barry Trower:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?40941-Horus-Ra-as-the-Archontic-Alien-Parasite-A-follow-up-interview-with-Maarit&p=536895#post536895

Although I do believe that this video in the OP is sincere, I do not know if the source is genuinely benevolent aliens or some other source. Hope this cross threading is not off topic and irrelevant to the discussion, as I don't think it is.

Thank you Grip... just listening right now. This is an important interview. I am forwarding it to other people with large email lists. It is so obvious that this is in effect all over our planet. Silent and deadly.

Christine

[SilentFeathers]

Could this actually be "Dr. Sal"????
Minus the mole on his face of course? Just something I found that should also be considered. With such a BIG claim, such as the end of the world as we know it or an ELE claim, all possibilities must be considered IMO.

Sal claims right at the beginning of his doomsday video posted in this thread that "I am NOT an actor".......

EMaQlqItXqE

DI9kxFhbzEc

[Unified Serenity]

Channelling for scientists. It has to get past people like Bill Ryan : not an easy matter, but worth trying, because so many people value Bill’s opinion !

331 earth days is a paradoxical number to have. The prime number is a smoke screen to hide the fact that anything in whole earth days makes no sense whatsoever. This is like Maurice Cotterell’s number-crunching on sunspot cycles. All very impressive, to x decimal places, but the two basic sun cycles used (polar and equatorial) were exact earth days (26 and 37): very, very round numbers, and terrocentric to boot. Why on earth (pun intended) would the sun be working to terran schedules, as opposed to say operating to Jupiter time or Saturn chronology???



My simple answer is because they were made for signs, seasons, and times for the souls created by God as a guide to know the divine order and plan.

God's Mazzaroth vs. Astrotheology (http://unifiedserenity.wordpress.com/astrology-mazzaroth-vs-astrotheology/)

[Unified Serenity]

Red Ice Radio - Drunvalo Melchizedek; July 7th
On the radio interview Drunvalo said that the Mayans predict a magnetic pole shift first but in February 2016 a physical pole shift will happen.
There is an enormous amount in this interview.
With me its a maybe so --hypothetical.
However quite a few "pundits" are pointing to an upraising of human consciousness and upgrade in DNA.
Chris

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTh_ALf1Rok


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTh_ALf1Rok


I have bumped this as its very relevant to external alien messages.
Drumvalo claims the indigenous people have are in contact with Aliens.
He also claims in the interview that he is not of this world but came to see the human race through these times.
Overall his message is positive----
I neither believe nor disbelieve in his story but I prefer positive messages.

Chris

You know I appreciate the balance you attempt to bring to the forum Chris. My thought is "who doesn't like a positive message?" I am hard wired to seek the truth, and that is the message I want-- TRUTH. Our own insecurities are what make something positive or negative in my experience. If I know a drought is coming and I set aside food and water for that time period, then is someone tellling me of a drought positive or negative? I think it's positive because I can prepare. If someone comes along and says all is fine, and I am blind sided by a drought, isn't that a negative message in reality? Knowing what is coming allows those who are awake, listening and watching prepare both physically and spiritually.

[Eric J (Viking)]

Could this actually be "Dr. Sal"????
Minus the mole on his face of course? Just something I found that should also be considered. With such a BIG claim, such as the end of the world as we know it or an ELE claim, all possibilities must be considered IMO.

Sal claims right at the beginning of his doomsday video posted in this thread that "I am NOT an actor".......

EMaQlqItXqE

DI9kxFhbzEc

Well I've watched both vids very carefully...I'm no expert , but it would appear that he is the same... is he is a fake then???

Me thinks you've all been had...

viking

[gooty64]

Sure appears that way.



Could this actually be "Dr. Sal"????
Minus the mole on his face of course? Just something I found that should also be considered. With such a BIG claim, such as the end of the world as we know it or an ELE claim, all possibilities must be considered IMO.

Sal claims right at the beginning of his doomsday video posted in this thread that "I am NOT an actor".......


...

Well I've watched both vids very carefully...I'm no expert , but it would appear that he is the same... is he is a fake then???

viking

[wynderer]

i came into this body knowing that there were going to be big Earth Changes -- as did all of you -- this thread, & others along the same line, from different approaches -- reading them sometimes is like watching Humans wake up from denial/sleep

[Bill Ryan]

Could this actually be "Dr. Sal"????
Minus the mole on his face of course? Just something I found that should also be considered. With such a BIG claim, such as the end of the world as we know it or an ELE claim, all possibilities must be considered IMO.

Sal claims right at the beginning of his doomsday video posted in this thread that "I am NOT an actor".......

Well I've watched both vids very carefully...I'm no expert, but it would appear that he is the same... is he is a fake then???

viking

Very similar indeed, but a different guy. Look closely at the earlobe. (Besides, the birthmark/ mole on Dr Conti's left cheek is missing.)


http://projectavalon.net/Dr_Sal_Conti_ear_comparison.jpg

http://projectavalon.net/Dr_Sal_Conti_ear_comparison_enlarged.jpg

My father (pen name Jacques Penry) was a facial identification expert and was contracted to the British Home Office. (He was the guy who invented Photofit.) He taught me when I was young that ears are like fingerprints, and cannot be altered, even by plastic surgery. These two men are definitely different.

[Eric J (Viking)]

Hmmm not totally convinced Bill...some more info here... ?! apparently top response...I'll see if I can track him down on twitter, and ask him...

This guy is a hobbiest actor. His name is Frank Vidal. Here is his twitter page twitter(DOT COM)/filmscribe. Here are two youtube clips where he is acting /watch?v=V2DlOtBuYTQ and /watch?v=X_bhI88UyEc

viking

[SilentFeathers]

Bill, look at Dr Sal's ear in his video exactly at 26:24 in his video.....

Your photo's are showing two different angles and the bottom of his lobe is missing in the pic on the left. Dr Sal's lobe looks much more like Vidal's when Sal turns to his left....

[Unified Serenity]

Ok, I did a few print screens. I think it's helpful to pull up the Dr. Sal video and one of the two Frank Vidal acting videos and listen to the voice. Here are the screen shots I took of Frank Vidal and "Dr. Sal".



http://unifiedserenity.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/sal11.jpg?w=593 (http://unifiedserenity.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/sal11.jpg) jeeez.... go to blog post (http://unifiedserenity.wordpress.com/2012/08/13/dr-sal-probably-a-hoax-picture-comparison/)

http://unifiedserenity.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/sal121.jpg?w=593 (http://unifiedserenity.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/sal121.jpg)

[wynderer]

why are you all talking about slight facial differences instead of the message? -- which you don't really need from one of those 3-letter agencies anyway, as our 'indigenous' Peoples have already warned us

PS -- actually a 4-letter agency in this instance

[Alan]

IMO this info is not much different from channeling -- info from a distant, unknown source, which can't be proven. Just because it is coming thru a rocket scientist does not make it any more credible.

[SilentFeathers]

I don't mean to be throwing a wrench in to this thread, but something doesn't "feel" right about Dr. Sal to me. I tend to trust my instincts, but I am wrong on occasions too....

[Unified Serenity]

I just edited my post on page 9 with actual photos of Frank Vidal and Dr. Sal.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?48483-Warning-from-NASA-Scientist-stating-Aliens-warn-of-massive-threat-coming-to-Earth&p=537416&viewfull=1#post537416

[Unified Serenity]

I think we have to examine all available information and use our discernment. If this Dr. Sal turns out to be Frank Vidal, it does not mean the earth is not headed for some changes or a geo magnetic pole shift. It just means we have an actor sending us the message. I do think his end message appeals to some and is intended to affect the thinking of those who would be scared by his message. He is pushing for ending the separation caused by country / flag and religions. I think we can have both flags and religions and respect one another as sacred beings following our own paths and not kill each other over it.

If we are headed for some hard earth changes, I'd still rather know and prepare physically and spiritually than pretend we are not.



Hmmm not totally convinced Bill...some more info here... ?! apparently top response...I'll see if I can track him down on twitter, and ask him...

This guy is a hobbiest actor. His name is Frank Vidal. Here is his twitter page twitter(DOT COM)/filmscribe. Here are two youtube clips where he is acting /watch?v=V2DlOtBuYTQ and /watch?v=X_bhI88UyEc


I know -- I went through the videos frame by frame and took screenshots. Research takes work. Casual "I'm-no-expert" opinions are of almost no value.

If you'd like to contribute intelligently to this potentially important discussion, please do contact Frank Vidal. I would sincerely welcome that.

I would also appreciate Avalon researchers taking up the leads provided by Jean-Luc in his post here. (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?48483-Warning-from-NASA-Scientist-stating-Aliens-warn-of-massive-threat-coming-to-Earth&p=537334&viewfull=1#post537334)

I'm not yet 100% convinced this is real. As I said earlier, I'm concerned with the 331 days, and the issue of the communication protocols. It's also a problem that there has not yet been any verification of his bona fides as an employee/ contractor for NASA or SARA. (But there, one would not have found any bona fides for Arthur Neumann (Henry Deacon), either. He showed us his credentials personally, but they have never been released online. He was a brilliant electronic engineer, but you would never find his classified project work on the net -- which is like the skin of an apple compared with the real depth of information out there which is not in the public domain.)

We have to go slowly and carefully here. What would be the greatest tragedy is if this warning was real, and we all dismissed it because of lazy mass internet opinion. I learned back in Serpo days that "reality" is defined on the internet by the "vote" of public opinion -- regardless of the truth. It was an important lesson to learn.

Think of your responsibility here. I'm going to say something very heavy. Hundreds of millions of people could die if we irresponsibly and prematurely trash a legitimate warning because we're all trying to be smart alecs.

If Dr Conti (and Enrico De Luca) are real, then they may be very discouraged by the skeptical response. They may respond by posting another video, and producing credentials. But equally, we may never hear from them again. Which would you prefer?

[Mutchie]

i have just watched the video again and he seems to have so much information which sounds totally credible, he talks of dates as if they are firmly planted in his mind as if he has really worked on all of this , im dying to know more hopefully he doesnt fade away.

[Carmody]

The issue of the 331 days is unanswered (as is the modality of the coding and decoding of complex, detailed information with an alien culture) -- but there's enough here to convince me that he believes absolutely everything he is saying.

It could take our message 331 days to reach them and only minutes for them to get back to us.

Yes, that's absolutely true. The ETs might be responding instantaneously.

http://www.nature.com/news/quantum-teleportation-achieved-over-record-distances-1.11163

13 August 2012

Two teams of researchers have extended the reach of quantum teleportation to unprecedented lengths, roughly equivalent to the distance between New York City and Philadelphia. But don’t expect teleportation stations to replace airports or train terminals — the teleportation scheme shifts only the quantum state of a single photon. And although part of the transfer happens instantaneously, the steps required to read out the teleported quantum state ensure that no information can be communicated faster than the speed of light.

~~~~~~~~~~

(essentially, they have not figured out an elegant solution to their dilemma of getting to full FTL communication, is all)

[Unified Serenity]

Very similar indeed, but a different guy. Look closely at the earlobe. (Besides, the birthmark/ mole on Dr Conti's left cheek is missing.)





Bill, you and I know you can fake a birth mark, scar, or mole:

How to fake a mole (http://www.nerdygirlmakeup.com/2010/06/29/how-to-create-a-fake-beauty-mark/)


yMo5Mtohup0

[Peace of Mind]

hmmm, first it was the year 2000, then it was 2012…now it’s 2016? smh.

It seems these fear mongrels are addicted to the energy of the gullible and innocent. Anyway, if this was real and all we do is sit back and do nothing to prevent it…we will get what we deserve.

Peace

[gooty64]

US, if he is an actor, it would also mean that we have a liar sending us this message- as he states emphatically in the video that he is not an actor.

[frozen alchemy]

He taught me when I was young that ears are like fingerprints, and cannot be altered, even by plastic surgery.


Errr, no. Plastic surgeons work on birth defect and accident-damaged ears all the time. The operation to make ears lie flatter to the head in children is pretty common, as is repair to torn earlobes from earring accidents.

That said, yes, barring an attempt at hiding an identity, you can use earlobes as a point of identification. If this guy was trying to hide his identity, he could have just worn a hat and sunglasses.

On the other hand, each view on Youtube pays a bit of money now, right? So you make up a great scary story with a long enough time line out into the future, it goes viral and you make yourself a tidy buck on the ad-play and get a good laugh on top of it. This is just another one of the hundreds of scammers making money off 2012 and beyond.

And meanwhile, this thread will go on and on and on just like the Fake Drake one did.

A physicist with connections at the highest levels of academia and the government who doesn't have any social network accounts, not Facebook or Linked In???? And who can't figure out for himself where the 'upload' button is on Youtube, but CAN help decode alien communications? Please.

[Carmody]

For all I know, his credentials may be impeccable, but that wouldn't be enough to validate his message.

Born in Ara nova: = New Macaw. Interesting :)


"Macaws are small to large, often colourful New World parrots...."

Latin - āra - altar

newly served on the altar parrot? from the new world order?

Ara, genus, macaw

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ara_%28genus%29

[Nickolai]

Hi,

Concerning the videos.
One can fake the mole, the ears ...whatever.
The guy in the original video has very nice sincere eyes. Though I can tell for myself.
The guy in the yellow robe is totally different with or without mole, ears and so on, look into his eyes. Either he is a great actor or a real maniac...lol Very evil eyes!

Did anyone think about the posibility that there could be many Sal Contis (plural...))) in Nasa?

And yes, Bill! I also trust that the mole is his because in opposite case that would be just vulgarily cheap effect...))

Nickolai

[SilentFeathers]

The mole is irrelevant to me but Bill has a point about the ear lobe. I also went through many frames and there are angles to where without some creative software enhancing/magnification stuff they look exactly the same to me, but looked different in certain frames too.

30 years ago I ran into a dude that looked just like me and actually had the same make and model of car I had, right down to the same color, it was quite freaky to say the least.....Sal and Vidal could easily be two different people. (But IMO I think they're the same person).

The article from NASA about the probes going in to the Van Allen belt is a tasty morsel in this investigation. Coincidence? perhaps.

Keep plugging away, it would in my opinion be better to prove this to be fake than real....being fried to death by radiation doesn't sound too appealing to me.

[13th Warrior]

US, if he is an actor, it would also mean that we have a liar sending us this message- as he states emphatically in the video that he is not an actor.

Have you seen "The Blair Witch Project"?

[Christine]

Has anyone else noticed his hands? They caught my attention. The size and shape of his fingers in both videos is very similar. I took a couple of screenshots. I don't think they are conclusive, but then maybe there is a hand analysis specialist on the forum. Also on reviewing the videos again I noticed there are shots of his finger nails, worth checking out.

http://projectavalon.net/Sal_Conti_hands_800.jpg

http://projectavalon.net/Frank_Vidal_hands_800.jpg

I agree with Bill that we need to use all of our powers of discernment here. Neither outright dismissal or outright acceptance. What I feel, intuit and project are based on my own particular set of criteria - experiences and beliefs. Here we have the opportunity to come together as a community and use our combined efforts to dig out the truth on this.

For the record, IMHO - I do not find or need to hear this man Dr. Sal or know that Frank Vidal is an actor to confirm what I already know or believe. If he is telling the truth then it only helps point toward a possible timeline, if he is lying it doesn't change things one bit. I still must do the work I am called to do.

If I take this as a detective game then it could be quite fun. And we may all learn something in the process.

Christine

[Tony]

The point is, say if this were true...what on earth can anyone do about it?
How are we going to save millions of people?
What's the big plan?

To keep worrying about every prediction just is not healthy, it's going to wear you down.


jHPOzQzk9Qo

[MorningSong]

The actor "Vidal" and "Dr. Sal" look like the same person to me... but that is only my opinion.... If "Dr. Sal" is a false prophet, I hope he gets his comings up!

The possibility of the Van Allen Belt collapsing is a more intriguing matter to me.

I found this article written by Patric Geryl, author of "The Orion Prophecy" in which he mentions this possible event (I addd the bold print):


Will a huge disaster wipe out all humanity in 2012.

The ultimate catastrophe.

One man who believes that we shall very shortly see the full horrors of a polar reversal, and a disaster that will make even the South East Asian catastrophe insignificant by comparison is author Patrick Geryl. In a feature written specially for this site, he tells of the nightmare vision that he believes will befall this planet in 2012, when by his estimate billions may die.

Below is his account and vision of how this awesome catastrophe will occur.

The World Cataclysm in 2012

In my book, The Orion Prophecy, I came to the staggering conclusion that the earth will be subjected to a huge disaster. The cause: the magnetic field of the earth will reverse in an instant, resulting in catastrophic consequences for humanity. Immense earthquakes will flatten all buildings on earth; while continents will shift thousands of kilometres and an all-demolishing tidal wave will leave billions of dead people behind. In my book I scientifically reveal the millennia-old codes of the Maya and the Old Egyptians, which refer to this super-disaster.

Staggering conclusions

The Dresden Codex of the Maya, for instance, contains the secrets of the sunspot cycle. The conclusions that follow are even more staggering. At a certain moment, when the sun's magnetism reaches a crucial point, the sun's surface will be subjected to immense storms. Enormous electro-magnetic forces will then be liberated - with unknown strength - from the interior of the sun. Giant sun-flames will send a gigantic wave of particles to the earth.


What Will Happen?


The particles that are spewed out will set the earth's atmosphere "in flames" and have a real destructive effect on the Van Allen belts. Because of the continuous stream of electromagnetism, the magnetic field of the earth will get overcharged. Trillions of particles will reach the poles. Unknown electric forces will be generated, a nightmare for everybody involved.

Short circuit of the electromagnetic field.

When the poles are filled with auroras from the falling particles, the inevitable will happen: the earth's inner electromagnetic field will get overcharged and will crash. A mega short-circuit with super lethal effects. The planet's entire atmosphere, without magnetic protection, will be bombarded by falling particles.

The earth’s magnetic field functions to protect us by directing the electromagnetic particles to the poles, but this would become impossible.


Polar Reversal and Pole Shift

The iron core of the earth is magnetic. Because of the switching of the magnetic core, the earth will start to rotate in the other direction! Because of this, the outer earth’s crust will break off! In other words the outer layer will be "floating." It will be on the loose, no longer attached to its "master." If you are on the planet at that moment, it will tilt some thousands of miles in a couple of hours. Looking up in the sky it will seem as if "the sky is coming down," as it is described in the old scriptures! Giant quakes will occur. Earth plates will be moving, mountains will be rising where first there was nothing, land masses will break open and collapse, mountains collapse, land will sink into the ocean, volcanoes erupt in many places. In short, the most terrible nightmare cannot be terrible enough to describe this world's destruction.


They Calculated it!


Now you can ask me: are you sure of what you are saying? My answer: very sure, because the Atlanteans and their descendants the Maya and Old Egyptians knew a theory about the magnetic fields of the sun that even modern astronomers don’t know anything of! With this theory they were able to predict the worldwide flood of 9792 BC and the coming one in 2012! Here, I’m asking for your comprehension. I want you to understand that they CALCULATED the end of Atlantis - now buried under the South Pole. Again, they CALCULATED an even more violent end for us. That there is a link between 2012 and 9792 BC is undeniable (See my book The Orion Prophecy). If we keep ignoring these findings
- we will all die. All alarm bells should be ringing around the world!

Above account was written specially for this site by author Patrick Geryl.

http://www.nasca.org.uk/Asian_disaster/2012/2012.html


I do not necessarily endorse Geryls' presentations nor do I know his credentials, and I have not been a "fan" of his sad dooms day scenario. Bill, I know you and Kerry interviewed him and he also spoke at a public event with you guys. Could the info from "Dr. Sal" be based on Geryls' theory, obviously slipping the D-day to 2016?

[13th Warrior]

The video is BS and the guy is an actor.

More on the information he provides:

He seems to be up on the latest conspiracy talk; which is out of line with someone supposedly immersed in science.

He never once mentions anything about the content of the message; only NASA perfect interpretation of said message.

He is claiming that the only thing from keep in the vanallen belt from descending upon the Earth is the Earth's magnetic field.

He claims that the pole reversal is going to be uncharacteristically quick; ;which mean the magnetic field will be restored and renewed very quickly....so, how long will the alleged radiation take to descend upon the Earth?

I still see no evidence that the Earths magnetic field is anywhere near the point of magnetic reversal. We should be seeing much more aurora then we are, especially since we are in the middle of a solar maximum.

If we start seeing day time aurora; then i would start to worry.

[freespirit]

All these dire warnings seem to revolve around two issues.
The Sun and our magnetic pole.We know the suns going too flare big time, we just don't know when.Same goes for the pole.
I'm wondering if it's more like a horse race.The CME in first place. closely followed by the magnetic pole.

Shouldn't we be thinking more in terms of probability than time.

google the various threats see what's the highest.

[ED209]

I work with actors in a critical capacity everyday. A lot of them have credible day jobs that are not performance related and professional stage names that differ from their actual names. It is possible that Sal Conti could have a stage name. I don't believe the doomsday message from this guy comes from aliens, but objectively there is no reason why a mathematician can't have a drama hobby.

But still, I don't think an actual scientist would fill his message with cryptic conspiracy stuff because the message that a radiation belt might fry us all would be enough. He does not talk about his scientific methods very much. He also seems to employ scary phrases as a dramatic device.

The other thing that we need to keep in mind is that we are all spending (myself included) a lot of time worrying about potential otherworldly threats to our planet, meanwhile there are actual threats to our existence that are real and happening right now! Global warming, pollution, resource depletion, right?

Or what if NASA is talking to aliens, but the aliens are just big liars? Why would we assume that they are more ethical than us? Or more intelligent than us? We might not be at the bottom of the universal barrel intelligence wise. Also, we know that technological advancement does not equate with ethical concern because as we have become more advanced, we have not become more ethical.

[freespirit]

Ok, I did a few print screens. I think it's helpful to pull up the Dr. Sal video and one of the two Frank Vidal acting videos and listen to the voice. Here are the screen shots I took of Frank Vidal and "Dr. Sal".

It's the same person ! spread the word.tag tag

Thanks Unified

[Sierra]

Has anyone else noticed his hands? They caught my attention. The size and shape of his fingers in both videos is very similar. I took a couple of screenshots. I don't think they are conclusive, but then maybe there is a hand analysis specialist on the forum. Also on reviewing the videos again I noticed there are shots of his finger nails, worth checking out.

http://projectavalon.net/Sal_Conti_hands_800.jpg

http://projectavalon.net/Frank_Vidal_hands_800.jpg

I agree with Bill that we need to use all of our powers of discernment here. Neither outright dismissal or outright acceptance. What I feel, intuit and project are based on my own particular set of criteria - experiences and beliefs. Here we have the opportunity to come together as a community and use our combined efforts to dig out the truth on this.

For the record, IMHO - I do not find or need to hear this man Dr. Sal or know that Frank Vidal is an actor to confirm what I already know or believe. If he is telling the truth then it only helps point toward a possible timeline, if he is lying it doesn't change things one bit. I still must do the work I am called to do.

If I take this as a detective game then it could be quite fun. And we may all learn something in the process.

Christine

I used to do palmistry, and the hands are *very* different, both in phalange length and in lines. Note the height of the pads under the fingers. Note the double pad under the thumbs of one set of hands.

I strongly doubt the actor and the scientist are the same person.

[Maunagarjana]

Just message him on Twitter: https://twitter.com/filmscribe

From the picture on there, it looks like the same guy to me:

https://si0.twimg.com/profile_images/1142370352/Frank___Brenda_02.jpg

[MorningSong]

Thank-you for your ........., Bill. Very nice.

So the messenger or possible whistleblower is more important than the message...gotcha. And I am fine with that.

You want help him /save him from ridicule/ get him onboard, go for it... Did he come to you (or any other alternative media leader) for that help? No, he went to YT of all places!

If this guy is for real, with all the publicity the alt media is giving him, he and his career is minced meat anyway.

Remember, self-imposed saviors often get crucified....

Over and out.

[Unified Serenity]

US, if he is an actor, it would also mean that we have a liar sending us this message- as he states emphatically in the video that he is not an actor.

Yes, it would mean he is lying as is the person (could be frank vidal saying he is someone else) who posted the video, but it does not mean they are some psy op or government study to see how close we are to buying into this stuff. It could be someone who just wants to have a bit of fun at our expense. I actually don't mind coming across this stuff. We get to sort out the facts, and decide if we can be duped or not.

[bennycog]

if he was found out to be acting..
wouldn't we then ask who was behind it and why?

[Wind]

I knew that there was something wrong about that guy. I always trust my senses and almost 100 % always see through lies or acting. Also alot that he said didn't make sense at all. It's the same guy in those two videos, you have to be blind not to see or hear it. But why was that video made? Just for laughs or do they (who ever they are) want to distracts us from the events that are happening in 2012 and 2013?

[Carmody]

It is also interesting that the games closed and nothing went on and this is upon us in nearly the same breath, ie...immediately.

I am neither for nor against. Simply observing. Tactics are tactics, reasoning is reasoning, thinking is thinking (I hope!), And so on. Such things are different in and for all of us, individually.

[ThePythonicCow]

Look closely at the earlobe. (Besides, the birthmark/ mole on Dr Conti's left cheek is missing.)
Perhaps makeup could be applied to an ear to deform it, pushing the outer helix (http://www.sonoworld.com/images/FetusItemImages/article-images/face_and_neck/ear_anu_patil_images/ear_anatomy.gif) of his ear (especially the right ear) out a bit, or adding bulk to the fossa? The birthmark could be a dab of makeup?

[13th Warrior]

Look closely at the earlobe. (Besides, the birthmark/ mole on Dr Conti's left cheek is missing.)
Perhaps makeup could be applied to an ear to deform it, pushing the outer helix (http://www.sonoworld.com/images/FetusItemImages/article-images/face_and_neck/ear_anu_patil_images/ear_anatomy.gif) of his right ear out a bit, or adding bulk to the fossa? The birthmark could be a dab of makeup?

The first photos quality isn't sufficient enough to make a legitimate comparison.

[Wind]

Notice that the whole comment section of the video is now full of comments proving that the guy is an actor. Even Suspicious0bservers says that.

[Unified Serenity]

The thread had already moved past my post on page 9, and the images I first posted in it were attachments, so many probably did not see them. I hope you forgive me for reposting them. He appears to be the same guy as the one acting in those videos posts of Frank Vidal.

http://unifiedserenity.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/sal11.jpg?w=593 (http://unifiedserenity.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/sal11.jpg)

http://unifiedserenity.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/sal121.jpg?w=593 (http://unifiedserenity.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/sal121.jpg)

[Setras]

http://projectavalon.net/Sal_Conti_hands_800.jpg

http://projectavalon.net/Frank_Vidal_hands_800.jpg



whether it is or is not him there are plenty of people in the world that look like this...... in fact he looks a bit like me minus the birth mark. These picture actually reminded me of watching the TV show cash in the attic a few years back and the regular london auctioneer Tom Keen from Chiswick auction rooms..


https://si0.twimg.com/profile_images/1246919944/TomTwitter1.jpg

[ThePythonicCow]

Bill, look at Dr Sal's ear in his video exactly at 26:24 in his video.....

Your photo's are showing two different angles and the bottom of his lobe is missing in the pic on the left. Dr Sal's lobe looks much more like Vidal's when Sal turns to his left....
A closeup of his right ear, from a screenshot at exactly 26:24 in his video:
http://thepythoniccow.us/DrSals_ear.png

The actor's ear again, from Bill's screenshot:
http://thepythoniccow.us/Dr_Sal_Conti_ear_comparison_enlarged_trimmed.jpg
I am imagining that something placed behind the ear, pushing it out a bit, would account for the difference I see in Dr Sal's video, first of my two images above.

But I'm no ear expert ... nor was my Dad :).

[ED209]

It is very important to protect whistleblowers, to show them love, kindness, respect, and support.

But scientists operate from a baseline of skepticism and required proofs that are always up for questioning and reevaluation.

As for those hands...they do indeed look very different. The plot thickens!

BTW, the NASA website assigns a different name to the acronym SARA than Sal Conti. NASA says that SARA stands for Service and Advice for Reseach and Analysis. Not all NASA scientists are on NASA's direct payroll. Many of them are on university payrolls instead like at USC or CalTech.

¤=[Post Update]=¤

Here is a list of SARA program officers and their phone numbers:

http://science.nasa.gov/researchers/sara/program-officers-list/

[ThePythonicCow]

Think of your responsibility here. I'm going to say something very heavy. Hundreds of millions of people could die if we irresponsibly and prematurely trash a legitimate warning because we're all trying to be smart alecs.
The bastards in power know our tendencies well ... they could well discredit something close to the truth, by hiring a low budget actor to present a partially fictionalized account of something they know to be very real.

On the other hand, as I suggested in a much earlier post in this thread, Dr. Sal might be totally truthful in this video, but have been fed dishonest data via HAARP.

As with most such endeavors, we continue to have to look past, as best we can, the vagaries of human integrity and competence, to the underlying reality unfolding before us and within us.

[Unified Serenity]

ED209, your post as well as other's seems to indicate this is a hoax. I appreciate all the great investigators digging into this. I am comfortable with my assessment and each one of us must use our own discernment based on facts shared. I still think we need to clean up our world, end the wi fi pollution, and stop the destruction of our environment in a sane manner which does not mean mankind going back to primitive lifestyles.

We are capable of so much if we work together.

[Carmody]

It is very important to protect whistleblowers, to show them love, kindness, respect, and support.

But scientists operate from a baseline of skepticism and required proofs that are always up for questioning and reevaluation.

As for those hands...they do indeed look very different. The plot thickens!

BTW, the NASA website assigns a different name to the acronym SARA than Sal Conti. NASA says that SARA stands for Service and Advice for Reseach and Analysis. Not all NASA scientists are on NASA's direct payroll. Many of them are on university payrolls instead like at USC or CalTech.

¤=[Post Update]=¤

Here is a list of SARA program officers and their phone numbers:

http://science.nasa.gov/researchers/sara/program-officers-list/

heh heh..I wonder how many people know what an 'ED209' is? :p

[Unified Serenity]

Think of your responsibility here. I'm going to say something very heavy. Hundreds of millions of people could die if we irresponsibly and prematurely trash a legitimate warning because we're all trying to be smart alecs.
The bastards in power know our tendencies well ... they could well discredit something close to the truth, by hiring a low budget actor to present a partially fictionalized account of something they know to be very real.

On the other hand, as I suggested in a much earlier post in this thread, Dr. Sal might be totally truthful in this video, but have been fed dishonest data via HAARP.

As with most such endeavors, we continue to have to look past, as best we can, the vagaries of human integrity and competence, to the underlying reality unfolding before us and within us.

I completely agree with you on this pov. It would be just like the elites to release info with enough easily discovered lies that people turn away from the truth right in front of them. It's the entire goal of disinformation. Make the person sharing it untrustworthy or an outright fraud and thus the information is a lie, and that simply is not accurate. I think now, I want to ask us to look at the validity of the pole shift. We have vast records of past pole shifts, and it would probably be best to vett that truth now. I do not believe "Dr. Sal" is anything other than an actor.

[miqeel]

The point is, say if this were true...what on earth can anyone do about it?
How are we going to save millions of people?
What's the big plan?

To keep worrying about every prediction just is not healthy, it's going to wear you down.


jHPOzQzk9Qo

Thank you Sir, you always seem to put things in the right perspective, IMHO anyway. If it is going to happen, it is going to happen - and with the amount of predictions happening all over the Truth Internet, its jut not feasible to worry about every single one anyway. I completely wholeheartedly agree.
It is always the desire to know, to be sure, to find out, to check, to research, to know more.. its cool if done with discernment and in healthy dose.
I wish I could always remember that, seeing all the predictions, whistle-blows and the likes. I cant though.

Anyway, I checked the Yale Library for his thesis, and it hasn't come up in the search. Maybe its not listed, maybe it doesn't exist, I don't know.

[meat suit]

so, looks like he is an actor....
who wrote the script and commissioned the film?

[gooty64]

It's a case of a double whammy meets a triple cross on a fork in the road timeline derailing a trainwreck while filtering through the annals of time enveloping the cosmic wonder -in a nutshell!

[Jean-Luc]

Anyway, I checked the Yale Library for his thesis, and it hasn't come up in the search. Maybe its not listed, maybe it doesn't exist, I don't know.

Good job.

This is what I was suggesting here: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?48483-Warning-from-NASA-Scientist-stating-Aliens-warn-of-massive-threat-coming-to-Earth&p=537334&viewfull=1#post537334

I guess this means you have access to this database: http://resources.library.yale.edu/online/dbsbysubjecthfxml_info.asp?searchfor=med&lookfor=YUL03922
Correct? Please be more specific, this should help settle the issue.

If it's not there when there is no reason it shouldn't, I think we can go and take a cup of tea and wait for a week of two before more serious information comes out, if any.

After all, the time frame for the doom was in years and is not in weeks.

[Carmody]

All those things considered, I'm not dismissing the message of solar situations.

Deniability is a big thing in government circles.

There is more to human reality than a surface analysis can bring. Or... more than 'animal body parts of a complex duality being' doing the interpretation of the message.... can bring.

I'm largely up for anything that slaps humanity in the face, into some state of awareness of who and what they are. Different horses for different courses,and thus different messages for the 7 billion individuals who are incarnating on this planet.

If one has ever done any teaching, one of the fist things they learn in order to be effective for a group, is that the message cannot be repeated "ad nauseam" (repeat to point of nausea) in one way only, but that it must be transmitted ad nauseam in a million different ways, if necessary.

Considering the complexity of the message, it will need to be -and is being- repeated a million different ways in a million different places.

[ThePythonicCow]

I used to do palmistry, and the hands are *very* different, both in phalange length and in lines. Note the height of the pads under the fingers. Note the double pad under the thumbs of one set of hands.
To my untrained eye, the hands and thumbs look similar.

Is there anyway you could explain to me, until I "get it", what you're seeing? Perhaps we two could have that discussion in a side chat, and I could then post images highlighting what you're seeing and have told me.

[Delight]

We have to go slowly and carefully here. What would be the greatest tragedy is if this warning was real, and we all dismissed it because of lazy mass internet opinion. I learned back in Serpo days that "reality" is defined on the internet by the "vote" of public opinion -- regardless of the truth. It was an important lesson to learn.

Think of your responsibility here. I'm going to say something very heavy. Hundreds of millions of people could die if we irresponsibly and prematurely trash a legitimate warning because we're all trying to be smart alecs.

If Dr Conti (and Enrico De Luca) are real, then they may be very discouraged by the skeptical response. They may respond by posting another video, and producing credentials. But equally, we may never hear from them again. Which would you prefer?

Hummm..... I know people who have spent thousands on freeze dried foods, supplies and even underground bunkers etc.. This must end up as trillions if you count up all the government and personal spending. There are so many waiting for that Big Juicy Disaster to happen AND yet be able to say " I survived". I appreciate the idea that every time a prophecy is made, that so very powerful being hears, refuses to agree and voila" Nada Poof Wham Bam, Yippee...Sun's up and Sky's Blue. I am beautiful and so are you......

Yes, there have been catastrophes but just dip into any GuidePosts and ask around for all the miraculous just in time miracles.

Who is that so powerful being? You guessed it....

(me) HAHA. And you thought I meant God. Well, yes. I meant That too. Maggie

[Mutchie]

WHY would this guy release a video sounding so sincere if it was all BS .... for fun ? to be noticed ?

Im very interested to find out about this subject .... if he is for real then fine he is doing everyone a big favour but if he is lying "well"

I FOR ONE WILL NOT BE HAPPY...some people will believe it and may be really frightened for family etc "I hope he isnt a hoaxer"

[Unified Serenity]

I used to do palmistry, and the hands are *very* different, both in phalange length and in lines. Note the height of the pads under the fingers. Note the double pad under the thumbs of one set of hands.
To my untrained eye, the hands and thumbs look similar.

Is there anyway you could explain to me, until I "get it", what you're seeing? Perhaps we two could have that discussion in a side chat, and I could then post images highlighting what you're seeing and have told me.

I looked at his palms as well, and the position of the thumbs as in if they are forward, relaxed, or back can change the appearance. I could not tell enough out of the pictures posted to get an accurate comparison. His voice sounds the same though in the videos, and that to me is the biggest give away.

[Christine]

heh heh..I wonder how many people know what an 'ED209' is? :p

I had to look up your cryptic message. Now I know what / who ED209 is. Thanks

[greybeard]

When all is said and done it would seem that things are cyclic and for sure change is happening,
The Mayans are perhaps not so much "fortune-telling" guessing at the future, but pointing to a cycle-- something that is documented in their history as part of recurring events.
I dont see the opening video as bringing new news just giving a possible date.
There have been scientists like David Sereda, for years, speaking of energy coming from the centre of the universe which is already affecting all our planets and when it fully arrives will cause the sun to emit a massive burst of energy which will affect humans and earth---- that may cause a new heaven and a new earth in a twinkling of an eye or something else.
It could be so total that storing food and underground shelters is unnecessary-- however no harm in having a bit extra food and water to hand.
From my perspective everything is a it should be.

Chris

[ThePythonicCow]

We have to go slowly and carefully here. What would be the greatest tragedy is if this warning was real, and we all dismissed it because of lazy mass internet opinion. I learned back in Serpo days that "reality" is defined on the internet by the "vote" of public opinion -- regardless of the truth. It was an important lesson to learn.
For me at least, the observer part of me is rather separate from the acting part of me.

The observer seeks to understand, and does so best if not particularly concerned with the outcome. It happily tolerates long periods of confusion, conflicting appearances and distractions. As a software engineer, I could drive my managers nuts, when I told them the software would be ready when it was ready, never mind that I might be fired or the company go bankrupt first.

The actor in me, when it decides that opportunity or necessity requires action, goes hell bent for leather with whatever half baked scheme it decides on. As a software manager, I could drive the engineers working for me nuts, with my carefully worked out PERT and GANTT charts, checking each scheduling milestone to the fractional day.

I for one at least, at present on this thread, am (mostly) in observer mode, well except for some rather semi-automatic and for the most part quite minor actions I take as a forum admin, making minor editing improvements in posts.

I sense that yourself, Bill, and some others here, who have been in this endeavor far longer than I have been, are more in the acting mode. Crunch time is coming, and it's rapidly coming time to stop talking the talk, and instead start walking the walk. There's far more on the line than just one man's job, or one corporation's solvency.

[Sierra]

http://projectavalon.net/Sal_Conti_hands_800.jpg

http://projectavalon.net/Frank_Vidal_hands_800.jpg

I used to do palmistry, and the hands are *very* different, both in phalange length and in lines. Note the height of the pads under the fingers. Note the double pad under the thumbs of one set of hands.

I strongly doubt the actor and the scientist are the same person.

Hi Paul, Hi U.S.

OK some of the differences I noticed.

Phalanges are the bones and flesh between the three finger joints.

Top phalange: Mental
Middle phalange: Emotional
Bottom phalange: Physical

Length of phalange shows focus of energy. Notice the top phalange of the first finger (Mental, Jupiter, leadership). The actor has a longer Jupiter mental phalange than the scientist. The scientist tip of finger is pointed (greater imagination) whereas the tip of the finger of the actor is more rounded.

The scientist thumb phalange is longer than the actor's thumb phalange, greater will.

The big pad under the thumb, is the Venusian pad. The scientist Venus pad is thicker than that of the actor's Venus pad. The scientist pad has to go down into the life line. The actor's Venus pad is level with the life line.

The fingers go Index(Jupiter) the bird finger (Saturn), the next to last finger (Apollo) and the last finger(Mercury). On the actor's hand, the Saturn finger leans or is closer to the Jupiter finger, showing a dependency (most people have a leaning together of the Saturn and Apollo fingers, showing dependency in relationships). Same with the pads underneath, named for the finger above that pad.

The scientist has one well developed pad under Mercury. Mercury is science, communication. His focus/energy is primarily science/communication. You can see the next door Apollo and Saturn pads are relatively flat.

On the actor's fingers, he is much more well rounded. All of his pads are developed, well rounded, EXCEPT for the Mercury pad, which is blurred and red on one hand, also his Mercury finger is bent at the top phalange joint (bent is weakness, reduced energy flow through the finger tips).

The double pad has a distinct line on the actor's hand. If you look at the scientist hand, you will see the pad tends to follow the line of the lifeline curve, not a distinct roundness next to the thumb.

Heartline (directly under the pads under the fingers) on the scientist goes up between the index and birdie fingers (heterosexual), whereas the heart line on the actor's hand seems to go straight across or not up between or on fingers. Hard to tell.

Headline and career line very clear on the scientist's hand, not so on the actor's hand.

The hollow in the center of the hand is deeper on the scientist hand than the actor's hand.

There is not enough detail to go into lines, whorls, stress lines, finger nails etc. Nor do I know which is the dominant hand (current life progress) and the recessive hand (progress already made in previous lifetimes).

Hope this clarifies why I do not think these are the hands of the same person. :)

Sierra

[nearing]

I am convinced that he is an actor. His ears were pushed out with putty from behind and he made a mole (all common in acting).

The point now is why go on YT with this made up message? Just to see if your acting is good enough to fool thousands? Hmm.

[13th Warrior]

http://projectavalon.net/Sal_Conti_hands_800.jpg

http://projectavalon.net/Frank_Vidal_hands_800.jpg

I used to do palmistry, and the hands are *very* different, both in phalange length and in lines. Note the height of the pads under the fingers. Note the double pad under the thumbs of one set of hands.

I strongly doubt the actor and the scientist are the same person.

Hi Paul, Hi U.S.

OK some of the differences I noticed.

Phalanges are the bones and flesh between the three finger joints.

Top phalange: Mental
Middle phalange: Emotional
Bottom phalange: Physical

Length of phalange shows focus of energy. Notice the top phalange of the first finger (Mental, Jupiter, leadership). The actor has a longer Jupiter mental phalange than the scientist. The scientist tip of finger is pointed (greater imagination) whereas the tip of the finger of the actor is more rounded.

The scientist thumb phalange is longer than the actor's thumb phalange, greater will.

The big pad under the thumb, is the Venusian pad. The scientist Venus pad is thicker than that of the actor's Venus pad. The scientist pad has to go down into the life line. The actor's Venus pad is level with the life line.

The fingers go Index(Jupiter) the bird finger (Saturn), the next to last finger (Apollo) and the last finger(Mercury). On the actor's hand, the Saturn finger leans or is closer to the Jupiter finger, showing a dependency (most people have a leaning together of the Saturn and Apollo fingers, showing dependency in relationships). Same with the pads underneath, named for the finger above that pad.

The scientist has one well developed pad under Mercury. Mercury is science, communication. His focus/energy is primarily science/communication. You can see the next door Apollo and Saturn pads are relatively flat.

On the actor's fingers, he is much more well rounded. All of his pads are developed, well rounded, EXCEPT for the Mercury pad, which is blurred and red on one hand, also his Mercury finger is bent at the top phalange joint (bent is weakness, reduced energy flow through the finger tips).

The double pad has a distinct line on the actor's hand. If you look at the scientist hand, you will see the pad tends to follow the line of the lifeline curve, not a distinct roundness next to the thumb.

Hope this clarifies why I do not think these are the hands of the same person. :)

There is not enough detail to go into lines, whorls, stress lines, finger nails etc.

Heartline (directly under the pads under the fingers) on the scientist goes up between the index and birdie fingers (heterosexual), whereas the heart line on the actor's hand seems to go straight across or not up between or on fingers. Hard to tell.

Headline and career line very clear on the scientist's hand, not so on the actor's hand.

The hollow in the center of the hand is deeper on the scientist hand than the actor's hand.

Sierra

It's the same freaking guy; how much more obvious does it have to be?

Same nose (notice the crease on his nose ridge)
Same head shape
Same brow ridge
Contrary to Bill's expert ear analysis they look the same to me
Cheek bones and chin are the same
Upper lip to lower lip ratio is the same
The facial symmetry is identical

The right hand looks the same to me just looking at the major feature most visible of the palm with the ratio of pad above the crease to the amount of palm below; they look to same except for the dimple in the pad of the thumb.

And, you don't have to be an intuitive to see it!
I groan every time i hear Kerry say it and now Bill...

What ever happened to the "signal to noise ratio"?

[bogeyman]

Um get the person to prove themselves. That he worked at NASA and his is a Doctor then proceed. Only he can do that. FOIA isn't valid to personnel records unless the person is dead. Only he can authorized that. Facts first then proceed.

[syrwong]

Here we are have basically two dichotomous approach to getting the truth, similar to the western and Islamic approach to justice. They are A. Innocent unless proven guilty and B. Guilty unless proven innocent. Which is better? No matter what, Dr. Conti will have to respond to Bill’s invitation, a must to defend for himself, and possibly saving many lives. Yes, a whistle blower has to defend/prove that he is genuine.

[airaspect]

Compare each part of the face one by one on the pictures that were provided in this thread.

Cheeks are identical (see the third line of photos provided by US). Nose is characteristic and looks the same for both persons. So does the chin. Lips - there's similarity but hard to say. Skull shape is the same.


Apart from "dr Sal" himself, isn't it nice to see people working together to get to the truth ? We do share the same goal, wouldn't You agree, Frozen Alchemy.

edit: 13th Warrior beat me to it :)

[Sierra]

It's the same freaking guy; how much more obvious does it have to be?

Same nose (notice the crease on his nose ridge)
Same head shape
Same brow ridge
Contrary to Bill's expert ear analysis they look to same to me
Cheek bones and chin are the same
Upper lip to lower lip ratio is the same
The facial symmetry is identical

The right hand looks the same to me just looking at the major feature most visible of the palm with the ratio of pad above the crease to the amount of palm below; they look to same except for the dimple in the pad of the thumb.

And, you don't have to be an intuitive to see it!
I groan every time i hear Kerry say it and now Bill...

What ever happened to the "signal to noise ratio"?

Well, I'm not invested either way. Just reporting on the differences I see. As well, the noses are not the same. The scientist nose is an extremely straight "Grecian" bridge, not so on the actor.

Just saying. :)

Sierra

[bogeyman]

He could be telling the simple true, but if that's the case were do you go? What consist of proof, but then is that the case here?

[araucaria]

It's the same freaking guy; how much more obvious does it have to be?

Same nose (notice the crease on his nose ridge)
Same head shape
Same brow ridge
Contrary to Bill's expert ear analysis they look to same to me
Cheek bones and chin are the same
Upper lip to lower lip ratio is the same
The facial symmetry is identical

The right hand looks the same to me just looking at the major feature most visible of the palm with the ratio of pad above the crease to the amount of palm below; they look to same except for the dimple in the pad of the thumb.

And, you don't have to be an intuitive to see it!
I groan every time i hear Kerry say it and now Bill...

What ever happened to the "signal to noise ratio"?

Well, I'm not invested either way. Just reporting on the differences I see. As well, the noses are not the same. The scientist nose is an extremely straight "Grecian" bridge, not so on the actor.

Just saying. :)

Sierra

Yes Sierra

But part of being an actor is about changing one's physical features just as much as necessary and as little as possible :)

Edit: The Van Allen Belt should be nothing to worry about: ask the Apollo astronauts...

[Wind]

Maybe he has an identical twin who is an inmate? ;)

...Or maybe he's just an actor. Sometimes you just have to admit that you were hoodwinked.

[13th Warrior]

It's the same freaking guy; how much more obvious does it have to be?

Same nose (notice the crease on his nose ridge)
Same head shape
Same brow ridge
Contrary to Bill's expert ear analysis they look to same to me
Cheek bones and chin are the same
Upper lip to lower lip ratio is the same
The facial symmetry is identical

The right hand looks the same to me just looking at the major feature most visible of the palm with the ratio of pad above the crease to the amount of palm below; they look to same except for the dimple in the pad of the thumb.

And, you don't have to be an intuitive to see it!
I groan every time i hear Kerry say it and now Bill...

What ever happened to the "signal to noise ratio"?

Well, I'm not invested either way. Just reporting on the differences I see. As well, the noses are not the same. The scientist nose is an extremely straight "Grecian" bridge, not so on the actor.

Just saying. :)

Sierra

Hi Sierra,

We look at the same photos and see different things; i guess that's normal.

[Sierra]

Yes Sierra

But part of being an actor is about changing one's physical features just as much as necessary and as little as possible :)

Yes Araucaria :)

But have you ever seen an actor change their palms? Hardly seems like something necessary for a role.

And as 13th says, we see what we see.

Okay, sorry for the digression! Back to topic! :offtopic:

[bogeyman]

Are people mentality socially capable of dealing with this information? It cannot be there fore it isn't? Not from your point of view but the mass point of view, whose only interest is survival." Take everything into consideration." (Dr. Walker).

[Tarka the Duck]

Bill said
Not a Spanish accent.

I am still convinced he does have a Spanish accent and he is not Italian by birth as he says he is...

IF the two men - Frank Vidal/Sal Conti - turn out to be the same person, this (for me) would explain the accent: I agree with US that their voices sound very similar.

Here is Frank Vidal's page on Twitter:

Cuban-American, with an ancestry that includes Spanish and French, among others. Two beautiful daughters (Rosanna, 20 and Nicole, 17). Married to Brenda.
Houston, TX, USA

http://twitter.com/filmscribe

[Sidney]

Found this statement on another forum thread.





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This man sat the on the board of the NASA team at GSA 2011, I did not stick around to see if he gave any speeches... I was shocked when I saw his face in the video before watching it since it was somebody I have personally seen in real life..I have never been a "Doomtard" but I will personally verify that regardless of what he says may be true or not, he did at least represent NASA at a scientific meeting...

This was posted be a General Lee over at TOP so...

https://gsa.confex.com/gsa/htsearch.cgi?...sort=score

I have been looking for a reference to "Nasa" "JPL" "Conti" etc.

Nothing yet.




Here is the link.

http://intellectualodditiesnetwork.com/showthread.php?mode=linear&tid=12015&pid=97430

[Bill Ryan]

The Van Allen Belt should be nothing to worry about: ask the Apollo astronauts...

According to Henry Deacon, here:

http://projectcamelot.org/livermore_physicist_4.html





remarkably – some advanced technology was borrowed: a lightweight nano tech-skin shielding combined with a charged-field technology were utilized on some of the craft to provide very effective radiation shielding, combined with other technologies used to protect the astronauts from Gamma and other hazardous radiations and energetic particles during the journeys.

Henry edited that section himself, after I'd drafted the page and passed it by him for his approval to publish. Those are his own words. What he's saying is that we were only able to pass through the Van Allen belt with the help of ET technology. Encasing the Apollo capsules in lead would have made them impossibly heavy.

Interestingly, Dr Pete Peterson -- in a different loop -- reported that the Apollo missions could not have taken place because the astronauts would have been fried. (Peterson said he did not know about any ET shielding assistance.)

From the transcript (http://projectcamelot.org/lang/en/dr_pete_peterson_part_1_bill_ryan_en.html) of Part 1:





BR: Now, what that implies, then, is that we could never have made it to the Moon in the way that it had been advertised that we went to the Moon because everyone would’ve been fried. Is that too simplistic a conclusion?

PP: Well, that’s my conclusion.

[araucaria]

Sorrry Bill, I should have saved you the trouble with a smiley :)

@Sierra: bald actors can gain a shock of hair and vice versa, I suppose a pair of gloves can do the same for the hands.
But as I said a couple of pages back, the bona fides will not automatically validate the message.

[Unified Serenity]

Hi Sierra,

THanks for the detailed analysis. I too am familier with palm reading and the lines. I think we both know that comparing these gentleman's hands in two very different positions makes it hard to get an accurate determination of how exactly they do line up, LOL. If we could find an image of them open and facing us in the same way, then it would be much easier. My issue is with the angles, lighting, and even weight differences can affect hands. Granted he's not a woman, but even water retention can change ones hand appearance for puffiness etc.. It takes a while granted, but hands can change, and we don't know how far apart these images are in the timeline.

Thanks for your input. I am not 100% in either corner, but I am very much more in the line of it's a hoax, and think the voice information and facial features are key. The hands is a good angle, but these pictures do not give enough to go on for me to make a determination. I looked for other images but could not find any which would be better to compare. I really wish we could just do a voice analysis, and if there is anyone on the forum who can run it through analysis please do so.

[ExomatrixTV]

http://unifiedserenity.wordpress.com/tag/frank-vidal/ ???

~but then again: 'claim of a hoax can also be a hoax', if you are a skeptic, be careful not to fall for the same trap you accuse others of doing ... lol

cheers,
John

[Sierra]

Hi Sierra,

THanks for the detailed analysis. I too am familier with palm reading and the lines. I think we both know that comparing these gentleman's hands in two very different positions makes it hard to get an accurate determination of how exactly they do line up, LOL. If we could find an image of them open and facing us in the same way, then it would be much easier. My issue is with the angles, lighting, and even weight differences can affect hands. Granted he's not a woman, but even water retention can change ones hand appearance for puffiness etc.. It takes a while granted, but hands can change, and we don't know how far apart these images are in the timeline.

Thanks for your input. I am not 100% in either corner, but I am very much more in the line of it's a hoax, and think the voice information and facial features are key. The hands is a good angle, but these pictures do not give enough to go on for me to make a determination. I looked for other images but could not find any which would be better to compare. I really wish we could just do a voice analysis, and if there is anyone on the forum who can run it through analysis please do so.

Voice analysis would do it for sure, right? You have to have specialized equipment to disguise a voice ...

[ROMANWKT]

Carmody did I not read your thread not long ago about Teslas communicating with aliens that was instant, when the military found out they shut him down, and Marconi then diminished the system down from going beyond the speed of light?? and wasn't that from the RCA control, that's what did not make sense to me, its still stuck there in my mind, that this guy does not know that they have communication beyond speed of light towards anywhere in the universe.

Is it also not possible that the great actor within want to do the same stunt as the guy who created the fear on the radio in the 50s with the war of the worlds

regards
roman

[Rocky_Shorz]

Bill, look at Dr Sal's ear in his video exactly at 26:24 in his video.....

Your photo's are showing two different angles and the bottom of his lobe is missing in the pic on the left. Dr Sal's lobe looks much more like Vidal's when Sal turns to his left....
A closeup of his right ear, from a screenshot at exactly 26:24 in his video:
http://thepythoniccow.us/DrSals_ear.png

The actor's ear again, from Bill's screenshot:
http://thepythoniccow.us/Dr_Sal_Conti_ear_comparison_enlarged_trimmed.jpg
I am imagining that something placed behind the ear, pushing it out a bit, would account for the difference I see in Dr Sal's video, first of my two images above.

But I'm no ear expert ... nor was my Dad :).

he was part of the superhuman experiment...

notice how his ears swing around to focus on signals...

one of the only people capable of receiving a numeric signal and automatically be able to translate and communicate back...

the ET was only looking for an answer to a Sudoku puzzle playing in a timed game...