The Krill report

[Steven]

Hi everyone,

I would like some input of people that know a bit more about the Krill report made by a person named O.H. Krill

Bill Cooper provides a very interesting explanation about this report and I'de like to know more from members who have any information about it.

Here is the introduction from Bill Cooper : http://www.ufocasebook.com/krillintro.html

Here is the report itself : http://www.ufocasebook.com/krill1.html

Thanks,

Namaste, Steven

[Scott]

Reading it now, so far its rather interesting :)

[Fredkc]

Gee, I haven't read the krill stuff since about 1988.
Tempus Fugit (means I'm re-reading it too)

Fred

[Steven]

:) Fred, it makes me think of a great guy with whom I started my career in electrical networking at Hydro-Quebec. He was very experienced. I was is apprentice. He knew a lot, had done a lot, but he had also forgotten a lot!

Namaste, Steven

[Fredkc]

http://fredsitelive.com/fun/rofl.gif

You made me think of a couple things...
From "Major League":
Rick Vaughn: You put snot on the ball?
Eddie Harris: I haven't got an arm like you, kid. I have to put anything on it I can find. Someday you will too. ;)

and from my machine shop days:
Master: So you think you know it all, eh?
Apprentice: Well, you did say you taught me everything you know.
Master: Maybe so, but I didn't teach you everything I learned while teaching you. ')

Fred

[RedeZra]

the KRLL papers


John Grace aka Val Valerian is allegedly the co-author of the KRLL papers with none other than John Lear who admits to the fictional fabrication of these papers


MJ-12 and William Cooper

http://www.ufoevidence.org/documents/doc579.htm


Val Valerian runs the Leading Edge Research website

http://www.trufax.org


Valerian has published articles about Alex "Andromeda" Collier

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_autor_valvalerian.htm



In this article there is connections between Val "KRLL" Valerian Alex "Andromeda" Collier Drunvalo "Merkaba" Melchizedek John "Fly High" Lear and Laura "Cassiopaea" Knight-Jadczyk

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vida_alien/esp_vida_alien_32.htm


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[Scott]

John Lear spoke about this already in 2004 on ATS, he stated:

I am john lear. Years ago I flew missions for CIA but in 1983 started flying for plain old airlines (like ATA, Rosenbalm, Kalitta, Kitty Hawk Int'l)). KHI went bankrupt in May 2000 and I turned 60 in Dec. 2002, so no more flying for me. I was tired of it anyway.

About the Krill papers. John Grace (Val Valerian) and I met in 1988. John worked at Nellis AFB and I lived (and still live) just up on the hill overlooking Nellis. We both had an interest inUFO's and pooled our research. Because of the controversy surrounding the Krill papers I reread them a few months ago so that they are fresh in my mind. It was essentially what John and I felt was going on at the time. There was no deception involved. Later, a friend of mine, Chris Lambright asked about the name Krill. Krill is a play on words of CRLLL an alien that contacted the Pentagon in the early 50's. (no joke) John Grace was in the USAF at the time he wrote the Krill papers and didn't want to put his name so we decided to put "Krill" as the author as an inside joke and play on words to "CRLLL". I told Chris the name was an inside joke and he took the statement to mean the whole thing was an inside joke, which it was not.

Whole thread available here : http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread39039/pg1

[Steven]

Thanks a lot Aztar and Redezra for your contribution,

Redezra, I think you are very quick at making the krills report to be hoax. I agree that Bill Cooper might have suffered from paranoia. But it doesn't mean all that he said in his books was wrong and fabricated. The way you connect the dots in your post is that Val Valerian aka John Grace had fabricated the haox and John Lear confirmed it. Then you link Alex Collier and other people with John Grace has they are logically all liars. That's way too easy and convenient to discredit them all. Ultimatly, you link Laura-Knight Jadczyk, Alex Collier and Drunvalo Melkizedek altoghether with a paper written by LKJ. It doesn't prove much, especially taken from a channeled message received by LKJ. Keep investigating, the truth is between the lies ;)

Here is John Lear on ATS clarifying the Krills report and the confusion around it.

Quotes: 'The Krill papers were not a hoax. The were an honest 'Estimate of the Situation' as perceived by me and Val Valerian. The story that they were a hoax came from Chris Lambright, a close friend, who I was telling about an interview Bill Cooper and I did for PM Magazine in Salt Lake City. Bill Cooper told PM Mag. that he had seen the Krill Papers while in the Navy. I got Bill alone and told him he was crazy that Val had written them less than 3 months previous to that interview. I further told him that the name O.H. Krill was my idea because Val didn't want to use his real name as he was then on active duty with the USAF. I told Chris that "Krill" came from CRLLL, an alien allegedly contact by the Pentagon in the middles 50's. And the "O.H." part was just made up. Chris then said to me "Then it was a hoax?" I said "yes" referring to the name O.H. Krill. Chris made the assusmption that I meant the whole document (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread59978/pg1#). I tried to contact Chris several months ago to clarify the situation and found that he had passed away last year.'

The whole thread here : http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread59978/pg1

I find interesting that the Krill papers are very close to what Marshal Vian Summers has written in 'Allies of humanity' book 1 and 2. It is also interesting to compare the 'New Paradigm' series channeled from George Green with the Krill report. Many information are confirmed. Maybe all fabricated, maybe.

About the name O.H. Krill or Val Valerian or Alex Collier, etc... I think we have to brought back in our perspective the 60's and 70's context. When it was easily turned into ridicule to simply beleive ET where real. When the Roswell incident and all activities linked to this incident was still very hot topic. Personally, I would have also create fantasy name to protect my identity. And if he was completly wako, why Bill Cooper has been eliminated?

Namaste, Steven

[RedeZra]

Redezra, I think you are very quick at making the krills report to be hoax. I agree that Bill Cooper might have suffered from paranoia. But it doesn't mean all that he said in his books was wrong and fabricated. The way you connect the dots in your post is that Val Valerian aka John Grace had fabricated the haox and John Lear confirmed it. Then you link Alex Collier and other people with John Grace has they are logically all liars. That's way too easy and convenient to discredit them all. Ultimatly, you link Laura-Knight Jadczyk, Alex Collier and Drunvalo Melkizedek altoghether with a paper written by LKJ. It doesn't prove much, especially taken from a channeled message received by LKJ. Keep investigating, the truth is between the lies ;)

And if he was completly wako, why Bill Cooper has been eliminated?



Steven, I'm not indicating that Bill Cooper was a wacko at all but a true champion of the Constitution

Convinced that he had been set up to believe in the existence of aliens - he coined the phrase 'Ufoology' - he set out to unmask those behind the alien hoax

Cooper was also leading the way in uniting the various local and regional militia organizations in the United States into a nationwide underground army

He was eliminated because he was too dangerous to the US government



http://www.radionewjerusalem.com/New%20RNJ/cooper.htm

archived Cooper broadcasts
http://www.remnantradio.org/Archives/articles/William%20Cooper/WC.htm

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the bottom line is that the governments want us to believe that ET is here

so those that propagate the alien existence beneath on or above earth are most likely set up or deceiving deliberate

[Steven]

Ah! Thanks for the clarification RedeZra. We're on the same track.

Maybe you can tell me something about the Crim-Ram files ; http://www.angelfire.com/space/branton/CrimRam.html

Have you heard of these? If yes, what do you think?

Namaste, Steven