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Cidersomerset
16th August 2012, 12:49
Update on Julian Assange case.......


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Published on 15 Aug 2012 by AlJazeeraEnglish


The fate of WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange could be known as early as Thursday. He is still
holed up in London's Ecuadorean embassy, seeking asylum. Ecuador's Foreign Minister says
the UK has threatened to enter the embassy and arrest Assange. Al Jazeera's Renee Odeh has the details.


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Published on 16 Aug 2012 by RussiaToday
Britain's Foreign Office says Julian Assange will be denied safe passage out of the country - even if he's granted asylum by Ecuador - LIVE UPDATES



THE GUARDIAN ON LINE.......

Julian Assange Ecuador embassy row - live coverage

Get the latest news and reaction as WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange awaits a decision on his application for asylum and a diplomatic row brews between UK and Ecuador

http://m.guardian.co.uk/ms/p/gnm/op/view.m?id=15&gid=/media/2012/aug/16/julian-assange-ecuador-embassy-asylum-live&cat=media

1.41pm:
Patino adds:


We can state that there is a risk that he will be persecuted politically...

We trust the UK will offer the necessary guarantees so that both governments can act adequately and properly respect international rights and the right of asylum.

We also trust the excellent relationship the two countries have will continue.
1.38pm:
Asylum is granted

Ecuador is to grant political asylum to Julian Assange, says Patino.

wynderer
16th August 2012, 12:52
dog & pony show -- re USA assaults on Central & South America, check out the history of all those countries whose People attempted to elect a true leader, esp in the last 50-60 yrs, & my country's part in putting a stop to that right quick

Cidersomerset
16th August 2012, 13:10
dog & pony show -- re USA assaults on Central & South America, check out the history of all those countries whose People attempted to elect a true leader, esp in the last 50-60 yrs, & my country's part in putting a stop to that right quick

I know Wynderer its been going on for decades.....I know you saw this thread I put up the other day, but the CIA and the economic hitmen have been meddling with up and coming countries /economies
as part of the TPTB agenda. Taking over from the 19th century imperial powers, the same families have just changed suits and countries !!

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?48513-Secrets-of-the-CIA-How-to-Mess-up-the-world---

wynderer
16th August 2012, 13:35
yes -- as they used to say, 'It's a rum go, matey!'

you seem to share my interest in history -- it seems to me that the centuries -old [if not millenial -old] plan for complete control of planet Earth began to pick up speed up in the late 1800s, & then began snowballing w/WWII

i always check out your threads -- interesting topics always -- thanks

wyn





dog & pony show -- re USA assaults on Central & South America, check out the history of all those countries whose People attempted to elect a true leader, esp in the last 50-60 yrs, & my country's part in putting a stop to that right quick

I know Wynderer its been going on for decades.....I know you saw this thread I put up the other day, but the CIA and the economic hitmen have been meddling with up and coming countries /economies
as part of the TPTB agenda. Taking over from the 19th century imperial powers, the same families have just changed suits and countries !!

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?48513-Secrets-of-the-CIA-How-to-Mess-up-the-world---

Cidersomerset
16th August 2012, 14:36
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Billy
16th August 2012, 14:49
Julian Assange, the founder of WikiLeaks, has been granted political asylum by Ecuador.
http://news.uk.msn.com/live-updates/julian-assange-asylum-row

• Mr Assange said being granted political asylum by Ecuador was a "significant victory"
• The Foreign Office said the UK will carry out their "binding obligation" to extradite Mr Assange
• The Australian national hopes to avoid extradition to Sweden where he faces sex assault allegations, which he denies
• The Swedish Foreign Ministry says it has summoned Ecuador's ambassador over the decision

She said there was practically no precedent for the situation, invoking the case of a Hungarian cardinal Jozsef Mindszenty, who camped out at the U.S. Embassy in Budapest from 1956 to 1971.

"One can't see Mr. Assange doing the same thing," she told BBC television. "One side will have to back down eventually."
by Natalie Thomas, Press... 3:39 PM
"We're at something of an impasse," extradition lawyer Rebecca Niblock said shortly after the news broke. "The U.K. government will arrest Julian Assange as soon as he sets foot outside the embassy but it's very hard as well to see the Ecuadorean government changing their position."
by Natalie Thomas, Press... 3:39 PM
Mr Assange's recognition as a political refugee by Ecuador's leftist government was a big symbolic victory for the embattled ex-hacker, but it did little to answer the question: "How will he ever leave the embassy?"
by Natalie Thomas, Press... 3:38 PM
Stockholm Foreign Ministry spokesman Anders Jorle said Thursday, "We want to tell them that it's inacceptable that Ecuador is trying to stop the Swedish judicial process."
by Natalie Thomas, Press... 3:27 PM
The decision to grant Mr Assange asylum may interrupt British efforts to extradite the Australian ex-hacker to Sweden, where he is wanted for questioning on sexual misconduct allegations. Assange is currently hold up in Ecuador's embassy in London
by Natalie Thomas, Press... 3:31 PM

more updates here. http://news.uk.msn.com/live-updates/julian-assange-asylum-row

wynderer
16th August 2012, 15:14
i still think it's dog & pony show -- in light of , say, Agenda 21

Corncrake
16th August 2012, 15:39
I am ashamed of the UK's bully boy tactics. As for Julian Assange ... where does he go from here?

sdv
16th August 2012, 15:58
If I remember correctly, Assange was interviewed by the police in Sweden about these allegations, and then was allowed to leave the country by Swedish authorities. There are still no formal charges against him, and no new evidence that changes the situation at the time he was questioned at all, and I don't see how further interviews with him can be useful in any way under the circumstances.

Shame on the UK government. Did you know that the UK is harbouring someone wanted for murder in another country and they have rebuffed all efforts from that country to have this UK citizen extradited to stand trial (for the murder of his wife, for which there is enough evidence for formal charges, and for which the penalty if found guilty is not execution)? Hippocritical double standards.

Shame on those two women in Sweden. Maybe they need to step into the real world and find out what rape actually is and see what happens when a baby gets raped (full-on penetration from a fully grown man - it happens every day).

Should we get together and send food parcels to Assange? :hippie:

Davidallany
16th August 2012, 16:15
I am ashamed of the UK's bully boy tactics. As for Julian Assange ... where does he go from here?

The truth is that all governments do not represent the so called it's citizens. It's not what a government can do for a citizen but rather how to manipulate, consume and utilize a citizen to serve a government.

Cidersomerset
16th August 2012, 16:19
If I remember correctly, Assange was interviewed by the police in Sweden about these allegations, and then was allowed to leave the country by Swedish authorities. There are still no formal charges against him, and no new evidence that changes the situation at the time he was questioned at all, and I don't see how further interviews with him can be useful in any way under the circumstances.




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This is wierd but each country have different systems .......It explains
some of the confusion. But still odd is it a crime or not !! seems political
though the Lawyer denies it...If the women feel they were raped or
molested of course this is serious, but again sounds odd !!!


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Borgström defended the alleged serial killer Thomas Quick very badly, he just wanted the money and he has friends in higher places. He is a good friend of the Assange prosecutor Marianne Ny! Both are politicians - Social Democrat Party of Sweden. They are only interested in votes & fame.

From Swedish magazines:
Something that should also be called into question is the influence of Quick's solicitor Claes Borgström in getting his mentally ill client convicted of multiple murders without a shred of evidence.

Someone who is especially to blame for what happened is our current equality minister Claes Borgström who took on the case after Quick's first solicitor. Richly compensated with taxpayer money for several years, Claes Borgström failed to look after the best interests of his mentally disturbed client.

Claes Borgström did not want to respond to the criticism directed at him for his representation of Thomas Quick but he'll get another chance. And how will the Swedish bar association rule that a defence solicitor should behave when a mentally ill client wants to confess to crimes he's not committed?

ED209
16th August 2012, 16:39
My heart goes out to Julian Assange. I have so much respect and sympathy for him.

Bill Ryan
16th August 2012, 16:43
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In the Ecuadorian newspaper El Telégrafo this morning:

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Cidersomerset
16th August 2012, 16:54
Fro The Guardian On line....

5.28pm:
William Hague, the foreign secretary, has made it clear that Britain will not give Assange safe passage to South America. He told a press conference:



We will not allow Mr Assange safe passage out of the United Kingdom, nor is there any legal basis for us to do so. The United Kingdom does not recognise the principle of diplomatic asylum.

More when we have it....

5.36pm:
Hague denied there was any "threat" to the Ecuadorean embassy. He said:


This could go on for some considerable time.



Lizzy Davies

guardian.co.uk, Thu 16 Aug 2012 10.14 BST





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5.46pm:

Diplomatic asylum is not a concept recognised by Britain- and even for those countries which do recognise it, it should not be used "for the purposes of escaping" the courts, he said.



We will not allow Mr Assange safe passage out of the United Kingdom, nor is there any legal basis for us to do so. The United Kingdom does not recognise the principle of diplomatic asylum.

It is far from a universally accepted concept: the United Kingdom is not a party to any legal instruments which require us to recognise the grant of diplomatic asylum by a foreign embassy in this country.

Moreover, it is well established that, even for those countries which do recognise diplomatic asylum, it should not be used for the purposes of escaping the regular processes of the courts. And in this case that is clearly what is happening.

http://m.guardian.co.uk/ms/p/gnm/op/view.m?id=15&gid=/media/2012/aug/16/julian-assange-ecuador-embassy-asylum-live&cat=media
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Cidersomerset
16th August 2012, 17:03
Julians mother on RT ......Reminds me of Janis Sharp Gary McKinnons mother , gives her thoughts on her son....

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While Julian Assange is awaiting Ecuador's decision on his appeal for political asylum, his mother Christine has traveled to the country to discuss her son's fate with President Rafael Correa.

Bill Ryan
16th August 2012, 17:04
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Astonishing stand-off. If the Ecuadorians lifted him out of the building by helicopter to drop him off on an Ecuadorian Navy vessel in international waters, would this start a shooting war?

Cidersomerset
16th August 2012, 17:21
Astonishing stand-off. If the Ecuadorians lifted him out of the building by helicopter to drop him off on an Ecuadorian Navy vessel in international waters, would this start a shooting war?

The CIA would probably send a hit/snatch squad to Equador.....But the chances of the Equadorians getting a helicoptor to a off shore craft I would say is nil ....The only way out has to be political...
The most sensible course would be for Sweden to arrange for a interview at the embassy.Which so far Sweden has refused to do ,If Swedish prosecutors could show that their case
was sound then Equador may allow Julian to go to Sweden but they may seek assurances from the international community that the US should not be able to extradite him.
Which is why Julian fled to the embassy in the first place!!

The other option is for the CIA to do their old trick and cause dissent within Equador....They have plenty of dirty money and experiance with this as the vid in the link of
post 3 explains.....Certainly not the end of the story !!

Molope
16th August 2012, 18:12
Still they coud caugh him on International Waters or kill him on Ecuadoria Territory whith Drones,Seal Teams or even poisoned who knows when USA wants someone dead they really do everything.

Magnus
16th August 2012, 18:31
It's so incredibly disgusting to witness how sovereign states of the world commit treason to it's people by surrendering to the will of the U.S. government, and doing so at the slightest hint from the U.S., acting like wuss-a** marionettes.

I'm indeed not proud of the country to wich i belong. :mad2:

Ecuador is doing a very admirable deed! :first::yo:

Cidersomerset
16th August 2012, 18:42
British officials tried 'Bully Boy' threats to stop Equador from granting assylum !!

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Interresting quote from Guardian on line...

7.45pm:
An interesting solution to the Assange standoff from his friend Tariq Ali, who suggests that Ecuador make Assange a citizen,
and then appoint him as an attaché to the embassy, therefore giving him diplomatic immunity.

I'm listening to channel 4 news and there Lawyer says the British government has to aprove
foriegn diplomats so Tariq Ali suggestion above is a none starter....They also pointed out
the cost of keeping police at the front and back exits 24/7, seems a waste of British Tax
payers money.Still the Polititions don't worry about that !!


There is a statement by William Haig British Foreign secretary on link if you can get it,,,

http://www.channel4.com/news/foreign-office-disappointed-at-assange-decision


Also from Guardian...

8.14pm:
Extradition expert Anand Doobay has just put paid to Tariq Ali's idea that Assange become a member of embassy staff in order to avoid arrest:
to be a diplomat in the UK, you must be accredited by the government.

Nickolai
16th August 2012, 18:45
I have found that by Googling this sl*t, Anna Ardin:

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/12/06/assange-rape-accuser-cia-ties/
I have no idea if this story is true but the whole "rape" stuff seems to be a phantasy.

Nickolai

Magnus
16th August 2012, 19:06
I have found that by Googling this sl*t, Anna Ardin:

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/12/06/assange-rape-accuser-cia-ties/
I have no idea if this story is true but the whole "rape" stuff seems to be a phantasy.

Nickolai

Just a small note:
Being a sl*t is a personal free choice of lifestyle wich we should detach from this plot.

What the actual "rape-victim" is involved in, is foul play at a deep level.

Nickolai
16th August 2012, 19:08
By the way don't you have a slight feeling that that is kind of turning point? Just a thought. If British start anything aggressive now, well, this will quickly move us to a different page of a history so to speak.

Just a thought...

Nickolai
16th August 2012, 19:18
Dear Magnus,

My fault. And you are right. She is not. But she is predator who uses the "rape" to cover the real truth.
For the very first time I have seen her photo and I was astonished. I would better believe that she had tried to rape Julian.

This woman actually has no profile on the Facebook. And on Twitter. Alas, for I would write her something...((

Baaad woman!

Marsila
16th August 2012, 19:23
Well this whole thing is an insult to real rape victims whose problems go beyond a cheap quality condom breaking with a person this lady looks like she couldn't wait to jump into the bed with!

But hmmmm....wonder if the Eurozones economic problems have anything to do with the more than frequent problems arising between it's members and different countries in South America of late....this is probably just going to be used as an excuse for something even bigger and more malicious towards resource rich Latin American countries if not contained intelligently.

Nickolai
16th August 2012, 19:30
Just a pfantasy, Marsila!

The UK gets the Assange. Equador breaks any connections with the UK. South America breaks any connections with the Kingdom, America and so on.
Russia, China join the South American countries and ... voila... New World Order.

That was sillly..:)

Marsila
16th August 2012, 20:09
LOL Nickolai...i think it is way much more complicated than that.

Amazing how "Swedish" 'authorities' kept refusing online interviews with Assange, and refused to answer an Ecuadorian request to learn more about the 'case' yet had the nerves to summon the Ecuadorian ambassador today after this?


http://rt.com/news/ecuador-decides-assange-fate-813/

araucaria
16th August 2012, 20:39
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Astonishing stand-off. If the Ecuadorians lifted him out of the building by helicopter to drop him off on an Ecuadorian Navy vessel in international waters, would this start a shooting war?

They'll find a more discreet way than that, I hope - maybe in a diplomatic bag, disguised as someone else, or through a secret tunnel to the Venezualan embassy, who knows.

It will be interesting to see how this plays out once he's on the other side...

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16th August 2012, 21:19
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Astonishing stand-off. If the Ecuadorians lifted him out of the building by helicopter to drop him off on an Ecuadorian Navy vessel in international waters, would this start a shooting war?

They'll find a more discreet way than that, I hope - maybe in a diplomatic bag, disguised as someone else, or through a secret tunnel to the Venezualan embassy, who knows.

It will be interesting to see how this plays out once he's on the other side...

Those of us who wish to support Julian and his work can show our appreciation by surrounding Julian and ourself with white light.

I'll start by getting quiet, shifting attention from my head chakras to my heart chakra and affirm "In joy, safety and harmony we step into the unknown". Then I'll notice whatever shows up, if anything.

Molope
16th August 2012, 22:01
If Julian puts an step outside the embasy even in a ecuatorian vehicle he will fall on UK Hands...so the problem now is that his only way is going out secrely which is....quite difficult IMO.

Nick Matkin
16th August 2012, 22:48
Could he not leave in a Diplomatic Bag? There are agreements that these bags are not searched.

Anyway, despite the title of this thread: "Mr Hague [Foreign Secretary] said there was 'no threat' to storm the embassy" says the BBC (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19281492), so it must be true.

nottelling
16th August 2012, 23:30
Nah, the only way I can see it happening is if he doesn't touch British soil at all between the embassy and his escape aircraft.

Here's one way -

Ecuadorian embassy has a locally-chartered helicopter placed on its list of Embassy vehicles. Said helo picks up Assange with either a caving ladder or a rescue sling.

The helicopter takes him to the airport and deposits him on the wing of an Ecuadorian VIP aircraft.

Of course the UK .gov only has to deny the helicopter's filed flight plan and the evil plot would be foiled before it began, but no doubt the news cameras would love such an escape and at the end of the day, that's what it's all about.

sandy
17th August 2012, 01:51
Well with any smarts they would have whisked him off a day or two before making the unofficial announcement, never mind the official announcement>>>>>>>>otherwise I will continue watching to see what all this game entails :)

I must say though, hats of to small countries like Iceland and Equator for standing up to the bullying tactics of tptb.

Cidersomerset
17th August 2012, 07:51
Well with any smarts they would have whisked him off a day or two before making the unofficial announcement, never mind the official announcement>>>>>>>>otherwise I will continue watching to see what all this game entails

I must say though, hats of to small countries like Iceland and Equator for standing up to the bullying tactics of tptb.

Hi Sandy , I think it was a spur of the momment decision, a week or so earlier Julian interviewed president of Equador on RT and the door was opened for Julian to seek assylum.
The vibes from his court case must have been negative and he was becoming desperate with all the psychological pressure on him. He also would not want to get the people
he was living with in anymore trouble as in aiding and abetting a escape. Remember they have all lost the money they put up for Julians Bail.

I do wonder if he still has his tag on ?

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During Assange's interview with President Correa for his series The World Tomorrow, the two men clearly struck up a bond. Was it during this interview that Assange first got the idea of claiming asylum from a sympathetic Ecuador?

Calling him "my dear Julian", the immediate rapport between Assange and President Correa is obvious. "Are you having fun with this interview Julian? Me too", Correa laughs. Discussion swirls around their mutual mistrust of the USA. "The last thing I'd be is anti-American, however I will call a spade a spade", asserts Correa, as he details his controversial and furious counter-offensive against US interests in Ecuador: after Wikileaks published damning US cables, Correa threw the US ambassador out of the country. "Wikileaks has made us stronger", the president insists. As the colourful interview draws to a close, Correa offers these heartfelt words of comfort to Assange: "Welcome to the club of the persecuted!"

Cidersomerset
17th August 2012, 08:05
This is amusing and very ironic for people of the cold war generation that the shoe is now on the other foot....
RT is now one of the most open news agencies !! There is still many problems in Russia and I am not deffending
that. But these Rich western 'Banksters' and Polititions are such hypicritical SH***s it makes me sick !!!!

Three excellent reports from RT reporters an guests !!!

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Published on 16 Aug 2012 by RTAmerica


The Wikileaks founder's saga is nearly over: Julian Assange was granted asylum by Ecuador this morning after hiding out in the country's embassy in London for two months
while facing extradition to Sweden. But the picture wouldn't be complete without the reaction from the United States, who has accused the whistleblower for revealing some
secret information through the website. RT correspondent Marina Portnaya has more.


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Julian Assange's story caused turmoil across the globe: while some praise him, the whistleblower has been hated by others for revealing ugly truths about the elites. RT's Ramon Galindo has an update about another group of high profile and influential people that are on Assange's side. He joins RT's Liz Wahl from Los Angeles.

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Julian Assange has been finally granted asylum by Ecuador after spending two months in the country's embassy in London. But British authorities threaten to arrest him as soon as leaves the embassy building. He has been facing sex crime charges in Sweden, but the more serious accusation was awaiting him in the US for publishing some inconvenient truths about the country's political tactics abroad. RT's Kristine Frazao has been following the story closely and brings the latest from the White House

Cidersomerset
17th August 2012, 08:44
Millions of humans have been imprisoned or killed over the centuries and many more still are.If imprisoned Julian will be in good company....They may create a Martyr for the digital age !!


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Top 10 Famous Political Prisoners

The listing is irrelovent as all pursecution is deplorable but gives you some examples...

http://uptenlist.com/politics/top-10-famous-political-prisoners/

The first what we would call modern political concentration camps started during the Boar War.

http://southafrica-for-dummies.com/image-files/apartheid_in_south_africa_concentration_camp.jpg

http://southafrica-for-dummies.com/different-perspective-on-apartheid-south-africa/

Thru to the more familier camps in Nazi Germany , The Gulags of Soviet Russia
The Chinnese re-education camps and many other oppressive regimes have found
to murder their citizens.....Today this is still going on and there is a worrying trend
to what is being set up in the US with the FEMA camps !!

araucaria
17th August 2012, 08:52
Well with any smarts they would have whisked him off a day or two before making the unofficial announcement, .

Maybe they did?

Robert J. Niewiadomski
17th August 2012, 08:55
If Assange is a man of integrity he should spare the trouble for the People of Ecuador and turn himself in to the UK police. If he is not guilty of alleged rape accusation from Sweden women he will be fine. What is he afraid of? Safety of his body? There are countless ways of killing someone covertly. If they want him dead he would already be cold as a stone... Look what Breivik or Holmes did. They are alive, well and safe in the confines of police custody... No one tries to kill them for killing others. Would you think that Sweden wants to kill Assange for rape allegation? That is the reason he is going to be extradited to Sweden. To face rape allegations. If it has no legs his lawyers will easily pull him out of trouble.

Please Julian, don't be an as***ole. Take the responsibility for your own behavior and spare the trouble for the People of Ecuador.
Look at that this way: wikileaked information is out on the loose. Killing Assange body will not make that information disapear... And you can not kill a person. Only the body can be defeated. Not the person indwelling the body temporarily :)

Ixopoborn
17th August 2012, 09:01
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Astonishing stand-off. If the Ecuadorians lifted him out of the building by helicopter to drop him off on an Ecuadorian Navy vessel in international waters, would this start a shooting war?

Indeed astonishing. I too have been watching this story very closely since it broke at the back end of 2010. A snippet of a protest letter I then sent to the Prime Minister's office follows:

However embarrassing it gets, the UK government should take no action to interfere with the freedom of Wikileaks to publish any information it receives.

The very future of democracy is in doubt unless the UK government now makes clear its unrestrained support for freedom of speech and freedom of expression including all that Wikileaks has and might in the future publish. Let the British government act proactively and be the first to announce new and improved standards of transparency in all diplomatic and international relations.

Now, the UK finds itself in a convenient bind, largely of its own making - it cant let Assange go to Ecuador without flagrantly breaking international law. For my taste, turning a blind eye to a helicopter escape does not quite cut it as a way out for the UK.

Who blinks first?

Will the USA pressurise the Ecuadorian government to back down? Very doubtful given the local media support indicated in one of Bill's earlier posts on this thread.

Will the Swedish government break the deadlock by sending 2 detectives to interview Assange inside the Ecuadorian embassy? Very doubtful given the fact that this easy and extremely cheap solution has been avoided like the plague by the Swedes all along.

Will the Ecuadorians make Assange a citizen of Ecuador and then appoint him as a diplomat to make it possible for an exit from the embassy untouched? Possibly - this would test the Brits severely but I dont think they would arrest Assange under these circumstances as it creates too much of a precedent for tit for tat type arrests of British diplomats in foreign countries.

Will Assange attempt a break out? Very unlikely - he is just way too smart to criminalise himself in that way - not unless mission success is 100% guaranteed.

Will public pressure cause the UK or Swedish government to back down? The realist in me says that public backing for Assange will not ever become big enough for this be realistically possible.

In the current paradigm, Assange is properly stuck inside the embassy. A shift in paradigm is something I want but is, lets face it, unlikely for at least 5 years. Will that mean Assange is stuck for 5 years or longer? - probably in my opinion.

Sweden has already broken all rules of common sense by spending vast sums on extradition proceedings all to pursue a matter which is not yet a chargeable crime! This simple fact is enough for me to be sure beyond doubt that the whole point of the extradition to Sweden is to enable extradition from there to the USA where a death penalty awaits Julian served on a plate.

The reason I watch this story so closely is that, to me, it is a "bell weather" test on how close we are to a shift in our paradigm. My comments above read very pessimistically insofar as that is concerned but I remain hopeful.:)

Marsila
17th August 2012, 09:02
Well with any smarts they would have whisked him off a day or two before making the unofficial announcement, never mind the official announcement>>>>>>>>otherwise I will continue watching to see what all this game entails :)

I must say though, hats of to small countries like Iceland and Equator for standing up to the bullying tactics of tptb.

Hi Sandy, politics and diplomacy is a game, and I think the Ecuadorians are actually very smart, and were planning on welcoming Assange in their embassy for as long as he wishes or is possible, so as not to cause a diplomatic crisis with the US and the UK.

But that sudden 'we will invade your embassy' was none-expected, and so as Cidersomerset said, this was a spur of the moment decision, and also a tactic to display and remind the authorities in the UK that Ecuador is a sovereign country and not a colony, or an 'inferior' country compared to the UK.
i don't think this is anywhere near over though...

Cidersomerset
17th August 2012, 09:10
Hi Robert I agree that Julian has a fine line here to decide on how far he should go.I don't think there is a chance of getting out of the UK. The building he is in is part of a bigger
building so i would have thought survailance has been stepped up and the Police outside are not the only obsticle to get out of the embassy.It would also be against his principle
to bring suffering to the people of Equador , I would have thought !!

Julian in the eyes of the elites is far more dangerous than Brievik and they are not worried about millions of deaths, thats what they thrive on thru the arms ind etc..
He has been letting out their dirty secrets/games to the mass public and they are pannicking , thats why all those american polititions are calling for his death as
a terrorist.Thats why Julian is afraid to go to Sweden because he knows he is being set up for a stay in The 'Guantanamo Hilton'..Cuba or some other leisure facilty..

Its entered the Mexican Stand off stage....

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Cidersomerset
17th August 2012, 09:17
Astonishing stand-off. If the Ecuadorians lifted him out of the building by helicopter to drop him off on an Ecuadorian Navy vessel in international waters, would this start a shooting war?
Indeed astonishing. I too have been watching this story very closely since it broke at the back end of 2010.

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The reason I watch this story so closely is that, to me, it is a "bell weather" test on how close we are to a shift in our paradigm. My comments above read very pessimistically insofar as that is concerned but I remain hopeful.



Thanks Ixopoborn a good assessment....As we know events and agendas can change quickly but from the elites point of view a bit like the Gary Mc Kinnon case which is due a resolution
( I must have a look at that) If they cannot cage them they will try to silence them !!

ThePythonicCow
17th August 2012, 09:56
it cant let Assange go to Ecuador without flagrantly breaking international law.

I read that sentence to mean "Letting Assange go to Ecuador would violate international law."

Is that what you meant? Or did you mean something opposite to that?

Cidersomerset
17th August 2012, 10:01
I read that sentence to mean "Letting Assange go to Ecuador would violate international law."

Is that what you meant? Or did you mean something opposite to that?

I'm not sure about that Paul , but he has now deffinately broken UK law by Skipping/jumping bale conditions....Although minor in the scale of things ...

HaveBlue
17th August 2012, 12:38
Surely if he was given asyym by Equador and then the UK denied him safe passage out this would be a massive breach of international law.
People (if you can call them that) such as the Chliean dictator Pinoche who murdered maybe 100,000 of his own people and was then basically pardoned by the UK system of (in)justice and allowed to keep millions of dollars of stolen money from the Chilean people.

Are these people? serious? Do they really think that Julian Assange/international hero is badder news that the likes of Pinoche?
Can the UK Govt get any more ridiculous?

It is starting to look like Gary McKinnon should also go and seek asylym at the embassy of Equador. If so maybe you could show him around when he gets there Bill and help him get on his feet.
I have no doubt that many of us would make decent donations to that cause and also it would hopefully give you enough to carry on your own mission, whatever that may be from here on.

If you were to just buy a wee place of your own and put your feet up for the rest of your life (although I can't see you doing that, those feet would get pretty itchy I think but then again maybe you are tired of travelling too! Being stuck in transit half your life does not seem like my idea of fun.

But if you were that way inclined, I'm sure we all agree here that you deserve it and that you have more than done your bit for humanity already.

Then it's just a wee hop over to Venezuala for Gary and Julian to really tickle the noodles of both the U.K. and the U.S. Govts !
Wouldn't it be great to see Julian, Gary and Hugo Chavez on youtube all doing a brown eye to those very Govts!?

Cidersomerset
17th August 2012, 12:51
I agree Haveblue thats why they have gotten away all thru history locking up activists ....Apparrently a law was passed in the UK after a policewoman Yvonne Fletcher
was shot and killed from someone in the Libyan embassy, on the lines that diplomatic immunity can be temporily suspended to stop future events like
that happening ( a loope hole).....It has not been used before and how they can justify it here is unbelievable and i hope the internatiol court of human
rights let the UK government know Julian is not murderer like Bush & Blair and most NWO polititions who have plenty of blood on their policies which
Julian and others are highlighting!!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/april/27/newsid_2502000/2502565.stm
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Wow ! I don't remember this back in the 90's channel four Dispatches programme
which have done some great expose's, presented a alternate version of PC Fletchers
murder by someone in a adjacent building....Onbehalfe of powers trying to destabalise
Gaddafi ....Sounds familier..Funny what new openings present themselves down the
rabbit hole !!

This is very relevant to Julian especially if they do try to use the new law to arrest
him in the embassy and just shows the powers the elites have to ignore the press
even when they get stories aired......



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This dispatches documentary which aired in the 90s refutes the official story that PC Yvonne fletcher was murdered by shots from the Libyan embassy. This is especially pertinent considering the media have dragged her death back in to the limelight to demonize Libya.

It suggests that she was killed by a gunman in an adjacent building used by the British security services. The film probes deeper, and finds evidence indicating that the murder was carried out by an anti-Gaddafi terrorist organisation backed by the CIA in a false flag operation.

By killing a British police officer and blaming Gaddafi's Libya, the plan, it seems, was to start a coup in order to remove Gaddafi and install a puppet regime to seize Libya's oil.

HaveBlue
17th August 2012, 13:01
Robert J Niewiadomski of Urantia/Warsaw/Poland your post assumes that the court systems of the UK and Sweeden are helmed of folks of the same integrety you want Julian Assange to show. It is a nice idea but just unrealistic really. the proof is in the pudding really so this is hardly just my opinion. Now a few facts.

Now that is the same bunch of folks that have kept Gary McKinnon from getting on with his life now for 10 years and no end in sight yet is it not?

The same bunch of folks that expect us to actaully believe that the 7/7 bomings in London were carried out by 4 young Muslims? And that Mr Peter Power (now that's a fake name if ever I heard one!) had nothing to do with it and they were carrying out a 'drill' for the exact same event just like 911 in the USA?

Are you serious man? You will have to excuse me for thinking words like 'naieve'.

Maybe you are just 'new', 'green' and unfamiliar with the reality of todays geopolitical situation. These people are just not like 'us'. They think differently. They make laws that we have to obey but they themselves do not. Kinda reminds me of when Saddam Hussein promised his own daughters husband forgiveness if he went back to Iraq after he had got out. He did go back and was exectuted!

Must go , my kids need help making their sock puppets! :rockon:

Bill Ryan
17th August 2012, 15:21
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A very thorough discussion of the issue on the Real News Network, by Baher Azmy, international human rights lawyer:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwoVfbpIPcI


Transcript:

PAUL JAY, SENIOR EDITOR, THE REAL NEWS NETWORK: Now joining us to discuss some of the issues arising out of this act by Ecuador and the response from the U.K. is Baher Azmy. He's a lawyer and professor. He works for the Center for Constitutional Rights, where he is the director of legal issues. And he currently works out of New York. And he joins us from there. Thank you very much.

BAHER AZMY, DIRECTOR OF LEGAL ISSUES, CENTER FOR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS: Thank you for having me.

JAY: So the British response has been they will not let Julian Assange go, in spite of the fact that Ecuador has given him asylum. What's your take on the legalisms of all of this?

AZMY: Well, there's a legal component and a political component. The legal component is under the sort of applicable international law and human rights regime, a state is supposed to honor the decisions of another sovereign granting an individual asylum and not undertake any kind of political retribution as a result of that. Indeed, the whole asylum system would fall apart if in granting someone asylum, a receiving country were to face political retribution from the sending country that was upset about it. But politically and [unintel.] problematically, this is a really kind of untoward show of force and bullying by the British government in not respecting the decisions of a sovereign country that they think, I guess, presume is not entitled to make this kind of sovereign decision.

JAY: Well, there's two parts to this. The first part was: on the eve of this decision, the British threatened to actually storm the embassy under some British law that was apparently really developed to deal with embassies that might be harboring potential terrorists, and clearly Assange is not that. But the British, I guess, are also saying, well, they don't think this is a political case; this is a misdemeanor or a criminal case arising out of Sweden, and that doesn't deserve political asylum. Does not Britain have the right to make that determination?

AZMY: No, I don't think so. I mean, there are two parts of the response. First, Assange is not suggesting that he fears extradition to—or he believes he will be persecuted by Sweden as such for the allegations relating to sexual impropriety. What he very credibly fears is that the Swedes would then very quickly turn him over to the United States government, and that is where he would assuredly face persecution for his political acts of whistleblowing and journalism and exposing U.S. government corruption and human rights violations.
And so I do think there's a very strong basis in the law for him to have asylum from the United States. And the British have no authority other than sort of blowing up diplomatic relationships—again, power, not law—to enter into an embassy of a foreign sovereign. And I think they should be concerned about the political repercussions in other countries if they do that then.

JAY: Now, one thing is, if the United States can ask Sweden to extradite Assange, why can't they just ask Britain to do it?

AZMY: Yeah, and this is an important question. I think there are a couple of powerful reasons why extradition from Britain is less likely, and, conversely, why extradition from Sweden is much easier. First, I think the treaty arrangements with Sweden provide for a kind of expedited extradition process with the United States. And so it would happen very quickly. Relatedly, there is no bails in Sweden, so Mr. Assange would be in jail and would have a very difficult time asserting an asylum petition from Sweden.
And we should note the Swedish record has been pretty bad on transferring individuals that the United States asks them to. They transferred an Egyptian national who had a very serious fear of torture to Egypt at the request of United States and the Egyptian government. This Egyptian—his name was Agiza—was then tortured by the Egyptian government. And then the other reason is I think that the law in England would make it harder for him to be extradited directly from England because of the political nature of the U.S. extradition. And Mr. Assange has far more legal and political support in the U.K. And so I think all the parties recognize it would be very hard to extradite them directly from the U.K.

JAY: Which is why, then, Assange and his advisers think Sweden's a more dangerous place to be. Now, what is the law on whether the UK has to allow Assange out or not? I was seeing today in the OAS, Organization of American States, signatories to that agreement actually have to let the person out if one of those states gives a person asylum. But there's nothing so directly obligating Britain, is there?

AZMY: You know, that's right. I'm not aware of any sort of particular treaty provision governing the safe passage, which isn't to say it doesn't exist. Just I think this is a fairly novel problem that doesn't often arise because of the broader humanitarian principle at work here, which is that one government should respect another sovereign's authority to grant somebody asylum. Remember, in the United States, the blind Chinese dissident Chen exiled themselves himself in the United States Embassy and applied for asylum there, and under these principles was off granted safe passage outside of the embassy and to U.S. soil. [unintel.] that same humanitarian principle is what should government here, instead the sort of assertion of brute force that the British are thinking about.

JAY: And so, assuming the Brits don't change their mind and they've taken a strong public stand on Thursday that they would not let him out, what happens? Is this like the Polish case where he sits there for who knows how long?

AZMY: Yeah, I think it at that point becomes a diplomatic and political struggle more so than a legal one. And it's hard to see how this will play out. I mean, I don't think the British government will look very good in this context. I think it looks a tad colonialist to not respect the decisions of Ecuadorian government. I imagine if you were in the U.S. Embassy, the British would be far more accommodating. And again, the difference here is not law; its power and power relationships between the U.K. and their lack of respect for the judgments of the Ecuadorian government..

JAY: Now, in some of the American coverage of this, I was uparticularly thinking of The New York Times today, which takes various shots at Ecuador and at Assange. But what's not coming clear and the coverage that most people are seeing—and it did come out from the press conference clip that we just showed—that Ecuador has offered the Swedes to come into the embassy and question Assanges. I don't quite get: what is Sweden's response to this? If the real objective is to question him, they could have done it when he was at large in the U.K., and they can do it now at the Ecuadorian Embassy. I mean, I don't get how they respond. Why don't they just go question him?

AZMY: That's a very important point. I mean, what's very clear is Assange, gain, is not worried about a criminal process in Sweden as such. And therefore he has offered that the Swedes come to interview him for as long as they wanted in the U.K. and also as part of the negotiations, the Ecuadorian government asked Sweden—and surely the British knew about this—asked Sweden for assurances that if you were transferred to Sweden, Sweden would then not extradite him to the U.S. And Sweden refused to give those assurances. Had they given those assurances, I think the Ecuadorians would have rightly believed wouldn't have been the basis for extradition, 'cause, again, what he's scared about is a U.S. persecutory process, not a Swedish criminal justice process.

JAY: And again, we've covered some of this on The Real News before, but it bears saying again: why does he think there is a process against him, him being Assange? What evidence is there that there is some kind of legal proceedings?

AZMY: So there is a—in addition to a fair amount of hysteria and sort of lynching mentality among politicians who routinely refer to him as a terrorist and a threat to national security, there is in fact a secret grand jury proceeding occurring at the district of Virginia where evidence is being taken against him, and even rumors that a secret indictment has already been issued. And we also know that the U.S. government isn't talking about dusting off this 100-year-old law, the 1917 Espionage Act, which was enacted specifically by the Woodrow Wilson administration to crush political dissent and political opposition in World War I. And so I think that's a sort of fitting or a very symbolic example of the kind of persecution he would face, because ultimately what the U.S. regards as a crime is protected political activity. It's journalistic activity. And the U.S. case law reveals that we routinely give asylum to foreign seeking asylum to the United States for whistleblowing activity in their home country, because to expose corruption and human rights abuses from a political regime is important politically, important activity that's protected by the refugee convention.

JAY: So if you put these two claims versus each other, Britain says they have a right to their due process; Sweden has a right to their process, they say; Ecuador says they have a sovereign right to grant asylum. In terms of international law and precedent, which argument trumps?

AZMY: As a general—there are, I think, some complications here because of the trilateral nature of this disagreement. But as a general matter, asylum law and the Refugee Convention, as well as the Convention Against Torture, trumps a government's desire to extradite someone. That's fairly [unintel.] I mean, if anyone is about to be extradited into a country where they will be persecuted, that person has a right to file an asylum petition with the transferring country, and the judge can block the extradition. So as a general matter, asylum trumps extradition.

JAY: Thanks very much for joining us.

AZMY: Thank you.

JAY: And thank you for joining us on The Real News Network.

Cidersomerset
17th August 2012, 15:26
The Murder of WPC Yvonne Fletcher -- Dispatches Investigation

That was an amazing documentry and you can see how the Alpha bet agencies with their contacts, slush funds
can make anything happen or influence events....The world of James Bond & 'Spooks' is far from far fetched
and the recent US series Rubicon which was stopped after one season because they were graphically showing
the world of intel, and the power elite !!

Cidersomerset
17th August 2012, 15:42
Thanks Bill thats the clearest explanation why Julian is not willing to go to Sweden as it is easier to get extradition from there.
They have been saying this for months and this is the best explanation I've heard so far !! ...Cheers...

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Published on 17 Aug 2012 by RTAmerica


For a couple of years the whole world has been following the fate of the most famous whistleblower on the planet - Julian Assange. The Wikileaks founder has been sheltered in the Ecuadorian embassy in London for the last two months, only being granted asylum by the country early Thursday. RT's Manuel Rapalo looks into the timeline of the events that brought the Wikileaks founder to where he is now.

wynderer
17th August 2012, 15:50
sorry for my comments that this is a dog & pony show -- i started a thread about Bradley Manning, who passed copies of mil documents to Julian Assange, & who is being badly treated in our military prisons -- if this is the quality of info on wikileaks, no wonder they're after Julian

yay Ecuador! for being willing to take him in

Setras
17th August 2012, 16:07
I like the idea of citizenship, then diplomatic appointment...... ohh the irony if he gets the Ecuadorian UN gig......

Failing that i have a plan "B"

i need a few tall people (about 1000 should do), roughly the same build as Assange (you know who you are), turn up at the Ecuadorian Embassy say....... next Tuesday...... go in to the embassy...... a few mins later....(think you see where this is going).... 1001 leave.....the "1" jumps on the back of a motor bike, down to the coast and boat to international waters to a waiting Ecuadorian navy vessel.....

Sign up below if over 6ft 3 and your free tuesday afternoon next week...... also need a biker and a boat......cheers in advance....

or as said, already gone........ but not in a diplomatic bag.... where do you buy 6 1/2ft diplomatic bags? Does it get chained some poor courier whose only in it for the cheep flight, can imagine this guy dragging assange in a 6 ft diplomatic bag through the airport chained to his wrist, whilst the police look on...... nothing to see move along........ you couldn't make this up..... oh i just did....

p.s. Has anybody got contacts in the Ecuadorian navy?

Cidersomerset
17th August 2012, 16:22
We get your drift Setras..LOL..

http://www.theendisnigel.com/john/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/smiths.jpg

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRglwmX9ExPdcSLSdTtjhoM-rpkI6_H-BjDMwtNa81DGBS6mGDpffPYaOHgzA

Setras
17th August 2012, 16:34
We get your drift Setras..LOL..

http://www.theendisnigel.com/john/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/smiths.jpg



Nearly right..... i will nip to tescos on the way and get some hair dye and a dark suit:cool:

http://www.letemps.ch/rw/Le_Temps/Quotidien/2010/11/05/International/ImagesWeb/Julian%20Assange%20%C2%A9%20Keystone--469x239.JPG

Peace of Mind
17th August 2012, 17:30
There are about 8 citizens with signs protesting his release in front of the British Consulate in NYC… and 4 police officers watching them. Just about everyone walking by is saying things like “who the hell is Assange!?” smh:flock::flock::flock::tsk:

Peace

bogeyman
17th August 2012, 17:47
Assange chances of a fair trial are almost none existence, the USG cannot afford to lose any court action against Assange. I personally believe the leaks of redacted information from the State Department, was a short sighted action on Wiki leaks part. Trained intelligence officers can make a great deal from some of those documents, since they have the insight and the training in gathering and analyzing information.

wynderer
17th August 2012, 18:04
Bogey, are you saying that some of the info on Wikileaks could be used to the detriment of the USA? -- i wish we lived in a world where there were no borders, no armies, no spying on each other, etc, but unfortunately that's not the world we are presently living in

tho i object to the harsh treatment of Bradley Manning -- jailed for giving info to Wikileaks -- as i object to such treatment of anyone, in one way i can understand the p.o.v. of those doing the mistreating -- from their p.o.v., he's a traitor


Assange chances of a fair trial are almost none existence, the USG cannot afford to lose any court action against Assange. I personally believe the leaks of redacted information from the State Department, was a short sighted action on Wiki leaks part. Trained intelligence officers can make a great deal from some of those documents, since they have the insight and the training in gathering and analyzing information.

bogeyman
17th August 2012, 18:16
Bogey, are you saying that some of the info on Wikileaks could be used to the detriment of the USA? -- i wish we lived in a world where there were no borders, no armies, no spying on each other, etc, but unfortunately that's not the world we are presently living in

tho i object to the harsh treatment of Bradley Manning -- jailed for giving info to Wikileaks -- as i object to such treatment of anyone, in one way i can understand the p.o.v. of those doing the mistreating -- from their p.o.v., he's a traitor


Assange chances of a fair trial are almost none existence, the USG cannot afford to lose any court action against Assange. I personally believe the leaks of redacted information from the State Department, was a short sighted action on Wiki leaks part. Trained intelligence officers can make a great deal from some of those documents, since they have the insight and the training in gathering and analyzing information.

Yes and to other countries. Sharing of information is important for security, if leaks of this kind of "unredacted" information cannot be secured, it can be very damaging to trust of other countries in sharing their information. Also some of the information, especially if that information was obtained from sources, those countries who are the subject matter of the documents will be able to back track, and locate the source and terminate that individual or individuals.

Ron Mauer Sr
17th August 2012, 19:47
I'll be happy when we are all telepathic and there are no secrets.
Then it would be more difficult to cheat and kill each other.
We then might need to grow up.

Corncrake
18th August 2012, 08:05
Such an interesting thread. Was particularly riveted by the Despatches piece on the Yvonne Fletcher murder - I remember when it happened but at the time was - sadly - not politically aware and just followed the herd. Thought I would just add Annie Mahon's (MI5 Whistleblower) perspective to the pot http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/annie-machon/the-assange-witch-hunt_b_1790851.html?utm_hp_ref=uk-politics

Cidersomerset
18th August 2012, 10:54
Thanks Corncrake she is a former whisleblower so worth a look and she
has come to the conclusion this is all about Political Revenge by the US....

The Yvone Fletcher case is also a eye opener and ties in with all these
dirty tricks agencies !!


http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTNqE1CqVRhk11madb2QWiqRZgmB-HmKrWdiZsbng-1n5OtmCpWHg


Annie Machon.

Director, LEAP, formerly MI5
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The Assange Witch Hunt


A storm of diplomatic sound and fury has broken over Ecuador's decision to grant political asylum to Wikileaks founder, Julian Assange. The UK government has threatened to breach all diplomatic protocol and international law and go into the embassy to arrest Assange.

The UK justifies this by citing the 1987 Diplomatic and Consular Premises Act, a law apparently put in place following the 1984 shooting of WPC Yvonne Fletcher from the Libyan Embassy in London. The murder resulted in an 11-day siege, and the embassy staff eventually being expelled from the country. Nobody has yet been brought to justice for this murder.

It is hard to equate the gravity of the crime that brought about the 1987 legislation - the murder of a policewoman - with Assange's situation. Despite the screaming headlines, let us not forget that he is merely wanted for questioning in Sweden. Nevertheless, the UK is prepared to overturn all diplomatic protocol and create a dangerous international precedent to "get their man", despite there being a clear lack of justification under the terms of the '87 Act.

Many people in the western media remain puzzled about Assange's fear of being held captive in the Swedish legal system. But can we really trust Swedish justice when it has been flag­rantly politi­cised and manip­u­lated in the Assange case, as has been repeatedly well doc­u­mented. Indeed, the Swedish justice sys­tem has the highest rate per cap­ita of cases taken to the ECtHR for flout­ing Art­icle 6 -- the right to a fair trial.

If Assange were extra­dited merely for ques­tion­ing by police -- he has yet to be even charged with any crime in Sweden -- there is a strong risk that the Swedes will just shove him straight on the next plane to the US under the legal terms of a "tem­por­ary sur­render". And in the US, a secret Grand Jury has been con­vened in Vir­ginia to find a law -- any law -- with which to pro­sec­ute Assange. Hell, if the Yanks can't find an exist­ing law, they will prob­ably write a new one just for him.

So why all the sound and fury? What is this really all about?

Wikileaks is a ground-breaking new form of high-tech, award-winning journ­al­ism that has exposed cor­rupt prac­tices across the world over the years. And crucially, in this war-torn, weary and financially broken world, it offers a secure conduit to whistleblowers who want to expose institutional crime and corruption for the public good.

Whis­tleblowers want to get their inform­a­tion out there, they want to make a dif­fer­ence, they want a fair hear­ing, and they don't want to pay too high a per­sonal price for doing so. Is that too much to ask?

By going pub­lic about ser­i­ous con­cerns they have about their work­place, they are jeop­ard­ising their whole way of life: not just their pro­fes­sional repu­ta­tion and career, but all that goes with it, such as the abil­ity to pay the mort­gage, their social circle, their fam­ily life, their rela­tion­ship... Plus, the whis­tleblower can poten­tially risk prison or worse.

So, with these risks in mind, they are cer­tainly look­ing for an avenue to blow the whistle that will offer a degree of pro­tec­tion and allow them to retain a degree of con­trol over their own lives. In the old days, this meant try­ing to identify an hon­our­able, cam­paign­ing journ­al­ist and a media organ­isa­tion that had the clout to pro­tect its source. While not impossible, that could cer­tainly be dif­fi­cult, and becomes increas­ingly so in this era of endemic elec­tronic surveillance.

Today the other option is a secure, high-tech pub­lish­ing con­duit such as Wikileaks. This provides anonym­ity and a cer­tain degree of con­trol to the mod­ern whis­tleblower, plus it allows their inform­a­tion to reach a wide audi­ence without either being filtered by the media or blocked by gov­ern­ment or cor­por­ate injunctions.

As someone who has a nod­ding acquaint­ance with the reper­cus­sions of blow­ing the whistle on a secret gov­ern­ment agency, I have long seen the value of the Wikileaks model - and I also understand quite why governments feel so threatened by it. After all, no government or mega-corporation wants freedom of information and transparency forced upon it, nor an informed citizenry questioning its actions.

Our governments like to spout the phrase "if you have done nothing wrong, you have nothing to hide" as they roll out yet another intrusive surveillance measure.

Wikileaks has turned that right back at them - hence this modern-day witch-hunt.

Follow Annie Machon on Twitter: www.twitter.com/anniemachon

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Ecuador Asylum: Victory for Assange, loss for US?

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Published on 17 Aug 2012 by RussiaToday


One of the key factors in Ecuador's decision to grant Assange asylum, was the danger he could face political persecution in the U.S.

The South American country also stressed the UK and Sweden's failure to guarantee that he won't be handed over to America prove that Assange's fears for his freedom and life are legitimate.

RT's Marina Portnaya looks at the part Washington's playing in the long-running saga.

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RT.com hit by DDoS attack, AntiLeaks claims responsibility

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Published on 17 Aug 2012 by RussiaToday


Published on 17 Aug 2012 by RTAmerica


RT's international website went offline after hackers launched a massive attack at RT.com. A hacker group calling itself AntiLeaks took responsibility over Twitter for the distribute denial-of-service (DDoS) assault. The attack disrupted RT's coverage of the Pussy Riot trial - the notorious punk rock band that staged a protest at Russia's Christ the Savior cathedral. RT's Tom Barton breaks it down.

Sounds like revenge by Pentagon Hackers!!!

Maia Gabrial
18th August 2012, 12:36
If I remember correctly, Assange was interviewed by the police in Sweden about these allegations, and then was allowed to leave the country by Swedish authorities. There are still no formal charges against him, and no new evidence that changes the situation at the time he was questioned at all, and I don't see how further interviews with him can be useful in any way under the circumstances.

Shame on the UK government. Did you know that the UK is harbouring someone wanted for murder in another country and they have rebuffed all efforts from that country to have this UK citizen extradited to stand trial (for the murder of his wife, for which there is enough evidence for formal charges, and for which the penalty if found guilty is not execution)? Hippocritical double standards.

Shame on those two women in Sweden. Maybe they need to step into the real world and find out what rape actually is and see what happens when a baby gets raped (full-on penetration from a fully grown man - it happens every day).

Should we get together and send food parcels to Assange?

My opinion is that you can't RAPE the willing....

Bill Ryan
18th August 2012, 13:48
i need a few tall people (about 1000 should do), roughly the same build as Assange (you know who you are), turn up at the Ecuadorian Embassy say....... next Tuesday...... go in to the embassy...... a few mins later....(think you see where this is going).... 1001 leave.....the "1" jumps on the back of a motor bike, down to the coast and boat to international waters to a waiting Ecuadorian navy vessel.....

Like this? (Returning the painting -- the ingenious climax of The Thomas Crown Affair)

:)



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0KK0msnLhw

Cidersomerset
18th August 2012, 14:39
Yes Just like that Bill ....LOL......I like that !!!!

araucaria
18th August 2012, 15:15
i need a few tall people (about 1000 should do), roughly the same build as Assange (you know who you are), turn up at the Ecuadorian Embassy say....... next Tuesday...... go in to the embassy...... a few mins later....(think you see where this is going).... 1001 leave.....the "1" jumps on the back of a motor bike, down to the coast and boat to international waters to a waiting Ecuadorian navy vessel.....

Like this? (Returning the painting -- the ingenious climax of The Thomas Crown Affair)

:)



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0KK0msnLhw

I remember seeing this film when it first came out. It was double-billed with The Graduate, which has a similar climax: the girl goes into church with one man, marries him, and leaves with another.

I enjoyed the nod to Magritte and the 'This is not a landscape' joke. It isn't a landscape, but the rain is for real.

Double thanks double Bill!

Edit: this is a remake of the original Steve McQueen/Faye Dunaway movie I saw, which was over cash, not a painting (no wonder my teenage memories were hazy). Which takes the whole thing onto a whole new level: Ceci n'est pas L'affaire Thomas Crown!

Cidersomerset
19th August 2012, 11:20
Julian Assange expected to make statement
19 August 2012 Last updated at 10:44 Help Julian Assange is expected to make a public statement later on the diplomatic row that has engulfed him since being granted asylum by Ecuador.

Wikileaks says its founder is to speak outside the Ecuadorean embassy in London, where he has been since June.

He faces extradition to Sweden over sexual assault claims, which he denies.

The BBC's Andrew Plant reports from outside the embassy where crowds have gathered throughout the morning.
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I'l put it up if he does ....and when its available,,

K626
19th August 2012, 12:00
The UFO file will be released if the Americans kidnap him.

araucaria
19th August 2012, 12:06
The UFO file will be released if the Americans kidnap him.

If so, do you prefer him in Ecuador or in the US?

astrid
19th August 2012, 12:34
LIve now from here, statements of support,

Julian speaks soon...

http://rt.com/on-air/assange-statement-embassy-ecuador/

Less delay here..

http://reuters.livestation.com/demo

Cidersomerset
19th August 2012, 13:10
Thanks Astrid , My Avalon connection went down as soon as I sent you thanks and went on RT sight ..LOL..
I thought " HELLO".....glad to see you posted link they are awaiting Julian now I think ??

Anyway the statement was brief....He looked well and after thanking his hosts asked
for the US to stop persacuting whistleblowers on behalfe of the rich and powerfull and
highlited a couple of current cases......

astrid
19th August 2012, 13:11
Ok... deleted that part cos it was obviously BS..

astrid
19th August 2012, 13:35
Same... my connection went also, keep getting the " server busy " message

Camilo
19th August 2012, 13:54
The whole thing is very suspicious, the Ecuadorian president is known to be a suppressor of free press, and now he's giving political asylum to the guy who's the world biggest advocate of free press. What a paradox.

Cidersomerset
19th August 2012, 13:57
A related Story ...

K_eLkGAuCeA

Published on 18 Aug 2012 by RussiaToday


Julian Assange's case has raised numerous concerns among journalists and activists who fear being prosecuted for doing their job.
RT interviews author and journalist Naomi Wolf, who says the US government is especially tough on those exposing official wrongdoing.
TRANSCRIPT: http://on.rt.com/qhmh1v

Cidersomerset
19th August 2012, 14:18
Julian Assange Speech from Ecuador Embassy - August 19 August 2012

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Published on 19 Aug 2012 by fruitloopbabe91


Inspiring. Sorry for bad quality, decided to tape it on my phone last minute.


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The whole thing is very suspicious, the Ecuadorian president is known to be a suppressor of free press, and now he's giving political asylum to the guy who's the world biggest advocate of free press. What a paradox.



I agree Camilo there is persacution all over the world and we must not forget that
but this is a case concerning the so called home of freedom of speech and Justice !!

K626
19th August 2012, 15:01
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19292653

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The UFO file will be released if the Americans kidnap him.

If so, do you prefer him in Ecuador or in the US?

Tricky one...








Only joking...Ecuador.

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GaelVictor
19th August 2012, 16:36
Here is the speech direct from the source;

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Cidersomerset
19th August 2012, 18:06
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Craig Murray former British ambassador & whistleblower said it is very common
for whistleblowers to be smeared and falsely charged with none related crimes to
discredit them....

It just shows how journalists muted by the system because they are scared of
prosecution if they divulge stories without overwhelming proof even if they
know they are true.....And those who are trying are discouraged...

Which is what Naomi Woolfe was inffering intape in post post # 74

Ixopoborn
19th August 2012, 20:38
The youtube below is a copy of a very interesting Australian Broadcasting Company, ABC, current affairs documentary which delves deeply into the substance - or rather lack of it - to the allegation a sex crime committed by Julian.

Quite frankly, the Swedish police evidence against Julian seems quite farcical.

To my knowledge, the information in this video has not yet been widely exposed in the UK. William Hague has shown little wisdom or common sense in this matter. He would be wise to avoid later embarrassment by letting Assange go now.

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Cidersomerset
19th August 2012, 22:06
Thanks Ixopobon its purely politcal.......If the woman thought they were raped, you would surely go to the police and say I've been raped !!

If the film is right and theres no reason to believe its not as its a proffesional reconstrution by ABC the whole thing stinks, its amazing .......

No wonder Julian is very worried about going to Sweden,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Its a one way ticket to the USA.....

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This is why they want him at the start of this report Julian highlights the Mil ind complex
the elites...Who will loose power and wealth if wars are stopped !!

JohnPilger a genuine investigative journalist gives his views !!

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Nickolai
19th August 2012, 22:34
Thank you very much, Ixopoborn,

I did not know the whole story. Thanks to you, now I know!

Nickolai

Tangri
20th August 2012, 05:38
I like the idea of citizenship, then diplomatic appointment...... ohh the irony if he gets the Ecuadorian UN gig......

Failing that i have a plan "B"

i need a few tall people (about 1000 should do), roughly the same build as Assange (you know who you are), turn up at the Ecuadorian Embassy say....... next Tuesday...... go in to the embassy...... a few mins later....(think you see where this is going).... 1001 leave.....the "1" jumps on the back of a motor bike, down to the coast and boat to international waters to a waiting Ecuadorian navy vessel.....

Sign up below if over 6ft 3 and your free tuesday afternoon next week...... also need a biker and a boat......cheers in advance....

or as said, already gone........ but not in a diplomatic bag.... where do you buy 6 1/2ft diplomatic bags? Does it get chained some poor courier whose only in it for the cheep flight, can imagine this guy dragging assange in a 6 ft diplomatic bag through the airport chained to his wrist, whilst the police look on...... nothing to see move along........ you couldn't make this up..... oh i just did....

p.s. Has anybody got contacts in the Ecuadorian navy?

I think giving him a diplomatic immunity will force to British to declare Persona non grata

Marsila
20th August 2012, 19:30
I like the
p.s. Has anybody got contacts in the Ecuadorian navy?

I think giving him a diplomatic immunity will force to British to declare Persona non grata

I don't think it is that easy, diplomatic appointment has to be approved by the 'host' country before it happens, so naturally the UK will just reject it if Ecuador applies for him to be a diplomat now.

On the other hand he did say more than once that he never released the most damaging documents....this will be interesting as he was probably saving it to 'negotiate' his 'release' as little difference between his situation and those people who get kidnapped with threats on their life.

Spiral
20th August 2012, 20:24
I think we might all want to seriously review our opinions on the whole thing, here's why;


Many well informed people in the "conspiracy" community are of the opinion that Assange is a Mossad asset and as such is the face of the controlled opposition, which gives the uniformed watching the MSM the illusion that both sides are being given a voice.

I haven't been able to corroborate this info, but the rest of the things this chap says are bang on.

It seems that a real whistle blower is hiding out in the Ecuadorian Embassy, and Assange is just a plant to justify a raid !

From the site of Peter Eyre;

"Do you really believe that Britain would breach sovereignty in order to extradite Julian Assange to Sweden and why would this country carry out such a raid when it had allowed him sanctuary for such a long period of time?

Do you really know the true reason behind such a threat?………..why is the British media not talking about the other person who remains inside this embassy that could be considered a major threat to the political infrastructure of this country and a person who could potentially put away a few ex and current Prime Ministers or very senior Members of Parliament or the House of Lords!!

Who are they really after?………could it be a “Star Witness” to the Chilcot Inquiry who was never called upon to give her vital evidence that could incriminate Tony Blair, Gordon Brown and David Cameron to name but a few?

So who is this mysterious women that you do not know about and what exactly does she know that sends shudders down the spine of the British Government including local MP’s Margaret Beckett and Chris Williamson?

Her name is Andrea Davison (we are led to believe) and she had direct access to Number 10 Downing Street and is known to Tony Blair, Gordon Brown and David Cameron plus a whole host of other political elite!!

She knows as much as the late Dr. David Kelly and in actual fact puts herself on par with him…..she also did many runs to Iraq and herself worked for the DTI Select Committee as an “Arms to Iraq” investigator and may have also worked for MI5/6…….and yes she would be considered as a “thorn in the side” to current and past leaders and their respective governments!!

Let me again remind you that it was this women who took Gordon Bowden and myself to court for deformation re the articles I wrote in my “Pandora’s Box Series” in which, according to the information I received, was also guilty of major international fraud!!

It was the arresting authority (Derbyshire Police) who has since put her through the court system and charged her with 27 offences relating to the very topics that Gordon and I had written about……….she was found guilty of those charges and sentenced to 2.5 years in prison…….she did not attend the court which resulted in a Bench Warrant being issued against her and caused her to seek refuge/asylum in the Ecuador Embassy.

As I have said before – Why isn’t the world media camped outside this place? – Because our government and others don’t want you to know what lies within!!

Have you ever asked yourself why the founder of WikiLeaks always reaches the front pages of our daily and international newspapers and yet this unknown entity (Andrea Davison) has little or no coverage!!

We are all led to believe that the information that has been made available via WikiLeaks is explosive in its content and in some cases is an embarrassment to certain leaders and countries. However I do not totally agree with the intentions of Julian Assange as most of the highly sensitive information is totally out of date and no longer serves any purpose in today’s fast moving world……..I would even go a step further by saying all of this WikiLeaks garbage was a well orchestrated plan by the CIA and other intelligence agencies to make it appear to be a scoop and that Julian Assange forms part of that network.

It is clear to me however that Andrea Davison has certainly more to offer the British and international media than Julian Assange could ever dream of and it ceases to amaze me why our Zionist controlled media is not camped outside of the Ecuador Embassy in London with their satellite dishes and reporters waiting to pounce on anyone coming from within.

Again I would like to refresh your memory as to who is Ms Andrea Davison in her own words dated 1st July 2010:

Dr David Kelly and Andrea Davison have several things in common both were experts on Biological Weapons and both were involved in the arms that went to Iraq and WMD’s and both were whistleblowers.

Andrea was an intelligence adviser to the Trade and Industry Select Committee on Arms to Iraq and also gave evidence to Scott Inquiry into Arms to Iraq, It was her whistle blowing to the then opposition leader Niel Kinnock that revealed that the then Conservative Government were selling arms to Iraq. In December 2009 she was getting a file together to send to the Chilcot enquiry.

David Kelly was allegedly ‘suicided’ in 2003 after meeting Andrew Gilligan, a BBC journalist who had spent some time writing about the war in Baghdad.. The Hutton enquiry was established to cover-up this dark deed and save Tony Blair embarrassment.

US Air Force officer Mai Pedersen’s, Dr Kelly’s friends and colleague recently wrote to the attorney general Dominic Grieve saying that Mr Kelly could not have committed suicide. Two weeks earlier Andrea Davison had written to Dominic Grieve asking him to look into the seizure of all her documents into Arms to Iraq.

A spokesman for the Attorney General stated “The Attorney remains concerned about this issue and is keen to explore how the matter might be taken forward with ministerial colleagues.” No comment has been made about Andrea’s documents.

In January this year 13 male officers raided Andrea’s home with a warrant issued under the Proceeds of Crime Act. They took from the building everything of value, confiscating her passport, drivers licence. all the keys to her property and vehicles and 7000 documents about Arms to Iraq amongst a treasure trove of other documents and valuables including her watch. 6 Months later none of these have been returned.

Following the raid, orgainsed by Derby Police in an effort to discredit her, Andrea’s home and car has been broken into. Her car tyres have been let down several times and doors that were locked have been opened and widows likewise. She has had three brake-ins that were reported to the police but no-one has been found.

Andrea is afraid she may be ‘suicided’ and cannot protect herself because in April the Court made her virtually penniless by issuing a Restraining Order. This Court Order prevents her from spending any of her own money and also invidiously prevents her paying for legal advice or assistance to challenge the Courts Order.. Without a passport and made penniless by the Order of the Court she feels they are driving her towards suicide but states they will not succeed."


Read More; http://eyreinternational.wordpress.com/tag/ms-tara-andrea-biggs-davison/

Scroll down the page for a lot more on the same subject, this is a biggy !!!

Nickolai
20th August 2012, 20:34
This link to video is already taken down: Sex, Lies and Julian Assange
But if you type in the name of the video, youtube gives you other links.
Just in case who was late to watch.

nickolai

Cidersomerset
20th August 2012, 21:40
Well Spiral anything is possible in the world of 'Spooks' and the 'Elites' it does make sence in the way Assange was so ridiculously set up in Sweden...
But we will have to see....I don't understand Equadors role in this ?? The scandel seems True..
Must be getting cramped in that flat ....

Wednesday, August 1st, 2012 | Posted by Veterans Today

UK Intel: Andrea Davidson, Dr. David Kelly, Julian Assange and Other Key Stories

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PETER EYRE

Bringing You The News No One Else Wants To Bring YouThe Hidden Truth Behind The News



By Peter Eyre

(Editor’s note: Peter Eyre’s blog notes are a treasure of information Americans seldom see)



What do Julian Assange and Andrea Davison have in common?

Why isn’t the world media camped outside this place?

Because our government and others don’t want you to know what lies within!!

What do they have in common…..they both become political asylum seekers in the Ecuador Embassy inLondon!!

Have you ever asked yourself why the founder of WikiLeaks always reaches the front pages of our daily and international newspapers and yet this unknown entity (Andrea Davison) has little or no coverage!!

We are all led to believe that the information that has been made available via WikiLeaks is explosive in its content and in some cases is an embarrassment to certain leaders and countries. However I do not totally agree with the intentions of Julian Assange as most of the highly sensitive information is totally out of date and no longer serves any purpose in today’s fast moving world……..I would even go a step further by saying all of this WikiLeaks garbage was a well orchestrated plan by the CIA and other intelligence agencies to make it appear to be a scoop and that Julian Assange forms part of that network.

It is clear to me however that Andrea Davison has certainly more to offer the British and international media than Julian Assange could ever dream of and it ceases to amaze me why our Zionist controlled media is not camped outside of the Ecuador Embassy in London with their satellite dishes and reporters waiting to pounce on anyone coming from within.

Andrea Davison is an ex Arms to Iraq investigator who had direct access to No10 Downing Street and more importantly should have been a “Star Witness” at the Chilcot Inquiry (Iraq Inquiry) but was never called, despite the fact that she did give evidence at the previous Scott Inquiry (held in camera).

Maybe it is time to expose this elusive lady whose knowledge could easily bring down not only the current Prime Minister and his government but also many of the past PM’s and other senior MP’s and members of the House of Lord’s……..so who is she?

I think it is better for the lady herself to describe who she is rather than for me to enter into a pile of dribble and so here are her very own words and her story with the title being: Arms Spooks and Danger dated 1st July 2010:

Dr David Kelly and Andrea Davison have several things in common both were experts on Biological Weapons and both were involved in the arms that went toIraqand WMD’s and both were whistleblowers.

Andrea was an intelligence adviser to the Trade and Industry Select Committee on Arms to Iraq and also gave evidence to Scott Inquiry into Arms to Iraq, It was her whistle blowing to the then opposition leader Niel Kinnock that revealed that the then Conservative Government were selling arms to Iraq. In December 2009 she was getting a file together to send to the Chilcot enquiry

David Kelly was allegedly ‘suicided’ in 2003 after meeting Andrew Gilligan, a BBC journalist who had spent some time writing about the war inBaghdad.. The Hutton enquiry was established to cover-up this dark deed and save Tony Blair embarrassment. For more details read http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-488667/Why-I-know-weapons-expert-Dr-David-Kelly-murdered-MP-spent-year-investigating-death.html

US Air Force officer Mai Pedersen’s, Dr Kelly’s friends and colleague recently wrote to the attorney general Dominic Grieve saying that Mr Kelly could not have committed suicide. Two weeks earlier Andrea Davison had written to Dominic Grieve asking him to look into the seizure of all her documents into Arms toIraq.

A spokesman for the Attorney General stated “The Attorney remains concerned about this issue and is keen to explore how the matter might be taken forward with ministerial colleagues.” No comment has been made about Andrea’s documents.

In January this year 13 male officers raided Andrea’s home with a warrant issued under the Proceeds of Crime Act. They took from the building everything of value, confiscating her passport, drivers licence. all the keys to her property and vehicles and 7000 documents about Arms toIraqamongst a treasure trove of other documents and valuables including her watch. 6 Months later none of these have been returned.

Following the raid, orgainsed by Derby Police in an effort to discredit her, Andrea’s home and car has been broken into. Her car tyres have been let down several times and doors that were locked have been opened and widows likewise. She has had three brake-ins that were reported to the police but no-one has been found.

Andrea is afraid she may be ‘suicided’ and cannot protect herself because in April the Court made her virtually penniless by issuing a Restraining Order. This Court Order prevents her from spending any of her own money and also invidiously prevents her paying for legal advice or assistance to challenge the Courts Order.. Without a passport and made penniless by the Order of the Court she feels they are driving her towards suicide but states they will not succeed.

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It also so happened that on the same day Andrea Davison again did her own second press release in relation to the death of Dr. David Kelly which was titled:

EVIDENCE SHOWS DR DAVID KELLY MAY HAVE BEEN MURDERED BY BROWNS GOVERNMENT

US Air Force Officer Mai Pederson who was part of Dr Kelly’s inspection team inIraqand his close friend until his death states Dr Kelly could not have killed himself.

Mai was previously prevented from giving evidence to the Hutton Inquiry the farcical cover-up arranged by Tony Blair to get himself of the hook. Mai emphatically states Dr Kelly 59 could not have cut his own wrists due to an elbow injury.

Writing to the New Attorney General Dominic Grieve Mai said that also Dr Kelly had difficulty swallowing pills, casting serious doubt on the Hutton Inquiry conclusion that he swallowed 29 painkillers before slitting his left wrist.

Mr Grieve who is known to be a fair and good man has already said he believes the case could merit a further inquiry.

Mr Grieve has also been asked to look into the case of Andrea Davison a former Arms Investigator and Intelligence adviser to the Trade and Industry Select Committee on arms toIraqwho’s house was raided in January 2010 by the Derby Police on spurious grounds. This raid resulted in the seizure of 7000 documents on arms toIraqsome of which were destined for the Chilcot Inquiry.

Dr Kelly was found dead in woods near his home in 2003 after the Government exposed him as the source of a BBC report questioning Tony Blair’s government’s case for war inIraq.

The evidence concerning the post-mortem of Dr Kelly has been classified for an amazing 70 years making the cover-up blatantly obvious.

Insiders know there is a dark underbelly to the Intelligence game and David Kelly like Andrea Davison may have been caught up in a web of deception with powerful people out to destroy their ability to harm them. David Kelly may have lost his life killed by the same team who also murdered Johnathan Moyle and Johnathan Aiken’s PPS Milligan. Their trade mark is the bizarre. Or again he may have been driven to suicide.

Mai’s call for an independent inquiry is not before time let us hope that Dominic Grieve will heed her call and make a stand against any question of cover-ups by the former Government and the ongoing action against Andrea Davison.

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One has to understand that Andrea Davison was fighting for her own existence with not only having such a complex background in areas of highly sensitive intelligence but her own fraud, the case of which I reported in my last article.

I guess one could say that both Andrea and the British Government were both in a possible position to “Blackmail” each other with Andrea being in possession of highly sensitive documents that would have devastating implications for key political figures and the government attempting to bring her to trial for massive fraud etc.

Ms Davison did further attempt to bring things into the public domain when she wrote the following article titled:

IRAQINQUIRY CALLS FOR SENSITIVE EVIDENCE SEIZED BYDERBYPOLICE – 18th July 2010.

Iraq Inquiry headed by Sir John Chilcot is calling on Andrea Davison to supply sensitive evidence which was seized by the Derby Police mid January 2010. Andrea a former adviser to the Trade and Industry Select Committee on Arms toIraqis struggling to know what to do. As she did when giving evidence to the Scott Inquiry into Arms of Iraq she expected to do so in total secrecy but the actions ofDerbypolice have made this impossible.

The Iraq enquiry set up by Gordon Brown is convened for the purpose of examining the United Kingdom’s involvement in Iraq, including the way decisions were made and actions taken, to establish as accurately and reliably as possible what happened, and to identify lessons that can be learned. The Inquiry is considering the period from 2001 up to the end of July 2009.

Gordon Brown (then Prime Minister) told the House of Commons, “No British document and no British witness will be beyond the scope of the Inquiry.” The Government has assured the Inquiry of the full co-operation of the relevant Departments.

But conversely Brown either colluded, organised or aided and abettedDerbypolice seizing documents, mid January 2010, which were pertinent to the inquiry implicating himself in a cover-up. Five weeks later he would himself be called to the Inquiry to give evidence.

TheseIraqdocuments were seized by DC Steven Winnard on the 13th of January just weeks before they were due to be presented to the Iraq Inquiry. Although by now everyone in the New Coalition Government knows about the seizure of the Iraq Documents from Andrea they have not been returned.

Hywell Williams MP of Plaid Cymru whose party originated and led the call to impeach Tony Blair, in 2004 because of Blair’s decision to engage in an illegal war with Iraq, is making enquiries but so far without success.

This begs the question will Iraq Inquiry be just another cover-up !

UPDATE: The Iraq Inquiry closed and all attempts to get the ‘arms toIraq’ documents to the Inquiry failed. James Brokenshire MP Home Office Minister wrote to Hywell Williams MP but the documents still have not been returned.

End of Andrea’s article.

I am sure by now you are sitting on the edge of your seats wondering what this is all about. Well my friends Gordon Bowden and I have been writing about this and many other topics for some time and yet the main line media has failed to cover what we consider to be the “Biggest Scoop Of All Time.”

Gordon and I are currently involved in our own court case at the Royal Courts of Justice in London because Ms Davison took exception to our many stories that accused her of fraud and so she took us to court on grounds of deformation etc but that’s another story.

We have covered almost every topic available in our many articles from illegally purchased nuclear bombs (that were later stolen) to massive corporate fraud involving the senior executives of companies, banks and very senior MP’s and House of Lords including our dear current Prime Minister, David Cameron!!

I will continue to feed you more information on the elusive Ms Davison and the information that she herself printed and in doing so open up a hornet’s nest of government lies that I will call WMD’s (weapons of mass deceit).

Stay tuned for more nail biting stories that you will not read about in any of the censored British media or in fact any other media in the world……..why you may ask?……because it is the truth and that is what our respective governments do not want you to know!!

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Why isn’t the world media camped outside this place?

Because our government and others don’t want you to know what lies within!!

They have both become political asylum seekers in the Ecuador Embassy inLondon!!

Have you ever asked yourself why the founder of WikiLeaks always reaches the front pages of our daily and international newspapers and yet this unknown entity (Andrea Davison) has little or no coverage!!

You may be surprised to learn that in the real sense what Ms Davison knows far outweighs the out of date garbage that comes from Julian Assange!!

Ms Davison had an incredible amount of very secretive documents in her possession that had the potential to put many ex and current Prime Ministers in prison for life and in some case many other very senior MP’s and members of the House of Lords so I again keep asking the same question why is the world’s media ignoring Ms Davison?

I would now like to continue in exposing exactly what this woman knew as proof that our government and the opposition certainly are making sure that the media does not get hold of this story.

Here is more information that Ms Davison herself produced and published in her own words with the title:

MI5 DESTROY THE BLAIR BROWN IRAQ DEFENCE ARE THEY NOW WAR CRIMINALS – Jul 20, 2010:

Former head of MI5 in her evidence to the Chilcot Inquiry showed Tony Blair’s evidence that “Toppling Saddan Hussein helped makeBritainsafe from terrorists” was false.

In her testimony she said, what every intelligence service in the world knew, thatIraqwas no threat and did not have the capability to use WMD’s. Whilst she did not say that Saddam had mobile biological weapons units in the southern marshes it was revealed in a memo to John Gieve, Permanent Secretary to the Home Office, in March 2002, that Saddam was not likely to use chemical or biological weapons unless “he felt the survival of his regime was in doubt”.

Britainand theUSAsuppliedIraqwith a military industrial base which included the facility to produce chemical and biological weapons and deliver them.Britainsupplied large amounts of VX gas and the tech transfer which resulted in a bio engineered flu virus transposed with a biotoxin. Following Desert Storm much was transported toSudan,IranandLibya.

The intelligence reports from around the world did not suit Tony Blair’s agenda and he made war on Iraq causing the radicalisation of British Muslims and thereby increasing the threat of home grown terrorism Just as the intelligence reports he chose to ignore warned. Some of those reports were written by former arms investigator and intelligence agent Andrea Davison.

Manningham-Buller also said Iraq had posed little threat before the 2003 U.S.-led invasion, and insisted there was no evidence of a link between former Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein and the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks on theUnited States. “There was no credible intelligence to suggest that connection and that was the judgment, I might say, of the CIA,” she told the inquiry. “It was not a judgment that found favour with some parts of the American machine.”

Former head of M15 Eliza Manningham-Buller revealed that there was such a surge of warnings of home-grown terrorist threats after the invasion ofIraqthat MI5 asked for – and got – a 100 per cent increase in its budget. Baroness Manningham-Buller, who was director general of MI5 in 2002-07, told the Chilcot panel that MI5 started receiving a “substantially” higher volume of reports that young British Muslims being drawn to al-Qa’ida.

As reported she told the inquiry: “Our involvement inIraqradicalised, for want of a better word, a whole generation of young people – a few among a generation – who saw our involvement inIraqandAfghanistanas being an attack on Islam.” She added: “Arguably we gave Osama bin Laden his Iraqi Jihad so that he was able to move intoIraqin a way that he was not before.”

Her words are in stark contrast to the claim that Mr Blair made in front of the same inquiry on the 29 January this year “If I am asked whether I believe we are safer, more secure, that Iraq is better, that our own security is better, with Saddam and his two sons out of office and out of power, I believe indeed we are. “It was better to deal with this threat, to remove him from office, and I do genuinely believe that the world is safer as a result.”

Sir Menzies Campbell, former leader of the Liberal Democrats, added: “I should be astonished if Mr Blair were to return to give further evidence, but questions will remain as to what it was which prompted him to disregard the reservations of officials and their advice. If onlyBritainhad been as well served by its politicians as it was by Eliza Manningham-Bullerthen we would never have got ourselves into the illegal mess ofIraq.”

Only 16days before Blair gave evidence to the Inquiry documents were seized by Derby Police from Andrea Davison proving that the Government knew there were no WMD’s in Iraq at the time of the second Iraq War, along with Intelligence reports which would have ended Tony Blair’s and Gordon Brown’s carefully laid tissue of lies

Ken Livingstone, who was Mayor of London at the time of the 7 July bombings, said: “Eliza Manningham-Buller’s evidence is a damning indictment of a foreign policy that not only significantly enhanced the risk of terrorist attacks inLondonbut gave al-Qa’ida the opening to operate inIraqtoo.”

Evidence showed that a year before British troops went intoIraq, Elize sent the Home Office a memo which – though phrased in official language – demolished the idea that Saddam Hussein’s regime represented a credible terrorist threat to theUK. The memo went on: “We assess that Iraqi capability to mount attacks in theUKis currently limited.”

Lady Manningham-Buller also hinted at disagreement between Blair’s office and MI5 over the dossier that the Prime Minister presented to Parliament in September 2002, to prepare public opinion for the likelihood of war.

“We were asked to put in some low-grade, small intelligence to it and we refused because we didn’t think it was reliable,” she said.

Andrea Davison has repeatedly asked the Home Office for the Return of her documents and Intelligence reports from the Derby Police in order to present them to theIraqenquiry without success. Why the new Government want to keep them hidden is a mystery yet to be revealed.
They both ended up seeking political asylum in this building – The Ecuador Embassy in London

As I told you all in my last article Ms Andrea Davison has far more to offer than the CIA conman Julian Assange so why isn’t the world media interested in this scoop and more to the point just what does this women know that the British Government does not want you to know?

To prove that the information I printed is authentic I will now show you some very sensitive letters letter that Ms Davison herself released into the public domain before she was gagged and forced to take down her webpage…….you will see extremely confidential letters that proves beyond a shadow of doubt that all that she did was known to Tony Blair, Gordon Brown and the current PM David Cameron who between them not only carried out breaches under the Nuclear Explosions Act but she herself and her journalistic puppet, Pete Sawyer, could both have breached the Official Secrets Act!!

This story is truly a major scoop but the current Zionist controlled world media refuses to print it and those in high places continue to evade prison!!

Here are a sequence of letters that show communications between Ms. Davison and the Prime Minister and other very senior MP’s and member of the House of Lords which clearly reveal that the current Chilcot Inquiry will be a total cover-up and the star witness – Ms Davison was never called to give her evidence…….not to mention the fact that three nuclear weapons went missing and were allowed to be sold on the black market………many of the above received back handers from that fraudulent deal including our current PM who received £17.8 million for his party and another £1 million went to Tony Blair….not forgetting many other of the political elite who also got a slice of the cake!!
I will also mention other names such as Sir Ken Warren and Peter Lilley MP who employed Ms Davison and Dr. David Kelly who suffered the ultimate sacrifice in being assassinated simply because he knew too much!!!

Here are the letters in sequence of date order…….note the items seized during the police raid as highlighted in the letter to Gordon Brown the PM at the time and also note the reference made to the DTI which obviously implicates Sir Ken Warren and Peter Lilley to name but a few of those involved:

One can clearly see political interference into the case being mounted by the Derbyshire Police which they ignored and continued to put Ms Davison on trial to which she was found guilty of 27 charges…….however she did not attend the Mold Crown Court and so the police issued a bench warrant for her arrest…….she eventually turned up in the Ecuador Embassy in London and is currently seeking political asylum with Julian Assange as her roommate!!

The question remains will the Police or government ask the embassy to release her so that she can continue to give her vital evidence at the yet to be revealed Chilcot Inquiry……….obviously not as that would be the downfall of not only ex Prime Ministers but also the current PM and possible many members of the Government.

One should also mention in closing the fact that Ms Davison and her journalistic friend, Pete Sawyer could possibly also be charged under the official secrets act for holding and sharing official secrets and then in their publication on Ms Davison’s own blog and also in articles published by Mr. Sawyer himself that could be considered as highly sensitive!!

Mr. Sawyer had the audacity to tell Gordon and I that the reason he was attending the Royal Courts of Justice was to make sure we never printed such articles as this one……..Sorry Mr Sayer you failed on that point…….also this so called journalist had the audacity to wait outside the court and take photographs of Gordon and I…………this gave me no option but to also film him which upset him deeply and he responded by almost poking his telephoto lens up my nostril…….all to no avail!!!

Stayed tuned for more juicy government cover-ups and if you want to learn more you can go to the US Republic Broadcasting Network and listen to Paul Drockton and I in our own show……you can find this also on the link on this page……happy listening!!

Peter Eyre – Middle East Consultant – 30/7/2012

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/08/01/uk-intel-andrea-davidson-dr-david-kelly-julian-assange-and-other-key-stories/



http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?44122-Suicide-riddle-of-weapons-expert-who-worked-with-David-Kelly-Read-more-http..

Cidersomerset
20th August 2012, 21:57
Eyre International – Bringing You The News No One Else Wants To Bring You


The Hidden Truth Behind The News



Pandora’s Box opens up more Grime – Part 4 (Repeat & Revised)

http://eyreinternational.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/pbl4.jpg?w=700




It is obvious that the current articles are touching a few raw nerves and events are starting to unfold.

Before you read this very complex massive fraud that Gordon Bowden has uncovered I suggest you watch the following documentary that was produced in Australia by the ABC 4 Corners Series……this one was called “Bad Company” which you can view on the following web:

http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/content/2008/20080602_bad_company/interviews.htm

This is a repeat of one particle article that I did some time ago that has resulted in Tara Andrea Davison taking out deformation against all those concerned with its publication. Many times this article has been taken down but then re instated as it was proven that all the contents were taken from the public domain and did not breach journalistic protocol or reveal private details about Ms Tara Andrea Davison.

All the information is as recorded from many locations that give details of registered and de registered companies and their addresses and does not therefore infer any aspect of deformation.




http://eyreinternational.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/tara-photo.jpg?w=700

Ms Tara Andrea Davison

Ms Tara Andrea Davison’s business premises in North Wales were raided in January 2010 where she was arrested under the Proceeds of Crime Act 2002 and a Restraint Order Phohibiting Disposal Of Assets was issued. She is currently under bail which was extended until May 2011

http://eyreinternational.wordpress.com/2011/06/18/arms-to-iraq-%E2%80%93-just-who-knew-what-would-have-to-be-the-question-part-1/

http://eyreinternational.wordpress.com/2011/06/22/arms-to-iraq-%E2%80%93-just-who-knew-what-would-have-to-be-the-question-part-3/


http://eyreinternational.wordpress.com/2011/05/22/pandoras-box-opens-up-more-grime-part-4-repeat-revised/

http://eyreinternational.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/letter-lord-hoyle-to-mick-creedon1.jpg

http://eyreinternational.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/cameron-and-thatcher.jpg?w=700

Well there certainly seems something going on .....But cannot find ref to her yet being in the embassy other than Peter Eyres investigations ??

Sirius White
21st August 2012, 00:27
Assange must know things that they REALLY....do not want out in the open. And I don't just mean military secrets. But you know, the kind of stuff us weirdos are interested in :)

nottelling
21st August 2012, 00:37
I vaguely remember a very downplayed comment from a year or so ago about some of the diplomatic cable dump which deals with space or UFOs being withheld while they sought advice. I've been looking, but I can't find any reference to it.

In the event that my usually half-decent memory hasn't developed a fault, I am of the opinion that this shocking insurance file they say they have may contain UFO/Alien material. Disclosure via Wikileaks could lead to global chaos, but if that's the way it has to occur then so be it.

eni-al
24th August 2012, 02:42
I know its probably not as simple as this, but the UK should just step back and say he's in the hands of Ecuador now and its between them Sweden and the US now, they can send their police over and do what they want. The time and money spent by the UK chasing this one man around is getting a bit ridiculous, just leading the UK into diplomatic issues, annoyingly, its difficult to to say whether he did commit any crime in Sweden, no one but he and the women know (maybe anyone else involved) for certain. I knew of someone who has supposedly committed rape, though the charges were cleared because the grounds were just not there, its pretty similar to this case.
The women do have a right to the justice and having their side heard, provided its true (I'm inclined it is, and this is simply just being drawn out because he might be sent to the US, though the rape case would not lead to sentencing).

I just wonder what is going to happen when it ends, and when it does. Is it just delaying the inevitable or does he have a plan to escape or something. He can not stay in the embassy for ever, obviously, don't see much happening elsewhere though.
Apparently he has a bit of an ego, kinds of seems it when he does his speeches, I think all this is further rubbing it.

Corncrake
24th August 2012, 03:04
The Peter Eyre articles are fascinating - I knew nothing about the Andrea Davison piece of the jigsaw. It makes you despair - it is bad enough knowing what you do know but when you start to consider what else there may be hidden away .... However, I don't agree that Assange/Wikileaks were just a distraction. Apart from the actual information Wikileaks has published which Eyre dismisses too easily, just being able to access this data (like Gary McKinnon) has embarrassed the US government in particular horribly.

sdv
24th August 2012, 07:19
The following is from the Wikileaks site:


Statement on U.K. intentions and pressures prior to Ecuadorian embassy siege
Thursday 24th August, 01:00 BST
Formal statement by Craig Murray former U.K. Ambassador and career diplomat, August 23, 2012, on the Ecuadorian embassy siege in London.

My name is Craig John Murray. I am a retired British diplomat. I was a member of Her Majesty’s Diplomatic Service for over 20 years, and a member of the Senior Management Structure of the Foreign and Commonwealth Office for over six years.

As anybody who works a long time in any one organisation, I have a great many friends there, some of whom are now very senior officials. And as is natural, they sometimes discuss matters with their old colleague.

I arrived in the UK from a trip abroad on 15 August 2012 and was immediately contacted by a very senior official within the Foreign and Commonwealth Office who was very concerned. He had knowledge that an attempt by the British authorities to force entry to the Embassy of Ecuador was possibly imminent. I suggested that this must be impossible, and he said that unfortunately it was not. He said that he had been party to formal discussions over a three week period between different British government departments on the legality of such a move. It had concluded that the provisions of the Diplomatic Premises Act of 1987 gave the authorities the domestic power to do this, in spite of the Vienna Convention of 1961.

My ex-colleague went on to say that he understood the government intended to act quickly to pre-empt any grant of political asylum to Mr Assange by the government of Ecuador. If there were any formal international recognition of Mr Assange as a political refugee, it might complicate matters.

He also said there was tremendous discomfort at this development within the British diplomatic service because of the potential exposure of British embassies and diplomats abroad to similar action.

I asked how on earth such an illegal decision could have been reached. My ex-colleague said that political pressure exerted by the administration of the United States of America on Mr William Hague and Mr David Cameron had outweighed the views of British diplomats.

I published a brief account of this conversation on my blog the following morning, in an effort to add to the pressures which might avert the government from such an illegal act.

About Craig Murray: http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/about-craig-murray/

Cidersomerset
24th August 2012, 18:22
'Ecuador stands by Assange' - President Correa exclusively to RT

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ublished on 24 Aug 2012 by RussiaToday


Ecuador is standing by its decision to grant asylum to Wikileaks founder Julian Assange, who's resisting Britain's efforts to extradite him to Sweden to face sex crime claims. In an exclusive interview with RT's Spanish channel, Ecuador's president explains the choice he made, and says what he thinks Britain's motives really are.

Cidersomerset
24th August 2012, 18:33
This is a interresting article about Julian Wikilinks and the corporisation of america
the picture of Jesse is a bit misleading as he is not on the tape....

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Cidersomerset
25th August 2012, 11:32
A show of support by South American states for Equador!!

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Published on 24 Aug 2012 by RTAmerica


The Organization of American States convened on Friday to discuss the case of Julian Assange while the UK and Ecuador remain at diplomatic battle.
Ecuador's President Correa has granted the founder of WikiLeaks asylum but the problem for Assange now is how to get safe passage from the
Ecuadorian embassy in London to the airport. UK law endorsement officials are threatening the whistleblower, and Eva Golinger, attorney and author,
joins RT's Liz Wahl to speak about the matter.

Cidersomerset
25th August 2012, 20:37
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Published on 25 Aug 2012 by RussiaToday


Ecuador has scored another point in its diplomatic row with Britain over granting asylum to Julian Assange. 34-member bloc of
American nations has declared 'solidarity and support' for the country - condemning the UK's earlier threats to storm its embassy
in London to get to the whistleblower. Laura Smith's in Britain - a brings us the details.

sdv
25th August 2012, 21:54
Just my opinion: extradition to Sweden will guarantee an unfair trial and imprisonment that will shut him down, so, yes the USA is exerting huge pressure to have him delivered to the Swedish justice sysem, but their goal of shutting him down can be met just as well by having him convicted, jailed and shut down by the compliant Swedish justice system.

If the Swedish justice system was really interested in pursuing a genuine and real complaint, they would have taken advaatage of every means to pursue this - they could have, at any time, questioned him in the UK and then, if they had sufficient evidence for a successful prosectuion, demanded extradition to face trial. Their goal seems to have never been to seek justice for a couple of women feeling aggrieved in their sexual relations with him, but to get Assange back in Sweden to shut him down.

Perhaps, now, the battle lines are being drawn between the brutal power that rule the world and those that will stand up against this, and Assange is playing his karmic role in this war?

ThePythonicCow
25th August 2012, 22:20
Their goal seems to have never been to seek justice for a couple of women feeling aggrieved in their sexual relations with him, but to get Assange back in Sweden to shut him down.
Perhaps the goal is not to shut Assange down, but to make it appear as if he is under the great threat of being shut down by the US, without actually ever bringing that showdown to a head.

Perhaps what we're seeing is what "they" intend for us to see.

sdv
25th August 2012, 23:11
Paul, in this whole show, as a woman, I see that, if these two women were brutally raped, and Assange needed to be made accountable for these brutal rapes that demand such international attention (and, of course, the brutal rapes of babies every day, by full-grown men with full-grown erections and penetration, every day, can be ignored by these same outraged 'feminist activists'), the two women and the Swedish government, if sincere about supporting these women, would have used every avenue available to them to seek justice ... but they have not and have become stuck on the politics of extradition.

How much attention has been given to the disclosures of Wikileaks lately? How many potential whistleblowers have been shut down?

I think that I am the optimist that hopes that Assange has taken on the very public karmic role of sacrificing his life to expose and stop this cancer of secrecy that serves no one else but those who are in the service of that secrecy. In this public battle I think we are all being distracted from the real battle and what is really at stake; and I think the US government is very happy with what is going on as a third option in their favour: 1. Get him to the US and annhilate him in some way. 2. Get him to Sweden and imprison him and thus eliminate him. 3. Distract, distract, distract from the awful truths that Wikileaks revealed and may still reveal (who remembers and cares about those unarmed civilians, including well-known journalists, that were gunned down with glee and impunity in just another Iraqi street, and so on).

wynderer
25th August 2012, 23:17
i'm deciding to go w/my first gut feeling about this -- a dog & pony show

sdv: Assange does not look to me like he has the kind of male energy needed for 'brutal rapes ' -- anyway, i'm personally more concerned w/the brutal rape of planet Earth

Cidersomerset
26th August 2012, 10:47
SDV ,Paul and Wynderer all fair points .....The Australian news documentry on post #79 page 4 shows its all political....The case against Julian for rape is non existant
as the girls obviously had consensual sex.....The point about the sexual disease test is certainly not a jailable offence !! and the prosecutor seems like
he has been ordered to find something on Julian at all costs....

norman
28th August 2012, 10:54
Tabloid drama, yes, but here for the hellof it:



It seems an unremarkable image: a group of friends smiling broadly. But this is the photograph Julian Assange hopes will clear his name.

The face of the woman on the left has been obscured for legal reasons.

For although she is seen beaming, she would later tell police that 48 hours before the picture was taken, the WikiLeaks founder pinned her down in her flat and sexually assaulted her.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2193641/Julian-Assange-rape-claim-Is-photo-clear-him.html#ixzz24pxDJMxh

Cidersomerset
28th August 2012, 13:35
Thanks Norman......They bring this up in the Australian news/Doc........It seems pressure is being applied to silance Julian, a classic intelligence smear tactic !!

I think he also had sex with the girl to his left ? They are supposed to be very liberal
minded about sex in Scandinavia, although if a crime really happened OK investigate !
But something stinks about this !! imo..

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It seems an unremarkable image: a group of friends smiling broadly. But this is the photograph Julian Assange hopes will clear his name.

The face of the woman on the left has been obscured for legal reasons.


For although she is seen beaming, she would later tell police that 48 hours before the picture was taken, the WikiLeaks founder pinned her down in her flat and sexually assaulted her.


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/08/25/article-0-14B189E2000005DC-786_634x412.jpg

Smiles all around: Woman A, left, at a dinner with Julian Assange, centre, host Richard Falkvinge, Anna Troberg and Sara Sangberg

If the case ever reaches court – Mr Assange is currently holed up in the Ecuadorian Embassy in London – his lawyers will argue that the photograph undermines the 33-year-old woman’s entire story. And, they claim, there is more.

In the two days after the alleged assault in Sweden, Mr Assange and Woman A, as she is known, attended a conference and two dinner parties where it is claimed they were practically inseparable.

During one party, Woman A tweeted that she was ‘with the world’s coolest, smartest people!’.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2193641/Julian-Assange-rape-claim-Is-photo-clear-him.html#ixzz24qc9mIFt

astrid
30th August 2012, 00:07
This just now from Wiki's FB feed...

"Assange embassy standoff: UK police have moved into using unmarked rental vans.
Large "Hertz" van parked along embassy full of police."

AND.. this article from the 21st of August.. ( note the date)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2012/aug/21/hugh-muir-diary-julian-assange?fb=native&CMP=FBCNETTXT9038

"Yesterday we told of how a police officer accosted a blameless rail traveller in west London, his enthusiasm fired up by the belief that he was spearheading the capture of the man who leaked the secrets. Today, we can reveal a bit more about the debacle. The guy who was required to prove that he was not Assange was Nick Potter, one of the country's leading consultant osteopaths and the son of a former high court judge. He is blond, whereby Assange has the platinum locks we have come to know. They are not particularly alike. "He said 'I have reason to believe you are a suspect we have been looking for'," Potter told us. "I said, 'what am I supposed to have done'. He said 'I have reason to believe you are Julian Assange'. Everyone went quiet." And here is the really interesting bit. "I said 'I thought he was in the Ecuadorean embassy'.

And he said 'we have strong reason to believe he is at large'."


SO... my hunch. is that he got out just after the press conference in the masses of ppl that were gathered, and all the confusion.

My hunch is that is is well on his way to Ecuador, if not already there.

Cidersomerset
2nd September 2012, 16:58
Julian assange thinks he will be holed up in the embassy for at least 6 months...



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akrotiri
4th September 2012, 17:14
Julian Assange and Tara Andrea Davison.
The reason the major media, have been blocked by David Cameron, senior Conservative Government leadership authorities, The Senior Cabal of the Labour Party and MI5 / MI6 in exposing the Labour Party SPY
Ms Tara Andrea Davison
can be explained here:
Google and watch the YouTube Video

Martin Summers-Scads-missing nukes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mznxMko8RII

Cidersomerset
8th September 2012, 20:30
'US power elite stop at nothing to get Assange'

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Published on 8 Sep 2012 by RussiaToday


RT talks to Nikolas Kozloff, author of 'Revolution! South America and the rise of the new left',
about the future of the world's most famous whistleblower, Julian Assange.

Nickolai
8th September 2012, 23:37
Yes, Thank you Cidersomerset !

A very intersting interview.
Some info in it got me intersted. That's about the Iceland deciding to host and protect the whistleblowers.
That's what I have found on the matter:
Iceland becomes safe haven for whistle-blowers : http://www.tgdaily.com/business-and-law-features/50266-iceland-becomes-safe-haven-for-whistle-blowers

Icelandic Parliament Strengthens Protections for Journalists and Whistleblowers: http://archive.truthout.org/media-reform-passes-icelandic-parliament61180

Iceland to host whistleblowers' site Wikileaks: http://www.computerweekly.com/news/1280093052/Iceland-to-host-whistleblowers-site-Wikileaks

Hopefully, this will lead to more revelations of the brave people.

Nickolai

Cidersomerset
11th September 2012, 14:48
A couple of RT updates on Julians situation.....

Assange - free prisoner in UK?

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Published on 10 Sep 2012 by RTAmerica


The world's most famous whistleblower, Julian Assange, has been granted asylum in Equador and has spent several months in the country's
embassy in London. The Wikileaks founder isn't able to make a safe trip to the airport because the British law enforcement officials threatened
to arrest him as soon as he steps out of the embassy.The Spanish jurist Baltasar Garson explains why he thinks Assange is worth defending in
an exclusive interview with RT's Sara Firth.

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Assange Lawyer: Innocent man persecuted, US war crimes unpunished (EXCLUSIVE)

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Published on 11 Sep 2012 by RussiaToday


Baltasar Garzon is no stranger to conflict when it comes to fighting injustice carried out by state powers. In an exclusive interview with RT,
the Spanish jurist explained why WikiLeaks founder and whistleblower Julian Assange is "worth defending"