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ljwheat
16th August 2012, 19:55
Sheldan Nidle, Numerous Chanelers, Our parents, Schools, Teacher's, Its everywhere, Politicians, Churches, City hall, Doctor’s, Hallmark cards, TV, Evening News are all the Bringers of “HOPE“,.

Many Shepherds that have taken on the roll of leading us threw the valley of the shadow of death,- with Feely good, Worm and Fuzzy Messages of “HOPE” and Prosperity in the Physical.

Hope is the greatest Evil that came out of the box of 7 evil’s.

Search your heart deep on this one guys.

Really look at this thing we all have embraced,-- accepted and use constantly as a good thing. When it’s the hidden cancer that’s never been exposed into the light of day.

Blinding the growth of mankind in a cell of waiting, instead of acting.


“HOPE” = evil, here is the reasoning and were it originated.

Hope -- the moment its spoken it stops everything.

Action stops, further thinking stops.

“Well I Hope” is like hitting a brick wall.

Once said or thought we stop,-- and wait for hope to do the rest for us..

I hope this happens ---- then the long wait doing nothing but hoping -- nothing just waiting, hoping for - Hope,.- it stops the hole posses of action. Shutting down our personal responsibility to act,-- hope it -- Now we can relax its someone elses problem.

When we may have been able to act in the same time it took to choose hope.

So we wait dead in the water hoping some one will come along and pull us safly to shore,--- when right in front of us is a broken paddle at our feet. ? ? -- Hope is Evil.

PLEASE look at this from your heart, spend some time with it.

Use your critical thinking, that the bringers of HOPE are the hidden enemy the anti-action anti-Christ of the mind. Bringing you hope every message that they bring. Is pure refined evil brought to us by the vehicle of HOPE.

Lets just gather around the camp fire and wait awhile, shall we? lets hope the night away.

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Hiding the origin of the word “HOPE” how it came about?

Where did it came from? And what dose it do?

Changing it from a negative evil,-- and giving it a positive label long ago,..

Its all about keeping the herd waiting. And waiting, more dates, more wait and see, and it’s the hope that’s implied each and every time.

Hope dose nothing, and lets us off the hook, because were hopping it will. --- in doing nothing till it happens.

Hope makes it impossible for it to happen that’s why its evil and was last to come out of the box of evil’s. As it was to lazy to get itself out of the box, hope dose nothing for you or itself.

And this has been around a long time, and our complacency has allow it full rain over our societies and Has been passed on from generation to generation, growing up in a jail cell from birth, how could you know you’ve been imprisoned by the use of certain words and how they affect us.

Keeping everything dumbed down by manipulating the very words we speak. Clever indeed, how many other words in our lives are keeping us pinned down in more ways than we can shake a stick at.

And now its almost totally hidden from view like a under cover cop, sneaking in the back door un noticed like a mole, eventually taking over, and going no were and helping no one.

Being birthed on this planet we accepted the word Hope as good, because we hear it from the pulpit in church, politicians, the doctor,.

And use it every time we are at a loss of what to do next,.

So instead of doing something (anything) we lay down with the word “Hope” ? the word that justifies our conscious mind into doing nothing.

Just hoping, and hoping, and hoping, dates, and waiting instead of maybe using a broken paddle to get ourselves to shore. This is some serious ship stopping stuff here. Hope is the hidden enemy of action. Not everyone is useing this word in deception.

Ignorant of the true meaning and what that word dose,-- in stopping the flow of energy each time its invoked , or passed on--- or accepted instead of action.

Its not hidden anymore. :jaw:

John xoxo

wynderer
16th August 2012, 19:58
John Trudell RULES!

observer
16th August 2012, 21:12
While we wait and hope, the Calvary surrounds our small village.... It's almost dawn.

Who speaks for the mothers of the dead infants? .... hope?

Thank your John Trudell....

Rollo
16th August 2012, 22:07
Thank you for this precious words of wisdom.

taliesin
16th August 2012, 22:58
Years ago in a workshop we did an exercise exploring the feeling differences between hope and certainty. So we called up the feeling of hope about something specific happening and then stood in a way that expressed it, and the same for certainty about this thing happening. The difference is stark and I would recommend trying this little exercise to anyone who can't get how disempowering hope is.

Bright Garlick
17th August 2012, 04:57
Hope is a kind of ignorance of the present moment. Hope causes suffering. I am happy to see that someone else gets it. :peace:

GarethBKK
17th August 2012, 05:12
Not familiar with John Trudell, but have the following thought:

Hopeful = Inspired. I have belief that I can make it happen and have the optimistic intention of making it happen. This is positive.
Hopeless = Apathetic. I have abdicated my role in making it happen and the result may well be despair. This is negative.

I suspect there may be many people using 'hope' in the sense of hopeless.

ljwheat
17th August 2012, 12:49
Not familiar with John Trudell, but have the following thought:

Hopeful = Inspired. I have belief that I can make it happen and have the optimistic intention of making it happen. This is positive.
Hopeless = Apathetic. I have abdicated my role in making it happen and the result may well be despair. This is negative.

I suspect there may be many people using 'hope' in the sense of hopeless.

OP, look again, IMHO --Change the definition any way you like,--- that’s the point,-- people HAVE changed the meaning its just putting a different dress on the same clown, it still came out of the box of evil.

You can dress up a elephant to look skinny, but it still will crush you if you use it or let it sit on you as you wait for the end result of that evil action stopper.

You can use evil cuss word in a positive way to, but the on looker may not know of your positive intent.

Some kids like sour candy-- none the less its still sour,-- its candy (Hope) that came out of the box of evil. And we all love the taste of it, as we use it all the time.

You ask me a question // If I’m shaking my head yes, // " I will answer all your questions,"--- while my mouth never moves “No action” its still is not a yes no matter how much my head go's up and down, as I stay silent and give you nothing, nothing. thats - HOPE - nothing.

:rain: Hope it will stop”-- or I’m “positive it will stop” as I’m hopefully positively hopping it will stop. “Your still standing there getting wet.” no matter how its used its non-action in its core foundation and the box it came out of.

When Christians read or are told --"Thou shall not pray before men," but to go in secret and ask of your father in secret those things you think you have need of.

You get the justification: “Well that was meant for some one else, or ” I do it in a positive why.” People turn evil stuff all kinds of evil stuff--- into a positives all the time to justify there beliefs. This is a BIG one. Look at it again it’s a trap.

Justify it all you want it’s the last evil you’ll ever know as it sneaks up your back side and paralyzes your actions. To justify this one -- IMHO then your already trapped. Justification is the blind fold over your minds eye. "Question everything"-- don't just justify it to fit your life or verbal understanding.

Much love to us all. John xoxo

ljwheat
20th August 2012, 23:15
You know; I really wonder why some threads die to soon, or why other threads take off?

Is it the subject matter, to personal to look at or deal with?

Would have to give up or let go of to many beliefs?

Has no drama to hold the attention of the masses?

Or just no time to deal with the OP.?

In my book I thought this bringer’s of hope is so wide spread and used so much in our society, that it would have gotten a greater response or interest.

Jules
26th August 2012, 12:13
Interesting concept. Maybe the point is that hope without action and positive intent, really isn't hope. That would make hope a disabling emotion to pacify one at the time. The word hope in itself is not bad, just the way a person utilizes it with intent and action.

ljwheat
26th August 2012, 13:19
“HOPE” came out of the box of evil ? Run up and paint a turd that doped out of the but of a dog, and paint it any color that’s comfortable for us to accept. It still stinks and attracts fly’s.

Adding sugar to coffee to hide the bitter taste only allows one to swallow with out gagging.

Sugar coating Hope is a deceptive dangerous game to play. And since the game has been sugar coated for thousands of years, has effectively taken the sting out of the evil being hidden in the invisible killer of “ACTION” Procrastination is its heart beat. Given enough time I can talk myself out of anything I Have hope in. Hope is the Pause button giving one time to think about it.--- and talk or think it to death.

Even this thread on how evil Hope is. some look and hope this isnt true, and leave quickly,, not wanting to deal with it --- or poo poo it --- then leave. and this is the evil that go's unchecked or stopped --- the main cause of people who fallow instead of act. all sheeple fallow those who act. never the other way around.

observer
26th August 2012, 13:35
In the words of my personal hero, Crazy Horse, as he rallied the braves to ride-off and administer proper justice to Lieutenant Colonel, George Armstrong Custer:

"Hokaheh" (translation: Hold fast (http://lessonsfromearthschool.blogspot.com/2009/02/hokaheh-hoka-hey-hoka-hay.html)).... "today is a good day to die".

ljwheat
26th August 2012, 14:55
In the words of my personal hero, Crazy Horse, as he rallied the braves to ride-off and administer proper justice to Lieutenant Colonel, George Armstrong Custer:

"Hokaheh" (translation: Hold fast (http://lessonsfromearthschool.blogspot.com/2009/02/hokaheh-hoka-hey-hoka-hay.html)).... "today is a good day to die".

I am totally humbled by this travesty on our indigenes people of the U.S., the holocaust of Europe was nothing in comparison to the Millions of American Indians the US ARMY killed in the name of congress and our so called great fore fathers. Independence to kill and cover it up, in the name of corporate gain and commerce. Set forth by our founding fathers. The American schools and Hollywood have summarily hidden the holocaust of the America’s. Using the Hope of freedom came the greatest holocaust in the United State of Shame.

The founding father’s of library, Justice, for who? And now congress has given us a new army to wipe out the so called colonists -- once again this holocaust will be under the army of the TSA. What go’s around comes around, now its our turn.

If we truly wake up to this, we’ll never look at our founding father’s the same why ever again.


"Everything we were taught in school and government was wrong."

heyokah
26th August 2012, 20:39
In the words of my personal hero, Crazy Horse, as he rallied the braves to ride-off and administer proper justice to Lieutenant Colonel, George Armstrong Custer:

"Hokaheh" (translation: Hold fast (http://lessonsfromearthschool.blogspot.com/2009/02/hokaheh-hoka-hey-hoka-hay.html)).... "today is a good day to die".


Thanks so much for this link to "Hokahey"
It resonates with this heyokah....

From "Lessons from Earth School" :

"The meaning of Hokaheh, says she, is to live life in such as way that one has done all that one should upon one’s last day, so it is indeed a good day to die. After watching those moments with Mom and hearing this history of working with the elders, “there is more” and “welcome to the soul” are indeed within her definition."

wynderer
26th August 2012, 20:44
John Trudell RULES!

John Trudell is a poet, a musician, a thinker, a writer, a man w/heart, & a true warrior, in the 3D realm included

a man who walks his talk

edit to add -- he is also a visionary

nomadguy
27th August 2012, 05:33
I find his perspective is valuable

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Siberia9
27th August 2012, 17:13
Just my opinion, but this is one of his best, if you haven't seen it and like Trudell, then Its worth a watch. Id like to see the whole speech so if anyone finds it put it up.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwsSvtZetlo&list=FLuHusei_rw59t-kUVVbE4gg&index=72&feature=plpp_video