The Latest Pictures From Curiosity Rover -- Mars is NOT Red!

[AlexanderLight]

NASA recently uploaded a collection of color photographs (http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl/multimedia/raw/?s=3) (after they have received criticism for the first black and white pictures released to the public), allegedly sent by the Mars Rover Curiosity, where we can clearly see that the Martian soil is very alike ours, and not red at all -- just as many amateur astronomers pointed out in the past years.

Here is an interesting 2008 video, showing an Earth-like, blue, atmosphere -- evidence of oxygen being present on Mars:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJQpcqzxopA&feature=player_embedded

What do you think of the pictures showing a storm-like fog at the horizon?
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-vhUWTaNd4LY/UC0t23DHpiI/AAAAAAAADLk/MLbuARuQcEk/s1600/Mars+horizon+--+Curiosity+Rover.jpg

Could the "mist" be artificially added with a picture editing program, in order to hide a possible blue sky?

Here are some un-photoshopped pictures of Mars from the previous missions (take a look at the sky before and after the pictures are returned to their original color!):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPoPhQWdWpU&feature=player_embedded

The photoshopped pictures show the same mist over the horizon, but once they have been un-photoshopped the sky turned blue, clear and beautiful -- just like ours!

- Read the Complete Article (http://humansarefree.com/2012/08/the-latest-pictures-from-curiosity.html);
- The Egyptian Pyramids in Correlation to Mars (http://humansarefree.com/2010/12/following-statement-was-considered.html);

Friendship,
Alexander

[watchZEITGEISTnow]

thanks.

:cool:

[bennycog]

some pics from the nasa site.. not much i know but these are raw images so they say..

http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl-raw-images/msss/00003/mcam/0003ML0000039000E1_DXXX.jpg

http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl-raw-images/msss/00003/mcam/0003ML0000080000E1_DXXX-thm.jpg

http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl-raw-images/msss/00003/mcam/0003ML0000069000E1_DXXX-thm.jpg

http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl-raw-images/msss/00003/mcam/0003ML0000039000E1_DXXX-thm.jpg

http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl-raw-images/msss/00003/mcam/0003ML0000030000E1_DXXX-thm.jpg

http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl-raw-images/msss/00003/mcam/0003ML0000027000I1_DXXX-thm.jpg

http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl-raw-images/msss/00003/mcam/0003ML0000014000I1_DXXX-thm.jpg

though there is a pic that looks of interest in SOL1 group..
this first one is of the top of the first section for landing.. the second is just curious..

http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl-raw-images/msss/00000/mrdi/0000MD9999000033I1_DXXX-thm.jpg

http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl-raw-images/msss/00000/mrdi/0000MD9999000027I1_DXXX-thm.jpg

EDIT: this last image is of the close up of the top of the descent craft..

[ThePythonicCow]

NASA recently uploaded a collection of color photographs (http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl/multimedia/raw/?s=3) (after they have received criticism for the first black and white pictures released to the public), allegedly sent by the Mars Rover Curiosity, where we can clearly see that the Martian soil is very alike ours, and not red at all -- just as many amateur astronomers pointed out in the past years.
From Curiosity Sends High-Resolution Color Images from Gale Crater (NASA Press Release) (http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl/news/whatsnew/index.cfm?FuseAction=ShowNews&NewsID=1306):



In one version of the large mosaic, the colors portrayed are unmodified from those returned by the camera. The view is what a cell phone or camcorder would record, since the Mastcam takes color pictures in the exact same manner that consumer cameras acquire color images. The second version shows the colors modified as if the scene were transported to Earth and illuminated by terrestrial sunlight. This processing, called "white balancing," is useful for scientists to be able to recognize and distinguish rocks by their color in more familiar lighting.

So ... are the images you mention the "white balanced" images, or otherwise "improved" ?

(Not that I trust NASA ... but proving that them untrustworthy probably requires some effort.)

[13th Warrior]

some pics from the nasa site.. not much i know but these are raw images so they say..

http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl-raw-images/msss/00003/mcam/0003ML0000039000E1_DXXX.jpg





From NASA's website:


Although Curiosity is about 11 miles (18 kilometers) away from this area and the view is obscured somewhat by dust and haze, the image provides new insights into the style of sediment transport within this system.

Wouldn't this indicate atmosphere?

In order to have wind/dust storms there has to be an atmosphere to provide the convection loops required to create wind...

[bogeyman]

Not red, if those pictures are even from Mars that is.

[bennycog]

i find it just amazing that we are seeing another planet like we are looking into our own desert..
whatever lie they are running and secrets they may keep, i am still in awe..

[mountain_jim]

from

http://photoblog.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/08/16/13321407-rover-reveals-more-of-martian-peak?lite



Newly received images from NASA's Curiosity rover are filling out the high-resolution view of its surroundings at Gale Crater on Mars — and providing an up-close look at the six-wheeled craft's nuclear power source. But there are even more impressive vistas yet to come.

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Some of the new imagery was actually taken by Curiosity's Mastcam color camera more than a week ago, on Aug. 8-9, also known as Sol 3 of Curiosity's mission. It didn't take long for the rover to transmit 130 low-resolution thumbnails, each measuring 144 by 144 pixels. Those were assembled and released as a 360-degree panorama on Aug. 9. But the high-resolution versions, at 1,200 pixels square, have taken a lot longer to send back. Today's additions to the jigsaw puzzle include pictures of the layered rock on the flank of a 3-mile-high (5 kilometer-high) mountain known Aeolis Mons or Mount Sharp.

The image wizards who frequent the forums at www.UnmannedSpaceflight.com pounced on the fresh pictures and incorporated them into their own panoramic views. One long strip was done up by California graphic designer Ed Truthan in two flavors: the red-tinged view that Curiosity saw on Mars, and the white-balanced view that earthlings would see if the scene were transported to our planet.

Another strip, which includes some of the rover hardware, was offered by British researcher James Canvin. Two pieces of the puzzle are still missing from the central area of the image, and a horizontal line in the image was left behind as an artifact of the image-stitching process.

"I'll fix this and add some final touches when the final two images are available," Canvin promises.

If you click on the preview image below, you'll find some impressive high-resolution views on Canvin's Martian Vistas website



http://m.static.newsvine.com/servista/imagesizer?file=boyle6DB2585F-FEBC-6876-516C-6EA2E276ED08.jpg&width=900


Red-tinged view:


Click for large image: http://thepythoniccow.us/MSL-Sol2-360-Full-Horizon-Color.jpg
Original URL: http://www.edtruthan.com/mars/MSL-Sol2-360-Full-Horizon-Color.jpg


White-balanced view:


Click for large image: http://thepythoniccow.us/MSL-Sol2-Mt.Sharp-Foothills-White-Balanced.jpg
Original URL: http://www.edtruthan.com/mars/MSL-Sol2-Mt.Sharp-Foothills-White-Balanced.jpg


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[Mod-edit: the www.edthruthan.com/mars website is getting hammered ... it may take an hour or two for the images at the last two links above to load ... so I de-activated those last two links. -Paul.]

[Mod-edit #2: I made copies of the last two images in this post on my server, for speedier access. But the images are still so large they would load slowly for anyone without a very fast Internet connection, so I left the images as active links to my server, rather than displaying them inline. The original red-tinged view is some 29,420 pixels wide, and the white-balanced view is 14,480 pixels wide (really big!). Both images are only 1283 pixels high, so the images will appear as a single, thin, horizontal line of color if viewed in a small window. -Paul.]

[nurgle]

i find it just amazing that we are seeing another planet like we are looking into our own desert..
whatever lie they are running and secrets they may keep, i am still in awe..

I agree I am in awe also!
I totally am letting myself believe this is mars and I am excited every time I hear of new pictures coming out.
This stuff is so interesting to me, I totally look at these images and just want to tell the rover controllers to "go Left, no no go right, whats that over there! oh oh look at that rock!" almost like I am a back seat video gamer!

[bogeyman]

There looking for something...that's why all the effort is being put in to visit this barren sand heap. Many in the program probably don't know the true reason for these visits to Mars, or not the most important reason that is.

[Carmody]

Gravity on mars is calculated to be 35% of earth's, that 10 lbs or 10 kilos would weight only 3.8lbs or 3.8kg.

This means that particles that would not suspend in earth's atmosphere will suspend in mars' atmosphere? Probably. However... that the atmosphere is around, what is it.... 1.15% of the density of earth's atmosphere, where the lander is situated?

[ghostrider]

if there is a hint of blue sky, it has vast oceans , and weather like ours and air and trees. some forgot the dvd released showing trees, I think it was brian leary giving the presentation, showing tunnels , water, and huge trees. Our ancestors had a huge war there, thus it does look a bit like a war zone we see mostly sand and plenty of rock and a lingering haze.

[Rantaak]

Well I did visit mars once..

They have many bases there, and many humans being trained for various purposes. I was able to breathe. There was vegetation. The sky was dark as it was night-time while I was outside. The sky is clearer there than it is here, even in the city.

[Doctor]

I know that the information in those photos are very low, but I attempted color correcting one of them to see if their photos are, in fact, manipulated.

http://i812.photobucket.com/albums/zz50/Avengermark3/realmars.jpg

I think Mars IS red, but I don't think the sky is, either.

[bennycog]

they must be getting better with their photoshopping because noone has come forward yet with anomalies in these new colour pics..

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what program do you use for colour correcting doc?

[nomadguy]

looks just like a mining expedition, going to the desert to look at layers of rock and soil. * adding that the dark colored silt is very curious...

[AlexanderLight]

Cool UFO, allegedly on Mars:
http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all/2/p/584/2P178208022EFFAE03P2264R7M1.JPG

NASA Source: http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all/2/p/584/2P178208022EFFAE03P2264R7M1.HTML

The main question is why are they always releasing controversial photographs to the public? It's impossible to miss that jet-like UFO in the sky!

And I don't understand why NASA keeps posting these black and white pictures in 2012. It's beyond absurd!

[ArtyCarl]

I think the most interesting thing about these pictures is how very earthlike they are. I am sure that there are plenty of places on our planet that would like pretty much identical.

When artists tried to depict the surface of mars in the late 19th and early 20th centuries they conjured up 'alien' worlds which look wholly uninhabitable.

[Flash]

Cool UFO, allegedly on Mars:
http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all/2/p/584/2P178208022EFFAE03P2264R7M1.JPG

NASA Source: http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all/2/p/584/2P178208022EFFAE03P2264R7M1.HTML

The main question is why are they always releasing controversial photographs to the public? It's impossible to miss that jet-like UFO in the sky!

And I don't understand why NASA keeps posting these black and white pictures in 2012. It's beyond absurd!

they may just be disclosing, plainly

[PRAGMAE]

Hi everybody. That last pix is great but I'm not sure that NASA is disclosing. For me it's like a 1000 head dragon. They got so much things to hide since the beginning...

This last pix, on the official .gov website (!) looks like the action of a "tired guy". Didn't they see something "unusual here" ? And as usual, white and black picture.

[nomadguy]

A couple of interesting raw photos from the Mars Curiosity rover

(grid pattern in rock formations)
http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl-raw-images/proj/msl/redops/ods/surface/sol/00100/opgs/edr/ncam/NLA_406377600EDR_F0050178NCAM00337M_.JPG

(bottom right object)
http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl-raw-images/proj/msl/redops/ods/surface/sol/00111/opgs/edr/ncam/NRA_407354314EDR_F0050432NCAM05704M_.JPG

[nomadguy]

Here is a cropped version of the object I am pointing out,

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[norman]

Is there a color photo of the rover when it was here on Earth in earth white light?

If there is, we can tweak colors until the rover is back to it's proper color.

Mars photos always look so 'black and white' even when they are 'red', if you know what I mean.

There is definitely a red color to mars, even when I look at it across space from here. I don 't trust pictures where the color of the ground has been made non red. The color of the mars sky is a different matter.

I think they first reduce the color saturation down to a semi black and white image before they then tint it to the sandstone color that even makes the sky look the same shade as the land, which is very un natural.

That makes it harder to shift the colors back again and produce a picture that people will find natural and believable. By the time you've shifted the sky back to a shade of blue, the land has become a very un natural color that's also too close to the sky color.

Just my few thoughts

Edit to add another thought:

If the atmosphere is so thin on Mars, shouldn't the sky be very dark, even in daylight?

[shadowstalker]

they must be getting better with their photoshopping because noone has come forward yet with anomalies in these new colour pics..

You don't need Photoshop to take photos/video when your already using specifically filtered lenses (swappable)
That and..... they only tell us so much about the lenses and type of cams and computer programs they use to begin with, (to take the photos and vids)..

[norman]

You don't need Photoshop to take photos/video when your already using specifically filtered lenses (swappable)



Interesting point and very likely.

They may not have been doing that from the very beginning but they would probably have got around to doing it that way sometime since. It would mean having less people "in the know" and less security headaches.

[GrnEggsNHam]

Malacandra is real?

[ozlemer]

Why the secrecy? It's not as if we can jump on a rocket and see for ourselves... don't know why they bother..

[Flash]

Meeradas has posted an interesting picture in the Now thread, showing some anomalies again in a rock formation. I saw something else in it as well.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30405-Here-and-Now...What-s-Happening&p=633483&viewfull=1#post633483

what i saw, over and above the describe anomaly of something like a metal something in the rock, I saw this:


flash: there seem to be a second anomaly in this picture, bottom center, with a very define lines of a rectangular whole of shadow on a rock and a small shiny dot below. Hardly nature work. If you go from there at a 30 degrees angle toward the right, you will see a rock that looks like a pulley, a belt pulley, with a hole in the middle top. May just be nature work though.


from meeradas post:


from Dr. Joseph P. Farrell'sGiza Death Star:

"Now, just when you thought all that talk about strange anomalous artificial-looking “stuff’ on Mars had been emptied(we would argue, unsuccessfully), NASA’s Mars Curiosity rover takes this little picture (and our thanks to Ms. P.H. for sharing this with us):

NASA’s Mars Curiosity’s “Shiny Little Thing”; the anomaly is visible toward the top center of the picture and looks like a couple of Screws bored into the rock; the link to the actual NASA image is :

http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl-raw-ima...000E1_DXXX.jpg"


http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl-raw-images/msss/00173/mcam/0173MR0926020000E1_DXXX.jpg

[meeradas]

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[Flash]

Well I did visit mars once..

They have many bases there, and many humans being trained for various purposes. I was able to breathe. There was vegetation. The sky was dark as it was night-time while I was outside. The sky is clearer there than it is here, even in the city.

Nobody seems to have picked up on this, you have to tell us more about your trip Rantaak. Was it physical in the body visit or astral? Was breathing more difficult? How did you get there? When was that? with whom were you? etc etc

[RunningDeer]

Other nice pictures.., tubes on mars, an artist impression.

From skippy on the "Here and Now" thread.

http://www.mccrecords.com/MarsGlass-4-zakas.jpg

[Eram]

Is there a color photo of the rover when it was here on Earth in earth white light?


http://eandt.theiet.org/news/2012/dec/images/640_curiosity_rover.jpg

Or is this photo photoshopped maybe? Or taken with swapped lenzes :tinfoil3: :whip: