The 'Truth' is on 'Trial' - 'Kangaroo Court Style' - Not Julian Assange..! [Archive]

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jackovesk

22nd August 2012, 01:30

http://www.bartcop.com/kangaroo-gitmo.jpg

Rap your Mind around this...

The 'Truth' is on 'Trial' (Kangaroo Court Style), not Julian Assange..!

Please just 'Think' about that statement for a second...:faint:

This whole 'Media CIRCUS Charade' of Wikileaks and its leader Julian Assange (Friend or Foe?) has always been about the 'Truth'...:yes4:

Assange is either 1 of 2 things in this 'Circus'...

PTW/OWO/CIA Asset &/or Player or
An Innocent Truthseeker..?

I have my view, but I'm more interested in the 'Collective View'...:yes4:

So I open this 'Thread' up for discussion to (ALL) sides of the 'Debate'...

Those (For) Julian Assange
Those (Against) Julian Assange
Those (Not Sure) what to make of Julian Assange

Note: :attention:

Please state your 'Case' & 'Why' you are For/Against/Not Sure of Julian Assange..?

PS - I personally think 'Julian Assange' is (Knowingly/Unknowingly..?) an active participant in the PTW/OWO putting the 'Truth on Trial' for the entire world to see..!

The PTW/OWO want to show the world the 'Truth can still be Controlled' & (They) have (ALL) the POWER, are 'Above the Law' & 'Untouchable' whether (We) like it or not..!

This whole 'Circus' is to show the World who (Still) has the 'Real-Power' & 'Who is the BOSS'..! :yes4:

PSS - I will Guarantee you all of 1 thing...

If you tell the 'Truth As You Know & Feel It' and particpate and express your 'Honest' POV in this discussion/debate, you (Will) learn a thing or 2...:yes4:

GlassSteagallfan

22nd August 2012, 01:55

"Truth is the first casuality of war"

jackovesk

22nd August 2012, 02:13

"Truth is the first casuality of war"

Indeed GlassSteagallfan...:thumb:

This is a 'Spiritual' WAR & its 'Us against Them' &/or 'Us against Ourselves', played out onto the World's Stage for (ALL) to see...:shocked:

The 'Universal Consciousness' has always 'Known the 'Truth'...:yes4:

Well its (Game-On) and I'm feeling empowered by what I see...A Universal :dance3: of 'Enlightenment' coming to 'Thee' - “Hallelujah!”

Spirituality = Truth & Truth = Spiritualty

The 'Truth' has (ALWAYS) been at your fingertips, its part of our DNA...:)

The 'Truth' is 'Untouchable' & 'Above All' and the 'Truth (IS) coming to set us (ALL) FREE'...:)

Dennis Leahy

22nd August 2012, 02:44

I have listened to the accusations against Wikileaks and Assange, from those that try to make them into an NSA/CIA plant/stooge. The strongest "evidence" is that there is little damning evidence published by Wikileaks about Israel (despite what we know publicly about AIPAC - the most powerful lobby in the US - and dozens of independent researchers pointing to the Israeli government, or to Mossad as having their fingers in every pie.)

The other argument comes from 9/11 truth folks, because it is so hard to believe Wikileaks never got any anonymous whistleblower evidence about 9/11, and because Assange infamously said, well, here's what he said, in context:

Belfast Telegraph reporter Matthew Bell asks Wikileaks founder Julian Assange about "conspiracy theories". Assange subsequently explains his position. His obsession with secrecy, both in others and maintaining his own, lends him the air of a conspiracy theorist. Is he one? "I believe in facts about conspiracies," he says, choosing his words slowly. "Any time people with power plan in secret, they are conducting a conspiracy. So there are conspiracies everywhere. There are also crazed conspiracy theories. It's important not to confuse these two. Generally, when there's enough facts about a conspiracy we simply call this news." What about 9/11? "I'm constantly annoyed that people are distracted by false conspiracies such as 9/11, when all around we provide evidence of real conspiracies, for war or mass financial fraud."Julian Assange is a smart person, and anyone who sees World Trade Center Building #7 fall straight down in 6.5 seconds and has the mental capacity to understand that this feat is impossible, without numerous explosive charges removing all support simultaneously - by the laws of physics, explained quite simply by a high-school physics teacher - should immediately grasp that the US government is lying, NIST is lying, all mainscream reporters - by the sin of omission - are lying, and that indicates conspiracy. Someone planted a massive array of explosives in a building that housed the CIA, Secret Service, and Giuliani's command bunker - a building impossible for "outsiders" to breach. No one needs to go further than the 6.5 seconds it took that building to fall to know there was an inside conspiracy.

So, that's the bad and the ugly. On the other hand, there's the good:

Birgitta Jónsdóttir (http://www.resetbutton2012.org/MsgIce.php)

and

The "Collateral Murder (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rXPrfnU3G0)" video.

Click the link for Birgitta, and you'll get a clue as to who she is. If she's not authentic, no one on this planet is. And, though she may have some differences with him, she stands by Assange. That is one hell of a character reference.

As for the Collateral Murder video, yes, I have heard the counter-spin (that it was "leaked deliberately"), but I believe that footage was authentically copied and whistleblown/published through Wikileaks to the great embarrassment of even the highest-level sociopaths in the US government. There is no way (in my mind) to spin that they allowed it to be leaked and published. It shows that cold-blooded murder conducted by the US military was so commonplace that it was (militarily) unnoticed and (is still) unpunished. It described the tenor of the war in Iraq in a way that had never been done before.

So, we have Julian Assange making a bombastic statement about 9/11 conspiracy not being real, and we have Assange and Wikileaks, as backed by Birgitta Jónsdóttir, in the role of shining a spotlight directly into the heart (cavity) of The Beast.

If I could sit down with Julian for a few minutes, watch this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZEvA8BCoBw) with him and discuss - sans any emotion - the simple physics of Building 7's demolition, then I would know for sure. But for now, based on the power of the Collateral Murder video and the power of Birgitta Jónsdóttir vouching for Julian Assange, I am on the side that says Assange is a real, independent publisher of whistleblower info. The real deal.

The "truth on trial"... maybe so. If yes, it doesn't say Assange is a plant, it says they want to jam it down our throats that not only are US citizens not protected by our US Constitution, we are also not protected by the truth. A very, very ballsy act of hubris on their part.

Dennis

jackovesk

22nd August 2012, 04:22

Cmon...

I see you down below viewing the 'Thread'...:yes4:

Forget about what I think, what are your thoughts...???

Due to thehttp://www.coringroup.com/images/uploads/c2/953.jpgTheory, we will eventually come to a 'Mass Conscensus' through Trial & Error whether we like the results or not...:noidea:

jackovesk

22nd August 2012, 07:12

Clear your Mind and think about this...

Julian Assange...

Is said to be a (Shy) person
Was reletavely (Unknown) before Wikileaks
Had no formal (Media Training) but 'Overnight' was as (Good as Any) and could '(Match It) with the Best (Talking-Heads) I've seen in the Business
Has one of the most (Media Savvy Minds) on the planet
Had an almost (Clandesdine) childhood & upbringing
Has a QC who is as 'Leftoid & PC' as they come in (Julian Burnside)
Eventually (Wants) to end up in Australian Political Office
Has been heavily supported by 'GetUp' Australia (1 of the Dodgiest Groups in Aust.)
Has previously denied to acknowledge 911 Truth

Do I need to continue..???

Anchor

22nd August 2012, 07:30

NWO Asset.

I did not think so at first, but when I realized that none of his leaks were causing any "elites" too many problems, and his stance on 9/11 I came down on the side of skepticism. I think he may not KNOW that he is an asset, but I think he is being played.

If he were to be preparing to leak some effective disclosures of the sort of level that would effect real awakening and changes in the somnolent masses, then he would be silenced. Probably a heart attack or a plane crash.

jackovesk

22nd August 2012, 07:38

C'mon Sharleen - Have a Crack...:yes4:

What do you think..?

K626

22nd August 2012, 09:30

I'm with Dennis on this. I think it will take him being put in solitary for a number of years for people to realise that he is legit. One of the wierdest things about the conspiracy community is how eager it is to chuck the baby out with the bathwater. We should be aware that at the highest levels there is some incriment of 'trade offs', that some info IS deliberately leaked and some info is questionable in its entirety.

I think Julian is well aware that Bulding 7 was 'pulled' the data is too damning, but he is also aware that the larger picture is now so complex that without de facto information he is better served stearing clear of it mainly because IT IS such a huge topic and also a spider trap for the unwitting.

The work and grace and favour deals Julian hooked up in Iceland and the partners he has there in the likes of Birgitta tell me that on a personal level he is accepted and that on a face to face level a lot of people I respect take him seriously. I often ask when hearing a new 'story'..."Yeah but have you actually met them/him/her face to face? What is your gut instinct? It's what turned me around on David Icke who I was always interested in and read voraciously a decade ago but held a modicum of doubt about (some of his stuff is very fanciful and some of it is coldly accurate). When I met him (only for a few minutes) it put my mind at ease immediately because his 'field' is totally genuine.

Regarding Julian I believe that this is a test case as they want to overtly criminalise the most activist edge of journalism ie whistleblowing and undercover pieces, mainly because in the internet age they have realised they have so little control over 'breaking data/news/info'. That it leaks throught the info tunnels by passing the agenda setting of the MSM, that it's not easily managed and the impact is immediate and worldwide.

They are trying with the Assanage package to lay out some kind of new ground rules, to stigmatise, to criminalise the sharing of secret information with the public (a grand jury case is being buillt as we speak). It's mainly aimed at putting fear around new information for the carrier and the audience, because there is actually very little legal basis to stop it on the statutes and even as they close that gate, the horse seemingly bolts through another one.

Is it about bringing more control and legistlation againt the internet? On many levels it is. But ironically the internet is ONE OF THEIR MAIN TOOLS AS WELL, so shutting it down or making access difficult or expensive is counter intuitive. So, what they are doing is going after the person (the whisteblower) which is a massive error as it gives the data all the credence it needs.

Peace

K

Kindred

22nd August 2012, 09:34

ALL of this is simply a distraction to keep people from Empowering Themselves... to keep them looking Outward, In Fear, and keep them focused on stuff that Doesn't Matter.

You want to do something that Matters? Engage your friends and family and Community in both Love and Knowledge, to the degree that they can accept and incorporate said perspectives - Enlighten everyone you meet with Love and Kindness.

Meditate and Find Your Power - pay NO attention to the 'men in suits'. Do Not listen to their Lies, and be discerning in everything you hear. Shut Out the Fear-mongering nonsense that does not affect you. Yes, Pay Attention, but Don't get caught up in the Fear that THEY Want you to have.

For starters, Know what 9-11 was all about: Architects and Engineers for 9-11 Truth: http://www.ae911truth.org/
Being in the engineering field, I KNOW this could Not have happened without Action on the part of a conspiracy... steel frame buildings Don't 'fall down', or collapse in their own footprint Without Control.

"Be The Change You Wish To See In The World" Gandhi

In Unity, Peace and Love

K626

22nd August 2012, 09:39

scarletfire

22nd August 2012, 15:59

The thing about 9-11 is that there is already overwhelming evidence about the truth, the day in NYC was shot like a Hollywood film and we all saw the 6.5 second fall of building 7 and the convenient wars carried out in the name of retaliation. I think Assange knows the truth about 9-11 but to publicly state this would only earn him more enemies. What Assange picked to leak was brief, to the point and so uncomfortable that it forced lots of folks to pick their heads up out of the sand and ask questions, exactly what is needed. Apparently the US wants Assange extradited, perhaps to send a warning to all others with the ability and intention to leak sensitive info.

jackovesk

22nd August 2012, 23:59

mountain_jim

23rd August 2012, 03:23

I tend to suspect, but have not done the research to reasonably verify, that the position expressed by Duff at VT has some truth to it

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/08/19/assange-witch-hunt-dupes-activists/

Why would someone who released all of his material sifted and, according to Zbigniew Brzezinski, actually written by AIPAC and the Mossad, then again by the New York Times, be an enemy of the NWO?

Assange may be running the whole thing, after all, he is a 9/11 holocaust denialist, advocates the persecution of the Palestinian people openly, advocates war on Iran openly, is silent on drug running in Afghanistan and, though he has leaked material, follows Pentagon policy as though he were drawing a pay check.

As for the Wikileaks website itself, it has no material of interest. Assange only gives material to his “handlers” who release what the rich and powerful want released, when they want it released and much of that material has been proven to have been created, as Brzezinski calls it in this Veterans Today article from December 10, 2010:

ZBIGNIEW BRZEZINSKI: But I think the most serious issues are not those which are getting the headlines right now. Who cares if Berlusconi is described as a clown. Most Italians agree with that. Who cares if Putin is described as an alpha dog? He probably is flattered by it.

The real issue is, who is feeding Wikipedia on this issue — Wiki — Wiki — WikiLeaks on this issue? They’re getting a lot of information which seems trivial, inconsequential, but some of it seems surprisingly pointed. …The very pointed references to Arab leaders could have as their objective undermining their political credibility at home, because this kind of public identification of their hostility towards Iran could actually play against them at home.

Editor’s note: The use of the term, “pointed” is key. This indicates two classes of information and also begins building a hypothesis to support “intent.” If there is “intent” in the leaks, then they are an intelligence operation, not a leak.

It’s, rather, a question of whether WikiLeaks are being manipulated by interested parties that want to either complicate our relationship with other governments or want to undermine some governments, because some of these items that are being emphasized and have surfaced are very pointed.

And I wonder whether, in fact, there aren’t some operations internationally, intelligence services, that are feeding stuff to WikiLeaks, because it is a unique opportunity to embarrass us, to embarrass our position, but also to undermine our relations with particular governments.

Editor’s note: Brzezinski goes exactly there, indicating his belief that Wikileaks is tied to an intelligence agency. This is a full and direct challenge to the credibility of Wikileaks showing no reservations whatsoever.

For example, leaving aside the personal gossip about Sarkozy or Berlusconi or Putin, the business about the Turks is clearly calculated in terms of its potential impact on disrupting the American-Turkish relationship….the top leaders, Erdogan and Davutoglu and so forth, are using some really, really, very sharp language.
.....

On the other hand, quoting Brzezinski to 'prove' he is a NWO asset also seems a tad questionable, says I. So I vote 'not sure' at this time.

Wind

23rd August 2012, 03:34

I don't know, and don't really care about Assange. But I do care about Bradley Manning who is rotting in a jail cell. He was the whistleblower who should get the credit. And like so many others, he is being punished for revealing the truth.

mountain_jim

23rd August 2012, 12:26

From Kerry's Blog this morning

http://projectcamelotportal.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&layout=blog&id=31&Itemid=218

This article by Peter Eyre

http://eyreinternational.wordpress.com/2012/08/16/uk-may-raid-ecuador-embassy-in-london-but-who-are-they-actually-after/

suggests that it is not only Julian Assange who is being heavily guarded after having sought refuge in the Ecuadorean Embassy but rather, and more importantly, a woman named Andrea Davison.

Eyre writes:

Dr David Kelly and Andrea Davison have several things in common both were experts on Biological Weapons and both were involved in the arms that went to Iraq and WMD’s and both were whistleblowers.

In his article, Eyre makes the case that others are also making that the Assange Wikileaks revealations are less than stellar and in fact, it has been said by several sources that Assange is likely a CIA/Australian secret service/Mossad asset and not the hero and defender of whistleblowers that he has been depicted as.

Apparently, Ms. Davison has evidence of arms sales and weapons of mass destruction that were moved by the Brits from South Africa to Oman and then stolen.... And much more that according to Eyre would implicate Brown, Blair and other British government members in a vast conspiracy.

According to this evidence Ms. Davison:

She knows as much as the late Dr. David Kelly and in actual fact puts herself on par with him…..she also did many runs to Iraq and herself worked for the DTI Select Committee as an “Arms to Iraq” investigator and may have also worked for MI5/6…….and yes she would be considered as a “thorn in the side” to current and past leaders and their respective governments!!

Dr. David Kelly is widely thought to have been suicided to keep hin silent and so if this is true, and Davison has similar evidence, it is vital that she be allowed to testify in open court or at the very least have that evidence reach the major media with whatever further information it can provide on just how far this rabbit hole goes.

Peter Eyre was a recent guest on my radio show... And I will endeavor to have him on once again to discuss this and other background to the axis of power with regard to the City of London who he refers to as the "Crown Templar".

It is fact that all of the above were all involved in the New World Order financial rape of not only this country but many others compliments of the Crown Templar that is housed in the City of London – the “True axis of evil” with its tentacles radiating out from the Rothschild’s and the Committee of 300 across the waters to Europe and the good old US of A.

Many Camelot readers will be familiar with our whistelblower [see Anglo Saxon Mission article here] who talks in detail about being present during City of London meetings where fates of nations were discussed like dominoes on a board. This is an area that needs further revealing and Eyre is clearly on that trail as an investigative journalist with inside information in that regard.

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wynderer

23rd August 2012, 12:37

hmmm... i was thinking yesterday about both Bradley Manning & the facebook 9/11 Marine -- i thought, they are showing us that this is what will happen to you if you speak out -- why the Marine, when the net is filled w/ 9/11 truthers?

meanwhile there are other courageous people, unknown to us, who are dead or stuck in prisons who are not getting the attention Assange is

here in the USA, there are many many prisoners doing ridiculously long terms for having small amounts of pot or other drugs in their possession when nabbed --

Assange's appearing sort of out of nowhere [if i read Jackovesk correctly] -- this also seems to be a NWO mo

seko

23rd August 2012, 15:13

When you know who owns the Time magazine and you see Julian Assange on the cover with the title .. Man of the Year .. it is propaganda.
Denying 911
He hasn't been killed, we know how the alphabet agencies work, if someone is that much trouble, he or she will be gone.

He is like a hero to many. I know the master of puppets wouldn't allow it if it was bad news for them.

jackovesk

24th August 2012, 01:27

View Poll Results: Do you believe Julian Assange is a NWO/PTW 'Asset'..?

Poll Update - Results so far...

Yes............30.77%
No ............ 53.85%
Not Sure ...15.38%

Note: Just to Clarify

If you selected 'Yes'..? This includes (Knowingly or Unknowingly)...

After 13 Votes we can see most here still believe that 'Julian Assange' is a victim of circumstance and is not knowingly working for the PTW...

I am still hoping some more will participate in the 'Poll' as an experiment to find where the real 'Median' is within that 'Bell Curve'...

http://decolonizing.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/normalcurve1.jpg?w=300&h=192

Thanks to all of you who have particpated so far...:thumb:

NEW Poll Update - Results so far...

Yes............35.00%
No ............35.00%
Not Sure ...30.00%

Democracy at Work...:thumb:

Voters: 20. You have already voted on this poll.

We really need upto 100 Voters in the Poll to ascertain the real 'Median' of that 'Bell-Curve'...

Looks as if we are all divided by 1/3rds...

If you have'nt voted in the 'Poll' please do so...

PS - Its 'Not' what I think...:nono: Its what the 'Collective Consensus' does...:yes4:

You can't get any more 'Democratic' than that...:noidea:

+ I believe its 'Less' confrontational due to the many 'Differing Opinions' expressed ...:)

So keep them Votes a comin...:thumb: