Mooji Videos and Transcripts

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"Personal Identity: Fact or Fiction?" - 3:02 minutes

"Ordinarily, for most people, the consciousness itself is not private or personal. But on account of manifestation of the body and making use of the body to enjoy experiencing, it then identifies with the body, and then becomes, "I am this person." The conditioning, the education, and the particular identity, becomes where the consciousness hangs out in that form, "I am the person.""


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGK2R_SbUjc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGK2R_SbUjc

:15 - Ordinarily, for most people, the consciousness itself is not private or personal. But on account of manifestation of the body and making use of the body to enjoy experiencing, it then identifies with the body, and then becomes, "I am this person." The conditioning, the education, and the particular identity, becomes where the consciousness hangs out in that form, "I am the person."

:53 - So this is what I mean by personal identity. Through your own sat-sang, you become aware that the personal identity, for most people is deeply important. Even to the extent here in sat-sang as we begin to look more deeply into what it is that we call our self...it's becoming more and more and increasingly clear that this personality is a kind of construct and it's not solid and it's always changing.

1:30 - So many factors are contributing to the way that it is experienced. So you are coming to see that it is more a fiction than fact. So after that has been recognized then it's beginning to lose it's potency. Meaning that the consciousness is not so comfortable of just being the person. It's more aware of a broader space behind the mind.

2:06 - Nevertheless, the people says, "Yes, I know I'm not the person any more." But still, in interactions with other beings, it is seen that there is a lot of belief in the person. Lot of passionate identification. In a restaurant, you see people deeply involved in the story of "me, me, and I did this...", then in sat-sang they are the perfect little buddhas. But in certain moments, they are deeply involved in this and passionately.

So this is why I ask, "What about the personal identity?"

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The Embodiment of "Yes" - 10:34 minutes

“So much is happening in our life and you are bearing witness to it.
And there is a part of you that doesn't participate.”


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQsbDv8x9co

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQsbDv8x9co


:26 - So much is happening in our life and you are bearing witness to it. And there is a part of you that doesn't participate.

:42 - There is an imagine here in India of two birds. The bird is building the nest - very busy. And the other is just watching. This nest building bird is the ego mind. And the still bird - it the Presence. The sense I Am, it is there. Silent. Formless. Everything is taking place in it's presence. While the body and the being is in operation, it is always here.

1:27 - When you say "I", it is referring to that one. But we have converted our "I" into "me". And so the "me" is where all the energy is focused. This is where consciousness it hanging out in the modification of, "I am this person, I am John, Susan," and all your projections. But there is always that presence that merely sees. It has no investments. It only sees.

2:05 - In Sat-sang, I am always point to that which is never not there. It is always here. And in front of it the busy, busy mind of the play, which is not real, goes on in the presence of this. This is what you are called on to recognize. Not just to believe it is this. Don't just believe it is there - confirm, verify for yourself.

2:47 - Are you not the one who can be without experience? This is consciousness. Just consciousness. If a being should appear to you out of the heavens and say, "My love, I'll give all this Universe to you. I have the power to give everything in this world to you, in exchange for your consciousness."

3:19 - Is it a good deal? Because without consciousness, none of this exists. There is one who can say, "Take it. And I don't want the world. Take also the consciousness. I don't mind." Who is this one? It could be you.

4:00 - Too much energy is given to merely the forms of manifestation. Names and forms. So much investment it gives through what? Through attention. Attention is your currency. With attention, you can bargain in this world. Because the greatest thing you can do is to give your attention to something. Because whatever attention you are calling your experience, you are watching all these things.

4:33 - If there was no identity, you would enjoy these flowers without identifying, "I am a rose lover." Oh, enjoy. You don't have to be a rose lover. Love doesn't have to be a love story. It can just be love, and it can also have a story.

5:00 - All of this is available. But not in exchange for yourself. You are the witness of all of this. It is about time we paid attention to what is sacred inside your own self. Everything else comes and goes. All the things we want in this world is only for this body to enjoy. And even this body you cannot keep. Find that which you cannot lose. It cannot be stolen. It cannot be borrowed. It cannot be lost, accept through dream. You are just passing through this world. And this world is just passing through you.

6:16 - This is why I said, say yes, not by my invitation or command. But to the all possible inside. Don't ask for a contract. Don't ask for an explanation to be worked out. It is an intuitive thing - a call. And you feel this call also. A call into silence. Into timelessness, into space, into wisdom, into love, into the all encompassing one. Say yes to this thing. Unreservedly. Because your mind will do everything to stop you from this. It will say, soon, later, I'm coming, I'm coming, or blatantly -"NO!".

7:12 - And if you say, no, then you may still continue in your life, but with a compromise. Go all the way. When you see a Buddha, you are seeing is the embodiment of "yes". Christ is the embodiment of "yes". Every free soul is the embodiment of "yes". And how radiant they are, how full, how peaceful. All the mind keeps you in denial. "Yes, I'm coming. I'll wait until my kids grow up. I'll come."

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8:52 Don't live life as only intention. It's okay, it has it's place. But find your being. Because it's here already. Because no one is asking you to create a being. Or to be me. No be yourself. Find yourself. Do you know what the Buddha looks like? Just like you. Do you know what God looks like? Just like you.

9:25 - Behind the face of worry, and time, and projects, events, and fears. All of this peeling away. One comes to the face of God. So you continue just like you are. Don't purchase anything. Don't hold on to any self-image. Don't think how I'd like to be. Just leave everything. Everything. Go into the marketplace with no money, and be happy.

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"Only Two Real Choices" - 9:06 minutes

“Just hand over your existence to existence.”


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CGz9FWEegU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CGz9FWEegU

I've lost the link to the original vid. Some added info at the end.

:42 - It is said that we only effectively have two real choices:

1) To go along with the thought flow, to stay back only in the place of only observing. There is something profound about this recognition. And, it has to keep on confirming itself.

Go along with the mind stream that is calling you, and something climbs on board and you go off. Meaning, you feel distracted, you come into a mine field of distraction. And then in this state you have a feeling of being divided, a bit lost.

1:11 - 2) Or, the other choice is to simply stay back and only in a place of observing and everything comes and goes. But the witness of what comes and goes, does not come and go. And there is something profound about this recognition. And it has to keep reaffirming itself because like a reflex, the attention goes back to what it is use to. Which is to somehow create relationship to thoughts and then this combined energy amounts to something you enjoy also.

1:55 - I am not saying to be afraid of thoughts. I have no fear of thoughts. But if you do not know that you are only the witness of them and that they have no power, apart from your own power that is supplied by your own interest, belief and identity gives power to these thoughts. If we don't know clearly enough, then you come into the state of distraction. You are believing that you are your thoughts.

2:30 - As you become more clear of witnessing the traffic of thoughts, then everything, all thoughts, all feelings, every sensation is more like a tourist. They are just passing through. You are not offering residence to thought or feeling. It can happen, for a moment or two or three. It's here but it is not leaving an residual impression. It's not leaving any footprints in your own mind. This is a beautiful state of being.

3:07 - Now you enjoy some space inside yourself and then out of the blue a thought comes and says you can keep it. There's always one or two. Again some sadness comes. Why? Not because the thought came, but something purchases this thought. And that is the difference. Any thought can come, but if ...


"...you don't buy into it, it has no where else to go but to go back into emptiness."

3:40 - If you combine yourself with it, then it is as though you give it, or amplify it and give it an extended visa. Then it hangs around because you have a relationship with it.

What I am saying, without the words, is very simple. With words, sometimes we have to work with the mind and so you see and try. So at times it can seem more like a task. But if you simply follow through, it becomes more and more easier each time. Then at a certain time almost no effort is required. They simply cannot enter into this solar plexus state of being. Nothing is there. No trouble. Any concept you can use. It has no power to mesmerize you, or to create some distraction for you. It is a training to some extend, but it is not sweaty. It does not take years and years of practice. No, you start now, and maybe in a short time you are saying, oh, it is so easy. But don't think about it, do it.

5:07 - It will come out of the blue, that it will say that you are not ready. You haven't really got it right. You haven't got it. You are use to doubting yourself. So you listen to them very easily. But now, you are on to it, and you can be aware of this tendency. And more space opens up and you are able to observe more clearly - that's just a thought.

5:40 - And how many thoughts have we believed? And they are there somehow creating some subtle influences in your life. Some become so accustom to them that you don't even question them any more. In Sat-sang, they begin to come up to the surface and also it begins to feel like a fear. Like you are going to loose something precious. This is nothing. This is nothing at all, but play in your mind. Because you are only in doubt and this negative tendencies, the Vasana (subtle desire) energies can only influence you while you are in doubt. They will work at you. "Oh, look at her."

6:39 - As so as you are undivided, and I'm alway pointing you back to the space which is not involved in any decision making. It's just a space of being. And it is always present. If you feel yourself, that feeling arises out your being. And, it is itself representing being, the feeling of I. The feeling of I am. It is being. It is your beingness.

7:04 - If you follow what I am saying about this, you will see that that being is undivided. Whole. And the perfume arising out of that stillness is ...joy and space, and silence, compassion, and love. All of this comes very naturally. None of this are you cultivating. All of this comes naturally. It's there already.

7:45 - But are we able to bear the assault of the old regime? Of the old way of thinking? Because they will come and some are very quick to believe. And if you are quick to believe, you will have a lot of mood swings. One minute you are sitting on top of the world, and the next you are sitting on satan's lap. Because you follow these extremes. If you identify with them and you are aware, then in time they don't hook you in. Then in a short time you will see that nothing touches you.

Just Hand over your existence to existence...

Once you have seen it. You are touched by your heart, not mind, and longing so deeply that you are on fire now and nothing else is going to be satisfying now. You have become pregnant with yourself. Every thing is lesser desire now. This burning, this fire is burning off all the unnecessary for you.

At a certain point everything I say is a lie, even the I. See it as a blessed experience. This will not go on for the rest of your life. This longing, this burning is long over due. When you don't know anything any more, this is good. When you knew so much, this is trouble. When you think you know something, so much fear is coming, so much jealousy, competition, arrogance.

So now you find you know nothing at all, and you find yourself sitting on the lap of God. Something being combed out, being squeezed out. So resist forming any conclusions about what is appearing in your mind and feelings. Just hand over your existence to existence. Just cook in the pot of God. When you are tender and ready, he will pop you in and burp.

A human being like this...the whole world is waiting for.

So at some times, you are going through the birth pains to a deeper scene. An uncovering, and it is true - I don't know any thing at all, I don't know any thing at all. There is space in not knowing anything at all. And you don't have to know. You are not a master mind. You don't have to know every thing. We use the example like a piece of ice in a glass of water melting. The ice cannot turn around to see if some melting is taking place. But the ice is disappearing. The mind wants to go pick up the ice to see and then says no I'll leave it. Goes to look again, and stops, says no I'll leave it.

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“Pure Perceiving” - 3:02 minutes

“Just let your eyes look. Resist the temptation to label things. At first, because this exercise is pointed out,
it might feel more difficult. Where normally your are looking at many things a not giving a name to.”


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLekhCN3fUY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLekhCN3fUY


:28 - Just let your eyes look. Resist the temptation to label things. At first, because this exercise is pointed out, it might feel more difficult. Where normally your are looking at many things a not giving a name to.

:50 - But now, train to look at different things. But don't say: sky or water, butterfly or street. Just look. And don't put any name or the feeling of "I". Just Look. And it will quickly silence your mind.

1:25 - And you will feel complete harmony. And no differences. And your natural self-awareness it present. And there is certainly no judgements, no comparisons. It's just pure perceiving.

2:04 - And when you are doing your own inquiry, what happens here. Locating first the place, the seat of witnessing. Where you are observing all that arises internally through the emotions and thought. And externally as the world of objects, names and forms. But you located that place where the seeing or the perceiving arises from this, and feel that it's without image.

2:33 - Naturally, silence comes into the mind. Naturally. The feeling of personality, and all of that THINS away.

[NancyV]

I like Mooji! Don't want any guru anymore but I sure do like Mooji. He makes a lot of sense and knows what he's talking about.

[RunningDeer]

“Effortless Silence” - 4:59 minutes

"I" is a Blend of Being and Conditioning
"Keeping Quiet or Effortless Silence"


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bB7KeOPwszc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bB7KeOPwszc

Nobody can keep quiet. Nobody can do it. You can keep quiet for awhile. Because the I who is keeping quiet is itself not keeping quiet.

:24 - The I who is keeping quiet is usually a blend of being and conditioning. First, the feeling "I am" unassociated, this one itself, is grace. The feeling "I am" we call it, "Conscious Presence". It's not person. Then the identification with the body comes. And then the sense "I am", "I am me" comes. Some context for "I am" arises and then the "I am" starts to feel that "I am this". I'll take care of number one first, and then the one I love most is number two. And number three and four. And then the rest..

1:06 - This is the perverted I. And as long as that is the ruling, the presiding force in this body, then where will be trouble. It will try to do, but until it understands that it is consciousness itself, and not the person, it will never succeed. Of course, the "I" that is playing through the ego is also an expression of consciousness.

1:37 - But it is a very slow evolution towards emptiness again. Because it will cling to the identity "I am a person". It won't want to let go of it.

1:50 - So this is why I say that nobody can keep quiet. All that can happen is that you somehow recognize your true place and there, there is effortless silence.

Effortless Silence. When you discover that, it doesn't matter whether you are speaking, climbing a tree, or in the middle of a city - there is only silence.

2:15 - Your Being is "Complete Silence". Not you keeping silent. This is why I said, "Nobody can keep quiet". You can keep quiet for a bit. But the silence that is inherent, integral in your being - you cannot do by effort. It's simply this. You are silence, and grace, and peace.

2:35 - But when you have the feel of individuality - personal individuality - then there must be effort. And this effort will not be constant. It will not be consistent. It will be waves of success, waves of failure. Sometimes getting better slowly.

2:56 - What I point to you directly is that which is behind the mind, which is not contained in the bubble of the mind. You are already that. And sat-sang is showing you that you are already this. Because it is you who is watching your mind. You are capable of watching your mind tendencies, emotions, time, intellect, and memory. All of this means nothing, if you are not the one observing them. But you have to be conscious that you are the witness of them.

3:30 - When you are clear about this, then the second question can be asked, "Can you locate the witness itself?" And this must be direct experience. Once you know that for sure inside - silence becomes effortless for you.

3:50 - But, as long as you feel that you are the doer, I did this, I can meditate for fours hours without getting up. No. You will not do it for awhile, because we are unable to embrace the higher meaning to say keep quiet. It is helpful even for the ego to say keep quiet, it is helpful. It does something.

4:15 - But ultimately you have to come completely out of that state into your natural state, where silence is natural and effortless. Then whether you are talking, or singing, or sleeping, or are awake - that silence is here, now. But somehow, it appears as though it is eclipsed by our fascination, our projection, and our limited identity. It's absorbing most of the energy from the consciousness.

It is being pushed into the identity, into the personality. That's it.

[CdnSirian]

This is all so true. We came here to be human -- yet not necessarily to stop being anything else.

[RunningDeer]

“Reaction of Anger to Unfairness,” (1 of 2) 7:34 minutes

"Who really is angry? And really about what? Who is the one who feels injustice has been put in your face. And really throw all your attention to locate the center of that. That point where it feels that because usually in such cases, why it is so intense is because there’s strong identification there. If there is no identification, then nothing..."


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIoCw5zy6I4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIoCw5zy6I4


:10 - First of all I’m going to tell you that the childhood, the teenager, the adult doesn't exist.

:24 - It’s like I say if you go into a room and there’s a bad smell there, you will sniff until you find the source of the smell. And you might find it’s like a dead rat or something. Then you get rid of it.
:44 - So this smell is the smell of unfairness, and rage, rip up inside. This is the smell and you are tracing it back. Where is this smell where is it coming from? You say unfairness. This unfairness arouses this smell of anger.

1:03 - Who really is angry? And really about what? Who is the one who feels injustice has been put in your face. And really throw all your attention to locate the center of that. That point where it feels that because usually in such cases, why it is so intense is because there’s strong identification there. If there is no identification, then nothing. Identification like, if something is happening to “me and you”, there’s a very strong there is a strong smell of “you and me”, or “I and other”, or what ever then usually can flare up such strong, pungent smells, you see?

1:52 - So the “I” you try to locate, and say where is it? And who is the one that is really so angry?
2:00 - Anger I can sense. Anger, we know. But the who is really suffering the anger just for a moment you sink your attention there and if you can go to the very core of where suffering is and see if you can find a sufferer there.

2:15 - This is the question there. And I think you’ve understood it (?).
2:19 - If you, do you work with it when the issue comes up? Or..
2:23 - Sometimes if the button is being pressed, maybe there’s not enough fire power to ask the question. You see? It fills the screen so quickly. Doesn’t it? It’s so quick. Though, in moments like this, if the rage or the anger or whatever is.

2:42 - If the reaction is so strong it means that almost all your attention is on it. You’ve logged in. And so you are in that space, in that room. So to speak, Huh?
2:55 - In moments like this, of such fierce throbbing, what I say, in this moment, don’t try to rescue yourself.
3:04 - First thing. The reflex is to try and go in and try to move things about and find some distraction or whatever to get out of it.

3:12 - Or, more than this, you don’t want to get out of it. You’re fully in it and you revel in it. You see? One of these things happen.
3:21 - So in this moment, be fully present with this. Feel it in the body. It’s energetic presence, the anger whatever is it is there.

3:33 - And I say in this moment, keep quiet. These words maybe doesn’t seem to make sense. But just be present. Don’t interpret or judge which are probably strong reactions pulling to the attention to go and get stuck in.
3:50 - Be aware of this. Be aware of these pulls. But be as though you only exists through your eyes alone, in this moment.

4:01- That you can only see and feel. Don't interfere for a bit, keep quiet. And very soon a sense separation is there. There be a distinctly a space of peace or quiet. And that there is a shaking tree. And you will see which part of it, which side you are on.

4:25 - You’ll be the place of that stillness will be there somehow. You can still feel the ripples inside the body. You can perceive them, but they won't be so claustrophobic. Feel that being-ness. When this sense of relief comes also don't even purchase this relief also. Still just be the eyes that see. Don't identify with anything at all. This is one way.

4:57 - If this form is quite strong, or the reaction is quite strong, in a meditative state of quite time, would you work on this?
5:09 - No, it’s enough.

5:10 - Gradually, what’s happening that you are allowing yourself to be present, rather than to get stuck in, ti jump in and identify, which perpetuates that state. And you are not available in this moment. You are so caught up. And sometimes life gives you opportunities when this rage is there. The doorbell will ring, or the phone will ring, okay answer the phone, just to break your pull.

5:42 - Some children will come to the door for trick or treats - something in life is saying okay come out of this. And sometimes you don’t want, you get very angry that people come interrupt your anger. And some people they are able to break off and to go for a walk and just know, “that’s enough”. Just to break and make that choice. It might seem difficult. But after few steps the lungs open up and something a new ambient is coming.

6:16 - Often, when you are in that state, also, you cannot communicate with your partner, and they will dismiss. It’s easy to dismiss you because you are not coming clean. You are like a fight. This is not... Then you are unjust. You are being unjust yourself. You see?

6:37 - What if there’s some feeling that a trouble childhood, there some unfairness issue came ...

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7:07 - First of all, I will tell you, that the childhood, the teenage, the adult doesn't exist. It doesn’t exist. It doesn’t exist. You are dreaming. Your are the Being-ness that is aware of the anger at any stage - childhood, teenager, middle age, old age. Doesn’t matter.


[“Reaction of Anger to Unfairness,” Part 2 - continued below #9 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?48940-Mooji-Videos-and-Transcripts&p=543788&viewfull=1#post543788)]

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“Reaction of Anger to Unfairness,” (2 of 2) - 7:36 minutes

[continued from - "Reaction of Anger to Unfairness": Part 1 of 2, post #8 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?48940-Mooji-Videos-and-Transcripts&p=543783&viewfull=1#post543783)}

“There is no history for the Being-ness. It is fresh. You are fresh. In your true place, you have no past, no future. These things don't even touch you. You're so clean beyond a concept of clean. Pure. You are not in things or out of things. It is Immaculate.”


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSNw3Y1Svu0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSNw3Y1Svu0


:12 - It doesn’t exist. You are dreaming. You are the being-ness that is aware of the anger at any stage of childhood, teenager, middle age, old age. It doesn’t matter.

:32 - I want you to come to this place of seeing. Because if we give remedies along the way, it is perpetuating a belief in a self that doesn't really exist. It is looking for medicine for a ghost. Everybody believes in story, and believing in the stories, we make history out of stories.

:59 - There is no history for the Being-ness. It is fresh. You are fresh. In your true place, you have no past, no future. These things don't even touch you. You're so clean beyond a concept of clean. Pure. You are not in things or out of things. It is Immaculate.

1:23 - But on account of the identification of this body - "I am this body" - once that identification has somehow firmed itself, crystalized inside this body, the Being-ness goes through a kind of amnesia and forgets itself. All of this - you have come here to remember, recognize who you are.

1:45 - Not for therapy. The ghost will take the therapy. And it might seem, no but, for something so entrenched as an idea, so deeply rooted some radical, therapeutic work, some discipline must be done. If there is deep identification with the body-mind sense of being, then perhaps you will have to go through this. But I don't believe that it is impossible for you to be the "cow that jumped over the moon".

2:37 - Meaning that somehow that you don't somehow follow the projections of the conditioned mind. Even the condition and the conditioned mind something is aware of this conditioning. It’s reporting about this conditioning. It’s watching this conditioning. From where is this conditioning being watched and by what? Is my present question for you. What is watching this conditioning? And even the report of this conditioning? Can that be described?

3:20 - Let's keep it alive. Can that which is aware of the conditioning and the report and the reporting of the conditioning and behavior. It is also aware of the memory of the event of the previous pain..painful situations. And the reporting of them and even the reporter of them. There’s something that watches this thing. Is true or not?

3:56 - Like I say, when I’ve tried, I come up blank.
4:00 - Yes. Like now? You are blank?
4:02 - Right now, I just feel my body sensations and my breath.

4:07 - Okay, then let’s start right there. Body sensation and breath very intimate. Breath is going on all the time. Attention is...I’m aware of my attention of the breath. Body sensation. That which is watching the breath and body sensation.

4:26 - Then I try to go there right now.
4:28 - No. You are already there. You are already there. You are looking from there. You cannot look AT that. You look FROM that. You’re looking from that.

4:39 - Therefore, breath appears in front of you, body sensations appear in front of you. Memory of events appear in front of you. The telling of those events appear in front of you.
4:55 - The idea, “Oh, yes, I must go there.” That’s an idea. If you purchase this idea, you are in a struggle of a journey to get to someplace you already are.

5:18 - Nothing. Yes, yes.
5:25 - Where can you come to this edge of nothing? Anything that arises out of nothing is what? Bubbles of nothing. Feel how this feels. No thoughts are needed.

5:58 - I feel...good.
6:05 - Yes. Yes, goodness is felt also in this.
6:11 - Is there any quality that you can describe about that which simply is? You say nothing.
6:18 - Does it have a birthday? Does it have a childhood? Does it have relationship? Look. Don’t think. Look. It's fresh. Thinking is past - this is fresh.

7:04 - You are it. Other experiences happen in you. Perceived in you. There’s no separation in that.

7:27 - Dropping something simply mean withdrawing your attention from this. Or leaving where it is. Not holding the hand of any idea.
7:36 - Right now, I’m just hearing your voice.

[RunningDeer]

Mooji Quotes from “Deep Sleep,”

"When consciousness believes that "I am the body", the body becomes the pajamas of the being.
That is all. All is sleeping. In this modification, "I am the body".
Yes. The body becomes the pajamas of the being.
The ego-pajama."

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"It is the consciousness, which is not the body, which is identifying that - "I am the body"."

"Don't try to kill the mind, you cannot.
Just go beyond.
Stay beyond.
You're the Witness of the mind."

"Actually, many thoughts arise in the space of our consciousness. And most of them don't register because you have no interest in them. This is important to note. They come as potential, but they don't get any interest from you. So they don't register in consciousness. So effectively, they haven't happened!"

"No interest means they are not "saved" in the consciousness, in the psyche. When you are in the position to recognize that even I, which is mind or the feeling of existence is itself the earliest phenomenon. Then you are in the unborn state, the unspeakable. You will not define yourself as a person. It will have very little meaning for you."


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"We don't need to "get rid" of the person or even the feeling of ego.
Just leave it and go beyond. Into the place before ego. The witness of ego.
Don't try to kill the mind. You cannot.
Just go beyond. Stay beyond.
You are the witness of the mind. The mind depends on your witnessing.
If you are not there, there's no mind.
If there's no consciousness, there's no mind."

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"The first I, the purest form of I, is mind. And I is synonymous with consciousness, before the birth of duality. Once this is "seen" then everything becomes very clear. So the thoughts, they come. The energy, they come first and then somehow the have to link with the thinker-thought. The thoughts have to link to the thinker thoughts. And the thinker thought is difficult to catch because it goes by the name "I"."


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[Jenci]

"We don't need to "get rid" of the person or even the feeling of ego.
Just leave it and go beyond. Into the place before ego. The witness of ego.
Don't try to kill the mind. You cannot.
Just go beyond. Stay beyond.
You are the witness of the mind. The mind depends on your witnessing.
If you are not there, there's no mind.
If there's no consciousness, there's no mind."


Thank you Paula, I love Mooji too and I am pleased to see that you are exploring his teachings. He is full of compassion and humour as he delivers a no-nonsense approach to self-inquiry.

He is absolutely right that you cannot kill the mind....well that is my experience too. Anyway, the only thing that would ever make the attempt to kill the mind is the mind/ego itself.

His advice is to go beyond the mind and he recommends doing that with self-inquiry.


Our true nature which is where we want to go to get beyond the mind is permanent, unchanging, not moving, no coming and going.

The mind and its thoughts are impermanent. There is a coming and going. There is movement, there is a start and end to them.

So we can differentiate between the two.

There is also a third element called "attention". It is not our true nature either because we can observe a movement of attention, a start and end to it but attention is not the mind either because attention can move on the mind or away from it but attention is a powerful tool that we use to go beyond the mind.

Attention is pure energy and when attention is focused on the mind and its thoughts it feeds them with this energy, resulting in a stronger sense of identification with the mind and the contents.

When attention is focused on what is beyond the mind, the Awareness, it feeds our 'sense' of Awareness. It is like a muscle which gets worked out. The more you use this attention, the stronger the sense is of the Awareness.

In the early stages of self-inquiry it may only be possible to keep the attention focused on Awareness for a split second before the habitual pull of attention is back to the mind and therefore identification with it.

The more this is practised and the stronger the sense of Awareness becomes, the longer attention can be focused there.

This essentially is what Mooji and teachers of self-inquiry teach. It takes discipline and repetition but eventually attention will learn to remain on the Awareness as the pull back to the mind will be diminished.





Here are the two steps to this self-inquiry technique which Mooji is pointing out in post number 6 of this thread.



2:56 - What I point to you directly is that which is behind the mind, which is not contained in the bubble of the mind. You are already that. And sat-sang is showing you that you are already this. Because it is you who is watching your mind. You are capable of watching your mind tendencies, emotions, time, intellect, and memory. All of this means nothing, if you are not the one observing them. But you have to be conscious that you are the witness of them.

First you become aware of the mind and its contents. You are aware that you are just the witness of them but note here that if you are witnessing your mind your attention is focused on your mind.




3:30 - When you are clear about this, then the second question can be asked, "Can you locate the witness itself?" And this must be direct experience. Once you know that for sure inside - silence becomes effortless for you.

Second, now we are taking the next step. Once we realise we are the witness (with attention on the mind) we are going to shift our attention back around to the witness.

We do this by asking a question with inquiry, 'can we locate the witness' but we do not answer the question, instead we have a direct experience of it.

As I said before, when we shift attention onto the witness/Awareness, we may only be able to have a direct experience of it for a split second in the early days of this inquiry.

Perservere with this technique and in the end it will happen all by itself. Very often people miss out this very important second step in inquiry and they just remain as a witness to their mind and they believe that this witness is the Awareness, not realising that their attention is still on the mind.......and they have not made the shift.

Jeanette

[RunningDeer]

Here are the two steps to this self-inquiry technique which Mooji is pointing out in post number 6 of this thread.



2:56 - What I point to you directly is that which is behind the mind, which is not contained in the bubble of the mind. You are already that. And sat-sang is showing you that you are already this. Because it is you who is watching your mind. You are capable of watching your mind tendencies, emotions, time, intellect, and memory. All of this means nothing, if you are not the one observing them. But you have to be conscious that you are the witness of them.

First you become aware of the mind and its contents. You are aware that you are just the witness of them but note here that if you are witnessing your mind your attention is focused on your mind.




3:30 - When you are clear about this, then the second question can be asked, "Can you locate the witness itself?" And this must be direct experience. Once you know that for sure inside - silence becomes effortless for you.

Second, now we are taking the next step. Once we realise we are the witness (with attention on the mind) we are going to shift our attention back around to the witness.

We do this by asking a question with inquiry, 'can we locate the witness' but we do not answer the question, instead we have a direct experience of it.

As I said before, when we shift attention onto the witness/Awareness, we may only be able to have a direct experience of it for a split second in the early days of this inquiry.

Perservere with this technique and in the end it will happen all by itself. Very often people miss out this very important second step in inquiry and they just remain as a witness to their mind and they believe that this witness is the Awareness, not realising that their attention is still on the mind.......and they have not made the shift.

Jeanette

Thank you, Jeanette. Lots of jewels you've passed along for me to hav-a-look.

Paula :wave:

[Eram]

Very nice thread Paula!

Here Mooji speaks about the illusions of time.
Very interesting and clarifying.

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[another bob]

Once we realise we are the witness (with attention on the mind) we are going to shift our attention back around to the witness.

We do this by asking a question with inquiry, 'can we locate the witness' but we do not answer the question, instead we have a direct experience of it.

As I said before, when we shift attention onto the witness/Awareness, we may only be able to have a direct experience of it for a split second in the early days of this inquiry.

Perservere with this technique and in the end it will happen all by itself. Very often people miss out this very important second step in inquiry and they just remain as a witness to their mind and they believe that this witness is the Awareness, not realising that their attention is still on the mind.......and they have not made the shift.

Excellent, and Thank You so much for kindly pointing this out -- very helpful service, Sister!

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