Sidney
27th August 2012, 01:28
This is interesting testimony from Stanly Kubricks (the man who filmed the MOCK MOON LANDING)wife,,,I had not seen yet. I would love to hear what others think about this. I truly have not believed for a while that they went to moon way back then. Have we been back since? We will never know. NASA...Never a straight answer.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7Ge8KiaWTA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUmqvNdAml4&feature=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4RZY1DkcSk&feature=related
Thought i'd throw this one in for fun. ; )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLOth-BuCNY
Cidersomerset
27th August 2012, 05:50
Thanks Starchild the film is strange I posted it back along when I posted Jay Wiedners documentry Kubrick's Odyssey, Secrets Hidden in the films of Stanley Kubrick
Which was taken from U/tube virtually straight away probably for copyright as it was new.....So I posted the above vid and a discussion about it ensued worth a look
if your interrested...
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?39266-Jay-Weidner-Kubrick-s-Odyssey-Secrets-Hidden-in-the-films-of-Stanley-Kubrick
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16th February 2012 06:44Link to Post #46 Elixer
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Re: Jay Weidner, Kubrick's Odyssey, Secrets Hidden in the films of Stanley Kubrick
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Dark Side of The Moon
41:00 - 3 years ago
Dark Side of the Moon is a French documentary by director William Karel which
This is similar to the vid I posted on top of page one, but longer I think some of the footage from
this documentry made up the other, worth watching as well I think.....
That documentary has been widely discussed. It's considered a disinfo piece, most likely brought out by CIA-types. It's a ridiculous docu, really.
However, Jay mentions in his Livestream with Kerry and A. Sanchez, that it does contain the most interesting footage of Kubrick's wife and that she is actually saying some powerful stuff. She has never really spoken out about any of it, except here.
Jay believes that the footage of the wife is the reason they created this hideous documentary around it, to sort of bury the lead, hide gems in crap, as well as to paint the entire we-never-went-to-the-moon idea in a disprovable light.
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Hi Elexir...
That documentary has been widely discussed. It's considered a disinfo piece, most likely brought out by CIA-types. It's a ridiculous docu, really.
However, Jay mentions in his Livestream with Kerry and A. Sanchez, that it does contain the most interesting footage of Kubrick's wife and that she is actually saying some powerful stuff. She has never really spoken out about any of it, except here.
Jay believes that the footage of the wife is the reason they created this hideous documentary around it, to sort of bury the lead, hide gems in crap, as well as to paint the entire we-never-went-to-the-moon idea in a disprovable light.
It is a odd documentry and as you say asks more questions than answers...
biography of Karel, William
1940, Tunisia
William Karel was born in Tunisia, studied in Paris before emigrating to Israel, where he lived for 10 years in a kibbutz. In 1981 he returned to France working for over 10 years as a photographer before concentrating on writing and directing. In 1995, he received an Emmy Award for his documentary J.F. Kennedy. He has written and directed many successful documentaries including Dark Side of the Moon and CIA's secret wars.
He's known for making critical documentaries about US politics etc.
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16th February 2012 17:32Link to Post #50 Cidersomerset
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William Karel
Television networks in Canada and Australia have broadcast a program called "Dark Side Of The Moon".
Here is the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation's description
It is described as a "mockumentary", which is a "mock documentary"; ie, satire.
It appears to be a serious documentary at the beginning. It shows that President Nixon was concerned that the television cameras on the moon would fail, in which case nobody on earth would be able to see the astronauts on the moon. So Nixon authorized the filming of a moon landing in a studio, and have the video ready for broadcast in case the real television cameras failed.
Henry Kissinger and Donald Rumsfeld traveled to England and asked Stanley Kubrick if they could use his studio. Kubrick agreed, but when he saw how incompetent the CIA actors were, he decided to help them film it.
At the end of the television program, we realize that the show is satire.
The Dark Side Of The Moon is similar to the Penn and Teller show. Specifically, neither of these television shows provide any serious evidence that people landed on the moon. Rather, they try to encourage the audience to laugh at those of us who realize the Apollo moon landing was a hoax. These videos are damage control; they are propaganda; they are attempts to manipulate you.
Magazines such as Popular Mechanics, Scientific American, and Skeptic also try to give us a bad image rather than dispute our arguments. The web site referred to as Urban Legends does this also.
As I mentioned in other documents, when a criminal tries to cover up his crime, he runs the risk of releasing more information about himself. The Dark Side Of The Moon allows us to have a better understanding of who faked the moon landing.
First of all, some important people agreed to be part of this show. For example, the show has interviews with:
Henry Kissinger
Donald Rumsfeld
Buzz Aldrin (the astronaut)
Lawrence Eagleburger (held various high level positions in the US government)
Richard Helms (former CIA director)
Alexander Haig
Why would any of those people agree to be part of a silly "mockumentary"? This especially applies to Donald Rumsfeld, who has a full-time job.
I think they are all worried that the Apollo moon hoax will be exposed, and that each of them is somehow involved in the crime (it is a crime, not a mere hoax).
The people who produced and financed this show, such as William Karel, should also be considered as suspects in the filming or covering up of the Apollo moon crime.
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William Karel seems to be a serious documentry maker....As you say whether he was used by insiders to create this programme to confuse the issue by mixing poss facts and fiction would make sence...I must admit when I saw it yesterday I thought it a bit to good to be true, but still interesting for all the main Charectors to submit to be in it...
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16th February 2012 21:42Link to Post #52 Elixer
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Re: Jay Weidner, Kubrick's Odyssey, Secrets Hidden in the films of Stanley Kubrick
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William Karel
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William Karel seems to be a serious documentry maker....As you say whether he was used by insiders to create this programme to confuse the issue by mixing poss facts and fiction would make sence...I must admit when I saw it yesterday I thought it a bit to good to be true, but still interesting for all the main Charectors to submit to be in it...
I saw it again a few months back and it seemed obvious that they used some Rumsfeld quotes and snippets out of context. He says that there was a job that needed to be done and that it required a special talent and he knew just the man to do it.
At that point the documentary's narrator cuts in to fill in the blanks by saying something like "That job was faking the moon landing. The man was Stanley Kubrick" So we hear the generalities from Rumsfeld, which really could be about anything, and then the film maker 'brings it home'.
That's what gave it away for me.
So I doubt that Rummy and Kissinger actually sat down for interviews for this thing, but granted permission or something for their footage to be used.
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16th February 2012 22:12Link to Post #53 Cidersomerset
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Thanks that is possible but what is odd looking at the history of Williams Karels work according to what i can find , he is a serious film/documentry
maker so it just makes the whole thing more odd imho.....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Karel
Filmography
1988 : De Gaulle? Connais pas, Envoyé spécial, France 2.
1989 : L'Argentine dans la crise, Envoyé spécial, France 2.
1989 : Les juifs du bout du monde, Envoyé spécial, France 2.
1992 : La Rafle du Vel' d'Hiv, La Marche du siècle, France 3.
1992 : Les deux morts de Joseph Staline, Planète chaude, France 3.
1993 : La Guerre du Kippour, Les Brûlures de l'Histoire, France 3.
1993 : Sartre-Aron : 50 ans d'histoires, Les Brûlures de l'Histoire, France 3.
1993 : John F. Kennedy, Les Brûlures de l'Histoire, France 3.
1994 : Le FMI en Jamaïque, Grand Format, Arte.
1994 : La Nuit des Longs Couteaux, Les Brûlures de l'Histoire, France 3.
1995 : Une journée particulière : le 8 mai 1945, Les Brûlures de l'Histoire, France 3.
1995 : Albert Cohen, Un Siècle d'écrivains, France 3.
1995 : Contre l'oubli (co-réalisation avec Blanche Finger), Documents, France 2.
1996 : Primo Levi, Un Siècle d'écrivains, France 3.
1996 : Mourir à Verdun, Les Dossiers de l'Histoire, France 3.
1996 : La Cagoule, Les Dossiers de l'Histoire, France 3.
1997 : Une terre deux fois promise : Israël-Palestine, Les Dossiers de l'Histoire, France 3.
1999 : Histoire d'une droite extrême, Les Mercredis de l'Histoire, Arte.
1999 : Le Journal commence à vingt heures, La Vie en face, Arte.
2000 : Les Hommes de la Maison Blanche, Les Mercredis de l'Histoire, Arte.
2001 : Conversation avec les hommes du Président, Histoire.
2001 : François Mitterrand. Un mensonge d'Etat passé sous silence, France 3.
2002 : Valéry Giscard d'Estaing, le théâtre du pouvoir, Les Dossiers de l'Histoire, France 3.
2002 : Opération Lune or Dark Side of the Moon, Les Mercredis de l'Histoire, Arte.
2003 : CIA, Guerres secrètes - 1947-1977, Opérations clandestines, Les Mercredis de l'Histoire, Arte.
2003 : CIA, Guerres secrètes - 1977-1989, La fin des illusions, Les Mercredis de l'Histoire, Arte.
2003 : CIA, Guerres secrètes - 1989-2003, D'une guerre à l'autre, Les Mercredis de l'Histoire, Arte.
2004 : The World According to Bush
2005 : La Fille du Juge.
2008 : Meurtres à 'Empire State Building or The Empire State Building Murders
2009 : Mais qui a tué Maggie?
2009 : 1929, about 1929 crisis.
2010 : Gallimard, le Roi Lire, Arte.
2011 : Album, Arte.
2011 : Philippe Roth, sans complexe, Arte.
2011 : Looking for Nicolas Sarkozy, Arte.
Like you say it could be a attempt by William to get this out in attempt to riddicule the conspiricy theorists on behalfe of elites, or to get some part of the truth out ??
I was looking for a comment by William himselfe on the project, maybe there is something in French somewhere ??
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As I said above what was the reason for documentry maker to make the film....It seems out of charector to the rest of his career ??
Biography
After studying in Paris, Karel emigrated to Israel where he lived for about 10 years in a kibbutz. Returning to France in 1981, he turned to photography and worked for more than ten years as a photo-reporter for several agencies like Gamma (1972–1976) and Sygma (1976–1983). Then he started to direct movies.
Since the end of the eighties, Karel has directed many historical and political documentaries dealing with sensitive subjects of the twentieth century, from the Vel' d'Hiv Roundup (Rafle du Vélodrome d'Hiver) to the Israeli-Arab conflict, while talking about the FMI policy in Jamaica or the extreme right wing in France. His documentaries are frequently broadcast by the Arte and France 3 channels. He has also done portraits of French and American politicians -- Valéry Giscard d'Estaing, François Mitterrand, Jean-Marie Le Pen, John F. Kennedy and George W. Bush.
Studies of the United States are an important part of Karel's work. After The Men of the White House (2000), a film about presidents during periods of crisis, he explored the secrets of the CIA in CIA, Secret Wars (2003). This movie is based primarily on interviews of former CIA directors, former CIA agents such as Robert Baer, and historians. Inspired by Eric Laurent's books about George W. Bush, he released The World According to Bush (2004) which quickly became famous in France through television and theatres.
Refusing to stick to a single genre, he also directed the mockumentary Dark Side of the Moon (2002). In The Empire State Building Murders (2008) he combines clips from film noir and recent interviews with actors to tell a narrative story. He likes to recall François Truffaut's words, "A documentary is one thousand times more of a lie than a fiction, where things are clear from the beginning".
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The last sentence says he may have done it for the 'crack' ? Still does not feel right, Who knows ??
if this post is a bit confusing, its clearer on the thread ...Steve
Sidney
27th August 2012, 14:30
(Quote from Cidersomerset)
Television networks in Canada and Australia have broadcast a program called "Dark Side Of The Moon".
Here is the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation's description
It is described as a "mockumentary", which is a "mock documentary"; ie, satire.
It appears to be a serious documentary at the beginning. It shows that President Nixon was concerned that the television cameras on the moon would fail, in which case nobody on earth would be able to see the astronauts on the moon. So Nixon authorized the filming of a moon landing in a studio, and have the video ready for broadcast in case the real television cameras failed.
Henry Kissinger and Donald Rumsfeld traveled to England and asked Stanley Kubrick if they could use his studio. Kubrick agreed, but when he saw how incompetent the CIA actors were, he decided to help them film it.
At the end of the television program, we realize that the show is satire.
The Dark Side Of The Moon is similar to the Penn and Teller show. Specifically, neither of these television shows provide any serious evidence that people landed on the moon. Rather, they try to encourage the audience to laugh at those of us who realize the Apollo moon landing was a hoax. These videos are damage control; they are propaganda; they are attempts to manipulate you.
Magazines such as Popular Mechanics, Scientific American, and Skeptic also try to give us a bad image rather than dispute our arguments. The web site referred to as Urban Legends does this also.
As I mentioned in other documents, when a criminal tries to cover up his crime, he runs the risk of releasing more information about himself. The Dark Side Of The Moon allows us to have a better understanding of who faked the moon landing.
First of all, some important people agreed to be part of this show. For example, the show has interviews with:
Henry Kissinger
Donald Rumsfeld
Buzz Aldrin (the astronaut)
Lawrence Eagleburger (held various high level positions in the US government)
Richard Helms (former CIA director)
Alexander Haig
Why would any of those people agree to be part of a silly "mockumentary"? This especially applies to Donald Rumsfeld, who has a full-time job.
I think they are all worried that the Apollo moon hoax will be exposed, and that each of them is somehow involved in the crime (it is a crime, not a mere hoax).
The people who produced and financed this show, such as William Karel, should also be considered as suspects in the filming or covering up of the Apollo moon crime.
I am in agreement with what is said here as to me it makes the most sense. The moon landing featured in this film is fake.. The motive behind it seems to be the main debate here.
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