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Tony
27th August 2012, 07:12
Note how a meaning can be changed. This is Neuro-Linguistic Programming.

This from Wikipedia:

By Way of Deception: The Making and Unmaking of a Mossad Officer is a book written by Victor Ostrovsky and Claire Hoy about Ostrovsky's career as a katsa (case officer) in the Israeli Mossad.

The title of the book is supposedly a translation of part of Proverbs 24:6, which Ostrovsky alleges is the former motto of the Mossad: be-tahbūlōt ta`aseh lekhā milkhamāh (Hebrew: בתחבולות תעשה לך מלחמה. Ostrovsky claims this translates, "By Way Of Deception, Thou Shalt Do War."

The Hebrew word בתחבולות translates into English as, "Ploys, Tricks, Trickery, Subterfuges, or Stratagems" (Source: Google Translate) Alternatively, translations of בתחבולות into English in Proverbs 24:6 in Christian Bibles substitute a different meaning from the original Hewbrew.

For example, the King James translation of Proverbs 24:6 is "For by wise counsel thou shalt make thy war"; the American Standard Bible translation is, "For by wise guidance thou shalt make thy war"; the New American Standard Bible translation is "For by wise guidance you will wage war."[1]

In contrast The Jewish Study Bible published by Jewish Publication Society at Oxford University Press (2004) under the editing scrutiny of Michael Fishbane, Adele Berlin and Marc Zvi Brettler reads "For by stratagems you wage war, and victory comes with much planning".


Q. Who chose the chosen people? A.The Chosen people.

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ROMANWKT
27th August 2012, 07:32
Hallo Tony

Thank you for your honesty, you know what I mean.

My warmest regards to you Tony and Kathie as ever

roman

Tony
27th August 2012, 08:24
Hallo Tony

Thank you for your honesty, you know what I mean.

My warmest regards to you Tony and Kathie as ever

roman



Hello Roman,

Thank you, we need to support one another.

Yours,
Tony

Lifebringer
27th August 2012, 13:36
Religious manipulation, given power by those who manipulate and hide the truth.

Like having Wall St police themselves. Doing the same thing over and over with NO forward maturity of the soul. Jesus said love, they killed him for it. They liked the separation and labeling then, to make themselves feel bigger, or better than the gentiles. The gentiles had more open minded compassion for Christ's teachings, and therefore his reasoning for leaving home and traveling the world to spread the teachings of love and His Father's Kingdom in Heaven. This planet will be made way for his return, by His Will. A force of nature/Mother Earth by His will, the creator and knower of all things.

Man"kinda" doesn't stand a chance of killing what God gave us all on the planet and the people are waking up to the truths, and planning for peace among the communities and cities and nations around the world. There is not reward in killing people, only a living repeating memory of death, that sometimes destroys mind, heart and soul.

nomadguy
28th August 2012, 05:37
And also Jesus(yeshua) is said to have commented "ye are all gods". (from the Old Testament)
And then people wrote in books that he was "the son of god".
Leaving out everyone else, and that pretty much destroys his message.

GarethBKK
28th August 2012, 06:52
Note how a meaning can be changed. This is Neuro-Linguistic Programming.

Tony, Could you explain more how NLP is at play here? Thanks.

Tony
28th August 2012, 09:04
Note how a meaning can be changed. This is Neuro-Linguistic Programming.

Tony, Could you explain more how NLP is at play here? Thanks.

As far as I can see or understand, NLP is used like hypnosis, it can change relative reality. It a subtle change in wording to imply another meaning, and with repetition the new meaning replaces the original meaning. In Orwell's "Animal Farm" the pigs chant, "Four legs good, two legs bad!" then change the chant to,"Four legs good, two legs better!"

It's twisting reality. In Orwell's 1984, he talks about double speak, or newspeak, where something is said, that has two contradictor meanings.
For me, "Oneness" is like that. We are led to believe that we are all One. This has never happened and never will...it's impossible to achieve!
This is how people are divided, trying different ways achieve this oneness, which nobody has ever agreed on!

But, when resting in our pure nature, because it is pure, empty of anything, we are at zero.
When we create a mental image of ourselves, we create a One. Because of this One (me) we create other (you)...a then lot of likes and dislikes!
So there is a oneness, but it is an uncontaminated being. Which is the nature of all sentient beings...but we are not the same. We are all unique.


Apart from NLP there is neuro-symbolic programming. A child before it can recognise a "McDonald's" sign, before they can recognise their own name.
To understand some of this reading or listen to Aldous Huxley, his "Brave New World" is all about drugs and media propaganda.

Interestingly Orwell and Huxley both came from the Fabian Society.




All the best,
Tony

Tony
28th August 2012, 09:18
This is from David icke's site.

Warning to Activists: Agent Provocateurs Want to Make You a Terrorist





By J.G Vibes
theintelhub.com
May 24, 2012
For hundreds of years the establishment has used agent provocateurs as a means of discrediting protest movements that spoke out against the injustice that was being perpetrated by the ruling class.
Provocateurs are basically undercover agents, who infiltrate activist groups and try to provoke or push various members of these groups into doing something illegal that they can then immediately be arrested for.

Even if the activists aren’t arrested, the incident can then be used as a propaganda piece against dissenters everywhere.  This is how things have played out throughout the course of American history, and im sure it goes back much further than that.

In the past you could expect one of these snakes to be at protests trying to get people to throw bricks through windows, or even just doing it themselves when all else failed.  This usually supplied the pretext for violent crackdowns on protestors, and a justification for the use of excessive force.

However, in recent years with the general population becoming more discontent, these provocateurs are taking more extreme measures and hatching plots that could get innocent protestors sent away for life, or worse.

I’m talking of course about the fabricated “terror” plots that the establishment has been walking people into since at least the signing of the patriot act.  First these plots were surrounding Muslims on airplanes with fake bombs.  This trend continued for years and resulted in the prosecution of several people.

These “underwear bomber” cases, as they later came to be known, served as the excuse for the expansion of the TSA and the rollout of the radioactive naked body scanners that have become so controversial.
Since occupy wall street became a household name, the government is now turning their attention away from the phoney Muslim threat and towards the dissenters at home who have now been branded “domestic terrorists”.

This past weekend in Chicago, a group of young occupy protesters were infiltrated by a federal agent, who supplied them with all sorts of contraband and then immediately had them arrested.  This set up was nearly identical to one that took place just weeks ago, prior to the mayday protests in Ohio.

The police are putting forward a narrative about violent terrorist masterminds, when in reality it was the undercover agents themselves who put the plot into motion and provided all of the materials.
These incidents should serve as a warning to activists everywhere to keep their guard up and to avoid people who start talking about this kind of sketchy activity.  Many of you reading this probably think that this should go without saying, but it’s become apparent that it is not very difficult for police to ensnare people in these false flag set ups.

This should be an issue that is discussed regularly at activist meetings and occupy general assembly’s worldwide.
While this may seem like a topic that should be unspoken and common sense, it is still one of the most damaging tactics that has been used against dissenters thus far, both in terms of public relations and the toll taken on the lives of those who get caught up in these traps.

As we have seen many times in the past, hurting people, blowing things up and destroying property accomplishes nothing for the cause of freedom.  This kind of behavior actually provides the mainstream media with propaganda opportunities that will be used to perpetuate the myth that anyone who disagrees with authority is dangerous and violent.

As long as this myth endures the public will continue to fund and allow their own enslavement, as well as yours and mine.
From now on we should all be especially careful about the kinds of things that new friends are bringing into our houses.  If someone approaches you acting shady, or offers to give you anything illegal especially related to weapons or explosive material, you need to get yourself out of that situation as smoothly as possible and don’t accept anything that person is going to offer you.

Try to disagree with them as politely as possible if they mention anything about violence, anything that is said to an undercover cop will definitely come back up in court and be used to demonize the accused.
With two cases like this popping up in two different cities so close to each other, it is quite possible that there are undercover units in activist movements in every city, especially the occupy movement due to all of the press that it got last season.

Be careful out there, and make sure your friends and local community members are aware that there has been widespread infiltration of protest movements and that they should be highly suspicious of people who start talking openly about violent or destructive behavior.