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aranuk
27th August 2012, 20:55
I have watched about a dozen videos some 5hrs but mostly ones about 1 and a half hours long. I think he died about 2003 but the question I am asking you all is : Was he telling the truth about all he reported about the Philadelphia experiment, Montauk, boys, time travel etc?

Stan

Bill Ryan
27th August 2012, 21:14
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From our first transcribed interview with Henry Deacon:

http://projectcamelot.org/livermore_physicist.html






BR: Do you know about the Montauk Project?

HD: That caused a huge problem, and generated a... created a 40-year loop.

I don’t know about Al Bielek. I believe some of his information is suspect. But something like that definitely did happen, the Philadelphia Experiment, too. John Neumann was very involved in all of that.

BR: And Tesla, and Einstein?

HD: Don’t know. But Neumann... [nods head]

BR: Montauk was real?

HD: Yes. That was a real mess. They created a time split we’re still unable to mend. Now, understand this also relates to Project Rainbow, the Stargates… they were also working on that there. But some of the Montauk reports on the net are unconvincing to me. I’ve seen some of the photos of the equipment they’re supposed to have used, and it’s junk, just a pile of junk.

DeDukshyn
27th August 2012, 21:29
To me the whole story makes sense only when one considers how the time-lines (may have) got all messed up. If you try to interpret the whole Montauk ordeal in a single linear timeline - then it does not make much sense. When I did my study on it I had to conclude that in order for the story to be remotely accurate - there must have been several timelines involved in this project - some I think a fair bit different than the one we know from "history".

The part that intrigued me the most was the "conscious manifestation amplifier" - a machine that could amplify ones ability to create, via pure conscious manifestation. It took the natural abilities that humans have to do this and somehow amplified it and inserted it into the matrix to cause it to be. Scary stuff. Apparently it required alien technology to work - who knows if we actually permanently acquired that tech.

The whole story is quite fascinating and makes a little more sense as a whole story as opposed to its parts, although some of it is really quite incredible - to use the word properly. But .. if you throw in the timeline entanglements .. who knows?

My 2 cents.

ghostrider
27th August 2012, 22:29
I believe the project was real, what actually happened is still open for debate. My theory is, if nothing happened, why mind wipe those involved ? They can recall too much detail for something that was supposedly a non event.

aranuk
28th August 2012, 00:20
What about the Montauk boys programme, he said they took as many as 20 million boys from most major cities in America using this interconnected tunnel system. As it all sounds far fetched to me, I can't help thinking that Al Bielek was telling the truth. If he was getting a cut of the book royalties that Preston Nicholls wrote that would make sense to me, but he is not co author was he?
So Bill do you think he was telling the truth? I know you trust Henry Deacon, you have said so a few times. My BS radar didn't go off at any time watching and hearing what he had said.

Stan

mojo
28th August 2012, 00:33
Also I think Al had a close raport with Phil Schneider? I wonder if he discussed Phils work after his death in any videos? Thanks for the thread...

Operator
28th August 2012, 00:44
HD: Don’t know. But Neumann... [nods head]


Interesting name ... any relation to Arthur self ?

HaveBlue
28th August 2012, 02:00
Death of Al Bielek announced on Coast to Coast AM broadcast by George Noory on 13 October 2011; ^ Al Bielek (March 31, 1927 – October 10, 2011) dies in ...

...is what I just copied from a google webpage. I remember when this was announced by G.Noory. Nearly a whole year already is what bugs me right now! -it seems only weeks ago!

His best interview IMO was with Art Bell. Al B always speaks so matter of factly and Art was able to keep up with the technical jargon and explanations given by Al B.(at least to begin with!)

Of course that proves nothing about time travel etc... only that Al B knows his stuff when it comes to radio and electronics. Once you have followed all of the Montauk stuff and then Miles Johnstons BASES series it does all seem to get very interesting indeed.

The technical side of it is all way above my head but I can and do accept that all matter and existence is vibration or frequency. Then enter Bruce Cathies work on Harmonics. David Sereda has been doing some interesting stuff on that lately too.
So has sean david morton shown an interest in this I understand but I have not looked into his side of things.

Add some sacred geometry (freemasons anyone) the beginning of the bible that says .in the beginning was the word. Personally I like George Greens correction of swapping 'word' for 'sound'.

That brings us to levitating huge stones to make the pirymids, coral castle etc...

I feel these are all pieces of the jigsaw. Peronally I believe our 3D planet earth reality is just one radio station on the dial of existance of many or even an infinite amount of existances.

Before I waffle on forever I will finish by saying that I for one find it just too convenient to dismiss Al Bielek and Co... as nutjobs. Same goes for Bob Lazar. Dan Burisch and others of scientific background(whether they have the bits of paper to show the world matters little to me, they talk like scientists and I know how they talk.
None of these people ever sound like they are just making things up as they go.

Out of interest, Bill I know you have spent many hours with Henry Deacon and trust him fully, but has he ever gotten technical with his explanations with you the way the above mentioned have with us all? I don't recall HD getting technical with us public you see. And can you elaborate on Jake Simpson and a bit about why he went funny on camelot, we know about the others.

Thanks much. Stephen

Harley
28th August 2012, 03:07
HD: Don’t know. But Neumann... [nods head]


Interesting name ... any relation to Arthur self ?

I believe he (HD) addressed this question once, but I can't recall where.

His answer was no.

Bill Ryan
28th August 2012, 03:26
What about the Montauk boys programme, he said they took as many as 20 million boys from most major cities in America using this interconnected tunnel system. As it all sounds far fetched to me, I can't help thinking that Al Bielek was telling the truth. If he was getting a cut of the book royalties that Preston Nicholls wrote that would make sense to me, but he is not co author was he?
So Bill do you think he was telling the truth? I know you trust Henry Deacon, you have said so a few times. My BS radar didn't go off at any time watching and hearing what he had said.

20 million sounds like many magnitudes way too many. 2,000 would have been plenty enough to be horrific.

As I recall, David Wilcock told us from his own Montauk contact 'Daniel' (see his original Camelot interview here (http://projectcamelot.org/lang/en/david_wilcock_interview_transcript_2_en.html)), that the children-abductee scenario was real.

http://projectcamelot.org/lang/en/david_wilcock_interview_transcript_2_en.html




HD: Don’t know. But Neumann... [nods head]


Interesting name ... any relation to Arthur self ?

No relation. (I did ask him!)

truth4me
28th August 2012, 04:35
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From our first transcribed interview with Henry Deacon:

http://projectcamelot.org/livermore_physicist.html






BR: Do you know about the Montauk Project?

HD: That caused a huge problem, and generated a... created a 40-year loop.

I don’t know about Al Bielek. I believe some of his information is suspect. But something like that definitely did happen, the Philadelphia Experiment, too. John Neumann was very involved in all of that.

BR: And Tesla, and Einstein?

HD: Don’t know. But Neumann... [nods head]

BR: Montauk was real?

HD: Yes. That was a real mess. They created a time split we’re still unable to mend. Now, understand this also relates to Project Rainbow, the Stargates… they were also working on that there. But some of the Montauk reports on the net are unconvincing to me. I’ve seen some of the photos of the equipment they’re supposed to have used, and it’s junk, just a pile of junk. Hey Bill, the 40 year time loop what does it mean?

Sirius White
28th August 2012, 07:27
I know the A.Deane material doesn't have lots of support here. I only glean it to gain certain kinds of information (there IS truth in it believe it or not). And great details were given about the two experiments, and how certain beings tricked the government into helping them with the project, for their own means, but the beings themselves had alternate plans. The time loop and distortion basically created a means for these beings, who some call time travellers from another time line, to come into our world in bigger numbers, via the sustained rip. It was a huge mess. And it still causes issues today IMO. I also feel bad for all the boys and people involved in that project. Ash btw, as well as a few others "out there" were at Montauk btw. This isn't the first or the last project children were rounded up for projects like these.

According to A.Deane, the beings were also trying to convince the government to do another experiment, in the 20 year interval of the august 12 magnetic peak. I searched everywhere to know if the 2003 experiment, which the grey's needed to happen for their agenda happened. I of course, could find no such info. Untl I read an interview once with Dan Burisch on the Grey's and opening a portal with help of government in 2003. Fascinating.

Whats even more interesting, is I do not resonate with the whole of the material. The painting of certain beings in a certain way, the drama of earth and all that, as well as the painting of certain kind of physics (and sacred G) as "fallen."BUT, if ANYONE goes into depth about the timeline problem, about the rips, about the alternate earths and all the different multi-dimensional DRAMA, its definitely A Deane in Voyagers 2. Not all the information may be perfectly intact (which is, why you must research everything else and cross reference), but when I did begin to understand this multi dimensional, inter-time cosmic drama, it opened up multi-dimensional thinking inside of me. So....take what you will. She discusses the issues with even future timelines, of humans like ourselves.

And get this: she mentions future humans, illuminati type people- who are trying to get us to dump more radioactive waste, as well as conduct nuclear stuff in order for them to influence us better, and through these rips they also get rid of waste. She mentions that various Grey's, from a future alternate timeline, also came back in time not to save us- but rather to ensure that we do not ascend because US being multi-dimensional, affects THEIR own human (tech integrated, as warned by Marcinack, and those against transhumanism) populace which at the time- is largely controlled. This is a DIFFERENT earth, than the future ones (tarans, wingmakers) who are trying to help us.

Edit: Just read some of Deacons interview. Very true. And also, he mentions beings getting in through RIPS....YUP......nice :)

Intuition is a KILLER thing folks, I Know we all want facts. Search for those, but DO NOT Ignore it. The last part of Deacons interview where he says yes we were on Moon but some footage was doctored/fake is something I've had an intuition about for YEARS. So glad to see it confirmed

GrnEggsNHam
20th November 2012, 23:15
I recently watched a video about the Montauk Project which I had heard a little bit about here and there. However I had never heard of the "Montauk Boys" before. I do not possess any aryan qualities that I know of(I am brown haired and brown eyed or I think they are) but, I would not be surprised if I come to find out I was involved in this project or something similar. I was born in 1985 and apparently the Montauk project was still going on pretty heavy until the 90's. This may sound self important or strange to say the least. However I do not take this lightly and dots are connecting in this brain of mine. I have hardly any memories prior to 1991-92(6-7). Perhaps this is normal or at least this is what I had always thought.
But, recently I have been recalling events and my parents and brother are like "oh really? I don't remember that". Maybe it's just coincidence that all 3 of them don't have these memories of us together, as I do. But, I am starting to think these were planted to make me "normal" in societal terms. This has happened on at least 8 separate occasions.
I often thought of myself as a human computer and rather enjoyed my mental capabilities as compared to my peers. I am no genius by my standards at least but, I've always had a knack for efficiency.
As a young boy maybe 9-10 I would often have intense nightmares of torture. To the point of screaming in my sleep. I toppled off the top bunk numerous times. Anyone who has slept on a bunk bed knows this does not happen easily, as there is a bar guarding the edge. As a result my brother(slept on the bottom bunk) is a deep sleeper and its almost impossible to wake him by sound(even today).
Other dreams would be extremely vivid and of me as a man often as a soldier someplace. The one I remember even to this day was in a jungle and recurred numerous times. It was memorable because who I assume was a very close friend always died at the end.
Around this age is when I experienced the "going fast" phenomena, often after waking up in the morning.
There are quite a few other things worth mentioning but as they are sexual in nature and are inappropriate to discuss here. I will stop.

Because my point in divulging all this isn't for any other purpose than to help myself find understanding. I come here asking anyone if they can suggest anyway to unlock the secrets I fear are within me. I've read The Mars Records and ever since have been perplexed and intrigued with this method. Has anyone dealt with clearing and kinesiology on this level?

Is there any other avenues you can recommend I research?

If I am totally honest I've been sitting here for 10 minutes debating whether I should post this. This is scary stuff and for a long time I've let the past be the past. However reading and hearing interviews about Montauk and the boys has alarms glaring in my head. I'm ready to try and understand.
On a side note my grandfather was in the Navy and stationed in numerous places, one in which he resided at the longest was Norfolk. I've been meaning to ask him about his military career for some time. Perhaps this is where I will begin.

Aspen
2nd November 2014, 18:56
Peter Moon and Stewart Swerdlow talk about many of the same people and events . . . . Preston Nichols, Camerons and alchemy. Stewart also claims to be a hybrid and greatly regrets being one of the controllers over the children at Montauk. I am sometimes a gullible person, but after extensive research some people resonate more than others and Al Bielek and Stewart Swerdlow certainly do seem like the are telling the truth best as they know it. However, I wonder if some of their memories have been manipulated or implanted since they were involved from very early in their life. Maybe some of these events happened on alternative timelines.

Lilyofthestars
14th January 2022, 20:34
I'm doing some serious deep diving into old threads here. I wanted to see what the community felt about Al Bielek.. Amazing comments, especially @ SiriusWhite. My intuition tends to tell me the guy (Bielek) is telling the truth.

Inversion
15th January 2022, 01:09
Sean David Morton claims to have financially supported Al Bielek towards the end of his life. He mentioned that in a YT video with Kerry Cassidy. Post #117 (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?88821-Sean-David-Morton/page6&highlight=sean+david+morton)

bielek.com (http://www.bielek.com/)
This is an interesting video about Al being in the future.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cdz4nZJchmI&feature=emb_logo

Lilyofthestars
15th January 2022, 17:47
Yes, years ago I listened to his entire testimony which was about two hours long. I'm a bit of a repeat record regarding my having "Seen things" before hearing or reading about it - but this was just another case of listening to information I had had a lifetime of visions about. I feel that he is telling the truth as many details line up with things that were shown to me years ago in my visionary states. There was a time where in a single year I had probably been given over 100 visions about the future. There was no media consumption that had seeded this. I was exhausted constantly from all the out of body travels, and it happened involuntarily at a time I didn't believe in any of this. I wasn't looking for it to happen, the visionary capacity and out of body travels to the future just came on like a flood or a faucet.

I cannot see any reason why Al Bielek would be making these details up for fun, attention, or money. I don't think he got any perks out of it at the time. I'm surprised people like this aren't discussed more often on Avalon. Its easy to see short videos that break down his claims into a ten minute session or so, but I'd say its worth it for people to watch his ENTIRE testimony if they can find time for it. Those videos have been getting harder and harder to find as most of them were removed from Youtube as "lies" and disinformation.

ozmirage
16th January 2022, 04:50
Was he telling the truth ?

I knew Al when he lived in Atlanta, as a tenant of a good friend, Peter. Al was a psychopathic liar and con artist. He loved to "steal" other people's material and claim it for himself. The irony is that he stole from his landlord, Peter and used his story as his own. Specifically, the claim to have lived in the 28th century, but traveled to or reincarnated in the 20th century. Peter showed me his many notebooks filled with drawings and memories of the 28th century. After Peter passed, Al apparently stole the notebooks.

I would run into him at the biweekly meetings at Sam Mathews (now deceased), in Smyrna, GA.
I generally ignored his claims after he said the NASA discovered that the moon had shifted its orbit. I called him out on that point, with the simple fact the predicted eclipses were still happening, on schedule - an impossibility if the moon had shifted in its orbit.

But he certainly acted like his lunacy was reality. Perhaps that is why so many believed him.

Does that answer your query?


Ref:
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3efch1