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Paranormal
29th August 2012, 07:44
From: http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/49107
“Staged crisis leading to suspended elections could happen on our watch.” What a difference four years can make.
For the purpose of full disclosure, I must note that what follows is a compilation of the information I obtained from my source from two separate contacts within a 72 hour period. Both contacts have been assembled into a single “conversation” for easier reading. None of the information has been changed or otherwise edited.
New information from DHS source
According to my well-placed source within the DHS apparatus, what amounts to a final authorization was reportedly given to DHS directly from the White House. A “go signal” if you will.
“It’s going hot. The plan, or whatever specific operation that was devised, is going hot, being put into motion. You’ve got to let people know that something is up, approval has been given, and unless somebody stops it, we’re going to have a staged event inside the U.S., and it’s being set up so that it gets real ugly real fast.” Obviously, I asked for clarification and more details.
“Look, I’ll tell you everything I know, what I’ve heard and seen, and some of what I’ve been told, but you’ve got to get this public. Even then, I’m not sure we know enough about the specific operational details, have enough time, or have the ability to overcome the characterizations of lunacy they’re going to throw at you, at us, for even talking about this. I’ve heard you talk about the ‘normalcy bias’ of most Americans, and that’s part of what we’re fighting. Look at what they did to you and the content of last information I gave to you. It was like that pass a secret game in first grade, you know, where one student whispers something in the ear of the kid next to him and it’s passed around the room until it gets to the last student. By that time, it’s nothing like the original ‘secret.’ It’s the lesson kids learn about spreading gossip. There was some state representative from Tennessee that sent out a mass e-mail of a screwed up version of what you wrote and then later retracted it,” he stated.
I reminded him that it was Tennessee State Representative Kelly Keisling who sent an e-mail to his constituents based on what amounted to third-hand information he read on the Internet. It centered around an alleged fake assassination attempt, something I never wrote, I told him. “Yes, that’s it. Didn’t you find the timing of that odd? I mean, the information I gave you was back in late April. When did Keisling send that e-mail and then make his very public retraction? Two or three weeks ago? Give me a break. They wanted to discredit you and anyone who makes public their intentions as bad as they want to know where the leaks are coming from,” he stated. “Believe me when I tell you they are desperate on a number of levels.”
There's also a radio show about this you can listen to here: http://www.blogtalkradio.com/cfp-radio/2012/08/29/the-hagmann-hagmann-report (This show is over 3 hours long and is heavily Religious, but Douglas Hagman is very interesting).
bennycog
29th August 2012, 08:09
some more of the article..
I asked my source for details. “What exactly is the plan? Can you give me specific details? How do you know about this plan ‘going hot?’”
“Okay, from what I’ve been able to learn, there have been a couple different plans or scenarios developed, ready to be implemented at a moment’s notice, but each are distinctly different in nature and timing.” stated my source. “This is done for a few reasons. Look how the weather changed the plans for [Vice-President Joe] Biden’s visit to Tampa. That’s just one example. They’ve got contingencies. They are watching the poll numbers. They are closely monitoring public sentiment. But the objective of the plan is that they want to portray Obama as a victim of racist hatred by the white gun owners, the people concerned about the Constitution, the people they consider fringe. They want to silence their critics, prove that talk show hosts are causing hatred, and that all gun owners are behind the recent shootings. That’s at the heart of the plan. But to understand just how insidious this is, you’ve got to understand the people who are behind it.”
Nero in the White House, Caligula at the DHS
My source continued, “I’ve been trying to get as much information as possible, but it’s not been easy. This is definitely a plan that has its origins at the highest levels of the White House, and seems limited to maybe a handful of the people closest to Obama. The only reason I know about this authorization order, or approval, or whatever you want to call it, is that there was a major slip up at the very upper level of DHS, and I mean the very upper level” he stated.
“Remember the news about sexual harassment, intimidation and all of the garbage that’s gone on between the people Napolitano brought in and promoted due to their ‘lifestyle’ preferences? These are some sick people, mental rapists and perverts, who she’s brought in to her innermost circle. They make Caligula look like a boy scout, at least with power and sex. Well, one of those people, close to Napolitano, was involved in a meeting where the concept and approval of a false flag was being discussed.”
“This is where they almost lost it. You’ve got to understand that this whole thing is very compartmentalized and we’re talking about a very small group of people in this meeting. This person knew some of the information, not all of it, and let some information slip to a counterpart. That counterpart, who found herself involved in a situation way over her head, talked. I won’t go any further, but that’s how I ended up learning the latest information,” said my source. “Now you should have an idea of how this slipped out. But they had a quick handle on damage control, given the circumstances behind the disclosure. Potentially embarrassing circumstances, sexual blackmail” he added.
I asked my source whether DHS is involved in the actual planning or staging of the event. In response, this source stated that Janet Napolitano and her closest aides are playing a supporting role. ” She has to be involved because she has to control the response to a staged event. She’s involved to coordinate and implement the clampdown, after the fact. She does what she’s told. From everything I’ve heard, I believe the plans come from Valerie Jarrett and possibly a close friend and Obama associate who has a very big stake in Obama’s re-election.”
“What happens and when it happens depends on the events of the next sixty days. If it appears that Obama does not have a lock on the next four years to finish what he started, what he has been told to do, then watch for it ‘going hot.’”
any news from your end BILL
EYES WIDE OPEN
29th August 2012, 12:38
There is a youtube interview about this on prison planet.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/dhs-source-its-going-hot-obama-false-flag-coming.html
Not sure how reliable the guy is however.
GoodETxSG
29th August 2012, 13:35
TY, taking a listen now. This is the LAST thing we need while trying to overcome all of this corruption from our "Rulers".
ljwheat
29th August 2012, 13:40
Here we see history repeating its self, the game book used in 1968, is IMO what may be what is being considered today as a possible plan of action to watch for, changing the rules of engagement to fit today problem of re-election the only things that have changed are the names and peaces on the game board, regardless they will use what has worked before, so it is possible to narrow this down a bit further. This is just one.
The United States presidential election of 1968 was the 46th quadrennial United States presidential election. Coming four years after Democrat Lyndon B. Johnson won in a historic landslide, it saw Johnson forced out of the race and Republican Richard Nixon elected. The election was a wrenching national experience, conducted against a backdrop that included the assassination of civil rights leader Martin Luther King, Jr. and subsequent race riots across the nation, the assassination of presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy, widespread demonstrations against the Vietnam War across American university and college campuses, and violent confrontations between police and anti-war protesters at the 1968 Democratic National Convention as the Democratic party split again and again.
On November 5, 1968, the Republican nominee, former Vice President Richard Nixon won the election over the Democratic nominee, Vice President Hubert Humphrey. Nixon ran on a campaign that promised to restore law and order to the nation's cities, torn by riots and crime. The election of 1968 was a realigning election that permanently disrupted the New Deal Coalition that had dominated presidential politics for 36 years.
The election featured a strong third party effort by former Alabama Governor George Wallace. Because Wallace's campaign opposed federal intervention in the South to end school segregation, he proved to be a formidable candidate in the South; no third-party candidate has won an entire state's electoral votes since.
This is the last U.S. presidential election in which New York had the most electoral votes and California did not have the most electoral votes. It was the second and last time (after Woodrow Wilson's narrow re-election in 1916) that a presidential nominee managed to win the election but failed to carry the state of his residence. Although Nixon had most notably served as representative and senator for California, he was living in New York at the time being, a state which favoured Vice President Humphrey.
Bill Ryan
29th August 2012, 13:49
any news from your end BILL
No news. But I feel it's credible. I and many others have for several months had attention on the possibility of a false flag event in the US before the elections.
This all aligns with the report from Doug Hagmann back in May, which grabbed my full attention at the time. That was a genuine leak from a source deep within the DHS.
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?49145-Joe-Angione-The-Rumor-That-Must-Never-Become-Reality
Doug Hagmann, reporting in the May 8, 2012 edition of the Canada Free Press wrote that his informant works in “the upper-echelon of DHS”, which he described as “effectively under the control of Barack Hussein Obama.”
Hagmann’s contact said: “The DHS is actively preparing for massive social unrest inside the United States. He then corrected himself, stating that ‘a civil war’ is the more appropriate term. Certain elements of the government are not only expecting and preparing for it, they are actually facilitating it.”
(read more here (http://stargazer12.wordpress.com/tag/joe-angione/))
The Alex Jones interview about this (dated today) is here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=WMB2Tl0izdI
Edit to add:
I posted the above, and then started listening to the Alex Jones interview. The source is the same one as referenced above. It's not two independent reports. Right now, I'm regarding my intuitive connection of the two reports as potentially significant.
ljwheat
29th August 2012, 14:13
This almost looks like they knew in advance this was going to happen with ISAAC. Using HARP to keep ISAAC from building over the gulf steering it to its parking place then ramp it up, if there using Harp at this particular time on ISAAC, they may be using this to influence the elections some how. Just a feeling its connected.
Another possible game would be Obama running in to save the day, racial unrest between Katrina, and Isaac the sleeping Drama with national news coverage real time is unfolding this very minute -- the match to light the fire in the deep south. May be connected.
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?49091-Hurricane-ISAAC&p=545918&viewfull=1#post545918
GlassSteagallfan
29th August 2012, 14:43
I wonder how many of us here DIDN'T see this coming.
NewFounderHome
29th August 2012, 15:15
I wonder how many of us here DIDN'T see this coming.
I totally agree with you on this!
Neal
29th August 2012, 15:37
Thanks for the links and the Alex Jones interview. This is very interesting information for sure and certainly fits with all the preparation that has been ongoing for the past year+.
Might I ask that this is related to the Timewave Zero date of 08/30/2012 being the lowest point (largest novelty) until mid-December? Are we going to see this happen tomorrow or be diffused tomorrow? (Not trying to instill doom & gloom!)
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Rocky_Shorz
29th August 2012, 15:58
who would gain by keeping America crippled with rock headed politicians in the house not able to get anything done?
the election will toss most of them out this round to bring back balance...
GOP is trying to push the tea party away...
since they are in charge of false flag events, I give very little odds on a disruption...
PurpleLama
29th August 2012, 17:54
A few comments to interject,
Isaac was supposed to be another Katrina, there are some very disappointed people out there, that it's not.
And, it's Israel, not the Gop, who's in charge of ye olde false flags.
Paranormal
29th August 2012, 22:40
Below is a follow-up interview with Douglas Hagman on today's Alex Jones show.
Upon having listened to all the radio-shows here, I'm in 2 minds: on one hand, both candidates are puppets so they might as well let the election happen with nothing to scare the people out of the 2 party paradigm. But on the other hand, there's so many preparations (e.g. militarisation of Police, laws like NDAA, buying of ammo, staffing FEMA camps...) that it's clear something is planned - most likely some economic collapse and bank holiday where people can't buy or sell.
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Mulder
30th August 2012, 00:47
I personally doubt there will be a "gun-grab" or declared "martial-law" before the US election as there's more work to be done first e.g. bringing in cashless society so people who won't accept it can't buy and sell. Also Steve Quayle has been shown to make false allegations. E.g. in the 2009 interview he said Global Warming is real at 5.35 min, his evidence was volcanic activity - this is NOt evidence of global warming. In part one of the below interview, he said there were imminent large earthquakes planned in the USA and they haven't happened.
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ghostrider
30th August 2012, 01:56
It's my theory , there won't be an election, some type of event will happen and it will seem to require attention more that changing puppets.
Rocky_Shorz
30th August 2012, 04:32
A few comments to interject,
Isaac was supposed to be another Katrina, there are some very disappointed people out there, that it's not.
And, it's Israel, not the Gop, who's in charge of ye olde false flags.
I'm just having fun with all who drank the Fox News Koolaid that still think the president has any control over those in charge...
while all of you are still sipping your drink, I'm going deep to learn who is running these plans, the heads of Israel are no different than Obama, zero control over what is going on...
just like Charles said, the controllers have lost control, Wall Street and London are running this world, no one in government has any say... not even the queen...
Mulder
30th August 2012, 05:45
Here is another follow-up interview. Gosh, Alex is really milking this subject.
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Rocky_Shorz
30th August 2012, 06:24
remember when Glenn Beck lost it?
right after listening in on phone taps in London...
did he hear the plans and was held back from sharing it with his listeners?
Doctor
30th August 2012, 07:23
Am I the only one not giving into these scare tactics?? How many of these have we had already this year??? I just see a whole lot of fear mongering.
Rocky_Shorz
30th August 2012, 07:46
remember the economic collapse was a reason for Bush and Cheney to stay in power back in 2008 to skip the election... shut down, martial law, colored tape on the mailbox...
I bet Cheney is still pissed he didn't pull the trigger on that plan...
oh wait, he had a change of Heart...
It's all real dude, they just haven't gotten around to it yet... ;)
bennycog
30th August 2012, 14:14
remember the economic collapse was a reason for Bush and Cheney to stay in power back in 2008 to skip the election... shut down, martial law, colored tape on the mailbox...
I bet Cheney is still pissed he didn't pull the trigger on that plan...
oh wait, he had a change of Heart...
It's all real dude, they just haven't gotten around to it yet... ;)
If they have the design of who they want to be president. would they not care who they use as a puppet unless that puppet has gained more momentum than they first thought...
i suppose a puppet needs replacing in a short amount of time once they have been fully abused and used..
i do not see any scare tactics here. i just see excuses to help the masses feel less excited about the promises these politicians make, to seal their place in a seat that destroys the positive in humanity.
to make it ok to lie to the poor and the poorer.
to make it ok to demonise freedom
the truth will always hurt someone. so how can we get the truth, withought the whistleblower to be convicted in some way?
SilentFeathers
30th August 2012, 14:20
Well, if anything is going to happen they only have just a bit over two months to do it.....just another deadline and waiting game in my opinion of speculations and on the edge of your seat popcorn eating suspense.....this year has been nothing but all talk, very little action.
I'm not saying nothing is going to happen, but only two months left to the elections, if they're gonna bust a move, time is getting down to the nitty gritty.
My instincts do tell me though that if they do bust a move it's going to be a pretty drastic one........
PS: every thing seems to be going there way, perhaps busting a move is not necessary......but they are psychopaths, perhaps they'll do it just because they can.
Bill Ryan
30th August 2012, 15:26
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Bumping this thread!
I've extracted the core two minute heads-up from the hour-long interview with Steve Quayle. Here it is:
http://projectavalon.net/Steve_Quayle_Alex_Jones_29_August_2012_Obama_Preparing_for_Total_Takeover_extract.mp3
I've alerted good friends in the US to take care they don't get their assets trapped in a digital system that may suddenly crash.
To support what Quayle's sources said about "an exchange in the Middle East" -- timing not yet fixed -- CNN posted this report about Israel's plans to attack Iran:
http://edition.cnn.com/video/?iid=article_sidebar#/video/bestoftv/2012/08/27/pleitgen-israel-iran-strike.cnn
My Spidey Sense tells me that this may be very real. It all fits.
It also fits with Lindsey Williams' indirect report from the Raytheon employee with the Top Secret clearance that Raytheon had been warned that "The US government would soon be shutting down financially" (my paraphrase). That felt plausible and real as well.
Read about that on this separate thread:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?49099-Lindsay-Williams-Update-the-US-Govt-will-shut-down-soon-
donk
30th August 2012, 15:29
OH NO!!! Suspended election?? That hasn't happened since...well, since '00, right?
Amazingly, the country didn't sink into a hole in the earth. In fact, it didn't even motivate the "represented, free" Americans to fix the broke voting thing.
In fact, we still called ourselves a "free democracy", despite the Pres being picked by 7 (or 9, or however many they had them days) Supreme Court justices...who obviously were a perfect cross section representative of the desires of our people.
But I guess that's par for the course, considering...aren't are votes just "recomendations" to the Electoral College, who decide whether we were smart enough to pick the right Pres? Wasn't one of the elections waaaay back decided by them, even? I have put politics, and especially US political history, far from my conscious mind lately, as when I was immersed in it, the cognitive dissonance required to accept any of it made feel like a MORAN...
Maia Gabrial
30th August 2012, 15:34
And we'd be stuck with Obama longer.... Yippeeee! :tsk:
donk
30th August 2012, 15:36
Doesn't "US gov't shut down" just mean the "veil will be lifted"?
Who is the US gov't??
The people they trot out in front of the teevee aren't really making any decisions, are they? My understanding is that they are reality show stars, representing the real "US INTERESTS"...which are??
So apperently they are the only "force" PREVENTING the complete "boots-in-the-street" totalitarian Machiavelian wet dream (I believe everything but the boots in the street has been true since at least aught-one) from being completely obvious to even the most asleep sheep?
ljwheat
30th August 2012, 16:09
I have always posed a question to people who allow this to over think federal power.
What if a hole open up and the belt way is for ever gone = what will you do in the morning when you wake up. Follow CNN, NBC, froze in the head lights of the Drama to unfold, or have a cup of Joe, pat the kids on the head, kiss the wife on the way out the door headed out to work. In other words continue to do the right thing and live your life.
I think if I have to go take a pee, nothing on this planet has a say in what I do next. Do the right thing in your power and that takes there power away quite nicly me thinks. If they freeze you in there agenda (head lights) then it will collapse.
I will not shut down because they do. I will function with out them just fine.
John xoxo
Carmody
30th August 2012, 16:32
The atmosphere in a room, or the mental direction of the entire space and group gathered..can be changed by a few erudite comments uttered at the right time.
The basics for that to happen are certain data sets that back the comment or 'introspective moment spoken aloud in a crowd', those data sets must be in evidence. In evidence, meaning that the group overall, must have been introduced to those things an an idea, or potential.
It is my personal experience, via testing the waters on these aspects, that the overall western crowd, in the idea of the mainstream, or 'johnny in the street', seems to be getting the point. the correct point.
Thus if any move is tried now, in these times and in this atmosphere, the result is not a slam dunk on the world of 'let's attack Muslims' or similar thinking but one of ' the problem comes from bankers, elitists, secret groups running the government and also involves the CIA (and others)'. that sort of comment now carries weight..due to there being a backdrop that people can get a grip on..and such an utterance can now move people's ideas on what to turn to and what to do.
And THAT, is a huge change, even from a few years back.
As for age, the flip-flop seems to be at ages 30-40.
Above age 40 or so, the people have a harder time digesting the truth of it.
Under the age of 30, in my experience of testing these waters...THEY KNOW .....and do not -generally speaking- ever disagree with such comments on the nature of the truth.
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